The opening hours of Twilight Princess, as it turns out, are contained within a tiny portion of the game world. In fact, most of the Ordon Wood events transpire outside the boundaries of the game map. Zooming out on the map screen to get a sense of perspective is rather shocking -- a little bit like leaving Midgar in Final Fantasy VII and realizing that the last half-dozen hours have been contained in a tiny corner of the full game world.
And it truly is vast. Nintendo tells us that Hyrule Field is roughly five times the size of its Ocarina of Time incarnation, and they really aren't kidding. The vast plain stretches into the distant horizon -- and Twilight Princess has some amazing draw distances -- its verdant expanse sullied only by the looming Twilight, which bisects the horizon like a curtain. A curtain the color of a bruise. The silhouette of Hyrule Castle is dimly visible in the distance, mired deep within the Twilight.
At this point, it's possible to branch out a bit. Although your goal is to head northwest from the Ordon's southward location, the enormity of Hyrule Field begs for exploration. The landscape rises and falls and rolls, with groves of trees and large rock outcroppings adding variety to the scenery. You can fish in the pond toward the center, and if you need bait for your fishing rod certain enemies will yield larva when defeated. The only disappointment here is that Hyrule Field stands as a casualty of the switch from GameCube to Wii: because the game environments were mirrored to make the control scheme more comfortable, the general layout of the field -- patterned largely after Ocarina's version -- doesn't register with the same nostalgic impact as it probably should.
Let me guess the future review score. Either a 9 or a 10.Well hey it can't be any worse then FF12.
I mean I dont need to read the review to know they picked someone to review the game who will shove the waggle wii wand up their butts.
I just wish someone would break the cycle. Its not that I mind zelda getting that score if it deserves it, but FF12 did not deserve the scores it received.That's a good point, but reviews don't really mean shit.
The only disappointment here is that Hyrule Field stands as a casualty of the switch from GameCube to Wii: because the game environments were mirrored to make the control scheme more comfortable, the general layout of the field -- patterned largely after Ocarina's version -- doesn't register with the same nostalgic impact as it probably should.
Look at those Dreamcast visuals!
QuoteThe only disappointment here is that Hyrule Field stands as a casualty of the switch from GameCube to Wii: because the game environments were mirrored to make the control scheme more comfortable, the general layout of the field -- patterned largely after Ocarina's version -- doesn't register with the same nostalgic impact as it probably should.
So Gamecube version confirmed as superior version, again. Impressive.
I've played it every E3. It really doesn't look much better, but it is fun.
No, I don't think it looks that good at all - especially on superior setups. It's step back from Wind Waker, in my opinion.
NEW VIDEO 480pThat video is nice. I'm impressed with even the smallest details of this game. The sound effects when the wolf jumps from point to point are awesome. I also like the sound when the wolf strikes at that flying creature. So much attentional to detail.
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748589/vids_1.html
How does he lose that shield after every game? I mean every game starts with him getting it from someone. Fucking forgettful.it's a diffirent link in every game. Nintendo are very unoriginal with character design/names.
Stop bringing up this wii vs gc crap up because you can't afford a damn Wii.
I mean, your favorite game of all time Ocarina of Time has that issue. Why the big contradiction, PD?
It's a contradiction because OoT is your favorite game, so you really shouldn't mind how TP's camera is handled. Obviously you're used to it and it didn't stop you from enjoying OoT>
Sailing was non linear.I mean you would go in a straight path for minutes. Looking forward only would drive you insane.
Wow, Phoenixdark is a jackass. The only reason WW had a manual camera was because you had long areas of linear exploration (sailing) so looking forwards only would screw you over.
Who cares about camera that not why wind waker sucked. It sucked because it had 3 real dungeons.He was bitching about why the GC version of TP would be better.
What? Have we decided that the wii controller cant control a camera?Yes.
What part would you say is necessary for manual camera in TP?
