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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2700 on: November 25, 2019, 01:23:40 AM »
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I find the "burn it down" response to capitalism to be kind of missing the point.

I think we need to undermine capitalism and make it irrelevant. Unwind ourselves from our dependency on it, and commit ourselves to our interconnected wellbeing and liberation instead. Defeating capitalism will take relationships and community first and foremost.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2701 on: November 25, 2019, 01:25:41 AM »
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I dream about the world one day being covered in forests again
I thought people were supposed to be Googling things on ResetERA.com now.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2702 on: November 25, 2019, 01:26:31 AM »
Kojima already figured out that the only viable alternative to capitalism is a like-based economy to connect everyone with each other :snob
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2703 on: November 25, 2019, 01:28:41 AM »
omg

I'm on the Murray Bookchin philosophy of seeing capitalism as one aspect of the greater root evil of domination. Because yes fuck capitalism, but domination and oppression is about a lot more than just class divide and exploitation. This is where Bookchin moves beyond Marxism to integrate race, gender, colonialism, and ecology. He offers two earnest and extremely educated visions for how to understand and confront domination in all its forms: social ecology and libertarian municipalism.

To sum it up very briefly, social ecology is a theory that states that all of our ecological degradation is in direct relationship to our social degradation. In this way (and many others) Bookchin's analysis parallels and borrows from what indigenous, black, and brown theorists have been saying for centuries: domination is intersectional and all the forms it takes are (to varying degrees perhaps) inseparable.

Libertarian municipalism advocates a re-centering of our political lives to focus on both a hyper local and necessarily global perspective. It proposes neighborhood level councils as the center piece of community political life, with directly elected and recallable delegates chosen to then represent the people as candidates for local political offices such as city councils, school boards, local transit agencies, etc. But before running candidates for office, it's vital to build solid community relationships, organization, capacity, and power. This is a vital perspective shift: the root of our political power is in our relationships to each other, both as people but also ecologically as organisms and planet. Fuck, even cosmos. This is a central perspective in both social ecology and libertarian municapalism, and you'll see it echoed by some of the most shining examples of the philosophy in action, including in Rojava in Kurdistan/Syria and within the Zapatista project in Oaxaca. Build from the grassroots up. Focus on bread and butter work like growing food and helping each other eat and thrive. Start housing cooperatives, childcare collectives, community cafes, food pantries, support networks, neighborhood dinners, free dental clinics, etc. Build relationships and resiliency strong enough to face the future head on.

While organizing locally, we must also organize regionally and globally. We must make this an interconnected (and, to be specific, confederated) movement.

I could gush on and on about this shit honestly. I genuinely think this is the answer to capitalism and it's two modern forms: neoliberalism and fascism. But it's also the answer to climate change, to mass isolation and alienation and powerlessness, hunger, police accountability, demilitarizing our borders, ending war, etc. It's some next level visionary shit and I stan it hard.

brb I'm gonna edit with some educational videos lol

One of the organizers from Cooperation Jackson in Mississippi:



Bookchin on domination and his transition from Marxism to anarchism. This is before he started espousing municipalism, but it's still illustrative -- and funny imo:



A panel discussion on modern municipalist organizing in Europe and North America (including Bookchin's daughter Debbie Bookchin):


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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2704 on: November 25, 2019, 01:37:31 AM »
somewhere on page something  :nsfw

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2705 on: November 25, 2019, 01:39:23 AM »
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This thread, where to begin...

I’m sure there were many feudalism apologists back in the day, too. Imagine a capitalist having to deal with “Europe is what it is because of feudalism and the monarchy, why would you trust some unproven socioeconomic construct over something that has bettered mankind for centuries?!”
They’d lose their damned minds at the audacity of trying to claim that oppression by aristocracy was favourable to any alternative. Lucky for them, they don’t have to suffer the indignity of that conversation. Unfortunately for the rest of us, it means that many lack the understanding that they bring that indignity upon others in a similar position.

So long as the price system is in play (which is honestly the true enemy in all of this), it doesn’t matter if it’s capitalism or socialism, you’re still putting an arbitrary monetary value on human suffering at every turn, and it’s revolting to know it.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2706 on: November 25, 2019, 01:41:25 AM »
GOOGLE MURRAY BOOKCHIN

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2707 on: November 25, 2019, 01:44:25 AM »
GOOGLE MURRAY BOOKCHIN
if i do an image search will i see a man with a chin as large as a book?

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2708 on: November 25, 2019, 01:48:40 AM »
This is a meme; do not Google Murray Bookchin.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2709 on: November 25, 2019, 01:50:21 AM »
GOOGLE MURRAY BOOKCHIN
if i do an image search will i see a man with a chin as large as a book?


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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2710 on: November 25, 2019, 01:51:09 AM »
his chin looks normal :fbm

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2711 on: November 25, 2019, 02:04:39 AM »
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Also sensible that we respond to shootings by making bulletproof backpacks and create schools that look like Call of Duty warzone maps.

