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Title: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:35:26 PM
PlayStation 2 41.6K
PlayStation 3 276.9K
PSP 100.1K
Xbox 360 332.8K
Wii 465.8K
Nintendo DS 422.2K


NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA Nov-09 656.7K
MASS EFFECT 2* 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS Jan-10 572.1K
WII FIT PLUS W/ BALANCE BOARD* WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA Oct-09 555.7K
CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2* 360 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD Nov-09 326.7K
MARIO KART W/ WHEEL WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 310.9K
SPORTS RESORT W/ WII MOTION PLUS* WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA Jul-09 297.6K
CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2* PS3 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD Nov-09 259.0K
ARMY OF TWO: THE 40TH DAY 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS Jan-10 246.5K
JUST DANCE WII UBISOFT Nov-09 191.9K
DARKSIDERS 360 THQ Jan-10 171.2k
Title: Re: January NPD (or Lurker Day)
Post by: MCD on February 11, 2010, 06:35:55 PM
:bow Just Dance :bow2
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 06:37:50 PM
360 vs PS3 hardware = 360 vs PS3 MW2. Funny.


But it's sad how polluted the top games list is with the same Nintendo junk. I've learned to filter and ignore Mario Kart, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, etc.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2010, 06:37:59 PM
:bow Mass Effect 2 :bow2
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2010, 06:38:49 PM
But it's sad how polluted the top games list is with the same Nintendo junk.

(http://www.evilbore.com/forum/Smileys/default/5x0jee.gif)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:39:11 PM
:bow Mass Effect 2 :bow2

Where's MAG?


spoiler (click to show/hide)
I tease
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Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 06:39:57 PM
It's like the NY Times Bestseller list. At what point does it actually hurt the listing?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 11, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
What the fuck is Just Dance? :lol
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
What the fuck is Just Dance? :lol

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-just-dance/17-1776/
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 06:41:58 PM
Bayonetta.  :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 11, 2010, 06:42:39 PM
BOMBANETTA

BAYOBOMBA

BAYONETTOMB

BAYOMBANETTA

Guess that's a no on the sequel.  and imminent doom for Clover..AGAIN.  fuck.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 11, 2010, 06:43:47 PM
Xbots win :elephant
:bow Mass Effect 2 :bow2

Bayonetta :'( :'(



PS3 annihilated...no games,except MW2

Nintendo... :yuck...who cares
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 06:44:07 PM
Didn't like Bayonetta.
It's what they get for releasing a PS3 build that's half-done.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 06:44:46 PM
Kamiya forever doomed to obscurity. 
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: duckman2000 on February 11, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
I thought Darksiders would sell more than that. There was a lot of positive hype about it around release.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Third on February 11, 2010, 06:46:44 PM
Just Dance even selling well in the US? :lol

Name of the game should be changed to Just Kill Yourself. What an awful game.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 06:47:29 PM
Wasn't EA gloating about how they shipped 2 million copies of Mass Effect 2 in its first week?  These are six days of sales.  Were they including european shipments in that press release?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
Maybe once Japan and such is factored in there will be a Bayonetta sequel. It's probably in the top 20 if not top 15. That game was always going to be a hard sell in America. It looks very Japanese which is a turnoff in this market. Americans like their action brawlers to sort of look and feel like God of War.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 11, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
Actually SEGA sold(shipped) 1.1 million copies,i think that sequel is guaranteed

But still...damn xbots,why didnt you buy Bayonetta? :'( :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Beezy on February 11, 2010, 06:48:52 PM
Didn't like Bayonetta.
It's what they get for releasing a PS3 build that's half-done.
You didn't like Bayonetta or you didn't like the PS3 port? Let me know if it's the first so I can ignore your gaming opinions from now on.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:49:13 PM
I thought Darksiders would sell more than that. There was a lot of positive hype about it around release.

I'm surprised it did as well as it did. Not a lot of marketing and I barely knew anything about it very close to its release.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 06:49:43 PM
But still...damn xbots,why didnt you buy Bayonetta? :'( :'(

They're to busy buying Modern Spamfare and Army of Bros. :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 11, 2010, 06:51:00 PM
I thought Darksiders would sell more than that. There was a lot of positive hype about it around release.

yeah because hype always equals sales. Looks like it didnt do too badly IMO
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 06:51:04 PM
Nintendo #1 as usual  :miyamoto

I thought Mass Effect 2 sold 2 million in a week?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
I thought Mass Effect 2 sold 2 million in a week?

That's because you are dumb.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 11, 2010, 06:53:52 PM
apparently Army of Bros 2 is even more distinguished mentally-challenged than the original. How the hell does this series sell so well? I will rent it for a laugh but refuse to be part of the problem here
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 06:54:08 PM
I played the japanese PS3 demo and felt the game was about flash more than substance. Like if Devil May Cry had constant Maxim-ish nudity and even more scripted attack sequences.
Nothing inherently WRONG with it, but after the second time she lost all her clothes and did the exact same maneuver I got bored. Kinda like Gungrave.
I didn't feel like I had CONTROL of what was going on, rather it was presented TO me.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Great Rumbler on February 11, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
Mass Effect 2 :rock
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Third on February 11, 2010, 06:56:07 PM
apparently Army of Bros 2 is even more distinguished mentally-challenged than the original. How the hell does this series sell so well?

Because it got released during this generation. It's not the first distinguished mentally-challenged game that's selling well.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: demi on February 11, 2010, 06:56:45 PM
But still...damn xbots,why didnt you buy Bayonetta? :'( :'(

They're to busy buying Modern Spamfare and Army of Bros. :'(

And you were doing...
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
apparently Army of Bros 2 is even more distinguished mentally-challenged than the original. How the hell does this series sell so well? I will rent it for a laugh but refuse to be part of the problem here

When the original released on the 360 it sold this:

360  ARMY OF TWO ELECTRONIC ARTS Mar-08 606.1K


Its a bad series on the decline.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 06:57:24 PM
I thought Mass Effect 2 sold 2 million in a week?

That's because you are dumb.

 :miyamoto
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2010, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: TripleA
I thought Mass Effect 2 sold 2 million in a week?

That press release was a) for shipped units and b) worldwide. You already knew that, though. Quit being dumb.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
But still...damn xbots,why didnt you buy Bayonetta? :'( :'(

They're to busy buying Modern Spamfare and Army of Bros. :'(

And you were doing...

He was playing "music" games.

