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http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-legalized-vigilantes-arrests-knights-templar-drug-cartel-2014-1

MEXICO CITY (AP) Mexico essentially legalized the country's growing "self-defense" groups Monday, while also announcing that security forces had captured one of the four top leaders of the Knights Templar drug cartel, which the vigilante groups have been fighting for the last year. :dead

The government said it had reached an agreement with vigilante leaders to incorporate the armed civilian groups into old and largely forgotten quasi-military units called the Rural Defense Corps. Vigilante groups estimate their numbers at 20,000 men under arms.

The twin announcements may help the administration of President Enrique Pena Nieto find a way out of an embarrassing situation in the western state of Michoacan, where vigilantes began rising up last February against the Knights Templar reign of terror and extortion after police and troops failed to stop the abuses.

"The self-defense forces will become institutionalized, when they are integrated into the Rural Defense Corps," the Interior Department said in a statement. Police and soldiers already largely tolerate, and in some cases even work with, the vigilantes, many of whom are armed with assault rifles that civilians are not allowed to carry.
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Vigilante leaders will have to submit a list of their members to the Defense Department, and the army will apparently oversee the groups, which the government said "will be temporary." They will be allowed to keep their weapons as long as they register them with the army.

The military will give the groups "all the means necessary for communications, operations and movement," according to the agreement.

The vigilante leaders, who include farmers, ranchers and some professionals, gathered Monday to discuss the agreement, but it was not yet clear for them what it would imply. It wasn't known if the army would offer anyone salaries.


Misael Gonzalez, a leader of the self-defense force in the town of Coalcoman, said leaders had accepted the government proposal. But the nuts-and-bolts "are still not well defined," he added. "We won't start working on the mechanisms until tomorrow."

Vigilante leader Hipolito Mora said the agreement also allows those who qualify to join local police forces. "The majority of us want to get into the police ... I never imagined myself dressed as a policeman, but the situation is driving me to put on a uniform."

Latin America has been bruised by experiences with quasi-military forces, with such tolerated or legally recognized groups being blamed for rights abuses in Guatemala and Colombia in the past.

While the cartel may be on its way out, "there shouldn't be abuses by those who come after, there shouldn't be what we would call a witch hunt; there should be reconciliation," said the Rev. Javier Cortes, part of a team of priests in the Roman Catholic diocese of Apatzingan who have publicly denounced abuses by the Knights Templar. :beli

Before dawn on Monday, soldiers and police arrested one of the cartel's top leaders, Dionicio Loya Plancarte, alias "El Tio," or The Uncle. (The Interior Department spells his first name with an "s," but the Attorney General's Office and U.S. authorities spell it with a "c.")

National Public Safety System secretary Monte Rubido said the feared drug lord was arrested without a shot being fired. He said federal forces found Loya Plancarte in Morelia, the capital of Michoacan, "hiding in a closet" and accompanied only by 16-year-old boy. :holeup

The 58-year-old Loya Plancarte had a 30-million peso ($2.25 million) reward on his head from the Mexican government for drug, organized crime and money-laundering charges. He was considered one of the country's three dozen most-wanted drug lords in the late 2000s.


The Knights Templar ruled many parts of Michoacan with an iron fist, demanding extortion payments from businesses, farmers and workers, but the self-defense groups have gained ground against the cartel in recent months. Federal police and army troops were dispatched to bring peace to the troubled region, but the vigilantes have demanded the arrest of the cartel's major leaders before they lay down their guns.

Ramon Contreras, an activist in the vigilante movement from the town of La Ruana, which was the first to rise up against the Knights Templar, said the arrest "means a lot" to the vigilantes, but added that they won't rest until they see all the top bosses arrested.

Contreras voiced a common belief that the man who founded the cartel under the name La Familia Michoacana, Nazario Moreno, alias "El Chayo," is still alive, despite the government's statement in 2010 that he had been killed in a shootout with federal forces.


"He's still alive; there's proof he's still alive," Contreras said.

Loya Plancarte got his nickname, "The Uncle," because he is believed to be the uncle of another top Knights Templar leader, Enrique Plancarte Solis.

Loya Plancarte joined Plancarte Solis and Servando Gomez in forming the Knights Templar after the purported death of Nazario Moreno.

