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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2160 on: May 19, 2016, 12:48:36 AM »
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You, Mr. Trudeau...should graciously step down from your position...if you have any grace left!

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Looks like the legislature in Taiwan, Sri Lanka or Macedonia......not the "enlightened" and "tolerant" Liberal majority Canadian House of Commons.

Justin conducts himself in a very emotional way and this is just the tip of the ice berg of ineptitude.

Sunny ways indeed.

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We've all seen the poor little rich boys who react violently on the playground when they don't get their own way. Perhaps the PM needs to remember Parliament is not the private school his parents sent him to as a silver spoon child.

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Trudeau you behaved like a juvenile. I question your mental stability to hold your position as a Prime Minister.

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A person in a position of power physically grabbing and pushing people in the work place is a criminal offence in Canada.

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Unwanted touching, man handling and bullying is not allowed in any work place in Canada.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2161 on: May 19, 2016, 01:44:34 AM »
Oh Canada, you're blessed.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2162 on: May 19, 2016, 01:45:37 AM »
http://spiegel.de/international/world/a-1092328.html

It's nice to see Cold War marriages of convenience with super awesome governments are still possible.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2163 on: May 19, 2016, 02:07:29 AM »
http://spiegel.de/international/world/a-1092328.html

It's nice to see Cold War marriages of convenience with super awesome governments are still possible.

That's pretty much the exact same thing that was first on the agenda once Kadhafi was unlepered.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2164 on: May 19, 2016, 06:11:24 AM »
The more things change, etc. etc.


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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2166 on: May 19, 2016, 02:37:35 PM »
http://spiegel.de/international/world/a-1092328.html

It's nice to see Cold War marriages of convenience with super awesome governments are still possible.

These bellends will literally do anything to keep their shitty union afloat for a few more years and not admit they fucked up. They're already gonna start paying Erdogan a Kharaj.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2167 on: May 23, 2016, 09:18:44 AM »
Oil refineries stopped, CGT calling for unlimited strike in Paris public transportation starting June 2. It's happening (or not).
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2168 on: May 23, 2016, 01:15:17 PM »
Austria came real close to electing a far right President today.  Apparently exit polls had the FPO guy winning but the majority of the mail in ballots had the Green party candidate win, which put him over the edge.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2169 on: May 23, 2016, 01:19:02 PM »
I'm glad Hofer didn't win, but he got extremely close, still. :fbm

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2170 on: May 23, 2016, 02:29:06 PM »
I'm shocked he didn't win, tbh.

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« Reply #2171 on: May 23, 2016, 04:58:00 PM »
Rural areas (predictably) mostly voted for Hofer, while major population centers voted for Van der Bellen.

Neat map, distorted by population density:
https://austromorph.space/kartogramm/a-close-run-how-austria-voted-in-the-2016-presidential-run-off-results-as-of-23-may/

Styria is the most extreme case I could spot. Graz (the almost circular green blob in the south) itself had a strong majority for Van der Bellen, while every municipality surrounding it clearly favoured Hofer.


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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2172 on: June 12, 2016, 09:29:09 AM »
brexit is way more entertaining than grexit was


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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2174 on: June 16, 2016, 12:58:28 PM »
Jesus nationalist movements are such trash.

Cry about Islamic extremism while incubating your own  :doge

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« Reply #2175 on: June 16, 2016, 01:59:37 PM »
Surprise! right wing nationalists are scum

very convenient for the non brexit camp btw


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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2176 on: June 17, 2016, 06:44:20 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/17/exclusive-poll-eu-support-falls-after-jo-cox-murder/86031038/

Interestingly enough, the Brexit group actually gained in polls in the aftermath of Jo Cox's death.  Now about 2/3s of British want to leave the EU.

In other news, Switzerland withdraws their application to join the EU: http://www.politico.eu/article/switzerland-withdraws-application-to-join-the-eu/
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« Reply #2177 on: June 21, 2016, 08:02:46 AM »
Seems like This Jo Cox was a piece of work. Went campaigning in saudi against violence against children but said fuck all about the rape gangs passing young girls around in Leeds and Rotherham (less than 11 miles from her constituency.) Not enough Air miles in it i guess.

Also, her husband.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298572/New-charity-scandal-Save-Children-executive-quits-women-s-complaints-inappropriate-behaviour.html

 :lol :yuck

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2178 on: June 22, 2016, 12:34:09 AM »
Brits would be so dumb to leave  :lol

edit: bu honestly i wish theyll jut leave and stfu and we wont have to listen to their crying any longer and give them crappy deals where they still have to abide to our rules

byeeee
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2179 on: June 22, 2016, 04:09:49 AM »
Socialist French governement now digging to new lows. Paris police prefect told unions their next demonstrations could only be "static" instead of a traditional march because French police is "unable to contain violences" (last demo police stopped the march next to the Paris children hospital and some of the "black block" elements fucked up the facade, cue outrage...).