 :rofl
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: demi on February 11, 2010, 06:58:16 PM
> HE PLAYS WITH PLASTIC INSTRUMENTS
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 06:58:49 PM
I almost 5 starred Hangar 18 today. :smug

I played the japanese PS3 demo and felt the game was about flash more than substance. Like if Devil May Cry had constant Maxim-ish nudity and even more scripted attack sequences.
Nothing inherently WRONG with it, but after the second time she lost all her clothes and did the exact same maneuver I got bored. Kinda like Gungrave.
I didn't feel like I had CONTROL of what was going on, rather it was presented TO me.

It is cliche, but the demo is not a good representation of the final game.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 11, 2010, 06:59:22 PM
GAF is actually functional.  I'm surprised!

Unlike me seeing Bayonetta not make the Top 10.  The game is flat out embarrassing.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 11, 2010, 07:00:21 PM
I almost 5 starred Hangar 18 today. :smug



If only you could put that on a resume. (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=73;type=avatar)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 07:01:20 PM
So you're saying the game isn't about a sexy woman who's like Dante? It's not a bad thing, but...

Bayonetta -> DMC4
Darksiders - > Zelda
Dante's Inferno -> God of War

When games change camera perspective to show off the move, it takes you out of the moment if you stop realizing you're not the character. It's jarring, really.

I might pick it up when it hits the bargain bin. (Sooner than later) But I actually did enjoy playing a bit of AoT:40th Day with a friend, although it does have obvious flaws. (Certain checkpoint placement is distinguished mentally-challenged)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 07:01:31 PM
I almost 5 starred Hangar 18 today. :smug



If only you could put that on a resume. (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=73;type=avatar)

>Worked in audit department
>5 stars Megadeth songs in Rock Band
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 07:02:32 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 11, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
The upside to all of this is that there is solid proof that not all publishers should jam all of their flagship wares during the last three months of the year.  Maybe we'll start seeing a more even distribution of big titles throughout the year.

Edit: I'd be curious to see how Bayonetta sold 1.1 million.  Even if it is shipped, that means there is a lot of unsold copies out there.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Beezy on February 11, 2010, 07:03:37 PM
I played the japanese PS3 demo and felt the game was about flash more than substance. Like if Devil May Cry had constant Maxim-ish nudity and even more scripted attack sequences.
Nothing inherently WRONG with it, but after the second time she lost all her clothes and did the exact same maneuver I got bored. Kinda like Gungrave.
I didn't feel like I had CONTROL of what was going on, rather it was presented TO me.
::)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bildi on February 11, 2010, 07:13:01 PM
Shipped vs sold - nobody cares.

Glad to hear Bayonetta is selling well, bodes well for a sequel.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 11, 2010, 07:14:25 PM
Unlike me seeing Bayonetta not make the Top 10.  The game is flat out embarrassing.

Fuck off loser.

Bayo shipped 1.1 million. Sega most likely made its money. I'm hopeful for a sequel.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 07:14:59 PM
Shipped vs sold - nobody cares.

Glad to hear Bayonetta is selling well, bodes well for a sequel.

Well I hope you're kidding.  Unsold copies in the retail channel aren't a good thing. 

edit:
Unlike me seeing Bayonetta not make the Top 10.  The game is flat out embarrassing.

Fuck off loser.

Bayo shipped 1.1 million. Sega most likely made its money. I'm hopeful for a sequel.

Seriously guys, its important what the sell through is.  You can like a game and understand it didn't perform well in the marketplace.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 07:16:15 PM
Love to see folks bashing Bayonetta, most of them basing their bashing on either a quick playthrough of the demo or being somehow "embarrassed" by the game's aesthetics.  Makes it easy to figure out whose opinions to ignore on games in the future.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 07:18:16 PM
Yeah. Man, who judges a game based off a demo? It's not like they release for people to determine whether they want the game or not. You should also tell me if you bought Dead or Alive Extreme games, so I can ignore YOUR gaming tastes. Hurr hurr.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
Oh and I just want to be mad at you all for shuffling Segata off of the bore coil.  I always appreciate whatever leaks he could give us.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 07:20:02 PM
It's so weird to see people somehow still hoping against hope that the PS3 is going to catch up to the 360. This generation has been decided.  It's BEEN decided for at least the last two years.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 07:20:47 PM
Yeah. Man, who judges a game based off a demo? It's not like they release for people to determine whether they want the game or not. You should also tell me if you bought Dead or Alive Extreme games, so I can ignore YOUR gaming tastes. Hurr hurr.

I didn't buy those games.  Never been a fan of the 3D fighter genre in its entirety.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 07:22:01 PM
Shipped vs sold - nobody cares.

Except for the maker of the game, publisher of the game, and pretty much all retailers.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 07:22:03 PM
It's so weird to see people somehow still hoping against hope that the PS3 is going to catch up to the 360. This generation has been decided.  It's BEEN decided for at least the last two years.

I'm counting 3?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2010, 07:22:36 PM
Reason #354645131431 why if you are not making a Nintendo 1st party game, a Madden/Fifa game, or a Call of Duty game your budget manager should cap your game budget at <5 million or he's doing a bad job.

Or you can be like Japan where they know they're fucked and so the average budget for a game is ~500k
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bildi on February 11, 2010, 07:22:49 PM
Shipped vs sold - nobody cares.

Glad to hear Bayonetta is selling well, bodes well for a sequel.

Well I hope you're kidding.  Unsold copies in the retail channel aren't a good thing.

Not kidding, don't care.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Oblivion on February 11, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
BOMBANETTA

BAYOBOMBA

BAYONETTOMB

BAYOMBANETTA

Guess that's a no on the sequel.  and imminent doom for Clover..AGAIN.  fuck.

It'll join the pile of commercially unsuccessful message board darlings along with Obombi.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:pimp
[close]
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 07:23:54 PM
Oh and I just want to be mad at you all for shuffling Segata off of the bore coil.  I always appreciate whatever leaks he could give us.

What happened to Segata Sanshiro?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 07:24:51 PM
Oh and I just want to be mad at you all for shuffling Segata off of the bore coil.  I always appreciate whatever leaks he could give us.

What happened to Segata Sanshiro?

Drama scared him off.  :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 07:24:56 PM
It's so weird to see people somehow still hoping against hope that the PS3 is going to catch up to the 360. This generation has been decided.  It's BEEN decided for at least the last two years.

Except for the fact that game budgets require releases on BOTH platforms now to make it viable. A slight lead means nothing.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2010, 07:25:21 PM
Seriously guys, its important what the sell through is.  You can like a game and understand it didn't perform well in the marketplace.

Depends.  If you can convince stores your game is gonna be BIG and ship them x amount of copies, you win.
The problem is that next time around they might not be fooled so easily.


