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Title: Battlefield 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 03, 2011, 06:26:20 PM
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Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 03, 2011, 06:26:48 PM
stupid game for people who can't enjoy real gun games
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 03, 2011, 06:38:16 PM
stupid game for people who can't enjoy real gun games

DIAF
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on February 03, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
Just make a good pc version ffs
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2011, 06:41:44 PM
Will be interesting to see if its any different than the Bad Company series.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on February 03, 2011, 06:45:54 PM
bad company 2 is almost perfect infantry combat, they just need to change up the vehicles a bit if they are going to make it 32+players, maybe add jets again

id love to see some scans
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 03, 2011, 07:04:08 PM
Coming out too quickly, imo.  BC:Vietnam just came out and it was pretty good.  I feel like they should take two years to make something that's epic instead of just another incremental upgrade. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2011, 07:17:33 PM
i'd imagine they've been working on it for quite a while now
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
yeah, if they succumb to the "constantly running and firing your gun every single second" style of play then i'm out

i doubt they will, though (although they might "simplify" like they did with BF1943)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 03, 2011, 07:50:03 PM
It's not hard to predict how this is going to go. Most of the changes will be in terms of accesibility. There are still a lot of console people who don't like massive maps and running around forever. So the changes to the series will be to try to distinguish itself on that front and keep what makes Battlefield different while at the same time making it more accessible. The way something like Squad Spawning made BC 2 more accesible. Decisions like that.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2011, 07:55:33 PM
man, massive maps are what i expect out of a genuine battlefield game

there was nothing like cresting over a hill in BF1942 and seeing the tanks tearing each other up across the horizon, or seeing the cloud of parachutes dropping in the distance

it never felt like running around forever, it just heightened the tension before the clash

if they scale it back too much (on pc, don't care what they do for consoles) they can keep it
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 03, 2011, 08:08:35 PM
That would be awesome if they made a game with so much detail that it would barely run on most PCs, with max settings on.  Just like the good ol' days of the first Battlefield. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on February 03, 2011, 08:29:20 PM
man, massive maps are what i expect out of a genuine battlefield game

there was nothing like cresting over a hill in BF1942 and seeing the tanks tearing each other up across the horizon, or seeing the cloud of parachutes dropping in the distance

it never felt like running around forever, it just heightened the tension before the clash

if they scale it back too much (on pc, don't care what they do for consoles) they can keep it

It never felt like running around forever, because there was all this shit going on around you and running itself was dangerous. Really anything less than 40 players is a waste of time for PC. How hard is it to go back to what worked in 1942?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 03, 2011, 10:02:15 PM
The squad system in Battlefield 2 pretty much solved any problem people had about the lull in action.  At the same time, it strengthen the bond with other players like no other game does.  It was actually fun to play a role in the larger battle with a few other people, and it would be to you and your team's benefit to play that role effectively.  And while you weren't always shooting those evil easterners or killing brave westerners, just completing objectives with your team like taking a flag had a lot of tension, even if was unguarded.

And yeah, I want planes and the ability to play as a dedicated vehicle operation to return.  I used to play BF1942 with a friend from school and he was incredible at flying the plane and would be in the sky 95% of the match.  I was never a great pilot, but I always appreciated it when the tank between me and a base exploded as I look up and see him fly away.

I wonder if they will ever work in Mirror's Edge mechanics too.  I remember hearing stuff about that.  Even if they just got rid of a sprint button and had it all momentum based, that would be great.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 03, 2011, 10:18:12 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield_3/b/pc/default.aspx
only thing important listed there is:
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Online Multiplayer:
Competitive: 64-Player (PC) 24-Player (Console)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 03, 2011, 10:28:58 PM
I want some of the old jank back, let me sit on the wing of a plane plz
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on February 04, 2011, 12:15:15 AM
I used to play BF1942 with a friend from school and he was incredible at flying the plane and would be in the sky 95% of the match.  I was never a great pilot, but I always appreciated it when the tank between me and a base exploded as I look up and see him fly away.

You know, the only non-BF game that I have played that sort of captured that was Warhawk.

Which should have been more popular than it was.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on February 04, 2011, 12:58:23 AM
I used to play BF1942 with a friend from school and he was incredible at flying the plane and would be in the sky 95% of the match.  I was never a great pilot, but I always appreciated it when the tank between me and a base exploded as I look up and see him fly away.

You know, the only non-BF game that I have played that sort of captured that was Warhawk.

Which should have been more popular than it was.

:bow

Thank you, my dear friend. Warhawk was amazing.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 04, 2011, 01:16:10 AM
I bet a lot of folks who gotten into Battlefield via the Bad Company games would assume this is the third one and be really put off to find out the single player doesn't have anything to do with those games. They probably should have kept the BC series on consoles and kept the mainline games on the PC.

Maybe.

But they are a corporation. You don't leave money on the table.

As far as the player count it is what it is I guess.


Homefront is 16 on 16. Frontlines had a max of 50 players on consoles although it was also a pretty laggy game even for dedicated serves. Although that was probably because there weren't a lot of servers due to the low population of the game. And of course there is MAG with its high number count.

.


Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 04, 2011, 01:34:33 AM
You could still plane ride in BF:Heroes.  I've never played it though so I'm not sure about the overall quality of the game.

[youtube=560,345]7x3lF-vyy4o&feature[/youtube]





I used to play BF1942 with a friend from school and he was incredible at flying the plane and would be in the sky 95% of the match.  I was never a great pilot, but I always appreciated it when the tank between me and a base exploded as I look up and see him fly away.

You know, the only non-BF game that I have played that sort of captured that was Warhawk.

Which should have been more popular than it was.

You get paid even for shilling old games?  Hook me up. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on February 04, 2011, 04:41:20 AM
I really, really hope that "DICE sets it's sight on Call of Duty" is just something GameInformer added and isn't the goal by DICE.

of course it is Game Informer who wrote that sentence, how dumb can people be?

Also Frostibe 2 with DX11 will be a beast.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on February 04, 2011, 06:32:24 AM
I really, really hope that "DICE sets it's sight on Call of Duty" is just something GameInformer added and isn't the goal by DICE.

of course it is Game Informer who wrote that sentence, how dumb can people be?


You tell me.

Obviously I know someone at Game Informer wrote that specific line but I have to wonder if there's pressure on DICE to make a Call of Duty clone because EA is so desperate for one of those.


meh I hope not. PC version get.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2011, 06:35:24 AM

[youtube=560,345]xP0Ij1_VTY0[/youtube]

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/02/04/battlefield-3-is-coming-preorder-now.aspx##

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This is it! We are very excited to announce the first details on Battlefield 3 and to kickstart the preorders for the Limited Edition!

Battlefield 3 is the true successor to Battlefield 2. Beyond our signature multiplayer, we have also included a full single-player campaign and a co-op campaign – all straight out of the box. As for fan favorite features, how does the return of jets, prone, and 64-player multiplayer (on PC) sound? All this built with our powerful new game engine Frostbite 2, which you'll hear and see a lot of in the months leading up to launch. For the full reveal on Battlefield 3, stay tuned for links to our cover stories hitting the gaming press throughout February, starting with Game Informer right now.

Battlefield 3 will release this Fall. You can preorder the Battlefield 3 Limited Edition at www.battlefield.com now. The exact contents of the Limited Edition will be revealed around GDC.

 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2011, 06:47:36 AM
http://www.game.co.uk/Games/Xbox-360/Shooter-First-Person/Battlefield-3/~r353698/?s=Battlefield+3

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Battlefield 3 leaps ahead of the competition with the power of Frostbite™ 2, the next instalment of DICE’s cutting-edge game engine. This state-of-the-art technology is the foundation on which Battlefield 3 is built, delivering superior visual quality, a grand sense of scale, massive destruction, dynamic audio and incredibly lifelike character animations. As bullets whiz by, walls crumble, and explosions throw you to the ground, the battlefield feels more alive and interactive than ever before. In Battlefield 3, players step into the role of the elite U.S. Marines where they will experience heart-pounding single player missions and competitive multiplayer actions ranging across diverse locations from around the globe including Paris, Tehran and New York

Battlefield 3 features:

    * Frostbite 2 – Battlefield 3 introduces Frostbite 2, the incredible technology that takes animation, destruction, lighting, scale and audio to new heights. Built upon this powerful game engine, Battlefield 3 immerses players physically and emotionally to the world around them like never before.
    * Feel the Battle —  Feel the impact of bullets and explosions, drag your fallen comrades into safety, and mount your weapon on almost any part of the terrain.  Battlefield 3’s cutting edge animation, spectacular visuals and real as hell battle gameplay attack your senses and make you feel the visceral warriors experience like no other FPS.
    * Unparalleled Vehicle Warfare — The best online vehicle warfare experience gets even better with a fitting sonic boom as fighter jets headline impressive lineup of land, air and sea vehicles.
    * Urban Combat — Take the fight to iconic and unexpected places in the USA, Middle East, and Europe including claustrophobic streets, metropolitan downtowns, and open, vehicle-friendly landscapes as you fight your way through the war of tomorrow.

:hyper
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 04, 2011, 07:49:54 AM
Sounds hot. Completely went over my head that they'd introduce a single player campaign. I'm finding it hard to imagine a huge battlefield map set in new York tho :lol

2011 is PACKED. Most promising gaming year ever? Seems so.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: WrikaWrek on February 04, 2011, 08:19:14 AM

[youtube=560,345]xP0Ij1_VTY0[/youtube]

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/02/04/battlefield-3-is-coming-preorder-now.aspx##

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This is it! We are very excited to announce the first details on Battlefield 3 and to kickstart the preorders for the Limited Edition!

Battlefield 3 is the true successor to Battlefield 2. Beyond our signature multiplayer, we have also included a full single-player campaign and a co-op campaign – all straight out of the box. As for fan favorite features, how does the return of jets, prone, and 64-player multiplayer (on PC) sound? All this built with our powerful new game engine Frostbite 2, which you'll hear and see a lot of in the months leading up to launch. For the full reveal on Battlefield 3, stay tuned for links to our cover stories hitting the gaming press throughout February, starting with Game Informer right now.

Battlefield 3 will release this Fall. You can preorder the Battlefield 3 Limited Edition at www.battlefield.com now. The exact contents of the Limited Edition will be revealed around GDC.


Oh oh, that's a nice teaser.

A mix between Tron Evolution and Terminator going on.

 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2011, 08:26:01 AM
it's cool how even in those few seconds they managed to squeeze in stuff like pulling a teammate out of fire, and that jet eating the helicopter up
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Smooth Groove on February 04, 2011, 09:16:09 AM
I'm excited just to see the new engine.  BC2 had very underrated graphics.  With max settings at DX11, it blew away COD but still managed to run smoothly on moderate systems. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 04, 2011, 09:51:52 AM
The little information that came out is very exciting.  Things like explosions knocking you back makes me think "ok, less focus on grenade/explosives spamming" and dragging teammates to safety, "my medic boner is rising"

this part also has be excited:
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  * Urban Combat — Take the fight to iconic and unexpected places in the USA, Middle East, and Europe including claustrophobic streets, metropolitan downtowns, and open, vehicle-friendly landscapes as you fight your way through the war of tomorrow.

assuming the entire map isn't just inside a city.  Some of my the memorable parts of BF2 were moving through a city with small squad while the rest of the team fighting around the outskirts of providing support from around.

oh, and I wonder how accurate Tehran will be.  If I suddenly start having a shootout inside that bazaar I spent 30 cents at to play Sonic 3, that would be cool.

Has there been any mention of the commander role returning?

also, I was trying to hold onto my gtx275 for another year...yeah, I think I might need to upgrayedd to a 5##.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on February 04, 2011, 10:17:13 AM
You get paid even for shilling old games?  Hook me up. 

Have you tried it? Everything about it is very un-colsoleish, down to server browsing and setting up dedicated servers. I don't know if it's still live, though. Cool game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on February 04, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Oh man, this is really coming out in 2011? Jesus this year is gonna be off the hook.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 04, 2011, 10:48:11 AM
yeah, warhawk is a good game, one of my friends still plays it all the time
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on February 04, 2011, 03:55:16 PM
wasnt warhawk that game you had to control with the motion crap?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: huckleberry on February 04, 2011, 03:59:31 PM
wasnt warhawk that game you had to control with the motion crap?


You don't have to control it that way at all if you don't want to. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on February 04, 2011, 04:18:13 PM
Yeah, you could pick to do it either way. The upside to using the tilt stuff was that you got more precise controls for vehicle guns, since the stick was dedicated to that function in tilt mode.

Anyone know if there is any substance behind the whole Starhawk thing? I keep seeing the term, but I can't figure out if it's just fanboy wish-stuff.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 04, 2011, 04:21:28 PM
Co-sign on Lair being the worst game this generation.  Only thing worse is Wii Music.

While you didn't need to use motion controls in warhawk, I remember them giving you an advantage since you could around the screen while flying.  I never bothered with it.  I think I played it mostly with the easier control scheme where the right stick did all the tricks at the cost of less control and it felt more like Crimson Skies than a sim.

The 'rumor' (as in, the name showed up somewhere and there was no more information) was that Starhawk was the sequel.  That's been going around for years by now.

speaking of crimson skies, why was that completely forgotten? I think the people went on from that to make Dark Avoid, but Microsoft just let it die and I thought it was supposed to be popular back in the Xbox 1 days (along with Mech Assault).  It was really damn fun.  Even an XBLA multi-only game would rock.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 04, 2011, 04:42:56 PM
MS owns the FASA IPs, but Smith & Tinker have license for games for Shadowrun, Mechwarrior, and Crimson Skies and have been sitting on them since 2007.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: naff on February 04, 2011, 07:36:33 PM
Yeah, you could pick to do it either way. The upside to using the tilt stuff was that you got more precise controls for vehicle guns, since the stick was dedicated to that function in tilt mode.

Anyone know if there is any substance behind the whole Starhawk thing? I keep seeing the term, but I can't figure out if it's just fanboy wish-stuff.