A local journalist from Michoacan recounted watching when Loya Plancarte led a sort of pilgrimage to a shrine erected to Nazario Moreno and had his assistants hand out 500-peso ($37) bills to people who attended.
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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 10:26:33 AM »
Who run Bartertown, tho?
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 10:28:33 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 10:36:08 AM »
Who run Bartertown, tho?

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 11:19:08 AM »
A conservative dream come true.
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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 12:15:34 PM »
What about El Guapo?
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 12:19:52 PM »
What about El Guapo?

In a way, all of us has an El Guapo to face. For some, shyness might be their El Guapo. For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For us, El Guapo is a big, dangerous man who wants to kill us.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 01:00:26 PM »
A conservative dream come true.

See? Without the interference of government, Mexican citizens are finally allowed to self-regulate with maximum levels of freedom. Isn't this what we should all want?

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2014, 01:57:40 PM »
A conservative dream come true.

Not completely, they're still trying to belong in our goddamn country.
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 02:15:43 PM »
A conservative dream come true.

Not completely, they're still trying to belong in our goddamn country.

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Re: Mexico is officially beyond the thunderdome
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2014, 02:26:03 PM »
Can't wait for them to take texas back.
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 02:32:44 PM »
Can't wait for them to take texas back.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 02:37:13 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote. 
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2014, 03:00:33 PM »
I don't speak turrist I speak 'Murican!

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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2014, 03:05:23 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

You're forgetting that conservatives need somewhere looming with wages properly reflecting market value that businesses want to move to for manufacturing. At the same time their people need the ability and desire to cross the border and steal our jobs, which has nothing to do with the those market value wages obviously.

Impossibly good double whammy. idk where else you can find that, idk if it's worth losing.

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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2014, 06:58:12 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

Bro, you know they're more likely to turn their attention northward when it comes to annexation options than south.  :cancry
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2014, 06:59:59 PM »
Anywhooo, I like to glance at this site once in a while for Mexican Drug War news:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/

They've been posting about this nascent "self defence movement" for a while now.
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2014, 07:08:26 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

Bro, you know they're more likely to turn their attention northward when it comes to annexation options than south.  :cancry

Ya, tar sands and clean water trump all other reasons :(
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2014, 07:14:05 PM »
Anywhooo, I like to glance at this site once in a while for Mexican Drug War news:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/

They've been posting about this nascent "self defence movement" for a while now.

You cant blame them. These cartels are scum and their government is a borderline failed state.

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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2014, 07:14:16 PM »
The opposite sounds more likely.  I'm sure Republicans would be up for a new territory annexation.  Just say 1) you are liberating these people from the ruling cartels, 2) It would create a buffer zone for drug/violence/immigration control, 3) It would become a territory so browns won't get to vote.

Bro, you know they're more likely to turn their attention northward when it comes to annexation options than south.  :cancry

Ya, tar sands and clean water trump all other reasons :(

That's why Obama hasn't made a decision on Keystone yet.

He's all like "Why the hell would I announce an agreement with the Canadian government when I'm gonna own all that shit in 2 years anyway?"
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2014, 12:40:19 PM »
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/28/22479561-uks-queen-elizabeth-down-to-last-16-million-in-reserves-after-royal-overspend?lite

By Alexander Smith, NBC News contributor

LONDON --  Britain's Queen Elizabeth has just 1 million ($1.6 million) left in financial reserves after the royal household overspent on its budget last year, according to a report by British lawmakers released Tuesday. :heh

The royal household had to dip into its reserves after overspending 2.3 million ($3.8 million) on the 31 million ($51.4 million) it was given by the taxpayer in 2012-13.

The report by the Public Accounts Committee said the amount was "historically low" and that it was "concerned that the household has reduced its balances to such an extent that it could be unable to cover its expenditure on any unforeseen events.":beli


This paltry figure of 1 million is in contrast to 2001 when the royal household had 35 million ($58 million) in its reserves. The royals spend the money on costs such as staff wages, maintaining their palaces and travel.

A restructuring in 2012 of the way the royals receive public money allowed the royal family's finances to come under scrutiny from lawmakers for the first time.

"The household needs to get better at planning and managing its budgets for the longer term -- and the Treasury should be more actively involved in reviewing what the household is doing," said Margaret Hodge, the member of parliament who chairs the Public Accounts Committee.

