I think you should play WoW, perhaps I could even join you good sir. Star Ocean 4 has always seemed more like eye candy then the best JRPG so far this generation. I don't think Tri-Ace has what it takes to make a killer RPG anymore. If fact, I think the JRPG genre is dead this generation.
I think you should play WoW, perhaps I could even join you good sir. Star Ocean 4 has always seemed more like eye candy then the best JRPG so far this generation. I don't think Tri-Ace has what it takes to make a killer RPG anymore. If fact, I think the JRPG genre is dead this generation.
Maybe you should pretend you went on a date because The Last Remnant is the best RPG ever
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1267687&postcount=145
might as well release it as xbox originals.
u mad?http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1267687&postcount=145
might as well release it as xbox originals.
goddamn this thread isn't even on the second page
I does look pretty awful though.
i'm ready to snapyou can always snap on my baby.
I does look pretty awful though.
dude don't talk about yourself like that
I've only just finished the tutorial. The Star Ocean system is pretty complex. Took me ages to get the hang of Sight Out.
spoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i39.tinypic.com/14ux2cj.jpg)[close]
:lol
oh Star Ocean
That means if you want to go back to a planet from the beginning of the game to complete a side quest, grab an item for synthesis, or look for bonus bosses and dungeons, you'll be prompted to insert one of the previous discs.
okay. now i'm seriously hoping for a ps3 versionWhy would you expect that to be any better?
okay. now i'm seriously hoping for a ps3 versionWhy would you expect that to be any better?
It's pretty clear that the resolution was dropped in order to hit 60 fps. Only the battles are rendered at such a low resolution (the rest of the game is near 720p). I think the loss in resolution is acceptable when you consider the framerate. I mean, their previous 360 game ran in full 720p but constantly dipped below 30 fps during battle. It was unacceptable.
At least you be able to back track smoothly (unless it was done like mgs4) :lol
True. The way multiple discs have been handled with SO4 is pretty awful.okay. now i'm seriously hoping for a ps3 versionWhy would you expect that to be any better?
It's pretty clear that the resolution was dropped in order to hit 60 fps. Only the battles are rendered at such a low resolution (the rest of the game is near 720p). I think the loss in resolution is acceptable when you consider the framerate. I mean, their previous 360 game ran in full 720p but constantly dipped below 30 fps during battle. It was unacceptable.
At least you be able to back track smoothly (unless it was done like mgs4) :lol
Everyone crying over a shitty grab. Game looks great on a screen. smh at the disc swapping though. That shit sucks if it's real.
:lol JRPG developers just aren't doing so hot this generation, are they?
:lol JRPG developers just aren't doing so hot this generation, are they?
What are you talking about- Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant are all top notch!
...oh yeah.
:lol JRPG developers just aren't doing so hot this generation, are they?
What are you talking about- Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant are all top notch!
...oh yeah.
Exception of Lost Odyssey, those two games weren't exactly smooth. Blue Dragon still looked amazing despite the slowdown.
:lol JRPG developers just aren't doing so hot this generation, are they?
What are you talking about- Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant are all top notch!
...oh yeah.
Exception of Lost Odyssey, those two games weren't exactly smooth. Blue Dragon still looked amazing despite the slowdown.
Oh I'm sorry, I was talking about games that were playable. As far as good looking... well, all three still looked better than this.
you don't need to worry about inserting Disc 1 if you want to revisit an earlier town or do a sidequest while on Disc 2. Disc 3 is so stuffed that if you want to visit an earlier part of the game, you will be asked to put in an earlier disc when you attempt to access that area. This won't happen on Disc 2, and unless you want to complete every single side quest, this probably won't happen at all.
It looks like the whole "disk change" thing really happens when your on the last disc and you want to go back to eariler sections of the game.Quoteyou don't need to worry about inserting Disc 1 if you want to revisit an earlier town or do a sidequest while on Disc 2. Disc 3 is so stuffed that if you want to visit an earlier part of the game, you will be asked to put in an earlier disc when you attempt to access that area. This won't happen on Disc 2, and unless you want to complete every single side quest, this probably won't happen at all.
crisis somewhat averted?
The 60fps battles run in low res, but when you're running around on the field and watching cutscenes it appears to be proper crispy HDDo the field and cutscenes also run at 60 fps (like SO3)? I'm assuming not, but it would be nice.
6.5 Presentation
From epic dungeons with few save points to epically awkward extended cutscenes, there is a lot that could have been done to make the story and experience more engaging.
7.5 Graphics
There is little that is visually stunning, but the game runs smoothly and there is a nice variety in locations to explore.
