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A source close to the production of Indiana Jones IV (still, as far as we know, unofficially called Indiana Jones and the City of the Gods, but more on that later) has divulged some information to us about the film’s shooting locations, opening set piece and what kind of a character Shia LaBeouf will be playing.

According to ‘Belloq,’ Indy IV is going to be shooting outside of Los Angeles, in New Haven, Connecticut, in New Mexico and in Hawaii. ‘Belloq’ also tells us that the opening action scene of the film will pit Dr. Jones against Russians agents in Area 51 – which is interesting, as this is a major similarity to the Frank Darabont draft that confirms my belief that much of what was in that script has made its way into what will be filmed this summer.

One thing that is different from Darabont’s draft is the addition of Shia LaBeouf’s character; ‘Belloq’ tells us that LaBeouf is going to be playing a greaser, wearing jeans and a leather jacket and riding around on a motorcycle. He also says that Indy and Shia will be thrown together in this adventure but will not learn they’re related until a pivotal action scene.

I’m holding back some details, but from what ‘Belloq’ tells me, and from my own quick reading through the Darabont draft, I would say that the main storyline remains roughly the same – it involves crystal skulls and takes its cues from Chariots of the Gods. Interestingly, there have been rumors of a video game tie in being released next year with the title Indiana Jones and the Staff of Moses; I checked with other sources and while I can’t confirm anything, this seems to be a stand-alone adventure and does not reflect the title or storyline of Indiana Jones IV.

Take all of this with caution: my sources are legit, but none of them have their hands on the latest script, and there is still tinkering going on. However, I do believe that it’s too late in the game to change the main storyline, so I feel pretty confident that we’ll see Indiana Jones in South American temples and involved with aliens.
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The Indiana Jones IV information keeps rolling in (read last night's revelation of Shia LaBeouf's character and the film's plotline here), thanks to ‘Belloq.’ Our idol-theiving source confirms rumblings I’ve heard from other quarters (and frankly, from common sense): Karen Allen will be reprising the role of Marion Ravenwood in Indiana Jones IV, and she’s going to be Shia LaBeouf’s mom. And you’ll recall that Shia is Indy’s son. You do the math.

My sources tell me that this is a done deal, but Paramount offered no comment when contacted. It makes a ton of sense, though, as Karen Allen remains the iconic Indiana Jones love interest, and I’m sure Spielberg and company had no problem in securing her for the duration of the shoot. My sources have not been able to reveal how much time she gets in the movie, though.

There may be more stuff in the days to come, depending on what I can confirm, so keep a watch on this site. And by the way, I don’t have a copy of Frank Darabont’s script: I was allowed to read a printed version, but had to return it when I was done. And to be honest, if I did have it on pdf I wouldn’t send it to you guys, so you can stop emailing me and asking for it.

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is this a trustworthy source?
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is this a trustworthy source?
Chud is pretty realible from what I have seen

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Sounds lame to me. :/
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It seems it is Frank Daranbot's script but with a re-write to add Shia and so on, they kept his story.

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Terrible. Even Connery cant save this.

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He also says that Indy and Shia will be thrown together in this adventure but will not learn they’re related until a pivotal action scene.

 :duh :duh :duh
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2007, 10:49:23 AM »
temple of doom 2 confirmed :'(
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2007, 10:51:21 AM »
Seriously. Why not just get Short Round back?

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2007, 11:08:59 AM »
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He also says that Indy and Shia will be thrown together in this adventure but will not learn they’re related until a pivotal action scene.

 :duh :duh :duh

*Dodges bullet*

"Hey Indy, i've been meaning to ask you"

*Indy dodges punch and returns one of his own*

"Yeah, kid?"

*Indy Jr grabs a sword off the wall and sword fights a nazi who forgot his gun*

"Did you...you know" *dodges swipe* "FUCK MY MOM?"

*Indy drops what he's doing and runs to Indy Jr. The two embrace.*

"OH DADDY!"

"OH SON!"

*nazis throw up in unison*
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2007, 11:12:40 AM »
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He also says that Indy and Shia will be thrown together in this adventure but will not learn they’re related until a pivotal action scene.

 :duh :duh :duh

*Dodges bullet*

"Hey Indy, i've been meaning to ask you"

*Indy dodges punch and returns one of his own*

"Yeah, kid?"

*Indy Jr grabs a sword off the wall and sword fights a nazi who forgot his gun*

"Did you...you know" *dodges swipe* "FUCK MY MOM?"

*Indy drops what he's doing and runs to Indy Jr. The two embrace.*

"OH DADDY!"

"OH SON!"

*nazis throw up in unison*

 :lol :lol
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2007, 11:24:04 AM »
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He also says that Indy and Shia will be thrown together in this adventure but will not learn they’re related until a pivotal action scene.

 :duh :duh :duh

*Dodges bullet*

"Hey Indy, i've been meaning to ask you"

*Indy dodges punch and returns one of his own*

"Yeah, kid?"