While it's sad, for the most part the game market is not decided by how many people actually buy a game but by how well a company markets a game to stores.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 07:27:30 PM
Shipped vs sold - nobody cares.

Glad to hear Bayonetta is selling well, bodes well for a sequel.

Well I hope you're kidding.  Unsold copies in the retail channel aren't a good thing.

Not kidding, don't care.

See this is the part where you're mistaken.  This is why the whole shipped vs. sold argument is bought about.  Stoney Mason had a good point that the decent japanese sales might convince sega to publish a sequel.  Yet shipping 1.1 million copies worldwide means alot of product is just sitting there on the shelf.  This is dumb thing to discuss until we get the top 20 though.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 07:28:32 PM
It's so weird to see people somehow still hoping against hope that the PS3 is going to catch up to the 360. This generation has been decided.  It's BEEN decided for at least the last two years.

Except for the fact that game budgets require releases on BOTH platforms now to make it viable. A slight lead means nothing.

For forum-dwellers, it means everything.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
It's so weird to see people somehow still hoping against hope that the PS3 is going to catch up to the 360. This generation has been decided.  It's BEEN decided for at least the last two years.

Except for the fact that game budgets require releases on BOTH platforms now to make it viable. A slight lead means nothing.

For forum-dwellers, it means everything.

demeaning yourself is a new hobby?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 11, 2010, 07:33:09 PM
I played the japanese PS3 demo and felt the game was about flash more than substance. Like if Devil May Cry had constant Maxim-ish nudity and even more scripted attack sequences.
Nothing inherently WRONG with it, but after the second time she lost all her clothes and did the exact same maneuver I got bored. Kinda like Gungrave.
I didn't feel like I had CONTROL of what was going on, rather it was presented TO me.
Stop playing games at all...sorry
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: GoofyGoober on February 11, 2010, 07:38:06 PM
Sony's Spin "PlayStation was the only company to see consumers in three territories (UK, US and Japan) spending 15% more on PS3 software in 2009 than they did in 2008 – this is while the category as a whole experienced a 9% decline in software sales. We’re nowhere near slowing down in the new year as today’s NPD numbers show a 36% sales increase on PS3 hardware when compared to last January."

You would think they would have another game in the top 10.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: M3wThr33 on February 11, 2010, 07:38:55 PM
I played the japanese PS3 demo and felt the game was about flash more than substance. Like if Devil May Cry had constant Maxim-ish nudity and even more scripted attack sequences.
Nothing inherently WRONG with it, but after the second time she lost all her clothes and did the exact same maneuver I got bored. Kinda like Gungrave.
I didn't feel like I had CONTROL of what was going on, rather it was presented TO me.
Stop playing games at all...sorry

I'll kick your ass at Mafia Wars and Peggle.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bildi on February 11, 2010, 07:43:15 PM
See this is the part where you're mistaken.  This is why the whole shipped vs. sold argument is bought about.  Stoney Mason had a good point that the decent japanese sales might convince sega to publish a sequel.  Yet shipping 1.1 million copies worldwide means alot of product is just sitting there on the shelf.  This is dumb thing to discuss until we get the top 20 though.

Dude, this isn't gaf.  A bunch of copies of Bayonetta went out, I think that's good.  It doesn't go any deeper than that.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Rob on February 11, 2010, 07:47:46 PM
Looks like Capcom had two mega bombs in a row on the HD consoles with Bionic Commando, and Dark Void.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 07:48:02 PM
See this is the part where you're mistaken.  This is why the whole shipped vs. sold argument is bought about.  Stoney Mason had a good point that the decent japanese sales might convince sega to publish a sequel.  Yet shipping 1.1 million copies worldwide means alot of product is just sitting there on the shelf.  This is dumb thing to discuss until we get the top 20 though.

Dude, this isn't gaf.  A bunch of copies of Bayonetta went out, I think that's good.  It doesn't go any deeper than that.

Oh, to be young and happily naive.
:(
:p
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Raban on February 11, 2010, 07:49:17 PM
BOMBANETTA

BAYOBOMBA

BAYONETTOMB

BAYOMBANETTA

Guess that's a no on the sequel.  and imminent doom for Clover..AGAIN.  fuck.

Clover is like Bison. Dies all the time.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 07:51:40 PM
Looks like Capcom had two mega bombs in a row on the HD consoles with Bionic Commando, and Dark Void.

That's what happens when you trust Western developers. :smug
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 07:54:10 PM
Sony's Spin "PlayStation was the only company to see consumers in three territories (UK, US and Japan) spending 15% more on PS3 software in 2009 than they did in 2008 – this is while the category as a whole experienced a 9% decline in software sales. We’re nowhere near slowing down in the new year as today’s NPD numbers show a 36% sales increase on PS3 hardware when compared to last January."

You would think they would have another game in the top 10.

That's not spin buddy, that's factual information  :)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bildi on February 11, 2010, 07:54:32 PM
Oh, to be young and happily naive.
:(
:p

I realise the high intellectual calibre of my usual posting may give the impression I am interested in sophisticated analysis. :)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Brehvolution on February 11, 2010, 07:55:10 PM
+1 Feb. NPD for Titan Quest Gold.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: magus on February 11, 2010, 07:55:25 PM
BOMBANETTA

BAYOBOMBA

BAYONETTOMB

BAYOMBANETTA

Guess that's a no on the sequel.  and imminent doom for Clover..AGAIN.  fuck.

Clover is like Zero. Dies all the time but keeps resurrecting.
Fixed
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bildi on February 11, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
Sony's Spin "PlayStation was the only company to see consumers in three territories (UK, US and Japan) spending 15% more on PS3 software in 2009 than they did in 2008 – this is while the category as a whole experienced a 9% decline in software sales. We’re nowhere near slowing down in the new year as today’s NPD numbers show a 36% sales increase on PS3 hardware when compared to last January."

You would think they would have another game in the top 10.

That's not spin buddy, that's factual information  :)

PlayStation®3 - Room to Grow
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 07:59:04 PM
Oh, to be young and happily naive.
:(
:p

I realise the high intellectual calibre of my usual posting may give the impression I am interested in sophisticated analysis. :)

Truth be told I'm just playing the coy fanboy who wants to directly compare the bayonetta bomba to the madworld bomba last year.  I've waited a long time for this.

 :shh :shh :shh
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bildi on February 11, 2010, 08:00:47 PM
Proceed with jubilance.

:elephant
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 08:02:02 PM
Didn't Madworld bomb critically as well as saleswise?  Whereas Bayonetta, if nothing else, has been critically acclaimed across the board by both reviewers and players.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 11, 2010, 08:05:11 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Seriously guys, its important what the sell through is.  You can like a game and understand it didn't perform well in the marketplace.