Jobe keeps tweeting that they're working on 'a game' for PS3 (http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/01/08/starhawk-readies-for-deployment-with-new-build/). And I think he's hinted it's a WarHawk successor but StarHawk and it's concept is just a fanboy dream atm, but from the sounds of it there should be more news on Lightbox's new game soon.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 07, 2011, 01:00:04 AM
so there's a big nerdwar going on over the fact that dice is debating whether to add controller support with aim assist in the pc version

personally i don't really care, i am gonna use kb&m for infantry because i'm used to it, but i'd like the option to use the controller for vehicles even if they leave aim assist off

it's just in the past year that i've finally managed to wrap my head around flight controls in games (using a controller), so that's what i feel comfortable with now
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 07, 2011, 01:14:20 AM
yeah, it was part of new info from twitter or something

Quote from: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25807602&postcount=903
Some facts gleaned from his tweets (these count as official confirmations):
Prone on consoles as well
No tracer darts
Bullet drop will be more sophisticated than BC2 (different drop rates for each gun)
Knife/Dogtags are in
No grapple hooks or zipwires
The spotting mechanic is still be debated
They are debating supporting game pads on the PC, and letting pad users have aim assists
Essentially confirmed rented servers on PC

Things he's refusing to comment on:
The anti-cheating method (Punkbuster)
Commander mode
Dragging teammates to safety (although, he practically confirmed it)
SDK and LAN on PC
Battle Recorder on PC
Killcams

Even though I won't use a game pad, it should be still be an option.  Unless it requires massive redesigns for it to work on a game pad like Torchlight or Dragon Age, all PC games should support them.  Battlefield 3 is coming to consoles as well, so all the functions can fit onto a gamepad.

I'm hypocritical about this.  At the same time that I want gamepad support for everything, I also want developers to make interfaces better suited to the PC.  Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2 did the second one and both lack any game pad support.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on February 07, 2011, 05:38:23 AM
add game-pad support

if only just so my joystick properly works in the game for helicopters/jets
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 07, 2011, 08:41:50 AM
wtf is this aim assist shit? If nubes wanna use gamepad, fine! Don't give them an extra advantage with fucking aim assist (in mp, don't care 'bout sp) - keep that shit on consoles.

arrow + numpad keys helicopter controls ftw

/rant

honestly, it depends on how much aim assist they give, but still, I'm not a fan of the idea.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 07, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
I think I may build a new PC just for this game. God. I had lots of fun with Battlefield 2 and I was the type that didn't play in squads, just lone wolfing and dieing constantly. Throwing C4 on buggies and suicide bombing up in that shit. Good times.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on February 07, 2011, 07:33:12 PM
Someone on GAF posted the details from the GI article.


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Aiming for CY Q4 2011 release
-Concept for BF3 has been in the works for years, waiting on proper tech to seamlessly come together
-Frosbite 2.0 is the culmination of this tech, entirely re-written
-Lighting sounds neat, one "probe" contains more lighting information than an entire BFBC2 level.
-Level destruction is going to be "believable" but basically everything is destructible.
-Character animations powered by ANT, what EA Sports uses.
-AI characters and multiplayer characters have different animation sets
-No more "gliding" animations that look off, animation realism is a focus
-Captured their own war audios (bullets, tanks, helicopters, etc) at different distances to ensure realism
-Better audio cues for certain actions, more easily able to listen for threats
-Plan on better, more immediate post release content
-More unlocks than BFBC2
-Dice trying to find a good balance between customization of your character and not having "pink rabbit hat(s)"
-4 classes
-Will talk about squads "later"
-Looking into a theater mode but can't talk about it
-Will have co-op
-There will be a kill-cam but it can be turned off
-BF3's team is almost twice as big as the team for BFBC2
-They want the pacing of the single player mode to be balanced, with highs and lows. Makes the comparison to a song vs a guitar solo.
-Part of the single player mode takes place in Sulaymaniyah - Iraqi Kurdistan.
-"Fuck" will be used often, so M rated for sure
-There will be an earthquake in a level. The destruction sounds very impressive. 7 story building collapses, looks very well done
-Significant narrative that goes with the SP mode
-More than one setting, you're not in the middle east for the whole game
-PC version is lead version
-Why 64 players for PC only? No complains from the console crowd.
-No mod tools at release. Maybe none down the line either. Frosbite 2.0 is complex and mods tools would have to be dumbed down, so does Dice really want to put their time to that or would it be better spent elsewhere?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on February 07, 2011, 08:01:09 PM
Some really good stuff, some really interesting stuff and some really ??? stuff. Either way, I'm signed on for the sound design alone.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 07, 2011, 08:07:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Di0Al.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/onLDr.jpg)

looks good but I hope they don't stick to the MoH hud style.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 07, 2011, 08:37:39 PM
H...holy fuck

I have to remember scans and photos of magazines (and possible bullshots) do special things to PC screens
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 07, 2011, 08:39:46 PM
DICE doesn't need to use bullshots with the PC version.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 07, 2011, 09:02:21 PM
H...holy fuck

I have to remember scans and photos of magazines (and possible bullshots) do special things to PC screens

what's crazy is that all those buildings are collapsing in that picture (at least, I think that's the picture they were talking about).
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on February 08, 2011, 02:59:58 AM
http://battlefield.gamersverse.com/articles/655/game-informer-cover-issue-including-scans/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on February 08, 2011, 05:12:02 AM
HUD looks too much like that shitty MOH HUD.

Keep in mind, MoH's HUD is like a dot-matrix version of BFBC2's HUD. If anything, BF3 is closer to BC2.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 08, 2011, 06:33:16 AM
I haven't played BC2 in a while, but am I wrong in thinkng that the FOV already looks a lot better in this?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 08, 2011, 08:25:53 AM
I used a custom fov in Bad Company 2 because the normal one made me a bit queasy, but to my eyes, it seems considerably wider than the BC2 default.  Bad Company 2 did have one of the tightest fovs in a game, though.

It screens remind me of Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter on PC (the ones from Grin, different from the Xbox 360 ones).
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 08, 2011, 11:38:20 AM
PC is the lead platform w/ dedicated servers.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: TEEEPO on February 08, 2011, 06:42:32 PM
wow  :o
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 08, 2011, 06:49:22 PM
if i get sniped and you sonsofbitches just leave me there screaming instead of pulling me over to a medic, i will pull the pins on all my grenades and take you all with me
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 08, 2011, 11:49:49 PM
Are they seriously going to be putting in a singleplayer mode?

I remember when i was stuck in rehab for a few months all I had was Battlefield :Vietnam with no online play, so I played the shit out of the single player version of that, which was just a bot filled version of the multiplyaer.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 09, 2011, 12:26:53 AM
if i get sniped and you sonsofbitches just leave me there screaming instead of pulling me over to a medic, i will pull the pins on all my grenades and take you all with me

That makes me hope they still plan to have some advanced movement ala mirror's edge or brink in this.  Running past fire just to heal or revive teammates was my favorite part of the Battlefield games.  I almost always played medic and my top priority was saving lives.  Dammit, I'm a doctor, not a soldier.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on February 09, 2011, 11:55:05 AM
holy fuck, best looking game ever.

I <3 DX11
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: ManaByte on February 09, 2011, 06:14:55 PM
Non-scanned images from GI:
(http://i.imgur.com/vg2sI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ujPIC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cveVX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GTbnc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dhGj6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8BS9n.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CaJ8b.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lmSWe.jpg)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on February 23, 2011, 09:15:21 AM
first gameplay footage, very short teaser

http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/gameplay-debut

edit: youtube
[youtube=560,345]k2ciMfYcYzs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on February 23, 2011, 10:22:02 AM
EA > Actvision
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on February 23, 2011, 10:27:45 AM
nm
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: archie4208 on February 23, 2011, 11:20:50 AM
:bow PC :bow2
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 23, 2011, 11:50:18 AM
i hope they don't overdo the mirror's edge climbing type stuff in the game

that would be annoying as hell, getting clipped in the head while stuck in an elaborate  climbing animation
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on February 23, 2011, 12:58:05 PM
i hope they don't overdo the mirror's edge climbing type stuff in the game

that would be annoying as hell, getting clipped in the head while stuck in an elaborate  climbing animation

Has that stuff been confirmed? I've been hoping for it ever since they teased it years ago.  If it is, it will probably be like it's in Brink or Crysis 2 where it is a quick animation.  It's better than jumping at a wall, half your torso clears it, and you're stuck because the guy is glued to his gun.  Or times when you have to jump and crouch to reach a higher ledge.  But yeah, getting shot while climbing ladders does suck.

And that teaser is nutty.  that's a pretty huge jump from BC2 or any other game; the scale, animations, lighting, style, and everything look great.  I like how they have tiny glimpses of new (or "new" compared with BC2) mechanics like dragging bodies, prone, and the sound of jet overhead. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 23, 2011, 01:54:56 PM
That death animation of the character getting shot is awesome. Gonna be awesome.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on February 23, 2011, 01:59:26 PM
Yeah this game looks like cum. Gonna pick up an LE of MoH to get into the beta. There are tons of those things lying around.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on February 23, 2011, 02:17:15 PM
full gameplay trailer is march 1st
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on February 23, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
Wicked awesome
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 23, 2011, 06:01:44 PM
cumming
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on February 23, 2011, 07:02:46 PM
DICE must have felt fucking stupid working on the multiplayer for MOH.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 23, 2011, 07:41:53 PM
you could certainly tell they were rushed through it and ended up not giving a shit
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: ManaByte on March 02, 2011, 02:56:04 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvj7GMhZxC8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 02, 2011, 03:16:12 AM
holy shit
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 02, 2011, 05:42:04 AM
looks hot. now show us some MP plz
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on March 02, 2011, 06:18:34 AM
it looks like someone splashed white color over everything,hate shit like that

(http://oi56.tinypic.com/33avvo4.jpg)

This screenshot was in gaf OP,got deleted...i wonder why
This looks totally meh,especially for a PC centric game...buildings on the right look horrible
Close ups don't bother me,they will look great,but this... :yuck

/next gen this is not
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 02, 2011, 11:08:58 AM
what a fucking year

duke nukem
infamous 2 (hoping for an uncharted to uncharted 2 leap in game quality here)
uncharted 3 (hoping for an uncharted to uncharted 2 leap in game quality here)
arkham city
battlefield 3
witcher 2
serious sam 3
red orchestra
resistance 3 (i liked the second game, suck it)
homefront
skyrim
la noire
red faction
motorstorm apocalypse
crysis 2
socom 4

fuck, that's just a short list of mainstream stuff i'm interested in that's been announced SO FAR, probably no way i'll even get around to everything here
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on March 02, 2011, 12:46:21 PM
it looks like someone splashed white color over everything,hate shit like that

(http://oi56.tinypic.com/33avvo4.jpg)

This screenshot was in gaf OP,got deleted...i wonder why
This looks totally meh,especially for a PC centric game...buildings on the right look horrible
Close ups don't bother me,they will look great,but this... :yuck

/next gen this is not

dude you're nuts...go watch the actual trailer. No console game has graphics like that.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on March 04, 2011, 05:48:25 AM
Day / Night cycles in BF3?

http://n4g.com/news/clickout/713436

Unffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on March 04, 2011, 10:19:32 AM
off screen footage,bad compression,etc

http://multiplayer.it/video/battlefield-3_a-per-ps3/battlefield-3-gameplay-gdc-2011.hi/ (http://multiplayer.it/video/battlefield-3_a-per-ps3/battlefield-3-gameplay-gdc-2011.hi/)


have to say,it looks really good,tons of cash went into BF3

consoles will run that at 20 fps(some horribly crippled version of course)

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWjBBWU3m4Q&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 04, 2011, 01:44:57 PM
That's some quality vent crawling action right there.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on March 04, 2011, 01:49:20 PM
Looks wicked awesome. Shooter-EA is rocking ass.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on March 08, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
leaked gdc demonstration gameplay
[youtube=560,345]LxZriQ4weTM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on March 30, 2011, 07:57:41 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbW98JYSjos[/youtube]

hmm
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on April 07, 2011, 02:21:14 PM
Battlefield 3 will be launched this November,$100 million marketing budget

http://adage.com/article/special-report-digital-conference/ea-ceo-riccitiello-gaming-mass-media/226832/ (http://adage.com/article/special-report-digital-conference/ea-ceo-riccitiello-gaming-mass-media/226832/)

Nice to see that gaming industry is still distinguished mentally-challenged.

November

COD
Battlefield 3
Skyrim
Uncharted 3
Some Halo game is rumored also(November 15th=Halo CE 10th Anniversary)

Probably missing some games too


Video is interesting btw,tons of interesting statistics.

Apple generation is mentioned
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 07, 2011, 04:27:26 PM
It will do fine. It won't do as well as the next COD game but despite whatever EA is saying I believe they know that. The aim isn't to outsell COD. It's to grow EA's marketshare in the category which they will do.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on April 16, 2011, 09:54:25 AM
Full trailer

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zw8SmsovJc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

basically nothing that hasn't been shown before
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2011, 08:23:30 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5orVOvwds8&feature=player_embedded#at=32[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GQq7aIrNDU&feature=player_embedded#at=35[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 07, 2011, 10:03:42 AM
That may have been the most random multiplayer clip ever.

I wish they would just show straight up gameplay from the Mp side. I wonder if they are showing that at E3. Also would be nice to see the console version in addition to the crazy high performance PC stuff which my current machine couldn't display anyway although it does look very good.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 07, 2011, 01:27:02 PM
That may have been the most random multiplayer clip ever.

