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« on: November 18, 2019, 10:52:49 PM »







https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-chick-fil-a-popular.155785/
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I’m tired of reading this shit in Era. If you eat there, you’re a piece of trash, no exceptions.
If they aren't going to ban them outright, people who eat at chik fil a should get a tag so the actual good people here can just put the trash people on auto ignore.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/since-its-november-annual-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.154314/#post-26664599
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The name "Black Friday" was created by the Philadelphia Police:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-friday-history-why-is-it-called-black-friday_l_5d951322e4b02911e1154386
We get it, you’re woke


https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-moderation-staff-is-fucking-up-beyond-belief-on-lgbt-issues.153951/page-12#post-26609093
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I think the site as a whole needs an actual, experienced community director as site staff. While moderators here are human and volunteers, the history of moderation and enforcement of the site's rules has been spotty at best and looked like favoritism at it's worst, and certain topics, such as this one, show deeprooted problems that really need to be solved over the long term and prevented in the future. An actual overarching plan and a proper set of support tools for the staff implemented by a community director would go a long way to destressing the moderation team, providing clear and consistent forum policy and preventing these grey areas (which really aren't grey at all).

I volunteered my time in the past (proper community building, marketing, PR, all areas of expertise this site is currently lacking) and got promptly ignored (which is 100% okay!) but I still believe to this day that this place needs experienced guidance on issues such as this, and "winging it" is not, and has not, been working. I really hope a thread like this leads to an open discussion about what needs to change and an actual proper plan on how to get there.

It is now 2019, almost 2020. Forums and communities as a whole can not be run in the modern area in a style of how they were run 5-10 years ago. Times have changed a lot, and they are going to keep changing. The friction does not have to be there, and it is a fixable problem in the long term. I hope the site realizes that and gets the proper person in place to work towards that betterment of everything here because this place still has so much untapped potential for good.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/page-24#post-26605181
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I'm throwing this suggestion out here in addition to other suggestions and this is more of my governmental self on this, how about we establish a moderation watchdog similar to the Office of Inspector General or the Office of Special Counsel where the admin and staff, in unanimous agreement, or regular users who wishes to nominate a user, nominates an independent user as an inspector general to which to be advise and consent to every user on the forum or at least have users sign up for it. Having a simple majority or 60% say aye to confirm the user to a one year term which can be renewed up to a limit of 3 years. This user would be charged to lead with examining the actions of the moderators as a general auditor of their operations to ensure they are operating in compliance with generally established policies of the website, to audit the effectiveness of security procedures, or to discover the possibility of misconduct for the staff and admins. If there is misconduct conducted by a admin or moderator reported by a user, the IG will investigate this report and would determine if that moderator did operate in misconduct. If that moderator is found to operate in misconduct, the IG will report to the admin to determine disciplinary actions such as a ban or having their moderation powers revoked.

Another suggestion would be to establish an office similar to the Department of Justice's Office of Special Counsel where only regular users can nominate an independent user as an independent counsel to advise and consent to the same terms and rules except the powers of this counsel to ban and revoking a moderator without having to go to the admin.

Again this is simply a suggestion, if anyone needs to point out any flaws or loopholes, I'm right here.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/page-10
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I can't believe he had the nerve to say this when he locked the last thread.
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Personally, the idea that someone who was not supposed to have access to our private conversations had access makes me uncomfortable, and that has nothing to do with fear of being "outed" as a secret bigot.

Narrator: It had everything to do with the fear of being outed as a secret acephobe.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2020, 05:01:44 PM by pork »
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It much be so hard to go about your daily lives without the ability to be ace/transphobic in private. Poor people
lol at acephobia being the thing that finally makes them realize that ResetERA.com is a hate site where minorities leave in droves every second

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We just got the cybered u guys.

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smh bork really just locked a thread because yuka posting wasn't allowed :picard

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pork is basically the Royalan of The Bire

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RIGHT OF STAFF TO SAY HATEFUL THINGS IN PRIVATE

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I just wish *sigh* I felt safer, ya know?  *stares at shoes*

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This is going to end with kektat being made owner of Ree isn't it?

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how does it feel :bolo
reported for making me feel unsafe

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Everyone involved in protecting Royalan's acephobia needs to step down.

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Cindi, if you’re reading this, now is the time to load up a Reset account (if you have one), jump in that thread, and demand that Cerium step down and hand the forum over to Ket. If someone does it they’ll start parroting something similar.
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This is going to end with kektat being made owner of Ree isn't it?
Its the only way.