Depends.  If you can convince stores your game is gonna be BIG and ship them x amount of copies, you win.
The problem is that next time around they might not be fooled so easily.


While it's sad, for the most part the game market is not decided by how many people actually buy a game but by how well a company markets a game to stores.

yes
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 08:06:01 PM
Well, I liked madworld.  It was like a good No More Heroes.  But as a sales cigarillo I'm on the lookout for easy parallels between products.  Both have weird art styles, made by the same company, published by the same company, similar genre, decent advertising for both as far as I'm concerned.  So its a better barometer for the market trends on the different platforms.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 08:08:08 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Seriously guys, its important what the sell through is.  You can like a game and understand it didn't perform well in the marketplace.

Depends.  If you can convince stores your game is gonna be BIG and ship them x amount of copies, you win.
The problem is that next time around they might not be fooled so easily.


While it's sad, for the most part the game market is not decided by how many people actually buy a game but by how well a company markets a game to stores.

yes

So sega approaches retailers with Yakuza 3 or some other game now.  What is the retailer going to consider in this scenario?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Damian79 on February 11, 2010, 08:09:55 PM
Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

It doesnt really matter though because retailers return the game if they cant sell it getting some of the money back or atleast thats how it works in Australia.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 08:11:12 PM
Isn't NPD just US sales anyway?  Bayonetta shipped 1.1 million internationally.  How'd it sell in Japan and Europe?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Trent Dole on February 11, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
..how the fuck did they sell so many Wiis when I've not seen any available since before xmas time  ??? The fucking thing NEVER dies despite its lack of software in comparison to the other two platforms.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 08:13:21 PM
Isn't NPD just US sales anyway?  Bayonetta shipped 1.1 million internationally.  How'd it sell in Japan and Europe?

I want to say it did around 350kish in Japan between the two platforms.  Don't peg me on that though.  Getting numbers out of Europe is very very very rare outside of some pr statements. 
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
Isn't NPD just US sales anyway?  Bayonetta shipped 1.1 million internationally.  How'd it sell in Japan and Europe?

It sold decently well in Japan relative to that market size and who knows in Europe (although I wouldn't guess it sold overly well). But let's not kid ourselves. The US is the dominant and largest market so it matters a great deal how it performs here.

Just be happy we got a good game whether a sequel is coming or not and consider the sequel "extra" if it does come.

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Damian79 on February 11, 2010, 08:16:50 PM
..how the fuck did they sell so many Wiis when I've not seen any available since before xmas time  ??? The fucking thing NEVER dies despite its lack of software in comparison to the other two platforms.

Doesnt need software, it has wii sports.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 08:16:58 PM
I wonder how it did in Asia...I know the Asian version came out some time after the Japanese version.

The European version was also the only one to have a limited edition with a replica of one of Bayonetta's guns, so maybe they had good expectations for sales there?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: pilonv1 on February 11, 2010, 08:26:36 PM
Come back segata :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 08:27:22 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Rob on February 11, 2010, 08:32:10 PM
Damn, NMH2 <30,000. How soon until this releases on the HD consoles
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 11, 2010, 08:33:03 PM
Come back segata :'(

He was hardly a regular when he was here.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 08:33:19 PM
Damn, NMH2 <30,000. How soon until this releases on the HD consoles

Ha, thats like under half of the original's first month sales. 
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 08:35:21 PM
Man, I really want the NMH games and Muramasa to come out via XBLA or something...
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 11, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 08:36:19 PM
Come back segata :'(

He was hardly a regular when he was here.

He was a good poster, though. :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 11, 2010, 08:36:52 PM
Come back segata :'(

He was hardly a regular when he was here.

He was a good poster, though. :'(

I'm not disagreeing.  I'm just saying his posting was pretty infrequent.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Rob on February 11, 2010, 08:39:05 PM
Damn, NMH2 <30,000. How soon until this releases on the HD consoles

Ha, thats like under half of the original's first month sales. 

Yeah, I really liked the first one. I still need to buy this game.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 11, 2010, 08:40:39 PM
HEY GUYS IS IT SHIPPED OR SOLD! YOU SHOULD CARE! MISLEADING SALES FIGURES!
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 08:41:46 PM
HEY GUYS IS IT SHIPPED OR SOLD! YOU SHOULD CARE! MISLEADING SALES FIGURES!

:miyamoto
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bocsius on February 11, 2010, 08:43:23 PM
The Bayonetta intro video or whatever was the dumbest thing I think I have ever seen. Would never consider playing the game.

Mass Effect 2, on the other hand, is still next on the list. Actually, the Dragon Age expansion will probably get played first. So next next.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 08:46:13 PM
The Bayonetta intro video or whatever was the dumbest thing I think I have ever seen. Would never consider playing the game. :smug

Cool story, bro.

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 08:57:54 PM
Somehow, I thought ME2 would do better.

5 days of NPD numbers. Not too bad for that.

I'm guessing it will chart next month also. And have pretty good long term sales and strong word of mouth.

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
Bayonetta PS3 <66,000
Bayonetta 360 <138,000

 :japancry
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 11, 2010, 09:05:17 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
:'(

Well I had the first day numbers instead of the first week.  I corrected it, but it's still not very good!
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 11, 2010, 09:07:21 PM
HEY GUYS IS IT SHIPPED OR SOLD! YOU SHOULD CARE! MISLEADING SALES FIGURES!

:miyamoto

[youtube=560,345]enwWPWRHksg[/youtube]

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 09:09:39 PM
Bayonetta PS3 <66,000
Bayonetta 360 <138,000

 :japancry

NPD?

So anyway, that's over 200K in the US, 350K in Japan...add Asia and Europe...
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
"B360>BPS3>TVC>NMH2"

hmmm, Not much to go on here.  I guess there is some justice in that the 360 version outsold the ps3 one.  Anyone expecting TVC to do anything more than terrible were kidding themselves. They can't even sell the damn thing in japan.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 09:15:19 PM
HEY GUYS IS IT SHIPPED OR SOLD! YOU SHOULD CARE! MISLEADING SALES FIGURES!

:miyamoto

[youtube=560,345]enwWPWRHksg[/youtube]



I like the attention you're giving me.  Hmmm feels so good.  But games aren't candy bars and are too expensive to compare/asspie

edit: damn I do want a wonka bar.  But like, the unobtainable perfection that is the wonka bars portrayed in the movie.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 09:16:41 PM
"B360>BPS3>TVC>NMH2"

hmmm, Not much to go on here.  I guess there is some justice in that the 360 version outsold the ps3 one.  Anyone expecting TVC to do anything more than terrible were kidding themselves. They can't even sell the damn thing in japan.