I wish they would just show straight up gameplay from the Mp side. I wonder if they are showing that at E3. Also would be nice to see the console version in addition to the crazy high performance PC stuff which my current machine couldn't display anyway although it does look very good.

apparently there will be 4 hours of new footage 4:30 EST today
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2011, 01:35:24 PM
Will be waiting for superior WiiU version. :smug
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Brehvolution on June 07, 2011, 01:41:38 PM
Will be waiting for superior WiiU version. :smug
:rofl
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 07, 2011, 04:36:06 PM
stream is up

http://www.ustream.tv/battlefield3
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 07, 2011, 04:46:21 PM
they're starting with the boring tank gameplay we've already seen

get to the multi already
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Pringo on June 07, 2011, 11:28:23 PM
they're starting with the boring tank gameplay we've already seen

get to the multi already

Boring or not, this video is absolutely sick looking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UwOrl036_A

Best looking lighting and dust I think I've ever seen in a game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on June 08, 2011, 09:29:18 PM
only decent videos:
[youtube=560,345]lwKLCn9bgOA[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]sO6qkiTUES8[/youtube]



and info copy/pasted from gaf (copied from somewhere else)
Quote
Squad Leader confirmed, 4 Person Squad
Ability to spot a Enemy Squad Leader
Equippable Grenades
Falling debris from destruction 3.0 can kill players!
Equippable knife as well as quick knife (like BC2)
Support class able to mount bipods and give ammo
Rifleman class has medpack + defibrillator
Ability to change fire modes in multiplayer (semi/burst/auto)
Regenerative health in MP, but suppression effect stops regen (only regen when you aren’t under fire)
Suppression effects from LMG, blur vision
Flashlights can blind the enemy
First Person Animations in Multiplayer
Faction Specific Weapons + Unlocks
Vehicles can be immobilized before being destroyed
Able to opt out of Revives in Multiplayer
3D spotting

Solution to keeping regenerative health and retaining the medic class' usefulness sounds good.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 08, 2011, 10:08:58 PM
What is "3D" spotting?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 08, 2011, 10:30:50 PM
You can tell the framerate is rock steady in those multiplayer videos. Looks so damn smooth.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 14, 2011, 03:31:44 PM
took some screen caps

(http://s3.postimage.org/msmj6cr9e/bf3.jpg)

(http://s3.postimage.org/msm0zfxtu/bf1.jpg)

(http://s3.postimage.org/msp24wuf6/bf4.jpg)

(http://s3.postimage.org/msph0qyv6/bf2.jpg)

(http://s3.postimage.org/msn6bvm6a/bf5.jpg)


insane lightning.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Pringo on June 16, 2011, 04:28:37 PM
(http://h4.abload.de/img/10832_battlefield-39q7c.jpg)

(http://h4.abload.de/img/10831_battlefield-3ttal.jpg)

(http://h4.abload.de/img/10829_battlefield-3trpw.jpg)

(http://h4.abload.de/img/10825_battlefield-33s77.jpg)

(http://h4.abload.de/img/10823_battlefield-36qms.jpg)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on June 16, 2011, 04:29:37 PM
Boring
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2011, 01:58:46 AM
PS3 footage debuted on Jimmy Fallon

It looked weeooooooooooo

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLCFQyqEoHA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2011, 10:13:08 AM
bad part to demo, probably looked like every other modern war game to a normal viewer

what makes battlefield fun is loading up vehicles with explosives and jihading others, lighting shit up with helicopters, parachuting in the middle of enemy territory and causing chaos, getting a lucky shot with a tank and taking out a plane - they talked about "large scale" but then they showed this little boxed-in section
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Mupepe on June 17, 2011, 03:50:16 PM
bad part to demo, probably looked like every other modern war game to a normal viewer

what makes battlefield fun is loading up vehicles with explosives and jihading others, lighting shit up with helicopters, parachuting in the middle of enemy territory and causing chaos, getting a lucky shot with a tank and taking out a plane - they talked about "large scale" but then they showed this little boxed-in section
Is any of that going to be in here?  Or is it now just a CoD clone?  Because I completely agree with what you said.  That's what made the previous Battlefield games fun, but this looks like a "me too" game with all that gone.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
i think the sp is probably gonna end up being somewhat of a cod clone, but the multi is still the same old battlefield style  (although there is a cod-styled deathmatch mode)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on June 17, 2011, 04:39:55 PM
bad part to demo, probably looked like every other modern war game to a normal viewer

what makes battlefield fun is loading up vehicles with explosives and jihading others, lighting shit up with helicopters, parachuting in the middle of enemy territory and causing chaos, getting a lucky shot with a tank and taking out a plane - they talked about "large scale" but then they showed this little boxed-in section

I think that was the point. CoD dudebros don't like sandbox gameplay.

If that demo was "sandbox" then we've got a new definition of sandbox.  The exact same shit happened there that happened the last time they showed that section.  Looks like the single player game in Battlefield 3 is going to be scripted all to hell just like your standard CoD game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on June 17, 2011, 04:47:04 PM
gotcha.

Next time I guess I should probably read the whole thing instead of just bits and pieces.  ;)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2011, 06:13:50 PM
bad part to demo, probably looked like every other modern war game to a normal viewer

what makes battlefield fun is loading up vehicles with explosives and jihading others, lighting shit up with helicopters, parachuting in the middle of enemy territory and causing chaos, getting a lucky shot with a tank and taking out a plane - they talked about "large scale" but then they showed this little boxed-in section
Is any of that going to be in here?  Or is it now just a CoD clone?  Because I completely agree with what you said.  That's what made the previous Battlefield games fun, but this looks like a "me too" game with all that gone.

eh what? MP has confirmed jets, large maps etc the usual battlefield elements. DICE is showing SP right now so they can hype MP near release instead. Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2011, 06:31:28 PM
bad part to demo, probably looked like every other modern war game to a normal viewer

what makes battlefield fun is loading up vehicles with explosives and jihading others, lighting shit up with helicopters, parachuting in the middle of enemy territory and causing chaos, getting a lucky shot with a tank and taking out a plane - they talked about "large scale" but then they showed this little boxed-in section

I think that was the point. CoD dudebros don't like sandbox gameplay.

CoD dudebros also don't care about a short little firefight in a court yard. Compare what was shown from BF3 to what Activision showed of Modern Warfare 3 in the same venue, it's a laughable attempt by EA to win over hardcore CoD fans who would have been watching.

Again, compared to the CoD footage, this looks like a simulation and not the balls to the wall action CoD had on display.

oh please it was 4 minutes of gameplay. You say like it will be in a courtyard the whole game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
it was 4 minutes of gameplay on a national television program

of course you and i know it isn't gonna be like that, but it doesn't exactly sway over the reg'lar folks who only play cod every year

i wasn't complaining, just saying it was a bad choice of a section to demo on tv
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2011, 07:29:56 PM
bad part to demo, probably looked like every other modern war game to a normal viewer

what makes battlefield fun is loading up vehicles with explosives and jihading others, lighting shit up with helicopters, parachuting in the middle of enemy territory and causing chaos, getting a lucky shot with a tank and taking out a plane - they talked about "large scale" but then they showed this little boxed-in section

I think that was the point. CoD dudebros don't like sandbox gameplay.

CoD dudebros also don't care about a short little firefight in a court yard. Compare what was shown from BF3 to what Activision showed of Modern Warfare 3 in the same venue, it's a laughable attempt by EA to win over hardcore CoD fans who would have been watching.

Again, compared to the CoD footage, this looks like a simulation and not the balls to the wall action CoD had on display.

oh please it was 4 minutes of gameplay. You say like it will be in a courtyard the whole game.

Here's the four minute clip of Modern Warfare 3 shown on Jimmy Fallon:

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eh7ob9H408[/youtube]

Compare this clip of a wide-scale New York invasion and then Spec Ops mode with Simon Pegg with Battlefield 3's courtyard shootout. Public perception is everything and EA dropped the ball significantly. They could have at shown the building falling down later in the same mission.

the thing is that frostbite 2 with its dx11 tech shits on MW3 though, people were impressed by the graphics on the show. That's more worth than what specific level they show off.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: naff on June 17, 2011, 07:33:15 PM
Probably should've shown one of the more scripted extreme situations shown in earlier videos like when they're fighting on the street and an earthquake happens destroying a heli as a building falls on it. Still, compared to the MW3 segment where Fallon played spec ops with Pegg and pretty much just moved around in circles while they were trying to get him to 'pick up the shotgun!' it wasn't that bad.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2011, 07:49:04 PM
the thing is that frostbite 2 with its dx11 tech shits on MW3 though, people were impressed by the graphics on the show.

You mean the tech they didn't get to see because they were playing the PS3 version?

lol the same tech is in the PS3 version...

quoting DICE:

Quote
Frostbite 2.0

    Focus on workflows

    Frostbite 2 uses deferred rendering

    Target platforms PS3, Xbox 360 and DirectX10/11
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 17, 2011, 08:27:49 PM


Battlefield 3 on consoles looks about the same as Bad Company 2 on consoles. Yeah, it has better animation, probably more particle effects and more subtle damage on objects but overall they look pretty close.

lol wtf, no it doesn't. And please dont jump to conclusions when there has been extremely sparse footage of the console versions yet. And once again, Frostbite 2.0 was not available for BC2. You are the real dumbass here. CoD fanboy.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2011, 09:00:06 PM
This is part of the reason why I avoid these threads until the games release. The inevitable COD versus Battlefield arguments which are fairly pointless. Not dissing anybody here but just saying.


I get why they picked that part of the clip to show on Jimmy Fallon. You can't demonstrate sandbox multiplayer gameplay in a 4 minute clip on Jimmy Fallon. It's not the venue for it.


It looks good for a console game that is going to be 30 fps. I still would like to see actual MP gameplay on the console version but I wasn't expecting it here.




Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2011, 10:04:10 PM
I just want to see classic battlefield multiplayer

E3 was supposed to be the 'multiplayer revealed!' but it was just infantry stuff.  I want a full scale battle with jets, helicopters, boats, tanks, cars, infantry, etc.  I want to see someone use a plain just to get from point A to B, then abandon it in midair to parachute down and die in two seconds, wasting valuable military resources and funds.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 18, 2011, 05:49:30 AM
I just want to see classic battlefield multiplayer

E3 was supposed to be the 'multiplayer revealed!' but it was just infantry stuff.  I want a full scale battle with jets, helicopters, boats, tanks, cars, infantry, etc.  I want to see someone use a plain just to get from point A to B, then abandon it in midair to parachute down and die in two seconds, wasting valuable military resources and funds.

You were able to play multiplayer at DICE booth, and yes it didn't had any vehicles in it. But the end product will have it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2011, 09:11:17 AM
Quote
Target platforms PS3, Xbox 360 and DirectX10/11

That means very little because DX is a software api,any cpu can run it,the only question is how fast.Graphics cards have transistor configurations tailored to DX api and that makes them extremely fast and effective.
 
PS3 version is not 720p,btw...1280x704
Bunch of other stuff is gone,like high quality motion blur...

This footage looks fine but I bet that nobody would notice if that footage was labeled as MW3 footage.You can't beat COD like that.

EA needs to show exactly what Linkzg said and honestly I'm quite surprised that they didn't do that at E3.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 18, 2011, 12:41:55 PM
Quote
Target platforms PS3, Xbox 360 and DirectX10/11

That means very little because DX is a software api,any cpu can run it,the only question is how fast.Graphics cards have transistor configurations tailored to DX api and that makes them extremely fast and effective.
 
PS3 version is not 720p,btw...1280x704
Bunch of other stuff is gone,like high quality motion blur...

This footage looks fine but I bet that nobody would notice if that footage was labeled as MW3 footage.You can't beat COD like that.

EA needs to show exactly what Linkzg said and honestly I'm quite surprised that they didn't do that at E3.



Dice has said this is not final footage, it is pre alpha, pre beta, pre ship. Everything will most likely improve
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: naff on June 18, 2011, 10:36:42 PM
That looked pretty good for a PS3 version. It's interesting they chose to demo it on PS3, gotta remember that the triple can't use Direct3D or anything DX related so it must mean Dice is pretty confident on Frostbite 2's performance outside of Microsoft platforms.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on June 19, 2011, 01:55:12 AM
Angry LOLstation 3 fan
Quote
why cant Dice take more time learning the PS3 hardware, if you would, that gameplay would of looked 10 times better, example: KZ3/UN3!


DICE rendering architect
Quote
bullshit
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: naff on June 19, 2011, 09:04:17 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 19, 2011, 10:02:27 AM
"Learn hardware". Dudes either trolling or that's a great way to spot a mouth breather with no experience with developing games.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on June 19, 2011, 10:59:10 AM
BF3 is at dreamhack right now. No new info though.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/324769975.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1308496529&Signature=oRLFzlCJtUq%2BsLlsESdco536F8g%3D)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 16, 2011, 11:26:53 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDDfPxF3EFE&hd=1[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 16, 2011, 11:35:17 AM
Looks pretty wild.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 16, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
omg

dat jet gameplay
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 16, 2011, 12:57:56 PM
THIS LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on August 16, 2011, 01:23:04 PM
http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=165281

info~
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2011, 02:39:39 PM
the jets look amazing.  it might just be the video, but they looked slightly slowed down from BF2. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 16, 2011, 02:53:15 PM
Regenerative health in tanks seems like an odd idea for this series. I can see certain instances where that could be really annoying. We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 16, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
Regenerative health for tanks? I don't get it :(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on August 16, 2011, 10:26:52 PM
I remembering reading a bit into it before.  It's not like infantry's regenerating health where you hide and it recovers in seconds.  It's supposed to be very slow and basically ineffective in action to keep the engineer relevant.

I think it's so you don't jump in a jeep and find it only has 5% health.  Because engineers have no real reason to repair random, unattended vehicles.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 04, 2011, 03:58:32 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/300061_10150279965528616_346599183615_7948589_4696636_n.jpg)

 :-X
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: BlueTsunami on September 04, 2011, 04:19:19 PM
I wonder how that's going to work? Install the game to the HDD?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 04, 2011, 04:22:02 PM
maybe

or sp and mp disc
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 04, 2011, 05:14:45 PM
sp and mp dvds make the most sense.  a lot of pc games use a different executable for each component, like the Call of Duty games.  I know the 360 version lets you boot straight into multiplayer for Black Ops.  I'm guessing DVD 2 will be like that. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: archie4208 on September 05, 2011, 10:19:17 AM
Xbox version is 2 discs.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 05, 2011, 04:12:31 PM
isnt RAGE using 3 discs?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: chronovore on September 06, 2011, 07:37:06 AM
isnt RAGE using 3 discs?

RAGE is using only one disc, and only one big texture.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 06, 2011, 03:31:21 PM
isnt RAGE using 3 discs?

No.

Quote
RAGE is using only one disc, and only one big texture.

http://www.xg247.co.uk/news/06/e3-2011-lve-rage-to-come-on-3-discs-on-the-xbox-360/

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: naff on September 06, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
If Tim Willits said three discs, two for SP one for MP that's better than some websites that say 22gb install then assuming 2 discs. 22gb for SP sounds likely.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: chronovore on September 07, 2011, 04:54:05 AM
Sorry, my post was intended as a joke.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 09, 2011, 11:22:15 PM
Jesus CHRIST this game looks incredible

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5eLbPQt_Pk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2011, 02:59:07 AM
I think I'm past "OMG look at dem graphics." With how SHIT the Bad Company 2 campaign was, it's hardly something to get excited about.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2011, 03:22:16 AM
Nobody plays BF games for the SP. Except maybe the ex-Haze players.

Yet that's a campaign trailer we just saw. Evolve, Borys.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 10, 2011, 03:25:55 AM
Yeah I still don't care about the campaign

just TEH GRAPHIX
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 12, 2011, 06:41:33 AM
Battlefield 3 360 pics
 :rofl
(http://www.abload.de/img/720p3j7uy.png)

(http://www.abload.de/img/720p2zjx9.png)

(http://www.abload.de/img/720p128ra.png)

WTF is this  :lol...XBOX 1 pictures?

No wonder that they are hiding 360 version,it looks like shit
BF3turd
COD at 60 fps looks generation ahead of this

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: naff on September 12, 2011, 07:41:49 AM
Damn, under 7 weeks till launch and this is looking worse than BFBC2... Wtf

Even if I had a good rig I want 360 version to play with friends. Meh, I'll still love the game, even if I am in the console ghetto  :'(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 12, 2011, 07:48:36 AM
To be fair,this is some dev build.

But if you expect miracles,don't


Jet gameplay
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-XylhLXz48&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]

This is the first 360 gameplay footage and of course it's low rez and compressed like hell.