The """free market""" knows best after all. Yet another deity, something we project morals and ideals on, that is once again a phantom
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2712 on: November 25, 2019, 02:06:26 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fuck-capitalism.154965/post-26795614
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Why are you in debt?
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why does it matter?

we all know money doesn't grow on trees, and we know life happens fast and costs money.
we know debt isn't fun or kind.
so why?

maybe he got sick once, and lives in America.
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Because I was looking to offer help or advice if possible
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that's what you think.
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...uhhh yeah?
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unless you were about to hand down some cash, i'm curious what kind of advice or help you would be offering that could possibly be of use to OP.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2713 on: November 25, 2019, 02:17:36 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hold-up-wouldnt-satan-reward-us-heretics-instead-of-torturing-us.152204/page-6#post-26768908

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Sure thing. I'll expand on that thought a bit more in response to another post below.
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You're welcome. Ultimately, the battle for each individual person's immortal soul is not in the head so much (mentally) as it is in the heart (spiritually).

Say for instance a person has not decided to establish a eternal relationship with (the biblical) God. The bible says no one that is unsaved decides on their own to go looking for Him. That is to say, this person is not waking up one morning and thinking on their own, "You know, I honestly want to find God for a relationship with Him." and then goes out to try to find where God is at for that relationship to begin.

So, for a person to do that on their own (with no urging from God whatsoever) would be the ultimate good deed in their life (pure goodness is described in the bible as being"holy"), but all of us are completely incapable of doing that without Him because of the sin in our hearts (Psalm 14:2-3):


Romans 3:11-12 echoes that conclusion:


This is why God has to come to us, not the other way around. After defying God the Father's specific warning in the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve tried to hide from Him (Genesis 3:9). The whole scenario supports this main point perfectly... because of our sin, we don't go looking for God, we instead hide from Him as best we can.

In modern times, we hide from Him by immersing ourselves oftentimes even deeper into sin: alcohol/drugs, illicit relationships with other people, criminal activity, spritually lazy distractions like video games/TV shows/sports, etc. (if we prioritize them over Him), pride-filled vanity pursuits, emphasizing success/money/etc. over everything in life, and on and on.

So just like Adam and Eve, not only do the sinful people of any era or geographic location NOT go searching for God on their own, they run away from Him. However, the good news is that just as God still loved His children in Eden so much that He went out to search for them (Genesis 3:9), the Lord is pursuing each and every sinner that is still alive today with all of His heart to save them from eternal damnation brought on by their sin. Jesus said so Himself in John 6:44 and Luke 19:10:



How does Jesus do this? He doesn't solely come to our mind to merely reason it all out with us. That method is insufficient. The mind will entertain the temptations from Satan to consider false interpretations of Christianity, embrace false religions altogether, or reject God outright by saying He doesn't exist.

That's the best that the human mind that is corrupted by sin can do on its own. The deeper, more true connection between God and us is, again, through the heart. A stirring in the heart that begins with a sincere belief in Him after He first comes to each individual person in His desire for that relationship.

Jesus said in Revelation 3:20 "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me”. Jesus is talking about the door to your heart that you open with belief.

He will not force His way in, but will politely (and throughout one's relatively short life, persistently) continue to knock in hopes that you will *choose* to let Him in. The Holy Spirit carries out this activity on His behalf. If you do accept the Lord, your heart is transformed to be one with Jesus forever, and the two of you will dine with one another as the verse explains.

Dine on what? This is not a physical relationship that dines on earthly food, but through the heart it is an eternally spiritual relationship that dines on spiritual food: the word of God. As I said above in my first post, the real, eternal "you" is not the physical body, but the life that resides inside of it.

With the nourishment of spiritual food flowing inside, the real "you" has the fuel to grow spiritually. The spiritual growth begins initially here on earth once a relationship with Jesus is established in the heart, and ultimately continues forever in heaven. One of the most famous quotes from Jesus encounter with the devil when He refutes one of several temptations illustrates this principal (Matthew 4:4):

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The idea that God is punishing a person who does not choose to have a relationship with Him is not what the bible is describing. Instead, it goes like this:

- God evaluated the universe He created and everything in it at that time (before humans chose to sin). His conclusion was that everything was either individually "good" or altogether "very good" (Genesis 1). Nothing bad existed in the universe or on earth at that time. Sinful choices of mankind (starting with Adam and Eve) corrupted everything good that was created. Every physical aspect of the universe, every different type of human emotion and intellect, even the very nature of the soul itself, is tainted by sin in some way. This is why we have to deal with "natural disasters, illness, infant mortality, etc."... our collective choice to sin brought those misfortunes upon us, not Him.

- With that said, everything good that still remains comes from God (James 1:17). Not only external, physical things of His creation (water, the breath of life, the components of effective medicine/healing technology, many kinds of talents in the arts and other areas of skill and ability, etc), but this also includes the internal moral compass of what is good that everyone was born with that the person can choose to follow, to ignore, or to defy. This understanding is brought to the person's attention via the Holy Spirit, aka a "good conscience" (John 16:7-8), who also makes the case for Christ in an unrepentant sinner's heart (John 15:26). The "bad conscience" is wrought with temptation that is brought into your mind by Satan (Matthew 6:13).

