The issue imo is that you kinda like Zelda but went and bought Dark Souls.
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it's a black movie because he eventually dies
After reading this thread, I'm convinced slavery should be given another chance.
2. Scarface3. The Color Purple5. Coming To America6. The Last Dragon7. Bamboozled8. Night of the Living Dead9. Antwone FischerWhile it ISN'T a film, it should be required viewing and or reading in all history classes: Roots.
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Quote from: Himuro on May 22, 2007, 05:13:19 PMIt's not necessarily a black people's movie, but it's still a staple. You can't be black and not see Scarface. No way, no how. It's impossible.But if its intrinsic value is that it's a rags to riches story, why are you picking one that is violent and glorifies a violent and vice ridden lifestyle? I think saying it's a movie every black man has to see is reinforcing negative stereotypes.
It's not necessarily a black people's movie, but it's still a staple. You can't be black and not see Scarface. No way, no how. It's impossible.
So you agree that it is the NUMBER TWO movie that every black person should see then? I'm not so sure I'd want Scarface to be a part of list that represents my race's culture.
What makes the Godfather flicks white people movies?
Quote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:02:56 PMWhat makes the Godfather flicks white people movies?The Godfather flicks are the white people movies par excellence. Vito Corleone embodies the American Dream!The only white people movie that's more required viewing than The Godfather is probably It's a Wonderful Life.
Quote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:05:32 PMQuote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:02:56 PMWhat makes the Godfather flicks white people movies?The Godfather flicks are the white people movies par excellence. Vito Corleone embodies the American Dream!The only white people movie that's more required viewing than The Godfather is probably It's a Wonderful Life.But the characters in The Godfather are still outsiders in US society. How is it any different than Scarface in that regard?
This is patently ridiculous. There's nothing racial about either Scarface or The Godfather. And how is Scarface more representative of "real crime?" Al Pacino acts like a cartoon character in the movie.
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Quote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:11:18 PMThis is patently ridiculous. There's nothing racial about either Scarface or The Godfather. And how is Scarface more representative of "real crime?" Al Pacino acts like a cartoon character in the movie.I know plenty of Cuban dudes who act just like Pacino. NOW THE QUESTION IS - do they act like that 'cause they're Cuban or do they act like that because they saw Pacino acting that way in Scarface? It's a chicken or egg thing.I think Scarface is a lot more representative of the black experience. A guy is brought over to America on a boat, with nothing to his name, and somehow finds a way to get rich and dominate a white woman.
Quote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:13:49 PMQuote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:11:18 PMThis is patently ridiculous. There's nothing racial about either Scarface or The Godfather. And how is Scarface more representative of "real crime?" Al Pacino acts like a cartoon character in the movie.I know plenty of Cuban dudes who act just like Pacino. NOW THE QUESTION IS - do they act like that 'cause they're Cuban or do they act like that because they saw Pacino acting that way in Scarface? It's a chicken or egg thing.I think Scarface is a lot more representative of the black experience. A guy is brought over to America on a boat, with nothing to his name, and somehow finds a way to get rich and dominate a white woman. so basically, black people are stealing Cuban people's movie? Typical of black people.
Quote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 05:14:57 PMQuote from: Himuro on May 22, 2007, 05:13:19 PMIt's not necessarily a black people's movie, but it's still a staple. You can't be black and not see Scarface. No way, no how. It's impossible.But if its intrinsic value is that it's a rags to riches story, why are you picking one that is violent and glorifies a violent and vice ridden lifestyle? I think saying it's a movie every black man has to see is reinforcing negative stereotypes.I think if you look at it from a certain perspective, there's something perversely enjoyable about seeing a member of a minority coming from literally nothing and becoming wealthy and powerful simply due to his wits and the willingness to do violence. He then proceeds to dominate one of the symbols of the ruling class - a beautiful white woman. It's pure wish fulfillment, and I don't see it as reinforcing negative stereotypes any more than white people pretty much worshipping stuff like The Godfather and The Sopranos reinforces a negative stereotype.
