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Title: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 09, 2008, 05:19:05 PM
Is it just me here?  This is the one Wii release I wish was on another system (the other was Tenchu 4, but that is coming to PSP in February), then it would probably have online play.  But I am still pumped!  My copy is supposed to arrive tomorrow.

Probably gonna have to play it on an old composite-only Samsung 13" SDTV though.  THANKS FOR MAKING A SYSTEM THAT LOOKS SHITTY ON MY BRAND NEW MONITOR, NINTENDO!   :'(
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: cool breeze on December 09, 2008, 05:30:27 PM
I played the order to NCSX, so hopefully it's here soon.  They gave me Gundam vs Gundam fast.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: drohne on December 09, 2008, 05:37:14 PM
would've downloaded it if i still had my wii. not really a huge vs fan anyway, and i'm not familiar with any of those tatsunoko characters
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 09, 2008, 05:38:46 PM
Hopefully in time it will be an XBLA and PSN release
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 09, 2008, 05:44:57 PM
God this is the only Wii game I'm jealous of not getting! what control schemes does it support?

To answer your question if I had a Wii I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

the other was Tenchu 4, but that is coming to PSP in February

really? REALLY?

when was this announced?

A couple weeks ago in Famitsu.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 09, 2008, 05:50:45 PM
Hopefully in time it will be an XBLA and PSN release

lol
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 09, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
If the wii was region free I'd be all over Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom like it was an easy fuck.

Talking about your mom?  That's sick.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: cool breeze on December 09, 2008, 06:00:19 PM
If the wii was region free I'd be all over Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom like it was an easy fuck.

it's pretty easy to make region free if you have twilight princess
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on December 09, 2008, 06:04:18 PM
wait wait wait

Wii only?

wow, such fucking fail
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2008, 06:08:45 PM
I'll pick it up in a few week when I'm in Japan.  I pick up almost all the fighters and play them with my 1 fighting game friend.  Unfortunately most fighting games have been iffy in the last 4-5 years, so I'm wary of a 3 button Wii-audience vs. fighter.  But I do like me some Viewtiful Joe and Lost Planet mech, so I'll give it a shot.

Hey Lyte, one of the things I don't like about the videos are that it looks like every character has the same combo chain.  Like everyone juggles and does this generic air combo ending with a super.  Are the character combos more varied in the real game?  I really don't want a shallow 3-button fighter :(

Also I'm not shelling out extra $$$ for a Wii joystick I'll never use again.  So I'll have to enjoy playing a fighting game on the Wiimote @_@

wait wait wait

Wii only?

wow, such fucking fail

Yeah.  If it was on the PS3/X360 or even PS2 maybe it could have had 6 buttons like a normal fighter!  Or even 4 would be a little better (jab/fierce, short/roundhouse).  3 just seems sooooo wrong for a capcom fighter.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 09, 2008, 06:35:27 PM
God this is the only Wii game I'm jealous of not getting! what control schemes does it support?

To answer your question if I had a Wii I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

the other was Tenchu 4, but that is coming to PSP in February

really? REALLY?

when was this announced?

Famitsu confirmed it a little while back, but it was said to be coming right alongside the Wii version for a while now.  The PSP port looks pretty good, too.

If the wii was region free I'd be all over Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom like it was an easy fuck.

Talking about your mom?  That's sick.

PLEASE try to avoid making OT-thread-derailing comments like this one. 

wait wait wait

Wii only?

wow, such fucking fail

Yeah.    :-\  On the flipside, it DOES look great (the art style used is SUPERB-- I like the backgrounds more than anything in SF4), and runs at 16:9 and in 480p at least, but you can't help but wonder how much better it would look on superior hardware.  The game also just hit Japanese arcades and runs on a Wii-compatible arcade board.  I guess Capcom figured the added minigames and Tatsunoko characters would be a good fit for the Wii audience.  My theory is that we'll see this game on other platforms (if not next-gen, then PS2) at some point in the future.  This IS Capcom, after all!

I'll pick it up in a few week when I'm in Japan.  I pick up almost all the fighters and play them with my 1 fighting game friend.  Unfortunately most fighting games have been iffy in the last 4-5 years, so I'm wary of a 3 button Wii-audience vs. fighter.  But I do like me some Viewtiful Joe and Lost Planet mech, so I'll give it a shot.

