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scientific joke michael behe feels the rape in his intelligently designed anus:

http://richarddawkins.net/article,1271,The-Great-Mutator,Jerry-Coyne-The-New-Republic

summary for the illiterate tardbots: jerry coyne reviews lehigh university's perfessor retardus michael behe's latest attempt to make intelligent design credible, the book The Edge of Evolution. in this book, behe retreats from claims that evolution is "irreducibly complex" and therefore must be the work of the christian and possibly baptist christian god, and instead claims that god is responsible for the random mutations that enable evolution. jerry coyne then pees straight into behe's gibbering craw and men of reason everywhere laff.

choice passages:

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Who, precisely, was the Designer? Here Behe weasels a bit, as he should given the federal judiciary's dislike of religion in the science classroom. He mentions that the Christian God is only one of several possibilities. But you can bet that it was not Brahma, or the Bushmen's Kaang, or a space alien. As Jones remarked in Kitzmiller v. Dover: "Consider, to illustrate, that Professor Behe remarkably and unmistakably claims that the plausibility of the argument for ID depends upon the extent to which one believes in the existence of God." It is disingenuous of IDers to pretend that the Great Designer is unknown. Intelligent design has deep roots in fundamentalist Christianity, and its advocates are not fooling anyone.


And what were the Designer's goals? This is where Behe really gives away the game. He asserts that the goal was "intelligent life." Of course, what he really means is humans, presumably because Christians (Behe is a Catholic) feel that humans were made in the image of God: "What we sense, as elaborated through modern science's instruments and our reasoning, is that we live in a universe fine-tuned for intelligent life." And elsewhere: "Parts were moving into place over geological time for the subsequent, purposeful, planned emergence of intelligent life."

From God's mouth to Behe's ear! At this point we can simply stop asking whether Behe's theory is scientific, for he provides not the slightest evidence that evolution had any goal, much less one of intelligent life. In fact, every form of life on Earth, from humans to ferns to squirrels, can trace its ancestry back to the same single species that lived about three and a half billion years ago. In that sense, all species are equally evolved and equally removed in time from life's origin. Science long ago dispensed with the notion of the scala natura: a progressive ladder of life with humans at the top. Rather, each existing species is at the tip of a branch on the tree of life. So what scientific reason can there be for singling out just one species as the Designer's goal? How do we know that the goal was not butterflies or sunflowers? Plainly, Behe is adopting religious dogma as part of his theory. Yet he continues to assert that "I regard design as a completely scientific conclusion."

And what about the features of organisms that do not look well designed, such as the appendix, the vestigial wings of the kiwi bird, or the vestigial pelvis of whales? In Darwin's Black Box, Behe punted and said that the Designer's goals were unknowable: "Features that strike us as odd in a design might have been placed there by the designer for a reason--for artistic reasons, for variety, to show off, for some as-yet-undetected practical purpose, or for some unguessable reason--or they might not." But if we do not know why the Designer did things, how can we possibly know that his goal was intelligent life?

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Is Behe's theory testable? Well, not really, since it consists not of positive assertions, but of criticisms of evolutionary theory and solemn declarations that it is powerless to explain complexity. And it is certainly true that scientists will never be able to give Darwinian explanations for the evolution of everything. The origins of many features, such as the bony plates on the back of the Stegosaurus, are lost in the irrecoverable past. But neither can archaeology unearth everything about ancient history. We do not maintain on these grounds that archaeology is not a science.

Behe waffles when confronted with the testability problem of ID and turns it back on evolutionists, saying that "coming from Darwinists, both objections [the lack of predictions and the untestability of ID] are instances of the pot calling the kettle black." He then waffles even more when implying that ID does not even need to be testable: "Both additional demands--for hard-and-fast predictions or for direct evidence of a theory's fundamental principle--are disingenuous. Philosophers have long known that no simple criterion, including prediction, automatically qualifies or disqualifies something as science, and fundamental entities invoked by a theory can remain mysterious for centuries, or indefinitely."

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In the end, The Edge of Evolution is not an advance or a refinement of the theory of intelligent design, but a retreat from its original claims--an act of desperation designed to maintain credibility in a world of scientific progress. But it is all for nothing, because Behe's new theory remains the same old mixture of dead science and thinly disguised theology. There is no evidence for his main claim of non-random mutation, and scientists have plenty of evidence against it. His arguments against the Darwinian evolution of complex organisms are flawed and misleading. And there is not a shred of evidence supporting his claim that the goal of evolution is intelligent life. In contrast to the feast of evidence that nourishes evolutionary theory, Behe gives us an empty plate.

:lol OH NO NOW WHERE WILL THE CHRISTIAN HOMESKOOL'D GET THEIR TEXTBOOKS
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Re: tnr reviewer jerry coyne raperapes phoenix dark's homeschool hero
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2007, 10:40:39 PM »
TOO MUCH READING NEED BOLDING
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Re: tnr reviewer jerry coyne raperapes phoenix dark's homeschool hero
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2007, 10:47:27 PM »
There's this friend of mine who bought some ID DVDs and lured me to watch them by saying, "I bought this AWESOME movie, lets watch it." We all showed up thinking it'd be some rad Dead Alive-like horror movie... only it's a documentary about ID. He even went to the convention, and put on an ID presentation at the local community college...

lol.


Intelligent Design sucks. I'd pay money to see a real scientist poop in the gaping mouth of an ID groupie.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2007, 10:49:35 PM by drozmight »
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Re: tnr reviewer jerry coyne raperapes phoenix dark's homeschool hero
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2007, 10:48:40 PM »
evilboreans love intelligent design and the beatles. worst forum on the internet confirmed!
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Re: tnr reviewer jerry coyne raperapes phoenix dark's homeschool hero
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2007, 10:54:49 PM »
If there's an ID convention, and I hear about it Drinky, we should go interview them, and then twist their words in a hilarious way for internet humiliation.
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Re: tnr reviewer jerry coyne raperapes phoenix dark's homeschool hero
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2007, 10:55:18 PM »
also poop in their mouths.
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Re: tnr reviewer jerry coyne raperapes phoenix dark's homeschool hero
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2007, 10:58:14 PM »
Sounds like there isn't even science in Behe's book. Why on earth won't people just come out and call the spade a spade-the man is a confused charlatan, looking to make money off of buttressing American Christendom's "Cognitive Dissonance Deflector Grid" while desperately trying to keep the public perception of him and his movement high by trying to keep credible. The two just don't co-exist, and the incredible shear of his inner conflict probably has him balls deep in pederasty when doing his book tour knowing those crazy fundie types.

It's a shame we even have to have any debate at all on this with the ID team providing basically no consistent science to back their claims.

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