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International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« on: January 31, 2014, 10:16:41 AM »
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http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-legalized-vigilantes-arrests-knights-templar-drug-cartel-2014-1

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico essentially legalized the country's growing "self-defense" groups Monday, while also announcing that security forces had captured one of the four top leaders of the Knights Templar drug cartel, which the vigilante groups have been fighting for the last year. :dead

The government said it had reached an agreement with vigilante leaders to incorporate the armed civilian groups into old and largely forgotten quasi-military units called the Rural Defense Corps. Vigilante groups estimate their numbers at 20,000 men under arms.

The twin announcements may help the administration of President Enrique Pena Nieto find a way out of an embarrassing situation in the western state of Michoacan, where vigilantes began rising up last February against the Knights Templar reign of terror and extortion after police and troops failed to stop the abuses.

"The self-defense forces will become institutionalized, when they are integrated into the Rural Defense Corps," the Interior Department said in a statement. Police and soldiers already largely tolerate, and in some cases even work with, the vigilantes, many of whom are armed with assault rifles that civilians are not allowed to carry.
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Vigilante leaders will have to submit a list of their members to the Defense Department, and the army will apparently oversee the groups, which the government said "will be temporary." They will be allowed to keep their weapons as long as they register them with the army.

The military will give the groups "all the means necessary for communications, operations and movement," according to the agreement.

The vigilante leaders, who include farmers, ranchers and some professionals, gathered Monday to discuss the agreement, but it was not yet clear for them what it would imply. It wasn't known if the army would offer anyone salaries.


Misael Gonzalez, a leader of the self-defense force in the town of Coalcoman, said leaders had accepted the government proposal. But the nuts-and-bolts "are still not well defined," he added. "We won't start working on the mechanisms until tomorrow."

Vigilante leader Hipolito Mora said the agreement also allows those who qualify to join local police forces. "The majority of us want to get into the police ... I never imagined myself dressed as a policeman, but the situation is driving me to put on a uniform."

Latin America has been bruised by experiences with quasi-military forces, with such tolerated or legally recognized groups being blamed for rights abuses in Guatemala and Colombia in the past.

While the cartel may be on its way out, "there shouldn't be abuses by those who come after, there shouldn't be what we would call a witch hunt; there should be reconciliation," said the Rev. Javier Cortes, part of a team of priests in the Roman Catholic diocese of Apatzingan who have publicly denounced abuses by the Knights Templar. :beli

Before dawn on Monday, soldiers and police arrested one of the cartel's top leaders, Dionicio Loya Plancarte, alias "El Tio," or The Uncle. (The Interior Department spells his first name with an "s," but the Attorney General's Office and U.S. authorities spell it with a "c.")

National Public Safety System secretary Monte Rubido said the feared drug lord was arrested without a shot being fired. He said federal forces found Loya Plancarte in Morelia, the capital of Michoacan, "hiding in a closet" and accompanied only by 16-year-old boy. :holeup

The 58-year-old Loya Plancarte had a 30-million peso ($2.25 million) reward on his head from the Mexican government for drug, organized crime and money-laundering charges. He was considered one of the country's three dozen most-wanted drug lords in the late 2000s.


The Knights Templar ruled many parts of Michoacan with an iron fist, demanding extortion payments from businesses, farmers and workers, but the self-defense groups have gained ground against the cartel in recent months. Federal police and army troops were dispatched to bring peace to the troubled region, but the vigilantes have demanded the arrest of the cartel's major leaders before they lay down their guns.

Ramon Contreras, an activist in the vigilante movement from the town of La Ruana, which was the first to rise up against the Knights Templar, said the arrest "means a lot" to the vigilantes, but added that they won't rest until they see all the top bosses arrested.

Contreras voiced a common belief that the man who founded the cartel under the name La Familia Michoacana, Nazario Moreno, alias "El Chayo," is still alive, despite the government's statement in 2010 that he had been killed in a shootout with federal forces.


"He's still alive; there's proof he's still alive," Contreras said.

Loya Plancarte got his nickname, "The Uncle," because he is believed to be the uncle of another top Knights Templar leader, Enrique Plancarte Solis.

Loya Plancarte joined Plancarte Solis and Servando Gomez in forming the Knights Templar after the purported death of Nazario Moreno.

A local journalist from Michoacan recounted watching when Loya Plancarte led a sort of pilgrimage to a shrine erected to Nazario Moreno and had his assistants hand out 500-peso ($37) bills to people who attended.
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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 10:26:33 AM »
Who run Bartertown, tho?
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 10:36:08 AM »
Who run Bartertown, tho?