EDIT : Well, the prefécture just refused the right to held the demonstration  :neogaf What the hell are those fuckers doing. :confused

It's gotten so bad for President Hollande that the Socialist party first secretary caved in to a primary he will have to submit to. I doubt having a fresh face up will salvage it, but it might avoid a literal spanking.

EDIT : As for Brexit, I believe the UK should stay in but the voice of the voters should be heard (unlike how the French referendum on the Lisbon treaty was just brushed aside). Too long being part of the EU has been predicated on spreading doom and gloom on any alternative and forcing adherence to a flawed, broken construction. UK exiting would certainly warrant a debate on what we want the EU to be, really.
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2180 on: June 22, 2016, 04:37:50 AM »
I hadn't looked at the polling in a while. Mélenchon is polling almost as well as Hollande in the first round. And sometimes Bayrou if he's included.

Juppe's the only one who flat out wins against anyone. LePen wins the first round against everyone else, and always makes it to the run-off.

What a mess! Sad! Trump should run for French President. How fast can he get citizenship?

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2181 on: June 22, 2016, 08:27:15 AM »


I miss paul the octopus tbh

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2182 on: June 22, 2016, 10:57:08 PM »
How to use the Brexit to bitch about your ex-wife: http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/divorcing-europe/

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2183 on: June 23, 2016, 06:40:58 AM »
There will be enough "mail in ballots" to prevent a Brexit :hans1
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2184 on: June 23, 2016, 07:33:48 PM »
results coming in

http://www.bbc.com/news

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2185 on: June 23, 2016, 11:12:41 PM »
Jesus wtf
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2186 on: June 23, 2016, 11:19:26 PM »
Surely there was a shit ton of money to be made in currency speculation tonight :(
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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2187 on: June 23, 2016, 11:27:36 PM »
cant wait for them to start whining now about how unfair they are being treated once they are out  :lol

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2188 on: June 23, 2016, 11:31:38 PM »
what a disaster.   :goty2

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2189 on: June 23, 2016, 11:36:54 PM »
best part is if they will want free trade like norway or switserland they will need to accept all our rules and laws, like free movement of people, pay money, but get 0 say in anything  :lol

so whats the point of leaving  :lol

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2190 on: June 23, 2016, 11:39:48 PM »
Gonna be a lot of people who vote leave only to realizes they don't have better jobs or more money a few years from now.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2191 on: June 23, 2016, 11:45:04 PM »
Looks like me and my brother shall be vacationing in the UK fairly soon. That USD to GBP exchange rate. :whew

edit: Also, don't worry. We're white. :gaben
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« Reply #2192 on: June 23, 2016, 11:46:32 PM »
Gonna be a lot of people who vote leave only to realizes they don't have better jobs or more money a few years from now.

Yeah, and they'll leave their xenophobia behind after some honest self-reflection, rather than look for another scapegoat.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2193 on: June 23, 2016, 11:46:44 PM »
While I don't doubt the City of London's invisible empire had contingency plans for this, man there are going to be a lot of pissed off people in the City of London today.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2194 on: June 23, 2016, 11:51:07 PM »
tried to calculate the exchange rate with the danish crown on xe.com but site is getting hammered

pound has reacher lowest point against the dollar since 1985

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« Reply #2195 on: June 24, 2016, 03:16:23 AM »
So, that's the script ? Greeks were a bunch of lazy entitled parasites and the British are a bunch of xenophobic twats.
Europe is a great idea but the statu quo of its technocratic political apparatus is failing. It needs to be ramped up or scaled down.
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« Reply #2196 on: June 24, 2016, 03:19:49 AM »
While I don't doubt the City of London's invisible empire had contingency plans for this, man there are going to be a lot of pissed off people in the City of London today.

For those who don't know what Kara is talking about:




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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit? I hardly even know her!
« Reply #2197 on: June 24, 2016, 05:14:10 AM »
Meanwhile, amid the Trump and Brexit car crash, the Colombian governement and FARC have signed the first step to a complete ceasefire and weapon demobilization of the guerilla movement.
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« Reply #2198 on: June 24, 2016, 05:40:10 AM »
Holy Shit

They actually went and did it. Exciting times.

Germany just lost a political ally within the EU. This could actually mean good things. Or, more likely, we're going to look like even uglier school masters now.

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Re: International Politics Thread - And Iran, Iran so far away
« Reply #2199 on: June 24, 2016, 09:13:14 AM »
Gonna be a lot of people who vote leave only to realizes they don't have better jobs or more money a few years from now.

Yeah, and they'll leave their xenophobia behind after some honest self-reflection, rather than look for another scapegoat.
And here I thought sarcasm didn't work in plaintext.

Surely there was a shit ton of money to be made in currency speculation tonight :(
Yen went from ¥124/1USD to ¥99/1USD today.

Sadly, I will need to bring more USA money to Japan this month.

Fuck you, England.