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Its important to continue to point out that this community was founded in to be more open on things like the processes. You have an entire community who is now in fear and you choose to say shut up and get back to trans issues. If you arent going to listen to an entire community that what is the point of this site?
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 :lol at all the drama at reset.

start a new community  based on open moderation and being welcoming to minorities and the first time you get tested do neither

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at least we got some fucking discords out of it
that post legit gave me a sensible chuckle

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hmmm hiding now huh

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:lol at all the drama at reset.

start a new community  based on open moderation and being welcoming to minorities and the first time you get tested do neither

Meanwhile, Metacouncil is still going strong. :smug
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What are these idiots "in fear" of? Does ERA have a hitman from the dark web on speed dial, ready to take out the trans community over there? Jesus Christ the hyperbole.

I'm stunned they perma'd Ket. Now do the same to the ones bitching and the site becomes 0.00000000001% more tolerable.

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And it actually is International Transgender Day of Remembrance now.

Yeah... On a day about remembering the fallen victims of transphobic we are having to fight for transparency due to a pillar of our community being shadily banned for speaking up in a thread about the administration's handling of transphobic for the last several months.

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What are these idiots "in fear" of? Does ERA have a hitman from the dark web on speed dial, ready to take out the trans community over there? Jesus Christ the hyperbole.

Yeah, his name is Royalan

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wait, there’s going to have to be a THE STATEMENT from ResetEra now, right? This is worthy of one, I think.
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Has incelsheet weighed in yet?

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metacouncil also doesnt have mods shutting down threads over tiddy :hmph

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I love the community here but I'm honestly fucking done if there is no response
Don't worry, there will be a response, you won't like it, but there will be a response.

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Has incelsheet weighed in yet?

gotaa wait til monday night raw is over

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/page-10
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I’ve been negative about Era for a long time now, but god is this a new fucking low
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This is a good time to mention that Xaszatm, an ace person, got his thread on trans issues locked by acephobe Royalan.
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I hoped to start posting more, but frankly I don't really feel like it's worth it now, in both safety and personal interest.
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What are these idiots "in fear" of? Does ERA have a hitman from the dark web on speed dial, ready to take out the trans community over there? Jesus Christ the hyperbole.



Yeah, his name is Royalan

Ah yes, that damn acephobe. Stay safe, folx.

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I'm seriously considering stepping down as Mod Admiral, I didn't know my staff were all violent bigots afraid to be open with their forum membership.

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Does era want to be known for gay bashing or acephobia?

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I honestly didn't think things couldn't get worse, but then they did. :/

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/page-10
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Unless there's a quick reversal of course and accountability to be had, I think I'm done with this forum, at this point. The administration has demonstrated no willingness beyond empty lip service to improve... any... aspect. These problems have been top-down since the forum's launch.

Royalan, perhaps you should take notes: as gay people we have to stand in solidarity with all members of the umbrella, or else it doesn't function. Dismissing or measuring against others' oppression makes it clear you're in the repugnant "fuck you, got mine" camp of gay man-children clutching at their tenuous privilege.
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I'll be shocked if this thread isn't locked by tomorrow with no improvement for anything. They can't fix this for the same reason the problem was caused in the first place. They can't see beyond themselves.  Any perceived slight against them gets far more precedence than anything else.

I don't think there's active transphobia or acephobia, but it's still bigotry if you're called out for an hurtful action on good faith and your response is the biggest "fuck you" you can exercise.  Putting your own ego above any concern of others is were a lot of bigotry comes from, and I believe that's what's happening here.

Who is Royalan? Can't keep up with this shit anymore.
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Nobody even knew Royalan's real name, so they couldn't confirm he was the acephobic one.

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If they were smart they should have outed royalan and just let him register under an alias and promote him as a new mod when no one is looking  :brain :doge

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/page-10
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Unless there's a quick reversal of course and accountability to be had, I think I'm done with this forum, at this point. The administration has demonstrated no willingness beyond empty lip service to improve... any... aspect. These problems have been top-down since the forum's launch.

Royalan, perhaps you should take notes: as gay people we have to stand in solidarity with all members of the umbrella, or else it doesn't function. Dismissing or measuring against others' oppression makes it clear you're in the repugnant "fuck you, got mine" camp of gay man-children clutching at their tenuous privilege.
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I'll be shocked if this thread isn't locked by tomorrow with no improvement for anything. They can't fix this for the same reason the problem was caused in the first place. They can't see beyond themselves.  Any perceived slight against them gets far more precedence than anything else.

I don't think there's active transphobia or acephobia, but it's still bigotry if you're called out for an hurtful action on good faith and your response is the biggest "fuck you" you can exercise.  Putting your own ego above any concern of others is were a lot of bigotry comes from, and I believe that's what's happening here.