At least with MvC, the characters were known.  Who in America knows about any of the Tatsunoko characters outside of Gatchaman?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 09:17:36 PM
"B360>BPS3>TVC>NMH2"

hmmm, Not much to go on here.  I guess there is some justice in that the 360 version outsold the ps3 one.  Anyone expecting TVC to do anything more than terrible were kidding themselves. They can't even sell the damn thing in japan.

At least with MvC, the characters were known.  Who in America knows about any of the Tatsunoko characters outside of Gatchaman?

What's a gatchaman?
???

edit: is that a digimon?  I liked wargreymon myself.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 09:20:35 PM
Gatchaman = Battle of the Planets = G-Force

Old show that aired on American TV in the '80s.  It's the only Tatsunoko show featured in the game that I imagine anyone in the US knows.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bocsius on February 11, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
The neogaf kids are surprised that Bayonetta didn't chart? Seriously?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Beezy on February 11, 2010, 09:32:24 PM
The neogaf kids are surprised that Bayonetta didn't chart? Seriously?
I thought DMC fans would buy it especially after seeing all the great reviews, but I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 11, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
The neogaf kids are surprised that Bayonetta didn't chart? Seriously?

Group think bubble creates unrealistic expectations. And then expresses surprise when the real world intrudes.

Its a darn good game imo from the little bit I've played. But all the things that are cool in it that attract the hardcore also works towards repelling the mainstream. A movie like that wouldn't do big box office so why would people expect a videogame using that same material to.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 11, 2010, 09:33:32 PM
I also didn't realize Bombanettabore was so butthurt about any slights about the game.

The gameplay is good enough (though it isn't for me after renting it) but everything else about the game is designed to keep it away from the registers.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 09:33:55 PM
The neogaf kids are surprised that Bayonetta didn't chart? Seriously?
I thought DMC fans would buy it especially after seeing all the great reviews, but I guess I was wrong.

Game has a 90% on Metacritic, pretty much every review I read RAVED about it, I figured it would do at least a bit better than it did.

It's embarrassing that shit like Darksiders ranked higher than Bayonetta, that's for sure.

Doesn't matter.  At the end of the day, Bayonetta is still the Action Game of the Generation. :smug
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 09:37:19 PM
Because it helps my argument to say it is. :smug
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 09:37:52 PM
"Bayonetta PS3 < JP Bayonetta 3601stWEEK < Bayonetta 360 < JP Bayonetta PS31stWEEK"

Hmmm, so there is a chance that it cracked 100k.  But expect that to be the end of it.

wait is that what archie was posting?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 11, 2010, 09:39:38 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

looks like were going to to have to spell this out in plain english for our TripleA:

1 million units shipped counts a decent numbers, as the STORES have paid for one million copies from Sega. Store pays publisher for product (shipped), we pay store and get our game (sales).
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 09:40:16 PM
"Bayonetta PS3 < JP Bayonetta 3601stWEEK < Bayonetta 360 < JP Bayonetta PS31stWEEK"

Hmmm, so there is a chance that it cracked 100k.  But expect that to be the end of it.

wait is that what archie was posting?

I'm still not sure if archie posted JP or US numbers.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 09:43:06 PM
"Bayonetta PS3 < JP Bayonetta 3601stWEEK < Bayonetta 360 < JP Bayonetta PS31stWEEK"

Hmmm, so there is a chance that it cracked 100k.  But expect that to be the end of it.

wait is that what archie was posting?

I'm still not sure if archie posted JP or US numbers.

No he took what creamsugar said and made it less cryptic.  So yeah, archie is posting the ballpark figures for bayonetta.  MEGA BOMBA.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 11, 2010, 09:44:09 PM
And its really no surprise that the sell through for Bayonetta hasnt been great. The wacky jappy aesthetic would turn the majority of US Xbox owners away from the game. Darksiders outsold it as its just your typical buff warrior types cruising around looking for bros, which is what the game companies think that it is so marketable
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 11, 2010, 09:45:29 PM
"Bayonetta PS3 < JP Bayonetta 3601stWEEK < Bayonetta 360 < JP Bayonetta PS31stWEEK"

Hmmm, so there is a chance that it cracked 100k.  But expect that to be the end of it.

wait is that what archie was posting?

I'm still not sure if archie posted JP or US numbers.

No he took what creamsugar said and made it less cryptic.  So yeah, archie is posting the ballpark figures for bayonetta.  MEGA BOMBA.

No More Heroes 2 - 33,000

ATOMIC BOMBA
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 11, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
at least it didnt do as bad as Headhunter: Redemption lolzlzlz
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2010, 09:48:43 PM
And its really no surprise that the sell through for Bayonetta hasnt been great. The wacky jappy aesthetic would turn the majority of US Xbox owners away from the game. Darksiders outsold it as its just your typical buff warrior types cruising around looking for bros, which is what the game companies think that it is so marketable

I think the problem is the only marketing this game got on the internets was a big flashing word of mouth that PS3 VERSION SUCKS.  So PS3 owners were scared off and that just left the X360 owners and yeah it was too wacky jappy for them.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2010, 09:49:39 PM
Can't say I'm sad to see NMH2 bomba-ing.  I like grasshopper a lot but I don't want them to milk this series any longer.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 09:51:01 PM
"Bayonetta PS3 < JP Bayonetta 3601stWEEK < Bayonetta 360 < JP Bayonetta PS31stWEEK"

Hmmm, so there is a chance that it cracked 100k.  But expect that to be the end of it.

wait is that what archie was posting?

I'm still not sure if archie posted JP or US numbers.

No he took what creamsugar said and made it less cryptic.  So yeah, archie is posting the ballpark figures for bayonetta.  MEGA BOMBA.

No More Heroes 2 - 33,000

ATOMIC BOMBA

We've talked about this already.  I can honestly say I never liked the games anyway.  :smug
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Brehvolution on February 11, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
Video game sales = Video game taste vindication?

Is that what it boils down to?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 09:55:04 PM
Video game sales = Video game taste vindication?

Is that what it boils down to?

Maybe on a subconscious level.  But then again a shitty game deserves to sell poorly.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Brehvolution on February 11, 2010, 09:57:10 PM
That's not what I'm reading in this thread so far. :smug
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 11, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
Well, I'm just saying if the original game was a piece of shit, then I see no reason for the sequel to do better.  Just referring to NMH.  Worst " high profile" game of 2008 by far.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 10:04:02 PM
Video game sales = Video game taste vindication?

Is that what it boils down to?

