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(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8725/17872491pf4.jpg)
Am I the only one buying it here? Sound off fellow Dyack cocksuckers
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Holla if the story is good. If the story is not good, i'm not buying.
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Nah, it's too fugly.
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Thought the combat was janky in the demo, and hated the skating from enemy to enemy. So yeah ill be passing. Probably will bite if it drops in price.
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shining force neo > turd human
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too busy playing civ4
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I'll be waiting for a price drop at least. Maybe get it early next year if releases slow right down as usual.
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I'm interested because I fucking love hack & slashing, dungeon crawling, and loot collecting, but the animation is horrendous. God, it looks like everyone is a fucking robot.
And I heard the story sucks enormous amounts of balls. I have no problem with a generic, well written story, but if it really sucks that much...
BTW, it's hilarious that Dennis Dywhatever is crying over GAF tearing this game apart. IF YOU SAY YOUR GAME IS ON A FUCKING SHAKESPEAREAN LEVEL OF AWESOMENESS, THEN YOU BEST DELIVER.
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I want it because I liked ED and I'm curious to see the next original game from SK, but I'm going to wait because I probably won't feel like playing this genre of console game any time soon.
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http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169393
EGM Review
Uh Oh. Shoulda gotten Shane Bettenhausen on review. :lol
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I probably won't be buying this, or at least not at full price, but I do hope that it fails enough to ensure they actually go back and fix problems I saw in the combat, yet still succeed enough to have a sequel. The idea of having a loot based game with good combat would be awesome, but Too Human had worse combat than Diablo.
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I'm renting just out of curiosity.
I was going to buy it but that demo.....oh man.
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360 finally gets it Heavenly Sword, Liar, Genji 2 etc.
I think this is on the same scale as Genji 2. Better than Lair, worse than Heavenly Sword. Anything is better than Lair.
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http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169393
EGM Review
This game won't even be worth renting or even buying at the price of $10 dollars after the price drop in three months. Sounds like trash.
Thank gyllengod Demi is taking the fall for me.
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But the most disappointing thing, by far, is the loot factor. The game offers no shortage of weapons and armor -- which is good -- but the fact that you're always finding better equipment makes even crafted blueprint items seem ordinary. Nothing's worse than saving money and leveling up to craft a powerful weapon or sturdy armor only to go back into the inventory and see that you already have new blueprints for an even more powerful weapon or even stronger armor.
This was one of the problems I hoped was only present in the demo. It is a same concern I have for Borderlands.
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TOO HUMAN DELIVERS
I am buying it and fully expecting it to be crappy, but fun for co-op.
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Holla if the story is good. If the story is not good, i'm not buying.
You wouldn't buy a dungeon grinder because the story sucked?
That's like passing on a porn because the story sucked.
u gay?
Dungeon Grinder is very much like jerking off. Story is pretty much the mental image you create that makes you want to jerk off.
Jerking off without that "story", ammounts to just fucking your hand. That's what a Dungeon Grinder is without a story that appeals you, fucking your hand.
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http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169393
EGM Review
Uh Oh. Shoulda gotten Shane Bettenhausen on review. :lol
By : Giancarlo Varanini
Who the fuck is this guy?
This motherfucker is a Ps3fajjit
http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5380090
(http://www.1up.com/media?id=3047866&type=lg) (http://www.1up.com/media?id=3047852&type=lg)
Fuck him.
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No worth downloading.
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If I sign up for Gamefly today or tomorrow, this might be the first game I try out.
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WTF IS THIS
From what I gather, you can't play through co-op the first time through. You cannot select a co-op level without first completing it in the 1-player campaign (page 18 of the instruction manual). Not an awful design, but I'm not sure why they really did it -- just so they could force you to watch the cutscenes?
No way, this could be a dealbreaker for me
It would make sense though since it actually matters and the 1up writer did not mention anything about in the review.
:piss games journalism :piss2
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http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169393
EGM Review
Uh Oh. Shoulda gotten Shane Bettenhausen on review. :lol
By : Giancarlo Varanini
Who the fuck is this guy?
This motherfucker is a Ps3fajjit
http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5380090
(http://www.1up.com/media?id=3047866&type=lg) (http://www.1up.com/media?id=3047852&type=lg)
Fuck him.
Apparently he was from OPM. Gamespot, Gametap
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Did 1up score the online exclusive for this one? :lol
Any word on when IGNs review promo will hit?
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No way, this could be a dealbreaker for me
It would make sense though since it actually matters and the 1up writer did not mention anything about in the review.
:piss games journalism :piss2
Most times when people review games they don't get the manual or anything with it and tend to just play it through in a linear fashion. But hey, he did praise co-op, so he could have tried that after finishing single player or whatever.
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What do you care duckman? You don't even have a 360.
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I'll be getting it. Not really sure what to expect. I'm hoping I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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What do you care duckman? You don't even have a 360.
Yes I do.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331102&page=14 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331102&page=14)
The bottom is hilarious.
Denis is proven wrong by his own manual.
I'm assuming you have to have played the first level, and then the co-op will flow from there. It'd be fucking distinguished mentally-challenged if it didn't work that way.
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No thanks, I'll wait for Sacred 2 to hit 360-- same type of "Diablo" game, but with *gasp* FOUR PLAYERS ONLINE! UNPOSSIBLE!!!! :o :o :o :o
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^^Thank the (norse)Gods
I thought that I was going to be throwing my money away on a shitty game there for a minute
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The best part about Too Human is that it shows that Xbox fans can be as insecure and defensive as Sony fans.
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From Jeff Green at gaf:
The other 2 reviews that go with this for EGM magazine---written by guys you apparently know better--don't veer much away from this score at all.
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SK isn't worried since they will be getting all the profits from Gears of War lol.
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Dennis Dyack just really needs, like, 2 years off so he can regain his motherfucking sanity (pun intended) and make what we all really want: Eternal Darkness 2.
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Do you really want ED2?
Imo, SK just doesn't have what it takes to make a game this gen, a big budget game at least. They are incompetent in too many ways, and a look at their cut scene animations says all there needs to say about the ability of the team to make a game that lives up to the expectations of being on a next gen system.
They should've stayed with Nintendo.
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well this thread made my ignore list nice and fat
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I am buying it -- there was just something weirdly compelling about the demo. Plus, how can you not be there on Day 1 of the Too Human Apocalypse that we're only beginning to see now?
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Hey, Border:
"Giancarlo wants to hold Too Human up to the highest standards of the action-genre and the RPG-genre, but the game is a hybrid so that doesn't seem entirely fair."
I don't get this attitude. Even if we were to ignore Dyack's own claims of Too Human's excellence in every way (yes, he did tout it as a remarkable action game, and name-dropped well known games in that genre), shouldn't the favorable result be the best of each component built into something great with this selected wunderputty? In this case, it seems to work the other way; we apparently should not demand a great action game component from this, due to precedence and because, hey, it's a hybrid.
And if one was to, as several critics already have, mention shortcomings in the story, one would soon hear that one should not expect a great story either, because hey, it's a bit of everything, and apparently, nothing in a bit of everything can actually be great, or in this case even good. That doesn't make much sense to me, or at least it does not when it's used to excuse elements of mediocrity.
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They should've stayed with Nintendo.
Pretty sure it wasn't their decision.
Were they actually ever tied to Nintendo, as in multi-game contracts and such? I never really understood the "second party" set-up.
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I got ignored because I'm buying Too Human? Grow up, loser
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Nice title change. :lol Not buying this, nyah nyah.
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They should've stayed with Nintendo.
Pretty sure it wasn't their decision.
Were they actually ever tied to Nintendo, as in multi-game contracts and such? I never really understood the "second party" set-up.
Well, it was like Insomniac. Insomniac isn't tied with Sony, but they make games for Sony. That was what SK was for nintendo, until they said to nintendo they wanted to make game A and B (Too Human i'm sure), Nintendo must've said they were out of their mind, and they bounced.
Shane Kim baited, as the fool he is, and here we are.
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Well, it was like Insomniac. Insomniac isn't tied with Sony, but they make games for Sony. That was what SK was for nintendo, until they said to nintendo they wanted to make game A and B (Too Human i'm sure), Nintendo must've said they were out of their mind, and they bounced.
Shane Kim baited, as the fool he is, and here we are.
Maybe Too Human will do OK financially? After a couple of really negative reviews, doom and gloom were predicted for Assassin's Creed as well but look at how that turned out.
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Too Human is going to sell a ton. Games tend to sell on that system, irrespective of quality.
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Too Human is going to sell a ton. Games tend to sell on that system, irrespective of quality.
Which is the polar opposite on the PS3.
Yeah.
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Uh Galaga Legions is this week, moran
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Well, it was like Insomniac. Insomniac isn't tied with Sony, but they make games for Sony. That was what SK was for nintendo, until they said to nintendo they wanted to make game A and B (Too Human i'm sure), Nintendo must've said they were out of their mind, and they bounced.
Shane Kim baited, as the fool he is, and here we are.
Maybe Too Human will do OK financially? After a couple of really negative reviews, doom and gloom were predicted for Assassin's Creed as well but look at how that turned out.
Assassins creed had some great reviews, great marketing, great pre launch hype, and it just looked balla.
Too Human is like, the opposite.
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I don't get this attitude. Even if we were to ignore Dyack's own claims of Too Human's excellence in every way (yes, he did tout it as a remarkable action game, and name-dropped well known games in that genre), shouldn't the favorable result be the best of each component built into something great with this selected wunderputty? In this case, it seems to work the other way; we apparently should not demand a great action game component from this, due to precedence and because, hey, it's a hybrid.
Measuring the game against a developer's claims is not really standard practice, so I don't see why the 1Up reviewer should be doing that.
The standard-bearers for this particular genre (Diablo, Phantasy Star Online, Monster Hunter) are not known for precise and visceral twitch-action gameplay, nor are they known for epic and memorable storytelling. Their aim is for a level of accessibility that disappears when you turn your game into Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry.
For all the complaints surrounding the game, nobody explains how it fails in comparison to its peers. Giancarlo is on to something with his criticisms about the meaningless loot and poor inventory management, but the review is so short and slight that he never really gets into it.
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i don't like the fact that i can still read the thread titles of ignored users; better get on that willco.
i'm 5 deep, now my eyes will no longer be marred by insincere too human praise. don't worry denial is just the first stage when you reach stage 5 you will be unignored.
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You barely post here anyways. I doubt Wilco will give a fuck what you think.
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Galaga Legions is fuck amazing, Castle Crashers is boooring.
You're boring and answer my PM you skeeze
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Too Human is going to sell a ton. Games tend to sell on that system, irrespective of quality.