7.5 Sound
The soundtrack is nice. The English-only audio is not.
8.5 Gameplay
The combat and leveling really had me digging Star Ocean.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
A substantial role-playing game with lots of reasons to play the game multiple times.
8.0
Impressive OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)
I got lost Remenant for 23.00 with free shippingFrom where?
I got lost Remenant for 23.00 with free shippingFrom where?
The 60fps battles run in low res, but when you're running around on the field and watching cutscenes it appears to be proper crispy HDDo the field and cutscenes also run at 60 fps (like SO3)? I'm assuming not, but it would be nice.
Haha, they Lost Odyssey'd it.
Also, the text is completely horrible on SDTVs. Dirty poors crying
Do they at least give you an option to turn off the VA?
Someone on GAF said there's a severe lack of saving points. That just kills RPGs for me.
lol the first boss -- the giant dinosaur thing, right? -- is fuck easy
LRN2BLINDSIDE
seriously, blindside and then chain combo (2 regular attacks, middle of third attack fire off a special like rising blade). do that until your rush meter is charged, and then blindside, whack x, combo into chain combo BOOM THOUSANDS OF POINTS OF DAMAGE OMG
Uh, no
God you shoudl be banned
Uh, no
God you shoudl be banned
Don't let my truthiness frighten you, demi.
For every complaint raised against ME, most of which are certainly valid, Star Oceac: TLH has life two, maybe three. I'd probably overlook most of them, but the camera, field movement, and collision detection are all just so janky, so I put me in a bad mood to start things off.
Intro is amazing, as usual.
lol will stick to LO and TLR
lol the first boss -- the giant dinosaur thing, right? -- is fuck easy
LRN2BLINDSIDE
seriously, blindside and then chain combo (2 regular attacks, middle of third attack fire off a special like rising blade). do that until your rush meter is charged, and then blindside, whack x, combo into chain combo BOOM THOUSANDS OF POINTS OF DAMAGE OMG
I figured that's what the problem was. Never bothered learning blindside because the battle tutorial was taking forever and I just wanted to PLAY the game.
But let's get serious here for a minute and bring in some Real Talk. Mass Effect is way better than Star Ocean: The Last Hope.
Uh, no
God you shoudl be banned
Don't let my truthiness frighten you, demi.
For every complaint raised against ME, most of which are certainly valid, Star Oceac: TLH has life two, maybe three. I'd probably overlook most of them, but the camera, field movement, and collision detection are all just so janky, so I put me in a bad mood to start things off.
Intro is amazing, as usual.
THE Only thing that is frightening is your anime collection
BRAH
this is a tri-ace game! if you play a tri-ace game, you are ALWAYS required to understand the battle systems to succeed, even on easy!
lol will stick to LO and TLR
eew, get 50 cent talk out of this thread!
eew, get 50 cent talk out of this thread!
Why, it's better than this sub-HD weeaboofest
eew, get 50 cent talk out of this thread!
Why, it's better than this sub-HD weeaboofest
Cause (most) rap sucks, and 50 cent is the suckiest of the suck.
demi's just upset that some of the achievements are a bit tough to get and so he can't boost his e-peen easily.
what a fucking racist comment to make. 50 Cent is all about adrenaline action and punching people in the throats. Star Ocean is about sub-HD titties on pre-teen girls
50 runs at 60 as well and is in HD
That about wraps it up for Star Ocean
50 runs at 60 as well and is in HD
That about wraps it up for Star Ocean
Yeah, but it's a game about a terrible has-been rapper (yes, I don't like much rap, but most rap fans don't even like the guy). SO4 is an RPG with an awesome battle system, cool locales, and complex item creation/skills systems. Fuck, I'd rather play the Wu Tang fighting game for PS1.
50 runs at 60 as well and is in HD
That about wraps it up for Star Ocean
Yeah, but it's a game about a terrible has-been rapper (yes, I don't like much rap, but most rap fans don't even like the guy). SO4 is an RPG with an awesome battle system, cool locales, and complex item creation/skills systems. Fuck, I'd rather play the Wu Tang fighting game for PS1.
Star Ocean 4
[ ] Diamond Skull
[ ] Terrorists
[ ] Shivving people
[ ] DJ Whoo Kid
50 Cent: Blood on the Sand
[X] Diamond Skull
[X] Terrorists
[X] Shivving people
[X] DJ Whoo Kid
how bout 60fps AND hd?
vesperia did it, why couldn't the technical masters at tri-ace achieve it? i know i know different visuals styles, but they should have done SOMETHING to get the battles out of sd territory
:piss tri-ace :piss2
Sounds great if you're a wigger stuck in 1998...
star ocan 4's backgrounds and models are really low-poly
just bought it.
nice nostalgic title menu.
voice acting makes me sleepy SUDDENLY BATTLE SIMULATOR
now i'm stuck trying to learn every fucking little shit in it.