*Indy Jr grabs a sword off the wall and sword fights a nazi who forgot his gun*

"Did you...you know" *dodges swipe* "FUCK MY MOM?"

*Indy drops what he's doing and runs to Indy Jr. The two embrace.*

"OH DADDY!"

"OH SON!"

*nazis throw up in unison*

You know, the sad thing is thati's going to happen in a pretty similar fashion.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2007, 11:24:17 AM »
I'm not going to say anything until I see the final film, but it's not like some other director got the script. It's still Spielberg. You can complain about how bad Spielburg killed ET or how bad Lucas killed Star Wars, but still:

Spielberg's last film - Munich (pretty damn good, nominated for Best Picture)
Lucas's last film - Episode III (by far the best of the prequels and better than ROTJ)

That being said, the movie could still suck, but with Spielberg directing, the movie's in good hands, and I'm sure it won't suck too badly.

Again, even with Spielberg, I really can't be too excited about a script that has Indy vs. Aliens.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2007, 11:31:43 AM »
the aliens idea was from george lucas. Back when the film got greenlit finally last year lucas said something like that he came up with a controversial plot idea to take the place of the artifact search in the movie and Spielberg was worried that it was too out there but Lucas said he convinced him of the idea.

But it does sound weird. It's like Indiana Jones meets The X-Files.

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2007, 11:45:16 AM »
indy might have a weird if not bad plot....

but Spielbergs great directing of action scenes, John Williams awesome Indiana Jones scoring, and Harrison's acting of Dr. Jones >>>>>> Live Free or Die Hard

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2007, 11:48:29 AM »
Oh yeah, Indy's going to be TONS better than a Die Soft film.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2007, 11:49:41 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2007, 11:53:23 AM »
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Yes the idea of Indiana "X-Files" Jones is ABSURD if not stupid but spielberg indiana jones action scenes + williams score makes it a million times better than Live Free or Die Hard on it's own.

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2007, 12:02:33 PM »
Indy Aliens is officially number one on my list of really bad ideas that might actually turn out to be good movies.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2007, 12:14:46 PM »

Lucas's last film - Episode III (by far the best of the prequels and better than ROTJ)


no and no
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2007, 12:17:29 PM »
ep 3 was pretty bad but if you forgot about everything (including the acting rufflez) but the action scenes then it's definitely better than the other two prequels. those were really really really boring, especially ep 1.

ep1... :-\
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2007, 12:21:02 PM »
i "liked" episode 1 the best. once i stopped pretending it had anything to do with star wars and treated it like a distinguished mentally-challenged big budget kids' movie, well, i learned to appreciate pod racing. sorta. hey, it had an awesome score!

episode 3 is just functionally awful. it's a toss-up between two and three as to which is the more offensive cinematic abortion.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2007, 12:24:22 PM »
Fuck George Lucas. He's a goddamn hack.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2007, 12:30:30 PM »
Once Lucas re-edits Episode I for Blu-Ray/HD-DVD, it's going to rock.  He's going to replace Jake Lloyd with Hayden Christensen's little brother and CGI out Jar Jar and replace him with Yoda for all the scenes.  :-*
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2007, 12:41:16 PM »
I fell asleep in the theater during the pod racing scene.  :zzz
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2007, 12:59:48 PM »
I dunno what's up with you guys...Indy IV is fucking AWESOME.

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« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2007, 01:00:44 PM »
This movie sounds terrible.  Aliens?  Russians in Area 51? Even without the son thing this would sound really bad.  At least we got Marion back and not that stupid whore from Temple.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2007, 01:17:15 PM »
If this movie has aliens in it, or if much of this CHUD stuff is real, I'm not paying to see this movie. Fuck the nostalgia and music...fuckin aliens? Greaser Shia? Marion again? No religious artifacts?

No thanks. No thanks. I'm not seeing this movie if this is true.
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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2007, 01:24:37 PM »
If this movie has aliens in it, or if much of this CHUD stuff is real, I'm not paying to see this movie. Fuck the nostalgia and music...fuckin aliens? Greaser Shia? Marion again? No religious artifacts?

No thanks. No thanks. I'm not seeing this movie if this is true.
uh you knew marion was in it since the film got greenlit.

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2007, 01:27:46 PM »
I never liked that idea, but I didn't think it would ruin the movie. But added along with aliens? Hell no.

I'm not seeing this, if this news is true. I hope it's not true
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2007, 01:30:25 PM »
What the fuck is wrong with Marion, PD?  Marion is fucking awesome.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2007, 01:32:40 PM »
Marion rules. But I like Sophia Hapgood as much.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2007, 01:33:52 PM »
What the fuck is wrong with Marion, PD?  Marion is fucking awesome.

I don't like the idea of bringing back old characters just to fill up holes. I'm not even too thrilled about Dr Jones returning
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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2007, 01:43:56 PM »
Marion>>>>>>> the other indy girls combined

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2007, 01:46:41 PM »
Well yeah. But don't bring her back. WHY
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2007, 01:48:37 PM »
If you hosers haven't played Fate of Atlantis you suck.