I know Two Worlds sold on X360 but whatever not all game sell on the console. And i havent seen a single TV add for this game. Im not so sure its gonna selll that well. Ill be shocked if it outsells what Bioshock did last Aug.
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You barely post here anyways. I doubt Wilco will give a fuck what you think.
his bitchass is ignored until he does.
Too Human is going to sell a ton. Games tend to sell on that system, irrespective of quality.
i'm doubtful. this games has no marketing whatsoever. hell, i visit message boards and i had no idea what this games release date was until a week ago and the demo didn't do the game any favors.
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Are my eyes deceiving me or does Dyack really have a "Too Human Defense Forse" avatar?
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Amazing. The old "Did the author even play the whole game?" has now become "Did the author really play the whole game several times?"
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Post his GAF avatar here folks. I don't visit that site anymore.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2e64oqt.jpg)
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100x100 is against the rules.
report him lulz.
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100x100 is against the rules.
report him lulz.
Someone do this, but PM him our link first.
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:bow Fable 2 :bow2
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100x100 is against the rules.
report him lulz.
Someone do this, but PM him our link first.
Someone draft a hilarious PM and I'll do it
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Buying it, but only because I'm reviewing it.
I'd love to be pleasantly surprised... but not banking on it.
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I don't get why people are complaining about this review lacking in content. That's what nearly all 1up reviews are like. Or are they just now noticing the short form, budget format, because it's a score they disagree with?
When viewed as buyer's guides, 1up reviews are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel.
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Would also like a link set to Dyack, so he can see my manboy mutual love for him
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Would also like a link set to Dyack, so he can see my manboy mutual love for him
Which post would you like him to read? I'll pm him.
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Just tell him to register here. I want to talk about his interpretation of Norse mythology, after I'm done with the game. I still think separating the mythology from its cultural roots and environments (and replacing elemental creatures with robots) is a fundamental blunder, but it can't be worse than the Japanese "interpretations," ie. borrowing some names, relevance be damned.
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The one where I say I want to suck his cock
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Is this alright
(http://s4.tinypic.com/29cx8ba.jpg)
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Dude evilb0re wont work wtf
Use an image or something
Is disillusioned a bad word? We're awesome don't smear us you cunt
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Dude evilb0re wont work wtf
That's only the text. The actual link is through tinyurl because even that is filtered to ****
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Quick, everyone put on their Too Human defense avatar and their cleanest shorts, dignitaries be browsing these street corners soon enough!
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I sent one as well. I don't get why evilbore is a censored word over there.
And while I don't have Gamefly yet, I probably will by the end of this week and will get Too Human as my first game. Hopefully someone else is up for co-op.
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Just tell him that it'd bug the living shit out of NeoGAF administration if he joined our
cult community.
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I don't get why people are complaining about this review lacking in content. That's what nearly all 1up reviews are like. Or are they just now noticing the short form, budget format, because it's a score they disagree with?
Just browsing around the site -- abortions like Alone in the Dark and Shadowrun got 1000-1200 word reviews. The Too Human review is barely 600.
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Fair enough. It still reads like any other 1up review to me, equally as bad as most other reviews on that site when it comes to being a buyer's guide. And I'm not also not getting why it's assumed that a "high profile" game should automatically get a longer, more "fleshed out" review than smaller, less anticipated titles. I'm not going to argue that this is not what it usually is like, but it's not something that reasonable people should ask for. Unless of course they have no real use for the review other than as more reading material for an anticipated game. If anything, the less known title should get more coverage, to offer more information on the game.
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Shadowrun was good, hater!
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Here is the final product, with a link to the font page of this thread
(http://s4.tinypic.com/14xnkpj.jpg)
and here is receipt confirmation that he read it
(http://s4.tinypic.com/4q3mua.jpg)
:drudge DYACK INCOMING :drudge
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Haha that would be sweet if he registered just to say FUCK YOU HATERS
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Quick, someone make a banner for the OP.
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Quick, someone make a banner for the OP.
:lol
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(http://i36.tinypic.com/f2uhqd.jpg)
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Welcome, De
nnis!
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Omg omg omg
Somebody pick that Ninja Gaiden 2 banner, and write Too Human over it, quick
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Dyack should post about his experience with his head stuck between two sets of funbags. Did he pop a chub?
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Dyack should post about his experience with his head stuck between two sets of funbags. Did he pop a chub?
:rofl
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If he joins, I will bitch endlessly until he makes Eternal Darkness 2. And takes some medication for his craziness before development.
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Let's have 2 banners!
(http://i37.tinypic.com/n5hhf9.gif)
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:rofl
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Let's have 2 banners!
http://i37.tinypic.com/n5hhf9.gif
:rofl
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12439583&postcount=478
Can someone remind Benji here of that it took him several attempts to actually like the demo?
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ok i made a banner
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Hey fuck off asshole, what do you care, you were gonna not buy it because of a $15 game
You are not Too Human-ite
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ok i updated it, how's that
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ok i updated it, how's that
:rofl
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360 finally gets it Heavenly Sword, Liar, Genji 2 etc.
Finally? Mass Effect came out last year
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I sent one as well. I don't get why evilbore is a censored word over there.
And while I don't have Gamefly yet, I probably will by the end of this week and will get Too Human as my first game. Hopefully someone else is up for co-op.
If you don't have new release in your Q on it's ship date, you will be looking at a long wait. What I'm saying is, if you join Gamefly later this week, it's going to take them a few days to get your copy of Too Human in the mail.
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i'll buy it when it hits the bargain bins. will play co-op for the LULZ
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I sent one as well. I don't get why evilbore is a censored word over there.
And while I don't have Gamefly yet, I probably will by the end of this week and will get Too Human as my first game. Hopefully someone else is up for co-op.
If you don't have new release in your Q on it's ship date, you will be looking at a long wait. What I'm saying is, if you join Gamefly later this week, it's going to take them a few days to get your copy of Too Human in the mail.
No rush. I have enough games to play anyway.
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i'll buy it when it hits the TheBlackStallion is hysterical. will play co-op for the LULZ
:lol
What's that? Is there a list of filtered words somewhere?
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It means shit-bin (minus the -)
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Does the term offend Wilco or something?
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Back in the day everyone would say to put the thread in the shit-bin, meaning delete it, get it out of here so it got turned into TBS is hysterical, which is an actual poster, who is in fact not hysterical
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Another review! :hyper
Too Human feels painfully average and was hardly worth the wait.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2008/08/19/too_human_review.html
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The negative and lukewarm Too Human reviews makes me feel all giddy inside.
Edit: cigarillo, shitbin
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Another review! :hyper
Too Human feels painfully average and was hardly worth the wait.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archives/2008/08/19/too_human_review.html
:hyper :hyper :hyper
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Omg omg omg
Somebody pick that Ninja Gaiden 2 banner, and write Too Human over it, quick
Sorry it took me so long. I wasn't paying attention.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/hotgraham/TooHobo.jpg)
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How do you open the other classes on the demo?
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Time released, Dreamer. Set your clock ahead on your 360.
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Milky just posted at the gaf thread
Not good. When EGMs resident Loot Whore and Xfag himself thinks its shitty. Well thats the kiss of death. Will wait for Fable
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If you're looking for a cheap copy of the game, I'd wait about two days, then go visit your nearest EB or Gamestop.
:hyper
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um... that still wont be cheap, they'll mark it up for near-retail anyway
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IGN review
7.5 Presentation
The story has its moments and is woven into the game well, but that’s the extent of it.
8.0 Graphics
Streaming everything to do away with load times does come with its drawbacks, but the art design is quite good.
9.0 Sound
Excellent voice acting and music, only slightly marred by a few sound bugs and repetitive battle chatter.
7.5 Gameplay
Deep customization options and heaven for loot drop fans. The forgiving death system and auto-scaling enemies make the combat feel unrewarding.
7.5 Lasting Appeal
If you get hooked, you’ll be here for months. People who don’t love collecting random loot won’t get hooked.
7.8
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/899/899826p1.html
What the hell is "art design" anyway? Is it supposed to refer to artistic value, quality and craftsmanship?
If it wasn't obvious already that IGN was grasping for ways to not give this game shit, here is another good one:
The animations aren't the smoothest, but the visuals look crisp, especially when you consider how much of this game is streamed in the background to do away with load screens.
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I haven't read the IGN review, but that sounds pretty fair to me - from the demo it struck me as a 7/10 game. As in it's OK, some might like it, but it's far from great.
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Omg omg omg
Somebody pick that Ninja Gaiden 2 banner, and write Too Human over it, quick
Sorry it took me so long. I wasn't paying attention.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/hotgraham/TooHobo.jpg)
Here's a fucking decent banner. Demi cmon, take that taco shit from the OP, this is the true deal.
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I didn't see muckhole's banner before - the Baldur makeover is awesome. :rofl
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Holy shit Gamespot hit it with a 5.5 :lol
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/toohuman/index.html?tag=result;title;0
Another one for the curriculum of Shane Kim.
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Art design is, uh, art design. It refers more to cohesiveness of vision rather than component parts.
Seems like a bastard term to me, though. Until it started showing up in game reviews and previews, I had literally never heard anyone combine the two like that. I think I almost preferred it when "art direction" was the most often misused catch-all phrase.
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how about no, sock wiper
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Holy shit Gamespot hit it with a 5.5 :lol
Long, detailed review too. Best buyer's guide for Too Human so far, assuming they are honest of course.
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yeah, that gamespot review was pretty thorough -- and scathing. there'll be quite a few empty hostess endcaps in toronto tonight!
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how about no, sock wiper
Fine keep the fucking ball.
The video review of Too Human at IGN was cool, but, i don't know. 5.5 from gamespot? Smells like a shit game.
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there'll be quite a few empty hostess endcaps in toronto tonight!
:lol
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that banner just keeps getting better and better
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yeah, of all the game subgenres to implement level scaling in, hack-and-slash is the worst possible choice. i can almost understand squeenix and bethesda being distinguished mentally-challenged in this fashion with respect to their subgenres, but ANY developer creating a diablo clone that likewise implements level scaling should be drug into the street and have liquid aids forcibly poured down his gullet.
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Is it that important to be able to go back to some low-level area and blow everything up? I mean, I might do that once or twice in an RPG, but it's not a big deal. If the enemies are scaled to your stats and gear that seems bad, but if it's just to your level then there is still going to be a purpose for collecting useful items.
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It sounds like TH scales enemies with the character, which nullifies LEWTZ COLLETIN'
smh
Good grief...
Welp, I ain't buying it now. I wanted to believe, but the mediocre scores don't justify $60 when there are a ton of better games coming later this fall. Maybe if they had released it in June.