The report also criticized the royals' "complacency" in allowing some 39 percent of royal buildings and land to slip into a state of disrepair. It said the 60-year-old heating system in Buckingham Palace alone will cost between 500,000 and 1 million to replace.

"The Household must get a much firmer grip on how it plans to address its maintenance backlog," Hodge said.

A Buckingham Palace spokesperson described maintaining  the royal family's estate, such as the recent renewal of a roof over at Windsor Castle and the removal of asbestos from Buckingham Palace, as a "priority."

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2014, 12:43:38 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2014, 01:28:12 PM »
Good :sabu
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2014, 02:03:34 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2014, 02:04:07 PM »
Downton Abbey for real!

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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2014, 02:04:11 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2014, 03:23:37 PM »
I wish there were more brits here (:heh) instead of all the euros from the fyderriduushheiik countries so i could troll this more :(

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2014, 03:54:13 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2014, 03:55:40 PM »
just saw a story the other day about frenchies crying because they cant sustain their dirty shithead lifestyle without the bullshit monies they still take from former colonies

in the coming decades we're gonna be swimming in stinky eurotears brehs :rejoice
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2014, 05:44:38 PM »
William & Kate "leaked" sex tape incoming!  :heh
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2014, 05:48:28 PM »
William & Kate & James Deen brought to you by Vivid. 
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2014, 06:49:46 PM »
just saw a story the other day about frenchies crying because they cant sustain their dirty shithead lifestyle without the bullshit monies they still take from former colonies

in the coming decades we're gonna be swimming in stinky eurotears brehs :rejoice
A couple weeks back I saw that their socialist Kenyan President's approval numbers went up after it came out he was having an affair. From like 20% to 26% or something.
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2014, 11:55:23 PM »
So you're spending a small fraction of your budget to maintain an institution for reasons of symbolism and cultural heritage, even when it's no longer involved in the actual governing of the country anymore.  What's the big deal?  We still have Congress.

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« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2014, 09:02:14 AM »
http://www.france24.com/en/20140202-thai-opposition-protests-election-yingluck-shinawatra/

Thai anti-government protesters planned to forge ahead on Monday with efforts to topple Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, a day after a disrupted election that is unlikely to settle the country's long-running political conflict.

The demonstrators blocked balloting in a fifth of the country's constituencies and say Yingluck must resign and make way for an appointed "people's council" to overhaul a political system they say has been taken hostage by her billionaire brother and former premier, Thaksin Shinawatra.

Sunday's election, which the main opposition party boycotted, is almost certain to return Yingluck to power and with voting passing off peacefully across the north and northeast, Yingluck's supporters will no doubt claim a legitimate mandate.

But the vote is unlikely to change the dysfunctional status quo in a country popular among tourists and investors yet blighted by eight years of polarisation and turmoil, pitting the Bangkok-based middle class and royalist establishment against the mostly poor, rural supporters of the Shinawatras.

Apart from a few scuffles, the election was peaceful, with no repeat of the chaos seen the previous day, when supporters and opponents of Yingluck clashed in north Bangkok, with seven wounded by gunshots or explosions.


Voting was disrupted in 18 percent of constituencies, 69 out of 375, nationwide, the Election Commission said, affecting 18 of 77 provinces. Neither the result nor the turnout were announced.

The disruptions mean it could be weeks before parliamentary seats are filled, so Yingluck will remain a caretaker with no policy authority.

Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban told a crowd of supporters he would lead a rally to a central Bangkok park on Monday. He vowed to press on with his bid, launched in November, to rid politics of the influence of the Shinawatra family.

But the vote should offer Yingluck some cheer.

"She's playing for time to cause divisions in the opposition, which are in fact occurring : some in the democratic parties are regretting the boycott of the election, the business community is worried and time is on her side," David Camroux, South-East Asia expert at Sciences-Po, told FRANCE 24.

"Having gone through more than two months of protests, the election will strengthen Yingluck's position, but her troubles are not over yet," said Kan Yuanyong, director of the Siam Intelligence Unit think-tank.

"We'll see a continuation of the conflict, the standoff remains and the likelihood of more violence could increase."

The Election Commission said it expected legal challenges to be lodged as early as Monday to try to invalidate the poll and attack the legitimacy of the government


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Yingluck said the election was a "positive signal", but a lasting solution was needed.