Hey Lyte, one of the things I don't like about the videos are that it looks like every character has the same combo chain.  Like everyone juggles and does this generic air combo ending with a super.  Are the character combos more varied in the real game?  I really don't want a shallow 3-button fighter :(

Also I'm not shelling out extra $$$ for a Wii joystick I'll never use again.  So I'll have to enjoy playing a fighting game on the Wiimote @_@

I know about as much as this game as you do, Bebpo.  I am guessing the combos you are talking about are the baroque combos?  I have faith in Capcom; even their most fucked up and broken fighters still have enough depth.  This being an arcade game as well also bodes well for longevity.  We'll see.  Frankly I am more excited about this than I am for SF4 (home version).  At least this game has NEW characters.  And the arcade version should have all the characters that the Wii version has.  Another plus, unlike SF4 which in its current state now feels like a beta version, roster-wise.  I don't mean to go off on a rant, but I am really disappointed in both Capcom and SNK for using so many old characters in SF4 and now KOF XII, which has ZERO new characters.  WTF?  Sure it looks better than the previous games, but I can play KOF '98 Ultimate Match NOW, with plenty of new moves, added characters, and tweaks.  So fucked up.

Yeah.  If it was on the PS3/X360 or even PS2 maybe it could have had 6 buttons like a normal fighter!  Or even 4 would be a little better (jab/fierce, short/roundhouse).  3 just seems sooooo wrong for a capcom fighter.

It IS four IIRC; three attack and one assist button.  But this is not something to get up in arms over.  Capcom has made three-button fighters before (remember JoJo's?), and then the last Vs. game had four attack buttons.  Never mind the 3D fighters that make use of two attack buttons just fine.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 09, 2008, 06:43:06 PM
I'm waiting for a PS3 or 360 port.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 09, 2008, 06:51:05 PM
I'm waiting for a PS3 or 360 port.

Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Purple Filth on December 09, 2008, 06:51:56 PM
the one game i would hack the wii for.

or just wait on a ps3/360 version
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 09, 2008, 08:10:40 PM
Intro video (all animated)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHieD8iQJs8

Training mode video (kinda crappy; if you liked Roll's BGM in MvC1, skip to 3:15 in!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmo4LewtwE4

Mini games (these are up to 4P, for the Wii crowd)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEElCPMnm5Y
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Eric P on December 09, 2008, 08:12:10 PM
nostalgia bomb!

70s anime!
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 09, 2008, 09:50:38 PM
I would buy it with ferocity were it not a flipping import.
there's been some really vague rumors about a stateside release, but with the liscensing tie ups I just don't see it happening.  I'm hoping for a region free PS3 version in the future, but then again I was hoping for region free PS3 versions of Otomodious, Cave shooters, and other awesome stuff in general that haven't materialized yet.  So all this makes me a sad panda.

and also the arcade version had a four button control scheme (weak, medium, strong, tag), so I'm not worried about TvC being watered down for the Wii.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 09, 2008, 10:20:31 PM
and also the arcade version had a four button control scheme (weak, medium, strong, tag), so I'm not worried about TvC being watered down for the Wii.

But the arcade game was made with the Wii in mind.  I still don't count it as a 4 button fighter just because you have a tag button instead of say "hit 2 buttons" to tag.  I don't really understand how a non-separation of punches and kicks can work, but I will judge for myself.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 02:40:46 AM
and also the arcade version had a four button control scheme (weak, medium, strong, tag), so I'm not worried about TvC being watered down for the Wii.

But the arcade game was made with the Wii in mind.  I still don't count it as a 4 button fighter just because you have a tag button instead of say "hit 2 buttons" to tag.  I don't really understand how a non-separation of punches and kicks can work, but I will judge for myself.

Light, medium, and hard attacks.  Alternatively, a punch, kick, and power attack a la Real Bout.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 02:45:36 AM
So all punches are light attacks?  All kicks are medium attacks?  And a SS/RB power attack?
Sounds so...un-capcom.  I can't really wrap my head around it without hands on.

So when you do a fireball, the three buttons act as jab/medium/fierce?  But when you do a hurricane kick they act as short/forward/roundhouse?

When you play as Ryu and you're not doing a special move, which of the 3 punches does it throw out when you do a jumping punch/standing punch oor jumping kick/standing kick?  Did they just pick the most used attack of the 3 and toss the other two?
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 04:02:56 AM
So all punches are light attacks?  All kicks are medium attacks?  And a SS/RB power attack?
Sounds so...un-capcom.  I can't really wrap my head around it without hands on.

Again, go play one of the two 2D JoJo's games.  Three attack buttons.  Played great.

