Pro Wrasslin' Thread: I don't know what I just saw

[bork]

Nashville on July 17 was the site of a recent story when people from both WWE and GFW ended up at the same bar at night. GFW had meetings in Nashville, whereas WWE held Raw in the city.

The story involves Karen Jarrett and Braun Strowman with the report indicating that Karen approached Strowman for an autograph for her son, who is apparently a fan of Braun's. Strowman reportedly had no idea who Karen was and depending on what version you want to believe, either was rude to Karen or swore at her.

Karen didn't take to it kindly and "immediately cut a major loud promo" on Braun for blowing her off and during her tirade indicated that she would go and tell her son's father about this incident. Her ex-husband and son's father is none other than Kurt Angle.

When Strowman heard this, he was said to immediately change his tune and agreed to not only sign the autograph, but he was said to have "begged" Karen not to tell Kurt or anyone else. He also repeatedly apologized but Karen said she would still be telling Kurt about this so Strowman then reportedly said he'd get on his knees and beg.

As the story goes, Strowman did eventually get on his knees and begged her not to tell anyone in front of a lot of WWE wrestlers. Karen then said that even if Kurt was not the father of her son, he should not act like that to a mother who was simply asking for an autograph for her son and Strowman agreed and once again apologized.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

[seagrams hotsauce]

I don't dislike the idea but can't imagine that would go over well with any potential demotees, especially if they're going back to NXT sized paychecks too

[FunSlower]

You tell me if the Ascension would benefit by going back to NXT

I say yes

(so would Sami)

[seagrams hotsauce]

Doesn't NXT pay significantly worse than the main roster?

[seagrams hotsauce]

Holy shit, is that rumored/gonna happen? that would be fucking awesome

[FunSlower]

Dump Ziggler.

[FunSlower]

What an awful angle on that whiff. Might have been the best they had, too.

[fistfulofmetal]

It really bums me out that Elias Samson's gimmick is a wandering singer/songwriter and the dude doing it sucks at both of those things. It sucks, but not in the heel way.

[fistfulofmetal]

I think it's a bad gimmick. It sucks in the wrong way and doesn't endear him as a heel. It's just boring. He doesn't have the flair to pull off the gimmick.

He's basically doing Hollywood Rock Concert thing except it's bad.

[FunSlower]

Really surprised Elias is taking off in any form, thought he'd be DOA

Then again, Vince is the Hitmaker, I'm just a pleb.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm mostly surprised Nakamura went over cleanly and is getting a title shot. Then again, they've already established a feud with him and Corbin, who has the MitB case, and teased a match with AJ, which I wanna see more than Cena-Nakamura. Have that shit at WM.

[fistfulofmetal]

It's hard to say who botched what on that move. I don't know enough about the physics about the reverse exploder suplex to know who's doing the brunt of the work but it looks like Cena needs to jump and pivot his body to make it work? And it doesn't look like he did?

[TVC15]

I think we would've heard by now if Cena was seriously injured, right? Maybe it's because I haven't watched this stuff since the 90s, but I don't hate the guy in WWE, and everything I've seen about the real guy seems to paint a good picture about him.

[nachobro]

Nak/Jinder should be an interesting match, but I hope they get some practice in beforehand.

That drop definitely looks like it should have hurt, but yeah Cena is made of steel. Also that post-SD bit might be a setup for Cena/Corbin? I'd be down to watch that for sure.

[bork]

Also that post-SD bit might be a setup for Cena/Corbin? I'd be down to watch that for sure.

Seems like it would have to be those two, unless Cena heads over to RAW to set up a Summerslam match instead.  If that happens, I wonder what Corbin will do, since the WWE doesn't want him cashing in until Jinder is out of the title picture.

[bork]

If Nakamura wins...yeah, could happen.

Looks like Cena is moving to Raw after SummerSlam, but will then leave the WWE again to go film that Transformers Bumblebee spin-off movie.

