Multiple versions of the NGP will launch from late 2011, each with Wi-Fi capability. Only one, however, will also feature 3G.
"The first thing to clarify, which I'm not sure the presentation did a perfect job of doing today, is that all of the devices will have Wi-Fi capability; a separate SKU will have 3G," House said.
"So the user gets a choice. Wi-Fi is available wherever, which clearly is the most important aspect of connectivity and that connected experience; 3G will be a subset of that."
Sony is currently "working hard" on 3G partnerships. House confirmed there will be some cost to the user for 3G services.
western support at E3
proprietary flash memory card for games and expanding storage
small games exclusively on PSN
other games...same will have both retail,PSN release and some won't,larger games will have both
PSN id movable to NGP
BC compatible with PSP PSN games,improved graphics(a little)
Currently, the PSP2's hardware is not finalized, and Sony is having problems balancing battery, power and heat. There are apparently overheating issues,
overheating and battery problems :hyper
I was worried that Sony would wuss out and make the thing practical instead of shoving as much power into a small package. I bet the price will be high too! Sony :bow2
2006-Himuro: Wii is dead. does anyone care when you've got 360? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.
psp2 is dead. does anyone care when you've got 3ds? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.
i stand by my opinion that a rear touch pad is a stupid idea (which will be dropped shortly after launch)
But you will be able to rub some loli animu character's butt!!!!!!!
But the psp has better games than the ds...
psp2 is dead. does anyone care when you've got 3ds? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.
2006-Himuro: Wii is dead. does anyone care when you've got 360? it's not like psp and ds where they were released just a few months apart.
you can launch later and still do well :P
as long as the same guy who did the security for the PSP1 is on board, this is a winner.
as long as the same guy who did the security for the PSP1 is on board, this is a winner.
More like death of real handheld gaming.
:bow iPhone gaming :bow2
I'm sorry you don't want to accept the true face of portable gaming
Wii is popular, too! What a statement for next-gen gaming. 'nuff said.
Your argument is idiotic.
except that the Wii is still a gaming console and not a phone.
Who is idiotic now?
except that the Wii is still a gaming console and not a phone.
:lolWho is idiotic now?
You :teehee
PSP2 to be as powerful as Xbox 360:
http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360 (http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360)
Sub-hd gaming confirmed.
Multiple sources have confirmed to VG247 that PSP2 is currently codenamed “Veta”.
Apparently the name has been picked to disguise the fact that every man and his dog is currently putting together software for the machine. It doesn’t appear to be working.
We’ve also been told the Sony is deliberately spreading misinformation about PSP2 in order to identify where leaks are emerging. Considering your mother probably knows someone who’s seen a kit first-hand, we’re going to wish the Sony bods luck with that.
I really hope psp2 uses android instead of xmb
PSP2 to be as powerful as Xbox 360:
http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360 (http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360)
Sub-hd gaming confirmed.
well, at least they're trying to match the specs of the more powerful console
PSP2 to be as powerful as Xbox 360:
http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360 (http://kotaku.com/5675525/psp2-will-ditch-the-umd-and-be-as-powerful-as-the-xbox-360)
Sub-hd gaming confirmed.
well, at least they're trying to match the specs of the more powerful console
1GB of ram and an 3.2GHz processor in a handheld? Xbox 360-level graphics?
So the thing is going to be like $700 then and have a battery that lasts about 5 minutes, right? Great.
You can pre-order the 3DS now, yeah?
1GB of ram and an 3.2GHz processor in a handheld? Xbox 360-level graphics?
So the thing is going to be like $700 then and have a battery that lasts about 5 minutes, right? Great.
You can pre-order the 3DS now, yeah?
I really hope psp2 uses android instead of xmb
Because android = android apps which will fall in line with their ideology for psp. Plus, android is an already established os. xmb and umd didn't do much to make psp1 the best portable media player. Sure, it was ahead of its time in a lot of ways, but xmb with touch screen is pointless. Android, already has all they need. If people can make games for the android, and those games are playable on the psp, this will increase psp profits while at the same time building up the android AND the psp brand to combat the iEpidemic because not only is Apple Nintendo's main rival but so to are they to Sony. Sony is fighting now both Apple and Nintendo for marketshare and losing. Getting on android would be amazing because psp2 would have an unlimited amount of support right out the fucking gate. XMB has no such support, at least not on the psp right now. They'd be starting from stage one.
It pains me to say this but who the fuck is going to buy psp2 as a gaming device? psp needs to be more than just a gaming device: an all in one machine that lets you facebook, tweet, game with amazing portable graphics, listen to music, browse the internet, download bite size games on the go for casuals, touch screen, multi-touch. It needs to hit every single market "trend" of today and tomorrow if they want to stay in this battle and take back some of their marketshare.
Power shouldn't be their concern. If power is their concern Sony has already lost. 3ds already has the developers, support, and all that. iOS has the user community and support and tons of apps. Sony needs both.
With the 3DS and the rise of phone gaming, the PSP2 will be utterly irrelevant, having to find a much smaller niche than what the PSP1 carved out. The PlayStation name doesn't have the cachet it used to have back in 2004-2005 and if it tanks, then the brand will sink even lower in time for the PS4 to come out.
The back touch screen sounds dumb but to cut costs, it will probably be one of the first features to go before it is released. It sounds like an ambitious handheld but I suspect a lot of the huge amounts of power will need to be whittled down for price and battery life lest it be another Nomad like device.
It will be interesting to see what it will turn out to be and what games come out for it.
They won't. It's Sony.
Sony doesn't know shit also :lol
3DS has hit them hard,now they are running in circles.But all these leaks mean that something will be announced shorty(few months tops).
If they give one year headstart to 3DS in Japan...the end
Capcom has invested a lot into 3DS tech and you can bet that they are not doing that out of love.
Isn't Sony still losing money on each PS3 sold? This seems like sound business decisions.
Still, I'll give Sony massive props. After the success of low tech hardware with the DS/Wii, I really thought Sony was gonna go the turbo route with their new machines. I must say I'm pleasantly surprised (and concerned, somewhat).
:bow Sorny :bow2
$599
My god, its such an ugly design.
Update: We’ve been told by a source that these images are from the last kit. There’s a newer one, which is a single, non-sliding block. Remember those last Kotaku rumours of the unit over heating? Sony switched back to the current PSP form in order to cool it down.
current one has different stick layout and doesn't slide out
how the fuck do you put right analog stick on the right of the face buttons?
I think I'm the only person in the world who see's potential in the rear trackpad :'(
Does it matter where the stick is relative to the face buttons? Are there any games that require you to manipulate the right stick without taking your thumb off the face buttons on any system?
The main purpose of that second stick is adjusting the camera, and it can do that wherever it's located relative to the face buttons. The second purpose is for twin stick shooting, which usually require you to take your thumb off the right stick if you want to use the face buttons anyway.
I'm just weird.
I think I'm the only person in the world who see's potential in the rear trackpad :'(
But you will be able to rub some loli animu character's butt!!!!!!!
i still think they really need to push the handheld/tv connection, it's the one thing no one else is really doing (although apple is just starting to with airplay, and a couple of games have the ability to be played on tv via ipad/phone/touch)
i still think they really need to push the handheld/tv connection, it's the one thing no one else is really doing (although apple is just starting to with airplay, and a couple of games have the ability to be played on tv via ipad/phone/touch)
Three things are most important to me when buying a handheld at launch: Price, design, and launch/window titles.
If Sony can deliver on those three things, I'm there.
if that price is true (doubtful), i know i'm not paying 3 hunnert bones for what is essentially a psp+
by the time this comes out the wii might have dropped to $150
hey everybody, how'd you like to pay twice the price of our home system which comes with two games, i know lol right but seriously check this 3D comin at ya
RUMOUR WATCH: Handheld adventure for Nathan Drake is in the works for “very powerful machine”
Reports suggest that a new Uncharted game is in development for the PSP2.
US games publication Game Informer claims it has been told that a spin-off of the popular PS3 adventure series is due for release on Sony’s next handheld by Christmas 2011, according to CVG.
“The developers we talked to described the PSP2 as a very powerful machine,” the magazine wrote. “We’ve even heard that a new Uncharted spin-off – which could even stand in for a full-on Uncharted 3 – is in the works.”
The publication goes on to suggest that the appearance of Uncharted on PSP2 is a good indication of “how powerful the graphics capabilities are for the handheld”.
Company uses their game IPs on game console, more at 11.
QuotePlus PSP2 will probably have XBL kind of real online integration.
Yup - Sony will NAIL this one! ;)
I hope they do - it just looks like one of those things they'll inevitably f*ck up somehow.
Sony is on the verge of finally announcing new handheld, MCV sources have confirmed
The industry will finally find out what form the PSP2 will take at a press event in Tokyo on January 27th, trade sources have confirmed to MCV.
Claims emerging this morning about an impending reveal for the long-rumoured PSP2 are true.
Publishers were informed late last year of the plans, with some of Sony's biggest parties already at work on titles for the high-specced device.
The date of the reveal itself is just the beginning, however.
This Friday's copy of MCV magazine has some exclusive industry insight - some of which will come as a huge surprise. Check back for the full story on MCVuk.com.
Famitsu hardware sales from 12/27 - 1/2:
DSi: 111,635
Wii: 97,117
PS3: 69,606
PSP: 69,068
PSP Go: 6,914
360: 5,151
DSL: 3,158
PS2: 2,532
[UPDATE] Sony has not commented directly on the rumors, but Game Informer was just invited to a Sony event on January 27th in Tokyo. Interesting...
In other news PSPGo has resurfaced,piracy effect?
or shortage,or holiday effect
it is probably going to be just like PSP1. Slick hardware, but with no games.
HD device on shelves by Xmas; Media storage solution keeps retail in the mix; Third parties to help drive launch buzz
Sony isn't going to take Nintendo's 3DS challenge lying down.
The format-holder is preparing a swift reveal for the true PlayStation Portable successor, due at Christmas. As was reported yesterday, the first announcement is pencilled in for January 27th.
Most importantly: the format-holder is pitching the device as a high-end portable equivalent of its next-gen home console, with rich games content to match.
Sony has told licensees the device ‘is as powerful as the PlayStation 3’.
High-level sources told us they expect Sony to start outlining its 2011 handheld strategy within days of Nintendo events in Amsterdam and New York detailing the 3DS Easter rollout plans.The new PSP is expected to arrive within the Q4 period, perhaps as early as October, and includes a HD screen with twin-stick controls in the familiar ‘brick’ form factor.
Sony has already consulted publishers about launch timings and the first wave of games.
It is specifically requesting richer, more in-depth content to differentiate its device from app-centric Apple and Android devices.Plus, securing HD handheld games will help build launch excitement amongst publishers, developers and consumers over the next nine months.
Sony is already plotting to reveal more at GDC and E3 after this month’s first tease.
‘PSP2’ will even use a media format to make sure retail has a part to play in the console’s lifecycle by selling physical software.
But the device will also provide access to plenty of downloadable content, smaller games and apps via PSN – and maybe even incorporate a phone, but not as a primary function.
This next-gen PSP is separate from the games-oriented phone sister division Sony Ericsson is working on, which is due for its formal unveiling at Barcelona’s Mobile World Congress in February. That device runs Android and downloaded apps and smaller games, plus potentially older PSone titles.
PSP had games. Tons of them that when played made folks go "Man, this would be a whole lot more enjoyable on a console".
According to a source with experience of working on the device, the reports are “a perfectly reasonable description of the hardware’s capabilities.” Our source also notes that in comparison to 3DS, PSP2’s processing power is “comparable to the difference which exists between PSP and DS.”
Originally Posted by DJmizuhara:
From my source the power of the PSP2 is just under the power of the PS3 but it's only rendering 900x550 so you won't see the different. Oh, it's also got more memory than the PS3. ;)
Full brightness, maximum sound volume, WiFi and Bluetooth on, updating 7 mail accounts and location services every 15 minutes. How long did it last? 4 hours 56 minutes
Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is probably the most rumored phone ever. It’s not released, it’s not even announced, but we have got specifications, hundreds of photos and finally Taiwanese website ePrice made Xperia Play review.http://mobilenews.blog.com/?p=434 (http://mobilenews.blog.com/?p=434)
The reviewed model having model number R800i and it’s running Android 2.3 Gingerbread. Under the hood there’s 1GHz processor along with Adreno 205 GPU. Display is 4” FWVGA 480×854 with BRAVIA Mobile technology. Also Xperia Play has dual microphone and two speakers for stereo sound.
For headphones there’s is 3.5 mm jack and microSD slot for memory expansion. 5MP camera with LED flash can record videos at 720p HD quality. And to keep this gadget “alive” battery with 1500 mAh comes to help.
With Gingerbread installed, additionally you will find Playstation Pocket application, which launches Playstation branded games. So here are the videos bellow of Xperia Play preview. Happy you if you know Chinese language.
PSP2 $249.99!
PSP2 $249.99!
I'm expecting this, tbh.
Remember when everyone thought the 360's launch price was crazy and Sony was going to kill them by undercutting them with the price on the PS3 and it turned out to be $599?
That was awesome.
Now I'm scared we're going to get a $299 portable console
Ironically, $599 was a pretty good deal at the time. Drinky and I bought a 8800 GTX around the same time, which was $650.
I suppose only time will tell if the market is willing to accept a $599 console even if it's a great deal.
Now I'm scared we're going to get a $299 portable console
Now I'm scared we're going to get a $299 portable console
Isn't that the 3DS in most regions?
ports of Sony games,what elseHeavy Rain with added front camera controls
:drake
Stuff in US is dirt cheap
I only harp on it because it affects the rest of the world,specifically EU
The lower the price in US,the lower the price in EU
So when i see $300 in US...we are doomed :yuck :yuck :yuck
you know the real question would be....
now that all the ports are going on the 3DS what will be the launch lineup of the PSP2? :omg
I recently talked with John Koller, director of hardware marking for Sony Computer Entertainment America, and asked him about the rumored PSP phone and PSP 2. His response: "I can't talk about anything in the future. But I can tell you the PSP will be part of our line-up for the forseeable future."
He pointed out that Sony made its mark in handheld gaming by creating the PSP to be a compact-yet-powerful machine for playing bigger console-like games (titles like last year's epic "God of War: Ghost of Sparta" and "Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker"). And while the iPhone may be making its mark with smaller games and Nintendo is making its mark with 3-D games, he said Sony would continue to make its mark by focusing on bigger games.
"We think Nintendo placed a bet (with 3-D) to left turn away from where maybe the iPhone is to differntiate themselves," he said. "That was their choice. We think there's a better oppoturnity for us with these larger games."
It's well known now that Sony will be having a big Tokyo press event on the 27th where it will unveil the PlayStation Portable 2. An analyst has clued us in to the event's name: "PlayStation Meeting."
Sony used to have PlayStation Meeting events periodically, but Thursday's installment will be the first event with the name in six years.
The last time Sony had a PlayStation Meeting was July 25, 2005. Then CEO Ken Kutaragi outlined Sony's PlayStation 3 plans through slides (see this story at IGN for a recap), Namco Bandai showed a live demonstration of what would become its terrible PS3 Gundam launch game, and we first heard the title "Lair" for Factor 5's new PS3 game. (There's a full index of happenings at IGN).
Analyst Yasuaki Fujima mentioned the PlayStation Meeting name in a Tweet earlier this week. He said that we can probably expect unexpected major announcements simply because the timing of the event comes ahead of Sony's third quarter earnings announcement, which is scheduled for February 3. He also added that it's possible to view the event as Sony's means of dealing with the 3DS by turning the attention onto itself.
The revival of the PlayStation Meeting name sounds like a perfect occasion to take the lid of PlayStation Portable's successor.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4[/youtube]
oh the memories,the memories
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2w2l1JTs4[/youtube]
oh the memories,the memories
The analog sticks look like the same garbage PSP one. :yuck
Hopefully, the final version will have analog sticks like the one on the 3DS.