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So when you do a fireball, the three buttons act as jab/medium/fierce?  But when you do a hurricane kick they act as short/forward/roundhouse?

When you play as Ryu and you're not doing a special move, which of the 3 punches does it throw out when you do a jumping punch/standing punch oor jumping kick/standing kick?  Did they just pick the most used attack of the 3 and toss the other two?

Not sure, but I can confirm it's the weak, medium, heavy, and assist button set-up.  I would assume certain punches/kicks have been retained, and others were either dropped or come out with forward+attack, back+attack, or in certain combos. 

According to Fedex, this should be at my door in a little over six hours!  :hyper
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 01:46:55 PM
Final boss plus Doronjo's ending.  Nice to see ANIMATION in there.  Also her ending with the credits is interactive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h34rhya4vGQ&fmt=18
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Himu on December 10, 2008, 02:24:58 PM
wii only, japan only, dun care.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 10, 2008, 02:31:00 PM
Mark Man over at GAF got his copy, he posted some pics of the arcade stick in the monthly pick up thread.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 02:39:38 PM
What are the controls for the Wiimote?  Does it even have 4 buttons?

Can you use a classic control or GC controller?
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Himu on December 10, 2008, 02:40:28 PM
bring on mvc3
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: demi on December 10, 2008, 02:49:56 PM
Final boss plus Doronjo's ending.  Nice to see ANIMATION in there.  Also her ending with the credits is interactive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h34rhya4vGQ&fmt=18

Wow, you fight a giant orb. Cool.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 04:28:46 PM
It's in!  :hyper

What are the controls for the Wiimote?  Does it even have 4 buttons?

Can you use a classic control or GC controller?

Wiimote is "lolz," it's simplified controls.  You're gonna want to use a classic controller, joystick, or GC controller for this.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 05:58:26 PM
There is a LOT of stuff to unlock. I got Saki (1000 zenny) after beating the game once (800 points) and then doing a few mini games in original mode (200 points for doing three of them), which are all Wiimote-based. The game will ask you to remove any controller attachments first before entering the original game mode.

Also, Eighting developed TvC. I had no idea it wasn't entirely an internally-developed Capcom game. They did a fantastic job; despite the simplistic graphics, the art style and flash make it all look great. No problems using the Wii classic controller either. If I can find a PS2 controller adaptor I might use a stick, but no way am I going to bother buying an arcade stick for the Wii.

The game is very, very easy to pick up and play. Easier to get into than any of the previous Vs. games IMO, and also far less chaotic compared to MvC2. Since there are no assist-only characters, it feels like Marvel Vs. Street Fighter did. It's a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to playing it more. Hope I can get my friends into it...really wish this had online play.

While this is no big deal for a fighting game, it's still nice to see good endings again. You get a slideshow/text ending, followed by a short animated cut scene for whoever landed the final blow against the last boss, then you get to play the Doronjo and friends bicycle mini game during the credits.

Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on December 10, 2008, 06:27:24 PM
fuck buying unlocks in a fighting game
fuck that
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Robo on December 10, 2008, 06:29:34 PM
3 buttons :rofl
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: originalz on December 10, 2008, 06:36:09 PM
Damn, maybe I should just suck it up and buy a Japanese Wii...this plus some other games coming out are seriously tempting me!  Maybe I can find a used one for sub-20000yen.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 10:08:39 PM
The unlocks are mainly for extra stuff like BGMs, illustrations, outfit colors...that sort of thing.  You seem to get craploads of points pretty quick.

3 buttons :rofl

Uh...

Tons of fighters use three buttons (it's actually four buttons, btw).  That just comes off as ignorant.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 10:18:41 PM
Damn, maybe I should just suck it up and buy a Japanese Wii...this plus some other games coming out are seriously tempting me!  Maybe I can find a used one for sub-20000yen.

People are saying it works with the Freeloader version 3.2.  You should check around, or do the Twilight hack.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 10:40:36 PM
The unlocks are mainly for extra stuff like BGMs, illustrations, outfit colors...that sort of thing.  You seem to get craploads of points pretty quick.

3 buttons :rofl

Uh...

Tons of fighters use three buttons (it's actually four buttons, btw).  That just comes off as ignorant.

Not 2d fighters.  3 attack buttons really limits you in a 2d fighting game.  In 3d you can have less because there are way more joystick motions. 