And that happens like one month before BF3 hits the shelves,EA marketing total fail.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on September 12, 2011, 07:58:00 AM
BF3 gonna get slaughtered on consoles by COD sadly. Probably will be $40 by Black Friday, if not sooner.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 12, 2011, 08:25:16 AM
Part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft75mmBuXaI&feature=channel_video_title

This shit is leaking like crazy,the good thing is that EA might be forced to release some proper 360 footage.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 12, 2011, 08:28:28 AM
lulz. That gaf thread is funny because the bf3 fanboys are spinning their asses off. That crew is very obnoxious on GAF.

For what its worth I personally don't really care about the graphics. I'm sure they will be decent enough when the game releases. The fact that its 30 fps on consoles bothers me more than any perceived graphical issues.

Also the game will sell well on consoles. BC 2 sold well on consoles. This will sell better than that. Because it won't reach MW 3 numbers doesn't mean it didn't sell well. Not to mention it will have a huge marketing budget. It already has had one in fact.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 12, 2011, 09:17:01 AM
Battlefield 3 360 pics
 :rofl
(http://www.abload.de/img/720p3j7uy.png)

(http://www.abload.de/img/720p2zjx9.png)

(http://www.abload.de/img/720p128ra.png)

[youtube=560,345]1ytCEuuW2_A[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 12, 2011, 10:19:30 AM
playing battlefield on a console  ???
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: archie4208 on September 12, 2011, 10:24:12 AM
I wonder if the PC version on low looks better.  :teehee
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 12, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
lulz. That gaf thread is funny because the bf3 fanboys are spinning their asses off. That crew is very obnoxious on GAF.

For what its worth I personally don't really care about the graphics. I'm sure they will be decent enough when the game releases. The fact that its 30 fps on consoles bothers me more than any perceived graphical issues.

Also the game will sell well on consoles. BC 2 sold well on consoles. This will sell better than that. Because it won't reach MW 3 numbers doesn't mean it didn't sell well. Not to mention it will have a huge marketing budget. It already has had one in fact.

24 player limit as opposed to 64 players should bother you more
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 12, 2011, 11:16:59 AM
lulz. That gaf thread is funny because the bf3 fanboys are spinning their asses off. That crew is very obnoxious on GAF.

For what its worth I personally don't really care about the graphics. I'm sure they will be decent enough when the game releases. The fact that its 30 fps on consoles bothers me more than any perceived graphical issues.

Also the game will sell well on consoles. BC 2 sold well on consoles. This will sell better than that. Because it won't reach MW 3 numbers doesn't mean it didn't sell well. Not to mention it will have a huge marketing budget. It already has had one in fact.

24 player limit as opposed to 64 players should bother you more

I'd rather play 24-players and have $1000 left in my pocket, thanks.

what happened to you, borys
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 12, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
lulz. That gaf thread is funny because the bf3 fanboys are spinning their asses off. That crew is very obnoxious on GAF.

For what its worth I personally don't really care about the graphics. I'm sure they will be decent enough when the game releases. The fact that its 30 fps on consoles bothers me more than any perceived graphical issues.

Also the game will sell well on consoles. BC 2 sold well on consoles. This will sell better than that. Because it won't reach MW 3 numbers doesn't mean it didn't sell well. Not to mention it will have a huge marketing budget. It already has had one in fact.

24 player limit as opposed to 64 players should bother you more

I would prefer they bumped it up to 32 like Homefront but honestly I'm not one of those dudes who jizz at 64 player battlefield. All those players just tend to make the game a chaotic mess imo. Same reason why I don't like the over-stuffed player counts in the PC versions of the COD games.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 12, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Why would anyone willing buy a console BF over PC BF? Makes no sense. 24 players v 64 players, come on son
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 12, 2011, 12:59:39 PM
Why would anyone willing buy a console BF over PC BF? Makes no sense. 24 players v 64 players, come on son

1. I'm not a graphics guy
2. High player count is meaningless to me. See MAG.
3. I've got a core set of people I already play shooters with on my friends list.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on September 12, 2011, 02:40:57 PM
lulz. That gaf thread is funny because the bf3 fanboys are spinning their asses off. That crew is very obnoxious on GAF.

For what its worth I personally don't really care about the graphics. I'm sure they will be decent enough when the game releases. The fact that its 30 fps on consoles bothers me more than any perceived graphical issues.

Also the game will sell well on consoles. BC 2 sold well on consoles. This will sell better than that. Because it won't reach MW 3 numbers doesn't mean it didn't sell well. Not to mention it will have a huge marketing budget. It already has had one in fact.

24 player limit as opposed to 64 players should bother you more

I would prefer they bumped it up to 32 like Homefront but honestly I'm not one of those dudes who jizz at 64 player battlefield. All those players just tend to make the game a chaotic mess imo. Same reason why I don't like the over-stuffed player counts in the PC versions of the COD games.

That's all dependent on the crowd and the map layout, though. I feel less crowded on a full Warhawk map than I do on a typical COD map with a fraction of the player count. Either way I prefer having the option, as opposed to being locked into some lower number. But to each their own.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 13, 2011, 12:00:00 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-13-ea-explains-bf3-xbox-360-disc-split#justposted (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-13-ea-explains-bf3-xbox-360-disc-split#justposted)

Quote
Eurogamer has discovered what is on each of the two Xbox 360 Battlefield 3 DVD discs.

"Battlefield 3 for Xbox 360 ships on two discs with endless hours of spectacular high-definition gameplay," EA told us this afternoon.

"Disc one features the stunning multiplayer, co-op levels and HD installation content.

"Disc two features the superb single-player campaign."

From the comments

Quote
Just quizzed EA on the "HD installation" comment, thinking they might have meant "HDD installation".
But they didn't. It's definitely "HD installation content", as in "hi-definition".

Could be high def cutscenes or hi def something

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 17, 2011, 01:34:57 AM
First 360 footage

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzA4dv0xkzg&feature=feedu[/youtube]

flashy
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 17, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
never trust leaked footage
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 20, 2011, 09:28:37 AM
Beta is Setp 29th to Oct 10th. Rush mode. Map is Metro

so basically same as alpha

so basically i'm not mad about not getting in early.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 21, 2011, 10:25:36 AM
Beta is Setp 29th to Oct 10th. Rush mode. Map is Metro

so basically same as alpha

so basically i'm not mad about not getting in early.

beta is 27th for those who bought moh le
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 21, 2011, 12:26:47 PM
also origin pre-orders
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 21, 2011, 01:35:55 PM
also origin pre-orders

can you still preorder and get it early?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 21, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
yes
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 22, 2011, 05:40:25 AM
you can now check if your system is going to run the game using http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

(http://i.imgur.com/9GZ0U.jpg)

16 gigs of ram :smug
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 22, 2011, 09:47:02 AM
Those gigabytes won't help you with this


http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/09/22/battlefield-3-beta-dates-and-ps3-dlc-exclusivity-2/ (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/09/22/battlefield-3-beta-dates-and-ps3-dlc-exclusivity-2/)
Quote
You’ll be happy to know that, starting with our first expansion pack Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand (released later this year), all full-blown upcoming expansion packs for the game will appear one week early exclusively on PlayStation

mastertards  :'(
xtards  :'(


stards  :lol  :smug
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 22, 2011, 01:30:20 PM
Why does it look so shit on threesixy? Gears 3 looks great.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 22, 2011, 06:21:54 PM
BF2 didn't really have single player; same for 1942, Vietnam and 2142.  I remember the single player modes were just bot matches.

BF2 Modern Combat on the PS2/Xbox/360 was the first Battlefield game to have something resembling a single player game.  It was still a bot match, but you were some magical battlefield ghost who could inhabit any friendly soldier.  So if you were a ground unit and saw a helicopter, you could transplant your consciousness into that helicopter pilot instantly.  Bad Company 1 had an actual campaign, but the maps were still fairly open and Battlefield-ish.  Bad Company 2 was Call of Duty.  Battlefield 3 is Call of Duty. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 22, 2011, 08:02:24 PM
Why does it look so shit on threesixy? Gears 3 looks great.

lol did you see the official 360 trailer? blows away gears easily.

Frostbite 2.0 > UE3

Quote
I honestly didn't know that BF2 had a SP until this game was talked about

uh BF2 did not have a SP.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 25, 2011, 06:15:50 PM
so is anyone here going to play the beta?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 25, 2011, 06:26:37 PM
After the early access stuff, is it open to everyone or only preorders?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 25, 2011, 06:31:24 PM
After the early access stuff, is it open to everyone or only preorders?

it's a full open beta.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 25, 2011, 06:32:53 PM
Then yeah I'll definitely play it next week on 360 although I'm going to be out of town for a few days next week.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 25, 2011, 06:33:47 PM
Then yeah I'll definitely play it next week on 360 although I'm going to be out of town for a few days next week.

ok i am going to play it on pc, but you can give 360 impressions
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 25, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
Then yeah I'll definitely play it next week on 360 although I'm going to be out of town for a few days next week.

ok i am going to play it on pc, but you can give 360 impressions

I'm sure most on here will be on PC. But yeah I'm very interested in BF 3 on 360. I've been playing BC 2 in anticipation. I wish it was conquest instead of Rush which I don't really like but whatever.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 26, 2011, 01:12:21 PM
[youtube=560,345]coOHjF4_apI[/youtube]

"above and beyond the call"
 
gee I wonder what that means
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on September 26, 2011, 01:31:14 PM
graphics on pc is really unreal and everything is realtime, no pre-rendered cutscenes.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 27, 2011, 03:44:00 AM
That trailer is pretty shitty,music doesn't fit at all.

Beta footage(360)
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Kwli4VZR6CU#[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 27, 2011, 03:46:06 AM
Yeah the trailer is laughably bad imo. It's trying to ape a call of duty trailer but its shit.


That being said its nice to finally actually at least see console footage although I'm not a fan of that map.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 27, 2011, 04:20:22 AM
Watched a good deal of that footage. Looks similar to BC 2 in many ways although I'm not sure if I'm a fan of prone being added back in. Seems to encourage even more sniping and the defense having an even bigger advantage in a mode like rush.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 27, 2011, 05:26:11 AM
Watched a good deal of that footage. Looks similar to BC 2 in many ways although I'm not sure if I'm a fan of prone being added back in. Seems to encourage even more sniping and the defense having an even bigger advantage in a mode like rush.

actually the opposite from just the alpha because all scope use results in a glint that players can see from a fairly far distance. gives sniper positions away real quick.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: FatalT on September 27, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Impressions from the 360 version

- Tons of flickering
- Gets stuck quitting games
- Controls are weird and the presets don't even tell you what the layouts are
- They took out the vehicle, which is stupid
- Animations look pretty nice but can be glitchy
- Grenade throw is confusing as hell. Most of the time grenades just shoot out your body.
- Grenade indicator is REALLY easy to miss
- Spotting change isn't good. Most of the time it doesn't work.
- Great lighting underground, do much care for the outside lighting. Everything it too bright and white.


What? PC version superior confirmed. That makes me not even want to try the 360 beta and just wait for my PC key.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 27, 2011, 09:33:02 PM
one more day :drool
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 28, 2011, 02:48:47 AM
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/gate/?returnUrl=|bf3|servers|show|c356bdec-ba65-463c-8c6b-0fd1d2670a12|EA-testing-US-MyIS-7| (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/gate/?returnUrl=|bf3|servers|show|c356bdec-ba65-463c-8c6b-0fd1d2670a12|EA-testing-US-MyIS-7|)

PASS: Rumncoke


(http://i.imgur.com/fwTE5.jpg)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2011, 03:16:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/PMtdq.jpg)

fuck fuck fuck FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2011, 05:30:31 AM
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/gate/?returnUrl=|bf3|servers|show|c356bdec-ba65-463c-8c6b-0fd1d2670a12|EA-testing-US-MyIS-7| (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/gate/?returnUrl=|bf3|servers|show|c356bdec-ba65-463c-8c6b-0fd1d2670a12|EA-testing-US-MyIS-7|)

PASS: Rumncoke


wait, pass? what? WHAT?????

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 28, 2011, 05:44:04 AM
check gaf thread

Not sure if EA plugged this thing
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 28, 2011, 06:40:00 AM
this is much better

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwJK1KedEPs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 28, 2011, 08:19:02 AM
check gaf thread

Not sure if EA plugged this thing


oh so caspian border is in but you have to use that password to unlock it? and the page you posted is only accessible when it goes public? i'm not in the early access portion.
hopefully it's still there for everyone.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 28, 2011, 08:40:03 AM
check gaf thread

Not sure if EA plugged this thing


oh so caspian border is in but you have to use that password to unlock it? and the page you posted is only accessible when it goes public? i'm not in the early access portion.
hopefully it's still there for everyone.

Yeah,they changed the password though

but tons of CB password protected servers have appeared lately,maybe they will open it to the public


New password:sexyelevator

Will be changed at 18:00 CET

about 3 hours left

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 29, 2011, 05:28:32 AM
it is the 29th and the beta opens up today why is the download button not clickable what the fuck ea?????????????????????????
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on September 29, 2011, 05:56:08 AM
Open Beta
US Eastern - 8:00 AM 29th
US Central - 7:00 AM 29th
US Mountain - 6:00 AM 29th
US Pacific - 5:00 AM 29th
GMT - 12:00 PM 29th
Sweden - 2:00 PM 29th
Aus - 10:00 PM 29th
NZ - 1:00 AM 30th

supposedly
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on September 29, 2011, 07:21:48 AM
40mins for me!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on September 29, 2011, 07:35:46 AM
don't you have to download thru Origin?

edit: yes. dl'in now!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on September 29, 2011, 08:22:08 AM
Can't see it through Origin. Going to bed
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on September 29, 2011, 08:24:11 AM
Can't see it through Origin. Going to bed

it's got a huge ass banner under 'Free Games', unless it's region specific. in that case,  :auscry
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on September 29, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
I've already downloaded the client too and it's not showing up in My Games.

Store page isn't even loading for me so I can't grab it again
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 29, 2011, 08:33:11 AM
DOWNLOADING NOW :hyper
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 29, 2011, 09:22:04 AM
i'm at work and tried to launch it through logmein. and it actually launched!
had fraps open and it shows ~40fps and it defaults to high/ultra

now the long wait until i get home  :(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on September 29, 2011, 03:43:33 PM
I don't know what it is with DICE, but they just can't seem to make a game with good hit/damage cues. I feel like I'm playing airsoft.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Bebpo on September 29, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
I don't know what it is with DICE, but they just can't seem to make a game with good hit/damage cues. I feel like I'm playing airsoft.

I'd like to see a game where getting hit by a bullet actually knocked you a few inches in a direction.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on September 29, 2011, 04:22:19 PM
I don't know what it is with DICE, but they just can't seem to make a game with good hit/damage cues. I feel like I'm playing airsoft.