1. Jimmy Dix (Damon Wayans - The Last Boy Scout.
According to the Urban Dictionary, Jimmy is slang for penis while we all know that Dix is the plural of penis. All of which leads us to the conclusion that his name translates as Penis Penises...)
2. Gibson Rickenbacker
(Jean-Claude Van Damme - Cyborg.
In the future, the planet is a plague-ravaged apocalyptic wasteland, females are actually robots in disguise and heroes have names that sound like electric guitars - awesome!)
3. Marian Cobretti
(Sylvester Stallone - Cobra.
Johnny Cash's A Boy Named Sue described how an errant father's parting gift was to give his son a girl's name in order to make him toughen up. Now Marian "Cobra" Cobretti is undoubtedly hard as nails but that name is just too beyond the (pink) pale.)
4. Jericho Cane
(Arnold Schwarzenegger - End Of Days.
Forgetting that his name pronounced phonetically sounds like Jerry Cocaine (surely the best drug-dealing moniker ever), it's an oddly creaky title for such an accomplished kicker of demon butt.)
5. Pussy Galore
(Honor Blackman - Goldfinger
Apparently Goldfinger's producers were so concerned about the censor board's reaction to this most filthy of epithets they considered changing Pussy to Kitty. They remained bold, however, and the most blatantly dirty appellation in movie history was born.)
6. Cole Trickle
(Tom Cruise - Days Of Thunder
It might be just us, but the Cruiser's character in this testosterone-fuelled racing flick sounds like a euphemism for pissing oneself - "I would have pulled over to use the toilet, but instead I settled for a Cole Trickle in the car.")
You know, I'm all for the WACKY JAPPY and whatever, but I don't think I could live with myself for playing a game with a mc named fucking Edge Maverick. I've found my limit, apparently.
You know, I'm all for the WACKY JAPPY and whatever, but I don't think I could live with myself for playing a game with a mc named fucking Edge Maverick. I've found my limit, apparently.
"Edge" itself isn't that bad of a name, and has been used in a few other RPGs before.
50 Cent has rap songs on the title screen that go BITCH NICCA WHAT
6. Cole Trickle
(Tom Cruise - Days Of Thunder
It might be just us, but the Cruiser's character in this testosterone-fuelled racing flick sounds like a euphemism for pissing oneself - "I would have pulled over to use the toilet, but instead I settled for a Cole Trickle in the car.")
that doesn't happen to me but i am playing from the hdd
that doesn't happen to me but i am playing from the hdd
what i've noticed is that the framerate gets shitty around every save point in the field
How is the story?
As bad as they say??
I just beat the first boss and I'm fucking loving this game... much better than 3, combat feels so awesome, and it's addicting with the battle bonuses and attempting some of the battle trophies. Yeah, the environments are low-polygon and blocky, but the lack of much load time, palettes used and the texture detail more than make up for that. Then again I don't give a fuck about graphics in games.
Bebpo - after chipping off enough of the first boss's 'shell', you'll see a glowing blue spot on its side. Target it and you can do like 50-100hp of damage. Edge and Reimi were around level 7 when I beat it.
How is the story?
As bad as they say??
I just beat the first boss and I'm fucking loving this game... much better than 3, combat feels so awesome, and it's addicting with the battle bonuses and attempting some of the battle trophies. Yeah, the environments are low-polygon and blocky, but the lack of much load time, palettes used and the texture detail more than make up for that. Then again I don't give a fuck about graphics in games.
Bebpo - after chipping off enough of the first boss's 'shell', you'll see a glowing blue spot on its side. Target it and you can do like 50-100hp of damage. Edge and Reimi were around level 7 when I beat it.
Is there a way to change what you are targetting for instances like that?
When was the last time Tri-Ace didn't manage to fuck up the gameplay or story in one of their games?
How is the story?
As bad as they say??
the only way one could consider vesperia's battle system better is if they find tlh's too complex
because using blindsides successfully is more complex then any feature of a tales battle system
okay i think you're just giving me shit now. that or you didn't play the battle simulator
and when you finally beat the boss fucking edge tells faiz that he wants to scout more, for fuck sakes give ME the option, not EDGE.
I think it's pointless to talk about which of the two is more "complex". They're both pretty much mashers in battle and the only depth is in setting up your characters pre-battle.not true actually, the way the bosses are designed in the game. if you don't attack the weak spot you'll be hacking at it for like 15 minutes wondering what the hell is happening.