What do you mean? Which part of the controller?What part is going to require a manual camera in TP? How you found it necessary in WW where it's nearly impossible to be killed by getting hit by another enemy I don't know.
In terms of gameplay, I like being able to control the camera, and I'm sure the vast majority of Zelda players would agree that this is an area where WW surpassed OOT.
What do you mean? Which part of the controller?What part is going to require a manual camera in TP? How you found it necessary in WW where it's nearly impossible to be killed by getting hit by another enemy I don't know.
In terms of gameplay, I like being able to control the camera, and I'm sure the vast majority of Zelda players would agree that this is an area where WW surpassed OOT.
OMFG GANON
I'm not going to say anything else; find the pic for yourself, if you want to be spoiled. Everyone knew he'd be in the game so that's not a spoiler...but holy shit.
You know, I still fail to see why I should shell out $250 for a new system for this one game when there's a perfectly good (if not better) version on the older hardware. Especially when the new system isn't likely to have another must own game for probably a year.
That's because you're not a gamer!
TP is all we need. GOD. What is hard to grasp :-\
It's not coming out the same day for Gamecube. :'(TP is all we need. GOD. What is hard to grasp :-\
The reason to drop $250 on a Wii when it's coming out on Gamecube on the same day? What's hard to understand about THAT?
It's not coming out the same day for Gamecube. :'(TP is all we need. GOD. What is hard to grasp :-\
The reason to drop $250 on a Wii when it's coming out on Gamecube on the same day? What's hard to understand about THAT?
A MONTH.Nintendo knows how to make money off of people like Himuro. I'm surprised how little I care about waiting a month anymore. Every stupid argument I see about the game just adds to my disdain for the whole situation.
A MONTH.Nintendo knows how to make money off of people like Himuro. I'm surprised how little I care about waiting a month anymore. Every stupid argument I see about the game just adds to my disdain for the whole situation.
You're just trying to justify your Wii purchase, Himuro. What other games are you buying it for? Come on now. We're here for you.
FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS BUY NINTENDO WII AT LAUNCH
A MONTH.Nintendo knows how to make money off of people like Himuro. I'm surprised how little I care about waiting a month anymore. Every stupid argument I see about the game just adds to my disdain for the whole situation.
This is my position as well. Although I've been getting extremely excited about the game with the recent influx of media, I'm still annoyed by Nintendo's handling of this situation. Delaying the Gamecube version is a slap in the face, period. I'm not going to turn around after that and waste $300 on a system that has no selling points this year. Zelda? On the Gamecube.
You're just trying to justify your Wii purchase, Himuro. What other games are you buying it for? Come on now. We're here for you.
FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS BUY NINTENDO WII AT LAUNCH
nothing. :)
I'm getting Super Swing Golf and Trauma Center a month later though
Either that or replay Zelda TP after beating it. :D
Just remember, Wii = Fran Drescher. You will sleep with it because it is attractive, but in the end you will hate the experience because it will erode your soul with it's hyena laughter. Or waggleness. Or lack of games.My drunk, it'll have Metroid Prime. I do not know what cock jock you compared it to, but it will be BETTER.
Just remember, Wii = Fran Drescher. You will sleep with it because it is attractive, but in the end you will hate the experience because it will erode your soul with it's hyena laughter. Or waggleness. Or lack of games.My drunk, it'll have Metroid Prime. I do not know what cock jock you compared it to, but it will be BETTER.
MP3 currently slated for a release in summer of 2007. And hot lock on action? Why will it be any better this gen?I LIKED IT! ;(
MP3 is one of the most disappointing games I've seen in recent years. It looks good I suppose, but not nearly good enough. I pray Retro fixes the controls; they've got plenty of time
Story - 10: Oh man, this story kicks ass. Nintendo, thank you for growing up and giving us a story that is worthy of the game play that Zelda has boasted for over two decades. If Ocarina of Time was a revolution in Zelda game play, Twilight Princess is a revolution in Zelda storylines. Before this game is done, fan boys will be pissing their pants and message boards will be aflame with rabid fans going nuts over the plethora of twists and turns the game throws at you. Prepare to have your world of Zelda rocked.