[Trent Dole]

I was randomly thinking about Cesaro after seeing people STILL acting like he's the most held back talent ever and would be such a huge star back on the indies and in Japan. He was on the indies and worked in Japan. He wasn't pushed as a huge star then, either. In fact, the biggest push of his pre-WWE career came as...part of a tag team where he took on the personality and gimmick of his more established tag partner. PWG put the title on him before they really blew up, but no one else did.

If he's such an incredible talent and Vince just doesn't know how to book him, why is it that every other promoter in the world booked him the same way?

[bork]

Cesaro is number one one on my list of "wrestlers who desperately need a new entrance theme."  Bring back the James Bond-esque theme they stole from Dean Malenko...sans the rap. 

[FunSlower]

Cesaro is bland as hell. I never saw why he should ever get pushed. When your most popular move is swinging people around you're nothing but a novelty.

Since he's been wearing a skirt lately all I can think of is an old Headbanger Mosh

[TVC15]

Cesaro is bland as hell. I never saw why he should ever get pushed. When your most popular move is swinging people around you're nothing but a novelty.

I don't even think the dude is bad, but that swinging thing is likely the dumbest move in WWE. Worse than even the superman punch.

[bork]

Cesaro is bland as hell. I never saw why he should ever get pushed. When your most popular move is swinging people around you're nothing but a novelty.

I don't even think the dude is bad, but that swinging thing is likely the dumbest move in WWE. Worse than even the superman punch.

Eh, the crowd likes it though.

[FunSlower]

I like the swing, it's really all he's got in-ring that gives him personality aside from his really bad-weird uppercunts.

[FunSlower]

You know how people say Vince should let him be himself and he'd get so over. Remember when he was himself and the gimmick/character he came up for himself was Swiss banker with terribly tacky suits who says HEY a lot?

Whenever they let him be himself he's proven he's missing SOMETHING. It's funny because remember that Stone Cold Vince podcast? He said everything. Guy has it all except he's missing something. He can't say what it is, or they'd work on it, but he's missing SOMETHING.

Vince was right. The Hitmaker speaks.

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[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/natalieevamarie/status/893502453332664320

She will be missed :'(

[Momo]

when? what? howwww??? lmao

[FunSlower]

Big Dave, everything is perfect

[nachobro]

After 205 Live there was a long commercial for a Batista collection on the Network but I got hyped for a second cause I thought it was WWE announcing his return :'(

Also goddamn those Canadians love the cruiserweights. They popped more for 205 Live than literally any other USA crowd

[archie4208]

Lads I know it's a given, but Omega/Okada 3 was really fucking good.  Other matches from G1 I'd suggest would be Ibushi/Naito, Ishii/Ibushi, Omega/Elgin, and Okada/Suzuki.

[archie4208]

Finals were excellent, but probably not the best match of the tournament. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

There was a sick top rope powerbomb counter into a frankensteiner counter that made me gasp

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Also, this happened

[archie4208]

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/897077374260436994

Hope he pulls through. 

[FunSlower]

It was "not a big deal" the other day, but it was ICU.

Now it's about prayers? Oy vey. Not a good thing.

[nachobro]

Oh no, hope he pulls through

[archie4208]

http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/20340087/wwe-hall-famer-ric-flair-medically-induced-coma
http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/ric-flair-medically-induced-coma-set-undergo-procedure-240961

Make it you son of a bitch. 

[Trent Dole]

Honestly it's nuts Flair's lasted as long as he has. I'd prepare for sads.

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/LegacyTalentCEO/status/897230443359215617

well at least he made it through the surgery

[fistfulofmetal]

Going to SummerSlam for free 

[Trent Dole]

Going to SummerSlam for free 

That's a fair price for a modern day wwe ppv. Nah this is one of the big four so it should be a good time.

[bork]

Baron Corbin just ran out into the Jinder/Cena main event and cashed in...and lost in seconds.  Cena saved Jinder.