- God stated the consequence for defying Him: death, which initially meant an infinite life in a perfect universe (untainted by sin at the time) was no longer possible. This was to be followed by death in the form of an eternal separation from Him after the physical death, which is said to be burning in the lake of fire forever (the absence of anything good since God is no longer around them).

- No one in and of themselves is "good" due to their sinful choices to defy their Creator once temptation is brought to their attention. Not Adam or Eve, not you, not me, not MLK, not Jesus' mother, not the Dali Lama, not the Pope, not Noah, not Moses, not the apostles Peter or Paul...no one is good, no not one (Romans 3:10-12 and Isaiah 64:6).

- God the Father cannot be around sin. Heaven is where He resides and sin cannot enter that place. Why? For one, the pure holiness (perfect goodness) of the Father in heaven makes it impossible for sin to exist in His presence. Also, wherever sin exists, it taints everything and everyone with evil and corruption - no exceptions. Heaven would become just as bad as the universe is now if sin were allowed inside of it, filled with sorrow and anguish and hate and wickedness and perversion and more.

- You yourself believe it would be wonderful if there were no more "natural disasters, illness, infant mortality, etc.". Me too! That's in great part why I am looking forward to when I get to heaven (after God's plan for me here on earth has ended). It will be the place where not one iota of "bad" or death will ever exist ever again (Revelations 21:4). God has made this freely available to everyone who will then be able to be  forever in the presence of the Lord (1 John 3:2).

- No one who makes it to heaven (by choosing to believe in their Creator) gets in by any list of good deeds they accomplished on earth. Entry is a free gift for whoever wants it. They affirm that they want it by believing in He who is giving salvation away. Only by coming forward to God the Father with the righteousness of Jesus Christ representing them (instead of their own righteousness) can one enter into heaven (Romans 10:9–10).

Therefore, the ones that wind up in hell have only themselves to blame and not God. All of them chose not to have a relationship with the Lord, and hell is the only place where that choice can sadly be honored (God will not force you to choose Him over the love of sin).

Everyone innately knows enough about right and wrong (whether they've heard of Jesus and the bible or not) to agree they have no defense of ignorance against His judgement for many of the sins they chose to commit. Not one of us can claim that we have never lied, that we have never cheated, that we have ever acted out in anger towards another, and that we have spent our lives defying our Creator. This includes sins of wrongdoing, sins of evil words coming from our mouths, or sins of intentionally developed thoughts (Mark 7:20-23) that we know are wrong in God's eyes.

With that in mind, He could have carried out the sentence on any of us at any time as a result. However, in His grace and mercy God provided an escape from eternal condemnation through the work of His Son on the cross and subsequent resurrection.

All a person has to do is accept that pardon since the price for their sin was paid if they want it. If you choose not to believe, how can you say that He is being unfair? You would simply receive what you chose to embrace instead: to be eternally separated from the only source of good in existence (the presence of God). If you don't agree to let Jesus pay for your sins, you will pay for it yourself.

With the absence of a rejected good God for eternity, one is by definition subjected to the absence of anything good forever and ever, which is horrifically bad beyond what any comprehensive description can convey. Still, it is through the bible that God warns against going to the lake of fire where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 13:42) and utter darkness (Matthew 22:13).

This is no game; this is your eternity.
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To the main point of objection, you are not fully aware of what you ask in your desire for everyone to obtain the "truth" that we all "deserve" when defending Adam and Eve's sin of eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge that was forbidden to them.

Since you say you are familiar with the narratives in the bible, think about it for a bit. Firstly, God stated that defying Him would bring death into their lives (Genesis 2:16-17). Death wasn't present before then, so how is the introduction of the first death (the soul separating from the physical body, Hebrews 9:27) and later the second death (the soul eternally separated from God, Revelation 21:8) an improvement over their initial existence of peaceful bliss? It clearly was not, and it also shows that God told them the truth (with His awareness of how bad things would become for mankind), so no one could claim either ignorance of the law, or accuse Him of malfeasance.

Next, please note that Satan told Eve (who later passed the lie to Adam) that God was wrong and they wouldn't die if they defied Him (Genesis 3:4). That turned out not to be true, since an earthly death is obviously part of our physical timeline directly because of their terrible choice, and a spiritual death is what hangs over every person's head because of sin unless we believe the fact that Jesus paid for our debt with His own life.

So the question then is, what productive knowledge did they gain after defying God? There isn't an immediately obvious positive gain after they sinned from their standpoint since the bible doesn't state that Adam and Eve were happier, enjoyed life more abundantly, or had a deeper closeness with each other and God respectively. It doesn't even say that the skies were sunnier, their relationship with nature improved, that they became smarter and healthier, or that work became easier.