...you really had to ask?

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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 11:19:08 AM »
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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 12:15:34 PM »
What about El Guapo?
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 12:19:52 PM »
What about El Guapo?

In a way, all of us has an El Guapo to face. For some, shyness might be their El Guapo. For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For us, El Guapo is a big, dangerous man who wants to kill us.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 12:23:08 PM »
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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 02:26:03 PM »
Can't wait for them to take texas back.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 02:30:57 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2014, 02:32:44 PM »
Can't wait for them to take texas back.
Ha. Texas.


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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 02:37:13 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2014, 03:05:23 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

You're forgetting that conservatives need somewhere looming with wages properly reflecting market value that businesses want to move to for manufacturing. At the same time their people need the ability and desire to cross the border and steal our jobs, which has nothing to do with the those market value wages obviously.

Impossibly good double whammy. idk where else you can find that, idk if it's worth losing.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 06:58:12 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

Bro, you know they're more likely to turn their attention northward when it comes to annexation options than south.  :cancry
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 06:59:59 PM »
Anywhooo, I like to glance at this site once in a while for Mexican Drug War news:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/

They've been posting about this nascent "self defence movement" for a while now.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 07:08:26 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

Bro, you know they're more likely to turn their attention northward when it comes to annexation options than south.  :cancry

Ya, tar sands and clean water trump all other reasons :(
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2014, 07:14:16 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

Bro, you know they're more likely to turn their attention northward when it comes to annexation options than south.  :cancry

Ya, tar sands and clean water trump all other reasons :(

That's why Obama hasn't made a decision on Keystone yet.

He's all like "Why the hell would I announce an agreement with the Canadian government when I'm gonna own all that shit in 2 years anyway?"
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Good :sabu
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2014, 02:04:11 PM »
america is the best country

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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2014, 03:54:13 PM »
time to call in the professional
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2014, 03:55:40 PM »
just saw a story the other day about frenchies crying because they cant sustain their dirty shithead lifestyle without the bullshit monies they still take from former colonies

in the coming decades we're gonna be swimming in stinky eurotears brehs :rejoice
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2014, 05:44:38 PM »
William & Kate "leaked" sex tape incoming!  :heh
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2014, 05:48:28 PM »
William & Kate & James Deen brought to you by Vivid. 
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2014, 06:49:46 PM »
just saw a story the other day about frenchies crying because they cant sustain their dirty shithead lifestyle without the bullshit monies they still take from former colonies

in the coming decades we're gonna be swimming in stinky eurotears brehs :rejoice
A couple weeks back I saw that their socialist Kenyan President's approval numbers went up after it came out he was having an affair. From like 20% to 26% or something.

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2014, 11:55:23 PM »
So you're spending a small fraction of your budget to maintain an institution for reasons of symbolism and cultural heritage, even when it's no longer involved in the actual governing of the country anymore.  What's the big deal?  We still have Congress.

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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2014, 01:13:47 PM »
The opposition better be pushing for man called Yingauspicious.
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Well then you come up with one better. Consider this your Bore homework assignment.
Ukraine is game to you?!?

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Re: Ukraine is game to you?!? International Politics Thread
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2014, 04:12:27 PM »
Queen thinks Kate Middleton dresses like a whore, is now going to pick out her outfits for her.

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/kate-middleton-wear-longer-skirts-according-queen-155700870.html
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2014, 08:42:41 AM »
Queen thinks Kate Middleton dresses like a whore, is now going to pick out her outfits for her.

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/kate-middleton-wear-longer-skirts-according-queen-155700870.html

Who wouldn't take fashion advice from this woman


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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2014, 11:06:01 AM »
Ukraine is game to her.
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From last month:  South Sudan talks resume in Addis Ababa nightclub Gaslight

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A shift in the venue for talks aimed at brokering a ceasefire in South Sudan has left some delegates bemused.

The government and rebel teams have moved to the dance floor of a top nightclub in an Addis Ababa hotel.

The Gaslight club was selected after the room in the Sheraton hotel the teams had been using was booked by a Japanese delegation.

Sources close to the talks said some delegates were unhappy with the poor lighting and excess noise.

Talks aimed at securing the ceasefire in the month-long conflict in South Sudan have now resumed in the Ethiopian capital.

But the delegates are now in the basement of the luxury hotel, amid faux gold columns.

Their previous room has been taken over by the Japanese - Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is currently visiting Addis Ababa at the end of his first tour of Africa.