Star Ocean 4 battles :bow :bow
I got Synthesis and the amount of customization possible increased by like 300%
You don't need synthesis materials anymore
each weapon has 7 slots for synthesizing
You can synthesize ANY item
:bow tri-Ace :bow2
This is much better than Vesperia's battle system, it's a lot faster-paced, and enemies (at least as of now) aren't the HP sinks they were in Vesperia.
I got Synthesis and the amount of customization possible increased by like 300%
You don't need synthesis materials anymore
each weapon has 7 slots for synthesizing
You can synthesize ANY item
Also, there's a character in that film named Rowdy Burns. Now, I think Rowdy is a nickname- an awesome nickname- but still... :-*6. Cole Trickle
(Tom Cruise - Days Of Thunder
It might be just us, but the Cruiser's character in this testosterone-fuelled racing flick sounds like a euphemism for pissing oneself - "I would have pulled over to use the toilet, but instead I settled for a Cole Trickle in the car.")
That's nothing. There's a real NASCAR driver named Dick Trickle.
if there's one thing that will ruin this game for me it will be the shitty shit shit cutscenes
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAuXMib4pf4[/youtube]
so awful
:lol at the railgun sound effects
Square-Enix US this gen isn't trying anymore.
QuoteSquare-Enix US this gen isn't trying anymore.
I really doubt it's the localization that's to blame here.
Nobody believes me that this game is ugly. Everyone actually thinks it looks like this all the time:Hahaha. I've literally seen nothing from this game except the initial screenshots, and after seeing what the game looks like now I can't help but laugh.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/SO4TLH.jpg
Nobody believes me that this game is ugly. Everyone actually thinks it looks like this all the time:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/SO4TLH.jpg)
Japanese just can't be well translated to other languages. Seriously. I mean look at it, they just have this weird ass, uncomfortable pauses between dialog, there's no flow.
MGS4 suffers from it in multiple cases too, it's already rather weird in japanese, but when you have English voices then it becomes even worse.
Playing through SO4 has got me to the point where I'm about to give up on JRPGs entirely. There's just no excuse for a lot of things that it seems like every single JRPG does now. The cutscenes that drag on forever, the ridiculously stupid clothes, the complete lack of choice, the mind-numbing characters, the overly-dramatic and utterly saccharine dialog, the shoddy graphics, the janky controls, and on and on. Well, I say JRPGs, but I'm probably more referring to tri-Ace JRPGs. They went downhill hard and fast and I don't see them ever recovering. Lost Odyssey was pretty good, for the few hours that I played it, and seemed to avoid at least some of these problems.
If FXIII doesn't deliver, I may not buy another JRPG again unless it's a port of 16/32-bit game. :-\
does the 360 even have anymore jrpgs in the pipeline? i can't think of any
Playing through SO4 has got me to the point where I'm about to give up on JRPGs entirely. There's just no excuse for a lot of things that it seems like every single JRPG does now. The cutscenes that drag on forever, the ridiculously stupid clothes, the complete lack of choice, the mind-numbing characters, the overly-dramatic and utterly saccharine dialog, the shoddy graphics, the janky controls, and on and on. Well, I say JRPGs, but I'm probably more referring to tri-Ace JRPGs. They went downhill hard and fast and I don't see them ever recovering. Lost Odyssey was pretty good, for the few hours that I played it, and seemed to avoid at least some of these problems.
If FXIII doesn't deliver, I may not buy another JRPG again unless it's a port of 16/32-bit game. :-\
I don't think its just you. JRPGs have been failing pretty hard this generation on both handhelds and consoles (the DS has good JRPGs but they lack severly in the innovation department). At this rate only the biggest JRPG fanboys are going to stay with the genre. :gloomyPlaying through SO4 has got me to the point where I'm about to give up on JRPGs entirely. There's just no excuse for a lot of things that it seems like every single JRPG does now. The cutscenes that drag on forever, the ridiculously stupid clothes, the complete lack of choice, the mind-numbing characters, the overly-dramatic and utterly saccharine dialog, the shoddy graphics, the janky controls, and on and on. Well, I say JRPGs, but I'm probably more referring to tri-Ace JRPGs. They went downhill hard and fast and I don't see them ever recovering. Lost Odyssey was pretty good, for the few hours that I played it, and seemed to avoid at least some of these problems.
If FXIII doesn't deliver, I may not buy another JRPG again unless it's a port of 16/32-bit game. :-\
Word. I'm at the point where FF, SMT, DQ are the only jrpgs I care about. I'm just tired of rpgs in general.