It still boggles my mind that Sony thought they could sell the PS3 for $500 and $600.
:wtf
Pretend you're playing a twin stick shooter, or moving the camera at the same time as you press one of the face buttons.
Seriously, Raban, what the fuck kind of games do you play where such a controller layout would be comfortable or "fine"? Are you batshit insane?
Personally, I play a lot of games with the thick part of my thumb on the right stick as I control the camera, and use the tip of my thumb on the buttons.
It's a rare thing. I mostly use my finger tip. But in an action packed game where you have to move the camera and fight at the same time, it's a useful trick.
Either way, Raban is batshit insane and probably has girl hands.
yes but not before the thing is half the price,has a nice stable of JRPG and a nice custom firmware :pirate
Pretty much the only company that has put the d-pad above the analog stick in the last ten years is Sony.
Regarding the system's internals, the paper reports that Sony has developed a new processor for handling high resolution visuals.
OLED touchscreen + 3G
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/24/psp2_details/
God I love sony. They don't give a fuck! Bam, $500 handheld, get a second or third job motherfucker!
PRICE MATCH THE 3DS SONY
DO IT
DO IT
People were saying the same thing about PS3
Things change,never say never
Of course,who would believe Sony hype? ;)People were saying the same thing about PS3
Things change,never say never
The difference is that the PS3 wasn't limited by a puny battery. I still think that the power gap and thus price difference will be much smaller between the PSP2 and 3DS than what you guys expect.
Is there really a point?
Even if PSP2 is 10x better hardware at the same price as 3DS. Even if they had it launch on the same day as 3DS.
...3DS would outsell it by a wide margin and Sony would just take a huge loss.
does it have a second analog? I haven't kept up with the leaks.
Monster Hunter + 3G = marriage from heavenspoiler (click to show/hide)Yes I know Japanese get together to play handheld games irl[close]
Nintendo can be beaten if Sony reveal with Monster Hunter exclusivity. Though the N would STILL win as they have a captive audience - but Sony could really do some damage with Monster Hunter.
If they have PS2 B/C in there they might even do some damage to the 3D enabled PS2 ports on 3DS
what about Square Enix?
they could have tons of stuff for PSP2 launch
Where would you put the dvd?
OLED is organic ledsSUPER AMOLED is better anyway.
They are cut from fetus stem cells to create the most beautiful vibrant pixels ever
:bow OLED :bow2
:piss Shitty 800x240 WQVGA displays stuck in 1999 Japanese cell phones :piss2
OLED is organic leds
They are cut from fetus stem cells to create the most beautiful vibrant pixels ever
:bow OLED :bow2
:piss Shitty 800x240 WQVGA displays stuck in 1999 Japanese cell phones :piss2
OLED is organic leds
They are cut from fetus stem cells to create the most beautiful vibrant pixels ever
:bow OLED :bow2
:piss Shitty 800x240 WQVGA displays stuck in 1999 Japanese cell phones :piss2
According to fishie from opa age that isnt true. Wonder who is right nikkei or fishie.
They'd probably go for $15, like Xbox Originals. Except for Square, who would charge $25 or something.
Yeah, I think 1200 yen is likely in Japan.
Can't see them going much higher than that, with PS1 games at 600 yen.
I'm actually pretty excited about the concept of being able to get some PS2 games on a handheld. The PS2's library is phenomenally rich in content.
Sony intends to spill its handheld beans at 6:00am UK time on Thursdayhttp://www.mcvuk.com/news/42682/Time-set-for-PSP2-meeting (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/42682/Time-set-for-PSP2-meeting)
The long-awaited announcement of the PSP2 will take place in Tokyo at 6:00am UK time on Thursday January 27th.
The specific time of the press briefing was revealed by Nikkei, as translated by Andriasang.
The meeting itself is being referred to as 'PlayStation Meeting 2011', meaning there may even be news regarding the PS3 on the agenda as well.
However, it's not yet clear whether Sony's detailing will come with an embargo, and the possibility remains that the platform holder may attempt to shush attendees for an unspecified period after the gathering.
Nikkei has expressed its intention to live blog the event, though, suggesting that all information will quickly be made publicly available.
Am i the only person that thinks $250 is wishful thinking? No wany would sony sell at that price. Remember their best selling consoles(ps1 ps2) were priced higher than their competitors.
Yeah but they've never had a competitor as overpriced as the 3DS. $250 is realistic. $200 is wishful thinking.
That picture seems really, really suspect. Why would Sony put an SD card in there?
Kotaku sourcless image that claims to be from Sony. Apparently a photoshop
(http://i.imgur.com/By2Jr.jpg)
Not bad, not sure what the fascination is with sliding but ok
In all likelihood, Sony will announce details of its forthcoming handheld, the PSP 2, at the press conference scheduled for January 27, as we tell you there's a dozen days. In February 2010, we were among the top news sites in the world to discuss the possibility of a touch-back for the PSP 2, Sony.
Based on the statements of knowledgeable sources, we will deliver today a small preview of what time the next Sony's portable will be in the belly. It is likely that this information will be updated and supplemented by the announcement from Sony. Of course, we will keep you informed.
Information taken with caution
Information obtained by 01net. based on a development kit for the PSP 2 (formerly code-named: VETA), also called a PSP2 Debug. This material is given by Sony for certain game development studio called to work on titles for this new platform. Therefore, some elements may change slightly when released on the final business model. This should be the case for example of the appearance, or, to a lesser extent, certain technical characteristics.
But while some details will change, these first reports give a clear idea of what should look like the PSP 2 in store. A commercial version to be released at the end of the year, quite likely in November from the information provided by Sony and deadlines set for developers to complete their games.
Exterior Features
Size: PSP 2 should be less broad but more "high" that the PSP's first name. For the record, the latter showed the dimensions of 17 cm wide by 7.4 cm in height and 2.3 cm thick approximately.
The craft will be imposing, and, according to our sources, he "does not fit into a pocket." Of course, on the back side of the PSP2, we found the touchpad which we told you about last February. No accuracy we have not yet been made about his weight.
Ergonomics: the PSP 2 will have the usual four buttons, two triggers (L and R), a directional pad and above - finally! - Two analog sticks. The presence of a single analog stick was a recurring criticism addressed to the first PSP.
Besides the buttons, the PSP 2 will also offer touch capabilities, both on screen and on the back (trackpad). These surfaces, multipoint tolerate up to six simultaneous pressure points!
Screen: The PSP 2 will incorporate a screen of 5 inches (12.7 cm) Type OLED, probably Sony, but not sure yet. A comfortable size which seems confirmed by our sources, more so than the 4.3 inches (slightly less than 11 cm) of the original screen.
Display resolution: it should be four times that of the PSP, or 960 x 544 pixels. The proportions of the first PSP (which showed 480 x 272 pixels) were retained, suggesting that the console could integrate an emulator for older games.
The inside of the beast
Processor (CPU): it is based on an ARM Cortex A-9 customized by Sony. This quad-core processor may contain a Neon Media Processing Engine (MPE) to accelerate audio and video decompression, but also to improve the performance of floating-point (floating point unit, or FPU). In short, a solution "high performance" and cost in terms of energy consumption, a figure central to a portable console.
Graphics processor (GPU): a PowerVR SGX 543 MP4 +. A quad-core GPU with 128 MB of VRAM (video memory, to be confirmed). This is the first time we see a powerful GPU on a portable machine. We do not yet know the meaning of "+" reference, but we assume it means a specific customized to Sony.
This processor includes pipelines for unified shaders (pixel and vertex, 3D display modes), which should provide greater flexibility and GPU programming. The PowerVR architecture is very different from that adopted by Nvidia and ATI, the two major manufacturers of graphics chips today. It is designed to work in parallel by dividing the areas of the screen. It also includes material management of texture compression and hardware specialist performing the work of a Zbuffer (algorithm eliminating non-visible parts to ease calculation).
For the record, Apple seems to predict, according to the latest rumors, to equip the same type of chip 5 and the iPhone the next generation of iPad. The only difference is that the Cupertino company has opted for a version MP2, so with two hearts only.
RAM: development kits contain 1 GB of RAM. Nevertheless, and in order to run a code not yet optimized, these kits usually include twice more RAM than the retail version. So one might think that the PSP 2 will comprise the final 512 MB of RAM, type LPDDR2 (low consumption), cons for the first 32 MB and 64 MB for PSP PSP GB
Memory storage: the PSP 2 would retain it seems the storage capacity of the PSP Go, namely 16 GB of flash memory. Of course, it will propose an SD card reader and SDHC.
To fight against piracy, we can imagine that Sony will force users to enable online games. In the case of a 3G connection, the Japanese company will then enter into an agreement with the telephone operators. To be confirmed.
Connectivity: The PSP 2 will focus clearly on the wireless. It will offer a module for Wi-Fi and one for 3G. According to our sources, it is also possible to connect the PSP 2 Internet connection sharing - via Bluetooth in all likelihood - with a PlayStation Phone. Of course, these connections enable you to download games from PlayStation Network.
Sound: no certainty for now, we assume that the management of his is included in the CPU (through the function MSE), connected to a digital-analog converter (DAC).
Hardware integrated GPS, gyroscope (doubt is cast by some of our sources do not support this feature), accelerometer, microphone, front and rear cameras.
My guess, two skus:
$299 16GB Wifi-only version
$399-450 32GB 3G version
I do not believe it will have a touch screen, I think the back touch pad will be it as far as touch control goes
there might also be a variation in the screens used between the two skus
wouldn't 3G enable Monster Hunter 3G ? ... which is a potential game changer in the handheld realm?
iPhone 4 still has a higher resolution screen.
No worries. He also said that the PS3 game that he'd worked on previously was ported to the PSP2 in less than 1 week and it was running at 60FPS.
:lol Okay, this thing's going to cost a billion dollars if all this is true, but I gotta appreciate the brass balls and if it's region-free, they've got my vote.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=25609415Quote from: DJmizuharaNo worries. He also said that the PS3 game that he'd worked on previously was ported to the PSP2 in less than 1 week and it was running at 60FPS.
:omg
*if true*
Thanks for backing me up TTP!
I can't tell you what game was ported but it's disc based game.
Haze :omg
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=25609415Quote from: DJmizuharaNo worries. He also said that the PS3 game that he'd worked on previously was ported to the PSP2 in less than 1 week and it was running at 60FPS.
:omg
*if true*
holy fuck
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=25609415Quote from: DJmizuharaNo worries. He also said that the PS3 game that he'd worked on previously was ported to the PSP2 in less than 1 week and it was running at 60FPS.
:omg
*if true*
holy fuck
Yeah, never thought I'd see a PS3 game at 60fps
Who cares about japanese devs and their shitty outdated games? I wanna shoot some fools on call of duty while waiting for my next class to start :gun
After some talk about a recent soccer match, Nagoshi says that he has a big job to do tomorrow.
Haze :omg:rofl
PSP2 sounds more and more like the modern version of Nomad. Sony really is the new Sega.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=25609415Quote from: DJmizuharaNo worries. He also said that the PS3 game that he'd worked on previously was ported to the PSP2 in less than 1 week and it was running at 60FPS.
:omg
*if true*
holy fuck
Yeah, never thought I'd see a PS3 game at 60fps
:lol ice cold
Some rumor
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/26/nagoshi_work/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/26/nagoshi_work/)QuoteAfter some talk about a recent soccer match, Nagoshi says that he has a big job to do tomorrow.
:hyper
Shane Bettenhausen apparently said on the Weekend Confirmed podcast that a lot of companies are developing the exact same SKU of a game across 360, PS3 and PSP2
It looks like 3DS ports bitching will be nothing,this is really shaping to be a port machine
It looks like 3DS ports bitching will be nothing,this is really shaping to be a port machine
If true: no lessons have been learned. Sony is just being Sony.
I love my PSP, I really do, but I wish ratio of "original content : ports" would shift greatly to the former's scale. I can't think of a single original western third party game on the PSP that turned out good.
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All the stuff about ports is silly. ds has just as many remakes/ports.
It looks like 3DS ports bitching will be nothing,this is really shaping to be a port machine
If true: no lessons have been learned. Sony is just being Sony.
I love my PSP, I really do, but I wish ratio of "original content : ports" would shift greatly to the former's scale. I can't think of a single original western third party game on the PSP that turned out good.
And psp doesn't have original content? I'd say psp has a better balance between old and new than the ds.
PSP2 sounds more and more like the modern version of Nomad. Sony really is the new Sega.
way back when, i bought a nomad on clearance at toys 'r' us for $50
other than the 30 minute battery life it was pretty awesome for the time
years later, sold it on ebay with a couple of games for around $250
:heart nomad
Let's not resort to me posting lists, only for you to dismiss half of what I consider good, and vice versa.
But there's just as much original content on the psp.
It's not hard to believe you'd do the same when faced with a list of PSP's non-port lineup. Both consoles have a pretty robust selection, it's just what you're looking for and what you like.
Top 20 PSP games on gamerankings are all ports or spinoffs. Whatever original content there was on PSP obviously wasn't very good.
Spinoffs are not original enough. Also, gamerankings is always right. :patel
There's no way the PSP can contain PS3/360 power in a tiny chassis. If it could be done, Sony would have released a Wii sized PS3 because in Japan, smaller is always better (That's what he said).
For every Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea 2 port, there's a R-Type Tactics, Holy Invasion of Privacy Badman or Jeanne D'Arc. This is without getting into the psp's vast puzzle library: Practical Quotient 2, Crush, Echochrome, Lumines, Patapon and more. You can complain about lack of original rpgs, but then there's stuff like Gurumin, Cladun, ZHP, and stuff like Parasite Eve 3 and Final Fantasy Type Zero on the way.
Whoever complains about psp lacking original content really hasn't researched their system and sounds like they're bitching just to be bitching. People also forget the two psp GTA's, Loco Roco, Rock Band Unplugged, Downstream Panic, Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep, Half Minute Hero, Pursuit Force.
PSP has a lot of ports and remakes, but it also has a whole slew of original content to the point where it doesn't really matter.
I don't question their existence, just the rate of original releases when directly compared to the DS. It's a no brainer for me, tbh.
For every Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea 2 port, there's a R-Type Tactics, Holy Invasion of Privacy Badman or Jeanne D'Arc. This is without getting into the psp's vast puzzle library: Practical Quotient 2, Crush, Echochrome, Lumines, Patapon and more. You can complain about lack of original rpgs, but then there's stuff like Gurumin, Cladun, ZHP, and stuff like Parasite Eve 3 and Final Fantasy Type Zero on the way.
Whoever complains about psp lacking original content really hasn't researched their system and sounds like they're bitching just to be bitching. People also forget the two psp GTA's, Loco Roco, Rock Band Unplugged, Downstream Panic, Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep, Half Minute Hero, Pursuit Force.
PSP has a lot of ports and remakes, but it also has a whole slew of original content to the point where it doesn't really matter.
For every Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea 2 port, there's a R-Type Tactics, Holy Invasion of Privacy Badman or Jeanne D'Arc. This is without getting into the psp's vast puzzle library: Practical Quotient 2, Crush, Echochrome, Lumines, Patapon and more. You can complain about lack of original rpgs, but then there's stuff like Gurumin, Cladun, ZHP, and stuff like Parasite Eve 3 and Final Fantasy Type Zero on the way.
Whoever complains about psp lacking original content really hasn't researched their system and sounds like they're bitching just to be bitching. People also forget the two psp GTA's, Loco Roco, Rock Band Unplugged, Downstream Panic, Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep, Half Minute Hero, Pursuit Force.
PSP has a lot of ports and remakes, but it also has a whole slew of original content to the point where it doesn't really matter.
Absolute garbage compared to PS3/360. Disgusting Weeaboo.
I really only listed random shit off the top of my head, but anyone who complains about psp ports and remakes is probably just a big bitch anyways.
I reiterate:
who the fuck cares?