If it boiled down to that, it would mean Wii owners have the best taste of all.

Nintendosbooger...redeemed?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Robo on February 11, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
Video game sales = Video game taste vindication?

Is that what it boils down to?

If it boiled down to that, it would mean Wii owners have the best taste of all.


 :miyamoto
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 11, 2010, 10:19:04 PM
has shiggy w/ shades been posted at GAF yet?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 11:06:52 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

Can you not answer a simple fucking question?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 11, 2010, 11:08:34 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

looks like were going to to have to spell this out in plain english for our TripleA:

1 million units shipped counts a decent numbers, as the STORES have paid for one million copies from Sega. Store pays publisher for product (shipped), we pay store and get our game (sales).

Or perhaps you missed the bolded part.

It happens, I understand.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Purple Filth on February 12, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
Numbers are ok i guess

 :japancry @ ps2
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: etiolate on February 12, 2010, 12:12:34 AM
Video game sales = Video game taste vindication?

Is that what it boils down to?

It did last gen. And others. This isn't anything new.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Human Snorenado on February 12, 2010, 12:49:45 AM
Video game sales = Video game taste vindication?

Is that what it boils down to?

It did last gen. And others. This isn't anything new.

Yes, but this gen Nintendo isn't bothering to make video games.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: etiolate on February 12, 2010, 01:00:50 AM
Except for like half of the top ten sellers every month, you're almost right!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I agree they just took a vacation after Mario Galaxy and sat fat and lazy on the bounty of their sales.
[close]
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2010, 01:55:45 AM
Wow I'm lttp, totally forgot about npd day

MS stays on top, never gonna flop
PS3 lookin like Rosie O'Donnel at a bisexual bridal shower
Nintendo stays in the shade, came out but was already in the gay parade
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Raban on February 12, 2010, 03:50:23 AM
WILLCO: leper Damian and TripleA.

Restore EB to its former glory :'(

They should get banned.

But instead of getting banned, they should be given accounts to NeoGAF.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 12, 2010, 05:15:09 AM
Lol Ps3 is back at its old spot.

I want more ME2 sales or i'll fucking hate nuke the world.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: MCD on February 12, 2010, 06:10:25 AM
The US prefers blood and gore not japy wacky fuck.

NGII at least charted once in NPD at 400k or so.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Damian79 on February 12, 2010, 06:11:56 AM
WILLCO: leper Damian and TripleA.

Restore EB to its former glory :'(

Wtf, you are just pissed that i think that FFXII is a terrible game.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 12, 2010, 07:07:33 AM
PS3 will return to its old spot because the positions of the generation were cemented after the first year or two.  The 360, much like the PS2 the previous generation, is the preferred multiplatform system to the masses.  Although it probably won't see the dismal performances it had this time last year though but it will remain in third place for the rest of this generation.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 12, 2010, 07:12:02 AM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

Can you not answer a simple fucking question?

Can you? Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged or not?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: demi on February 12, 2010, 07:12:26 AM
People are just now getting dat tax return. Will see a spike in sales.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: tiesto on February 12, 2010, 10:19:43 AM
Surprised not to find Bayo on the list, I know plenty of people who bought it and absolutely loved it. I still haven't gotten around to picking a copy up for myself. But what I've seen looks great.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
Bayonetta was never going to chart, let's be real :lol
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Robo on February 12, 2010, 11:24:03 AM
Bayonetta > Brutal Legend, by a country mile.  :patel
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 12, 2010, 11:30:58 AM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

Can you not answer a simple fucking question?

Can you? Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged or not?

So you can't answer a simple fucking question?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 12, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
PS3 is done for and hell it was done for for the last 3 years.

It is kind of sad the only PS3 titles that break "millon copies sold" barrier are shitty multiplatform titles like Modern Warfare 2 or another FIFA game.

I will still own one for GoW3 and FF13 though.

 :drake
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 12, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

Can you not answer a simple fucking question?

Can you? Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged or not?

So you can't answer a simple fucking question?

Why are you wearing that bunny suit?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 12, 2010, 11:40:54 AM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

Can you not answer a simple fucking question?

Can you? Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged or not?

So you can't answer a simple fucking question?

Can you not read the responses in your own quote pile?

Does it even matter now that we got the sold-through numbers and know that Bayonetta sold through half of its initial shipment in just two countries?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Third on February 12, 2010, 11:46:32 AM
Gotta love piramide quoting.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 12, 2010, 12:10:58 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

Can you not answer a simple fucking question?

Can you? Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged or not?

So you can't answer a simple fucking question?

Can you not read the responses in your own quote pile?

Does it even matter now that we got the sold-through numbers and know that Bayonetta sold through half of its initial shipment in just two countries?

Did you miss the part where I asked about the 1 million figure?

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 12, 2010, 12:34:21 PM
Surprised not to find Bayo on the list, I know plenty of people who bought it and absolutely loved it. I still haven't gotten around to picking a copy up for myself. But what I've seen looks great.

I had the opposite experience - I knew one person who got Bayonetta, like six who got Darksiders, and everybody and their dog bought Mass Effect 2.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 12, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
Bayonetta's sold over a million copies worldwide, don't think it qualifies as a bomb.

Those are shipped numbers.

Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.


Ah, so those Bayonetta numbers aren't shipped numbers?



Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged?

Can you not answer a simple fucking question?

Can you? Are you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged or not?

So you can't answer a simple fucking question?

Can you not read the responses in your own quote pile?

Does it even matter now that we got the sold-through numbers and know that Bayonetta sold through half of its initial shipment in just two countries?

Did you miss the part where I asked about the 1 million figure?



Do you understand who pays the publisher for the game dude? It's not you and me.

Capcom has sold 1.1M copies of the game. Retailers resold 550k in two territories in the launch month. Call that 800k globally? If retailers are not happy selling 800k copies in the first month, perhaps they will only order .8M copies of Capcom's next theoretical new IP action game. Who gives a shit?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 12, 2010, 01:25:36 PM
(http://www.gamasutra.com/images/top-20-jan-2010.png)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: tiesto on February 12, 2010, 01:27:16 PM
Surprised not to find Bayo on the list, I know plenty of people who bought it and absolutely loved it. I still haven't gotten around to picking a copy up for myself. But what I've seen looks great.

I had the opposite experience - I knew one person who got Bayonetta, like six who got Darksiders, and everybody and their dog bought Mass Effect 2.

Interesting, I don't know anybody who even knows what Darksiders is (hell, I never even heard of it till the EB discussion thread), and I'm the only one I know of with a copy of Mass Effect 2.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 12, 2010, 01:41:09 PM
Bayonetta 360 beat NSMB DS at least.  that's something...right?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 12, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
Bayonetta 360 beat NSMB DS at least.  that's something...right?