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« Reply #2200 on: June 24, 2016, 09:22:23 AM »
I thought the markets would be down, but they are up along with gold and silver. Oil took a hit though.
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« Reply #2201 on: June 24, 2016, 10:13:18 AM »
I spoke too soon.  :doge
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« Reply #2203 on: June 24, 2016, 11:51:46 AM »
I spoke too soon.  :doge

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets-idUSKCN0Z92MZ

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Global capital markets reeled on Friday after Britain voted to leave the European Union, with $2 trillion in value wiped from equity bourses worldwide, while money poured into safe-haven gold and government bonds. Sterling suffered a record plunge to a 31-year low.

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« Reply #2204 on: June 24, 2016, 12:58:15 PM »
In my defense, at the time of the first post money.cnn.com was still showing the dow over 18,000
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit? I hardly even know her!
« Reply #2205 on: June 24, 2016, 05:16:21 PM »
Merkel gets a lot of flak (along with ze Germans in general), but they're going to be indispensable over the divorce process in making it as unpleasant as possible.

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« Reply #2206 on: June 24, 2016, 06:46:22 PM »
Henceforth can I use "Thanks, Britain," in place of "Thanks, Obama"?

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit? I hardly even know her!
« Reply #2207 on: June 27, 2016, 07:39:58 AM »
French labor law update : Ultimately the Paris Prefect and unions agreed on a Bastille - Arsenal route for the last demo. In case you're unfamiliar with Paris, it's basically Bastille to... Bastille, as the Arsenal harbor is a small branch starting at the famous place.

Since then, good news all around : Senate reintroduced some of the controversial measures that the Cabinet dropped during negociations and all around hardened the text & masked people conducted vandalism at two major unions HQs. New demonstration tomorrow in Paris...

Elsewhere, Labour is in shambles over the Brexit debacle and in Spain the PSOE ain't too doing too hot either.
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« Reply #2208 on: June 27, 2016, 07:48:04 AM »
I remember asking around in Spain and everyone seemed so certain that PP was going to lose big time in favor of PSOE and Podemos but looks like PSOE actually lost seats and Podemos remained static.
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« Reply #2209 on: June 27, 2016, 12:47:09 PM »
I remember asking around in Spain and everyone seemed so certain that PP was going to lose big time in favor of PSOE and Podemos but looks like PSOE actually lost seats and Podemos remained static.

It has been a regular pattern in Western Europe in the last decade or so, and I suspect it has to do with a mild echo chamber effect within cities (and / or younger populations).
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« Reply #2210 on: June 28, 2016, 05:50:20 AM »
An ukrainian soldier that was held captive in Russia under civil law (for the "murder" of two journalists killed by an artillery strike she did forward observation for) until last May is agitating the national politics (she was elected MP in absentia) going so far as aknowledging she would accept being President if so was the will of Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/09/freed-ukrainian-pilot-nadiya-savchenko-calls-for-talks-with-separatist-rebels
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« Reply #2211 on: June 28, 2016, 01:56:40 PM »
You go, girl!
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« Reply #2212 on: June 29, 2016, 12:24:54 AM »
Damn terror attacks in Istanbul

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« Reply #2215 on: June 29, 2016, 05:15:01 PM »
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The real lunacy of the United Kingdom’s vote to leave the European Union was not that British leaders dared to ask their populace to weigh the benefits of membership against the immigration pressures it presents. Rather, it was the absurdly low bar for exit, requiring only a simple majority. Given voter turnout of 70%, this meant that the leave campaign won with only 36% of eligible voters backing it.

This isn’t democracy; it is Russian roulette for republics. A decision of enormous consequence – far greater even than amending a country’s constitution (of course, the United Kingdom lacks a written one) – has been made without any appropriate checks and balances.
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In terms of durability and conviction of preferences, most societies place greater hurdles in the way of a couple seeking a divorce than Prime Minister David Cameron’s government did on the decision to leave the EU. Brexiteers did not invent this game; there is ample precedent, including Scotland in 2014 and Quebec in 1995. But, until now, the gun’s cylinder never stopped on the bullet. Now that it has, it is time to rethink the rules of the game.

The idea that somehow any decision reached anytime by majority rule is necessarily “democratic” is a perversion of the term.
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What should the UK have done if the question of EU membership had to be asked (which by the way, it didn’t)? Surely, the hurdle should have been a lot higher; for example, Brexit should have required, say, two popular votes spaced out over at least two years, followed by a 60% vote in the House of Commons. If Brexit still prevailed, at least we could know it was not just a one-time snapshot of a fragment of the population.
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« Reply #2216 on: June 29, 2016, 05:35:34 PM »
Can any of the parties campaign on not invoking article 50?  Seems like the election could easily act as a second referendum. 

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« Reply #2217 on: June 29, 2016, 05:39:29 PM »
Next UK election won't be until 2020, they have "fixed-terms" now. Unless the Conservatives have a mass revolt of some kind. They hold a majority of seats.

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« Reply #2218 on: June 29, 2016, 05:44:06 PM »
lol ok they fucked. 

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« Reply #2219 on: June 29, 2016, 05:44:50 PM »
I hate it when I have a good idea only to find out there is a law against it.