Author Topic: Bourne > Bond (Read 3902 times)

CajoleJuice · « **on:** June 16, 2007, 12:53:18 PM »

I NEED THIS MOVIE NOW

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1 on:** June 16, 2007, 12:54:30 PM »

Personally I can't stand Bond or anything he represents.

Bourne

Cyanista · « **Reply #2 on:** June 16, 2007, 12:55:53 PM »

Cosign. To use the parlance of our times.

bud · « **Reply #3 on:** June 16, 2007, 12:56:43 PM »

you know what, i agree. bourne is infinitely more badass but one thing that bond has that bourne doesn't have is the honeys

you forgot one poster btw

Ichirou · « **Reply #4 on:** June 16, 2007, 12:57:25 PM »

What does Bond represent, PD? $:-\$

bud · « **Reply #5 on:** June 16, 2007, 12:58:06 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on June 16, 2007, 12:57:25 PM

What does Bond represent, PD? $:-\$

he represent badass crackas

matt damon

edit: i misread

however, bond is much more of a womanizer than bourne but then again, BOURNE DOESN'T HAVE TIME FOR HOS

Ichirou · « **Reply #6 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:03:09 PM »

Casino Royale was pretty fucking awesome. I liked it more than the two Bourne movies. The second Bourne movie especially made me nauseous with the weird constant shakycam.

bud · « **Reply #7 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:04:02 PM »

i had that with batman: begins.

i think the shakycam in the bourne movie works, like it does in most of greengrass' movies.

Ichirou · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:05:09 PM »

The shakycam during the final fight in Batman Begins was fucking AWFUL. I hope they avoid that for the sequel.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:07:24 PM »

Quote from: bud on June 16, 2007, 01:04:02 PM

i had that with batman: begins.

i think the shakycam in the bourne movie works, like it does in most of greengrass' movies.

I'm going to have to admit that the shaky-cam fucked up the fight in the house in Supremacy. It didn't fuck up the incredible car chase though.

Cyanista · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:13:20 PM »

It did. Fuck shakycam. The action in the Bourne Identity was SO GOOD. THAT housefight was insane.

Ichirou · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:14:30 PM »

I think shakycam is a sign that the director isn't confident he can direct an action scene that can be edited cleanly. It's bad form.

Mupepe · « **Reply #12 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:15:47 PM »

i still need to see supremacy. but from identity, i can agree with this thread.

CASINO ROYALE IS A SHITTIER/FUNNIER VERSION OF MAVERICK! BOTH OF WHICH ARE INCREDIBLE FEATS!

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #13 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:17:12 PM »

Quote from: Cyanista on June 16, 2007, 01:13:20 PM

It did. Fuck shakycam. The action in the Bourne Identity was SO GOOD. THAT housefight was insane.

"Y'know, I always thought that Matt Damon was like a Streisand, but he's rocking the shit in this one!"

Ichirou · « **Reply #14 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:17:54 PM »

Everyone knows Maverick was Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster's finest hour.

bud · « **Reply #15 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:19:01 PM »

maverick was awesome. it's probably my favourite movie about poker

Mupepe · « **Reply #16 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:20:44 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on June 16, 2007, 01:17:54 PM

Everyone knows Maverick was Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster's finest hour.

It is HILARIOUS. I love the movie. I just say shittier to piss people off.

casino royale is terrible though. really.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #17 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:21:02 PM »

Quote from: bud on June 16, 2007, 01:19:01 PM

maverick was awesome. it's probably my favourite movie about poker

No. Matt Damon wins again.

Ichirou · « **Reply #18 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:22:01 PM »

lol, the funny thing is, that's not Matt Damon's or Edward Norton's hands. Kinda creepy when you think about it.

And Casino Royale rocked my socks off.

bud · « **Reply #19 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:23:05 PM »

i loved that one too (damon quit lawschool

) because it also had norton in it (one of my favourite actors) but maverick is one of my childhood memories that aged pretty well. the first time i saw rounders was 3 year ago iirc.

Solo · « **Reply #20 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:25:12 PM »

My opinion > Your opinion

bud · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:25:41 PM »

fact > opinion

Error Macro · « **Reply #22 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:27:03 PM »

The first four Bond movies and OHMSS make me question this decision, or at least that's the fondness of nostalgia talking. If we are talking about most everything after those, and especially the more recent films, then hell yes Bourne is absolutely better. Casino Royale was trash. The Bond franchise is dead.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:29:46 PM »

Error is no longer my friend.