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I'm sure Shakespeare got some bad reviews in his day. We'll have to wait four-hundred years before we can truly judge Too Human.
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the POINT to collecting loot is to not only stay on the crest of the difficulty curve, but to blow it out of the fucking water when you get that one uberdrop. and yes, it is very fun to deal death in earlier levels as a minmaxed cybergod*.
* see, dyack's shitty design even obliterates a potential metaphor! SHAKESPEARE MY ASS.
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Too Human is... I guess I would categorize it as so innovative, people might find it difficult to understand at first.
http://play.tm/story/20315 (http://play.tm/story/20315)
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I'm still in. This is history in the making.
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Too Human is... I guess I would categorize it as so innovative, people might find it difficult to understand at first.
http://play.tm/story/20315 (http://play.tm/story/20315)
When Miyamoto-san created Mario 64,
oh god oh god
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Is it that important to be able to go back to some low-level area and blow everything up? I mean, I might do that once or twice in an RPG, but it's not a big deal. If the enemies are scaled to your stats and gear that seems bad, but if it's just to your level then there is still going to be a purpose for collecting useful items.
The whole point of loot-based games with stats and the inherent min-maxing of your character is to eventually become a walking, unkillable god.
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the POINT to collecting loot is to not only stay on the crest of the difficulty curve, but to blow it out of the fucking water when you get that one uberdrop. and yes, it is very fun to deal death in earlier levels as a minmaxed cybergod*.
I think the main problem is that you can't go help a friend level up during early sections. Since everything gets scaled to the highest level player, your newbie friend just gets to die again and again while you slog through enemies they have no hope of killing.
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This guy is too much.
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what would be more gratifying: hearing dyack try to spin this in the press, or total radio silence as he loses his specious newsworthiness?
a meltdown would of course be more fun, but imagine the subtle sweetness of not knowing what denis dyack thinks about preview methodology or miyamoto-sama or brain drain in small canadian towns
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The whole point of loot-based games with stats and the inherent min-maxing of your character is to eventually become a walking, unkillable god.
Assuming that the scaling is only in regards to level (and not to gear/stats), shouldn't that still be possible at maximum level if the loot is good enough?
My only min-maxing experience is with WoW, where due to game balance you can't become an unkillable god. How far can you push the envelope in Diablo and TQ?
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it's pretty obvious that dyack doesn't even remotely understand the hack-and-slash subgenre if he's trying to dmc it up with aerial raves and combos. hack-and-slash is all about building a character, and the challenge should be fixed in order to test your build skills at that level -- not your reflexes or timing. you pick a class, you pick a specialty weapon, and then you focus your kit/loadout around specific skills or abilities -- and then you try to make it work, where "work" is defined as successfully clearing an area of fixed-level and smartly-designed enemies with as little effort as possible, because reduced effort means your build rocks. you pick assassin, you go spears, you go poison, you pick an active skill or a set of passive skills (or some combo thereof) to focus on, and then you try to make that work. it's all about gambling and minmaxing, not racking up a combo meter or aiming for a score/rating.
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diablo and tq can let you become utterly fucking invinicible with either enough cleverness (exploiting the deep interconnectedness and interoperation of skills and loot), game knowledge (if pindleskin has a 5% drop rate of an ultra rare, i have a good chance of picking up the item i need to complete my build in x farming runs), or patience (hur hur level 99 uber alles).
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When Miyamoto-san created Mario 64,
oh god oh god
How is this surprising? That's tame compared to these gems from Twin Snakes' development:
There's a three-way collaboration there, and it's really exciting -- the relationship itself. It's a meeting of the minds -- I always say Miyamoto's like Aristotle and Kojima's like Socrates, so you have these two great masters working together.
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3109703
In our opinion, Kojima-san's group is one of the best in the world and an ongoing relationship between Nintendo and Konami would be a great thing in our opinion. I personally would love to see Socrates (Kojima-san) and Aristotle (Miyamoto-san) continue to work together in the future. This would be good for gamers and good for our industry.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/445/445991p1.html
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Is it that important to be able to go back to some low-level area and blow everything up? I mean, I might do that once or twice in an RPG, but it's not a big deal. If the enemies are scaled to your stats and gear that seems bad, but if it's just to your level then there is still going to be a purpose for collecting useful items.
The whole point of loot-based games with stats and the inherent min-maxing of your character is to eventually become a walking, unkillable god.
And also grinding like crazy to make it through the next act.
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Dyack-san says a lotta things:
"I think Too Human will have a lot of legs, unlike some games that sell in the first few months and that's it, you're going to see Too Human have a long life-span."
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DYACK-SAMA, BE MY DESU DESU MOE-CHAN
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DYACK-SAMA, BE MY DESU DESU MOE-CHAN UGUU~ °A°
Fixed.
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Not hard to have a long tail when your game hits $20 within a few months of release
Too Hubris 2: Wrath of the Twinkies
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but if the enemies scale the loot is that much less effective.
At that point you're basically just looking for good loot to keep up with the curve, rather than staying a step or two ahead.
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When Miyamoto-san created Mario 64,
oh god oh god
How is this surprising? That's tame compared to these gems from Twin Snakes' development:
There's a three-way collaboration there, and it's really exciting -- the relationship itself. It's a meeting of the minds -- I always say Miyamoto's like Aristotle and Kojima's like Socrates, so you have these two great masters working together.
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3109703
In our opinion, Kojima-san's group is one of the best in the world and an ongoing relationship between Nintendo and Konami would be a great thing in our opinion. I personally would love to see Socrates (Kojima-san) and Aristotle (Miyamoto-san) continue to work together in the future. This would be good for gamers and good for our industry.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/445/445991p1.html
:rofl
It's hard to combine that level of pretentiousness and sycophancy.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also, I assume he meant Plato, not Socrates.
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he meant PLATO-SAN and ARISTOTLE-SAMA
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Yeah, Socrates probably drank that hemlock when he got to Act 5 of MGS4.
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Too Humanu-kun
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he meant PLATO-SAN and ARISTOTLE-SAMA
PURETO-SAN and ARISATATORU-SAMA, baka gaijin.
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NANI??!??!??!!?!??!!?!?
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he meant PLATO-SAN and ARISTOTLE-SAMA
PURETO-SAN to ARISATATORU-SAMA, baka gaijin.
Come on, dude.
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Dyack: Too Human will be sugoi*!
TL Note: "sugoi" means "great" or "wow"
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TL: "Pureto-san" means "Mr. Plato".
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Adding to what Prole said a good loot based game will have certain skills that reward a patient player, so hording stat points early on will reward the player later when they can dump them in a high level skill, but for that to work the early game has top be designed in such a way that rarer drops will compensate for the skills you are holding off on (it should be harder early on still), but if the enemies scale the loot is that much less effective.
I didn't think Diablo had that much going on -- I just assumed it was WoW with a simpler interface, instanced world, and some random dungeons. I think it's pretty clear Dyack is after a WoW-model. The game has talent trees and EZ re-specs, so there is no point in hording skill points. You can't just dump everything into some high-level talent because you're required to dump points into all the talents that precede it.
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Playing a videogame shouldn't feel like being a factory robot assembling cars.
http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/too-human-part-1/899899p1.html
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Well, to be fair, Titan's Quest had easy respeccing too.
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So do you think, at some point, Dyack realized the game's failings and just decided he ought to try and sell the game with controversy? At some point, Microsoft probably came to him and said something to the extent of "This isn't testing well, finish up what you've got and we'll dump it in late August with limited marketing support." Do you think he suspected that the reaction of game critics was going to be this apathetic and polarized?
Or does he still earnestly believe that this game is a triumph of the medium, and we will now be subject to months of Derek Smart-ish arguments with the enthusiast press? Or will he take his lumps, realize the problems and compromises made, and maintain dignified silence?
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Well, to be fair, Titan's Quest had easy respeccing too.
indeed it did. im still not at the point where im an unkillable god though :(
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So do you think, at some point, Dyack realized the game's failings and just decided he ought to try and sell the game with controversy? At some point, Microsoft probably came to him and said something to the extent of "This isn't testing well, finish up what you've got and we'll dump it in late August with limited marketing support." Do you think he suspected that the reaction of game critics was going to be this apathetic and polarized?
Or does he still earnestly believe that this game is a triumph of the medium, and we will now be subject to months of Derek Smart-ish arguments with the enthusiast press? Or will he take his lumps, realize the problems and compromises made, and maintain dignified silence?
I think he knows his game is mediocre, but that maybe he was thinking he could coast to better than average reviews? Up until this game, the press has been kind to his very mediocre games, and this sort of dungeon crawl is under-represented on consoles, so maybe he though reviewers would put up with the jankiness.
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So do you think, at some point, Dyack realized the game's failings and just decided he ought to try and sell the game with controversy? At some point, Microsoft probably came to him and said something to the extent of "This isn't testing well, finish up what you've got and we'll dump it in late August with limited marketing support." Do you think he suspected that the reaction of game critics was going to be this apathetic and polarized?
Or does he still earnestly believe that this game is a triumph of the medium, and we will now be subject to months of Derek Smart-ish arguments with the enthusiast press? Or will he take his lumps, realize the problems and compromises made, and maintain dignified silence?
I think you're overthinking it (I feel like I'm at gaf). I think he just thinks his game is great.
"Think" is a weird word when you overuse it like I just did.
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Denis should just release Too Human on the PC and keep patching it until it becomes the AAA game that he envisioned.
It's not like he'll be busy in the next decade. :P
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SK doesn't have the talent to make an A game, no matter how much money/time they have
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So do you think, at some point, Dyack realized the game's failings and just decided he ought to try and sell the game with controversy? At some point, Microsoft probably came to him and said something to the extent of "This isn't testing well, finish up what you've got and we'll dump it in late August with limited marketing support." Do you think he suspected that the reaction of game critics was going to be this apathetic and polarized?
Or does he still earnestly believe that this game is a triumph of the medium, and we will now be subject to months of Derek Smart-ish arguments with the enthusiast press? Or will he take his lumps, realize the problems and compromises made, and maintain dignified silence?
I think you're overthinking it (I feel like I'm at gaf). I think he just thinks his game is great.
"Think" is a weird word when you overuse it like I just did.
see, I just don't buy that someone who's shown the composure of a shrieking American Idol reject will suddenly gain his autonomy and rest contented with his own work. It's a guarantee that he's internally boiling right now. Oh man!
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see, I just don't buy that someone who's shown the composure of a shrieking American Idol reject will suddenly gain his autonomy and rest contented with his own work. It's a guarantee that he's internally boiling right now. Oh man!
Well, I think Microsoft PR will probably keep him reined in anyway. As a PC developer that doesn't need huge budgets, someone like Derek Smart probably has more room to give very candid responses to criticism.