Tactics Ogre: LUCT psp is a remake, who cares. It was also released once and only once, in English, in a shitty port to the playstation with a crappy translation, over 10 years ago.
I truly think people who complain about ports/remakes are idiots, because surely they haven't played every game ever, right??!!!
I still love the DS, but comparing the two side-by-side and declaring one or the other the winner is futile. Both are awesome, both have shit-loads of excellent games, and as a gamer you'd probably want both.
psp vs ds is the best system war since snes vs genesis.
it's no wonder why they're the only two systems worth owning this gen*.
* - unless you want to use netflix
psp vs ds is the best system war since snes vs genesis.
it's no wonder why they're the only two systems worth owning this gen*.
* - unless you want to use netflix
psp vs ds is the best system war since snes vs genesis.
it's no wonder why they're the only two systems worth owning this gen*.
* - unless you want to use netflix
See, then you say something like this, and our allegiance has ended. You fool!
For every Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea 2 port, there's a R-Type Tactics, Holy Invasion of Privacy Badman or Jeanne D'Arc. This is without getting into the psp's vast puzzle library: Practical Quotient 2, Crush, Echochrome, Lumines, Patapon and more. You can complain about lack of original rpgs, but then there's stuff like Gurumin, Cladun, ZHP, and stuff like Parasite Eve 3 and Final Fantasy Type Zero on the way.
Whoever complains about psp lacking original content really hasn't researched their system and sounds like they're bitching just to be bitching. People also forget the two psp GTA's, Loco Roco, Rock Band Unplugged, Downstream Panic, Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep, Half Minute Hero, Pursuit Force.
PSP has a lot of ports and remakes, but it also has a whole slew of original content to the point where it doesn't really matter.
Absolute garbage compared to PS3/360. Disgusting Weeaboo.
I can only stomach 2 hours of ps3/360 gaming a week that isn't Super Street Fighter IV.
Also Cladun is better than every ps3/360 game released last year that wasn't Super Street Fighter IV.
shit/bin this thread
also make a stupid list thread to confine himumu and friends drivel
I have had bayonetta for over a month and only 8 hours clocked
shit/bin this thread
also make a stupid list thread to confine himumu and friends drivel
wtf is this shit. bunch of drama queens.
Want a gaymo.
I honestly hope this event is really just to announce all PS3 games will have CD-keys from now on.
Also, I bet Sony canceled ROOM because they're just brining HOME to the PSP2.
I honestly hope this event is really just to announce all PS3 games will have CD-keys from now on.
Seems Kojima is at the event.
should be interesting.
On the screen in a blue ball were the words
NEXT GENERATION PORTABLE
Then it flashed to ACTIVISION
Sony is def. showing a new portable device
No doubt about it
One word on the screen: "Home." Oh no.
Yall ready for this, dun dun dun DUN DUN DUN dundundundun DUN DUN DUN dundundundun
Ken Kutaragi is sitting about 15 feet to my right; picture soon.
Fucking right, Kaz needs to bust out some 2 Unlimited
ANDROID:hyper
06:21AMOli Welsh
The PS experience will be delivered on Android through collaboration with developers and publishers.
06:20AMOli Welsh
It will make PlayStation content available on Android-based smartphones and tablets.
06:20AMOli Welsh
He's announcing PlayStation Suite, which extends the PlayStation experience beyond PSP by providing PlayStation content on mobiles.
EAT THIS APPLE
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...
:poop:
ultimate portable entertainment
$300+
HERES THE MUSIC
Video time. A pale man plays with CG bubbles of information in the street.
He's got one on stage. Very halting applause.
06:32AMOli Welsh
Front and rear touchbads. 3G and Wifi. Sixaxis motion control, threeaxis compass.
Rather than a sliding analogue like PSP (or 3DS), it's a micro analogue stick designed to give you the feel of a Dual Shock.
CUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
is the front panel display touch? I assume not.
Fishie was wrong on the fact that it didnt have a touch screen, but it did have a touch pad at the back or something. Strange.
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looks hot in that angel
He's running around in Uncharted. You can jump with X, or use the front touchscreen to "push" Drake over obstacles. You can tlit the console to swing him on a rope. Shuhei climbs a vine by stroking his fingers on the back touchscreen up and down alternately, as if he's actually climbing.
The additional controls are supposed to give you a connection with the character, and put you inside the game. You can use swipe touch controls to move Drake around when climbing, as well as use the stick. Shuhei dispatches enemies using swipes to pull and push them off cliffs.
Now he's aiming a rifle using the "very sensitive" gyro sensor.
"Super Oval design" :lol
Kaz is recapping first: dual analogues, dual touch screens, dual cameras, motion sensors, location sensors. The touch pads enable "touch, grab, trace, push or pull" sensations.
YES.
NO MORE XMB.
QuoteYou can use swipe touch controls to move Drake around when climbing
Why would anyone want to do this?
YES.
NO MORE XMB.
XMB shits all over this horrible UI
The user interface has all your games, apps and features in circular, 3D lozenge icons.
The "Live Area" is what they're calling the front end for games. It links to the store. Everything is tap and touch controlled. You can switch very quickly between the game and the Live Area.
Replace shitty UI with ugly & shitty UI.
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it's a monstrosity
The application "Near" lets players see what other games players are talking about
06:58AMOli Welsh
Retrace your footsteps in Near you can see what the most popular game is in each area you've walked through.
06:58AMOli Welsh
The Near application - it's an app - tracks where you go during the day. A video shows someone walking around Tokyo and the NGP recording this.
06:57AMOli Welsh
Select "near" and you can find out who's playing what where you are.
06:56AMOli Welsh
Now we're talking about "Location-based entertainment" - basically using the GPS compass in gameplay.
Replace shitty UI with ugly & shitty UI.
WTF is wrong with the XMB ???
XMB is/was great, especially for the original PSP.
XMB is slow and too fucking big. It looked nice but navigation was garbage. One of the main reasons I sold my PSP for an Xbox 360 on October 16th 2007.
yawn,talk about games
More like talk about price.
What's $500 in yen? A billion yen? I bet it's a billion yen.
Quote06:58AMOli Welsh
Retrace your footsteps in Near you can see what the most popular game is in each area you've walked through.
06:58AMOli Welsh
The Near application - it's an app - tracks where you go during the day. A video shows someone walking around Tokyo and the NGP recording this.
06:57AMOli Welsh
Select "near" and you can find out who's playing what where you are.
06:56AMOli Welsh
Now we're talking about "Location-based entertainment" - basically using the GPS compass in gameplay.
this is ridiculous
HEY HERES WHERE EVERYONE IS PLAYING IDOLMASTER
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So what's the point of the PS3 in Japan then?
Can we finally get some HD jrpgs now?
Oli Welsh
Now Kaz is going to talk about PS Suite and its cross-platform abilities. It works on NGP, too. PS Suite Compatible software will work on a wide number of devices then, and Kaz hopes it will entice them to buy PSP2s. Sorry, NGPs.
It has the same gyro sensor and accelerometers and PS Move.
So what's the point of the PS3 in Japan then?
THAT'S THE GENIUS OF IT.
:bow ps4 :bow2
oh shit jun takeuchi :bow
Why is that exciting? Jun Takeuchi sucks and capcom is known to announce PSP games that never happen. I expect this to be the same.
There's going to be a download version of Monster Hunter 3 Portable, apparently.
MH Portable 3 will run on NGP. It's the download version of the PSP game. Jun's playing it on stage. He's quite excited - he claims he hasn't touched one before.
They've implemented a right-stick analaogue camera. "The stick feels... great! You can quote me, that's my first impression. I think it is very suitable for an action game like this."
Here's a video of the opening of Lost Planet 2, rendered real-time on NGP. It looks spectacularly good, to be honest.
QuoteThere's going to be a download version of Monster Hunter 3 Portable, apparently.
MH Portable 3 will run on NGP. It's the download version of the PSP game. Jun's playing it on stage. He's quite excited - he claims he hasn't touched one before.
MHP 3 playable? nice.
if the 3g can give infrastructure then it would be awesome
Oli Welsh
NT Framework moble can do shaders, HDR rendering just as PS3. Light filters, shadows and all the physics are the same.
it uses sd cards khan
EB worthyQuote"The stick feels... great! You can quote me, that's my first impression.
it uses a cart like ds
So Yakuza 4 was ported in a really short time, maybe this is the game Purple Filth linked us to.
It's a Yakuza cut-scene. "We took about three months to export it to NGP."EG
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So Yakuza 4 was ported in a really short time, maybe this is the game Purple Filth linked us to.QuoteIt's a Yakuza cut-scene. "We took about three months to export it to NGP."EG
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That's the new Yakuza game. It's coming to psp2?
stream is back
and stream is gone. time for me to go to the gym
Software lineup is leaving a lot to be desired, to be honest. Will Squeenx save the day?
The demo used the model data and environments from the PS3 game, exported directly to NGP and rendered in real-time at 20 frames per second.
Kotaku Japan stream just died. Obviously Sony has heard my complaints.
this thing has to be a year off considering the lack of gameplay
this thing has to be a year off considering the lack of gameplay
Looks like it, unless they're prepping those for E3. I still highly doubt it's gonna be released this year, I hope it does though.
this thing has to be a year off considering the lack of gameplay
Looks like it, unless they're prepping those for E3. I still highly doubt it's gonna be released this year, I hope it does though.
they keep talking about how easy it is to port games, though...
It's smoother with more effects, to be fair, and Tim says NGP has roughly four times the performance we've seen on any previous mobile platform. They also like the console-style operating system with efficient control over memory and resources.
I'd be really surprised if they announced the price at this conference...unless it's 299 or less
Dungeon Defenders for NGP. originally for ps3. took less than one week to port.
Yeah, at this rate I doubt they'll announce a price. That's probably being saved for E3. Until then the media can go crazy and build lots of hype for it, thus raining on the 3DS' party.
Or announce it, at any rate. There's a COD logo superimposed on a picture of an NGP on the screen. Well done.
wonder when they'll show the television docking station with hdmi output
Kaz in on stage recapping and thanking his partners. There's a lisdt of developers who've announced there suport. It's pretty much everyone - I spot Rockstar, PopCap and Ubisoft, as well as the entire Japanese industry.
wonder when they'll show the television docking station with hdmi output
They showed one? So does that rules out video output from the device itself or in the case of HDMIs only?
if i hear about some sort of red read game coming to this thing i'll preorder one as soon as they're up
Show's over. No price.
$499 at the E3 conference. Calling it.
?Next generation portable entertainment system (codename: NGP) ?
CPU
ARM® CortexTM-A9 core (4 core)
GPU
SGX543MP4+
External Dimensions
Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection)
Screen
(Touch screen)
5 inches (16:9), 960 x 544, Approx. 16 million colors, OLED
Multi touch screen (capacitive type)
Rear touch pad
Multi touch pad (capacitive type)
Cameras
Front camera, Rear camera
Sound
Built-in stereo speakers
Built-in microphone
Sensors
Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass
Location
Built-in GPS
Wi-Fi location service support
Keys / Switches
PS button
Power button
Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left)
Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square)
Shoulder buttons (Right/Left)
Right stick, Left stick
START button, SELECT button
Volume buttons (+/-)
Wireless communications
Mobile network connectivity (3G)
IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode)
Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR ?A2DP/AVRCP/HSP?
if i hear about some sort of red read game coming to this thing i'll preorder one as soon as they're up
We might have to wait a lot.Event is over
What a really shitty event. System is a technology beast but nothing really important talked about too much. THe thing doesn't even have a name yet officially (but Kaz kept calling it the PSP2).
isn't GDC coming soon.
possible price point there or save it for E3.
Which is great if all you want is portable PS3 games. I was hoping for something more unique to the NGP but obviously that's not a popular opinion tonight. Maybe Sony will bundle NGP games with PS3 titles?
Hey, I'm impressed. Sony actually executed this thing pretty flawlessly. Games running in real time, clearly playable...that's a big step forward! No obvious blunders apart from perhaps the carts, but that is offset by all the download options. And Call of Duty and Monster Hunter ready to go? UE3 running? Uncharted running? If it can do all that, it can handle any old balls the likes of Koei dream up. Selling apps and games for it is also a very good move, if a tad predictable. That pretty much guarantees that you'll always have something to do, or some reason to look at the store. That's not the case right now.
Then again, it's totally a hardcore machine, and it might take years to get a decent install base. I have no idea. But I want one! All I've been asking for since PSP was unveiled was a portable FPS with that level of presentation with decent controls. Looks like we'll get oodles of them, and plenty more besides.
STILL :lol at you folks thinking it will cost more than $299 / ¥29,800 :lol
The specs say differently but if Sony wants to lose money, so be it.
iphone 4's cost of materials estimated at $188 in june 2010. This is going to be 1.5 years later, with similar features + a higher end cpu/gpu + big OLED display.
$300 should be possible. Will it happen? No idea.
For those panicking over price, there'll be an SKU, under $300 guaranteed, they'll probably won't even have to take a loss to reach that price point either.
Well,my hype has dwindled,spec were "known" for ages and there are like zero games that I'm interested in...potential,potential
I also wonder how good all this things will work...ready for launch,few years after,never?
Once hype goes down,I predict lots of disappointments once games are shown and delays begin...it seems that almost everyone has some tech demo(port) running,but nothing concrete
No talk about the battery,hmm...maybe some updated specs arrive
Price will probably be at E3
the ps3 was a special case, though -- ken's pet tech made for some nasty factory retooling, and the blu-ray drives were NOT cheap. for all of the fancy specs in the psp2, it is based on existing tech with existing fab lines. it's all off the shelf.
MGS4 tech demo runs at 20 fps
The idea that it will cost more than $299 baffles me. Honestly. ???
This looks boneriffic. That being said, I think the people who would be developing the best games on this are pretty much devoted to iDevices at this point, not sure how much crossover we will see.
I really wonder who will go balls out in developing on this thing.
I think the people who would be developing the best games on this are pretty much devoted to iDevices at this point, not sure how much crossover we will see.
dunno,EG said that(Kojima)MGS4 tech demo runs at 20 fps
How much time and with what tools did they accomplish that though? Tools evolve and improve...E3 should be REALLY interesting
dunno,EG said that(Kojima)MGS4 tech demo runs at 20 fps
How much time and with what tools did they accomplish that though? Tools evolve and improve...E3 should be REALLY interesting
Kinda like he wanted to show it's possible
Oh and apparently it plays PSP games,but you have to redownload them
guess why? :teehee
So are they going to put the entire PSP catalog up for download?
Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?
Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?
no no no,that's not what i meant,what i meant is that i seems to understand that ultimately no real software was shown and no price was announced so... *shrugs*
Hi folks, any questions about NGP for Sony Europe boss Andrew House? I'm interviewing him in half an hour. And yes, I know - price and battery life!
Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?
no no no,that's not what i meant,what i meant is that i seems to understand that ultimately no real software was shown and no price was announced so... *shrugs*
hype is going strong now magus,lay low :teehee
Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?
no no no,that's not what i meant,what i meant is that i seems to understand that ultimately no real software was shown and no price was announced so... *shrugs*
hype is going strong now magus,lay low :teehee
Haha, if you're not excited today, you never will be :lol
I don't even want or need a handheld personally.
btw,EG editor posted thisQuoteHi folks, any questions about NGP for Sony Europe boss Andrew House? I'm interviewing him in half an hour. And yes, I know - price and battery life!
So you can ask something if you have an account or I can ask them for you
Region-locking?
The recently announced PSP2, codenamed Next Generation Portable, has a battery life of between four and five hours, Eurogamer has been told by a source.
Six to eight hours of life was Sony's original target, Eurogamer understands.
Sony announced the NGP this morning at a Tokyo press, but failed to discuss the device's battery life.
It did, however, reveal specifications.
The NGP boasts a ARM Cortex A9 (4 core) PU, a SGX543MP4+ GPU, a five inch (16:9), 960 x 544, 16 million colours OLED screen, and a multi touch pad on the back.