Cyanista · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:33:39 PM »

He doesn't need you, Willco!

PS you can love James Bond as much as you want, but the first Bourne movie was one of the smartest, best acted action movies I've ever seen. I don't think that can be said of any Bond film. $:-\$

Cheebs · « **Reply #25 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:34:29 PM »

Quote from: Error Macro on June 16, 2007, 01:27:03 PM

Casino Royale was trash. The Bond franchise is dead.

Except Casino Royale is the best reviewed wide-release movie of 2006 and boxoffice wise and critic wise it is credited with reviving the franchise to be cool and beloved again.

Cyanista · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:36:31 PM »

Critics are distinguished mentally-challenged. They gave Weezer's Pinkerton NO STARS and Let's Go To Prison scored like nothing on the rotten tomato.

Many critically acclaimed movies are crap.

bud · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:38:12 PM »

critics also bashed potc2:dmc

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i loved potc2. potc2>potc1

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Yeti · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:40:48 PM »

Let's Go to Prison was above average at best. But maybe I was spoiled by Arrested Development.

Ichirou · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:41:41 PM »

Fuck what critics think. Think for yourself. I loved Casino Royale and Spider-Man 3.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:45:19 PM »

Quote from: Cyanista on June 16, 2007, 01:33:39 PM

PS you can love James Bond as much as you want, but the first Bourne movie was one of the smartest, best acted action movies I've ever seen. I don't think that can be said of any Bond film. $:-\$

The Bourne Identity rocked, as did Supremacy, but Bourne is not better than Bond.

Solo · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:45:28 PM »

Quote from: Error Macro on June 16, 2007, 01:27:03 PM

Casino Royale was trash. The Bond franchise is dead.

Casino Royale's box office (most successful Bond movie), critical reception (best reviewed wide release last year), and fan reception (save for a small niche of you crazy interweb folks) say otherwise. The Bond franchise is on more solid footing now that it has been in 30 years. CR is the best Bond film ever (yes, I finally said it; just tops FRWL and OHMSS), and I personally enjoyed it more than either Bourne film (but I love both of those as well).

demi · « **Reply #32 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:46:32 PM »

Haven't seen any of the movies being thrown around this thread, MEH

Error Macro · « **Reply #33 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:55:02 PM »

Quote from: Willco on June 16, 2007, 01:29:46 PM

Error is no longer my friend.

But what of the things we've shared? What of all the sweet words that you spoke in private?

Quote from: Cheebs on June 16, 2007, 01:34:29 PM

Quote from: Error Macro on June 16, 2007, 01:27:03 PM
Casino Royale was trash. The Bond franchise is dead.
Except Casino Royale is the best reviewed wide-release movie of 2006 and boxoffice wise and critic wise it is credited with reviving the franchise to be cool and beloved again.

Do I...give a shit? As has been previously stated, critics should have no bearing on one's opinion. They certainly don't on mine.

I refrain from the nauseating use of "IMO" in my posts, but I'll clarify things: the Bond franchise is dead TO ME.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #34 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:56:42 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 16, 2007, 01:34:29 PM

Quote from: Error Macro on June 16, 2007, 01:27:03 PM
Casino Royale was trash. The Bond franchise is dead.
Except Casino Royale is the best reviewed wide-release movie of 2006 and boxoffice wise and critic wise it is credited with reviving the franchise to be cool and beloved again.

The Departed was reviewed better. Metacritic is a better measuring bar than Rotten Tomatoes.

bud · « **Reply #35 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:57:41 PM »

the departed was awesome.

i still need to watch the extras and appearently they're pretty good

Solo · « **Reply #36 on:** June 16, 2007, 01:58:49 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 16, 2007, 01:56:42 PM

The Departed was reviewed better. Metacritic is a better measuring bar than Rotten Tomatoes.

But if TD was higher rated on RT? Would it be better then? Oh JUICE

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #37 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:00:31 PM »

Yes, it would be. I usually stick to Rotten Tomatoes since it's what EVERYONE uses, but its system is too simple. Metacritic takes the actual scores into consideration, not just "favorable" or "unfavorable"

Solo · « **Reply #38 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:01:17 PM »

But how does that work? Not every critic gives scores. And then some use letters.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #39 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:01:55 PM »

Quote from: Solo on June 16, 2007, 02:01:17 PM

But how does that work? Not every critic gives scores. And then some use letters.