In fact, the opposite happens in every single one of these points (and a lot more). The woman was cursed to endure a painful labor to produce children and be subjected to a naturally more subservient relationship with her husband. The man was cursed to toil the earth to get it to produce anything worthwhile, and a physical death would eventually take him out. (Genesis 3:16-19).

Nature and the universe itself was scarred by sin in that destruction, pestilence, famine, drought, earthquakes, fire storms, disease, etc. were introduced into existence. Internally into humanity's heart came hate, strife, violence, wars, agony, misery and perversion.

So Adam and Eve did not celebrate their newfound knowledge of evil even before His judgements against them were passed down. Instead, they ran and hid from God because of guilt and shame, and they ultimately suffered (internally and externally) for the rest of their years on the earth as He had explained they would.

Ever since that awful moment in Eden, people since then have been trying to get back to that Utopian way of life. We try to delay death, predict and protect against natural disasters, impose laws to control deviant human behavior and fight in wars for various reasons. Any and all of this is a bandaid for worldwide peace and happiness at best, and moving us in the opposite direction at worse.

The problem is that sin is a constant roadblock as it prevents many from reuniting with God (through their choice to avoid Him) who is the only source of anything truly "good" like peace, love, joy, and eternal life.  So that discounts any value in knowledge that they (we) were conned by Satan into obtaining.

Carrying the point further, like a caring mom and dad it's not hard to think that God doesn't believe we need to experience the terribleness of sin in order to be complete people. What parent would reason to themselves, "Well, I already told my twelve year old that smoking crack is bad for her, but let me drop her off with strangers at a notorious crack house for summer vacation so she can come into that knowledge for herself."

That would be insane. Absolutely nothing good came to Adam and Eve (and us by extension) from listening to Satan's lie about obtaining "knowledge". Even sex wasn't forbidden to them since they were told to reproduce (Genesis 1:28).

Did they technically know more in general? About all things evil, yes, but they would have been better off simply trusting what God already knew about evil. They trusted the devil instead, and a price continues to be paid. So Jesus was correct when He said in John 10:10, which says in part:


This is all he does. To this day, Satan continues to tempt mankind with sin so that He can steal your love, peace, and joy (like he did with Adam and Eve), so he can kill every life that comes into existence (like he eventually did with Adam and Eve) and so he can destroy any truly good things in your life that comes from God, including attacking the opportunity for salvation (like he tried but failed to do with Adam and Eve).

Thankfully, Jesus provided a second half to the verse above:


Put Adam and Eve's misadventure aside for a moment. Today, here and now, are people who made the same awful choice that they did in that they gave in to the evil one's temptations. The bible doesn't say you will be condemned for doing that; you are already condemned (John 3:18). The bible doesn't say that you will be an enemy of God without His righteousness in your heart, you are already His enemy (James 4:4).

But due to His love, grace, patience and mercy, you still have his breath in your lungs to choose wisely while your eternal judgement is temporarily put on hold. In practicing what He preached in the sermon on the mount, Jesus loves His enemies (Matthew 5:44). That is the only reason why some of you still have the choice to accept an eternal freedom from the presence of sin over the choice of damnation due to the penalty of sin by wanting to be separate from your Creator.

The bible urges over and over (i.e., parts of Psalm 95:7-8) not to wait to respond to the Holy Spirit knocking on the door of your heart, but to instead accept the free gift of salvation today:

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Heh, one of my all time favorite tales as a kid was a really cool unauthorized spin-off of "Through the Looking Glass". The 1947 short story is called "Mimsy Were the Borogroves" by Lewis Padgett, and it kinda touches on the point that you are making at the end (though you can skip the terrible movie version that came out a few years ago). :-)
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I briefly addressed a similar claim in my first post, but that's not something we would ever had to worry about. God's is sovereign, and He will accomplish His plans to maximize the number of those who choose to come into salvation over the course of human history whether we decide to join with Him or fight against Him.

God's Plan A for humanity (John 3:16) is still in effect: to establish a two-way, loving relationship with whomever will choose to believe in Him (eternal life in heaven), and to sadly acquiesce to the choice of those who reject Him (eternal separation in hell).

How that plan plays out for our own, individual lives is up to us, but either choice won't prevent Him from moving his plans forward for all of mankind across the world and throughout the ages. He does it by his command because his word is that powerful (Isaiah 55:11):


Two examples...

In the book of Jonah, God had declared a judgement on the city of Ninevah in that they would be destroyed within 40 days because of their evil ways after Jonah finally delivered this message to them (he was initially delayed due to a self-inflicted set back). Though God was fully prepared to follow through on that judgement, He ultimately did not destroy those people because Ninevah citizens from the king on down repented (changed their hearts towards God).

So yes, God has various ways to adjust specific activity depending on what we choose to do (individually and collectively), but the ultimate Plan A was obviously still in effect as evidenced by His mercy in this instance. Sadly, once this generation died out, the future generations went back to their wicked ways and were ultimately destroyed 120 years later, but the blessing of eternal life for the initial generation will last forever.