Then there's a Sixaxis motion sensing system, a three-axis electronic compass, and built-in GPS and Wi-Fi location service support.
As for wireless, expect 3G mobile network connectivity, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth support.
The NGP's four to five hour battery life is similar to that of the Nintendo 3DS. Depending on the level of brightness used and whether you're playing a 3DS-specific game, the Nintendo 3DS should last between three and five hours on a single charge.
NGP pricing is also yet to be revealed, but Eurogamer was told this morning that Sony will "make a loss".
NGP pricing is also yet to be revealed, but Eurogamer was told this morning that Sony will "make a loss".
Once hacked, greatest portable device ever.
Interesting thing,no tv-out
I don't see it mentioned anywhere
Interesting thing,no tv-out
I don't see it mentioned anywhere
Yeah, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (probably 'G' by then) playable with the right stick for the camera is going to secure them a pretty healthy launch in Japan alone.
Multiple versions of the NGP will launch from late 2011, each with Wi-Fi capability. Only one, however, will also feature 3G.
"The first thing to clarify, which I'm not sure the presentation did a perfect job of doing today, is that all of the devices will have Wi-Fi capability; a separate SKU will have 3G," House said.
"So the user gets a choice. Wi-Fi is available wherever, which clearly is the most important aspect of connectivity and that connected experience; 3G will be a subset of that."
Sony is currently "working hard" on 3G partnerships. House confirmed there will be some cost to the user for 3G services.
It is bigger than the psp. It showed that it would be the norm for using a backpack to carry it around. The japanese would probably get cramps using the thing. Mark my words, the ngp will be less of a success than the psp.
From the size comparison it doesn't look much bigger than the 3000, about the 1000's size, and it's definitely more slim than the 1000. Also, it no longer has a UMD drive, which means it's actually probably lighter than the original PSP. I don't anticipate the Japanese having any problems here. And even if it required a backpack to carry it around, uh, that's not much of a hindrance for Japan. Almost every man in this country carries a murse.
Multiple versions of the NGP will launch from late 2011, each with Wi-Fi capability. Only one, however, will also feature 3G.
"The first thing to clarify, which I'm not sure the presentation did a perfect job of doing today, is that all of the devices will have Wi-Fi capability; a separate SKU will have 3G," House said.
"So the user gets a choice. Wi-Fi is available wherever, which clearly is the most important aspect of connectivity and that connected experience; 3G will be a subset of that."
Sony is currently "working hard" on 3G partnerships. House confirmed there will be some cost to the user for 3G services.
Sony has moved to calm excitement that its Next Generation Portable will allow users to game online while out and about using its 3G function.
Actual simultaneous gameplay will "depend very much on the degree of data traffic that's being driven by that online game" SCEE boss Andrew House told Eurogamer.
What is perhaps more realistic, however, is asynchronous gaming.
Explained House: "One area that I'm particularly excited about is the idea of asynchronous gaming, whereby the game experience is existing either on a PS3 or on your NGP, and then the 3G ability is the real-time, you know, 'you're under attack, you've got to go do something,' messaging, just keeping that link with you, which clearly is not very heavy in terms of data traffic, but creates a whole different sense to the experience."
hmm, my original assessment may have been closer after all, $299 Wifi with 16GB, $399+ with 3G and 32GB
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it's a monstrosity
Tim Sweeney from EpicQuoteIt's smoother with more effects, to be fair, and Tim says NGP has roughly four times the performance we've seen on any previous mobile platform. They also like the console-style operating system with efficient control over memory and resources.
Tim Sweeney from EpicQuoteIt's smoother with more effects, to be fair, and Tim says NGP has roughly four times the performance we've seen on any previous mobile platform. They also like the console-style operating system with efficient control over memory and resources.
:bow Tim Sweeney :bow2
Maybe he'll port ZZT to it.
This thing looks fucking HOT. Are games downloadable only or will there be physical games?
The demos that have been shown don't really convince me of PS3 equivalent power. The image quality is really nice in that Uncharted demo, possibly even better than on the PS3 games but there's so little going on. Same thing with MGS4. It reminded me of the dog and pony show that Nintendo staged with the Resident Evil demo which got everyone crooning about 3DS having PS3/360 graphics.
Low level APIs will allow the Sony NGP to perform about a generation beyond smart phones with comparable specs.
I'm still skeptical about the processing power. At such a small resolution, a fast single core GPU makes more sense than a Quad-core GPU. That GPU could be outdated like the RSX in two years.
The demos that have been shown don't really convince me of PS3 equivalent power. The image quality is really nice in that Uncharted demo, possibly even better than on the PS3 games but there's so little going on. Same thing with MGS4. It reminded me of the dog and pony show that Nintendo staged with the Resident Evil demo which got everyone crooning about 3DS having PS3/360 graphics.
from John Carmack
http://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/30655938016837632QuoteLow level APIs will allow the Sony NGP to perform about a generation beyond smart phones with comparable specs.
I don't even know what that means but I'm excited.
i can see that back touchpad potentially being a hand-cramper, looks like you have to grip the back with your fingertips to avoid accidentally touching it during gameplay
i can see that back touchpad potentially being a hand-cramper, looks like you have to grip the back with your fingertips to avoid accidentally touching it during gameplay
the gyroscope looks pretty awesome, though, when that dude used the sniper rifle in the uncharted demo my eyes lit up
Take is as a rumor
Some third party dev twitter said something like "wait until tomorrow"
Maybe they postponed third party announcements
I refuse to believe that Square has nothing to show
Bunch of first party ports and COD...that can't be right,right?
western support at E3
proprietary flash memory card for games and expanding storage
small games exclusively on PSN
other games...same will have both retail,PSN release and some won't,larger games will have both
PSN id movable to NGP
BC compatible with PSP PSN games,improved graphics(a little)
I don't think there is a removable battery. After the pandora battery thing, they stopped with the go.
From that gamespot interviewQuotewestern support at E3
proprietary flash memory card for games and expanding storage
small games exclusively on PSN
other games...same will have both retail,PSN release and some won't,larger games will have both
PSN id movable to NGP
BC compatible with PSP PSN games,improved graphics(a little)
I don't think there is a removable battery. After the pandora battery thing, they stopped with the go.
Sony response to hacker ruining everything. PS3 is next :\
The worst part of these stupid systems without removable battery is you go on 12-20 hour plane flight and after it dies in 3 hours you're fucked :( With PSP1 I'd bring like 3 batteries with me for those types of flights.
From that gamespot interviewQuotewestern support at E3
proprietary flash memory card for games and expanding storage
small games exclusively on PSN
other games...same will have both retail,PSN release and some won't,larger games will have both
PSN id movable to NGP
BC compatible with PSP PSN games,improved graphics(a little)
hmm, there wasn't any mention of storage in the specs list - maybe there isn't going to be a built-in drive?
I don't think there is a removable battery. After the pandora battery thing, they stopped with the go.
Sony response to hacker ruining everything. PS3 is next :\
The worst part of these stupid systems without removable battery is you go on 12-20 hour plane flight and after it dies in 3 hours you're fucked :( With PSP1 I'd bring like 3 batteries with me for those types of flights.
I don't think there is a removable battery. After the pandora battery thing, they stopped with the go.
Sony response to hacker ruining everything. PS3 is next :\
The worst part of these stupid systems without removable battery is you go on 12-20 hour plane flight and after it dies in 3 hours you're fucked :( With PSP1 I'd bring like 3 batteries with me for those types of flights.
well, they do make charge grips or external charge packs that can be used. I had one for my PSP-1000 back when I used to travel more. I'm sure both the 3DS and NGP will get one. There are a bunch already for the iphone. If they go with USB charging, like they should, there are even more options.
but yeah, it's a shame there is no removable battery.
and I wonder what they mean by proprietary for expanding storage. i knew that games would come on them, but I expected regular SD or media cards. Proprietary just screams "we will fuck you up the ass with price because we can"
Games are $50 in the US. No doubt. HD games at slightly lower quality for $10 less.
In Japan they'll be 6800yen (~$70). Same as high end PS2/Wii, low end PS3/X360.
I bet there will be combo packs too. Like $70-80 for PS3+PSP2 copies with shareable save files.
An overpriced handheld launching with a lackluster handful of ports of games from apopularconsole.
Didn't the GBA have SNES emulation? Not expecting full speed but it would be nice to have some form of emulation.Oh hell no. Those "SNES games" were built from scratch for the GBA. :-\
Didn't the GBA have SNES emulation? Not expecting full speed but it would be nice to have some form of emulation.Oh hell no. Those "SNES games" were built from scratch for the GBA. :-\
jesus - just got back from a group meet up
wtf is wrong with Nintendo fans?!
"Battery life will be shit" "games look shit" "it's too big" "Lol ports of PS3 games" etc etc
backed into a corner
making shit up
outclassed and not a single game of note
PSP2 is Nintendo baby eater
whilst PSP to DS was Dreamcast vs N64, PSP2 to 3DS is PS3 vs N64 (BUT THIS TIME 3D!!!)QuoteAn overpriced handheld launching with a lackluster handful of ports of games from a popular console. Good to see Sony is switching the game plan up a bit
yeah, because the fucking Nintendo game plan is so much more refined!!! Filth N-thing, grow a brain next time
jesus - just got back from a group meet up
wtf is wrong with Nintendo fans?!
"Battery life will be shit" "games look shit" "it's too big" "Lol ports of PS3 games" etc etc
backed into a corner
making shit up
outclassed and not a single game of note
PSP2 is Nintendo baby eater
whilst PSP to DS was Dreamcast vs N64, PSP2 to 3DS is PS3 vs N64 (BUT THIS TIME 3D!!!)QuoteAn overpriced handheld launching with a lackluster handful of ports of games from a popular console. Good to see Sony is switching the game plan up a bit
yeah, because the fucking Nintendo game plan is so much more refined!!! Filthy N-thing, grow a brain next time
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=020163&loc=homeflash1&affID=77777&sourceID=FKSJxY2VJAk-HoK9zjUtwSimigda6fg1OAHahaha, it's going to be half of that max for the top model if they have any sense. The no disc drive thing is cool in terms of machine size but I never owned an og PSP and there's some shit on it that I'd like to be able to play without worrying about wether or not it's on the stupid PSN storefront. :-\
Gamestop aiming high :lol
It was just stunning to hear self proclaimed N-things spout out negatives that applied EVEN MORE SO against their prefered next gen hand held of choice.
You're my boy and all dc, but real talk, this is exactly what you guys sounded like a couple weeks ago about the 3DS.
We still don't know how much this thing is going to cost, mang. Sony's idea of 'affordable' is kinda whack. So all the great tech is moot if its not affordable.
Now as to software, the problem I see is that the revealed stuff are ps3 retreads, and nothing in this world makes me want to play Uncharted anything, or uh Resistance. It was typical tame shit when it was released on the ps3 and it still is. Wipeout looks cool. As I've said, the capacitive touch screen is a huge boon for courting ios developers, and thats the most interesting implication of the future software prospects.
3ds is launching weak, but Nintendo usually comes through with interesting software.
QuoteYou're my boy and all dc, but real talk, this is exactly what you guys sounded like a couple weeks ago about the 3DS.
yea personaly i think that so far both alternative are awfull
it's kinda like aliens vs predator
WHOEVER WINS WE LOSE
jesus - just got back from a group meet up
wtf is wrong with Nintendo fans?!
"Battery life will be shit" "games look shit" "it's too big" "Lol ports of PS3 games" etc etc
backed into a corner
making shit up
outclassed and not a single game of note
PSP2 is Nintendo baby eater
whilst PSP to DS was Dreamcast vs N64, PSP2 to 3DS is PS3 vs N64 (BUT THIS TIME 3D!!!)
yeah, because the fucking Nintendo game plan is so much more refined!!! Filthy N-thing, grow a brain next time
You're my boy and all dc, but real talk, this is exactly what you guys sounded like a couple weeks ago about the 3DS.
Its weird seeing handhelds games being projected to a giant screen and still looking pretty good graphically
We still don't know how much this thing is going to cost, mang. Sony's idea of 'affordable' is kinda whack. So all the great tech is moot if its not affordable.
Now as to software, the problem I see is that the revealed stuff are ps3 retreads, and nothing in this world makes me want to play Uncharted anything, or uh Resistance. It was typical tame shit when it was released on the ps3 and it still is. Wipeout looks cool. As I've said, the capacitive touch screen is a huge boon for courting ios developers, and thats the most interesting implication of the future software prospects.
3ds is launching weak, but Nintendo usually comes through with interesting software.
it's pretty obvious that this thing is a ways off and we don't know all about it, or even its launch, so talk of ngp software at this point is silly
So, will this be successful outside of Japan? The psp mindshare (party like its 2005!) has shriveled up elsewhere and I'm skeptical if it can sell well out of the gate. I can appreciate that they are trying to do their own thing but will it work?
QuoteYou're my boy and all dc, but real talk, this is exactly what you guys sounded like a couple weeks ago about the 3DS.
yea personaly i think that so far both alternative are awfull
it's kinda like aliens vs predator
WHOEVER WINS WE LOSE
oh yeah, i agree Oscar
and my take is still to not underestimate the fact that Nintendo have the captive Handheld market : no amount of power will change the fact that Nintendo will have the next Pokemon, mario, dobutsu etc on the follow up to the best selling games machine of all time.
Be in no doubt that i'm aware that Nintendo will still likely win and most of the post above is little more than bravado
However, Sony made a ton of right moves today - and it STILL doesn't mean that Nintendo fans aren't full of shit.
you know what the funniest complaint was today? That the PSP2 doesn't support UMD...
... from a nintendo fan...
... who never owned a PSP1.
So WHAT IS THE FUCKING COMPLAINT AGAIN!?!?!?
dumb cock guzzling SHIT PEDDLERS
So the PSP2 will probably become profitable faster than the PS3 (I wonder if the PS3 will be profitable in the near future) making it more likely to be sold at a lower and more competitive price? Okay then.
So, will this be successful outside of Japan? The psp mindshare (party like its 2005!) has shriveled up elsewhere and I'm skeptical if it can sell well out of the gate. I can appreciate that they are trying to do their own thing but will it work?
CONCERN TROLL IS CONCERNED. :'(
It just seems to me people are trying to discredit this thing without established info just because.
well, fuck them.
note: almost every one is a nintendo fan of some sort. hmmmmmmmmm
QuoteYou're my boy and all dc, but real talk, this is exactly what you guys sounded like a couple weeks ago about the 3DS.
yea personaly i think that so far both alternative are awfull
it's kinda like aliens vs predator
WHOEVER WINS WE LOSE
You're just mad because neither are hacked yet :spin
Kinda like how everyone ignores Wii games and then says it has no games.
PSP is still more powerful and advanced than the 3DS :lol
Jury is still out on that one himu...
Jury is still out on that one himu...
when psp can do the shaders that 3ds can do in that resident evil game, i will concede
So, will this be successful outside of Japan? The psp mindshare (party like its 2005!) has shriveled up elsewhere and I'm skeptical if it can sell well out of the gate. I can appreciate that they are trying to do their own thing but will it work?
Psp transformed itself into a worthy opponent in Japan on the back of Monster Hunter.
don't disregard lower-priced camera/arg games as a selling point for either one of these devices, i think it's going to be the next "big thing" (moreso than 3D) as far as handheld gaming goes
whereas a lot of people are going to turn off that 3D forever after they get their first headache from it, just about everyone thinks it's pretty neat to have stuff they can interact with "magically" appearing on their desktop (or what have you)
Japan will be interesting
this device could really hit hard on Nintendo
Monster Hunter is there...new version for PSP2 is definitely coming and if Capcom uses that connectivity shit,all those transistors,3DS version won't matter much
Get Square on board,remake bunch of FF games(FF7),maybe steal DQ
third party will follow
oh boy
of course everything will depend on how sales will go,match the price Sony...in Japan,the rest is not important
Device design is excellent,powerful but still flexible and developer friendly...sounds familiar :smug
Psp transformed itself into a worthy opponent in Japan on the back of Monster Hunter.