They assign a number score to the letters. And I've never seen a critic that doesn't give a score...

Solo · « **Reply #40 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:03:17 PM »

Some do. In reality, its a better way to review. That way people actually read your thoughts as opposed to just reading the score and moving on.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #41 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:04:08 PM »

You give scores.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #42 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:06:20 PM »

And Children of Men also scores higher than Casino Royale on Metacritic. You should like that.

Solo · « **Reply #43 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:10:53 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 16, 2007, 02:04:08 PM

You give scores.

I do. My way is hardly what Id call the best way though. Just the easiest way.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #44 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:44:35 PM »

I'd say you can go either way. Bond's best iteration, From Russia with Love, is fucking leagues better than Identity. However, on the whole, the Bourne series is much more enjoyable than watching the majority of the Bond films. When a good Bond film comes out, it's really fucking good.

To deny Casino Royale's awesome though is pure shit. It's the best Bond in over thirty years.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #45 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:47:10 PM »

bond win couse he get girls and doesn't go all emo when they die.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #46 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:50:55 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on June 16, 2007, 02:47:10 PM

bond win couse he get girls and doesn't go all emo when they die.

Did you NOT see Casino Royale?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #47 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:52:53 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 16, 2007, 02:50:55 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on June 16, 2007, 02:47:10 PM
bond win couse he get girls and doesn't go all emo when they die.

Did you NOT see Casino Royale?

I don't count that piece of shit. and it was acceptable in eyes only.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #48 on:** June 16, 2007, 03:41:01 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on June 16, 2007, 02:52:53 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 16, 2007, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on June 16, 2007, 02:47:10 PM
bond win couse he get girls and doesn't go all emo when they die.

Did you NOT see Casino Royale?

I don't count that piece of shit. and it was acceptable in eyes only.

You have failed twice in one post.

Casino Royale was awesome, stop denying it. AND, when Bond's wife at the end of OHMSS gets shot, Bond cries. That's the single best moment in ANY Bond movie ever.

Yeti · « **Reply #49 on:** June 16, 2007, 08:06:40 PM »

I would like to see the Bourne movies become a franchise instead of a trilogy, then they can actually be compared.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #50 on:** June 16, 2007, 08:12:09 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on June 16, 2007, 12:57:25 PM

What does Bond represent, PD? $:-\$

To me he represents this very archaic character who always gets the girl(s), doesn't sweat or bleed, etc. Granted that changed in Casino Royale, but I'm talking more about Connery - who is still the iconic one. I don't like any of the old Bond movies, and find them all to be repulsive. I hate the rampant sex and the extremely repetitive plot devices. While Bond is definitely badass, his villians are extremely stupid to comical porportions. I don't like the series, period.

Want to know how to kill Bond? Send an AIDS infested chick to his house. He may not die right away, but he won't be jumping out of planes anytime soon

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #51 on:** June 16, 2007, 09:15:37 PM »

I hear thats how the first M died -- AIDS.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #52 on:** June 16, 2007, 09:16:04 PM »

Every time I think of Bourne I think of

MATT DAMON

Every time I think of James Bond I think of

James Bond fucking owning people because the actor they cast kicked ass and

some of the hottest girls ever. Especially Eva Green.

Casino Royale kicked ass. If you found something to nitpick in that film, then I don't see how. You must be high or fucking distinguished mentally-challenged or too anal to see straight. More than likely the anal part.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #53 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:35:09 PM »

I probably walked out the most satisfied out of all my friends.

Mupepe · « **Reply #54 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:35:52 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 16, 2007, 10:35:09 PM

I probably walked out the most satisfied out of all my friends.

walked out of what? CR?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #55 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:40:17 PM »

Yea, first time I walked out thinking it was great, but my buddy didn't seem too impressed. Went to see it a second time with more friends and enjoyed it less and my friends weren't into all that into it either.

Mupepe · « **Reply #56 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:41:57 PM »

i watched it on a date with Fatal1t and we both agreed that it's shit. it was sooooo boring. balls, man. balls

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #57 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:42:54 PM »

Dude, it's not shit.

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But it's no Bourne Identity either.

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Mupepe · « **Reply #58 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:43:22 PM »

fine, it's balls.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #59 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:47:18 PM »

Quote from: Rob Thomas on June 16, 2007, 10:43:22 PM

fine, it's balls.

i like ur balls, i hear they're big

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Author Topic: Bourne > Bond (Read 3902 times)