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DYACK DESU DYACK DESU DYACK DESU DYACK DESU DYACK DESU DYACK DESU DYACK DESU DYACK DESU DYACK DESU
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you can already see him playing the self-satisfied angle in the other Too Human GAF thread. Internally though? Liquid hot. My schadenfreudar rarely misses. 8)
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That IGN thread galloped away like crazy, so... has Dyack posted in it yet? I want to see how he deals with this educated criticism. Remember, previews and blind hate (yet somehow, not blind love) of work in progress are of the schmutz devil, but reviews of finished games are supposedly fuck awesome.
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http://www.nzgamer.com/x360/reviews/742/too-human.html (http://www.nzgamer.com/x360/reviews/742/too-human.html)
The player is supported (in single player) by a host of human "wolves" (and a bear)
Do you still get the bear, if you're only curious?
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Deprived of a decent storyline, innovative mechanics, and limited variation in either enemies or environments, Too Human is barely worthy of a weekend rental. It's an extremely repetitive treadmill set in a world you'll never get a chance to actually learn anything about thanks to the almost complete lack of exposition. Whatever points it scores for its somewhat interesting approach to combat are almost instantly retracted once you perform them for the umpteenth time on the same robot that fights in the same way. Unfortunately, Too Human can't even provide decent graphics at a consistent framerate, as graphical hitches and choppy visuals are a regular occurrence. All of these negatives leave little reason to recommend Too Human.
http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/too-human-part-1/899899p1.html
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That Too Human thread on GAF is so sad. Dyack has sequestered himself in a troll free thread making 30 posts. It's like he's gleefully riding the GAF-built short bus.
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Gaf posting frequency is inversely proportional to a developer's skills.
See Nostrosmo, Falafel whatever, Marty Chinn, Dyack for examples.
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Hahaha, now Arstechnica is the best. I wonder how many years of their lives the TH fanboys have lost in sheer stress over reviews in these past 12 hours. A new review on the horizon can be either a sweet moment of safety, or another sharp punch to their already inflamed e-testicles.
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I don't know if I'd trust Arstechnica on anything. Their hardware articles are often full of crap.
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I habitually do not trust critics in general. There's something about being so sure of your right and ability* to judge that you want to pursue it as a career that really bothers me.
But some create better buyers guides than others, and that's what matters. I was very disappointed after catching Eurogamers fuck-up, as I thought those guys authored some of the best "buy or avoid" articles.
*An ability that is, evidently**, not what it should be.
** See all the damned meaningless terms invented and/or overused by these clownfuckers when they reach the limit of their writing ability, or their knowledge of the medium.
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holy fuck this game is getting killed.
i think i'll even forgo renting it for now. too many good games coming out that i want to play.
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Man I forgot most games dont come in until Wednesday...
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:lol :lol
It doesnt look like its as bad as haze or lair but the guy sure is bitter. But yeah, 10 years in the making and now really bad reviews? All it needs now is it turns out to be a commercial failure and the guy will really go loco. The people @ GAF must be scared shit since he already stalked some of their members. Shame that wont happen since 360 owners buy all games no mather how bad they are.
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Haze didn't look that bad, and the demo for it actually was probably on par, if not a bit better than the Too Human one. No way is Too Human any worse than Lair...that isn't possible. It is more Untold Legends or Genji 2 quality.
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Haze didn't look that bad, and the demo for it actually was probably on par, if not a bit better than the Too Human one. No way is Too Human any worse than Lair...that isn't possible. It is more Untold Legends or Genji 2 quality.
Haze looked and played bad. AI and the guns were terrible. Anyways is TH still a trilogy?
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As one of the few people who beat Haze, I am extremely certain that Too Human is in fact better than it
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Even basic elements like an item inventory are absent. The game will happily slurp up runes and trousers called Proficient Web-Brace Greaves of Toughness by the dozen, but there's no way of stockpiling a simple health orb. Nor are there any items to counteract the various status effects that enemies inflict on you. This means that when your health is low, all you can do is plough onwards and hope that you get some health in a loot drop. If you find yourself poisoned with low health, you might as well just wait to die - there's nothing you can do. Oh, and when you die? I hope you enjoy the unskippable 30-second animation of a cyborg valkyrie descending from the sky and lifting you to Valhalla. You'll see it a lot.
ouch
that's from the Eurogamer review, btw
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Is Haze really that bad? the demo felt like Halo .5 or something. It actually made me appreciate, and even want to go play Halo 3 (which I did for that week)
I wanted to rent it.
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:lol :lol
It doesnt look like its as bad as haze or lair but the guy sure is bitter. But yeah, 10 years in the making and now really bad reviews? All it needs now is it turns out to be a commercial failure and the guy will really go loco. The people @ GAF must be scared shit since he already stalked some of their members. Shame that wont happen since 360 owners buy all games no mather how bad they are.
Who the hell are you?
Some guy from italy that you probably know
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Do you have a big cock like me? It is good being Italian
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Do you have a big cock like me? It is good being Italian
Dont know. Never seen your cock before
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:lol :lol
It doesnt look like its as bad as haze or lair but the guy sure is bitter. But yeah, 10 years in the making and now really bad reviews? All it needs now is it turns out to be a commercial failure and the guy will really go loco. The people @ GAF must be scared shit since he already stalked some of their members. Shame that wont happen since 360 owners buy all games no mather how bad they are.
Who the hell are you?
Some guy from italy that you probably know
You have the worst username I have ever seen.
Yeah so? Fuck do I care
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Do you have a big cock like me? It is good being Italian
Dont know. Never seen your cock before
Want to compare?
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Do you have a big cock like me? It is good being Italian
Dont know. Never seen your cock before
Want to compare?
Hellz yeah!
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:lol :lol
It doesnt look like its as bad as haze or lair but the guy sure is bitter. But yeah, 10 years in the making and now really bad reviews? All it needs now is it turns out to be a commercial failure and the guy will really go loco. The people @ GAF must be scared shit since he already stalked some of their members. Shame that wont happen since 360 owners buy all games no mather how bad they are.
Who the hell are you?
Some guy from italy that you probably know
Chef Boyardee? :omg
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Hellz yeah!
Are you one of those racist squirrels from the PSP commercials a few years back?
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Holy shit, a low score from TeamXbox? :lol
Someone should remind the author of NeoGAFs official Too Human thread to update the OP with review excerpts, perhaps in place of the preview stuff. It's what The Dyack would want.
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No
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It'll be mighty amusing to watch Xbots cling to Play, or something. We're already seeing claims that 6-7/10 is "good" as opposed to "crap" (never mind the fact that the current high score comes from Maxim), and I'm sure some of the Xbots will fall in line with Dyack's latest claim, that people just don't get Too Human. Perhaps it's just too hardcore? This is not their Lair or Haze, it's their Kirby Air Ride.
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:lol :lol
It doesnt look like its as bad as haze or lair but the guy sure is bitter. But yeah, 10 years in the making and now really bad reviews? All it needs now is it turns out to be a commercial failure and the guy will really go loco. The people @ GAF must be scared shit since he already stalked some of their members. Shame that wont happen since 360 owners buy all games no mather how bad they are.
Who the hell are you?
Isn't he the guy that got banned from GAF a few days ago for making a bunch of stupid posts?
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Normally, 6-7 is "good". I don't know what kind of skewed metrics you use.
Blame the critics, they are the ones that have traditionally abused it to the point where a score of 6-7 indicates mediocrity. Regardless, it's a shit score for a "high profile" game that had everything going for it.
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It'll be mighty amusing to watch Xbots cling to Play, or something. We're already seeing claims that 6-7/10 is "good" as opposed to "crap" (never mind the fact that the current high score comes from Maxim), and I'm sure some of the Xbots will fall in line with Dyack's latest claim, that people just don't get Too Human. Perhaps it's just too hardcore? This is not their Lair or Haze, it's their Kirby Air Ride.
The release of Too Human showed that Xbox fans can be as insecure and defensive as Sony fans. Reading some of the comments after the reviews trickled out were hilarious. Shit like "oh, but clearly this is a love it or hate it game, so other reviews will love it" was so bogus, even before other reviews down on the game came out.
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Fanboy metric=everything bellow 9 is crap.Even 9 is not too good,i have seen some meltdowns over MGS4 scoring 9 :lol
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Well my defense is that the guy who reviewed Too Human on GameSpot apparently gave Blue Dragon a low score too (McDragon told me this I think), so that guy's opinion is fucktarded.
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Fanboy metric=everything bellow 9 is crap.Even 9 is not too good,i have seen some meltdowns over MGS4 scoring 9 :lol
Blame the school system.
Everyone is used to the 90-100 = A, 80-90 = B, 70-80 = C, and everything below that meaning you done did bad. People can't grasp that on every review scale that 5 is the average, so 6 to 10 are all technically good scores. And by people, I also mean the stupid reviewers who apparently can't follow their own metric.
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It'll be mighty amusing to watch Xbots cling to Play, or something. We're already seeing claims that 6-7/10 is "good" as opposed to "crap" (never mind the fact that the current high score comes from Maxim), and I'm sure some of the Xbots will fall in line with Dyack's latest claim, that people just don't get Too Human. Perhaps it's just too hardcore? This is not their Lair or Haze, it's their Kirby Air Ride.
Normally, 6-7 is "good". I don't know what kind of skewed metrics you use.
But for Too Human, its bad, because it was hyped to the skies.
When you're paying $60 for a game, would you rather have something that gets 6 or 7 when there's plenty of games that get 8's and 9's out there? I'll rent a DVD that gets 6's or watch a movie that gets 6's because I might end up enjoying it, but this is a bit different.
And considering what most high profile games get these days, a 6 or 7 is low.
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It'll be mighty amusing to watch Xbots cling to Play, or something. We're already seeing claims that 6-7/10 is "good" as opposed to "crap" (never mind the fact that the current high score comes from Maxim), and I'm sure some of the Xbots will fall in line with Dyack's latest claim, that people just don't get Too Human. Perhaps it's just too hardcore? This is not their Lair or Haze, it's their Kirby Air Ride.
Normally, 6-7 is "good". I don't know what kind of skewed metrics you use.
But for Too Human, its bad, because it was hyped to the skies.
When you're paying $60 for a game, would you rather have something that gets 6 or 7 when there's plenty of games that get 8's and 9's out there? I'll rent a DVD that gets 6's or watch a movie that gets 6's because I might end up enjoying it, but this is a bit different.
And considering what most high profile games get these days, a 6 or 7 is low.
GTA4 got a meta critic of 98. 98!!!!! I paid full price for a game with super high scores and I fucking hated it.