But isn't that at last somewhat due to the fact that every man, woman, and child in Japan already had a DS?
Japan will be interesting
this device could really hit hard on Nintendo
Monster Hunter is there...new version for PSP2 is definitely coming and if Capcom uses that connectivity shit,all those transistors,3DS version won't matter much
Get Square on board,remake bunch of FF games(FF7),maybe steal DQ
third party will follow
oh boy
of course everything will depend on how sales will go,match the price Sony...in Japan,the rest is not important
Device design is excellent,powerful but still flexible and developer friendly...sounds familiar :smug
Good points maxy. And as you say, it all depends on sales. I think both will be strong out the gate, with the 3DS ahead; it seems to be right up Japan's alley. Square could probably decide who ultimately comes out on top
Square is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Outside of Dragon Quest their games aren't going to matter for capturing a wider audience. Monster Hunter will sell psp2. I doubt Pilotwings is going to bouy 3ds, but Nintendo built up a nice portfolio of ds megasellers this past gen to rely on. Nintendo Dogs+Cats, new Rhythm Tengoku, new Tomadachi Collection, Animal Crossing, Mario Platformer all need to be fast tracked.
Square is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Outside of Dragon Quest their games aren't going to matter for capturing a wider audience. Monster Hunter will sell psp2. I doubt Pilotwings is going to bouy 3ds, but Nintendo built up a nice portfolio of ds megasellers this past gen to rely on. Nintendo Dogs+Cats, new Rhythm Tengoku, new Tomadachi Collection, Animal Crossing, Mario Platformer all need to be fast tracked.
there was an alternative in that era? PS2 was a system for EVERYONE.
Gamestop says they will start taking pre-orders in stores within two weeks and they're also saying it'll be $999. IDIOTS.
Why WAS this conference so early in the year? :lol
is tactics ogre: luct getting a psn release?
Here is Sony's list of third-party publishers supporting the NGP as of July 27, 2011:
JAPAN
* ACQUIRE Corp.
* ALVION Inc.
* AQ INTERACTIVE INC.
* ARC SYSTEM WORKS Co.,Ltd.
* ARIKA CO.,LTD.
* ARTDINK CORPORATION
* ASCII MEDIA WORKS Inc.
* CAPCOM CO., LTD．
* CHUN SOFT CO., Ltd
* Codemasters Software Company Limited
* Crafts & Meister Co.,Ltd.
* CyberConnect2 Co.,Ltd.
* D3 PUBLISHER Inc.
* Dimps Corporation
* Edia Co., Ltd.
* ENTERBRAIN, INC.
* FromSoftware, Inc
* Gameloft K.K.
* Genki Co.,Ltd.
* Grasshopper Manufacture Inc.
* GungHo Online Entertainment,Inc
* GUST CO.,LTD.
* HAMSTER Corporation
* HUDSON SOFT CO., LTD.
* IDEA FACTORY CO., LTD.
* Index Corporation （Atlus）
* IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.
* KADOKAWA GAMES,LTD.
* Kadokawa Shoten Publishing Co., Ltd.
* Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
* LEVEL-5 Inc.
* Marvelous Entertainment Inc.
* media5 Corporation
* NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
* Nihon Falcom Corporation
* Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
* NOWPRODUCTION, CO.,LTD
* Q Entertainment Inc.
* SEGA CORPORATION
* SNK PLAYMORE CORPORATION
* Spike Co.,Ltd
* SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd.
* SystemSoft Alpha Corp.
* TECMO KOEI GAMES CO., LTD.
* TOMY Company,Ltd.
* TOSE CO., LTD.
* Ubisoft K.K.
* YUKE'S Co., Ltd.
48 companies in total.
NORTH AMERICA
* Activision, Inc.
* Capybara Games
* Demiurge Studios
* Epic Games Inc.
* Far Sight Studios
* Frima
* High Voltage Software
* Kung Fu Factory
* Paramount Digital Entertainment
* PopCap Games
* Powerhead Games
* Trendy Entertainment
* Ubisoft
* Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
* 2K Games
* 2K Sports
16 companies in total.
EUROPE/PAL
* Avalanche Studios
* Climax Studios Ltd
* Codemasters Software Company Ltd
* Eurocom Developments Ltd
* Eutechnyx Ltd
* Exient Ltd
* Firemint PTY Ltd
* Gameloft SA
* Gusto Games Ltd
* Home Entertainment Suppliers PTY Ltd
* Impromptu Software Ltd
* Rebellion
* Rockstar Games
* Sidhe Interactive
* Sumo Digital Ltd
* Team 17 Software Ltd
* Ubisoft Entertainment SA
* Zen Studios Ltd
"We are discussing the issue with Sony but have no announcements to make today," Electronic Arts's spokesperson Wendy Spander said. "EA has a great relationship with Sony. We are the number one publisher on PS3."
UE3
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyNSJHafxrA&feature=feedu[/youtube]
NGP :bow2
Just remember, no EA killed the Dreamcast.
EA better be on board by launch.
I'm with Himu on the "Ejaculate on both" wagon, but I'll be ejaculating earlier and more often on the PSP2, by the looks of things. I mean, Wipeout.
No EA,lolQuote"We are discussing the issue with Sony but have no announcements to make today," Electronic Arts's spokesperson Wendy Spander said. "EA has a great relationship with Sony. We are the number one publisher on PS3."
No Cave or Falcom in the Japanese list :(
Ys VIII for NGP would be :rock
Nihon Falcom Corporation
No Caveor Falcomin the Japanese list :(
Ys VIII for NGP would be :rock
Cave didn't do anything for the DS or PSP either, so it's not surprising they haven't jumped on board with the new systems just yet.
edit: actually that's not true. Cave made Princess Debut for the DS. :lol
QuoteHere is Sony's list of third-party publishers supporting the NGP as of July 27, 2011:
JAPAN
* ACQUIRE Corp.
* ALVION Inc.
* AQ INTERACTIVE INC.
* ARC SYSTEM WORKS Co.,Ltd.
* ARIKA CO.,LTD.
* ARTDINK CORPORATION
* ASCII MEDIA WORKS Inc.
* CAPCOM CO., LTD．
* CHUN SOFT CO., Ltd
* Codemasters Software Company Limited
* Crafts & Meister Co.,Ltd.
* CyberConnect2 Co.,Ltd.
* D3 PUBLISHER Inc.
* Dimps Corporation
* Edia Co., Ltd.
* ENTERBRAIN, INC.
* FromSoftware, Inc
* Gameloft K.K.
* Genki Co.,Ltd.
* Grasshopper Manufacture Inc.
* GungHo Online Entertainment,Inc
* GUST CO.,LTD.
* HAMSTER Corporation
* HUDSON SOFT CO., LTD.
* IDEA FACTORY CO., LTD.
* Index Corporation （Atlus）
* IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.
* KADOKAWA GAMES,LTD.
* Kadokawa Shoten Publishing Co., Ltd.
* Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
* LEVEL-5 Inc.
* Marvelous Entertainment Inc.
* media5 Corporation
* NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc.
* Nihon Falcom Corporation
* Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
* NOWPRODUCTION, CO.,LTD
* Q Entertainment Inc.
* SEGA CORPORATION
* SNK PLAYMORE CORPORATION
* Spike Co.,Ltd
* SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd.
* SystemSoft Alpha Corp.
* TECMO KOEI GAMES CO., LTD.
* TOMY Company,Ltd.
* TOSE CO., LTD.
* Ubisoft K.K.
* YUKE'S Co., Ltd.
48 companies in total.
NORTH AMERICA
* Activision, Inc.
* Capybara Games
* Demiurge Studios
* Epic Games Inc.
* Far Sight Studios
* Frima
* High Voltage Software
* Kung Fu Factory
* Paramount Digital Entertainment
* PopCap Games
* Powerhead Games
* Trendy Entertainment
* Ubisoft
* Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
* 2K Games
* 2K Sports
16 companies in total.
EUROPE/PAL
* Avalanche Studios
* Climax Studios Ltd
* Codemasters Software Company Ltd
* Eurocom Developments Ltd
* Eutechnyx Ltd
* Exient Ltd
* Firemint PTY Ltd
* Gameloft SA
* Gusto Games Ltd
* Home Entertainment Suppliers PTY Ltd
* Impromptu Software Ltd
* Rebellion
* Rockstar Games
* Sidhe Interactive
* Sumo Digital Ltd
* Team 17 Software Ltd
* Ubisoft Entertainment SA
* Zen Studios Ltd
No EA,lolQuote"We are discussing the issue with Sony but have no announcements to make today," Electronic Arts's spokesperson Wendy Spander said. "EA has a great relationship with Sony. We are the number one publisher on PS3."
I'm predicting a colossal bomb for this shit.
???
this looks awesomeI'm happy with it, I just think it's going to bomb. It's sort of the "PSP2" of portable gaming systems if you know what I mean.
agree it is PS4 not PSP2
if you are not happy with this then WHAT THE FUCK do you want from your portable gaming consoles
power, speed, features, everything
:bow Sony Hubris :bow2
True. I think the DS set an impossible bar and both handhelds will fall flat on their faces a year in.
Yes with improved graphics.Source?
Everything I've seen so far indicates that NGP is gonna be an even bigger bomb than the PSP. Forget the DS, I don't think NGP would even sell as well as the PSP did. Unless Sony magically gets PS2 levels of support, the power advantage is gonna make much less difference than people here are expecting. In all likelihood, we still gonna get 9 crappy looking games for every game that makes good use of the NGP's power. Ghost of Sparta looked amazing on the PSP but that was the only PSP with such high quality graphics in the last two years.
FromSoftware, Inc
also who gives a fuck how it sells, it's the swiss army knife of portable game systems, and even if it tanks once it's hacked it will be like carrying a unicorn dick jizzing rainbows in your
Everything I've seen so far indicates that NGP is gonna be an even bigger bomb than the PSP. Forget the DS, I don't think NGP would even sell as well as the PSP did. Unless Sony magically gets PS2 levels of support, the power advantage is gonna make much less difference than people here are expecting. In all likelihood, we still gonna get 9 crappy looking games for every game that makes good use of the NGP's power. Ghost of Sparta looked amazing on the PSP but that was the only PSP with such high quality graphics in the last two years.
Plenty of Weaboo games pushing visuals like that since it's the main system over there right now.
Peace Walker, Kingdom Hearts BBS, The Third Birthday, Dissidia, Valkyria Chronicles 3, etc..are at least pushing PS2 graphics on the PSP.
It is also a stark contrast to the underwhelming 3DS reveal with half assed port jobs of decade old titles to be sold at full price.
The list of confirmed devs is hot too.Quote from: dev listFromSoftware, Inc
Demons Souls portable :drool
More like Armored Core part 99 and 100.
More like Armored Core part 99 and 100.
The list of confirmed devs is hot too.Quote from: dev listFromSoftware, Inc
Demons Souls portable :drool
More like Armored Core part 99 and 100.
More like Kings Field Portable 2!
I'll take Metal Wolf Chaos port though as well.
Did MWC ever make it over here? I've heard weeaboos talk about it but have never seen it.
During Sony's event, the NGP's beautiful OLED screen was stunning. It looks even more stunning up close. The touch elements on the front screen were more than serviceable, offering a new experience for PlayStation Portable gamers.
At first glace, the NGP seems large. It is, measuring out larger than the PSP-3000. But while it isn't the smallest handheld on the block, it is surprisingly light.
...
Unlike the smaller PSPgo, the NGP fits comfortably in the hands. On the back, there is a touch pad, which is glossy and slick to the touch. Initial worries are that it'll get guncky with dirt and grime. Using it, however, felt quite natural as my finger movement responded directly to the onscreen action. There are Sony's iconic button icons as a monogram. Next to them are grips for one's hands.
...
The dual thumbsticks were a revelation — fast, responsive and easy to use. For those who always felt that the PSP's thumb "nub" never got it right, you'll be more than pleasantly surprised. The NGP, for as large as it seems, left me pleasantly surprised. It's light, and it is beautiful.
There's something about the NGP that is simple, something that pops. Nintendo might've pioneered touch-based gaming, but Sony is taking it in an entirely different direction.
...
The addition of touch controls on the front screen worked well in Uncharted. Players can tap vines and ledges, causing Drake to jump towards them automatically. It makes the gameplay easier than the traditional Uncharted on the PS3, but it works. The touch feature that I liked the best in Uncharted was the ability to use a swipe motion on the front screen due to the close proximity of the thumbsticks. So controlling Drake and the camera with the two thumbsticks, and then using a swipe on the touchscreen felt very natural and hardly gimmicky.
....
And the dual thumb "nubs" made this Uncharted feel like...Uncharted. The addition of the additional thumb nub truly gives this portable a PlayStation feel, replicating the experience of using two thumbsticks like on the PS3 controller. It's not hobbled like the PSP, which only has one thumb nub.
(http://www.abload.de/img/uncharted_ngppfeq.jpg)
:bow :bow2
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Why wouldnt From Software want to make a Demon Souls on this?
More like Armored Core part 99 and 100.
Also Sony reusing franchises that are either this gen (LBP, Uncharted, Resistance), or last gens (Killzone, COD) is better then Nintendo reusing franchises that are 25 year old (Mario, Zelda everything else on the 3DS).
:piss Nintendo :piss2
of course there is only one console zelda game,they were busy milking the way more popular mario! :smug
The list of confirmed devs is hot too.Quote from: dev listFromSoftware, Inc
Demons Souls portable :drool
More like Armored Core part 99 and 100.
More like Kings Field Portable 2!
it makes the gameplay easier than the traditional Uncharted on the PS3,
Sorry there really isnt a comparison.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-28-epic-ngp-perfect-for-gears-style-game
Guess what Gears of War: Exile is guys!
Actually, I don't think Microsoft would let go of the Gears franchise (can't have a Halo game every year) but they probably wouldn't care if it was on a handheld.
I wonder if Microsoft would ever refuse a Gears sequel.
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper
:lolI want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper
At least it'll be on youtube if you still can't afford either system by then. :spin
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper
At least it'll be on youtube if you still can't afford either system by then. :spin
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper
At least it'll be on youtube if you still can't afford either system by then. :spin
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.
here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :
Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".
The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)
Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.
Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable
Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.
here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :
Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".
The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)
Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.
Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable
Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.
was the psp not a long term success though? certain in Japan it was and whilst software sales mainly died (MH apart) the Hardware sales were good. We're talking a first cut Sony handheld here going up against Nintendo in the handheld space and were the only competitor to actually gain any traction in the space.
Seems like I remember someone on GAF saying that Resistance Retribution used the second analog stick so maybe some other games have it built in as well?
Resistance was a special case. If I remember right, it was kind of a flagship product for playing via remote play or some shit like that. To the point that there was content you could only access if you had a PS3 to connect it to.
However, I would not at all be surprised if developers had been leaving little hooks in as soon as Sony gave the go ahead that PSP2 would have two sticks and BC.
And yes, the 3DS will have similar games AND Pokemon / Mario etc but -won't- have the top end console equivalent games which seems to be being lauded as a -good- thing for Nintendo by their fans and it's that argument i simply don't get. Hell, they are probably even right and i'm being a grumpy old fuck but it's just amazing to hear - Sony were screwed with the PSP2 either way it seems. Make it less powerful and focus on handheld style games = no point , Nintendo will eat you - Give it more power and open up the system for a wider range of games = I don't want console style games on a handheld. :-\
$299 - it's happening - fish are hooked in right nao. !>< :>------------=========@===
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.
here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :
Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".
The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)
Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.
Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable
Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.
pokemon is more "long" and tedious than any console game this gen
same with monster hunter
start E3 or whenever they next show it off like this (skip to 3:45)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFt_g2kMDYg#t=3m42s
[youtube=560,345]IFt_g2kMDYg[/youtube]
I don't mind mini games and iphone-like games personally.
i wasn't pointing at you, just the circular logic of the complaint factory in general
QuoteDon't get me wrong, Uncharted looks outstanding, and the PSP2 is obviously throwing the best visuals we've seen on a handheld so far, but this whole "It looks just like PS3!" hyperbole really needs to chill a little. It looks as close to PS3 as PSP did to PS2. Amazing, but definitely not the same.
and this is why Sony's PR this time is perfect. Look at what they did differently - they didn't show too much in the way of long CG bullshit, they had real demos and made sure it was shown on a real life machine to counteract any "lol fake" arguments.
As you say, the machine ISN'T PS3 but everyone believes it is - most markedly the fans of the competitors think that it is and that's why this is so so easy for Sony now.
Also - i don't even think this was the -real- announcement. It sounds like they've got a whole load more stuff to drop and they're keeping it back. This was more of a retort to the 3DS launch to get all up in Nintendo's grill. E3 is probably going to be the "real" reveal. ($299, full line up, ps2 store etc)
with freeze/pause states, any point the "bubububuconsole games on handhelds are too long/won't work" argument may have had in the past is rendered moot, not that it wasn't a complete bullshit argument to begin with. you can just pause that shit whenever you want and bust it out again later.
How are you so sure of the pricepoint DC?
I could see some gimped model at $299,maybe even less
I could see some gimped model at $299,maybe even less
the more i think about it the more i believe what i mentioned earlier, that a lower-end wifi-only model with no onboard storage and a different (upper-end lcd?) screen will be offered for mainstream affordability, and the one they showed this week is the top-of-the-line rig
and i'm fine with that, oled and 3g are nice but damned if i want to pay $200 extra dollars for them
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.
here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :
Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".
The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)
Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.
Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable
Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.
As great as the NGP sounds, I remain skeptical overall for that very reason.
christ, the butthurtedness from both fan bases is terrible. both handhelds look fucking awesome. the real answer is to get both and stfu
Although Sony has yet to reveal the price on the thing, I still stand by that a bare boned unit will come out at $299 and a premium pack for $349. The downside for the NGP is that its manufacturer is Sony, a company who has fucked up the most in recent times. As great as the NGP sounds, I remain skeptical overall for that very reason.
i want the one that's gonna look best covered in dust
listen, i can only afford one handheld which will sit on a shelf unplayed after six months, and i want the one that's gonna look best covered in dust
ZuneHD and some of the Samung phones have OLEDS and are priced below $200.
Like others in this thread have mentioned, the NGP's hardware really isn't that ridiculous compared to a high-end smartphone, especially a year from now. This is why I think that a price below $300 is possible. If phone companies can figure out how to sell a Samsung Vibrant for $99, so can Sony. They just might have to bundle a data plan with it. I think most people would be fine with a $15 monthly fee for two years if the NGP is around $250 to $300.
I keep hearing there will be stuff just as powerful within a few months, i.e. long before NGP hits the market.
I keep hearing there will be stuff just as powerful within a few months, i.e. long before NGP hits the market.
I don't think that'll happen, not in a few months, not before the NGP is released. Something half of its power will be released this year, but the NGP will enjoy a lead in tech for at least a year after its release. As in two years from now.
But don't quote me on this, my only reference is the B3D NGP thread.
Give me your rationale as to why all the other companies should wait when they can simply buy the same parts, please!
Well ok, but I've heard it directly from people in the hardware biz. I can't back that up without giving up a friend who is NDA'ed up the ass, but anyone who knows me IRL will be able to figure it out :lol
I mean, we know this much at least (leaked Nvidia internal roadmap):
(http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2011_1_23/Tegra-2-3D-and-Tegra-3-launches/Nvidia-Tegra-2011-roadmap.jpg)
Fall 2011 will see Tegra 3 - that's comfortably before NGP. And the Tegra 2 is already pushing similar power to NGP in phones coming in Feb. (the Atrix, not to mention the Xoom tablet). By fall/winter, these things will be everywhere thanks to the insanely competitive nature of the Android device market. Whether devs decide to make or port 5gig 'real' games for them is a different question - but they sure as hell could.
I still think 3G will be standard across the board, mostly because it costs less than $5/unit to implement and it would sharply divide the market and development for the potential 3G applications. I think we will see a difference in storage space between the two units, and maybe the cheaper one will just require you to sign up for a data plan or something like that. Ultimately I think this is all futile speculation until E3 rolls around.spoiler (click to show/hide)What we do know is that the 3DS is massively overpriced for a console with 2002 technology and 15 year old ports of games we've all played 5,000 times. Will it have better games in the future? Yes. Will it win in terms of overall sales? Yes. But it will be inarguable that the PSP2 doesn't offer a vastly superior gaming and user experience and that's why fanboys are clamoring with hypocritical, inconceivable arguments.[close]
Well, we've got a Sony rep on record already saying that there will be a model without 3G, so unless they change their minds, 3G won't be standard.
ok, sorry, I did some double-checking with my buddy and no, the Tegra 2 stuff that is coming this year is not going to be NGP level. But very soon after, he thinks we'll be seeing stuff on that level in phones, and probably before that in tablets.
Already said sorry! But the basic point stands, I think. We are not dealing with the future of mobile computing or graphics processing here, we are very much dealing with something that lots of others are working with right now. Anybody who wants to assemble this stuff and stick a label on it can do so.
:lol Europe :lol
Hey, could be worse. Could have been an SCEA rep. :P
Did they talk about PS1 and digital downloads compatibility?
I'm already fucked as a PSP Go user so the least I could ask for is for my downloaded games to work on this.
:lol Europe :lol
Hey, could be worse. Could have been an SCEA rep. :P
SCEA President/CEO Jack Tretton: A WiFi-only version? "We haven't made any determination on models yet," which is infinitely more vague than the confirmation of non-3G SKUs from SCEE president Andrew House.
:lol :lol :lol Europe :lol
One of the major points from the interview is that Hirai acknowledged that there are plans for multiple versions of the hardware, including Wi-Fi only versions and 3G + Wi-Fi versions. Such hardware developments will be made on a region-by-region basis, he said.
:lol Europe :lol
Hey, could be worse. Could have been an SCEA rep. :P
SCEA President/CEO Jack Tretton: A WiFi-only version? "We haven't made any determination on models yet," which is infinitely more vague than the confirmation of non-3G SKUs from SCEE president Andrew House.
:lol :lol :lol Europe :lol
from KazQuoteOne of the major points from the interview is that Hirai acknowledged that there are plans for multiple versions of the hardware, including Wi-Fi only versions and 3G + Wi-Fi versions. Such hardware developments will be made on a region-by-region basis, he said.
good god release something lets me rip and transfer my umds to psp2 for fucks sake.Square will be forced to release their shit on PSN now.
i don't want to rebuy my favorite psp games on psn. fuck. even games like KH: BBS aren't on psn. I DEMAND TACTICS OGRE: LUCT TO BE RELEASED ON PSN.
why the hard-on for 3G, ch1n
SCEA President/CEO Jack Tretton: A WiFi-only version? "We haven't made any determination on models yet," which is infinitely more vague than the confirmation of non-3G SKUs from SCEE president Andrew House.
:lol :lol :lol Europe :lol
Jack Tretton, hunh? That's this guy, right?QuoteIf you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it.QuoteI think the PS3 is the Surf 'n Turf, the PS2 is your favorite burger restaurant... [Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops. And the [Xbox 360] I get sick from once in a while because the cook isn't always reliable.QuoteIf you look at the adoption rate of the DS over the first 17 months, not only does it trail the PSP but it also trails their other platforms ... They're potentially losing some of their core audience and they're not really expanding beyond that.spoiler (click to show/hide):drake[close]
playing PSP games on a machine that actually had 2 analog sticks would make me hurl the damn thing out the window
why the hard-on for 3G, ch1n
Because I think it's essential for either all of them to have it or none for a cohesive user experience. With the iPad it wasn't such a big deal because they didn't sell the interactive community shit as such an integral part of the experience.
And honestly I think Japan is likely to be 3G only because it's such a compact nation and therefore everyone has good coverage all the time. US is notoriously spotty, and although it's still likely to be 3G-only there (and it should be), community features are a hard sell to somebody who lives in a town of 2,000 in Nevada or something. Europe is more dense so I think it may be 3G only as well.
:lol Europe :lol
Hey, could be worse. Could have been an SCEA rep. :P
SCEA President/CEO Jack Tretton: A WiFi-only version? "We haven't made any determination on models yet," which is infinitely more vague than the confirmation of non-3G SKUs from SCEE president Andrew House.
:lol :lol :lol Europe :lol
from KazQuoteOne of the major points from the interview is that Hirai acknowledged that there are plans for multiple versions of the hardware, including Wi-Fi only versions and 3G + Wi-Fi versions. Such hardware developments will be made on a region-by-region basis, he said.
We'll see. Japan WILL only be 3G. Real talk.
if i have to pay some sort of bullshit monthly 3G data fee because a bunch of people want to virtually hold hands and text chat and compare stupid fucking NGP trophies, this thing can go fuck itself
ok, sorry, I did some double-checking with my buddy and no, the Tegra 2 stuff that is coming this year is not going to be NGP level. But very soon after, he thinks we'll be seeing stuff on that level in phones, and probably before that in tablets.
Of course, all this hardware pipeline stuff could change, including Sony's. A shedload of manufacturers will be competing for a limited supply of chips from the same vendor, so it wouldn't be surprising if a lot of them scale back or switch elsewhere. If Apple also gets in the mix with iPad 2 etc, there could be real bottlenecks.
And it's key to remember that phones won't get the same love from developers, no matter what, since no single Android phone or tablet is going to have the penetration to really make it worth optimizing a game for. So I have no doubt that games on NGP will look better than anything on phones or tablets for a solid couple of years. It's a crazy piece of kit, even if final specs end up being cut by 10% or whatever. But it is NOT a PS3 in a box - PS3 has like 4x the geometry/pixel performance of NGP from what we can see. The PS3 comparison is just easy shorthand by games journalists - since NGP doesn't have CELL, it's much closer to a 360 (multi-core CPU and multi-core GPU) so ports from 360 are probably a lot easier than ports from PS3.
Not that i care about small screen graphics,PSP looks great to me but those things will help greatly in building bigger,dynamic,interactive worlds that are packed with tons of AI characters
QuoteNot that i care about small screen graphics,PSP looks great to me but those things will help greatly in building bigger,dynamic,interactive worlds that are packed with tons of AI characters
Sounds like it'll cost a lot of $$$ to make. Would someone PLEASE think if the helpless developers. /ninthing
You know quirky, indy games that appear all the time on Nintendo consoles will be pushed into the background if everything is about big budget titles.
Games like Limbo, PB Winterbottom, Super Meat Boy, Trash Panic, Flower, Braid, Lara Croft Guardian of Light, Deathspank, Trials HD would have never seen the day of light if not for Nintendo's foresight to limit the power of hardware. They would have simply never get released if their host platforms were too powerfull.
:bow Nintendo letting small teams flourish :bow2
:piss Sony and MS killing smaller games :piss2
3D screen drains a lot,according to Nintendo
Small capacity battery
Two screens
why the hard-on for 3G, ch1n
Because I think it's essential for either all of them to have it or none for a cohesive user experience
why the hard-on for 3G, ch1n
Because I think it's essential for either all of them to have it or none for a cohesive user experience
Why would some having 3G have an adverse effect? 3G users can play on the go with wifi users, just they'll be able to do it whenever they want.
Why would some having 3G have an adverse effect? 3G users can play on the go with wifi users, just they'll be able to do it whenever they want.
3G is the most important part of of their location based entertainment strategy (something they're making a deal about), even if every NGP comes equipped with a GPS, without a data connection "Near" is rendered useless.
There was no announcement for any kind of HDMI support from the handheld at the press event, and SCEE confirmed to us this morning that "NGP does not have a video output feature".
"New hardware is like new pussy, It's exciting at first but after you've experienced enough fresh vagina over the years -- while there's still always a bit of excitement when something new comes along -- you learn that sooner than later, the new and exciting becomes the standard and dependable and so it's best to just stay focused and [grateful] on what you've got at the moment and if you need to make a change, it'll just happen organically."
Fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. PSP-2000 and up had video out. Why doesn't NGP? NGP is more suited to video out than PSP is. ???
It's actually less suited to it.....
Fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. PSP-2000 and up had video out. Why doesn't NGP? NGP is more suited to video out than PSP is. ???
they didn't say it doesn't they just say it didn't have a dedicated one, so theoretically they could do one with the usb-mini (I think?) out port into like HDMI or w/e.
Sony's upcoming next generation portable system, codenamed NGP, does not have a UMD drive. So what happens to the PSP's backlog, which is still largely UMD-only? Gigazine quizzed Sony Computer Entertainment on the issue.
Sony first reiterated that it's currently working with third parties to release past UMD titles on the PlayStation Store. This, it should be noted, is actually something that's been going on since the PSP go's release. If you view our release calendar, particularly the recent releases category, you'll see downloadable versions of old PSP games pop up every now and then, usually without prior announcement.
Joining the downloadable re-releases, Sony told Gigazine that it has plans to release PSP games on NGP's new card-based format. This is something that was not mentioned at last week's press conference. Sony's statement did not elaborate.
Even with all the rerelease plans, Sony noted that due to rights issues, it's possible that some games will end up not being playable on NGP at all.
Umd owners can just keep their psp if they really want to play those games.
QuoteThere was no announcement for any kind of HDMI support from the handheld at the press event, and SCEE confirmed to us this morning that "NGP does not have a video output feature".
<nintendo fan hat> LOL, no video out - another mistake for Sony. they haven't got a clue!</NFH>
<NFH+alt dimension where there IS video out>LOL, why would you buy an NPG to play games on TV?! Just get a PS3! They haven't got a clue!</NFH>
Although Sony has yet to reveal the price on the thing, I still stand by that a bare boned unit will come out at $299 and a premium pack for $349. The downside for the NGP is that its manufacturer is Sony, a company who has fucked up the most in recent times. As great as the NGP sounds, I remain skeptical overall for that very reason.
Sort of tough words considering that Sony lead the console space, with a wide margin, for two generations. The PS3 was the fuck up, but it is what it is, and even there, Sony has done a pretty serious turn-around since they got a product out there that could actually be sold.
At the right price and with the right attitude towards marketing and the market itself, which Sony has obviously been plenty capable of pulling off, there is no real reason to predict doom and gloom. Hell, look at Nintendo itself, a company that went from the Lulcube to absolute dominance.
Anyway, I'm not big on handhelds, but between the two, this thing sure as hell hits closer to home. Dual sticks. :rock
Oh yeah, and a friend just told me that the new PSP is just like a PS3. Win.
edit: I thought it was a joke, but I should have known better. Some dudes are actually "concerned" that the power will be limiting.
Well PSP2 graphics are better then Wii?
8)
Well PSP2 graphics are better then Wii?
8)
For sure, but they are still running at a SD resolution which will look horrible when blown up on a HDTV, no matter what.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqD8zJJCZ0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
i want a good handheld fps, seeing as there hasn't been one since...ever?
The whole "X series [working title]" and the footage is just from a previous game in the series is lolz.
I wonder who will do Killzone PSP2. If it's an FPS I can't see Guerrilla spending time on it over a PS3 one.
Well PSP2 graphics are better then Wii?
8)
For sure, but they are still running at a SD resolution which will look horrible when blown up on a HDTV, no matter what.
Don't some PS3/X360 games run at the same resolution as PSP2? Games like MGS4, Call of Duty, etc...?
Seems like it would still look ok like those games do.
The whole "X series [working title]" and the footage is just from a previous game in the series is lolz.
I wonder who will do Killzone PSP2. If it's an FPS I can't see Guerrilla spending time on it over a PS3 one.
Don't know, but Sony Bend (Syphon Filter games, Resistance Retribution) are on Uncharted and Nihilistic (Starcraft Ghost, uh, I mean Playstation Move Heroes, Conan PS3/360, that EA Marvel fighting game from last gen) are on Resistance.
and there are some weird things in the video, like Killzone showing an "R1" prompt or the pool game showing "R2/L2" considering the controller only has two shoulder buttons and every PSP game has only said R/L, it's weird.