I'd like to see a game where getting hit by a bullet actually knocked you a few inches in a direction.

its been done

its not fun
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 29, 2011, 04:26:23 PM
Downloaded the beta on 360. Try to start game 10 times. Each time get message that says "The connection with EA Online was lost" and left at main menu.


Nice Job.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on September 29, 2011, 04:42:22 PM
its been done

its not fun

this, ever play zombies in cs source?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on September 29, 2011, 05:48:10 PM
caspian border is sooo much better than operation metro

i can see why its only on locked servers though, the textures are kinda glitchy and it crashes on round end LOL
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 29, 2011, 10:27:40 PM
open origin to play

-lol update origin

fine. after two hours it's installed from origin

-lol you need to install some web browser client

fine, fuck! just let me play

-lol you have official drivers 875.50-C? you need 875.76-A beta drivers, dipshit.

fine, whatever, it's only 150 meg download

-lol sub-70 KB/sec download from Nvidia.  should have gone ATI, hobag.



 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 29, 2011, 10:59:05 PM
i've only been able to get into 1 caspian border game and it was bugged to shit. now every single server is completely full :(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 29, 2011, 11:46:41 PM
good lord the way the pc version works is a gosh darn fucking mess

the only time to change settings is in a match and while you're alive.  when you're dead, escape does nothing.  when the match ends, escape does nothing.  escape only does something while you're alive.  if you want to quit out after a match, you have to load up the next one, deploy and quit out.  the sacred escape button is a minx who's only temped by warm bodies.

I get that this is a beta, but wasn't there an alpha  >:( did no one in the alpha say "you know, the mice have more than two buttons, maybe we should let people bind commands there?" or "why can't I change communication commands from JKL to the years old inputs of TYU."

but the game is really kick ass and looks gorgeous and this is only the metro map and why does everything about this game's management have to be such a mess?

edit: ok, yeah, beta problems.  overreaction.  annoyance.  acceptance.  I want to play caspian borderr.r
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 30, 2011, 01:15:15 AM
lulz. I couldn't get on all evening on the 360.

I ended up over to my brother's house though on unrelated business this evening and downloaded and played it on his ps3.

It looks alright and animates well on consoles but its nothing to overly wet your pants about on either front on consoles although the animations are better than the graphics.. Despite all the hype on consoles it doesn't look any better than some other console games. Not a big deal to me since I'm not a graphics guy but just thought I would mention it.

That being said the game is crazy fun and in the small amount of time I put in this evening this may end up being the best bf console game simply because they finally got the controls right on a console game. BC 1 felt like shit. BC 2 felt mediocre (although a good game) despite people lying to themselves about the game having "realistic" weighty controls.

This game by comparison feels much more snappy and precise than I'm use to for a battlefield games on consoles. Dare I say it, but it feels almost COD-ish by comparsion even though there is still more weight to the controls than a COD game. But its a huge step up for the series. The prone stuff feels real good also. Hell, moving in prone actually feels good which is rare in a shooter. Forgot the graphics and animations on consoles. What they need to really be marketing is that they seem to have finally nailed a really fun game that actually controls well which they struggled with before. And this was on a system that is mostly foreign to me. I imagine it will feel even better for me when I play it on my 360 controller.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 30, 2011, 01:28:41 AM
infantry combat is the best in the series by a pretty huge lead.  if it had lean it would be better, but as it is, it's really good.  vaulting over stuff is really satisfying.  everything feels good.

the glitches in the beta are hilarious.  sinking under the earth to find half a dozen mole people trying to aim between the spasms, then the one guy who managed to wedge himself in a rock, firing at anyone who runs above.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 30, 2011, 01:31:08 AM
infantry combat is the best in the series by a pretty huge lead.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: benjipwns on September 30, 2011, 04:09:26 AM
open origin to play

-lol update origin

fine. after two hours it's installed from origin

-lol you need to install some web browser client

fine, fuck! just let me play

-lol you have official drivers 875.50-C? you need 875.76-A beta drivers, dipshit.

fine, whatever, it's only 150 meg download

-lol sub-70 KB/sec download from Nvidia.  should have gone ATI, hobag.



 
lol, I loved this. Every time I think it's finally ready to play, nope! Chuck Testa has another step. Plus I had to change my password because they don't support things like !#$% in passwords.

I've given up for now because I don't want to be assed with the drivers right now.
good lord the way the pc version works is a gosh darn fucking mess

the only time to change settings is in a match and while you're alive.  when you're dead, escape does nothing.  when the match ends, escape does nothing.  escape only does something while you're alive.  if you want to quit out after a match, you have to load up the next one, deploy and quit out.  the sacred escape button is a minx who's only temped by warm bodies.

I get that this is a beta, but wasn't there an alpha  >:( did no one in the alpha say "you know, the mice have more than two buttons, maybe we should let people bind commands there?" or "why can't I change communication commands from JKL to the years old inputs of TYU."

but the game is really kick ass and looks gorgeous and this is only the metro map and why does everything about this game's management have to be such a mess?
It's because they want to do everything from the web browser, the game isn't supposed to have an actual full frontend last I knew.

Thankfully, it's a revolution in gaming and better than anything ever: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446906
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on September 30, 2011, 05:54:36 AM
Played some of this today. I really dig playing it (though it makes me want more Mirror's Edge very badly) but the three-ring circus you must survive to actually get online is pretty unforgivable. Back to Diablo 3.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 30, 2011, 01:14:50 PM

lol, I loved this. Every time I think it's finally ready to play, nope! Chuck Testa has another step. Plus I had to change my password because they don't support things like !#$% in passwords.

I've given up for now because I don't want to be assed with the drivers right now.

It's because they want to do everything from the web browser, the game isn't supposed to have an actual full frontend last I knew.

Thankfully, it's a revolution in gaming and better than anything ever: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446906

I saw that thread yesterday and while I didn't read it, any argument fails because you need your web browser + plugin and Origin to play.

Opening Battlefield 3 in Origin opens your web browser to BF website.
Starting a Battlefield 3 game on the BF website opens up Origin.

I'm completely baffled by the entire system
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on September 30, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-battlefield-3-beta/17-4975/ (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-battlefield-3-beta/17-4975/)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 30, 2011, 01:42:22 PM
do they really not allow you to bind actions to the mice side buttons? if so, that's bullshit, i always put toggle crouch and melee/knife on the sides
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 30, 2011, 01:54:07 PM
It's an issue of the beta, but right now you can't change any mouse buttons or the certain key commands.  at least I hope it's an issue.  Pressing L is both "squad speak" and "enable/disable flashlight" by default, which means turning on your flashlight opens a text box and freezes you until you type gibberish to escape.

Ignoring problems like that, they need to fix the map.  As it is you have a nondescript blue-neon map on the bottom left that can be slightly expanded, but you have no full map of the environment.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: demi on September 30, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
This game looks unimpressive, has campers, and spawn issues just like Bad Company 2.

SNORE

See you guys on Call of Duty.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 30, 2011, 08:30:02 PM
This game looks unimpressive, has campers, and spawn issues just like Bad Company 2.

I know Demi is trolling but spawn issues? It's either spawn on your squad or spawn a mile back at the base. Don't see how there could be spawning issues. It's not as if there is random spawns. Although I guess somebody could theoretically camp the spawn base.

That being said graphically the game isn't all that on consoles though.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: demi on September 30, 2011, 08:40:01 PM
The same dude kept sniping me. Zzzz
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 30, 2011, 08:54:40 PM
The same dude kept sniping me. Zzzz

That's sort of the nature in the beast in this type of game but I hear your point. Rush is often very lame because a good defensive team can get entrenched and lock you down. It's why I prefer conquest.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on September 30, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
metro is just a bad map / very un battlefield-y
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 30, 2011, 09:14:32 PM
rush sucks shit. awful game mode. the brief time i got with conquest on caspian border was great. why wont they let me play that?


if rush was more like Territory in Red Orchestra it would be good.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 30, 2011, 10:02:25 PM
I get this is a beta and the build they released is apparently three weeks old but man there are so many issues. Most betas these days are really just time-limited demos and I feel that this beta has made a bad impression, especially the console versions. I'm still getting BF3 day one but I doubt this beta will do much to convince people not to buy Call of Duty and buy this instead.

And yeah, Caspian Border should have been the map on all three platforms.

Even if the beta was more solid it wouldn't have made a significant difference. Its another one of those things where the internet gives a false impression of the real world. In the real world Call of Duty is way bigger than BF for a good number of reasons. Internet hype about bf3 isn't going to change that. I think bf 3 will sell great. It's just not going to sell anything close to MW 3. But they both will sell many many millions.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 30, 2011, 10:26:07 PM
the shotgun seems a bit too over powered. when the map transitions to the subway station the shotgun pretty much destroys anyone at nearly any range.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 30, 2011, 10:43:35 PM
I'm level 7 and yeah, Metro Rush is wearing on me.  But I've enjoyed it more than any rush in BC2.  I almost never played it in BC2 because the game mode so doesn't capture the dynamic fun of Battlefield.  It feels like going through the motions.

It's also getting old because of how beta-y it can be with the bugs and odd decisions.  I really just want the full game, which is hopefully getting fixed big time.  I don't get why I have to wait ~30 seconds to quit the game because hitting escape does nothing unless you're spawned.

also, I almost wish there was a mandatory tutorial before equipping the flashlight.  Teammates don't realize that shit blinds friendlies too.


edit: how does caspian border run compared to metro? metro is like 60+ in the subway and around 50 outside with the high default settings plus 2x msaa.  Don't know if they limited the visual options for the beta, but it looks nice for what it is.  If caspian border is bad I'll drop some settings.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 30, 2011, 10:53:05 PM
I get this is a beta and the build they released is apparently three weeks old but man there are so many issues. Most betas these days are really just time-limited demos and I feel that this beta has made a bad impression, especially the console versions. I'm still getting BF3 day one but I doubt this beta will do much to convince people not to buy Call of Duty and buy this instead.

And yeah, Caspian Border should have been the map on all three platforms.

Even if the beta was more solid it wouldn't have made a significant difference. Its another one of those things where the internet gives a false impression of the real world. In the real world Call of Duty is way bigger than BF for a good number of reasons. Internet hype about bf3 isn't going to change that. I think bf 3 will sell great. It's just not going to sell anything close to MW 3. But they both will sell many many millions.

You probably could have said this before the COD4 beta with regards to COD and Halo.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on September 30, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
The CoD4 beta was incredible.  It sold me on a game I had no interest in before.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 30, 2011, 11:01:10 PM

edit: how does caspian border run compared to metro? metro is like 60+ in the subway and around 50 outside with the high default settings plus 2x msaa.  Don't know if they limited the visual options for the beta, but it looks nice for what it is.  If caspian border is bad I'll drop some settings.

caspian border ran just slightly worse for me when i got to play it. we're talking about 5 frames difference on average.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 30, 2011, 11:17:35 PM
The CoD4 beta was incredible.  It sold me on a game I had no interest in before.



I wouldn't say I had NO interest but that beta was literally the best game on 360 for me at the time.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 01, 2011, 07:07:36 AM
(http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dice.jpg)

ha ha ha
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on October 01, 2011, 07:37:17 AM
Surely he can't be surprised?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 01, 2011, 08:19:01 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI_8fp7BDts[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on October 01, 2011, 09:04:10 AM
this game is terrible
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 01, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
(http://thesilentchief.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dice.jpg)

ha ha ha

:lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: demi on October 01, 2011, 12:55:05 PM
awful, awful "beta"

Another win for COD
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 01, 2011, 02:40:20 PM
there's some hacked full player servers for Metro. i played a full 64 player match and it's pretty broken. that many players crammed into the subway section is ridiculous
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 01, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
PC and 360 are like two different versions for me. I've played a bit of the 360 beta and PC alpha/beta. I want to get this on PC but won't be simply cause the player base isn't there with my friends. Cheap ass mofo's who won't update their computers.

So far the only thing I hate the most is the glitchy geometry on the console version. Its so easy to get under the map and kill its not funny. PC plays like a dream and is so frenetic and makes you feel accomplished if you tear it up and get a nice streak going. Also 300 for sneak kill's vs 100 on consoles.

How many of you are getting it on PC?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 01, 2011, 05:22:19 PM
I too got BFBC2 on all three platforms. I'm still debating about PC though as I barely played BFBC2 on pc. Yes to star wars on frostbite though. Hell I'd go for a star trek mod too!

Guess I'll buy it for both, it can't hurt!

And yes PS3 is the weakest link
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 01, 2011, 05:31:28 PM
if you get this on anything other than a PC than sorry, you lose.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: FatalT on October 01, 2011, 05:44:11 PM
After playing the PC version for about 2 hours or so, I'm not really a fan. The server joining interface is fucking terrible. The gameplay itself is somewhat enjoyable but it's just too off-putting for me to want to buy it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 01, 2011, 10:43:03 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/bf32011-10-0119-50-57-5uxf.jpg)

shotgun + tactical light = blinding death.

it's like fucking the enemy with god's shining dick.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on October 01, 2011, 11:36:57 PM
flashlight is trolling to the max
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 01, 2011, 11:58:10 PM
the flashlight is a cool mechanic but needs to be balanced badly

one round earlier I ran out of ammo and only had my pistol w/flashlight against two guys coming down these stairs.  I turned it on, ran out and got them both as they sprayed the area trying to find me.  people don't realize you can turn them or laser sights off.  always getting blinded by friendlies.

not including conquest is really a dumb idea.  It's fun, but right now I'm not too eager to play a slower Call of Duty, which is what the beta feel like, compared to a battlefield game.  I have no idea how the 'real' Battlefield 3 multiplayer feels and I'm still not sold on the game.  This is like if the Battlefield 1942 demo was Berlin CTF.  The Wake Island Conquest demo is what sold a lot of people on the game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 02, 2011, 12:06:26 AM
after getting to play Caspian Border (albeit briefly), I know what the "real" multiplayer will be. I'm not worried in the slightest.

Apparently people are also worried about the bugs in the game. I haven't experienced anything major. The few I have were just minor animation issues and they mean nothing to the gameplay. Anyway, every Battlefield has had issues on release. They'll patch it and all will be well.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 02, 2011, 12:39:11 AM
I remember Battlefield 1942 having a pre-release patch
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on October 02, 2011, 05:38:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mfoQW.png)

awesome
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 02, 2011, 08:32:10 AM
That's how it works for all EA games. There's nothing DICE can do about it so don't take it out on them.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 02, 2011, 11:14:05 AM
Played it. Not gonna buy it.

Cod is still more fun.