The talks in the nightclub are at least taking place during the day - when the dance floor is not normally in use.


A couple weeks later: South Sudan ceasefire takes effect


Now, given the history of the country, it's likely to fall apart and go to shit at some point in the not-very-distant future, but for now I'm buying in, cause it's just too nice of a story not to believe for a while.

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Thousands gathered in four other cities in solidarity with the Tuzla workers, but also to protest against Bosnia's nearly 40-percent unemployment rate and politicians whom they accuse of being disconnected from citizens' needs.
Wow. Surprised they didn't blow up sooner.

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Re: Ukraine is game to you?!? International Politics Thread
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2014, 12:14:34 PM »
Prop up fascist states engaged in ethnic cleansing brehs
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Re: Ukraine is game to you?!? International Politics Thread
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2014, 01:54:11 PM »
:goty :goty2



Does that Russian Occupy Pedophilia group invite gay men on fake dates with adults, or is it a To Catch A Predator thing where they're trapping gay dudes who are trying to bang under age boys?
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Re: Ukraine is game to you?!? International Politics Thread
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2014, 10:32:07 PM »
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/02/485_151258.html

:rofl :rofl :rofl


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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2014, 11:12:57 PM »
America: A Black sea of rape mur
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« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2014, 12:42:26 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2014, 01:09:41 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2014, 01:27:37 PM »
attempt to start a conversation with a two hour video with no tldr description, brehs
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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2014, 02:13:49 PM »
attempt to start a conversation with a two hour video with no tldr description, brehs

Just sharing a video I found interesting :yeshrug
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« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2014, 11:54:16 AM »
Shit's kicking off in Ukraine again. Apparently there's been deadlines and ultimatums and shit being thrown around. Some protestors dead

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« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2014, 01:03:07 PM »
It's happening.
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« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2014, 01:54:22 PM »
I feel bad for Ukraine. All this unrest and it has no effect on world markets? Is the country that insignificant?
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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2014, 04:06:14 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/swiss-fighters-grounded-during-hijacking-outside-office-hours-182241347.html

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Geneva (AFP) - No Swiss fighter jets were scrambled Monday when an Ethiopian Airlines co-pilot hijacked his own plane and forced it to land in Geneva, because it happened outside business hours, the Swiss airforce said.

When the co-pilot on flight ET-702 from Addis Ababa to Rome locked himself in the cockpit while the pilot went to the bathroom and announced a hijacking, Italian and French fighter jets were scrambled to escort the plane through their respective airspaces.

But although the co-pilot-turned-hijacker quickly announced he wanted to land the plane in Switzerland, where he later said he aimed to seek asylum, Switzerland's fleet of F-18s and F-5 Tigers remained on the ground, Swiss airforce spokesman Laurent Savary told AFP.

This, he explained, was because the Swiss airforce is only available during office hours. These are reported to be from 8am until noon, then 1:30 to 5pm.

 :swisscry

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« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2014, 04:23:34 PM »
Dat 1 and a half hour lunch.  :aah
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« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2014, 05:09:54 PM »
Dat 1 and a half hour lunch.  :aah

Well you can have to remember that their one and a half hour lunch is subsidized by Nazi gold.  If we had Nazi gold we could do that shit too, but all we got were Nazi scientists.
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« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2014, 05:32:24 PM »
Not only did they repulse the last Berkut attack, but they got their hands on at least one of them in the process. Saw him being manhandled through the crowd.
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« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2014, 05:34:23 PM »
Maybe the US should step in here.


LOL, j/k, we still got plenty of brown people to fuck wit.
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« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2014, 05:38:26 PM »
that last image is a fucking amazing photograph
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« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2014, 05:40:37 PM »
Maybe the US should step in here.


LOL, j/k, we still got plenty of brown people to fuck wit.



US ambassador to Ukraine directing traffic :usacry
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« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2014, 06:19:41 PM »
Another BTR (accompanied by a truck this time) gets more than it bargained for

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« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2014, 06:25:24 PM »
20 dead, 500 injured, Turchunov injured.

:shaq2

Putin sending the goons in :heh ?

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Why would they not conceil badges and other identifying marks? Incompetency and hubris are one thing, an extreme close up picture from god knows where is another.

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« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2014, 06:53:28 PM »


Police guarding the Internal Affairs office in Ternopil negotiate with protesters and stand down (skip to the end).
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« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2014, 07:24:54 PM »
while we are doing horrible riot stuff:


 :nsfanyone

The cop is in stable condition and won't loss his leg.
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