So basically, black people want to be white?
Quote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:25:48 PMSo basically, black people want to be white?No, black people want to be successful. And Tony Montana isn't white. He's latino. A minority, just like the black community.
Quote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:28:15 PMQuote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:25:48 PMSo basically, black people want to be white?No, black people want to be successful. And Tony Montana isn't white. He's latino. A minority, just like the black community.Al Pacino isn't latino. It's not my fault that the movie is poorly cast.
Quote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:36:05 PMQuote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:28:15 PMQuote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:25:48 PMSo basically, black people want to be white?No, black people want to be successful. And Tony Montana isn't white. He's latino. A minority, just like the black community.Al Pacino isn't latino. It's not my fault that the movie is poorly cast.The only latino playing a latino in the movie is the dude that plays Tony's best friend. But that doesn't change the fact that Pacino's playing a latino character.I think you are pulling my leg, man.
The movie has penetrated urban black culture in a way that it hasn't in the mainstream. That's the truth.
Quote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:40:10 PMThe movie has penetrated urban black culture in a way that it hasn't in the mainstream. That's the truth.So basically, urban rap culture is black culture? You think they would at least idolize movies that had, you know, memebers of their own race in them.
That was a terrible movie, Father_Mike. Why do you keep bringing it up?
Dude, if my daughter came to my house and told me she wanted to marry a widowed doctor who was like ten years older than her who she'd only known for NINE DAYS, I would get my shotgun, no matter the dude's race.Stupid, preachy movie.
Quote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:41:17 PMQuote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:40:10 PMThe movie has penetrated urban black culture in a way that it hasn't in the mainstream. That's the truth.So basically, urban rap culture is black culture? You think they would at least idolize movies that had, you know, memebers of their own race in them.It's not their fault that movies with black casts tend to be shitty.
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Quote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:43:01 PMQuote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:41:17 PMQuote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:40:10 PMThe movie has penetrated urban black culture in a way that it hasn't in the mainstream. That's the truth.So basically, urban rap culture is black culture? You think they would at least idolize movies that had, you know, memebers of their own race in them.It's not their fault that movies with black casts tend to be shitty.But it's still the fault of the black casts! If they can't make good movies, they are not allowed to steal other races' movies.
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Quote from: Beezy on May 22, 2007, 09:59:40 PM(Image removed from quote.)I remember jacking off to the bathroom sex scene in that movie. First time I realized you didn't have to have sex laying down on a bed.
Quote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:40:10 PMThe movie has penetrated urban black culture in a way that it hasn't in the mainstream. That's the truth.So basically, urban rap culture is black culture?
Quote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:41:17 PMQuote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:40:10 PMThe movie has penetrated urban black culture in a way that it hasn't in the mainstream. That's the truth.So basically, urban rap culture is black culture? Huh? Where did you get this? This has nothing to with rap culture.
Quote from: Michelle the Fibber on May 22, 2007, 10:02:55 PMQuote from: Beezy on May 22, 2007, 09:59:40 PM(Image removed from quote.)I remember jacking off to the bathroom sex scene in that movie. First time I realized you didn't have to have sex laying down on a bed. Did you jack it in the theater?
Quote from: Himuro on May 22, 2007, 10:06:21 PMQuote from: TVC 15 on May 22, 2007, 09:41:17 PMQuote from: Ichirou on May 22, 2007, 09:40:10 PMThe movie has penetrated urban black culture in a way that it hasn't in the mainstream. That's the truth.So basically, urban rap culture is black culture? Huh? Where did you get this? This has nothing to with rap culture. To be fair, Scarface is a HUGE part of rap culture.
black movies are pretty shitty all in all.they're either...a). we're opressed, white man be holding us downb.) look at me, i'm a girl and i'm black and sassy (black comedies)c.) we be gangsta bang bangThe only good black movies are black family comedies. they're awesome.
Himu: Are you talking about Brown Sugar? Your pic was hotlinked and didn't work