Another loser game by EA.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 02, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
I went and paid off both MW 3 and BF 3 last week and I think the beta shows a lot of potential for the gameplay of Bf3 (although its very buggy)

That being said it does tickle me a bit to see some of the letdown from this beta as some of the bf 3 fanboys were getting very annoying with their hype.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 02, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
what letdown? everyone who has played conquest caspian border says it's amazing (myself included). nobody hyped Operation Metro Rush because everyone already knew it wasn't very good.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 02, 2011, 01:20:23 PM
caspian border really needed to be an option.  even if it's buggy, it's not like metro isn't buggy too.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 02, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
what letdown? everyone who has played conquest caspian border says it's amazing (myself included). nobody hyped Operation Metro Rush because everyone already knew it wasn't very good.

Wasn't speaking about this board. Was speaking in general Internet terms and in those terms there has been a backlash against that beta. Not that I care or that it changes anything about my buying decision.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 02, 2011, 05:32:56 PM
Finally got a chance to play some on my own 360 at home. My impressions are roughly the same as the PS 3 version. It doesn't look really amazing on either version and its a very unremarkable 30 frames of course on console

Maybe they are saving all the eye-candy for the sp campaign. I thought Crysis 2 looked ordinary in the mp and great in the sp so maybe that will happen here although as I always say Idon't really care about graphics. I generally care more about frame rate.

The game is fun. And I say that for a map I don't really like, and a mode I don't really like, and a buggy ass "beta". When it all clicks and you are in a good squad or a good team, its really fun. There are lots of little complaints I have but this demo is so buggy I'll save that stuff for the actual game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on October 02, 2011, 06:04:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/La9YG.jpg)

saw this on reddit
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 02, 2011, 06:48:33 PM
i'm the only person who ever disarms
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 03, 2011, 01:10:51 AM
that image is very true because teamwork is teflon for these people

on most servers I'm the only one reviving teammates when we're attacking.  tickets, people.  this is why we lose.  hit Q to spot the enemy! provide covering fire! there's a suppression mechanic for that purpose alone.  don't go prone and inch past a corner, trying to snipe the guy; either attempt to spot him so teammates can support you or support them by shooting blindly in the enemy's general location.  don't plant the bomb and run away, you need to defend that shit from close and far range; multiple teammates, not just a squad.

granted, there's no commo rose or proper way to give commands, but still.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 03, 2011, 10:08:03 PM
Played with a party of my friends this evening. The party system is fucked up and broken in the beta but when we were finally able to luck into it working it was pretty fucking awesome. As usual a squad that is actually playing right can wreck shit.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 06, 2011, 12:12:27 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6l4dAHKL-E&feature=feedu[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on October 07, 2011, 04:49:44 AM
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925967583255/ :elephant
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 07, 2011, 03:15:15 PM
(http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00713/Battlefield_3_Octob_713519o.jpg)

(http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00713/Battlefield_3_Octob_713516o.jpg)

(http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00713/Battlefield_3_Octob_713515o.jpg)


Mr. Carmack,where are you?


Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 07, 2011, 03:40:43 PM
holy shit
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 07, 2011, 04:06:53 PM
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 07, 2011, 05:01:39 PM
That looks pretty fuckin good
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 09, 2011, 10:21:03 PM
So the beta ends tomorrow.

I ended up getting to like level 18 or so.


Like I said no point in discussing weapon balancing and stuff like that. I'm assuming nearly all of that will be adjusted for release.

Something that they said they will address but I'm a bit concerned about is hit detection. They claim that will also be addressed but its currently a big problem in the beta. You run around a corner and still get killed. Or you know you hit somebody in a firefight and when you look at the killcam it says they are at 100%. Here is a video that sort of covers the issue. Not really sure why this happening. I thought this was the whole point of dedicated servers. 

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaP5wTYLtQ[/youtube]

Still I've very excited to get the full game later in the month and be able to talk about the actual good stuff and bad stuff.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 10, 2011, 12:30:25 PM
gotdamn dark souls distracted me and I missed out on Caspian Border in the beta.  whatever, I'm buying it in two weeks anyway.

and yeah, hit detection is wonky.  Many previews of the final code sound like a big improvement.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 10, 2011, 12:44:31 PM
You run around a corner and still get killed.

this was also in Bad Company 2.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 10, 2011, 12:50:23 PM
You run around a corner and still get killed.

this was also in Bad Company 2.

It's far worse and more frequent than what ever happened to me in Bad Company 2.

They even specifically address it in their FAQ.

Quote
10. Why is the hit detection seemingly different from Battlefield: Bad Company 2?
The netcode is one of the many things that we are testing as part of the Open Beta and is not necessarily reflective of the final retail game. The DICE team appreciates and has heard the feedback you’ve provided and is further optimizing online play.

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/06/246-dfj-246-dfj.aspx
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 10, 2011, 11:43:39 PM
[youtube=560,345]3P27vnyN8iI[/youtube]

sniper hitting guys from 900 meters.  granted it's the best of this guy, but some of those shots are amazing.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 10, 2011, 11:55:03 PM
Interesting read

tl;dr version: They've changed the damage model back to a Bad Company 2 model. Guns were more lethal in the beta by comparison.

Quote
Last week, I spent some six hours with a not-quite-final-but-close version of Battlefield 3. I think EA and DICE would like for me to talk about the single player but really, I don't have anything more to say about it than I did a few weeks ago. I can't talk about most of the multiplayer maps I played with any specificity, other than the Grand Bazaar level, which, hallelujah, had a tank in it. But at this point, I feel confident in making the following statement:

Releasing a beta for Battlefield 3 might be the biggest mistake EA has made with its biggest game this year.


Or, more specifically, releasing this Battlefield 3 beta has been a spectacular miscalculation on EA's part. It isn't just the technical issues, though those are distressing. DICE has insisted that the open Battlefield 3 beta is very much that: a beta. And I think that if they had released it six weeks earlier, it would be easier to swallow.

DICE has insisted publicly that the beta that released was an old build caught up in the vagaries of console manufacturer certification, but a) most gamers have no idea what that even means, b) most gamers will never see that information, and c) EA and DICE are fully aware of the amount of time it takes to get content through the certification process.

I don't know that we've ever seen a console beta with as many major technical issues as the Battlefield 3 beta; I know that we haven't seen one recently. And whether DICE and EA care to admit it, there's a public expectation that console betas will be more functional than the version of Battlefield 3 being offered now. And DICE has conducted betas on console before, most recently with Battlefield: Bad Company 2, which did not have the myriad technical issues that Battlefield 3 does.

But that's not the main reason that this beta has been a mistake. The main problem with the Battlefield 3 beta – the one that's out right this moment – is that it doesn't play like Battlefield 3 does now, how I assume the final game will play.

There are major gameplay balance differences between the two. Weapons feel different, with different fire rates and recoil. And the damage model has been radically shifted. Death comes quickly in the beta, situated more towards Call of Duty's durability, or even last year's DICE-developed Medal of Honor multiplayer. Firefights in the beta prioritize reflexes over tactics, which is a departure from Bad Company 2.

This is not the case with Battlefield 3 as it is now. The version of Battlefield 3 that I spent hours playing last week has weapons and damage that feel like Battlefield Bad Company 2. This, if you aren't sure, is a good thing. It changes the dynamics of firefights, allowing for each side to take and hold positions, and making flanking and tactical coordination much more viable. The increased player survivability also make vehicles in Battlefield 3 more fair than they would be with the beta's damage models.

Getting the drop on someone isn't the end of a fight in the version of Battlefield 3 I played last week. You have to be persistent, and you have to watch your ass to make sure you aren't left holding your, uh, empty gun in your hand if the guy you murdered has a teammate around the corner.

It leads to more interesting, frantic firefights, including one moment where I killed one enemy with my M4, shot another that came around the corner from the hip, and had to switch to my sidearm to handle yet another opponent a moment later. This happened all the time in Bad Company 2, and it's one of the things that gave it an identity separate from other modern military shooters. Requiring more ammo per kill also makes the support class more important – as you run out of ammo, you'll be looking for that resupply. Battlefield 3 has made machine gunners your source of ammo, which means you'll probably need to fall back to resupply.

It's an example of one change resulting in a cascade of differences in how Battlefield 3 will play when it's released later this month than the beta does now. As it stands now, Battlefield 3's beta is a wellspring of misinformation about what your final Battlefield 3 experience will be. I'm glad for that – I enjoyed what I've played of this more-final build of Battlefield 3 much more than any time I've spent with the game throughout the year. DICE and EA told me last week that they've been taking player feedback from the beta into account, though I have a hard time comprehending how they could make such sweeping changes based entirely on player feedback. But the question is whether or not what EA and DICE have let people at home play early has done more harm than good for Battlefield 3's prospects.

We'll find out soon. Battlefield 3 is scheduled for release on October 25th.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/10/the-beta-and-battlefield-3/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 10, 2011, 11:59:21 PM
there will probably still be a hardcore mode like BC2.  BF3 felt closer to BC2 hardcore (or vanilla CoD) to me.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 11, 2011, 12:01:43 AM
I like the damage model in BC 2 but I was also digging the higher damage model in the beta because it was a change. Of course it was hard to evaluate it because so many guns were overpowered especially the smg's in the beta.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 11, 2011, 05:35:12 AM
that's awesome. one of my complaints had been the fact that death comes far too quickly so changing the damage model to feel more like BC2 is very good news.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 11, 2011, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: twitter
VGZClarity Michael
@Demize99 There's been a few sources saying that the damage from the beta has been lowered significantly. Is this true?
6 hours ago
in reply to @VGZClarity ↑

@Demize99
Alan Kertz
@VGZClarity We fixed a damage bug, the base combat speed is the same.

So sounds like base damage wasn't changed but some damage bugs were fixed.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 17, 2011, 11:06:54 AM
PC version is floating around.

10GB

(http://mp1st.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Repi-600x341.jpg)
 :-X
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 19, 2011, 09:19:03 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqfFfuVuNE[/youtube]


One week away. I bet you the servers don't work the first day on consoles despite the beta and EA is all like the game is so much more popular than we thought so that's why its not working. At least that is what happens every time in Battlefield.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 20, 2011, 08:16:23 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32001366&postcount=16660

 :rofl

Not sure what's dumber. A reviewer who feels the need to come on to a messageboard (and GAF of all places. It's like going down to elementary school to argue with kids) and "defend' himself.

Or game fanboys who can't tolerate the very thought that the game they've dreamed about may have issues.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 21, 2011, 02:07:10 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlWbvYwDtiE&feature=feedu[/youtube]

hmm
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 21, 2011, 09:06:15 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7GVSx7yMaA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 21, 2011, 09:20:42 AM
Best Buy has a 50% trade-in bonus towards this if you preorder before/on the 22nd.  Think I'm gonna pack up Batman and Dead Island, looking at the trade values on the site I'd get 76.50 for the pair, about what I'd clear on ebay after the final value and paypal fees.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 21, 2011, 05:35:46 PM
traded/preordered :rock
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 22, 2011, 11:11:17 AM
console server browser

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=pW9z4OUyDAE[/youtube]


part of first level on 360

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS3u-dQ4n8c[/youtube]


Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 22, 2011, 11:18:49 AM
reminds me of all those "infiltrate the sub/train" missions in the old medal of honor or cod world war 2 games
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on October 22, 2011, 11:56:56 AM
damn, i hate to say it but the 360 version looks kind of rough :(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 22, 2011, 11:58:16 AM
damn, i hate to say it but the 360 version looks kind of rough :(

Did you play the beta? That looked rough.

By comparison that video looked gorgeous.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on October 22, 2011, 12:02:09 PM
yeah i did, but i don't remember seeing the crappy textures that are in that video, i remember the trees in the first area being jaggy as all hell though
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2011, 12:14:53 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npcCvOHF1yU&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 23, 2011, 01:40:43 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fR4CFNxTSD8/TqMPvFEW2TI/AAAAAAAABAc/9BGYMAK-yhI/s1600/WITHOUTHDBF3.png)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F1Be6XD8lCI/TqMPspJVRrI/AAAAAAAABAM/A1INdAff78I/s1600/WITHHDBF3.png)

Quite a difference,hd pack adds some geometry too.

It could be some trollish comparison though,like taking a pic before textures load up.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 23, 2011, 01:52:13 AM
yeah, um, yeah.  I'm skeptical because those are N64 textures.  Or the Wii port.  Either way, EA or DICE shouldn't want any of their audience to think the game looks like that.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 23, 2011, 05:43:42 AM
let's not overreact

it looks fine in this comparison

[youtube=560,345]3HphJIeXwOI[/youtube]



Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
No it doesn't.

No wonder they've been hiding the 360 version.

I hope the 360 version prompts you to download the texture pack when you boot up the game. Otherwise I see a lot of people being very pissed off.

(http://i.imgur.com/OwEEF.jpg)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 23, 2011, 10:11:49 AM
360 version is out so 360 BF3 is all over youtube

favorite comments

"Did you install texture pack?"
"err...No"

"WHY?YOU MUST INSTALL IT!!!!"

"What is this HD pack that people talk about?Were can I get it,can I download it from Live?Is it free?"

haha
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: archie4208 on October 23, 2011, 12:27:52 PM
EA should have included the texture pack as an online pass.  :teehee
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 23, 2011, 12:38:02 PM
Why in the world are they shipping BF3 without the HD textures? :lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 23, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
Why in the world are they shipping BF3 without the HD textures? :lol
Dice did say that non hdd owners will have "standard def" experience.

HD pack is on disc 2(MP disc)

There is more,even if you install both discs on hdd you still have to install hd pack...if you want hd experience

(http://download.gamezone.com/uploads/image/data/870482/bf3discsize.jpg)

Title update is coming soon too

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on October 23, 2011, 02:18:17 PM
biggest install ever?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2011, 02:26:04 PM
biggest install ever?

Quote
Leaked images of early copies of Battlefield 3 installed on the Xbox 360 revealed the highly anticipated shooter is going to take up a whopping 15.5 GB of harddrive space.  As everyone knows by now, Battlefield 3 is shipping on two discs for the Xbox 360, one for the single-player campaign and one for multiplayer.  Also included on the second disc is an optional install for the high resolution textures available for BF3.
 

 
For those who choose to install these hi-res packs -- and judging from the screenshots you're going to want to -- you are looking at a 1.5 GB of space being eaten up.  The single-player disc will install for 6.7 GB on the Xbox hard drive, while the multi-player/co-op disc adds another 7.3 GB install.  Images show the day one update will eat up another 167 MB of space bringing the grand total install size on the Xbox 360 to a massive 15.5 GB.  For those keeping track, this is actually 4 GB more than the PC version of Battlefield 3 which installs at 11.6 GB.  In a recent unboxing video of the Battlefield 3 Limited Edition, it was shown that the PlayStation 3 version of Battlefield 3 will need only 2 GB HDD space.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 23, 2011, 02:28:41 PM
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biggest install ever?

No.