Crackdown has a meta critic of 83 and I paid full price for it, and its the game I played the most (besides EDF) this generation by far.
Reviews scores can't dictate how I'll enjoy the game.
My problem with Too Human is the complaints people have with the game. They are things that make me realize how amateur the whole game is, so a 6.5 avg seems fitting.
but GTA4 at 9.8??
Give me a fucking break.
Don't get me wrong, if there's a game I really want I'll use take the plunge even if the reviews aren't too favorable. And I got burned on GTA4 just like a lot of other people did.
But I've been on the fence about Too Human and seeing a lot of at-best lukewarm reviews has convinced me to pass on it. Plus, I thought the demo was really bland.
I still think that on the whole games that get 8-9 are significantly better than those that get 6-7. Not all the time, certainly, but mostly so.
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That love it / hate it argument is so fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
The love/hate argument is a love it or hate it affair.
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And considering what most high profile games get these days, a 6 or 7 is low.
10= Best Ever
9= Great
8= Awesome to Decent
7= Somewhat decent, but with plenty of shit-stains
6= Shitty Shit
5= Smelly Shitty Shit
1 through 5 offers little more than a lulz & punishment range
That's how the system really works, at least among US publications/sites. Whether you agree or disagree with their judgment, that's a different matter. But the 6-7 range does in no way indicate "good"
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331932
I wonder if this means that the Official Thread will be open for trolling? :lol
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And considering what most high profile games get these days, a 6 or 7 is low.
10= Best Ever
9= Great
8= Awesome to Decent
7= Somewhat decent, but with plenty of shit-stains
6= Shitty Shit
5= Smelly Shitty Shit
1 through 5 offers little more than a lulz & punishment range
That's how the system really works, at least among US publications/sites. Whether you agree or disagree with their judgment, that's a different matter. But the 6-7 range does in no way indicate "good"
A 7 on Gamespot and Cnet still indicate that a product is good. Which is kinda dumb since we're all trained to think of 70% as the passing minimum.
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Wow, he actually banned Dyack. What a fucking loser. Dyack with the checkmate.
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It'll be mighty amusing to watch Xbots cling to Play, or something. We're already seeing claims that 6-7/10 is "good" as opposed to "crap" (never mind the fact that the current high score comes from Maxim), and I'm sure some of the Xbots will fall in line with Dyack's latest claim, that people just don't get Too Human. Perhaps it's just too hardcore? This is not their Lair or Haze, it's their Kirby Air Ride.
Some sfags were praising Lair's sixaxis controls for its realistic simulation of dragon riding! I doubt we'd ever see anything that stupid coming from Xbots.
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Wow, he actually banned Dyack. What a fucking loser. Dyack with the checkmate.
Okay, calling him out was stupid, but banning him? Christ, that's just childish.
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Before that new thread, I would say that gaf as a whole slightly had more face...but now it is all kinds of sad.
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It'll be mighty amusing to watch Xbots cling to Play, or something. We're already seeing claims that 6-7/10 is "good" as opposed to "crap" (never mind the fact that the current high score comes from Maxim), and I'm sure some of the Xbots will fall in line with Dyack's latest claim, that people just don't get Too Human. Perhaps it's just too hardcore? This is not their Lair or Haze, it's their Kirby Air Ride.
Some sfags were praising Lair's sixaxis controls for its realistic simulation of dragon riding! I doubt we'd ever see anything that stupid coming from Xbots.
Perhaps not, but on the flipside, I doubt the hardened Xbots have it in them to disown a game that so clearly deserves to be disowned. Force training, it'll be good on the 4th run! As said, Xbots have more of a Cubite thing going on, and it all smells suspiciously of Kirby Air Ride and its fans.
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That ban is almost as arbitrary as Maf banning Ichi for PMing him one too many times.
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Wow, he actually banned Dyack. What a fucking loser. Dyack with the checkmate.
Okay, calling him out was stupid, but banning him? Christ, that's just childish.
I wonder though how many GAFers would have been banned had Dyack been an admin. Seems fair to me, but also stupid. It just gives him a convenient exit.
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Dyack got banned. :lol
So how long before he becomes a regular here?
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If Dyack is reading, you are always welcome here - so I can ask you inappropriate questions
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It'll be mighty amusing to watch Xbots cling to Play, or something. We're already seeing claims that 6-7/10 is "good" as opposed to "crap" (never mind the fact that the current high score comes from Maxim), and I'm sure some of the Xbots will fall in line with Dyack's latest claim, that people just don't get Too Human. Perhaps it's just too hardcore? This is not their Lair or Haze, it's their Kirby Air Ride.
Some sfags were praising Lair's sixaxis controls for its realistic simulation of dragon riding! I doubt we'd ever see anything that stupid coming from Xbots.
Perhaps not, but on the flipside, I doubt the hardened Xbots have it in them to disown a game that so clearly deserves to be disowned. Force training, it'll be good on the 4th run! As said, Xbots have more of a Cubite thing going on, and it all smells suspiciously of Kirby Air Ride and its fans.
Yeah, it was pretty clear the game was going to be average at best. You're gonna be wasting a lot of money in this expensive hobby if you can't tell that much.
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What a douchebag. GAF officially becomes a totalitarian state. Everybody knows Dyack was a major fucktard in those GAF threads, why did Tyler have to stoop even lower
And thank Baldur that I invited Denis yesterday instead of waiting until today. Phew
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Wow, he actually banned Dyack. What a fucking loser. Dyack with the checkmate.
Okay, calling him out was stupid, but banning him? Christ, that's just childish.
I wonder though how many GAFers would have been banned had Dyack been an admin. Seems fair to me, but also stupid. It just gives him a convenient exit.
Sadly the argument on both side seems to have impulsive man-children that don't like their babies getting slandered which makes it more sad.
The banning just adds to it and as you said gives Dyack a new excuse ("see they even banned me, wha, wha, wha")
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Do your part to keep Dyack around by buying Too Human :canada
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What a douchebag. GAF officially becomes a totalitarian state. Everybody knows Dyack was a major fucktard in those GAF threads, why did Tyler have to stoop even lower
It's "funny" though, how fast people jump on the opportunity to praise the banning of others. Yeah man, you sure showed him, go the police! Banzored lulz. Not saying that Dyack hasn't done his share of stupid somersaults over there, but this group mentality of praising administrative action and subsequently its effect on debate, regardless of how lame the debate is, is just disturbing.
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I'll give Dyack one of my sock accounts... where can I contact him at
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I agree Ducky. Did you see what EL said to skip(1up podcast guy) in that thread?
a new level of sad.
As sad as several of your coworkers sitting in silence on 1up Yours for an hour of one-sided Dyack tripe, too dumbfounded to provide any sort of critical examination of his points? Hopefully not as sad as that, because then I'd be pretty embarrassed.
Major sand in vagina
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Even worse is that these idiots, the common GAFers who have been blindly flaming the game simply because that's the kind of douchebags that they are, seem to think that they won something. By their stinking, worthless trolling "efforts" and their association with a forum that likes to, you know, ban people. Remarkably, I remember when I recommended that place to another dude on the basis that it was a free forum with an administration that didn't mind heated discussion and mostly banned apparent douchebags.
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Hey look, I fit in perfectly
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337)
fucking mindless distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
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Hey look, I fit in perfectly
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337)
fucking mindless distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
Thanks for reminding me why I don't read that forum.
But I did get some laughs from seeing Sporsk still angling to be remodded. What a cigarillo.
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:lol Man I'm gonna have to make a new thread tomorrow just for the game itself at this point...
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Demi, can't you get Dyack's email from the info you've got at work? Email him directly about your admiration for him.
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Nah I got it covered, I sent him a message
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I agree Ducky. Did you see what EL said to skip(1up podcast guy) in that thread?
a new level of sad.
As sad as several of your coworkers sitting in silence on 1up Yours for an hour of one-sided Dyack tripe, too dumbfounded to provide any sort of critical examination of his points? Hopefully not as sad as that, because then I'd be pretty embarrassed.
Major sand in vagina
Yeah, that comment was just really just pathetic on so many levels.
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Wow,i knew that gaf was full of fanboy distinguished mentally-challenged fellows,but this is really new low.
Ban him,he said something bad about us,that will show him for sure :lol
Next step ban the words Dennis,Dyack,Too,Human :lol
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Dyack never should have concerned himself with what GAF thinks. Having said that, EviLore is such a baby. Grow some thicker skin, the both of you.
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Wow,i knew that gaf was full of fanboy distinguished mentally-challenged fellows,but this is really new low.
Ban him,he said something bad about us,that will show him for sure :lol
Next step ban the words Dennis,Dyack,Too,Human :lol
It goes beyond that. Yes, we accomplished something, our mindless bashing and hateful remarks really made a difference! We're The NeoGAF, and our lord has banished Him who angered us (by criticizing our nasty contributions).
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Dyack never should have concerned himself with what GAF thinks. Having said that, EviLore is such a baby. Grow some thicker skin, the both of you.
Yeah... it's not that I think Dyack is innocent here, but the group attitude in that thread is just down right disgusting. No, motherfuckers, you accomplished nothing. Having your admin exercise his "influence" by ways of banning someone isn't a great victory.
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Why do Gaffots treat Evilore like God? He can't even afford a PC 1/2 as expensive as mine.
(http://www.forgotten-gamer.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/hippolol4dv38gb.gif)
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So are there more than a handful of people at GAF who are actually trying to say this game is excellent, or is AA shadowboxing again?
Hey look, I fit in perfectly
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337)
fucking mindless distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
Thanks for reminding me why I don't read that forum.
But I did get some laughs from seeing Sporsk still angling to be remodded. What a cigarillo.
This I'll glance at GAF for, link plz
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Dyack never should have concerned himself with what GAF thinks. Having said that, EviLore is such a baby. Grow some thicker skin, the both of you.
Yeah... it's not that I think Dyack is innocent here, but the group attitude in that thread is just down right disgusting. No, motherfuckers, you accomplished nothing. Having your admin exercise his "influence" by ways of banning someone isn't a great victory.
Sort of like leppering someone isnt a great victory either...
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So are there more than a handful of people at GAF who are actually trying to say this game is excellent, or is AA shadowboxing again?
Hey look, I fit in perfectly
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452150&postcount=337)
fucking mindless distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
Thanks for reminding me why I don't read that forum.
But I did get some laughs from seeing Sporsk still angling to be remodded. What a cigarillo.
This I'll glance at GAF for, link plz
Just read all of Sporks' posts in that thread. He's brown-nosing Evilore in each post.
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oh my god.
I knew Tyler was fucking pathetic, but this just really proves it.
gonna be your quartertothree material?
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:lol
REVELATIONS ABOUND
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"Tyler is my hero."