The second example is one of the most eye-opening passages I've read in the bible... the Lord once ventured out into the wilderness in order to kill Moses who was camping with his wife (Exodus 4:24-26). The reason why is that at the time Moses was heading back to Egypt in order to confront Pharaoh and free the Hebrew slaves, but due to Moses giving in to his non-Jewish wife's decision not to allow their son be circumcised as Jewish boys were required, he was unfit to eventually bring God's Law (the commandments) to the Hebrews and be God's spokesperson if he couldn't follow the main laws himself. As the passage shows, eventually the wife reluctantly relented, so Moses' life was spared.

How different would history had been had Moses been killed? He still would've gone to heaven for his faith in God, but what about the Hebrews in captivity in Egypt? Simple - God would've raised up another (obedient) servant in his place. For all we know, maybe Moses was already the second or third choice because of, well, reasons.

In the end, The Lord's primary plan always moves forward whether we choose to be in or out.
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No, that would not have been an issue at all.

As I referenced in my first post, the bible said God wanted salvation for everyone (2 Peter 3:9 and 1 Timothy 2:3-4, among others) , and that hell was enlarged to accommodate people who died in their sins (Isaiah 5:14-15) since it was originally built only for the devil and his demons (Matthew 25:41).

We can take these perspectives to assume that the original plan for Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply" (had they not succumbed to the temptation of sin) would not have encountered any types of problems such as the one you describe (running out of room).

Even from what we do know of life on the corrupted world we live in right now, things are not nearly as cramped (space-wise) on this earth as you might think. Consider the fact that New York City is the most crowded city in the U.S. It has around 8,398,748 citizens who are poured out over about 303 square miles of land. This means that about 27,719 citizens live in each square mile of the city.

Compare that to this crazy statistic... if the state of Texas (261,232 square miles) were densely developed in a way that is comparable to life in New York City, the entire world's population of about 7,550,000,000 could then move into Texas with 28,902 citizens living in each square mile.

So whether you lived in NYC (27,719 citizens per square mile), or moved to Texas with the entire world living there (28,902 citizens per square mile), the density of people living around you would be roughly the same. Play that out over the course of the entire U.S. as time moves forward, or over all of North America, or over the entire world. Especially in an environment where sin had not yet corrupted anything, it would take eons for the earth to fill up without even a lick of discomfort or turmoil for anyone.

And what would've happened at that point? C'mon, some of you out there have played No Man's Sky. In God's undefiled universe, why couldn't humanity then venture out into space unhindered to expand the population even more? Remember, there is no death or evil circumstances to fear, so anyone could boldly venture out to see what wonderful things could be discovered and enjoyed (that's my theory at least, lol).

Nothing we've done in human history up to this point comes close to the awesomeness that God had planned for us to experience if we collectively maintained our trust in Him and not listened to Satan's temptations along the way. Thankfully, the promise of indescribable goodness is still obtainable for those who choose to spend eternity in heaven. When the Lord says that we cannot even imagine how cool everything in heaven really is (1 Corinthians 2:9), I for one believe Him.
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God bless each and every one of you!

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2714 on: November 25, 2019, 02:19:29 AM »
Those colours on my screen do not exist in real life.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2715 on: November 25, 2019, 02:22:27 AM »
Could God create colors even she couldn't see?

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2716 on: November 25, 2019, 02:39:04 AM »
Could God create colors even she couldn't see?
god doesnt have a gender you racist

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2717 on: November 25, 2019, 02:47:21 AM »
Millions of colours (usually)  :nope
Millions of gender identities  :ohyeah
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2718 on: November 25, 2019, 02:48:08 AM »
tfw it's a greyscale day

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2719 on: November 25, 2019, 02:57:06 AM »
Could God create colors even she couldn't see?
god doesnt have a gender you racist

Incorrect; god has all genders.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2720 on: November 25, 2019, 02:59:31 AM »
Much like Samus, God is a transgender woman in a wheelchair.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2721 on: November 25, 2019, 03:07:12 AM »
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This thread, where to begin...

I’m sure there were many feudalism apologists back in the day, too. Imagine a capitalist having to deal with “Europe is what it is because of feudalism and the monarchy, why would you trust some unproven socioeconomic construct over something that has bettered mankind for centuries?!”
They’d lose their damned minds at the audacity of trying to claim that oppression by aristocracy was favourable to any alternative. Lucky for them, they don’t have to suffer the indignity of that conversation. Unfortunately for the rest of us, it means that many lack the understanding that they bring that indignity upon others in a similar position.

So long as the price system is in play (which is honestly the true enemy in all of this), it doesn’t matter if it’s capitalism or socialism, you’re still putting an arbitrary monetary value on human suffering at every turn, and it’s revolting to know it.
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Price systems are means for an economic system to provide valuation to any commodity in the form of money. In modern price systems, that is expressed by fiat money (a promissory note that suggests it has value but does not have any intrinsic value itself).
What most of the world operates on, even socialist countries, is a “free price system”, where prices are determined mostly arbitrarily based on what a consumer is willing to spend for it and nothing more.