Lost Odyssey and Rage take that crown.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: chronovore on October 23, 2011, 08:55:31 PM
Why in the world are they shipping BF3 without the HD textures? :lol
(http://i.imgur.com/OwEEF.jpg)

1.5GB on a standard DVD is sizable. You're going to see a lot more cross-platform games using downloadable packs to make up for the lack of storage, compared to Blu-Ray and PC HDD.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: brob on October 23, 2011, 09:16:05 PM
"For those keeping track, this is actually 4 GB more than the PC version of Battlefield 3 which installs at 11.6 GB."

 :lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 23, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
Why in the world are they shipping BF3 without the HD textures? :lol
(http://i.imgur.com/OwEEF.jpg)

1.5GB on a standard DVD is sizable. You're going to see a lot more cross-platform games using downloadable packs to make up for the lack of storage, compared to Blu-Ray and PC HDD.

The pack is on the disc.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 23, 2011, 10:50:36 PM
The answer is simple: The xbox 360 is a giant piece of shit so if you wnat to expect future great gaming expeditions then don't buy for that shitbag console
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: chronovore on October 23, 2011, 10:54:40 PM
The pack is on the disc.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLL.

OK, it's just a texture streaming issue, then. Still. Wow.  (lol)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 23, 2011, 11:22:54 PM
The pack is on the disc.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLL.

OK, it's just a texture streaming issue, then. Still. Wow.  (lol)
It's on the disc 2(MP disc),so the size has some impact but this is primarily a streaming issue.Few months ago(2-3) their lead programmer said that they have big problems in making their streaming tech work on non hdd 360.I guess they ran out of time...

Pack contains not just textures,hi res meshes are there too.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 24, 2011, 03:05:04 AM
Leaked score was fake,but the review was legit


Real review
9/10
http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1210387p1.html (http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1210387p1.html)

more


GT: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/pc...field-3/722936
GI: http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield_3/b/pc/archive/2011/10/24/review.aspx
Joystiq: http://t.co/1ZVyBO2r
Gamespy: http://t.co/tK7pb4Sg
http://www.1up.com/reviews/battlefield-3-PC


PC reviews only,console reviews should come "later this week"...i wonder why,hehe
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 24, 2011, 05:48:46 AM
HYPE
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 24, 2011, 09:43:16 AM
Swedes are not pleased easily :P

http://www.gamereactor.se/recensioner/29619/Battlefield+3/ (http://www.gamereactor.se/recensioner/29619/Battlefield+3/)
8/10


oh and

tweet from Dice "rendering architect"
Quote
When playing #BF3 on Xbox 360, please do install the HD pack for high-res textures & meshes, that's how the game is meant to be played

heh

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: brob on October 24, 2011, 09:51:25 AM
Criticisms from Sweden include 'single player is lacking' and 'few proper, big multi-player maps'

At the bottom there is a second opinion from another dude who gives it 9/10 and echos the first dude's criticisms of the single player.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 24, 2011, 09:52:02 AM
i have gone from being indifferent to really looking forward to it

i started remembering all the crazy and fun times i had with bf1942, how with the bf games you don't have to be a killing machine to still have a blast playing
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 24, 2011, 01:34:27 PM
Does this game support Flight Sticks and is it still a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow race to who gets the jets first?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on October 24, 2011, 01:53:16 PM
you can bypass the release date check on boot by doing the following:

Quote
Control Panel -> Internet Options -> LAN Settings -> Proxy server checkbox -> Advanced

Put this IP in the field provided (8000 is the port, but it should figure that out automatically)
Activate the game, then go ahead and turn off the VPN, all you are doing is tricking the authentication, battlelog seems to work fine.

220.118.19.148:8000

after authentication, you can revert back to old settings again

worked for me, playing the single player now  :)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on October 24, 2011, 05:10:59 PM
damn the pc download is 11gbs

anyway nobody should care about the single player for this game
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 24, 2011, 07:42:09 PM
single player isn't that bad.

I can run the game on all high at like 30 fps wit htextures on ultra. I think I might get a new video card, which one you guys reccomend
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on October 24, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
bang for buck id say radeon 6850/6870
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 24, 2011, 07:50:19 PM
i have a 6850 right now. I was looking at GeForce 560 TI. the 6850 is ok, I like it but I have some money to spend after winning a bet. Should I even do graphics card or go with more ram (4 gigs)? I just built this PC in february so I have the cpu that was before sandy bridge because it was recalled whe nI built it :piss
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 24, 2011, 07:51:18 PM
why hasnt amazon shipped my game yet. why are you going this to me amazon?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 24, 2011, 07:57:52 PM
NEVERMIND IT SHIPPED
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on October 24, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
playin it~ thx korean proxies!

DICE/reviewers were not lying when they said the beta and this are like night and day

seriously, the weps sound a million times better. Explosions everywhere. The netcode isnt teleporty and shit now, etc etc

get hype
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 24, 2011, 09:22:40 PM
SO HYPE
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: FatalT on October 24, 2011, 09:37:19 PM
I'm picking this up tonight at midnight for 360 from Gamestop and trading in games to get it. I'll pick it up on PC when EA gets their head out of their asses and put it on Steam (when it's a weekend deal or Christmas deal for like 50% off :)).
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Shuri on October 24, 2011, 09:41:06 PM
god damn, those 320gb hard drives better come out soon! I'm running a 4gb slim + a random usb hd right now; its ghettotastic..
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 24, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
mfw Battlefield 3's jet level on the ocean starts  :o

game is fucking gorgeous. I have it on ultra now and getting like 30 fps. its so amazin.g That level just blew my fucking mind. Couldn't get the multiplyaer to work though :qq want to use my flight stick.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 24, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
mfw Battlefield 3's jet level on the ocean starts  :o

game is fucking gorgeous. I have it on ultra now and getting like 30 fps. its so amazin.g That level just blew my fucking mind. Couldn't get the multiplyaer to work though :qq want to use my flight stick.

Tell me how the  servers look when you get mp working.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 24, 2011, 10:58:36 PM
got into a game but started micro stuttering and didn't even get to kill anyone  :'(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on October 25, 2011, 12:22:37 AM
anyway nobody should care about the single player for this game

i care about the single player for this game, mw3 too, they both look bangin'
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 12:40:19 AM
Picked it up at Gamestop. I've preordered games but never went to a midnight launch. It was much more organized than I expected. It went really quick.

Apparently the MP on consoles doesn't get turned on until 3 A.M. EST so I'll probably play the singleplayer tonight.

edit: or maybe not. I see people on my friends list playing conquest on Caspian Border.

2nd edit: on second thought they may be in a european time zone.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 25, 2011, 12:58:05 AM
any mp impressions, Green Man? I'm kind of tempted. I'd imagine I'd have to run it on good settings due to my cpu, which isn't a problem
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 12:58:45 AM
When do the karkand maps go live?



Blogs say a month after the release of the game although I can't find that on the EA blog.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: FatalT on October 25, 2011, 01:40:39 AM
So far it's been a blast on the 360. I played for about an hour and now I'm gonna install the disc for the single player and then head to bed. Woo!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 03:46:44 AM
Played for a few hours both some MP and SP.


The SP so far seems meh but I'm early. So far it takes a lot of cues from COD but much like MOH to me it puts it in a boring context and isn't as exciting as COD early in. I'll discuss more what I think of it when I get further in. On console the graphics are nice but it comes with a cost and that cost is a ton of screen tearing and a sometimes iffy frame rate. This is probably one of the few games along with crysis where when you play on the consoles you really see the limits of the console technology that is in place in stark relief. This is a next gen engine sort of running on last gen hardware.

The MP seems fun so far. Really big maps on consoles. I wish they had been able to bump the player count on consoles to 32 which would seem about perfect to me. Not really a fan of 64 personally but just a few more people would flesh it out more on consoles. Otherwise its really fun. The controls are better and tighter than they were in BC 2. Too early to sort of say what I like and don't like. Maybe tomorrow when I put a lot more time into it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 25, 2011, 04:19:01 AM
Quote
As some of you may know, the general embargo for publishing Battlefield 3 reviews online expired at 8.01am UK time this morning.
Eurogamer and many other websites only received finished console copies of the game yesterday morning. Our reviewer signed for his at 7am.
There were a few reviews online yesterday based on the PC version of the game. When it became apparent last week that there might be a distinction between timings for PC and console reviews, we asked for PC code but were told none was available. We still haven't been sent a PC copy of Battlefield 3 despite being told it is the leading version.

Throughout the last seven days we've also been told that a day-one patch would be released early this week that was essential to reviewing the game. In the event it turned out to be 167MB on Xbox 360.
Under the circumstances, our review is not ready for this morning's embargo.
However, our reviewer was able to play the game extensively at pre-release hands-on sessions and has been playing pretty much non-stop for 24 hours with the patch installed, so the review will hopefully be ready later today.

Meanwhile, disks are on their way to Digital Foundry so that Rich Leadbetter can put together our PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 face-off for the end of the week.
We don't know exactly why we've been put in a position where we can't review the game at the same time as other websites, but we have asked politely.
We're obviously disappointed by the circumstances, but we don't harbour any ill feeling towards DICE, for whom we have infinite respect and affection, and we won't let any of this nonsense cloud our analysis of a game we're really excited to finally play.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 04:22:27 AM
Yeah EA did a lot of weird shady stuff both in their marketing and in their rollout of this game concerning reviews. I guess they felt they had to play all these weird mind games to try to compete with Call of Duty and get that big upfront rollout but it makes them look very odd. Not that they especially care.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 25, 2011, 05:49:49 AM

October 25, 2011    05:30:00 AM    Buffalo NY US    Out for delivery



 :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg :omg
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: maxy on October 25, 2011, 08:39:42 AM
Console review(360)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-25-battlefield-3-review-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-25-battlefield-3-review-review)

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Shame, then, that the overall package is marred by a me-too campaign, filled with hollow bombast, and a co-op mode that feels undercooked.

Those who buy the game for multiplayer likely won't care that these elements aren't up to par, but what stings most is the thought of what DICE could have done to evolve and expand its multiplayer design skills if the mantra of "BEAT COD" hadn't been drummed so relentlessly into the development process. Battlefield didn't need to be more like Call of Duty to succeed, it just had to double down on what it was already good at. Hopefully that's a lesson that will be learned by the time Battlefield 4 roars into view.

8/10
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 25, 2011, 08:43:00 AM
Mine shipped from amazon but I didn't get their usual email alerting me to my $20 credit. Did you?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 25, 2011, 08:56:59 AM
Mine shipped from amazon but I didn't get their usual email alerting me to my $20 credit. Did you?

i never get a credit. ever. i buy shit all the time from amazon. i have amazon prime. ffs.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2011, 09:07:29 AM
Quote
If Call of Duty is Bridget Fonda, then Battlefield just became Jennifer Jason Leigh.

 :lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 09:48:25 AM
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-battlefield-3/17-5134/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 25, 2011, 10:43:31 AM
do any of you guys wanna be origin friends so I can have someone ot play with, i promise I don't troll in games
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 11:29:43 AM
This will be my last post on the SP since its not really relevant to this package. Yeah COD has nothing to fear here on that front. EA studios just really struggle in creating those great setpiece moments and action to action levels that drive most fps games. My overwhelming feeling so far is boredom. It's just not especially fun. COD is all bombast and over the top and crazy shit. By comparison here I'm on prozac when I play MOH and this. To be fair MOH was better than this so far. Maybe Respawn will be able to teach the other studios how to design and create really fun stuff on the sp side.

If DICE is going to bother to stick a campaign in these games (I have no problem if they didn't) they need to find their hook. In the same way that the MP is different than COD they need to make their campaign different than COD. At minimum it should be 4 players for one thing. They should go for the squad aspect and really do something different because their current approach isn't working. That jet level is a perfect example. You keep waiting for the cool bit to ever come and it never does. It's like they focus on the boring part of a war movie.

That being said of course nobody in their right mind is going to pick up this game for SP but when you put something that mediocre in your game its going to hurt them in the reviews. They could have put in a 4 player horde mode as the campaign and that would have probably been a better use of time.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2011, 11:41:33 AM
My origin username is HondoCochise
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
i do not understand why it is downloading stuff when i bought the game on disc

wtf origin

wtf ea

wtf
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: chronovore on October 25, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
Quote
If Call of Duty is Bridget Fonda, then Battlefield just became Jennifer Jason Leigh.

 :lol

Does that mean this game gets its tits out for Rutger Hauer?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2011, 11:50:04 AM
 :drool
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2011, 12:26:06 PM
i wouldn't rate this game higher than an 8/10 just for the simple fact that you have to log in to a goddamned web browser to play it

what a bunch of bullshit
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: brob on October 25, 2011, 12:31:55 PM
Is that true for the single player as well? as in no off-line play?

>:(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 25, 2011, 12:38:20 PM
i do not understand why it is downloading stuff when i bought the game on disc

wtf origin

wtf ea

wtf

no different then if it's a steamworks game
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: demi on October 25, 2011, 12:38:26 PM
Mine shipped from amazon but I didn't get their usual email alerting me to my $20 credit. Did you?

i never get a credit. ever. i buy shit all the time from amazon. i have amazon prime. ffs.

Cause they never give credit for PC versions. Loser.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on October 25, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 25, 2011, 12:42:06 PM
I can't kill anyone in multiplyaer. It fucking sucks. Why do I have to be so bad,.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2011, 01:20:14 PM
man, this is a really pretty game

running high settings on an msi gtx 460 cyclone, getting anywhere from mid-70s to mid-40s fps, never drops below 45, averages in the mid-50s

might try ultra next just to see my sept 2010 purchase become slowly obsolete
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 25, 2011, 02:57:40 PM
this game is frustratingly shit in single player. You infiltrate a bank and at one point you and your ai buddy are standing on like a veranda. Your AI Buddy is literally standing and not getting hit or killed, nor is he killing anyone. The second you get up from laying ass up you get lit up and die. It's fuckign distinguished mentally-challenged.

UGH
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 25, 2011, 03:47:26 PM
anyone install from disc yet? it seems like it's going to download it through origin....


edit: nvm. origin was just being dumb
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 25, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
Why did I supposedly get a dozen dog tags and I can't use any of them?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 25, 2011, 04:14:30 PM
Why did I supposedly get a dozen dog tags and I can't use any of them?

Edit your profile on the battlelog site
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 04:28:28 PM
Two minor gripes.

Why didn't that fix the issue where you can't quit in the post game lobby. You have to wait for the next game to load before you can quit like in Bad Company 2.

Also I wish I could create discreet custom class slots like in COD instead of always having to muck with the options during my wait for respawn screen. I would like to set up a few discreet classes I could switch to by just scrolling and not having to fiddle with that sub menu.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 25, 2011, 05:03:09 PM
The battlelog site.totally works.on my phone. Awesome.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 25, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
my origin: ceebeegeebee
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 25, 2011, 06:28:35 PM
Two minor gripes.

Why didn't that fix the issue where you can't quit in the post game lobby. You have to wait for the next game to load before you can quit like in Bad Company 2.