Honestly I don't see why you are defending the Wii-ish button layout for the game.  You know it would be better if it just had the same controls as MvC2.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 10, 2008, 10:41:40 PM
3 buttons :rofl
SNK Fighters :rofl

um, no, wait, I mean  :maf :punch :gun
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 10:44:53 PM
The unlocks are mainly for extra stuff like BGMs, illustrations, outfit colors...that sort of thing.  You seem to get craploads of points pretty quick.

3 buttons :rofl

Uh...

Tons of fighters use three buttons (it's actually four buttons, btw).  That just comes off as ignorant.

Not 2d fighters.  3 attack buttons really limits you in a 2d fighting game.  In 3d you can have less because there are way more joystick motions. 

Honestly I don't see why you are defending the Wii-ish button layout for the game.  You know it would be better if it just had the same controls as MvC2.

There is nothing "Wii-ish" about the button layout.  That would be more like two buttons, lolz.  This is not MvC2.  It's a brand new game.  It STILL uses FOUR BUTTONS.  It just has them set up differently.  And Hyper's troll is actually the right answer- SNK fighters make use of 3-4 buttons and do just fine. 

I guess I am in defense mode because it sucks when people rip on games they haven't even played.   :-\

3 buttons :rofl
SNK Fighters :rofl

um, no, wait, I mean  :maf :punch :gun

You are gonna get perma-banned.   :'(
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 10:46:27 PM
A tag button is not a button.  Sorry.

Didn't they add a 5th button to one of the guilty gears for tag or turn or something?  That didn't make it a 5 button fighter.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 10:48:04 PM
A tag button is not a button.  Sorry.

Didn't they add a 5th button to one of the guilty gears for tag or turn or something?  That didn't make it a 5 button fighter.

That would make it a five-button fighter.  This is why special pads and sticks made for the game had five buttons.  Also it's not a tag button, it's the dust attack button, used for launchers and such.  And it's an attack button.

I'm still trying to figure out how the ASSIST BUTTON, USED FOR MAKING *ATTACKS* WITH YOUR PARTNER, is not an attack button, sorry.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 10, 2008, 10:50:40 PM
You are gonna get perma-banned.   :'(
Don't be hasty dude, I'm defending the fewer buttons position.  I've bought almost every single domestic SNK PS2 and DC release.

my point was that more buttons doesn't necessarily equal more gameplay complexity, like the ludicrously deep Last Blade series has shown us, or most of SNK's catalog in general.  And if you ask me which side of the divide I fall on, yes, I'm an SNK lover before a Capcom lover.  I know that war has long since passed, but dang it all, SNK never stopped being awesome while Capcom gave up on it post MvC2.  I'm pleased as punch to see Capcom back in the genre they do best, but I still maintain there's somebody who does it better then them.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 10:51:41 PM
A tag button is not a button.  Sorry.

Didn't they add a 5th button to one of the guilty gears for tag or turn or something?  That didn't make it a 5 button fighter.

That would make it a five-button fighter.  This is why special pads and sticks made for the game had five buttons.  Also it's not a tag button, it's the dust attack button, used for launchers and such.  And it's an attack button.

I'm still trying to figure out how the ASSIST BUTTON, USED FOR MAKING *ATTACKS* WITH YOUR PARTNER, is not an attack button, sorry.

Because somehow other games that have used assist striker attacks have done so without giving it an entire button.  Like the dust attack button in GG.  In previous GG games you still had the attack but it was within the 4 buttons.  Just separating a move to a separate button doesn't make it any deeper.

Anyhow, I'm just messing with you.  I don't really care either way if it plays well.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 10, 2008, 11:00:06 PM
A tag button is not a button.  Sorry.

Didn't they add a 5th button to one of the guilty gears for tag or turn or something?  That didn't make it a 5 button fighter.

That would make it a five-button fighter.  This is why special pads and sticks made for the game had five buttons.  Also it's not a tag button, it's the dust attack button, used for launchers and such.  And it's an attack button.

I'm still trying to figure out how the ASSIST BUTTON, USED FOR MAKING *ATTACKS* WITH YOUR PARTNER, is not an attack button, sorry.

Because somehow other games that have used assist striker attacks have done so without giving it an entire button.  Like the dust attack button in GG.  In previous GG games you still had the attack but it was within the 4 buttons.  Just separating a move to a separate button doesn't make it any deeper.

Anyhow, I'm just messing with you.  I don't really care either way if it plays well.

No, it makes things smoother and easier to do.  And I have no problem with that; like you say I don't care as long as it plays well.  We've already established this and that Capcom themselves have made good three-button fighters before.  The argument here is that having more buttons doesn't make a game any deeper.  The deepest fighter out there is VF and it only has two attack buttons.

