I still haven't played the new one, despite cumming over it once it was revealed. God dammitYou played OOT, right? It's basically the same thing.
I still haven't played the new one, despite cumming over it once it was revealed. God dammit
Majora's Mask is amazing. OoT is horrendous, WW is average and Twilight Princess is the worst 3D Zelda ever. Minish Cap is the only good 2D Zelda.
spoiler (click to show/hide)OOT > TP > MM (never played wind waker)[close]
If you want to shit on a 3d nintendo game, please shit on metroid prime and mario 64.
MM > WW > OOT > TP
Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.
Christ no. Metroid Prime is fucking terrible. mario 64 is merely overrated, but nowhere near the excrement of Prime. Please leper yourself.
and if you shit on Super Mario 64 you obviously didn't play it in it's day
and if you shit on Super Mario 64 you obviously didn't play it in it's dayNo, I'm pretty sure I played it the day it came out, and I was crushed it was so mediocre after the snes marios. I care for maybe 2 3d platformers, and none of them are Mario 64.
Since there's a lot of lepering going on in this thread anyway:
MM > WW > OOT > TP
Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.
for 2d:
alundra > oracles > links awakening > landstalker > og zelda > link to the past >>>>>>>>> zelda 2
/me shines his 120 star save file that you don't have
Diddy Kong Racing > Turok > Goldeneye > Shadows of the Empire > Starfox 64 (w/ friends :hyper) > Pilotwings 64 > Super Mario 64 > OOT > MM > Alien > Aliens
That the worst list of videogames I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen Himuro's rpg rankings.
how anyone can defend OoT in this day and age is beyond me. Most overrated game ever. It wouldnt even be that bad if the was game just mediocre, but its easily the biggest piece of shit released in the 1990's
PS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>N64
FFVII-IXaka the worst FF games.
MM > WW > OOT > TP
Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.
for 2d:
alundra > oracles > links awakening > landstalker > og zelda > link to the past >>>>>>>>> zelda 2
Landstalker recommendation? :bow
Makes me want to play it now... but I dont' think I have the finger dexterity of my childhood days :'(
3D Zelda > 2D Zelda
3D Metroid > 2D Metroid
2D Mario > 3D Mario
Oh and SMB3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SMW.
Real talk.
2D everything was better.
I liked OoT, though.
A lot of 2d games are overrated. Especially Zelda games. And I love Zelda.I could understand that sentiment in regards to Link's Awakening, but LttP?
A lot of 2d games are overrated. Especially Zelda games. And I love Zelda.I could understand that sentiment in regards to Link's Awakening, but LttP?
I'm probably in the distinguished mentally-challenged minority that actually enjoyed zelda II. :'( game kept me company through many a summer day
how anyone can defend OoT in this day and age is beyond me. Most overrated game ever. It wouldnt even be that bad if the was game just mediocre, but its easily the biggest piece of shit released in the 1990's
PS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>N64
Zelda 2 is great. I never understood why it got such a bad rep other than the fact that it was different. Phantom Hourglass is the worst Zelda game by-far. I still enjoyed it, but I'm hoping Nintendo lets Capcom make the next DS Zelda. lol at the importers saying it was the best Zelda game
MM > WW > OOT > TP
Although TP may be slightly better than OoT if you take out the nostalgia factor.
agreed, except for the zelda part.
I think Metroid Prime 1 is my favorite Nintendo game from the N64, GC, and Wii.
edit: wouldn't put SMB3 that far ahead SMW.
I liked Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time.Word.
But my favorite will always be Link to the Past.
well, doye
anything N64 is unplayable in 2008
wow this....this thread
it's like everything that is wroong in the world broiled together, garnished with turd, sprinkled with shit, and put in forum thread formatspoiler (click to show/hide)and yet im posting here :/[close]
actually oblivion is the closest to getting it right
I just don't see anything brilliant in OoT that wasn't already in past Zeldas. It's a straight up conversion of 2D Zelda to me, with no frills. Very basic design, though not flawed in any way other than it's blandness (along with some minor annoyances.) That goes for most Zeldas though--they aren't particularly deep games, though occasionally a puzzle will be tough to figure out.
I just don't see anything brilliant in OoT that wasn't already in past Zeldas. It's a straight up conversion of 2D Zelda to me, with no frills. Very basic design, though not flawed in any way other than it's blandness (along with some minor annoyances.) That goes for most Zeldas though--they aren't particularly deep games, though occasionally a puzzle will be tough to figure out.
I just don't see anything brilliant in OoT that wasn't already in past Zeldas. It's a straight up conversion of 2D Zelda to me, with no frills. Very basic design, though not flawed in any way other than it's blandness (along with some minor annoyances.) That goes for most Zeldas though--they aren't particularly deep games, though occasionally a puzzle will be tough to figure out.
See the problem with what you're saying -that OoT is like the previous 2D Zeldas (namely LttP), except it's just in widdle ole 3D- is like saying Film is just like T.V. except bigger. So what if they have the same basic overall design? The experiences are vastly different. The extremely irritating thing about internet wide jaded opinions like this is that people think that it's simply a matter of taking a few lines of code and inputting it into a magical 2D -> 3D converting computer and presto. The reason the damn game was a big deal in the first place was because they succeeded making that transition (yes, I know not everyone loves it, obviously, but very few made a big deal out of it). Otherwise, something like Sonic 360 would be lauded to this day. Nintendo wasn't trying to fool anyone by thinking they could pull a fast one by using the LttP template. They even stated that shit before the game was released. The game brought many new staples to the 3D series, such as Z-targeting. I mean, Christ, you certainly don't have to like it and hell, are more than free to hate it or any other game as much as you want. But you can still acknowledge what it's accomplished as well.
I just don't see anything brilliant in OoT that wasn't already in past Zeldas. It's a straight up conversion of 2D Zelda to me, with no frills. Very basic design, though not flawed in any way other than it's blandness (along with some minor annoyances.) That goes for most Zeldas though--they aren't particularly deep games, though occasionally a puzzle will be tough to figure out.
My opinion isn't "jaded." it's just an opinion from today's point of view. it's not like I don't understand why the game is important.
That said, I think your analogy about film + tv is off--those are media outlets, games are units of the gaming medium. I acknowledge it's 2D to 3D transition accomplishments and how it's a "historic" event. I like MP1 for the same reasons. I just find OoT to be very bland and no Zelda since then has rectified the situation for me...new items, new alternate worlds, but they come off as analogous to anything in a past Zelda game. Also, though it's a good transition, I don't think it's the perfect 2D to 3D transition...they are lifeless compared to the 2D games, more stylized. The overworlds in particular are not enticing. Combat is significantly easier. There are things lost in translation.
also, please calm down and use paragraphs. :lol I don't hate zelda, they're good games, but I think the series is pretty washed up.