::)
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Wow, he actually banned Dyack. What a fucking loser. Dyack with the checkmate.
I thought skip would get banned too for somewhat arguing with him there.
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Wow, he actually banned Dyack. What a fucking loser. Dyack with the checkmate.
I thought skip would get banned too for somewhat arguing with him there.
Yeah, he was realllllly close!
Imagine what banning Skip would do to 1up!
It would be the final nail in their coffin!
Then everybody at GAF would be like:
"Wooo, yeah EviLore, you're so awesome, have my babies! Skip got fuckowned, that's what he gets for having a crappy podcast. BANHAMMER! PWNED! startrek.gif"
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Wow, he actually banned Dyack. What a fucking loser. Dyack with the checkmate.
I thought skip would get banned too for somewhat arguing with him there.
Yeah, he was realllllly close!
Imagine what banning Skip would do to 1up!
It would be the final nail in their coffin!
Then everybody at GAF would be like:
"Wooo, yeah EviLore, you're so awesome, have my babies! Skip got fuckowned, that's what he gets for having a crappy podcast. PWNED! startrek.gif"
That about sums it up.
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is this eviload's revenge on the 'bore?
are all those banned going to show up here? really, the cream of the xboxxen tribe is already present. can evilbore survive the flood of xbotten-lite? do you want squatingyeti clones to incessantly agree with you? really? trying times at teh evilbore. trying times.
oh well. welcome denis and you're too shitty-shitty game. you'll like it here better, so sign-up. :elf
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is this eviload's revenge on the 'bore?
are all those banned going to show up here? really, the cream of the xboxxen tribe is already present. can evilbore survive the flood of xbotten-lite? do you want squatingyeti clones to incessantly agree with you? really? trying times at teh evilbore. trying times.
oh well. welcome denis and you're too shitty-shitty game. you'll like it here better, so sign-up. :elf
BlackStallion this account ASAP.
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I can only hope QT3 responds by banning Evilore with a similar thread.
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Snuflupagulus (i think you spelled that wrong) - Nah I doubt that will happen. Besides I doubt they will be as mental as JustinP with his Analog tirade. I'm willing to give a user a second chance to not be a fucktarded nerdlinger. You dont see Crushed acting as fucktarded as he did before. We can change you... change you
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Snuflupagulus (i think you spelled that wrong) - Nah I doubt that will happen. Besides I doubt they will be as mental as JustinP with his Analog tirade. I'm willing to give a user a second chance to not be a fucktarded nerdlinger. You dont see Crushed acting as fucktarded as he did before. We can change you... change you
oh, i'm with you :hump. just worried that lurking won't be as enjoyable as I have to separate wheat from chaff.
I'll play too human as soon as dfyb releases the LBP level. right now, i've got to make some more money for that million dollar house in Fable.
smooth groove :-*.
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It's difficult to see who is the winner or the loser here...
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It was a big win for people with IQs of less than 80, a loss for everyone higher.
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It was a big win for people with IQs of less than 80, a loss for everyone higher.
(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll15/Snuflupagulus/ForTheKids.jpg)
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Dyack wins. Even if he wants to communicate directly with GAF, he can't. How could he possibly fail this one? Er..
Note to Dyack: Do not use one of demi's alts.
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Some people I used to consider reasonable characters are cheering Evilore on. I guess it's a good thing I never bothered steering them in this direction. :(
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Is Cartman the greatest character ever? I'm inclined to agree. If only he were older.
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By virtue of GAF's admissions & membership process and TOS, it is probably the best gaming forum in terms of overall quality and breadth of discussion.
:lol :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12453430&postcount=669 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12453430&postcount=669)
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At the risk of sounding like a gaftard cheerleader. I have no problems with Dyacks banning. After that shitty interview where he shat on the entire forum why not ban him?
The Guy is a delusional twat. Should have been banned weeks ago instead of letting him shill his mediocre game in a sanitized official thread.
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I called EB and they said tomorrow... man this is going to be a long wait
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At the risk of sounding like a gaftard cheerleader. I have no problems with Dyacks banning. After that shitty interview where he shat on the entire forum why not ban him?
The Guy is a delusional twat. Should have been banned weeks ago instead of letting him shill his mediocre game in a sanitized official thread.
I'm not even questioning the ban in itself, or Evilores actions, but I am wondering where this air of righteousness among common GAFers comes from. The whole debacle started in part because GAFtards were being themselves, shitting on the game and Dyack as a person. That does not warrant them any sense of pride, or any pats on the back for a job well done. This is just the final word in debacle in which most of these twits contributed little more than baseless insults and group-minded attack patterns. Dyack may be a pompous, delusional man who has now lost it, but most of these dudes who are now celebrating this administrative action are much worse, and much less, than that.
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i see skip realized which side his podcast bread is buttered on
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At the risk of sounding like a gaftard cheerleader. I have no problems with Dyacks banning. After that shitty interview where he shat on the entire forum why not ban him?
The Guy is a delusional twat. Should have been banned weeks ago instead of letting him shill his mediocre game in a sanitized official thread.
its not the banning, but the thread made to celebrate it.
Dyak should have been banned long ago.
If i had the chance to publically call out the head of a multi million dollar company because he was being a dumbfuck on a messageboard i would certainly do it.
So would I.
banning someone so they can't argue isn't the same.
Any Dyack Banning Had to be public, if not the tards in the official thread would have found out and caused a shit storm, or Dyack hismelf would have gone on another interview and bitched about it.
On Evillores chest pumping. It all boils down to the bet that he offered Dyack that Dyack chickened out on. Had Dyack accepted i bet you wouldnt see that silly sort of self congratulating. Heck a Charity would be better off right now. But Dyack refused to accept.
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Duckman: They are anonymous forum posters, he is responsible for the jobs of 140 people, and he has chosen to spend a good chunk of his pr time, not to mention the press goodwill that until recently he enjoyed on waging a war upon a small gaming forum.
I'm not at all defending Dyack in this, just saying... these anonymous message board twits didn't win anything. They may feel like their actions have been justified and that they were right to be pond scum, but really, no. A douchebag is a still a douchebag, and these guys are definitely douchebags. Douchebags that admire stern administrative action, at that.
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I called EB and they said tomorrow... man this is going to be a long wait
try the big chain stores.
every one I called said they were getting it between 3 and 4 today.
No luck, I already reserved at EB anyway for the armor codes
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i see skip realized which side his podcast bread is buttered on
I agree that 1up has generally been very soft on Denis, especially Garnett.
i was talking about his bubububu backpedalling to evilore here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12452118&postcount=324
heh-heh, no hard feelings, "tyler" ole buddy ole pal
1up has been pandering to the gaf crowd on a douchechill level for quite some time
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i see skip realized which side his podcast bread is buttered on
iirc, skip (that's Pfister) used to be a GAF mod, too, way back.
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"we were unprepared, had we known, etc."
i call bullshit, i remember that episode of 1upyours clearly because it was so WTF i actually stopped working to pay more attention to all the raving
it's a recorded show, at any point they could have paused the recording and asked dyack to ease up on the manifesto - instead they kind of egged the dude on, with several of them offering very vocal agreement to what dyack was saying
also, they announced at the beginning of the podcast that it was going to provoke, they knew all about it
that was purely for the controversy and the download hits, and i don't believe for a second dyack hijacked the podcast
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Shanes Man Love for Dyack is just an extension of his Man love for Kojima.
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i still think dyack had a few good points on that podcast, but they were awash in the spittle of flailing loopiness
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You guys are so against Dyack. You need to check yourselves
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He has the love, you can feel it with his words. He enjoys what he does. I can respect that.
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"we were unprepared, had we known, etc."
i call bullshit, i remember that episode of 1upyours clearly because it was so WTF i actually stopped working to pay more attention to all the raving
it's a recorded show, at any point they could have paused the recording and asked dyack to ease up on the manifesto - instead they kind of egged the dude on, with several of them offering very vocal agreement to what dyack was saying
also, they announced at the beginning of the podcast that it was going to provoke, they knew all about it
that was purely for the controversy and the download hits, and i don't believe for a second dyack hijacked the podcast
The first half of the podcast was taped after the second part.
I also cut skip and others at 1up some slack considering that this is their job, their income, and part of their lives. It isn't some childish hobby where they can shit on Dyack's face in person and not face repercussion from Microsoft or some other source; they have to be reasonably diplomatic in those types of interviews. Ubisoft blacklisted them when they weren't in their favor, so they probably won't want that shit happening too much anymore.
I do think that Shane came off as a 'tard in that podcast. That podcast made it seem like Shane would dive in a puddle if it meant Dyack's cleats wouldn't get wet.
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You guys are so against Dyack. You need to check yourselves
nah, i feel sorry for the guy in a lot of ways, it's easy to get swept up in messboard douchebaggery
not interested in too human, haven't even played the demo
i don't think the guy is hitler or anything just because he made what appears to be a mediocre game and showed his ass on a forum and in a few interviews
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When you're as much of a hard worker as Dyack, a veteran to this wicked industry, you too may one day have a voice to echo others sentiments.
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(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll15/Snuflupagulus/ForTheKids.jpg)
Denis Dyack - A True Visionary
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How does Dyack give SK a bad name? Is it not those unspoken workers who create the game that gets slandered?
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i'm just saying i don't buy this "we didn't know" thing at all
you don't have to shit in someone's face to suggest to them that what they're saying may not be in their best interest
like when a friend is being a shithead in public, and you pull that friend aside and suggest that he tone it down
again, podcasts are recorded, there are no surprises
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SK is not Denis Dyak, SK is everyone that worked 60-80 hour weeks to make this game. All of that work is seemingly wasted on Denis' stunts.
Then again, Denis doesn't occupy all professions at SK. I'm sure they are happy to have him as a public catch-all, lest some of that rotten fruit might hit, say, the artist who came up with the brilliant idea of building mythological credibility by plastering everything in runes.
And I really don't think any of this has affected critical reception, at least not a noteworthy level. His rants and message board mingling aside, the game just plain doesn't seem very good. So in that sense, I guess Dyack is a fitting captain for this doomed ship.
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(http://i36.tinypic.com/fxf8s1.gif)
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Someone in my list is playing Too Human.... a Canadian
DO WANT... envy
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I'm surprised that Evilore actually linked to this article (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3167513) in his thread:
The thing everyone's really looking for (and this is where the bloodshed comes in) is a scandal, a batch of bad screenshots to joyously tear apart or a misspoken, out-of-context quote from an industry VIP ragging on the competition. Like chum in a shark tank, these occasional events can provoke impromptu swarms of violence, page upon page of whining, yelling, and piss taking, usually to comic effect.
better ban 1up evilore
oh wait he banned me for two days when i posted a thread about it, because facetiously quoting that in the thread title was apparently some kind of evil plot of mine to "stir up anger" even though nobody took it seriously
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Man...what a disaster.