You are gonna get perma-banned.   :'(
Don't be hasty dude, I'm defending the fewer buttons position.  I've bought almost every single domestic SNK PS2 and DC release.

my point was that more buttons doesn't necessarily equal more gameplay complexity, like the ludicrously deep Last Blade series has shown us, or most of SNK's catalog in general.  And if you ask me which side of the divide I fall on, yes, I'm an SNK lover before a Capcom lover.  I know that war has long since passed, but dang it all, SNK never stopped being awesome while Capcom gave up on it post MvC2.  I'm pleased as punch to see Capcom back in the genre they do best, but I still maintain there's somebody who does it better then them.

Yeah...SNK won.   ;)

You know what my 2D favorite fighter out of the HUGE amount of releases has been this year?  KOF '98 Ultimate Match.  I want KOF XII way more than I do the home version of SF4, too, despite the lack of new characters.
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Post by: originalz on December 10, 2008, 11:09:52 PM
Damn, maybe I should just suck it up and buy a Japanese Wii...this plus some other games coming out are seriously tempting me!  Maybe I can find a used one for sub-20000yen.

People are saying it works with the Freeloader version 3.2.  You should check around, or do the Twilight hack.

Don't feel like messing around with that crap, would rather just keep my Wii legit and not risk any future updates messing shit up.  If I can get a Japanese Wii at a good price, I'll probably grab it.  There are a lot of JPN games that I'm interested in playing.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 10, 2008, 11:10:45 PM
I grew up loving Capcom, hating SNK.
I still enjoyed the occasional game like Garou, SS2, KoF 98'/99/2002/2003, but I'm very mehhh about 75% of SNK fighters.  SvC  :yuck

So I prefer my 2d fighters Capcom-ish.


Eighting made a lot of shallow, but fun and pretty, anime fighters last gen.  I guess it makes sense they made this, though hopefully it's deeper than say the Naruto fighters.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 11, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
Haha, Ryu's ending is great.  He goes to the same world as
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Lost Planet and Dragon Punches the monsters
[close]
.   :lol

Also should mention that the Lost Planet mech and Gold Lightan DO NOT get partners.  They are single-only characters and get a larger lifebar to make up for it.  They are HUGE (same size as the final boss) and play a bit differently than the rest of the characters.

Damn, maybe I should just suck it up and buy a Japanese Wii...this plus some other games coming out are seriously tempting me!  Maybe I can find a used one for sub-20000yen.

People are saying it works with the Freeloader version 3.2.  You should check around, or do the Twilight hack.

Don't feel like messing around with that crap, would rather just keep my Wii legit and not risk any future updates messing shit up.  If I can get a Japanese Wii at a good price, I'll probably grab it.  There are a lot of JPN games that I'm interested in playing.

I'm afraid to ask what else!

I grew up loving Capcom, hating SNK.
I still enjoyed the occasional game like Garou, SS2, KoF 98'/99/2002/2003, but I'm very mehhh about 75% of SNK fighters.  SvC  :yuck

So I prefer my 2d fighters Capcom-ish.

You should try NeoGeo Battle Coliseum.  It's more Capcom-ish in some ways.  SvC was awful-broken (I still loved messing with it though) but NGBC is like the game SvC should have been.  The Real Bouts also kick major ass, but now it is KOF XI, '98 Ultimate, NGBC, SS Tenka, and Regulation A for the awesome.

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Eighting made a lot of shallow, but fun and pretty, anime fighters last gen.  I guess it makes sense they made this, though hopefully it's deeper than say the Naruto fighters.

This game looks like it's going to be just as deep as the other Vs. games were.  Check out Shoryuken; people are already finding crazy shit.  Eighting making this means nothing.  Dimps made Street Fighter IV but you'd never know it when you play it.  TvC is 100% Capcom goodness.  If you know the Tatsunoko side then the nostalgia kick will also be awesome, particularly with the music.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 11, 2008, 12:40:32 AM
I don't know anyone from the Tatsunoko side :\  Not my genre of anime.

And NGBC was  :yuck
Especially on PS2 with 10 second load times!

Don't get me wrong, I've played pretty much all the SNK games over the years as I give almost any fighter a shot.  I just never liked them much.  The spritework looked stiff and the controls/combos felt stiff to me (Garou exception here).  Capcom games just seemed easier to play and more fluid.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 11, 2008, 12:53:22 AM
I don't know anyone from the Tatsunoko side :\  Not my genre of anime.