Playing through SO4 has got me to the point where I'm about to give up on JRPGs entirely. There's just no excuse for a lot of things that it seems like every single JRPG does now. The cutscenes that drag on forever, the ridiculously stupid clothes, the complete lack of choice, the mind-numbing characters, the overly-dramatic and utterly saccharine dialog, the shoddy graphics, the janky controls, and on and on. Well, I say JRPGs, but I'm probably more referring to tri-Ace JRPGs. They went downhill hard and fast and I don't see them ever recovering. Lost Odyssey was pretty good, for the few hours that I played it, and seemed to avoid at least some of these problems.
If FXIII doesn't deliver, I may not buy another JRPG again unless it's a port of 16/32-bit game. :-\
Word. I'm at the point where FF, SMT, DQ are the only jrpgs I care about. I'm just tired of rpgs in general.
Playing this all today, and we're supposedly gonna have a snowstorm tomorrow, so that means I'm staying the hell home tomorrow :hyperMore snow, wtf?! NYC doesn't close shit when it snows. :'(
I don't think the dialogue or VA is that horrid comparably to other games in the genre. Unless it gets really bad after the first planetOHOHOHO
I don't think the dialogue or VA is that horrid comparably to other games in the genre. Unless it gets really bad after the first planet (haven't gotten a chance to play more yet).
dammit why am i not learning anymore chain combos? i'm at level 18 and edge only knows 2 for fucks sake. this shit is getting boring and i'm still on the second planet
I don't think the dialogue or VA is that horrid comparably to other games in the genre. Unless it gets really bad after the first planet (haven't gotten a chance to play more yet). I do agree that most RPGs are way too long, ~30-35 hours is a good length for them like they were in the SNES/PSX days. The genre got extremely bloated on PS2.
If you're looking for a short game, 50 Cent can be had in a weekend rental. It's really that good.
I don't think the dialogue or VA is that horrid comparably to other games in the genre. Unless it gets really bad after the first planet (haven't gotten a chance to play more yet). I do agree that most RPGs are way too long, ~30-35 hours is a good length for them like they were in the SNES/PSX days. The genre got extremely bloated on PS2.
I don't think the dialogue or VA is that horrid comparably to other games in the genre. Unless it gets really bad after the first planet (haven't gotten a chance to play more yet). I do agree that most RPGs are way too long, ~30-35 hours is a good length for them like they were in the SNES/PSX days. The genre got extremely bloated on PS2.
yeah, it's a bit weird now that 60 to 80 seems like the new average. Too short also sucks because it feels like all the time you build up your character was kinda useless.
I don't think the dialogue or VA is that horrid comparably to other games in the genre. Unless it gets really bad after the first planet (haven't gotten a chance to play more yet). I do agree that most RPGs are way too long, ~30-35 hours is a good length for them like they were in the SNES/PSX days. The genre got extremely bloated on PS2.
yeah, it's a bit weird now that 60 to 80 seems like the new average. Too short also sucks because it feels like all the time you build up your character was kinda useless.
eh, I barely see any jrpg or wrpg last past the 50 hour mark these days. Usually around 30-40 hours for the main stories and then 40-60 for sidequests and anything above 60+ is for those crazies who try to max level their characters.
The only exception in the last few years have been the Persona games which are like 70ish.
what fucking idiot thought that was a good idea? christ
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14962010&postcount=1769
this is why tri-ace should be shut down.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14962010&postcount=1769
this is why tri-ace should be shut down.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14962010&postcount=1769
this is why tri-ace should be shut down.
Can someone please remind me why Tri-Ace is regarded as a quality developer again? Is their reputation still riding on nothing but Valkyrie Profile for the last 10 years?
FF3 didnt have embarassing characters so It was a good compromise
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14962010&postcount=1769
this is why tri-ace should be shut down.
Can someone please remind me why Tri-Ace is regarded as a quality developer again? Is their reputation still riding on nothing but Valkyrie Profile for the last 10 years?
Awesome battle systems and item creation systems. Also nobody bitched about FFIII's final dungeon with the zero save points...
FF3 didnt have embarassing characters so It was a good compromise
it's also like 15 years old.
I just wanted to say that there's no way that Lymle is 15. I'd be willing to believe 8.
No save points is even better when you know you're making it on a system that sometimes FREEZES.
Also, Tri-ace is not regarded as a HQ developer anymore. They were in the PS1 days because of VP1, they were in the PS2 days ONLY because of their graphical skills (VP2 was good, but the rest of their output was average at best), this gen they are failing on gameplay and on graphics, so I'd put them on the level of someone like MediaVision (Wild Arms guys) as a C+ jrpg dev.