Raiders of the Lost Ark > Fate of Atlantis > Last Crusade > Temple of Doom

YEAH I WENT THERE

Actually the Indiana Jones parody I made in 7th grade for French class is better than Temple of Doom.
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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2007, 02:03:44 PM »
Well yeah. But don't bring her back. WHY
would you rather Spielberg put his wife in it?

Also Cate Blanchet is the love interest. Marion is Shia's mom but she and Indy aren't a couple anymore.

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2007, 08:37:08 PM »
???

Nobody knows what Cate Blanchett's role is yet.
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« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2007, 09:33:05 PM »
???

Nobody knows what Cate Blanchett's role is yet.
Lucas mentioned she was a love interest in some interview at some oscars after party.

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« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2007, 09:34:25 PM »
I thought Cate Blanchett's involvement was announced after the Oscars?
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« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2007, 09:35:45 PM »
???

Nobody knows what Cate Blanchett's role is yet.

She's the alien queen.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2007, 09:50:21 PM »
PD, why are your tastes so effing weird?  Bringing back Marion and Daddy Jones is the best thing that'll happen to this movie.
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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2007, 10:50:26 PM »
PD, why are your tastes so effing weird?  Bringing back Marion and Daddy Jones is the best thing that'll happen to this movie.
The fact it has Marion and Daddy Jones helps SAVE the movie from turning into another temple of doom. Being against shia and aliens is one thing. But Connery and Karen Allen? Come on!

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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2007, 11:16:48 PM »
???

Nobody knows what Cate Blanchett's role is yet.

She's the alien queen.

Probably true
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2007, 12:35:29 AM »
Lucas's last film - Episode III (by far the best of the prequels and better than ROTJ)
I may be pointing out the obvious, but you killed your cred with that statement. >:(
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2007, 12:47:21 AM »
PD, why are your tastes so effing weird?  Bringing back Marion and Daddy Jones is the best thing that'll happen to this movie.

What purpose do they serve? I can already see the horrible age jokes. The father/son dynamic worked perfectly in Last Crusade. Here, how do you expect a father/son/grandson dynamic to work? It's going to be a trainwreck.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2007, 02:40:00 AM »
Seems like overkill to me.
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« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2007, 02:45:16 AM »
That's a perfectly cromulent defense.  Wait no it's not.

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2007, 02:49:13 AM »
Pfft. Sounds like a trainwreck to me tsk tsk
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« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2007, 03:17:30 PM »
Lucas's last film - Episode III (by far the best of the prequels and better than ROTJ)
I may be pointing out the obvious, but you killed your cred with that statement. >:(

Except for the fact I'm not the first to say this.

Either here or GAF or anywhere for that matter.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/return_of_the_jedi/ Rotten Tomatoes: Return of the Jedi 80%
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_3/ Rotten Tomatoes: Revenge of the Sith 81%

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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2007, 03:21:54 PM »
How does a father/son dynamic work oh so well but a grandfather/father/grandson dynamic become a trainwreck?

Because giving the main character a son just reeks of shark jumping.  Yes, bringing in Sean Connery worked (and saved Indy 3), but that's an exception to the "bringing in relatives makes things suck rules."  Also, Sean Connery is Sean Connery.  Shia LeWhatever is just some potential Hollywood it kid at the moment.

For the record, because of Sean Connery being a fine addition to 3, I reserved judgment on Indy 4 concerning the bringing in of a son.  After reading this synopsis, it's pretty clear the movie is going to be pretty shitty, though.
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« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2007, 03:42:56 PM »
Lucas's last film - Episode III (by far the best of the prequels and better than ROTJ)
I may be pointing out the obvious, but you killed your cred with that statement. >:(

Except for the fact I'm not the first to say this.

Either here or GAF or anywhere for that matter.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/return_of_the_jedi/ Rotten Tomatoes: Return of the Jedi 80%
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_3/ Rotten Tomatoes: Revenge of the Sith 81%



Doesn't make you right!  Revenge of the Sith was the worst of the prequels.  Maybe a hair better than Episode II, but that's not saying much,.
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Re: Some Indy IV Plot Details: Shia is a greaser and there are...aliens?
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2007, 07:54:05 PM »
ROTS is the best of the prequels; you're in a very small minority here.

Even still, debating over what's the best SW prequel is like debating over the best STD. Genital herpes are much better than gonorrhea but that ain't nothin to brag about
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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2007, 09:26:06 PM »
Not really.  I may be in a small minority for Star Wars fans, but not movie fans.
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« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2007, 09:27:17 PM »
It's interesting how the star wars prequels by and large are rather well liked if not loved by the critics. Hell Ebert gave ROTS 3 and a half stars. Yet stuff like the Pirate movies are trashed (At World's End  is already rotten).

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« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2007, 09:29:50 PM »
Not really.  I may be in a small minority for Star Wars fans, but not movie fans.

Yeah, right.

How can you possibly say ROTS is worse than the abortion that is Attack of the Clones? Please explain that to me. Usually I agree with your tastes but this is too crazy for me
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