There are some pretty cool characters in there.  I really only (barely) know Doronjo and Yattaman #1 from Yattaman, and that's only because a new anime started up when I was in Japan.   I really like the way Casshern plays.

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And NGBC was  :yuck
Especially on PS2 with 10 second load times!

Epic fail.   :'( 

The load times DID suck though.  10 seconds is being generous.  The good news?  Play it on your PS3 and watch those load times disappear.  It cuts them down to more than half!

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Don't get me wrong, I've played pretty much all the SNK games over the years as I give almost any fighter a shot.  I just never liked them much.  The spritework looked stiff and the controls/combos felt stiff to me (Garou exception here).  Capcom games just seemed easier to play and more fluid.

That's okay, not everyone has good taste.   ;)

j/k

I think it's pretty much safe to say that if you like the previous Vs. games, you will like TvC, unless the absence of Marvel characters is a deal breaker for you.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 11, 2008, 09:17:42 AM
Here's some Ken (Gatchaman Ken, that is!) combos-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3irqZy4um8

Sick!
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: tiesto on December 11, 2008, 09:37:33 AM
Will US arcades (CTF?) be getting this game at any time?
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 11, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
Just unlocked Viewtiful Joe, and he is awesome!   His BGM is right from the first stage of VJ1.  Brought a smile to my face hearing that BGM and getting the movie reel effect when doing his slow/zoom and speed supers.   :) 

Will US arcades (CTF?) be getting this game at any time?
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I don't see why places like CTF wouldn't.  All the SF4 cabs in the U.S. are imported, as are all the Tekken 6 cabs IIRC.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 11, 2008, 03:10:06 PM
I dont see this ever being localized, but alot of people claim the licensing would screw up such an effort. Do companies still hold liscenses for tatsunoko in the U.S.A? All of these characters are obscure, none of the shows air anywhere, no dvds. Its like maybe back in the seventies and eighties it be a problem, but all of the tatsunoko characters look about as relevant today as hanah barbera heroes like space ghost and birdman.
oh god
What if
Hannah Barbara vs Capcom? :p
Blue falcon and dinomut, space ghost, johnny quest, conan lookalik, and fred flinstone? Mwahahaha
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 11, 2008, 03:12:21 PM
I dont see this ever being localized, but alot of people claim the licensing would screw up such an effort. Do companies still hold liscenses for tatsunoko in the U.S.A? All of these characters are obscure, none of the shows air anywhere, no dvds. Its like maybe back in the seventies and eighties it be a problem, but all of the tatsunoko characters look about as relevant today as hanah barbera heroes like space ghost and birdman.

ADV has the rights to Casshern and Gatchaman. Manga has Karas. Media Blasters has the new Tekkaman, but not the one that's in the game.

I think the other properties (Gold Lightan, Yatterman) aren't held by anyone in North America.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 11, 2008, 06:16:04 PM
I read somewhere that none of the licensing stuff matters for the game side of things, and that it could be done.  Regardless, it doesn't even matter since no one knows what the hell "Tatsunoko" is outside of Japan, nor do they know who most of those characters are. 
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 11, 2008, 06:34:50 PM
I read somewhere that none of the licensing stuff matters for the game side of things, and that it could be done.  Regardless, it doesn't even matter since no one knows what the hell "Tatsunoko" is outside of Japan, nor do they know who most of those characters are. 

If that's the case, then why are Super Robot Wars and Another Century's Episode stuck in Japan? Or is this specific to TvC?
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: cool breeze on December 11, 2008, 06:35:43 PM
I got a call from the front desk saying there is a package, so I can only hope it's this.


FUCK

another day my wii stays dusty
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 11, 2008, 06:59:48 PM
Super Robot Wars' licensing issues are so complex that it will never come to America.

That's what I figured long ago.

What I'm confused about is Bandai not taking a chance on one of the SD Gundam G Generation titles. Not even one of the DS versions.

That's a mecha SRPG that is not hampered by multiple licenses. It's Gundam. One company has the rights to it in America: Bandai.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 12, 2008, 02:06:19 AM
Super Robot Wars' licensing issues are so complex that it will never come to America.

That's what I figured long ago.

What I'm confused about is Bandai not taking a chance on one of the SD Gundam G Generation titles. Not even one of the DS versions.

That's a mecha SRPG that is not hampered by multiple licenses. It's Gundam. One company has the rights to it in America: Bandai.