Atlus R&D1 = FF team = DQ team > Mistwalker >>> Team Symphonia >>>>>>> Other Tales Teams >>>>> Tri-Ace/MediaVision/Other Bandai/Namco rpg teams.FF3 didnt have embarassing characters so It was a good compromise
it's also like 15 years old.
Which is older than the majority of Tri-ace characters!
-In shops when buying you can't see how many of the item you already have in your possession. AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE?!? Because this is something that is like IN EVERY OTHER RPG. I usually buy like 5 of every material in games so I always have it on me if I need it. Now I see like 20 materials and I have no idea if I already have 5 or so of any of them, so either I check my inventory 1 by 1 (waste of time) or I just buy 5 of everything in the shop regardless (waste of money).
--Targetting is sooooooo fucked. Because you can't manually change who you are targetting (other than RUN CLOSE TO THEM AND POINT AT THEM)
I played through SO2 and thought it was awful.
oh and i had a lot of fun with IU
if i had to say which one is better i'd choose IU
you got a DRE playing off the hdd? :lol
there's no reason to keep playing any game if you're not having fun. my new years resolution for gaming was to stop finishing games that i wasn't enjoying.
i was really making myself miserable by completing games i wasn't have any fun with
oh and i had a lot of fun with IU
if i had to say which one is better i'd choose IU
Hmm, honestly I didn't care much for IU at all, I'm definitely enjoying this a helluva lot more. I'm even enjoying this more than Vesperia for some reason... Vesperia was waaaaay too talk-y for my tastes, and the fights took forever since most of the monsters were HP sinks.
I like how Reimi flipped out on Edge for no reason on the Second Planet. The area where you have to clime down and go to that little town in the snow. Its like, holy shit girlie, I wasn't thinking about looking up at yo' ass while we climb down.
oh and i had a lot of fun with IU
if i had to say which one is better i'd choose IU
19:36 on the clock and still having fun
although i can't believe they decided to make edge go all emo. too many jrpgs do this shit.
at least in abyss luke went from douche -> emo -> decent guy
in this game you go from the cool guy that everyone heaps tons of praise on -> mega-emo -> ?
there better be a payoff for all of edge's sulking
Face it, jrpg's are dead guys.
Yeah, the emo stuff was terrible but the ridiculousness of thebefore it was lollolol gold. Almost as funny as the SO3 plot twist.spoiler (click to show/hide)earth destruction[close]
I'm on the next planet Roak, but not really feeling it right now because it has a big ass overworld. I saw a bunny though, so hopefully I'll get transportation soon. Running around the overworld portions are the worst part of the game for sure.
19:36 on the clock and still having fun
although i can't believe they decided to make edge go all emo. too many jrpgs do this shit.
at least in abyss luke went from douche -> emo -> decent guy
in this game you go from the cool guy that everyone heaps tons of praise on -> mega-emo -> ?
there better be a payoff for all of edge's sulking
Face it, jrpg's are dead guys.
Evidence?
I was actually laughing at Edgespoiler (click to show/hide)Killing billions of people[close]
As you said, that is pretty ridiculous :lol He's a naive little dummy for doing what he did.
Oh.my.God. The way Edge sounds when he's choking up. Holy shit the Voice Acting. THE VOICE ACTING
Well, the good thing about Vesperia is that it takes genre cliches and freshens them up. You know how the main characters in these games are pussies who let bad guys go all the time? Not Vesperia's! And then there's always the OBVIOUS love romance between the main character and some goodie goodie chick. Not in Vesperia! They've got more of a brother - sister relationship than a I want to fuck your brains relationship. On top of this, the maid lead female probably gets raped by a lesbian in your party repeatedly!
Oh.my.God. The way Edge sounds when he's choking up. Holy shit the Voice Acting. THE VOICE ACTING
If the game does not grab me by the end of the night, I'm done with it and sending it to demi. I'm only at the end of the first planet, but so far I think this is the worst Tri-Ace beginning of a game, including both VP1 and SO3.
Oh.my.God. The way Edge sounds when he's choking up. Holy shit the Voice Acting. THE VOICE ACTING
how does it rate with the dinner dance
If the game does not grab me by the end of the night, I'm done with it and sending it to demi. I'm only at the end of the first planet, but so far I think this is the worst Tri-Ace beginning of a game, including both VP1 and SO3.