This, for one example, is why carbon pricing is such a demonstrably polarizing idea in society, because it imposes a value on, and thus commoditizes, befouling the earth, an act which people find both abhorrent in one hand and not something they believe should add value to a product on the other, along with some corporations who place no value on true sustainability and thus reject the price that’s applied to it.
Conversely, it allows the commoditization of human suffering, which is why we fine big corporate polluters in lieu of jailing them, more often than not. Or sometimes governments just take kickbacks to look the other way. But in either case, it is commoditizing suffering by putting a price on it. The price system not only allows it but encourages it.

capitalism COULD exist theoretically without the price systems we have. But billionaires and paupers alike seem to appreciate the arbitrary nature of the current system far too much to part with it.

People come into threads like this talking about Marx, but attention would be better given to Thorstein Veblen, who was also more anti-price system than anti-capitalist, but understood how those terms are almost always inexorably linked together, regardless of whether or not they should be. Interpretation of Marx by Lenin and Mao and other through the price system lens is part of why I think communism has inevitably failed, but that’s a whole other discussion. But it is why I say that the price system fails us all, even those in socialist countries.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2722 on: November 25, 2019, 03:08:17 AM »
Much like Samus, god is a poorly written fictional character who seems compelling to people with nothing else in their lives

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2723 on: November 25, 2019, 03:09:47 AM »


we have fun though

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2724 on: November 25, 2019, 03:12:26 AM »
Could God create colors even she couldn't see?
god doesnt have a gender you racist

Incorrect; god has all genders.
how dare you imply god is male

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2725 on: November 25, 2019, 03:16:40 AM »
how dare you imply there is only one god, they may have multiple alters

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2726 on: November 25, 2019, 03:25:53 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/do-you-feel-this-community-is-thicker-skinned-and-less-uptight-than-other-message-board-communities.1512391/
Someone should go in there and post the shower goblin's Paris climate accord message and see how quickly they get banned.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2727 on: November 25, 2019, 03:30:00 AM »
how dare you imply there is only one god, they may have multiple alters
how dare you dare

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2728 on: November 25, 2019, 03:49:53 AM »
Walls of text and Gaf links.

Slow night on the bire

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2729 on: November 25, 2019, 03:58:16 AM »
Imagine saying you used to mod ResetERA for 10 hours a day, as it is some fact you should be proud of
Imagine saying it was the hardest work in your life
Imagine going on a spiel about how it take courage and guts and sacrifice, as if locking threads and banning users on an online message board is some risky, Herculean task

Imagine saying all that in an attempt to gain pity points without a hint of irony and self-reflection  :girlaff
« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 04:34:44 AM by Averon »

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2730 on: November 25, 2019, 04:18:35 AM »
How dare you attack a true patriot of NeoGAF.com like this.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2731 on: November 25, 2019, 04:20:35 AM »
To anyone that’s a Christian, I challenge you to explain this:

Why did god make it so humans derive sexual pleasure from killing with their hands (as confirmed by convicted killers, including Bundy and Gacy) if we are not supposed to use this function? That is just bad design—why build a feature no one is ever supposed to use? That’s strange and bizarre API design at best, and the more likely answer is that it’s just a trap to fuck gullible assholes.

Explain this and I’ll convert to some sort of strange Russian church tomorrow.

Lapsed Christian. The design is fine, the circuitry on the other hand... Humans are imperfect, some more imperfect than others.

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“You feel the last bit of breath leaving their body. You’re looking into their eyes. A person in that situation is God!”

Serial Killers are just bad examples as so many of them are trying to play God. Which is obviously a big no-no in the Bible.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2732 on: November 25, 2019, 04:25:22 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/there%E2%80%99s-too-much-incest-in-porn-these-days.155057/

That is why you type "Not Mom and Not Daughter" in your Xhamster searches.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2733 on: November 25, 2019, 04:26:15 AM »
Lapsed Christian.

Interesting. What was it that made you start, and more importantly, stop?

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2734 on: November 25, 2019, 04:34:12 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/there%E2%80%99s-too-much-incest-in-porn-these-days.155057/

That is why you type "Not Mom and Not Daughter" in your Xhamster searches.
instead, search for father and brother  :fabulous

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2735 on: November 25, 2019, 04:34:44 AM »
Much like Samus, god is a poorly written fictional character who seems compelling to people with nothing else in their lives

You have nothing in your life, yet God does not compel you. Curious :curious
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2736 on: November 25, 2019, 04:40:54 AM »
Interesting. What was it that made you start, and more importantly, stop?

I was born into a Methodist family. Went to church every Sunday and then my Dad and I just stopped going. Always found it boring and it cut into the first NFL broadcast of the day. We also had a pastor that had been divorced twice over the years and we both found it hypocritical that this guy was guiding couples in troubled marriages. Have not been to a Church since I was in Junior High. Do not plan to go back until my passing. Still believe there is a higher power. There is good in most religions as charitable organizations but the bad outweighs the good. As much as I dislike the extreme left, my disdain for the extreme religious zealots is much greater.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2737 on: November 25, 2019, 04:49:28 AM »
instead, search for father and brother  :fabulous

Accidentally typed in "Father and a brother."  Always thought BBC was just a British TV network. Damn, that looked really painful.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2738 on: November 25, 2019, 04:57:11 AM »
instead, search for father and brother  :fabulous

Accidentally typed in "Father and a brother."  Always thought BBC was just a British TV network. Damn, that looked really painful.
Did the father broadcast the british right into the son's corporation?