To be fair, anime properties that arent easily marketable shonen reskins of the dragonball franchise (naruto, bleach) dont stand much of a chance. I used to be a big anime nerd but am kind of glad that it died down considerably in america.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Purple Filth on December 12, 2008, 09:06:15 AM
Supposed first day sales 15K.

the west could helpi guess
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 12, 2008, 10:58:12 AM
Super Robot Wars' licensing issues are so complex that it will never come to America.

That's what I figured long ago.

What I'm confused about is Bandai not taking a chance on one of the SD Gundam G Generation titles. Not even one of the DS versions.

That's a mecha SRPG that is not hampered by multiple licenses. It's Gundam. One company has the rights to it in America: Bandai.

To be fair, anime properties that arent easily marketable shonen reskins of the dragonball franchise (naruto, bleach) dont stand much of a chance. I used to be a big anime nerd but am kind of glad that it died down considerably in america.

I totally understand. I'm just throwing the question out there in case someone may be reading.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2008, 02:09:24 PM
Supposed first day sales 15K.

the west could helpi guess

Wowwwwwww

Wii is so shit.  I think most sensible people thought a CAPCOM VS fighter with nostalgic ANIME characters could at least do a good deal better than what a doujin fighter does on PS2 (like Arcana Heart for instance [40k lifetime]) or even on par with something like Fate. 

Lifetime is going to be <50k for this.  I hope this means Capcom will PORT THE HELL OUT OF THIS GAME and put it on real systems like the PS2.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: archie4208 on December 12, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
Supposed first day sales 15K.

the west could helpi guess

Wowwwwwww

Wii is so shit.  I think most sensible people thought a CAPCOM VS fighter with nostalgic ANIME characters could at least do a good deal better than what a doujin fighter does on PS2 (like Arcana Heart for instance [40k lifetime]) or even on par with something like Fate. 

Lifetime is going to be <50k for this.  I hope this means Capcom will PORT THE HELL OUT OF THIS GAME and put it on real systems like the PS2.

Does the Wii version even have online?  Hopefully there is a 360 version so I can use the upcoming Street Fighter 4 stick with it. :drool
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: demi on December 12, 2008, 02:19:42 PM
third party wii game bombs, world is shocked
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 12, 2008, 02:47:57 PM
Nintendo has done a bang up job of attracting a new group of consumers with the Wii.

Those consumers don't give a shit about the types of games we like.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 12, 2008, 04:33:57 PM
Here's hoping this means it gets ported to another system.  I bet a PS2 version is-a-comin' now!
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 12, 2008, 04:37:37 PM
Here's hoping this means it gets ported to another system.  I bet a PS2 version is-a-comin' now!

They need to stop relying on the PS2 in Japan. PS3/360 or bust.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Bebpo on December 12, 2008, 04:39:18 PM
Here's hoping this means it gets ported to another system.  I bet a PS2 version is-a-comin' now!

They need to stop relying on the PS2 in Japan. PS3/360 or bust.

I don't know how well the game would work on PS3/X360 since it's all SD assets.  Maybe as a $20 PSN/XBLA title.

PS2 seems like a better home.  Should look about the same.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 12, 2008, 04:39:37 PM
My prediction is a PS2 port with 1-2 extra characters, but longer load times and slightly worse visuals/sound in comparison to the Wii version.

It's too bad the game didn't do better the first day, but then it's not like Street Fighter IV took arcades by storm either.  TvC is a great fighter and those who can play it on Wii should really check it out.  It's awesome.

Here's hoping this means it gets ported to another system.  I bet a PS2 version is-a-comin' now!

They need to stop relying on the PS2 in Japan. PS3/360 or bust.

I wish, but it takes more work to port this game to the (real next-gen) consoles, a PS2 port would be easier plus there is a larger user base.

BTW Sugoi Arcana Heart 2 is coming out for PS2 in April.  I wish this too were next-gen just for online play.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2008, 08:35:37 PM
finally got this in the mail

excited to play my wii for once
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: originalz on December 12, 2008, 08:39:08 PM
Capcom should have released it earlier in the arcades.  There was no hype built up for it, the game just came out.  If they kept it in the arcade for a few months beforehand, people would probably have been more interested in buying it for the Wii.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: cool breeze on December 12, 2008, 11:48:58 PM
this game is awesome
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: CurseoftheGods on December 13, 2008, 07:24:54 PM
Here's hoping this means it gets ported to another system.  I bet a PS2 version is-a-comin' now!

They need to stop relying on the PS2 in Japan. PS3/360 or bust.

I don't know how well the game would work on PS3/X360 since it's all SD assets.