"This election is part of the democratic process," she told reporters. "I hope all sides can help solve each of the country's problems."

The protesters say former telecoms tycoon Thaksin has subverted a fragile democracy with money politics and populism, doling out subsidies, cheap loans and healthcare to woo the poor and guarantee victory for his parties in every election since 2001.

Thaksin's critics also accuse him of disrespecting the monarchy, which he denies
. :comeon

The anti-Shinawatra demonstrators enjoy broad support from southerners and Bangkok's middle class and are tacitly backed by a royalist oligarchy that sees Thaksin as a corrupt crony capitalist and resents the rapid rise of his political order.

Thaksin has lived abroad since 2008 to avoid a jail term for a graft conviction he says was politically motivated. Critics say Yingluck is merely a stand-in for him.

Thaksin's supporters accuse the military and the establishment, including the judiciary, of colluding over the years to oust his governments. The military, which has staged numerous coups since Thailand became a constitutional monarchy in 1932, overthrew Thaksin in 2006 but has stayed aloof this time.

With several cases against Yingluck and her party taken up by the courts, Thaksin's supporters fear judges might intervene again and they have threatened to stage their own protests if the government is ousted, by the courts or the military.


Sunday's election was in stark contrast to three years ago, when Yingluck quit her job as a company executive and helped her Puea Thai Party win an election in a landslide, running on the campaign slogan "Thaksin thinks, Puea Thai acts"
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« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2014, 01:13:47 PM »
The opposition better be pushing for man called Yingauspicious.
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« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2014, 01:47:37 PM »
Well then you come up with one better. Consider this your Bore homework assignment.

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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2014, 02:17:56 PM »
Well then you come up with one better. Consider this your Bore homework assignment.
Ukraine is game to you?!?
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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2014, 04:12:27 PM »
Queen thinks Kate Middleton dresses like a whore, is now going to pick out her outfits for her.

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/kate-middleton-wear-longer-skirts-according-queen-155700870.html
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« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2014, 01:06:36 PM »
:goty :goty2


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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2014, 08:42:41 AM »
Queen thinks Kate Middleton dresses like a whore, is now going to pick out her outfits for her.

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/kate-middleton-wear-longer-skirts-according-queen-155700870.html

Who wouldn't take fashion advice from this woman


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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2014, 11:06:01 AM »
Ukraine is game to her.
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« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2014, 01:07:04 PM »
From last month:  South Sudan talks resume in Addis Ababa nightclub Gaslight

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A shift in the venue for talks aimed at brokering a ceasefire in South Sudan has left some delegates bemused.

The government and rebel teams have moved to the dance floor of a top nightclub in an Addis Ababa hotel.

The Gaslight club was selected after the room in the Sheraton hotel the teams had been using was booked by a Japanese delegation.

Sources close to the talks said some delegates were unhappy with the poor lighting and excess noise.

Talks aimed at securing the ceasefire in the month-long conflict in South Sudan have now resumed in the Ethiopian capital.

But the delegates are now in the basement of the luxury hotel, amid faux gold columns.

Their previous room has been taken over by the Japanese - Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is currently visiting Addis Ababa at the end of his first tour of Africa.

The talks in the nightclub are at least taking place during the day - when the dance floor is not normally in use.


A couple weeks later: South Sudan ceasefire takes effect


Now, given the history of the country, it's likely to fall apart and go to shit at some point in the not-very-distant future, but for now I'm buying in, cause it's just too nice of a story not to believe for a while.

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Thousands gathered in four other cities in solidarity with the Tuzla workers, but also to protest against Bosnia's nearly 40-percent unemployment rate and politicians whom they accuse of being disconnected from citizens' needs.
Wow. Surprised they didn't blow up sooner.


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« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2014, 12:14:34 PM »
Prop up fascist states engaged in ethnic cleansing brehs
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« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2014, 01:54:11 PM »
:goty :goty2



Does that Russian Occupy Pedophilia group invite gay men on fake dates with adults, or is it a To Catch A Predator thing where they're trapping gay dudes who are trying to bang under age boys?
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« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2014, 02:42:28 PM »
pretty sure theyre the former brah

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« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2014, 10:32:07 PM »
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/02/485_151258.html

:rofl :rofl :rofl


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« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2014, 11:12:57 PM »
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« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2014, 12:42:26 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2014, 01:09:41 PM »
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