[nachobro]

That was fantastic holy shit! Jinder will never be hindered

[nachobro]

WTF 

spoilers, obviously. this is still hilarious the next day

https://streamable.com/myvur

[Human Snorenado]

Looks like they're really gonna have Jinder retain through at least the India tour in September, I guess.

[FunSlower]

Happy with the G1 winner though, Stro?

[bork]

[nachobro]

I thought it was a pretty good show other than the main event. Both Roode and McIntyre look great but goddamn they are boring as hell in the ring

[seagrams hotsauce]

Decided to give Summerslam a shot and I'm greeted by HBK dressed up as col sanders. What the fuck dude

[bork]

So was Takeover worth watching?  I missed it.  I heard a Meltzer/Alvarez clip about how the crowd just won't boo Asuka no matter how much she tries to heel it up.

Decided to give Summerslam a shot and I'm greeted by HBK dressed up as col sanders. What the fuck dude

That's right when I turned it on, too!    Must be for a commercial.

[bork]

"Where's your briefcase" chants at Corbin

[bork]

Natalya actually won and is now champ.


So when's she going to lose it to Carmella? 

[seagrams hotsauce]

Finn channel his rentboy rasslin days

[bork]

It feels like Wyatt never wins.  Now he was "out weirded" by Balor.  What's the point of the character anymore?

[bork]

Was the crowd just chanting "3MB" at Jinder? 

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This shit is pretty great and I don't really like anyone involved all that much

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I enjoyed the main event more than I expected tho Brock is probably my least fave of the 4. Seems like shit is about the same as it was since Mania

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/899462342542491649

[Trent Dole]

Was the crowd just chanting "3MB" at Jinder? 

That's not a negative. They chanted it towards Drew at Takeover as well. Showing where they came from.


HOLY SHIT BRAUN DA GAWD

3MB owned, Braun was amazing and I hope he gets a singles match with Brock at SS and not some shitty B PPV that's one brand only.

I enjoyed the main event more than I expected tho Brock is probably my least fave of the 4. Seems like shit is about the same as it was since Mania

That means you like Roman more.

[bork]

"Juicy Jinder" 

I probably need to go back and re-watch this PPV since I missed the matches on the pre-show and a good chunk of matches after the first hour or so.  Saw bits and pieces of everything- was Orton/Rusev like 10 seconds and Nak/Jinder like two minutes?  The hell...?

My problem with Jinder is that his character is so fucking boring.  I'm tired of the gimmick of guys being angry bitter heels because they're from another country.  I'd like it so much better if Jinder was all 'Bollywood' and came out smiling and proclaiming how amazing India is, kind of like how Bo Dallas used to have the super-positive heel gimmick.

Any reasonable person would like Roman more than post-Suplex City Brock, though.

[fistfulofmetal]

Glad I got to see Summerslam live.

The experience was great and the energy in the arena awesome. I've seen some people comment that the crowd was dead multiple times throughout the night... but that wasn't my experience for the most part.

The show itself... it was fine overall. Some duds and some standouts. The best moment of the night was when Braun flipped the table onto Brock. The crowd was nuts.

[FunSlower]

Takeover was solid, Summerslam was mostly great.

People complaining that Vince only wants big guys and that there's more to wrestling are liars. That four-way main event was hot hot hot. God DAMN. And it was all brought to you by the power of height and muscle. Big dudes forever.

Loved Jinder keeping the dream alive. Nak looked a little less lazy than usual, so that's nice. I was thinking the other day over in Japan and even since he's been here he hasn't had to deal with interference too much. Plus, it's too early to put the belt on Nak America. Not that I have any knowledge, but you know.

[fistfulofmetal]

It felt good to be able to Boo Reigns live. He really sucked butt in that match. Every time he was in the spotlight the match dragged.

And Joe did fuck-all as well. The only two things that came out of the main event was Braun being awesome and Brock's expert selling.