Just make it run in 720p and my money is theirs.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: cool breeze on December 13, 2008, 07:43:59 PM
I'm playing with the SNES controller and it's fine.  It's somewhere between an anime/smash bros style fighter and a Street Fighter 2.

I haven't (and never will) play the crazy wii remote + nunchuck combo controls.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on December 14, 2008, 10:40:23 AM
I'm playing with the SNES controller and it's fine.  It's somewhere between an anime/smash bros style fighter and a Street Fighter 2.

I haven't (and never will) play the crazy wii remote + nunchuck combo controls.

It's a Vs. game.  It plays like all the previous Vs. games, but with three main attacks instead of six or four.

You can actually play the game with just the Wiimote if you want to.  It's like a beginner mode and one button attacks while the other does specials.  Good for kids or your friends who can't play fighters. 
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Purple Filth on December 17, 2008, 08:32:55 AM
Games sounds look enough for me to play it

supposed Media Create sales for the week  24,100
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Beezy on December 17, 2008, 09:51:46 AM
A friend imported this and brought it to school yesterday. The game owns. Batsu will rock your face.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 27, 2010, 10:11:53 PM
Well, this seemed like the appro thread to bump for the domestic release of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

I've got it.  I honestly never thought it would come out in America and yesterday I was able to walk four blocks from my home to a Gamestop and just pick it up like a very expensive loaf of bread.  And like a loaf of bread, its delicious, easy to use, and will reward investment in using it well.

I really got no grumbling to talk about.  I wish there was more single player stuff to do, I wish my internet wasn't so laggy, but so far, shit, this is a fecking awesome game and I've had nothing but a great time with it over the last day.

Any other takers?
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on January 27, 2010, 10:31:14 PM
I have it and MoxManiac has it too...we just played each other!  If you don't have a LAN adaptor, I highly recommend you get one.  They're around $20 and make online play go much more smoothly.  I've had far less laggy matches since I got it tonight.  The guy at Gamestop knew exactly why I was buying it when I brought it to the counter.   :lol

Friend code is 3137-7944-8822.  Friend matches kinda suck because you both have to add each other and then you both have to select each other in the friend match menu to get a connection...there's no inviting players and no way to communicate in-game.  Wii online  :-\.

I still haven't decided on a team yet.  It's pretty easy to with with Gold Lightan because most folks don't know how to beat him, but that won't last and the character feels incredibly limited in what he can do.  I really like Joe The Condor, Tekkaman Blade, Frank West, Jun The Swan, Viewiful Joe, and maybe Morrigan the most so far.  Also Ryu is really good, but feels almost too good.

Did you get the Lost Planet mini game unlocked yet?  I haven't but it was pretty fun in the Japanese version. 

Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Rman on January 27, 2010, 11:33:47 PM
Did you get a stick, Lyte?  Or are you using the CC?
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on January 27, 2010, 11:52:59 PM
I am a pad warrior!
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Damian79 on January 28, 2010, 12:36:59 AM
I just got a second wii for this game.  Huzzah!
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Enl on January 28, 2010, 12:49:37 AM
Friend Code: 1162-1135-3227

Enjoying the game a hellava lots. There was a brief weirdness at the beginning coming off of non-stop SFIV playing. Everything looked so stiff, but that disappeared once I got the feel of the combat more. If I have any gripe right now it's that it can be a little too easy to set off any attack that requires rapid button presses (ex. Chun-li's lightning legs). Other than that I am greatly enjoying most of the new characters (Polimar!) and all the changes and tweaks to the VS combat (delay time in cross-over attacks!). If the online stays active this may keep my Wii from getting dusty throughout most of the year.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: bork on February 02, 2010, 03:34:31 AM
TvC is the first Wii game I have ever played online, so this did not even occur to me until tonight: Wii online appears to be region-locked.  While with TvC, it's okay since it offers worldwide play, it means that I am forced to only be able to do worldwide matches, which is more of a gamble as far as connection quality is concerned.  Domestic only matches me up against Asian players, where there is almost always lag present.   :-\  And I was wondering why I couldn't get any domestic matches a few days ago.   :lol  Kinda sucks, but it only seems to be Asian matches that really lag...North American and European matches are pretty much okay.
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 02, 2010, 03:42:20 AM
I want Capcom vs. Star Trek
Title: Re: Who is getting Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom?
Post by: Raban on February 02, 2010, 03:43:39 AM
I want Capcom vs. Star Trek

A friend of mine would go head-explodey over a game like this.