The whole "X series [working title]" and the footage is just from a previous game in the series is lolz.
I wonder who will do Killzone PSP2. If it's an FPS I can't see Guerrilla spending time on it over a PS3 one.
Don't know, but Sony Bend (Syphon Filter games, Resistance Retribution) are on Uncharted and Nihilistic (Starcraft Ghost, uh, I mean Playstation Move Heroes, Conan PS3/360, that EA Marvel fighting game from last gen) are on Resistance.
and there are some weird things in the video, like Killzone showing an "R1" prompt or the pool game showing "R2/L2" considering the controller only has two shoulder buttons and every PSP game has only said R/L, it's weird.
It seemed obvious to me from the second I saw the trailer reel that all they did for the reel was take a clip of a PS3 game and put [X game WORKING TITLE] and sell it as a psp2 game. Outside of the actual REAL titles in there like Uncharted, Gravity Daze, Rolling Ball thingy. And for Killzone I think they took PS3 game footage and then made a 3 second clip of touchpad laser to throw in the middle.
i'd love one, too bad bethesda doesn't seem to give a shit about handhelds
Overall, the trailer was a nice preview of the system's power. My only question, as usual with Sony hype videos, is if it's real?
If the price is as attractive as they say from a consumer's viewpoint, E3 would be an excellent time to announce the price. If it's not announced by then, then brace yourself for a shocker, or an inconvenient price at the very least.
I dont see the appeal of a game like Fallout or Elder Scrolls on a handheld like this. How long a commute do you have?
All these questions about WHY we would want this thing assume that we're capable of being rational around shiny shiny new tech.
All these questions about WHY we would want this thing assume that we're capable of being rational around shiny shiny new tech.
this
i refuse to calibrate my expectations to assuage the limited lifestyles of filthy poors
Sony staff demoed a handful of upcoming first-party NGP titles, including Uncharted, Little Deviants and WipEout. The source said the latter was "the WipEout HD PS3 engine running on PS3 with no changes to the art platform. That means full resolution, full 60 frames per second. It looks exactly the same as it does on PS3 – all the shader effects are in there".
With Sony urging developers to create releases that work across PS3 and NGP, the implications of this are significant. "They want us to do cross-platform," said the source, explaining that the submission process has been streamlined, with only a single submission required for a title on PSN and NGP.
"Sony has made it completely developer-centric this time," the source added. "[The development kit] is really simple to plug in and use. It opens direct in Windows Explorer and you can see all systems on a network – so you could, for example, update the firmware of multiple NGPs at once.
"A PS3 dev station can take three hours to set-up. This looks like it will take under 20 mins. It just makes everything easier – they've really thought about it this time".
Elsewhere with the hardware, it was confirmed that NGP features three gyroscopes, compared with one in PS3's controller, allowing for more accurate movement. And the front and rear touch panels are both capable of six-point multi-touch.
And developers were told: "All games at launch available on flash [the physical storage medium] would also be on PSN."
Sony has not yet dated the system beyond plans to begin rollout worldwide by the end of 2011. But during yesterday's presentation, Sony listed the Wi-Fi only edition of NGP as "2011", while the Wi-Fi plus 3G version was listed as "Holiday Season 2011", implying that the 3G-enabled console would not be available day one.
SCEE did not share any solid information on date or price, only adding that details would be revealed "very soon".
Sony has made it completely developer-centric this time
QuoteSony has made it completely developer-centric this time
Something is not right here...
Prole is a wealthy socialite. He'll buy the NGP and 3DS, then toss both into the garbage after a few weeks. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW HE ROLLS.
QuoteSony has made it completely developer-centric this time
Something is not right here...
PS1 was pretty good,not like they could make anything better here
hopefully they don't turn it into portable PS3,like "every PS3 game playable on ngp"
name totally sucks
However, Sony is also insisting that it "does not want exactly the same game" on NGP and PS3 – there "has to be a reason for the NGP title". "They want at least some kind of interactivity between the two versions with NGP-only extras," the source added.
Sony's PlayStation Portable enjoys wide adoption in Japan, and the country's core gamers seem overwhelmingly excited to trade up for a Next Generation Portable when the touch pad-equipped new hardware launches.
Japanese game magazine Famitsu polled its readers, and according to the results (translated by consumer weblog Kotaku) 76.2 percent of them said they want the NGP. Only 7.9 percent replied that they don't want the device, and 15.9 percent remain as yet undecided.
Although the Famitsu report seems to suggest that some gamers would like more details on the hardware, the graphical fidelity and twin analog sticks seem to be major selling points for the audience in Japan.
Interestingly, though, 23 percent of the respondents said they don't like the device's looks. 50 percent like it, while 22.6 are big fans of its aesthetics.
Just 3.9 percent of respondents had a strong negative reaction to the device's appearance. Although images of the NGP released so far show it in black, gamers said they would most like a white handheld.
Famitsu also asked its audience what they believe the device will cost; 42.5 percent of them expect it will cost less than A¥30,000 ($363), while 17 percent believe it will cost less than A¥25,000 ($303). Only about 5 percent of the audience picked out price points lower than that.
Notably, the strong yen means that the currency conversions wouldn't be indicative of U.S. pricing, if the Japanese gamers turn out to be right.
At an investor Q&A earlier today, Ubisoft CEO, Yves Guillemot outlined the company’s portable games strategy for investors, where he revealed that Ubisoft’s primary focus will be to develop strong brands on high-end consoles, but that they want to be able to extend those franchises to portable machines.
"Our goal is to go with very strong brands on high-end machines, but in going to portable machines, to be able to port those games to all platforms that are available," Guillemot said to investors, revealing that PSP game, Assassin’s Creed: Bloodlines, has sold 500,000 units to date since its release two years ago, including PSP bundle sales.
Additionally, once Ubisoft make games for the Nintendo 3DS and NGP, they’d like to be able to further port those to other portable platforms at lower prices, Guillemot revealed.
“We are working to make sure that the games we create for portable machines can be adapted for those platforms, so that after making good revenue on 3DS or PSP2, we can go to a second phase, which is going at a lower price to other machines,” Guillemot said to investors.
Tegra 3 officially announced; in tablets by August 2011, smartphones by the end of 2011
Kal-El:
World's first mobile quad-core CPU
New 12-core NVIDIA GPU, with support for 3D stereo
Extreme HD – 2560 x 1600
5x Tegra 2
QuoteTegra 3 officially announced; in tablets by August 2011, smartphones by the end of 2011
.....
Extreme HD – 2560 x 1600
It really shouldn't be a surprise that a bunch of engineer nerds are naming their chips after comic book characters, I guess. Clearly they're Marvel fans.
It really shouldn't be a surprise that a bunch of engineer nerds are naming their chips after comic book characters, I guess. Clearly they're Marvel fans.
As the portable gaming market quickly becomes fragmented by all sorts of new devices, Sony’s strategy seems to be: Throw one of everything at the wall and see what sticks.
1994 was a confusing time. In the midst of all the turbulence of competing standards and marginally different models, one company released a single elegant piece of hardware. PlayStation had one function: Play games on CD. There was one model. Its simple, clear vision cut through all the confusion. It was the standard bearer for a new era of videogames.
Kohler clearly has no idea how an ecosystem functions.
Wired has another opinion article,Sony is now on the line
Sony’s Portable Game Strategy Lacks Vision
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/02/sony-playstation-tablet-xperia/ (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/02/sony-playstation-tablet-xperia/)
i like thisQuoteAs the portable gaming market quickly becomes fragmented by all sorts of new devices, Sony’s strategy seems to be: Throw one of everything at the wall and see what sticks.Quote1994 was a confusing time. In the midst of all the turbulence of competing standards and marginally different models, one company released a single elegant piece of hardware. PlayStation had one function: Play games on CD. There was one model. Its simple, clear vision cut through all the confusion. It was the standard bearer for a new era of videogames.
And then there was Sega, which didn’t even need all that competition because it was so great at competing with itself.
EDIT2: Uh, that link to kohler beign down on the 3ds actually has kohler praising the 3ds.
Kohler advertises Nintends flaws too.
EDIT: Lol i posted the same link.
EDIT2: Uh, that link to kohler beign down on the 3ds actually has kohler praising the 3ds.
I like the vision that involves pushing a shitload of features and power into a device./me likes this.
Game Cards...2-4GB,contain writable memory(5-10%) for save data,patches,etc
Removable memory cards...large capacity,safe to say much larger than 4GB
Single submission for retail and download stuff
Both are obviously proprietary
CPU,GPU stuff
4 cpu cores,PowerVR GPU...known stuff
Dedicated hardware for media playback
Supports MSAA
One core hijacked by OS :yuck
Main memory capacity is closer to PS3 than PSP...PS3 main memory is 256MB
Lots of VRAM compared to PSP...some of that used only for buffers,not textures or models
Textures and Vertex data can live in main memory
Big AAA games
Can reuse lots of PS3/Xbox assets
Simplify models,shaders,textures
One core hijacked by OS
I wonder how much cash they saved by having a 9th grader do those slides for them.
I wonder how much cash they saved by having a 9th grader do those slides for them.
First thing I thought too. Wtf at that English.
The amount of gimmicks crammed here is unbelievable.
- No price cut announced at E3 yet. ( doesn t mean there won't be one this year ).
- 2 PS3 exclusive won't be presented at E3 but will be available before the end of the year in Europe.
- NGP plateform will have a long presentation with 7 first party titles. Price and date revealed.
- Warhawk sequel revealed before E3.
-Twisted metal, R3, Uncharted 3 et TLG will be playable.
- Polyphony is back...
I will try to be more precise next friday as we ll probably have the full schedule and planning. As for Polyphony, you can expect something cool.
Talking bout Kojima now I have a nice info concerning his " devil " project which has been found on the forum some times ago. And Metal Gear series is not dead.
His NGP project is not a game which has already been released before. Or not in the state he wanted it to be.
Last clue : Kojima made a survey concerning one of his big PSP project for another plateform release. ( Peace Walker )
PS : Mr XXX don't worry, Polyphony 's game will be out before March 2012, it s not a joke.
I don't have any clues about thirs party titles.
Oh yes, I forgot. You should know that there is a big battle concerning a third party dev title....you can guess the name of the devs , it s the first word you say on the phone when you speak ( Allo in french = Halo ). referring to Bungie.
Sony has an incredible set of titles in work.
I know at least 37 titles being in work for Sony plateforms.
The European event will be the main event of the titles which won't attend E3.
Polyphony would like to make Europe first as a privillege for its next title. Please don't underestimate their work even if they deceived some of you.
- Wipeout engine perfectly ported over NGP...and Yes it will be out on the first semester following NGP's release.
NGP official name will be revealed at E3 and EU event. internally we use NGP logos....I saw lots of NGP logos...But no idea if it s the official name.
We are making sure the price will be affordable for everybody. I saw price estimations which were reasonable. I cannot bemore precise than ubisoft studies on the matter.
-E3 will reveal titles which will be available till Christmas 2012. Santa Monica will be on board. But don't expect much more infos about the title.
- You haven't asked me but a lot of people are asking questions about Rockstar's title ( Codenamed : Agent ). We 'd like to spill more about it and show something but the conference will be full of first party titles already.
Another Big Rockstar project could even be released before it. Agent is embarassing a lot of people here.
I repeat, at the end of next week we will tell more. And better beginning of May we will see all the trailers and project you will see at E3. Media & press journalist will be able to attend a Pre E3 event so they can see 4 to 6 playable games at the show.
We' ve been shown U3 demo quickly in a little clip internally. And it was super cool. The playable scene was as surprising as the U2 sequence presented feaw years ago at E3. it's really stylish. Some people will say it s like U2.5 but I loved it.
This user in the past, leaked info E3 2009.
Polyphony 's game will be out before March 2012, it s not a joke.:rofl
Polyphony would like to make Europe first as a privillege for its next title. Please don't underestimate their work even if they deceived some of you..
NGP official name will be revealed at E3 and EU event. internally we use NGP logos....I saw lots of NGP logos...But no idea if it s the official name.
That post seems to include both PS3 and NGP rumors though, did it specifically say that the Polyphony thing is for NGP?
So why do people call it NGP?Sony calls it like that...for now
So why do people call it NGP?
I love that "don't underestimate them" bit. Let's see, their last two projects were a PS3 game they worked on for 5 years to a mediocre and unfinished result, and a PSP game they worked on for 5 years to a mediocre and unfinished result. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THESE GUYS! NEXT TIME FOR SURE!
http://www.jolt.co.uk/news/33379/ngp-camera-features-detailed/QuoteIn Uncharted, when a light source is required, pointing the outside camera at a nearby light or the sun will provide the necessary illumination.
That sounds terrible.
QuoteWhat is terrible is the fact that Uncharted on NGP exists.
Indeed, leave pointless ports and half baked rehashes on the 3DS.
Give us something completely new.
Slated to arrive with the handset in the third quarter of this financial year are Uncharted, ModNation Racers, Wipeout 2048 and a title called Smart As. The source also confirmed that there will be Resistance title out for the NGP some time between January and March of 2012.
New Wipeout = 3DS ethered.
where the hell is minna no golf in that list
where the hell is minna no golf in that list
QuoteWhat is terrible is the fact that Uncharted on NGP exists.
Indeed, leave pointless ports and half baked rehashes on the 3DS.
Give us something completely new.
http://www.jolt.co.uk/news/33378/ngp-launch-titles-appear-on-the-radar/QuoteSlated to arrive with the handset in the third quarter of this financial year are Uncharted, ModNation Racers, Wipeout 2048 and a title called Smart As. The source also confirmed that there will be Resistance title out for the NGP some time between January and March of 2012.
Wow Wipeout, Modnation, Uncharted and Resistance. What a compelling lineup of original material.
New Wipeout = 3DS ethered.
until mario kart comes out and no one remembers wtf a wipeout is!
New Wipeout = 3DS ethered.
until mario kart comes out and no one remembers wtf a wipeout is!
Only in your wet dreams
Crash team racing >>>>> mario kart 64, whoever did that game should make another one.
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this is just sony proactively patenting shit JUST IN CASE
Of course it is. Companies patent the shittiest concepts just to cover their asses. That's why digging them up is one of the top 5 most mind numbing activities I can think of.You made me remember the fucking vitality sensor. They've so found a use for it with WiiHD haven't they?
That "double kicking dude w/ 4 moves strapped on" and "Wii saddle" never came to be now did they?
I mean up until now, they didn't.
oh god I hope not :'(
Rumor: NGP Specs Dowgraded, 2011 Release in Japan
The NGP will release this year in Japan and next year in the rest of the world according to 01.net, a French site tech with a history of reliably reporting leaked Sony information. That same site leaked accurate specs of the NGP weeks before the devices unveiling in January.
According to 01.net's information, non-3G models of the NGP will be priced competitively with the 3DS. Meaning we can expect that the low-end model will cost around $250-$300. In order to reach that price window some sacrifices had to be made. While earlier reports pegged the new handheld as sporting 512MB of RAM, the newest information suggests that Sony has cut that number in half to 256MB. In order to compensate for the loss, the company reduced the size of the OS footprint in memory. 26MB of the 256 is high-speed RAM that can be used for certain tasks that require quicker access to system memory. The 128MB of graphics memory are still in place; however the planned 16MB of internal flash memory have been removed in favor of cheaper external storage.
While none of this information has been confirmed by Sony, 01.net's track record with Sony information lends credence to their claims. One way or another, we'll find out at E3.
it's STILL going to curl one of into the 3DS's mouth
Ridge later levels are hilarious - single digit frame rates bu bu 3D mang... WAIT U PLAYIN 3D ?! U DOIN 3DS WRONG!
All hail the NGP , our lord and master.