Bayonetta is in a mario sandwich. 

edit: damn, 5 mario games in this npd.  ha ha
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 12, 2010, 01:50:59 PM

edit: damn, 5 mario games in this npd.  ha ha

Now that's innovation!
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 12, 2010, 01:51:48 PM
Bayonetta 360 beat NSMB DS at least.  that's something...right?

Bayonetta is in a mario sandwich. 

edit: damn, 5 mario games in this npd.  ha ha

Bayonetta getting DP'd by mario and luigi. (and maybe some yoshi up front) Rule 34 that shit
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: duckman2000 on February 12, 2010, 01:53:14 PM
I cannot believe that MAG charted so high. I like the game and all, but I never expected it to be in the top 20.

It's done much better than that in Europe. Sort of surprising, but I guess it's a shooter by Zipper, so there's probably a default audience there.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 12, 2010, 01:59:32 PM
PSP 100.1K

I wonder how well the Go did. :lol

You probably just have to move the decimal one place to the left. :teehee
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: GoofyGoober on February 12, 2010, 02:01:30 PM
PSP 100.1K

I wonder how well the Go did. :lol

You probably just have to move the decimal one two places to the left. :teehee

Fixed.

Mojo - Last I heard/read was Sony was at 33 million and MS was at around 39 million WW shipped/sold.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 12, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
I cannot believe that MAG charted so high. I like the game and all, but I never expected it to be in the top 20.

That's right around where I would have pegged it sales wise which isn't so great for a first party game.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2010, 02:07:42 PM
I cannot believe that MAG charted so high. I like the game and all, but I never expected it to be in the top 20.

It's done much better than that in Europe. Sort of surprising, but I guess it's a shooter by Zipper, so there's probably a default audience there.
I dont think so,unless you mean by chart position in UK,but be warned,last week UK MAG sales where less than 23k,first week was less than 43k...we know this because MW2 sales are known,via percentage drop
In the rest of Europe it barely charted...
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: duckman2000 on February 12, 2010, 02:11:04 PM
I only saw one week of sales, so you're probably right. Still, I didn't expect it to chart anywhere. A slow, steady seller perhaps, but it's probably the least accessible mainstream-type game I've played this century.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2010, 02:24:32 PM
I wonder why Sony didn't put some subscription model in MAG...game=30 or 40$,comes with one month free play,if you want to play more buy subscription.
256 players could be easily used as excuse...
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 12, 2010, 02:26:31 PM
You're right, that isn't great for a fist party game. Maybe it would have done better in the summer when the Modern Warfare bug had died down and Bad Company 2 had a chance to release.

For a shooter, it's not very welcoming to players that want a quick bullet-fest. It's a game that takes time to really grasp and even then, you probably wont be pulling down kill after kill.

Stepping aside from the quality of the game which is a separate subjective debate, it's a multiplayer only title, it's a new IP, its got competition from more well known franchises, and the singular hook of it being 256 players online isn't the massive draw for mainstream consumers that I think they think it is.

Considering all that it had going against it I would say those relative sales are decent but they certainly aren't anything overly impressive from a first party standpoint.

As usual the caveat is that analysis is not about the quality of said game which I haven't played so I can't really comment on.

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 12, 2010, 03:05:24 PM
PSP 100.1K

I wonder how well the Go did. :lol

You probably just have to move the decimal one two places to the left. :teehee

Fixed.

Mojo - Last I heard/read was Sony was at 33 million and MS was at around 39 million WW shipped/sold.

wow, impressive stuff for Sony.  Their brand equity saved their asses this gen, as hard as they tried to squander it. 

Anyone know off hand how many 360s were sold in the first year?  I would guess about 7-10 million, but I know there were supply problems for some months, along with there not being a ton of system sellers.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2010, 03:25:17 PM
The Xbox 360 is almost five years old at this point, that's irrelevant :lol
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 12, 2010, 03:37:28 PM
Its got at least 2 years left in it. Both of them do. The Ps3 could catch up in 2 years. It likely won't, but you never know.

Anyways, sales figures are distinguished mentally-challenged, because MS will make tons more money from this generation than Sony.

They will almost certainly continue to gain on them on a world wide basis. It's less likely they will gain significantly on them in the US. Of course Sony went from a PS 2 level of success to where they are now so any "victory" over Microsoft on the numbers basis is a pyrrhic one at best.

Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Brehvolution on February 12, 2010, 03:39:18 PM
MAG sold more than Bayo360!?  :lol :'( :lol :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 12, 2010, 03:41:28 PM
PSP 100.1K

I wonder how well the Go did. :lol

You probably just have to move the decimal one two places to the left. :teehee

Fixed.



Mojo - Last I heard/read was Sony was at 33 million and MS was at around 39 million WW shipped/sold.

wow, impressive stuff for Sony.  Their brand equity saved their asses this gen, as hard as they tried to squander it. 

Anyone know off hand how many 360s were sold in the first year?  I would guess about 7-10 million, but I know there were supply problems for some months, along with there not being a ton of system sellers.

It was like 6 million. Sony hasn't closed the gap at all.

And that's with a few million advantage in Japan. So it's lost ground in the territories where people actually buy HD games.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2010, 03:44:46 PM
Yeah, Sony isn't nearly as far behind as people believe.
360 still leads about 1.5 million  in Europe...in 2010...real data not shipped :lol
Saying that in 2005 would be...blasphemy
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2010, 04:11:34 PM
Activision recently released US+EU figures,in their financial report

(http://i49.tinypic.com/15rl100.jpg)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 12, 2010, 04:16:17 PM

Capcom has sold 1.1M copies of the game. Retailers resold 550k in two territories in the launch month. Call that 800k globally? If retailers are not happy selling 800k copies in the first month, perhaps they will only order .8M copies of Capcom's next theoretical new IP action game. Who gives a shit?

*Sigh* so the numbers are not shipped, the numbers are sold?

Thanks for the answer, it only took you like 10 posts.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 12, 2010, 05:47:33 PM

edit: damn, 5 mario games in this npd.  ha ha

Now that's innovation!

Wii Music was too  much cerebral effort for the casual consumer to stay an evergreen title  :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2010, 05:59:54 PM

Capcom has sold 1.1M copies of the game. Retailers resold 550k in two territories in the launch month. Call that 800k globally? If retailers are not happy selling 800k copies in the first month, perhaps they will only order .8M copies of Capcom's next theoretical new IP action game. Who gives a shit?

*Sigh* so the numbers are not shipped, the numbers are sold?