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2739 on: November 25, 2019, 04:59:06 AM »
Interesting. What was it that made you start, and more importantly, stop?

I was born into a Methodist family. Went to church every Sunday and then my Dad and I just stopped going. Always found it boring and it cut into the first NFL broadcast of the day. We also had a pastor that had been divorced twice over the years and we both found it hypocritical that this guy was guiding couples in troubled marriages. Have not been to a Church since I was in Junior High. Do not plan to go back until my passing. Still believe there is a higher power. There is good in most religions as charitable organizations but the bad outweighs the good. As much as I dislike the extreme left, my disdain for the extreme religious zealots is much greater.

I've never been religious but i'll give that an amen.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2740 on: November 25, 2019, 05:03:29 AM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-want-to-say-thank-you-to-the-moderation-staff.155006/post-26780359
Quote from: OP
I'm just letting them know their work doesn't go unappreciated. What's wrong with that? Some people just want to see this place burn to the ground.

Quote from: SweenySwift
Your shit ain't as slick as you think it is tbh. I was tempted to keep quiet because this is an obvious bait/trap thread (btw, real cute putting that "the majority here appreciate you", because if there's anything queer posters, posters of color etc like being reminded of, it's that we're The Minority), but then you had to insert this shit which is just blatantly "Minorities with valid concerns and criticisms? Couldn't possibly exist, people just want to see this place burn to the ground" and it's fucking sickening to see us get downplayed and dehumanized to that regard so casually. Not just here and now but anytime we have something to say. If you want me being silent about it like you clearly want me and everyone else being silent about everything else that Bothers You, please spare us the time and outright say that you want us banned. At least that's honest

WTF is this?
 :cac

Support is casual racism.  I love how they blame outside forces for their paranoia.

Preach queen!

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God damn sis, go in!

I’m glad you didn’t keep quiet, it’s true, all of it.

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Amazing post. Thanks for writing it.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2741 on: November 25, 2019, 06:36:10 AM »
Interesting. What was it that made you start, and more importantly, stop?

I was born into a Methodist family. Went to church every Sunday and then my Dad and I just stopped going. Always found it boring and it cut into the first NFL broadcast of the day. We also had a pastor that had been divorced twice over the years and we both found it hypocritical that this guy was guiding couples in troubled marriages. Have not been to a Church since I was in Junior High. Do not plan to go back until my passing. Still believe there is a higher power. There is good in most religions as charitable organizations but the bad outweighs the good. As much as I dislike the extreme left, my disdain for the extreme religious zealots is much greater.

I pretty much hate everyone  :snob

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2742 on: November 25, 2019, 06:42:10 AM »
I hate everyone AND myself  :snob

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2743 on: November 25, 2019, 06:55:47 AM »
The only way that someone can know you're a minority online is if you broadcast your minority status to everyone at every opportunity and weaponise it in order to get status in the community or leeway from the mods for your bad behaviour.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2744 on: November 25, 2019, 07:21:10 AM »
Shut up Australian

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2745 on: November 25, 2019, 07:27:58 AM »

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This bit of intersectionality has been one of the hardest weeks I as an individual have had to deal with in my life.

We should all be so lucky as to have never have had a single real problem in our entire lives, Nepenthe.
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2746 on: November 25, 2019, 08:20:14 AM »
Page 48 has me shaking

Pray for Bork and the dog mod
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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2747 on: November 25, 2019, 08:29:01 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/there%E2%80%99s-too-much-incest-in-porn-these-days.155057/#post-26787560

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Do porn sites recommend you stuff based on what you've previously watched because now all I get are these kind of videos.

Check out this guy, doesn't even know how the internet works in the year of the lord 2019. Must be a boomer.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2748 on: November 25, 2019, 08:31:32 AM »
Quote from: Delphine Moderator, post: 26799291, member: 41553
This is my first post on the matter, and as I'm writing it, I'm not sure I will post it still. I'm one of the newest staff recruits, it's now getting close to 4 months since I've been appointed moderator, and it never stops being a wild roller-coaster. But the past week or two have been the most depressing and hurtful I've had to go through in a very long while.

I am a queer cis woman, as such, all LGBT+ related issues matter a great deal do me. And I saw several of my communities hurting. Being stuck in the middle, I felt like utter shit, and my mental health took a serious toll, to the point of physical self-harm (nothing serious, but it still happened). I questioned my position in the staff, I questioned my work, my ethics and morals. But this wasn't about me and it wasn't about my pain, so I stayed silent about it and weathered it all. I am just but a faceless moderator tag to most anyway. So I read the complaints, and heard the pain. I kept on reading, and I tried my best to listen.