Who is Royalan? Can't keep up with this shit anymore.

Apparently a gay dude that won't stand for asexuals because the suffering isn't on par with his. Eg a bitch ass cunt.

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lol Kyuuji made sabrina's post a threadmark

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Yup. This is Contrapoints all over again.

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If they were smart they should have outed royalan and just let him register under an alias and promote him as a new mod when no one is looking  :brain :doge

Or "suddenly realize" it was a bad faith troll account with a history of histories of transphobias, gee golly good thing that special ops dog got him.

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To make matters more wild, the content and moderator Ketkat was referencing was not Royalan.

I'd rather not get my account banned but that's the first time I or Ketkat have seen that post but I think that's important information to dessect which is why I'm putting myself on the line.
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« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2019, 11:18:02 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/page-10
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Everyone involved in protecting Royalan's acephobia needs to step down.

CERIUM RETIRE BITCH
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Re: Other Forums |OT| Mission Impossible 2: 2 Loose 2 Jiggly
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2019, 11:18:06 PM »
ATTENTION RETURN TO POSTING ABOUT TRANS AWARENESS WEEK

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Re: Other Forums |OT| Mission Impossible 2: 2 Loose 2 Jiggly
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2019, 11:19:43 PM »
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Jesus 😕

This place sucks.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| Mission Impossible 2: 2 Loose 2 Jiggly
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2019, 11:20:08 PM »
The mods are so tired right now.... cause its late and shit.

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To make matters more wild, the content and moderator Ketkat was referencing was not Royalan.

I'd rather not get my account banned but that's the first time I or Ketkat have seen that post but I think that's important information to dessect which is why I'm putting myself on the line.
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 How many minutes until the mass account suicides? 

sure would be a shame if everyone starting posting trans porn. trans awareness :drool

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« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2019, 11:20:55 PM »
why is robin scared of getting banned  :lol

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« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2019, 11:21:04 PM »
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Like Chick-Fil-A, ERA staff has lost all benefit of doubt for me.
:yikes

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« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2019, 11:21:23 PM »
why is robin scared of getting banned  :lol
that's what they're all afraid of, because they know who runs bordertown

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« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2019, 11:21:51 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-trans-awareness-week-nov-13th-19th.153146/page-10
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I can't believe he had the nerve to say this when he locked the last thread.
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Personally, the idea that someone who was not supposed to have access to our private conversations had access makes me uncomfortable, and that has nothing to do with fear of being "outed" as a secret bigot.

Narrator: It had everything to do with the fear of being outed as a secret acephobe.
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Posting in a historic thread

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Nepenthe should put an asexual flag behind her avatar, it's the least she could do.

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Makes all those statements staff promised the new users when we migrated 2 years ago even more insulting.
:rofl

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With staff like this, it's no wonder the forum cultivated such a toxic community.

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This is the last thing I am going to post about this, if I get banned oh well though I would prefer not to, from now on I will stick to posting about games and comics if that.

This was the one place I felt safe to talk about who I am. I am still in the closet IRL. Sometimes I feel as if that makes people dismiss/not take me seriously/think I am a liar.

I do not feel safe. I am not in a position (I am disabled and cannot and will not ever be able to legally drive) to just burn all bridges and move somewhere this is accepted though most nights being able to is the story I tell myself and fantasize while falling asleep.

Though I knew my identity would never fly with most of my extended family I learned a very harsh lesson at 17. My stepfather snuck into my room without me realizing and found me in my previously safe space wearing a dress and makeup. He beat me unconscious. I woke up to him having called the cops and while it’s not legal as I was a minor in my mothers care they escorted me off the property while telling my stepfather “it’s their pleasure to help him get rid of this sick f**, if I had my way we could just shoot them”.

That fucked me up for years, and while my mother is no longer with him (and while I have never told her things she has said and how she acts about trans causes makes me believe she knows and will do anything to both have me forgive her, and more importantly forgive herself) it’s still a bone of contention between us and I know my brother who is like my twin even though we are seperate by a couple years still has resentments towards her about it.

I will NEVER let any of my extended family know.

The saddest part is I have accepted who I was at about age 5 or 6 and my issue has never been self acceptance but safety. Flash Forward to now and I was (mostly through hope and support provided by the members of ERA’s trans community) ready. Was going to tell my immediate, a friend or two, and then disappear to everyone else while beginning transition. And then trump not only got elected and has been pushing more and more anti trans regulation including trying to make it legal for the medical profession and government to discriminate specifically against trans people and keep us from being a protected class.