If you want to ban him - fine.
If you want to make a thread saying you banned him - fine.
But, the self-congratulatory length Evilore went to publically stone him is ridiculous.
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I agree with drohne in that the fat jokes should be allowed to come back. Those stupid Nintendo fans ruined things for everyone, just like they're ruining gaming.
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Nintendo fans get unfairly blamed for that.
Sony fans ruined it with their Gabe Newell jokes AFTER the Twilight Princess Gerstman fiasco. But nobody blames Sony Fans.
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I agree with drohne in that the fat jokes should be allowed to come back. Those stupid Nintendo fans ruined things for everyone, just like they're ruining gaming.
If you can't ridicule fatties, then whom can you ridicule?
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Nintendo fans get unfairly blamed for that.
Sony fans ruined it with their Gabe Newell jokes AFTER the Twilight Princess Gerstman fiasco. But nobody blames Sony Fans.
They all helped out in the random railing against someone for arbitrary reasons not relating to the product or anything we are reviewing.
Although in Gerstmann's case, calling him fat was actually a valid point to bring up. The guy docked the game because you had to move your hand, but then the Gamecube review was still less than the Wii review...what?
And then this:
[youtube=425,350]mWtwxLlzvw8[/youtube]
WHAT
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Shouldn't this go to the Outside Link Thread?
smh
Relax, I got it taken care of
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that video is awesome
that's how i play wii games
fuck getting off the couch
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Ryan Davis :heartbeat
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I agree with drohne in that the fat jokes should be allowed to come back. Those stupid Nintendo fans ruined things for everyone, just like they're ruining gaming.
If you can't ridicule fatties, then whom can you ridicule?
Nintendo fans.
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that video is awesome
that's how i play wii games
fuck getting off the couch
So do I for the most part, but how you gonna compare it to real golf when you are sitting on a damn sofa? that doesn't work.
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It's not all too difficult to get disgusted at this forum angry mob mentality. I have seen this too often lately, and frankly, i think it sucks.
Especially when directed against people who have been in the industry since forever.
I remember when :bow JEFF MINTER :bow2 complained in his blog about the fact, that Frogger sold more than Space Giraffe, and a million little cockboys who haven't been even born at the time Minter was already GOD took this as a chance to piss on his name and legacy.
It's like nothing's holy anymore.
Yeah, i am an old fart complaining here, but well, what gives...
I agree that Dyack took this to an extreme, and probably deserved some flak for his displayed intellectual arrogance, but he is still onehundred times the man than those anonymous cocksuckers hiding behind their names could ever hope to be.
And now they are having a circle jerk about how they have shown him...Those manly men...
::)
... honestly...
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I agree with drohne in that the fat jokes should be allowed to come back. Those stupid Nintendo fans ruined things for everyone, just like they're ruining gaming.
DUDE
MAKE IT SO
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Haha, Jaffe chiming in... what a riot
Hey guys did you forget that his team didnt like him either and publically called him out on it? Did you not see he left his job at Sony? Did you not see that he got plump and started smoking weed? Hey why not tell some other people to fuck their mothers loose cunt, Jaffe.
Morons
Sorry had to post that.
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I agree with drohne in that the fat jokes should be allowed to come back. Those stupid Nintendo fans ruined things for everyone, just like they're ruining gaming.
DUDE
MAKE IT SO
I'm doing what I can!
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i weep for the internet
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Not to start anything, but
"I mean, I always answer questions about them and correct people if they have some info on our games that is not correct, but I don't look at Neogaf as a PR tool." -Jaffe
Jaffe has as far as I know not always been honest about what has happened to his games, so it'd seem to me that him going around correcting people and telling people what's what, not always in absolute honesty, would fall under using NeoGAF as a PR tool.
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http://toohuman.net/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&func=view&id=68469&catid=2#68469
:lol
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It's not all too difficult to get disgusted at this forum angry mob mentality. I have seen this too often lately, and frankly, i think it sucks.
Especially when directed against people who have been in the industry since forever.
I remember when :bow JEFF MINTER :bow2 complained in his blog about the fact, that Frogger sold more than Space Giraffe, and a million little cockboys who haven't been even born at the time Minter was already GOD took this as a chance to piss on his name and legacy.
It's like nothing's holy anymore.
Yeah, i am an old fart complaining here, but well, what gives...
I agree that Dyack took this to an extreme, and probably deserved some flak for his displayed intellectual arrogance, but he is still onehundred times the man than those anonymous cocksuckers hiding behind their names could ever hope to be.
And now they are having a circle jerk about how they have shown him...Those manly men...
::)
... honestly...
Agree 100%
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There was nothing to elicit a lol in that thread, Laharl... you lame
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I know, I just let you keep your pride
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you know it'd be funny if evilore actually played too human and it turned out that he really liked it
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There was nothing to elicit a lol in that thread, Laharl... you lame
i'm sorry you didn't find the "they just lost one of the best hooks they had" amusing. :(
you know it'd be funny if evilore actually played too human and it turned out that he really liked it
how would anyone ever find out if he liked it? truth serum injection?
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Someone should make a thread titled, "Too Human review thread of scoring the same as Turok (BIISH)"
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There was nothing to elicit a lol in that thread, Laharl... you lame
i'm sorry you didn't find the "they just lost one of the best hooks they had" amusing. :(
I didn't see anything wrong with that. When your name (NeoGAF) is plastered all over the internet, people will look. When have you seen something like this propagate in a huge manner?
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If GAF is bringing back the fat jokes I want the gay jokes back too. Sick of everyone being all offended by stupid stuff.
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Today, 04:46 PM: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12455622&postcount=1101
Today, 04:48 PM: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12455642&postcount=1103
Come on, it's sort of funny.
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I chuckled.
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Oh my god, it's actually written by Paladino. :lol
Someone should ask them if they wouldn't prefer if he just came in there to gush about it.
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The other posters are just ignoring mifune's comment. :lol
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paladino used to be pretty funny on the video game show podcast
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The other posters are just ignoring mifune's comment. :lol
This fails to surprise me. I guess if you can't get good reviews to slaver over, you might as well go read some totally honest impressions from Microsoft PR dudes.
You'd think the obvious PR stuff like "Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts ... Pre-Order Today!" or "Too Human - Get it! Got it? Good!" would have tipped them off. But hey, better hype through force denial.
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well, to be fair, paladino has always presented himself as community pr on gaf from what i recall
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As opposed to the Insomniac dude rite duck.
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And the dude who works for an advertising company who makes professional threads for Killzone, Resistance, and MGS4.
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well, to be fair, paladino has always presented himself as community pr on gaf from what i recall
For sure. I'm not saying anything about the source, but it's comical that it's being quoted as, you know, just some game impressions from some dude.
As opposed to the Insomniac dude rite duck.
Stevenson? He posts in the form of an Insomniac community manager, a bit like when Frankie posted about Bungie related stuff. If either of those posted their game impressions on a blog and people actually quoted these impressions as, you know, just some impressions from some dudes, then it'd be funny too. But that has, as far as I know, not occurred. You guys suck at this.
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Btw demi, I was wrong. the big chains are only getting it tomorrow it seems.
I called my BB last night and they said it would be in by 10 this morning. I went at 3:30 and those distinguished retail fellows said that it doesn't get in until tomorrow at 2. :maf :maf :maf
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using microsoft pr to counterbalance the negative reviews is honestly a step up from using russian maxim
not just maxim
not just a russian publication
but RUSSIAN MAXIM
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Someone should post a gif of like evillore as the 300 dude kicking dyack as the persian down the hole!!! omg so aweomse!!! Wooooooooooowoooooo neogaf motherfucker!!!!
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Did Dyack even break the ToS at all?
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Doesn't anyone care about St. Catharines' economy? :cancry
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by not buying too human i am not only striking a blow against shit games but helping provide young canadian engineers with the impetus to leave their miserable provincial backwaters :american
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Maybe someone else already raised this question, but:
Does anyone think Dyack might not have been banned if Too Human turned out to be a critical success? I mean, banning a guy who hates you and makes mediocre games is pretty easy. But what if those early reviews had been more positive?
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seems pretty clear that the ban was set in motion by that 'worst forum ever' interview, which was presumably conducted before the reviews came in
but if too human was a critical success it probably wouldn't be such a shit game, and if it wasn't a shit game mark mcdonald wouldn't have written that e3 06 preview, and that preview seems to have given dyack's teetering mental health a decisive push -- so in a roundabout way you're right
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seems pretty clear that the ban was set in motion by that 'worst forum ever' interview, which was presumably conducted before the reviews came in
but if too human was a critical success it probably wouldn't be such a shit game, and if it wasn't a shit game mark mcdonald wouldn't have written that e3 06 preview, and that preview seems to have given dyack's teetering mental health a decisive push -- so in a roundabout way you're right
True. I guess I just don't see Malka (or any of the GAF mods) banning a developer who makes games the majority of the board likes.
The one thing that gives those guys - and most of the community there - a full, raging hard-on is the idea that developers and publishers give a shit what they say and visit the site.
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Remember that thread Evilore made about the evil of groupthink at GAF? :lol
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Its so fucking sad that G4 is reporting on this. :lol What else can be said about the channel that has Ninja Warrior, Cheaters, and Hurl
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The one thing that gives those guys - and most of the community there - a full, raging hard-on is the idea that developers and publishers give a shit what they say and visit the site.
How true. Sadly, for those delusional posters, few relevant devs or publishers really give a crap about that forum. I'm sure quite a few famous industry people sometimes post there to pass some free time but the majority of them are nobodies like the small time Sony devs that try to come off as being smarter than John Carmak and Gabe Newell.
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Its so fucking sad that G4 is reporting on this. :lol What else can be said about the channel that has Ninja Warrior, Cheaters, and Hurl
You're joking, right? this isn't actually on TV...that would just be wrong.
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A lot of devs I know used to read GAF (mainly before the full NPD was cut off), but it seems Kotaku actually garners the most dev hits.
I could believe that but I doubt few of them take those GAF jokers seriously. Or at least they shouldn't.
All the devs I've seen on GAF that've engaged in serious discussion should have spent more time on their shitty games instead of posting.
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A lot of devs I know used to read GAF
it's weird that a whole slew have stopped huh?
like there was some event that tipped everyone over the edge.
Bowing down to the NPD masters and their Attorney Armies does that.
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Dyack really is a fucking idiot. He doesn't have to take that crap.