MP3 is one of the most disappointing games I've seen in recent years. It looks good I suppose, but not nearly good enough. I pray Retro fixes the controls; they've got plenty of time
You're the guy who wants motherfucking Red Steel more than Prime 3.
No, it didn't. I played Red Steel and Metroid Prime 3 at E3, and Metroid Prime was the clear winner. It was also a fun experience, but Retro does need to tweak the controls to make it a far more fluid experience.
Red Steel was a fucking trainwreck.
No, it didn't. I played Red Steel and Metroid Prime 3 at E3, and Metroid Prime was the clear winner. It was also a fun experience, but Retro does need to tweak the controls to make it a far more fluid experience.
Red Steel was a fucking trainwreck.
After bashing Phantom Hourglass you lost all E3 credibility with me
1 down! :rofl
Nintendo Power gave it a 9.5. Which is pretty good considering they gave OoT the same score, but NOT good because they gave WW a higher score. Wtf? >:(
Nintendo Power gave it a 9.5. Which is pretty good considering they gave OoT the same score, but NOT good because they gave WW a higher score. Wtf? >:(
Well, WW is better than OoT
Nintendo Power gave it a 9.5. Which is pretty good considering they gave OoT the same score, but NOT good because they gave WW a higher score. Wtf? >:(
Despite being the longest Zelda game to date -- there's roughly as much content here as in Ocarina and Wind Waker combined -- it never feels padded.
Despite being the longest Zelda game to date -- there's roughly as much content here as in Ocarina and Wind Waker combined -- it never feels padded.
Despite being the longest Zelda game to date -- there's roughly as much content here as in Ocarina and Wind Waker combined -- it never feels padded.
Despite being the longest Zelda game to date -- there's roughly as much content here as in Ocarina and Wind Waker combined -- it never feels padded.
:lol :lol :lolHasnt basically every site called the wii version superior?
Fuckin Gamespot. Even as a Wii non believer, there's no way I'd give it an 8.8. But this seems to confirm that they'll give the Gamecube one a higher score :-*
:lol :lol :lolHasnt basically every site called the wii version superior?
Fuckin Gamespot. Even as a Wii non believer, there's no way I'd give it an 8.8. But this seems to confirm that they'll give the Gamecube one a higher score :-*
Wow, looks like GS pulled a Ninja Gaiden.
Prediction: GameCube version gets a 9.3.
the reason why he gave sound a 7 was because of the low quality speaker in the wiimote and because the MIDI quality soundtrack while nice is too dated.
he wanted to score the game low so he had to docked a few points from a category and he chose Sound.the reason why he gave sound a 7 was because of the low quality speaker in the wiimote and because the MIDI quality soundtrack while nice is too dated.
I understand that, but he gave a 9 to WW in that category. So it doesn't make sense.
he wanted to score the game low so he had to docked a few points from a category and he chose Sound.Because he's a punk-ass bitch.
WW was also last-gen.the reason why he gave sound a 7 was because of the low quality speaker in the wiimote and because the MIDI quality soundtrack while nice is too dated.
I understand that, but he gave a 9 to WW in that category. So it doesn't make sense.
WW was also last-gen.the reason why he gave sound a 7 was because of the low quality speaker in the wiimote and because the MIDI quality soundtrack while nice is too dated.
I understand that, but he gave a 9 to WW in that category. So it doesn't make sense.
Oh wait, TP is too.
Himu pisses off another cigarillo graphics whore.
I get a new way to play Zelda and a new way to immerse in the Zelda world, which is something that Zelda's always been about to me, not the dungeons or puzzle solving, but the world, adventure, and immersion that comes from it.
Okay so wtf
I have to get a cradle from a monkey but i have no way to get the cradle! It's way too high!
Damn you!