You should send it to me, I would be willing to give a blowjob in return. Slime would flail his hands and run into a wall
Oh, I remember the original reason I responded to this thread again. After last night, I'm kind of enjoying the game. The gameplay is acceptable and the combat is kinda fun, even if it's shallow, and there's ample customization to be had, and I'm actually kind of enjoying the presentation and VA and story in a so bad it's good kinda way. We'll see how long this stays on my now playing list.
Holy fuck at the Phantoms cutscene in disc 2.
LONG CUTSCENE IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
I am about to leavenow.. still in love with the game.spoiler (click to show/hide)50's Earth[close]
there is an old lady near the statue, i think i talked to her to let me in the distinguished mentally-challenged colosseum.
btw, I think i am in the final area and there are 3 save points here, that Jinko dude was lying or what?
the place after EN-II.
Nos something.
I hope level 60 is enough for that, i just want to end this and move on to another game.scratch that, i'm at level 73 now woot.
Like stated in the Evilbore podcast about people maxing shit out having assburgers, I think I've gone too far. I've spent a good couple of hours raising funds and buying a bunch of tri-Emblems (the real ones) from the 2nd Bonus Dungeon. Lots of grinding as far as the money went but I came back with an assload of kickass gear (and synth material in the form of tri-Emblems)
So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?
So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?
So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?
There's a lot more scifi than any other Star Ocean game. I'd say that it's about average Star Trek episode level. As in: planet-hopping with your ship, underdeveloped worlds, other space-faring races, a few developed worlds, and some alternate realities.
So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?So is there a lot of sci-fi in this game, or does it quickly become generic loli fantasy like the last game?
There's a lot more scifi than any other Star Ocean game. I'd say that it's about average Star Trek episode level. As in: planet-hopping with your ship, underdeveloped worlds, other space-faring races, a few developed worlds, and some alternate realities.
Yeah, I loved the part in Star Trek where
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starocean/images//thumb/2/26/Lymle.jpg/272px-Lymle.jpg)
Well of course it would appeal to you
Are you calling Wesley Crusher a loli?
Creepy ass mook
besides nobody in their right mind thought it would sell well.
besides nobody in their right mind thought it would sell well.
Wait, why not? SO3 is one of the best selling j-rpgs of the last ten years in the US. X360 owners buy a shitload of games. SO4 is scifi, non-cellshaded and has SquareEnix name on it. I figured it was a lock for 500k-1 million.
the voices can be turned off right?
I thought it would have done decent, but anyway sorry for the NPD insert.
now this
[youtube=560,345]mlN4E-1I80Q[/youtube]
:gerstmann
ok....
the voices can be turned off right?
Well, this is where I quit playing. That was astonishing.
just skip the cutscenes. you won't be missing much and you get a nice little synopsis when you skip'em telling you what happened
a small sacrifice i suppose.
oh well
:D That flying lady reminded me of that episode of Ren & Stimpy when they make their own cartoon
"I'm ready to throw up now, Poopy"
I thought it would have done decent, but anyway sorry for the NPD insert.
now this
[youtube=560,345]mlN4E-1I80Q[/youtube]
:gerstmann
ok....
the voices can be turned off right?
I like that scene because it reminds me of my life.
The last one did really good numbers, but really jrpgs are a dying genre due to them being jrpgs.
You guys standards are too high.
You guys standards are too high.
The "private actions" featuring the cat girl are really, really creepy
I thought it would have done decent, but anyway sorry for the NPD insert.That video actually makes me want to play the game, it's so bad and chessy, that it's good.
now this
[youtube=560,345]mlN4E-1I80Q[/youtube]
:gerstmann
ok....
the voices can be turned off right?
:lol :lol :lol It's like exactly the same. Oh god, to think that I almost bought this.
I don't get how they can actually get the voice acting to be that bad. Are they trying to emulate the Japanese voices, or something? I really don't get it. Even shit VA directors working on a dime would have it in them to get something better even out of a shit group of voice "talent."
You guys standards are too high.
Who the fuck are you
i was breezing thru the game until nox. now the enemies are hitting me for 1000hp + at a time forcing me to either grind or hunt down ingredients to create new armour.
fucking lame
why does sarah in so4 look an awful lot like a winged version of sarah from lost odyssey
oh yeah, moribund character design in jappy games
i can't believe i need to play thru multipule times to the extra ending cutscene for each character.lol tri-ace.
You can get every character ending on a single playthrough
All of the endings are short sections that play after you've beaten the game for each of the main characters and two small epilogues that will play after the credits. It is possible to unlock all nine in one playthrough. You will have to be very careful to follow the instructions for Crowe and Faize, and be diligent to find as many PA's as possible for the other characters to get them all at once. The later someone joins your party, the harder it is to get their achievement. If you follow the guide I've made here, you will get all nine at once.