Thanks for the answer, it only took you like 10 posts.
Some retailers are able to send them back to the publisher if they are unsold though.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: archie4208 on February 12, 2010, 06:15:35 PM

edit: damn, 5 mario games in this npd.  ha ha

Now that's innovation!

Wii Music was too  much cerebral effort for the casual consumer to stay an evergreen title  :'(

Waggling your imaginary drums is to difficult for babby. :'(
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 12, 2010, 06:20:06 PM

Capcom has sold 1.1M copies of the game. Retailers resold 550k in two territories in the launch month. Call that 800k globally? If retailers are not happy selling 800k copies in the first month, perhaps they will only order .8M copies of Capcom's next theoretical new IP action game. Who gives a shit?

*Sigh* so the numbers are not shipped, the numbers are sold?

Thanks for the answer, it only took you like 10 posts.
Some retailers are able to send them back to the publisher if they are unsold though.


bayonetta is sure to become a cheap front-lane budget title, like all of Sega's games.  Seems like every Sega game gets a nice long run on the frontlanes at Bestbuy.    which is why I'm trading in my copy tonight!  (after putting in 40 hours.)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: GoofyGoober on February 12, 2010, 06:47:42 PM

Capcom has sold 1.1M copies of the game. Retailers resold 550k in two territories in the launch month. Call that 800k globally? If retailers are not happy selling 800k copies in the first month, perhaps they will only order .8M copies of Capcom's next theoretical new IP action game. Who gives a shit?

*Sigh* so the numbers are not shipped, the numbers are sold?

Thanks for the answer, it only took you like 10 posts.
Some retailers are able to send them back to the publisher if they are unsold though.

Some distributors will take back product for a slight fee. But those that are sold back are usually dumped on a clearout retailer like BigLots or New egg, etc.

dcharlie - Where does all of Asia fit in? Wouldn't Hong Kong, etc fit into Asia region numbers?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 12, 2010, 06:48:03 PM
If I'm not mistaken sony sells ps3s in china I think.  I remember people were talking about Afrika having a chinese version? 
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: GoofyGoober on February 12, 2010, 07:00:51 PM
Quote
dcharlie - Where does all of Asia fit in? Wouldn't Hong Kong, etc fit into Asia region numbers?

to the tune of 6m? those look a bit high for korea, hk, china etc.



I agree. But Maybe Middle East, HK, SE, NE, Russia , Africa is in included in "other".
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: maxy on February 12, 2010, 07:14:42 PM
wait, according to that chart Sony are are 23m in US and Europe. Where the fuck do they get the extra 10m for their world wide total?! lol.

there's 4m or so in japan, the other 6m ? Australia? ;)

Easy

Shipped numbers
Fuzzy math...1+1=3... 
Mexico

 :D
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: GoofyGoober on February 12, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
Sony's senior director of corporate communications Patrick Seybold said "Yes. The strong demand carrying through the holidays was evident and early in the month we [knew] there was going to be limited supply of the PS3 at retail in January. We're working closely with the retail channel to meet this demand, but expect tight supply for the coming months."

Supply Constraints.

Linkz

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/12/sony-ps3-supply-to-be-tight-over-coming-months/
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 12, 2010, 07:22:37 PM
Supply constraints sure.

Let me tell you something, there will never be a lack of PS3s this generation. "For the upcoming months", Sony bringing some of dat PR innovation again.

Now they do pre emptive damage control.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 12, 2010, 07:32:16 PM
I think the shortage is real. Only saw about 6 Ps3s across 3 different retailers when I went shopping for a PSU last weekend.

The question is are they deliberately under-shipping?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 12, 2010, 07:56:56 PM
I think the shortage is real. Only saw about 6 Ps3s across 3 different retailers when I went shopping for a PSU last weekend.

The question is are they deliberately under-shipping?

More sales conspiracy bullshit
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: GoofyGoober on February 12, 2010, 09:08:32 PM
Other then a 45NM Rsx what would they have up their sleeves to save money on?


I know the "shortage" is real, I couldn't see on for weeks around town. Now I only see the 250GB which to me seems like they over produced those and need to get rid of them. So they ship short the 120GB to make people buy those /tin foil hat
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Trent Dole on February 12, 2010, 09:19:33 PM
Both PS3 and Wii have been hard to find since the new year started. Hopefully the 3s will be around again by the time tax refund season is upon us. I want a blu-ray player and having Noby Noby Boy would be a nice bonus.  8)
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: TripleA on February 12, 2010, 10:20:24 PM
I think the shortage is real. Only saw about 6 Ps3s across 3 different retailers when I went shopping for a PSU last weekend.

The question is are they deliberately under-shipping?

More sales conspiracy bullshit

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158275 (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158275)

What you call bullshit is actually a strategy, but keep your asshole open I want to hear what else you have to say.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 12, 2010, 10:27:05 PM
Why the fuck are Wii Fit and Wii Play in the same category as these other titles? SMH.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Damian79 on February 12, 2010, 10:27:25 PM
Thats bs.  It is not a marketing strat.  What suppliers try to do is guess how much they will sell each month and supply a little bit more than that.  Sometimes they miss the mark and they have a shortage but it doesnt happen most of the time.  Shortages are never planned.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 12, 2010, 10:29:30 PM
Why the fuck are Wii Fit and Wii Play in the same category as these other titles? SMH.

Wii play is a game.  Not something I'm interested in , but there are games in there.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Damian79 on February 12, 2010, 10:29:59 PM
Why the fuck are Wii Fit and Wii Play in the same category as these other titles? SMH.

Wii play has not charted, why isnt wii fit not supposed to be on there?
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 12, 2010, 10:47:21 PM
well, best buy and fry's had like a zillion unsold ps3 slims
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2010, 11:07:09 PM
I don't think I've ever seen anyone turned down if they inquired about purchasing a PS3 from a reputable retailer. I saw so many at Best Buy during Modern Warfare 2 that one of the employees made a throne out of them.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on February 12, 2010, 11:22:02 PM
I see all three systems in plentiful supply in my neck of the woods.  Seeing a bunch of Wiis on the shelf is still pretty jarring, considering two years ago, you had to stand in line to get one - otherwise you'd never see them.
Title: Re: January NPD (or Guest Lurker Day)
Post by: Raban on February 13, 2010, 12:42:05 AM
I see all three systems in plentiful supply in my neck of the woods.  Seeing a bunch of Wiis on the shelf is still pretty jarring, considering two years ago, you had to stand in line to get one - otherwise you'd never see them.

I agree. My Best Buy has a pyramid of Wiis and it's always weird to see.