I am disabled. I have a blood mutation that is aggressive and has already almost killed me a dozen times and probably it or related complications will still probably be the death of me, but with care I should still make to where though that kills me a dozen things could have. I also due to it mixed with my experience and education, and prior work history combined with what I am prepared and able to do for work I am unemployable and on government disability with a fixed income, and reliant on government provides healthcare to make sure it doesn’t kill me, I average multiple hospital visits a year and multiweek stays 2 or 3 times every two or three years all because of how at risk my health is.

So since I rely on the good faith of the same people who are trying to make it so both government and medical professions can discriminate against and refuse me service, being the same people who have to approve the benefits that literally keep me alive and able to eat and have a roof over my head, is it all that surprising I scurried right back I to the closet? Being in my 40’s ain’t have lost hope for me, but have doubled down in my efforts to support the cause, in real life with volunteering and what little money I can, things with real effect beyond talking on the internet because I hope I can help so we reach a point where no little girl or boy has to accept being a boy or girl even though they are not for their own safety or other reasons. I want a world where mine is the last generation that has to face that sort of thing and it becomes normal for trans kids to identify to the world and for the world to eagerly and normally help those children facilitate fixing things so they can live normally as who they are.

Unfortunately we are not there and IRL I feel like I am in more danger than ever. Era was my refuge,the one place I felt free, I thought I could be honest, and the help of others could not only help my Dream for others but also help me see a light at the end of my own tunnel.

That dream is dead and I feel inmore danger than ever and now I have no outlet
, I mean in this thread alone you have one person with a history being offensive and when that’s pointed out doubling down while still being offensive and a known shitposter with a history of shitposting not really being offensive but definitely sticking there nose in to make drive by observations unneeded with not even a warning or a “hey back off” while we all get the “despiser your animosity we have been nice but that ends now threats” in a trans awareness week thread discussing the horrible treatment the trans community here faces and from the looks of it lots of that community isn’t going to be here any longer ( and I am sure that makes more than a small minority happy, maybe we will stop being offended and lighten up, just because we are the most discriminated against and in the most physical danger, especially are sisters that are black and brown we should still be nice and defer to the majority about what should be an issue or considered offensive right? We sure are an uplift bunch...) so I don’t feel safe at all here anymore and if I am not banned and do post here it will after this post never be about this issue or in one of these threads again. Not only do I have to worry about all the enemy eyes on this site and if they were to ever decide to focus on me, but to worry about that on a board that has shown time and time again that except for a few (and there are posters, and even with this a couple mods and staff-not a monolith-that I truly believe have our back) most at best tolerate us/are “allies” as long as it doesn’t require any actual backbone all the way to people (not going to mention names but if I did their are receipts, a certain “physician” handled poster comes to mind) who straight up come into trans threads to concern troll and spread TERF talking points without moderation, if I have to read one more time the “but what about actual born real woman’s concerns, their opinion should matter most” in a trans athlete thread my fist would go through a monitor. But hey not going to participate in any of that anymore if I am here, back in the closet here too seems the safest bet ( I also quite remember before before settling on this avatar, which I picked as closest to my physicality/looks if I were to transition, and the fact my chosen name is jessi, I had a Walton Goggins avatar from VP and in a trans thread someone (not trans) attacked me and said I was either faking or just looking to be offended because no way I could be trans or care about the issue because I had that avatar and I should hate Walton for his role in SOA or something, and of course that was okay for that poster to do, no side eye from anyone but me) and yes I am over sharing but to begin it’s the last time I share at all, second I want to get across why safety matters to me and how and why I feel the equivalent of being backstabbed and losing the only friend I had for the one issue in my life that matters most.


But some people can now feel safe sharing their mundane life details and totally not anything offensive in the private discord for a board that was supposedly founded on the notion of transparency and not repeating the mistakes of NeoGaf.


I am glad someone feels safe cause I don’t, but I guess that makes it all gravy, the people that matter feel safe while we all feel we have to leave or muzzle ourselves or possibly as in my case right now get banned.


I guess it all evens out😞
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But with this and the whole Etika situation I can't help but feel uncomfortable here.
ixnay on the etikay

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Bork, you lazy asshole: Take my content (Twitter posts), slap an *autistic screeching* logo on it and put it in the OP. TWICE.

I demand Rah's dick being in the OP just so he's here with us in spirit.

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Lmfao

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ALL MODS ARE BASTARDS, INCLUDING EX MODS LIKE SHOSTA

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The same ones they want to constantly "sort this" are cops now. Next up, Nazi's.