Following the guide linked above will only be half the battle. The other half is to refrain from pickpocketing. If you do this often, your friends will see and lower their affinity for you. If you do choose to pickpocket (or just to get an extra affinity boost), using a Love Potion No. 256 can help.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unskippable/644-Star-Ocean-The-Last-Hope
It was the boss in the cave after you get Arumat. It was his weak point, after finding that out five minutes later he was dead. The worse part is that I have the guide and if I would've read it, I wouldn't have had that problem.
If you bothered to Analyze the Phantom Soldiers one of the factors says "Resistance against physical attacks" or some shit like that. What you do is equip the critical hit skill with anyone that has it, since critical hits ignore defense... Reimi has that skill equip plus her Special Arts tend to do a bunch of critical hits often because most of her Special Arts hit a bunch of times, so she is a good choice for that fight. Magic works well against them, too.
If you are getting gangbanged by the enemy you can either A)active rush mode to break their combo or B)Switch to another party member.
SO4 is way better than IU.
There was a shop in Roak that sold that skill.
You can put shops in your ship, but I don't think there's a Skill shop. Only item shops.
Demi: No, I never liked any SO character. I just play the games because they are fun to me.
You can create the devices via Item Creation, using engineering.
if you have Sarah you can use synthesize, so you can power up your current equipment without the need to purchase new equipment.
It was the boss in the cave after you get Arumat. It was his weak point, after finding that out five minutes later he was dead. The worse part is that I have the guide and if I would've read it, I wouldn't have had that problem.
I'm about to fight this boss. What was the weak point and what level were you? I was backing up dvds off my hard drive today so I just ran around and grinded before the phantom soldier fight until everyone was about lvl.42 with Edge at lvl.48. That phantom soldier fight wasn't hard but it was pretty annoying. I swear half the time I hit them I wouldn't do any damage but I couldn't tell why.
And I've pretty much ignored everything else. I'm going to try to get critical and start maxing that on everyone next I guess.... wow. is this your first rpg? HP boost is a complete waste of SP. It's not even that useful, considering there are other more useful skills.
So I beat it. Horrible final boss fight, just treadful. Bebpo you will not like the final boss fight :lol reading your complaints for the earlier stuff you will not like it at all. Nice ending. Probably going to go back to TLR or do optional stuff.
In the end, outside of the battles, I hated about everything in this fucking game. Terrible dungeons, super short (there's like what, 6-8 dungeons total the entire game not counting the bonus ones?), horrible story with some of the most boring cutscenes ever, shitty graphics, weak music. Man, 6/10 am total. This goes along with SO3 and SO2 in my top10 worst rpgs I've ever played list. I like Valkyrie Profile but man I hate the SO series.
In the end, outside of the battles, I hated about everything in this fucking game. Terrible dungeons, super short (there's like what, 6-8 dungeons total the entire game not counting the bonus ones?), horrible story with some of the most boring cutscenes ever, shitty graphics, weak music. Man, 6/10 am total. This goes along with SO3 and SO2 in my top10 worst rpgs I've ever played list. I like Valkyrie Profile but man I hate the SO series.
Why would you spend so much time on a game that you hate? ???
Why would you spend so much time on a game that you hate? ???
I'm like 80 hours into it, but I'm doing a lot of the optional content...
I will not buy this on PS3, I will not buy this on PS3, I will not buy this on PS3...spoiler (click to show/hide)Oh who am I kidding, I'm totally buying this next month. :'([close]
Worst RPG on the 360 besides Eternal Sonata. The combat is decent (if you're using a melee character) and sometimes the graphics can look really good, but for the most part the game sucks. Story, characters, writing and voice acting suck and there's not a whole lot of loot. Well, maybe there is if you do all the optional stuff. I skipped everything I possibly could so I dunno. Can't remember how many slots you have for equipment... maybe 5 or so? Not a whole lot.
Worst RPG on the 360 besides Eternal Sonata. The combat is decent (if you're using a melee character) and sometimes the graphics can look really good, but for the most part the game sucks. Story, characters, writing and voice acting suck and there's not a whole lot of loot. Well, maybe there is if you do all the optional stuff. I skipped everything I possibly could so I dunno. Can't remember how many slots you have for equipment... maybe 5 or so? Not a whole lot.
Yeah, the impressions I've read sound bad but how does the guy above have 80 hours into it if it's the worst rpg on the 360? did anyone at all like it? i mean it's prob gonna be like 20-30 bucks