Look at CliffyB for example. I've seen him popped in a few times but he never bothers arguing with the fanboys that nitpick his game to death.
Why bother when you're already at where those fuckers dream they would be?
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Dyack really is a fucking idiot. He doesn't have to take that crap.
Look at CliffyB for example. I've seen him popped in a few times but he never bothers arguing with the fanboys that nitpick his game to death.
Why bother when you're already at where those fuckers dream they would be?
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2rniryp.jpg)
put up or shut up.
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Why bother when you're already at where those fuckers dream they would be?
yup, responding and arguing it out is going to do nothing. once someone has decided you are a douche and your game is shit, how on earth do you reverse that ?!
Devs should know better and just stay above this.
:bow Xfag Emperor :bow2
I bet your salary is 10x more than the Gaf Emperor will ever make.
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A lot of devs I know used to read GAF
it's weird that a whole slew have stopped huh?
like there was some event that tipped everyone over the edge.
It was npd, that and the forum generally went to shit after they started to act self important.
Uh, EXCUSE ME, but according to the Venerable Owninator of Epic Win Evilore, LOTS of devs are still around.
They just don't want to post openly because of how stupid YOU all are, they don't want to be hassled by your dumbness.*
*Yes, he actually said something along these lines, that tons of important devs were still registering in SECRET. :shh
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EB don't let me down with your brutal honesty.
On a scale of 1 to 10 with one being shit and ten being really, really shitty where does Too Human rank?
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I know of at least three cases of people getting fucked over pretty bad for posting at GAF. :'(
damn...
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can we get names/companies/hints? ;)
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I know of at least three cases of people getting fucked over pretty bad for posting at GAF. :'(
Damn that is awful. :'(
Did they let the cat out of the bag or something?
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"It is a love or hate game."
My ass. The highest praise the game has gotten is "not bad"; not a single "serious" critic, not even the most Dyack-friendly among them, has managed to express "love" for the game. Not sure about "hate," either, but it's evidently not a very polarizing experience.
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Yeah, this 'love it/hate it game' shit is really stupid.
The only times when it kinda works is when talking about a very specific genre, which Too Human isn't. It would work for some obscure Japanese game, or a survival horror game, or other things like that.
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EB don't let me down with your brutal honesty.
On a scale of 1 to 10 with one being shit and ten being really, really shitty where does Too Human rank?
7.7
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I know a guy from Blue Castle used to post at Gaf, and one of the guys from Tiger Hill posted there
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This easily the best defense of Too Human I have seen on gaf:
Since when did 3/5 = 6/10?
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I think this is the worst wait I've had to endure for a game... COME ON ALREADY
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:lol :lol :lol
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This easily the best defense of Too Human I have seen on gaf:
Since when did 3/5 = 6/10?
:rofl
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Brilliant
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This easily the best defense of Too Human I have seen on gaf:
Since when did 3/5 = 6/10?
Maths are hard. :'(
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12459246&postcount=1603 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12459246&postcount=1603)
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3 out of 5
6 out of 10
Nope, not seeing the connection.
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He was talking about 5 point review scales versus 10 point review scales.
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He was talking about 5 point review scales versus 10 point review scales.
And at what point do the lulz stop?
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He was talking about 5 point review scales versus 10 point review scales.
And at what point do the lulz stop?
I'm not sure you quite grasp the seriousness of what transpired, nor the necessity for a representative of neoGAF to respond.
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I still can't entirely see why scaling enemies is a horrifyingly bad design-decision for a dungeon hack-n-slash game, but given my inexperience with the genre I guess I can't do much but defer to the experts around here. WoW's Heroic Dungeons (which scaled leveling dungeons into max-level dungeons with better loot) only improved the game, IMO. So long as the loot and difficulty scales upward, why should old content be made obsolete by leveling? I can understand how scaling might fuck up a game like Oblivion, because then it's difficult just to navigate even the newbie zones in the overworld without running into monsters that you have to stop and kill. But if only the instances scale (as in Too Human or WoW), I don't really see the problem.
Anyhow, here's an SK designer to talk about how the scaling works. Enemies scale to your level, but this does not take into account your gear and enchants:
http://toohuman.net/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=28&func=view&id=69557&catid=2
- Your level (levels in coop) determine the "spread" of the enemy's levels that will spawn. You will often be fighting enemies below, at, and above your level.
- Levels are pretty much base stats for you and the enemies. You can use all of the game's bonuses to go beyond that base. So for example, the Bioengineer can not 1hit kill a Melee Goblin of the same level (without a crit) at level 1 (if of course these are the stats/skills you want to focus on). You can easily power-up/loot your bioengineer enough to 1hit kill Melee Goblins of your same level at later/higher levels in the game.
- XP in coop is essentially split, with a reasonable cap for the lower level player. There's potential to level a bit faster like this but nothing of "power leveling" type. Do expect a pretty strong challenge if you're of much lower level though.
- At level 50 you will incredibly powerful, but the enemy tactics will alter along the way to keep them challenging. Here are some examples of evolving tactics:
- Enemies will not circle you as long and go if for attack much faster at higher levels.
- Enemies will have a greater chance of being a polarity, the higher their level is.
- Telegraphs (pauses before their attacks) will be decreased, making them more ravenous.
- Enemies will come in bigger packs, and more will attack you at once.
- Missile Goblins will fire more missiles, that are more accurate, and travel faster.
These are just some examples.
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He was talking about 5 point review scales versus 10 point review scales.
And at what point do the lulz stop?
I'm not sure you quite grasp the seriousness of what transpired, nor the necessity for a representative of neoGAF to respond.
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=6017.msg615322#msg615322
What the fuck man.
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He was talking about 5 point review scales versus 10 point review scales.
And at what point do the lulz stop?
I'm not sure you quite grasp the seriousness of what transpired, nor the necessity for a representative of neoGAF to respond.
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=6017.msg615322#msg615322
What the fuck man.
It was the first post I read when I clicked on that thread. The serious tone of that post just made me ROFL.
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I'm not sure you quite grasp the seriousness of what transpired, nor the necessity for a representative of neoGAF to respond.
I saw that post too, and was immediately struck with a migraine.
I'm toying with writing up a piece on GAF for the blog I work for... if anyone has dirt to dish, pm me.
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pretty lame for neogaf to ban dyack. not unexpected though.
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Nah you shouldnt bother with that, it will probably get you censored... or banned
lol
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If you are even just a little bit in the spotlight, posting on a forum is just a very bad idea. You can only try to suck everybodies balls or at least avoid stepping on anybodies toes like your life depends on it (like Jaffe is doing on Gaf for instance).
You have to stay diplomatic at all times, yet those unwashed hordes of internet forum monkeys can throw whatever feces they desire at your head.
It's a lose-lose situation for the devs...
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If you are even just a little bit in the spotlight, posting on a forum is just a very bad idea. You can only try to suck everybodies balls or at least avoid stepping on anybodies toes like your life depends on it (like Jaffe is doing on Gaf for instance).
You have to stay diplomatic at all times, yet those unwashed hordes of internet forum monkeys can throw whatever feces they desire at your head.
It's a lose-lose situation for the devs...
What the fuck?
A lot of developers do fine on GAF but Dyack made many mistakes:
- Treated trolling as a serious call out to his game, causing him to act like a batshit nutter.
- Never talked about anything other than his own stuff. Other developers will at least talk about things other than their own games. Dyack did not do this. He amounts to nothing more than a shill. Only twist is that he developed the games so he isn't like some random Sfag. Still, if you look at his post history, all of his posts are about his games.
- Acted like a general douche. If it was anyone other than Dyack, they would have been banned long ago.
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That guy has to be a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
he isnt, hes one of my best friends in real life, and he was clearly talking about point scales
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If you are even just a little bit in the spotlight, posting on a forum is just a very bad idea. You can only try to suck everybodies balls or at least avoid stepping on anybodies toes like your life depends on it (like Jaffe is doing on Gaf for instance).
You have to stay diplomatic at all times, yet those unwashed hordes of internet forum monkeys can throw whatever feces they desire at your head.
It's a lose-lose situation for the devs...
What the fuck?
A lot of developers do fine on GAF but Dyack made many mistakes:
- Treated trolling as a serious call out to his game, causing him to act like a batshit nutter.
- Never talked about anything other than his own stuff. Other developers will at least talk about things other than their own games. Dyack did not do this. He amounts to nothing more than a shill. Only twist is that he developed the games so he isn't like some random Sfag. Still, if you look at his post history, all of his posts are about his games.
- Acted like a general douche. If it was anyone other than Dyack, they would have been banned long ago.
I wasn't writing about Dyack in my post. I think you are right about that his approach was counterproductive...
My post was just a general observation...It's a very bad idea to post on a forum as a "celebrity", because either you try to please the "horde hive mind", or you are lost. I have seen it's couple of times in other places as well.
If you think you are on even terms as a known person with a bunch of anonymous people on a forum you clearly have no experience. There will be always some people testing you and your nerves, and some small cocksuckers who want to play big by shooting you down...
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That guy has to be a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.
he isnt, hes one of my best friends in real life, and he was clearly talking about point scales
He could have worded it a lot better, and that is coming from an illiterate bastard like myself.
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He was talking about 5 point review scales versus 10 point review scales.
And at what point do the lulz stop?
I'm not sure you quite grasp the seriousness of what transpired, nor the necessity for a representative of neoGAF to respond.
???wut
Does 3/5 not translate to 6/10?? That is what I was laughing about anyway.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332081
GAF shitting on Dave Perry (Earthworm Jim, MDK) now.
Wonder how much chance he would stand if he posted now in that thread.. ::)
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He was talking about 5 point review scales versus 10 point review scales.
And at what point do the lulz stop?
I'm not sure you quite grasp the seriousness of what transpired, nor the necessity for a representative of neoGAF to respond.
???wut
Does 3/5 not translate to 6/10?? That is what I was laughing about anyway.
I just wanted to use that quote, lol.
And, no, 3/5 does not translate to 6/10. A 3/5 stars film, hotel, or restaurant is universally accepted as being good while 6/10 is considered a D by most standards.
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And, no, 3/5 does not translate to 6/10. A 3/5 stars film, hotel, or restaurant is universally accepted as being good while 6/10 is considered a D by most standards.
This is a slight of hand. Because critics are not afraid to use zeros and ones, hotel and film ratings tend to vary a lot more than videogame ratings. Thus a three star hotel will be stylish, comfortable and clean and most three star movies will still be enjoyable. But most videogames that are 3 star equivalents (or 60%) are shit.
Videogame reviews do not effectively use the entire rating system. As an example, out of the 112 average scores for 2008 Xbox 360 releases on metacritic, only 12 are rated under 50%. The median aggregate score is 72.476%!