At some point when everybody around you are just hurting, on all sides, it has to stop. I wanna build bridges, and I wanna let the hurt be healed, and we currently are planning on different ways of doing so, or are already doing so. Several communities on ERA have been hurting for much longer than I have. And it pains me greatly to see that. I want all minorities to feel safe, welcomed, valid and to freely exist in this space that we all love and cherish, for it is quite unique on the Internet, and absolutely needed. I'll do my best to do so, and hope that we can all make a better ERA out of this. I really want to. I know most of you do too.

I love this community a pretty good deal, and think its diversity is one of its strongest asset. I'm willing to tank any pain, as long as it means we can grow past it and be better together. I want to learn and I want to help. I don't know for how long I'll be able to weather this, it might eventually just catch up to me one day, but I'll do my very best to sincerely serve this community in the meantime, as much as my time, energy and mental health allow it.

I love you all.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2749 on: November 25, 2019, 08:35:44 AM »
Why is Cerium preying on individuals with very fragile mental states to be his moderators?

:hmm

Dude rakes in that acne cream cash, while these poor fucks don’t even get a fruit basket. I’m almost starting to feel bad for these dumb cunts.
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start a new community  based on open moderation and being welcoming to minorities and the first time you get tested do neither

How about closed moderation and "welcoming" to minors?

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2751 on: November 25, 2019, 09:16:53 AM »
Self harm due to a fucking forum?
Maybe you start should doing wellness checks on Frank.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2752 on: November 25, 2019, 09:28:47 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mental-health-era-ot2-community-and-understanding.95803/post-26797357
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This is a weird question, but is No Nut November actually healthy? I've heard that it's a right wing thing for some reason
Thank god Ketkat is no longer banned.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2753 on: November 25, 2019, 09:30:09 AM »
People downplay the homophobia all the time, post transphobic stuff all the time, and absolutely nothing happens

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« Reply #2754 on: November 25, 2019, 09:31:10 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mental-health-era-ot2-community-and-understanding.95803/post-26797357
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This is a weird question, but is No Nut November actually healthy? I've heard that it's a right wing thing for some reason
Thank god Ketkat is no longer banned.

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I want to stop masturbating because it has demonstrably affected my studies and scheduling in a negative manner (for example I'd get horny before doing my homework so I'd masturbate, but then I'd end up falling asleep bc I got too tired from my orgasm and thus miss my homework)

 :rogan


Literally has the brain of an ape

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2755 on: November 25, 2019, 09:31:56 AM »
So because it can be used to set a precedent in lesser crimes, something as simple as a password can't be retrieved by someone committing one of societys most agregious crimes? That sounds completely nonsensical. When the government finally decides to erradicate our rights it will happen with or without this case being used as an example.
Makes sense to me. #KamalaHarrisForThePeople

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2756 on: November 25, 2019, 09:35:30 AM »
User Banned (Duration Pending): Peddling Misinformation and Trolling; Prior Ban for Trolling

Relax. Privatisation of the NHS won’t happen. Just scare tactics from the Labour Party.
International companies leaving the U.K. is probably more likely to happen if Corbyn taxes them hand over fist, which his plans intend on doing. Brexit doesn’t help in the short term, but it’s been voted on and we need to respect the result of the first referendum, so its debate is a moot point at this time.

As for the Sterling devaluation, a Corbyn majority is going to tank it a lot further than any Brexit, save a very hard one. Corbyn’s policies got the financial market shook. Only thing helping is the odds of a Corbyn majority are so low (at this stage), but the further it goes up, the more market volatility you’ll see.
yikes, this now being against the rules is going to be rough

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2757 on: November 25, 2019, 09:36:05 AM »
Why is Cerium preying on individuals with very fragile mental states to be his moderators?

:hmm

Dude rakes in that acne cream cash, while these poor fucks don’t even get a fruit basket. I’m almost starting to feel bad for these dumb cunts.

It's not like he has a wide pool of well-adjusted, mentally resilient regulars to choose from.

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2758 on: November 25, 2019, 09:37:27 AM »
User Banned (2 weeks): sexist dogwhistles

Her criticism has Merritt, but Anita has a habit throughout her career to make it about her and not necessarily about the movement. And I know about the ungodly amount of harassment she gets, death threats. Which no one should go through or experience.

But I would argue if she was more part of a panel of representatives for the movement. It would not be all directed to singular person who tweets about the issue to bring levity to it.

IV seen her at panels, she comes off sometimes as a bully, and self-righteous. Gets to be on Colbert, gets tons of attention. Instead of the movement or group that she represents.

And that's my issue with how she comes off when talking about certain topics.

She makes it about her.
this is my new favorite meme, other than the PTSD the mods all have

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Re: DOJ |OT| We get it, you’re woke because you’re too afraid to sleep
« Reply #2759 on: November 25, 2019, 09:39:29 AM »
If shosta was still alive he could tell us what kind of non-serious but happened physical self-harm moderators like Delphine might practice.