Huh. Guess Sony decided it wasn't worth pursuing bleeding edge tech after what happened with the PS3 afterall.
With that new report that came out today from Sony, it would be absolutely hilarious if PS4 was about as powerful as Cafe.
Sony and Microsoft need to deliberately sabotage their next console, Nintendo Wii-style, to end up weaker than the Wii2.
Huh. Guess Sony decided it wasn't worth pursuing bleeding edge tech after what happened with the PS3 afterall.
With that new report that came out today from Sony, it would be absolutely hilarious if PS4 was about as powerful as Cafe.
Only reasons why sony downgraded the ngp is because of battery life imo.
Huh. Guess Sony decided it wasn't worth pursuing bleeding edge tech after what happened with the PS3 afterall.
With that new report that came out today from Sony, it would be absolutely hilarious if PS4 was about as powerful as Cafe.
Having 512MB RAM wasn't bleeding edge to begin with in the portable space, and simply gimping it -- out of all components -- does not indicate a change of philosophy :lol
I swear you ninthings are out of touch parrots lol.
Cutting RAM really is a shame, it's always what devs bitch about. Hell, the 360's superior RAM more or less kept it in the running for all this time. I dunno why they always skimp out on it...
On the other hand, jailbroken devices can always download more RAM, so I'm looking forward to that.
isn't it amazing how everyone skimps on RAM though? The one commodity product we know will get cheaper and cheaper and that every developer values like diamond dust?
But today we received some new, and exclusive, information from an anonymous source.
The official name of the NGP!
Rumor has it that the new Sony handheld will bear the name PS Vita. Vita is Latin/Italian for ‘life’.
Does Sony hope to bring life back into their stock? Do they want to rejuvenate the PSP? Revitalize your needs for portable gaming?
Our source tells us that this will be the definite and final name of the new system Sony will bring out at the end of 2011.
I LOVE THE BIG SCREEEEEEEEN
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN
SO FRESH AND SO CLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN
MAKES ME WANNA SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM
PSP PSP PSP PSP
I LOVE THE BIG SCREEEEEEEEN
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN
SO FRESH AND SO CLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN
MAKES ME WANNA SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM
PSP PSP PSP PSP
so, an iPad then
wrong
somebody hacked your data methodis
A trusted source has told RipTen that the previously titled Playstation NGP is now in fact called the Playstation Vita, and everyones favorite Sony adventurer will be making a splash on the next generation handheld.
Whilst the details are relatively shallow right now, the source inside Sony has confirmed that the Vita and Golden Abyss are in fact real names and will be announced soon, possibly at or prior to E3 2011.
http://vita.scedev.net/
Name's absoultely horrible. They try to outhip Apple and fail on their face, FLAT.
i'm pretty sure i saw a video like "PSP2 INTERFACE REVEALED" but i didn't open it because i tought it was a fake/didn't care enough...
did a leak of some sort happened?
ah yes here is it
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hvB2316nQ4E[/youtube]
I spy with my little eye...
http://us.playstation.com/e3-2011/
'View Source'
'Ctrl-f: Vita'
<li> <a href="/ps3/index.htm">PS Vita<span class="reg">®</span></a>
<ul>
<li><a href="/psvita/features/index.htm">Features</a></li>
<li><a href="/psvita/games-and-media/index.htm">Games & Media</a></li>
So no PLAYSTATION(TM) 4 :lol?
I like it. I mean, it could be worse. Sony has been on a roll with inventive names gen like Go, Eye, Home, Move, etc.
Vita might be a bit vague for the average person. You know, the ones that think "Wii, like we!" or "Kinect, like Connect and Kinetic!" It sounds like a digital falafel.
So it's confirmed now.
smh
Not like console names matter anymore (Wii) but it is interesting how disastrous the PSP was for Sony that they dropped the naming convention.
So no PLAYSTATION(TM) 4 :lol?
PSP ---> PSV
:lol :lol :lol at xbots spinning the name being bad
maybe because zune was a great product?
What was the biggest criticism that faced the PSP
off-hand, that it wasn't the DS
maybe because zune was a great product?
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maybe because zune was a great product?
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??? Zune HD was considered an excellent alternative to ipod touches.
That wasn't it.
software. games
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TripleA is off his game if he's fishing for PSP/PSP2 hatred on the 'bore.
BS, it was the price of the psp that put off people after it sold to the Sony faithfuls. The only difference is that Nintnedo has less faithfuls.
I disagree with that. Nintendo's faithfuls are big enough in number and dedicated enough that they've been able to weather any storm... Sony on the other hand takes an awful pounding when they don't attract people outside their usual. I want to accent my point with an appropriate emoticon but I can't find one so
:himu
TripleA is off his game if he's fishing for PSP/PSP2 hatred on the 'bore.The word for the above comment is "delusional".
That's it.
Okay, now connect that to your point.
What was the biggest criticism that faced the PSP
software, games
If Sony have learned, then don't even expect the PSP2 to be called PSP2. Don't expect it to be directly affiliated with the PlayStation brand.
TripleA is off his game if he's fishing for PSP/PSP2 hatred on the 'bore.The word for the above comment is "delusional".
So because someone thinks the PSP and Playstation has a bad name and it's a good idea to differentiate their latest handheld from it's formers namesake, it means they don't like the PSP themselves? This is the sort of illogical fanboy trash which leads to no-one respecting you TripleA.
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh wipeout :tauntaun
edit: so your point then, is something apparent to everyone. thanks for the research captain fucktard.
eh sorry that was harsh. you're at least a brigadier-general fucktard.
QuoteSo because someone thinks the PSP and Playstation has a bad name and it's a good idea to differentiate their latest handheld from it's formers namesake, it means they don't like the PSP themselves? This is the sort of illogical fanboy trash which leads to no-one respecting you TripleA
yup, i'm pretty sure my love for the PSP is well documented.QuoteQuotesoftware. gamesThat's it.
i doubt that was the reason though - also, what is it at now? 50m units world wide? It's a very weird brand of "failure". Anyone who can look at the PSP library and go "no games" probably can only do so because some other hater is ringing a bell behind the stack of quality titles so their Stevie Wondered asses can pretend they just don't see it.
"Very super suspicious... looks like epic troll"
QuoteSince the biggest criticism with the PSP was the lack of original and compelling software, Sony would be wise to avoid naming the next handheld PlayStation "PSP2". Because as soon as you see "PSP2" on the next handheld PlayStation that looks very similar to the first handheld PlayStation, you have a big problem
i confused... who DIDN'T think this in this thread?!?
Don't be mad.
Ehn, I'm not any more mad than usual. Less so, actually, since I just saw gorgeous Wipeout screens.
I look forward to your stunning observations in the future, hope you stick around this time.
all i see is someone congratulating Sony for naming their machine after Dutch soccer power house (maybe not so much without Guss H at the helm) PSV ... ?!?
QuoteSince the biggest criticism with the PSP was the lack of original and compelling software, Sony would be wise to avoid naming the next handheld PlayStation "PSP2". Because as soon as you see "PSP2" on the next handheld PlayStation that looks very similar to the first handheld PlayStation, you have a big problem
i confused... who DIDN'T think this in this thread?!?
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35492.msg1321945#msg1321945 (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35492.msg1321945#msg1321945)
Is there anything else you need my love
all i see is someone congratulating Sony for naming their machine after Dutch soccer power house (maybe not so much without Guss H at the helm) PSV ... ?!?
QuoteI hate myself so much I bought a PSPGO.
same here, bro... same here....
By far the most exciting was Uncharted: Golden Abyss, a new episode in the Uncharted franchise, which takes place chronologically before Drake's Fortune (although Sony emphasised it isn't a prequel). Graphically, it lost little in comparison with the familiar PS3 Uncharted games, employing the same third-person viewpoint and richly detailed environments, as well as some great lighting effects.
WipEout 2048 looked similarly impressive: the huge screen's sheer number of pixels and sharp contrasts create the illusion of greater crispness than you would get from a TV. WipEout 2048 felt a bit more forgiving than its famously tough predecessors, and let you choose between three control systems, one of which used the tilt sensor for turning (the sensitivity of which was spot-on) and the rear touch pad to accelerate.
Little Deviants is a collection of 30-plus mini-games clearly designed to give each one of the NGP's features a thorough work-out. It included a variation on Whack-A-Mole in which you had to touch the front or back of the unit according to which direction Deviants revealed behind doors were facing, and a robot-shooting game which used the gyro-sensor for aiming, much like the 3DS's Face Raiders.
Sound Shapes is an intriguing 2D platformer which has music built into its gameplay: as you traverse levels, you collect objects that build up a soundtrack with, for example, pulsing lasers providing the beat. It also incorporates a LittleBigPlanet-style level editor which should prove popular. Reality Fighters, meanwhile, is an augmented reality beat-'em-up game, which lets you scan your face onto a fighter, then use your surroundings as a fight arena. Sony's in-house launch lineup is completed by a clutch of games familiar from the PlayStation Network, including Super Stardust Delta, Everybody's Golf and Hustle Kings.
We approached the NGP with scepticism – the once-exciting PSP seemed to become increasingly irrelevant with each iteration, culminating in the unmitigated disaster that was the PSPgo. But this new model restored our faith in Sony's ability to make handheld consoles.
It is sensibly designed – Yoshida admitted that with the PSPgo: "We made it our highest priority to make the unit small and portable, but that wasn't what people really wanted." And its peripheral bells and whistles – the cameras, motion sensors and touch-sensitive screen and rear pad – give developers just the ammunition they crave in their collective quest to unearth new forms of gaming.
Yoshida admitted that the PSP suffered when Sony launched the PS3, claiming most of its development resources, but was adamant that: "Going forward, we do not want to make the same mistake".
"There's no one clear competitor in terms of what NGP offers," Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony Computer Entertainment worldwide studios, told Eurogamer in an interview.
"NGP's going to establish itself as the unique thing that people want to have. NGP cannot be placed against smartphones. You can't make phone calls on it and it's too big to fit into your pocket."
NGP, rumoured to be officially called the PS Vita, features dual analog sticks and a five inch OLED touchscreen.
Some commentators have suggested it's set to go head-to-head with Nintendo's 3DS when it launches later this year, but Sony doesn't see it that way.
"Compared to 3DS, it was very interesting – when we were designing the NGP we had no idea what Nintendo was going to do," Yoshida revealed.
"Aside from the 3D stereoscopic display, they seem to be keeping the same theme that they had with the DS – it feels like an update of the DS to me.
Uncharted:Golden Abyss :piss
:patel
Sony's NGP will offer full backwards compatibility with the PlayStation Network's library of PSP games, and will offer an optimized experience for each one.
PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.
Sony Bend's Resistance Retribution has been demonstrated working on the NGP, with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view in the third person shooter.
PSP games are run via a software emulator within the NGP, and the upscaling can be toggled on and off by the player.
The PSP backwards compatibility seems to mirror the efforts of the PSP Remaster Series, which allow optimized versions of PSP games to run on the PS3.
PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.
with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view
Uncharted & Wipeout at launch means it's already better than the first year of 3DS software support.
uhhh wipeout is 30 fps
what the fuck
what the fucking fuck
uhhh wipeout is 30 fps
what the fuck
what the fucking fuck
Like the PSP versions?
oh sorry i thought this was a next-generation portable
I'll still buy it, but it's kind of disappointing. Kind of was getting used to 60 fps Wipeout thanks to the PSP running at 333 and the HD version.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-02-ngps-backwards-compatibility-unveiledQuoteSony's NGP will offer full backwards compatibility with the PlayStation Network's library of PSP games, and will offer an optimized experience for each one.
PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.
Sony Bend's Resistance Retribution has been demonstrated working on the NGP, with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view in the third person shooter.
PSP games are run via a software emulator within the NGP, and the upscaling can be toggled on and off by the player.
The PSP backwards compatibility seems to mirror the efforts of the PSP Remaster Series, which allow optimized versions of PSP games to run on the PS3.
Finally confirmed :o
Funny how all this info is going out before E3, now i'm really curious to see what they will have for the event.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-02-ngps-backwards-compatibility-unveiledQuoteSony's NGP will offer full backwards compatibility with the PlayStation Network's library of PSP games, and will offer an optimized experience for each one.
PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.
Sony Bend's Resistance Retribution has been demonstrated working on the NGP, with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view in the third person shooter.
PSP games are run via a software emulator within the NGP, and the upscaling can be toggled on and off by the player.
The PSP backwards compatibility seems to mirror the efforts of the PSP Remaster Series, which allow optimized versions of PSP games to run on the PS3.
Finally confirmed :o
Funny how all this info is going out before E3, now i'm really curious to see what they will have for the event.
I have a boner
I'll still buy it, but it's kind of disappointing. Kind of was getting used to 60 fps Wipeout thanks to the PSP running at 333 and the HD version.
That said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.
So how does backwards compatibility work? What do I do with my stack of UMDs?
Quote from: http://www.gameinformer.com/games/uncharted_golden_abyss/b/ngp/archive/2011/06/02/uncharted-ngp-preview-nathan-drake-s-first-portable-outing-is-just-as-big-as-its-ps3-siblings.aspxThat said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.
unless this guy is completely wrong, tv-out via hdmi would be great.
So how does backwards compatibility work? What do I do with my stack of UMDs?
SOL
:bow PSP digital downloads :bow2
So how does backwards compatibility work? What do I do with my stack of UMDs?
So you are excited about the fact that you could play you ngp games on an hdtv... why? Why not just get a normal console?
Quote from: http://www.gameinformer.com/games/uncharted_golden_abyss/b/ngp/archive/2011/06/02/uncharted-ngp-preview-nathan-drake-s-first-portable-outing-is-just-as-big-as-its-ps3-siblings.aspxThat said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.
unless this guy is completely wrong, tv-out via hdmi would be great.
So you are excited about the fact that you could play you ngp games on an hdtv... why? Why not just get a normal console?
Quote from: http://www.gameinformer.com/games/uncharted_golden_abyss/b/ngp/archive/2011/06/02/uncharted-ngp-preview-nathan-drake-s-first-portable-outing-is-just-as-big-as-its-ps3-siblings.aspxThat said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.
unless this guy is completely wrong, tv-out via hdmi would be great.
What do I do with my stack of UMDs?
because options are nice :cookiem
no offense, but that was a stupid dumb question.
The conclusion to this argument:
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35342.msg1213845#msg1213845 (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35342.msg1213845#msg1213845)
Yeah, but who gives a fuck if they hurt the PS3 at this point? Next generation is coming pretty soon, so if baby can eat momma's near-death body for vitality, I say giver.
Yeah, but you said the PS3. Who cares if they snap the PS3's tiny little neck? Its on-going existence is damaging to the PlayStation brand on the whole. Wouldn't replacing it with a successful hybrid be preferable?
QuoteThe problem lies with Sony; they continue to build their portable gaming platforms as portable console gaming platforms. A lot of stupid people work at Sony.
meanwhile over at planet 3ds... oh look! almost exactly the same! DOA, SF4, Zelda, Winning Eleven, Ridge Racer, etc etc...
not particularly pointed at TripleA but the answer to the "who wants to play console games on a handheld?" question often seen from DS era Nindoids is cleart "Well, -US- it turns out!"
I mean for the PlayStation brand, like you were talking about. Surely a successful product is better for the brand than a tremendously epic failure.
I'm starting to wonder if PSP2/NGP/Vita is priced properly that 3DS might be fucked.
to be fair, the only thing that's gonna spark even a match-sized fire of interest is a fuckton of 99 cent games
i know they're both hoping to ride out one last generation but for the most part $40 portable games are already dead, dead, dead
The PlayStation brand will not grow stronger by terminating the home business.
I'm not talking about terminating the home business. I'm talking about terminating the PS3, or rather, causing injury to it, which is what the post you linked said. They can cannibalize the PS3 to give the Vita a better push, then come in next year or whatever with their next home console, which is going to have to be very un-PS3-like anyway.
Okay, but what I'm saying is, it hurts the PS3, so what?