Also I gotta get a cat but I have no way to get it. I need to get fish for it, but I need a fishing pole to do that and in order to get the fishing pole I need that cradle!
damn you!
wind waker's visual style is gonna hold up a lot better than twilight princess' muddy-ass palette and lo-fi textures.
wind waker's visual style is gonna hold up a lot better than twilight princess' muddy-ass palette and lo-fi textures.
WW was also last-gen.the reason why he gave sound a 7 was because of the low quality speaker in the wiimote and because the MIDI quality soundtrack while nice is too dated.
I understand that, but he gave a 9 to WW in that category. So it doesn't make sense.
Oh wait, TP is too.
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dun dun DUN
:lol
Well, you can certainly say fatty here.
How long are you banned Beezy? Always good to get cool new people over here at Evilbore.
So I hear this game is 8.8 hours long according to Gamespot. Did I misread something?
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Not for long. I got banned on Saturday and I think it ends sometime tomorrow. Goddamn Amir0x. I hope Mother 3 never gets released over here.
Oh, and I've been lurking here for a while. I just didn't join until now.So I hear this game is 8.8 hours long according to Gamespot. Did I misread something?
:lol
I don't think it's actually from TP, and god I hope I'm right.(http://webpages.charter.net/clearacell/link88.gif)
Is this real-time or a cutscene? It looks rendered
It's not as dungeon crawler heavy as LttP or OoT but it has long dungeons
It's not as dungeon crawler heavy as LttP or OoT but it has long dungeons.
Why wait for when you pick up an hdtv...?
Wii will be easy to find. They're shipping 4 million units before the year is out, no?
Once again, Himuro is carrying a thread by himself by making a post about every section in the game.cause he's one of the only people with the system and the game?
;)
I can't think of anythign bad about this game. At all.
At the 4th dungeon and it's AWESOME.
I'm about to hit the third dungeon, and this game is fucking perfection.
I even found a random dungeon off to the side of Hyrule field and got me a heart piece.
Okay so this game is definitely in my top 10 after that 4th dungeon. Even though it was on the short side (compared to the others) and it wasn't particularly difficult...IT WAS FUCKING AWESOME
Don't know how anyone could say it was tedious
The town segment was mostly used to get you up to speed with the controls and get used to them.
I think the wolf segments were really cool and I like the "waggle".
And? What's wrong with that? It's just as easy as pressing a digital button, so why is there a problem simply moving your wrist?
It does depend on how fast you waggle. You can do combos and shit dude. Wave the remote 3 times to do a three hit combo, stuff like that.
I just don't get the complaint at all. Sure it could be virtually be done with a button, but isn't that what Nintendo was going for with the remote in the first place? I personally see that as something that should be applauded. You get the same results you get for pushing a button by simply flicking your wrist. This frees up so much space in the interface and makes playing it a breeze, a simple comfortable breeze.
B trigger ftw.
I like the waggle for some of the sword moves you learn latter on. It frees up the A button to do other stuff like jump attacks.
Also, :lol at calling the game tedious.
Your white man on GAF right? You pretty much get off on the movie China Town which is the very definition of Tedious. So get that shit out of my face.
You'll get a letter when the Hawkeye is in, if I recall correctly. Go complete some subquests and come back.
Fourth dungeon was easily my favorite, especially the boss battle.
Didn't you ask for both versions for Christmas?
:lol :lol FUCK YOU NINTENDO!! I'M GOING TO GET FOUR COPIES OF THE SAME GAME!!
:lol :lol FUCK YOU NINTENDO!! I'M GOING TO GET FOUR COPIES OF THE SAME GAME!!
I get a collector copy of every Zelda game.
I know that makes me a hypocrite, but I've got a compulsion to collect the Zelda games. I wasn't planning on getting 2 GC versions of Twilight Princess, but the lack of widescreen with the Wii controls pushed me to do it. So fuck Nintendo for making me spend yet another $50 on them.