Also I wish I could create discreet custom class slots like in COD instead of always having to muck with the options during my wait for respawn screen. I would like to set up a few discreet classes I could switch to by just scrolling and not having to fiddle with that sub menu.

Agreed, especially since the classes are all muddled now.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 06:51:02 PM
lulz. Worked for me last night and earlier today but now that I try to play when people are getting home, can't connect to EA servers and stuck on loading screen.


What a surprise.    8)

edit: seems to be working now. Maybe EA learned from past battlefield launches.

2nd edit: And down again  :yuck

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 25, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
I played the game for an hour and experienced 2 dropped games during loading and a hard freeze of the console. the party system is shit btw, even Resistance 2 was better. Customizing your character is kind of a pain in the ass too. Aside from the lack of presets, the game has lots of "cool" visual noise that occurs when you switch guns and it takes too many buttons to do it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 08:05:52 PM
the party system is shit btw,

Yeah I'm noticing that now. It's splitting up the parties on separate teams and its hard to figure out how to join specific squads.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 25, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
I cannot join a fucking match without a server error. Fuck this piece of shit.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 25, 2011, 09:46:53 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/25/psa-xbox-360-battlefield-3-servers-are-down-ea-aware/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 25, 2011, 09:51:37 PM
this is bad company 2 with battlefield 2 style games.

pretty much exactly what i wanted.

also knifing is much better in retail. gonna see if i can get to 1k knife kills again
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 25, 2011, 09:55:03 PM
single player seems ok.

i really enjoyed the plane mission up until it went all COD4 ac-130 mission on me.

probably won't bother with it much more.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 25, 2011, 11:01:47 PM
Played a healthy number of games tonight. The server performance was off and on. Sometimes the servers were down. Sometimes it would dump us from games etc. I assuming this is the typical launch day jitters that every big mp game has but still after all EA's talk about how the beta was specifically to address these issues its annoying.

The party system is also just as borked as it was in the beta. Sometimes the people in your party don't get into the game. Often they are put on the opposite team. They almost never are put in the same squad as you. Another thing that EA claimed the beta would fix and didn't. And leaving and joining squads to get with your party members is confusing. weird menu layout there.

As far as the gameplay its as enjoyable as I expected when everything is working. The game has a different feel to it than bad company. I kinda think I like the maps from BC 2 better though. The maps in BF 3 are really uneven. Some are good and then some just don't work imo. It's also very easy to spawn trap on some of them.

Now I just have to work at unlocked all the stuff. I feel like I'm not really playing the game for real until I have all the stuff I need for the classes. In that sense the unlock system is more annoying than in a cod game because the cod unlocks feel like extra. Some of the battlefield classes are worthless until you unlock some of the stuff you need.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 26, 2011, 01:20:11 AM
what the fuck.  I thought not letting you bind mouse buttons (and other bindings) was a dumb, stupid, dumb glitch from the beta.  but it's actually intended? what?

I feel like I'm missing something here.  this can't be right. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 26, 2011, 01:51:19 AM
wow, single player is really call of duty.  I'm supposed to stand in this parking lot and shoot arabs or something.  I notice they're all jumping over this one wall, so I walk around the wall and a message pops up saying "DON'T LOOK BACK HERE OR DIE IN 5 SECONDS."  I go back, and the arabs are still jumping over.  Like, why don't I just shoot them before they jump over the wall, right? but no, it's sacred back there.  it's not even like Call of Duty where you get shot.  Why would you even make a way to go back there?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 26, 2011, 03:04:39 AM
I don't know if this is a good thing, but I like that enemies speak farsi.

man, this is a really pretty game

running high settings on an msi gtx 460 cyclone, getting anywhere from mid-70s to mid-40s fps, never drops below 45, averages in the mid-50s

might try ultra next just to see my sept 2010 purchase become slowly obsolete

I tried ultra on my 560ti and it ran at around 25 to 30 fps compared to about 60+ on high with 2xAA.  Looks incredible but I prefer the smoothness.

also tried it on low for kicks.  it actually looks pretty good on low.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 26, 2011, 05:32:56 AM
what the fuck.  I thought not letting you bind mouse buttons (and other bindings) was a dumb, stupid, dumb glitch from the beta.  but it's actually intended? what?

I feel like I'm missing something here.  this can't be right. 

there are three columns for control mapping. keyboard, mouse, and joystick. you have to map the control under the "mouse" column.

i mapped melee to middle mouse click.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 26, 2011, 01:30:53 PM
what the fuck.  I thought not letting you bind mouse buttons (and other bindings) was a dumb, stupid, dumb glitch from the beta.  but it's actually intended? what?

I feel like I'm missing something here.  this can't be right. 

there are three columns for control mapping. keyboard, mouse, and joystick. you have to map the control under the "mouse" column.

i mapped melee to middle mouse click.

yeah, I think it has something to do with raw mouse input (?).  when I turned it off, it let me bind it.  still can't freely bind the mouse wheel but it's good enough.

I don't know if it's a Frostbite 2 thing, but I really like how changing the graphical settings happens instantly in real time.  Most other games take a few seconds or you're required to restart.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Brehvolution on October 26, 2011, 02:23:29 PM
wow, single player is really call of duty.  I'm supposed to stand in this parking lot and shoot arabs or something.  I notice they're all jumping over this one wall, so I walk around the wall and a message pops up saying "DON'T LOOK BACK HERE OR DIE IN 5 SECONDS."  I go back, and the arabs are still jumping over.  Like, why don't I just shoot them before they jump over the wall, right? but no, it's sacred back there.  it's not even like Call of Duty where you get shot.  Why would you even make a way to go back there?

:rofl
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Raban on October 26, 2011, 02:36:29 PM
wow, single player is really call of duty.  I'm supposed to stand in this parking lot and shoot arabs or something.  I notice they're all jumping over this one wall, so I walk around the wall and a message pops up saying "DON'T LOOK BACK HERE OR DIE IN 5 SECONDS."  I go back, and the arabs are still jumping over.  Like, why don't I just shoot them before they jump over the wall, right? but no, it's sacred back there.  it's not even like Call of Duty where you get shot.  Why would you even make a way to go back there?

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 26, 2011, 08:43:24 PM
when this gAme works right it is literally amazing. I was standing in the middle of a road when all of a sudden two of my team planes crashed alongside me and then a enemy helicopter did. I somehow managed to live. I was like "HOLY SHIT THIS GAME RULES" then I got ran over by a jeep.


BATTLEFIELD :bow
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 26, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
Servers were solid today. This evening. Played a lot. Had a ton of fun. I think FatalT joined my squad a couple of times. I tried one of the co-op missions. Its simple stuff but I actually liked it. I prefer it to the campaign.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 27, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
when the reviews called this single player mediocre, I guess that's coming from people who love Call of Duty campaigns.  BF3 feels like a parody of the Call of Duty games.  I can't believe it's actually serious.  BC2 was linear but opened up shoots outs to feel different.  BF3 is a few steps above Gameloft in shamelessly copying other games.

The jet mission goes like--
Interrogator guy: "what do you know about blah blah"
Dishdetergent: "what?"
*random jet mission*
Dish: "what?"
Interrogator: "shut up.  NOW TELL US ABOUT THE NUMBERS."

the missions are walking down a straight path, shooting enemies, then waiting for someone to open a door, or just waiting in general.  there's a lot of waiting and watching nonsensical tom clancy fanfiction.  t...the russians a...and..nukes? yeah, nukes...b..brown people...this is gonna be so hot.

at least it looks crazy good

edit:  I should specify, they're copying gameplay wholesale from Call of Duty 4.  The story is the wank from MW2 and Black Ops, but stuff like endlessly respawning enemies all up in this game.  I saw an enemy materialize out of thin air and run to the same spot as this guy I shot.

maybe it gets better.  I dunno.  I'm at the tank mission and grabbed my iphone because I remember this shit from E3..a whole lot of waiting.  So far this is the worst shooter campaign I've played since, uh, Resistance 2 or The Conduit.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 27, 2011, 12:08:36 AM
The story concept is very similar to Black Ops which is probably just bad luck on the timing for them. The problem with campaign is simply that the scripting is either broken in some cases, poorly constructed in others, and just boring in others. Much like MOH its everything you've seen in a COD game but done worse. The quick time events in this game are probably the worse use of quick time I've ever seen in a game. It's completely pointless and off time. You're just watching animations and then for some reason hitting a button during the animation.

To give it some credit it does pick up. The first few missions are completely awful. The missions after that have been mediocre.


I tried one of the co-op missions and simply playing with some one else and removing the need to actually script stuff in a story format mostly improves the experience although its also nowhere as good as something like Spec Ops in Modern Warfare.


(https://slytherin.su/up/guyswait.gif)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 27, 2011, 12:53:17 AM
that gif is funny.  well I'm hoping it picks up.  really, the only real strength is how good it looks, and it looks really good.

random observation: the subtitles aren't entirely accurate for the PLR are saying

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 27, 2011, 01:08:51 AM
What guns are people liking in MP so far?

I'm digging the M416 AR right now and the M27 IAR LMG

The recon class seems to have been nerfed from BC 2 where they were super powerful with their motion mines and air strikes. I find myself either playing support or engineer the most. Both classes can deal with enemy vehicles which seem more prevalent than in BC 2.


Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 27, 2011, 03:15:11 AM
ok, the campaign is bad and a waste of time.  I'm filled with regret because I could have spend those hours doing anything else.  other than how gorgeous everything looked, it's one of the dullest games I've ever played.

at least if you're going to copy call of duty, improve on it or something.  better yet, design a campaign to emphasize battlefield's strengths.  medal of honor airborne is a good starting point.

is co-op even worth checking out? or straight into multiplayer to realize why I spent money on this
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 27, 2011, 03:28:56 AM
The main reason to probably play those co-op missions is that there are six unlockable weapons in the mp for it that can't be gotten any other way.

MP412 Rex (Revolver)
KH2002 (Assault Rifle)
M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle (Semi auto Sniper, think M14 EBR)
G3A3 (Assault Rifle)
SG553 (Carbine)
MP7 (Machine Pistol / All kits)
M93R (Burst fire pistol)

It's okay. It's nothing mind blowing or amazing but just playing with another human improves it although you could pretty much say that about any game ever made.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 27, 2011, 05:00:39 AM
it's a bad campaign full stop.  every campaign since modern combat on the xbox, the first real attempt at single player in battlefield, has been better.

The best was probably Bad Company 1.  It has problems, but it was the most interesting and Battlefield feeling.  Bad Company 1 plus improvements plus co-op and they could have something great.  Bad Company 2 went more linear but kept larger firefights and some battlefield personality.  Battlefield 3 campaign has no personality, no excitement, no wit, no nothing.  It's a crass Call of Duty, which is a really stupid statement to make. 

I can't remember the last time I've really disliked a game as much as Battlefield 3's campaign.  HAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 27, 2011, 05:28:58 AM
The main reason to probably play those co-op missions is that there are six unlockable weapons in the mp for it that can't be gotten any other way.


M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle (Semi auto Sniper, think M14 EBR)

....WHAT

this was my main in BC2. i need this
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 27, 2011, 12:32:31 PM
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/thursday-night-throwdown-1027-battlefield-3/3773/

Giantbomb will be playing BF3 tonight on PC for their TNT.

they have a 64 player dedicated server up too
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 27, 2011, 01:28:48 PM
a few people at work and i are looking to setup a dedicated server ourselves. apparently it's 99cents per slot. so a full server would be 63 and change a month.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Crushed on October 27, 2011, 05:44:19 PM
The campaign seems mediocre and by-the-numbers so far but I'm not getting the vitriol towards it unless the last half is the game just punching you in the dick for 2 hours.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 27, 2011, 06:30:09 PM
last half (or like one or two levels) actually get slightly better

I don't know why either.  I like most games I play, but this I hated.  I think it's because DICE's solution to single player in a Battlefield game has become a poor knock off of Call of Duty.  It's like they gave up trying to do anything ambitious or remotely like the multiplayer.  Mostly because I think a single player battlefield experience could be awesome.  In a lot of ways Crysis, MoH Airborne, Bad Company 1, and a few other games are where it should go.  I'm just upset that DICE, creators of best of breed multiplayer shooters and Mirror's Edge, spent any amount of time, budget, or effort on the campaign.

like I said, I'm not exactly sure why I'm angry about it.  I didn't even have any expectations before playing it, and I haven't been following gaf's reaction.  but shit, I can't remember the last time I hated the single player of a game this much.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 27, 2011, 08:00:40 PM
i am fucking terrible at this game, also i hatehatehate level unlocks considering i am only gonna be able to play sporadically and it will take forever to unlock anything

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2011, 12:12:07 AM
I beat the campaign tonight because the multiplayer on 360 was down for a lot of the night. It was bad. Average in some areas. Laughably terrible in others. Worse than BC 2 and MOH by a longshot and its not like those two were titans or anything.

As far as the MP I'm thinking shotguns may be overpowered.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 28, 2011, 10:42:37 AM
anyone know of any good placed to rent a server?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 28, 2011, 10:09:17 PM
this is the first time ive ever wished that the achievements were more multi oriented than single player
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2011, 11:27:14 PM
Anyone up for trying the co-op?

The second mission is so stupid. They make it a helicopter mission but you can't pick who is the gunner and who  flies the chopper. I can't fly at all in Battlefield games. So I have to keep on reloading everytime I play it until I'm the gunner. Fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 29, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
i would play some co-op. just so i can unlock the M14.

so i have ~ 7 hours logged in multiplayer. here's my map rankings (conquest large only)

God Tier:
Grand Bazaar
Caspian Border

Great Tier:
Operation Firestorm
Noshahr Canals

Good Tier:
Kharg Island
Damavand Peak

OK Tier:
Tehran Highway

Shit Tier:
Seine Crossing

SHIT AWFUL Tier:
Operation Metro
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 29, 2011, 09:22:07 PM
I didn't mind metro in the beta, so it's exciting to hear it's the worst.

for people on PC, what are your origin names? I'm wonder if there should be a Bore platoon/squad/thing.  Mine's 'Linkzg' (I think).
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 29, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
Metro is fine for RUSH but as a Conquest map, it's unbelievably awful. It's a 3 capture point map all focused around the subway section. Basically the area around the escalators becomes a literal meat grinder. It's mindless and awful.

In regard to adding each other, better to provide your Battlelog names because that's what is used to join games with each other. Mine is Fistfulofmetal (shock)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on October 29, 2011, 10:04:22 PM
metro conquest is battlefields nuketown

I expect to see 24/7 metro servers any day
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 30, 2011, 01:05:17 AM
I've finished 3 of the co-op missions and unlocked the first two weapons. The co-op missions are "okay" I suppose. You have to grind them though meaning beat them lots of times to unlock all the weapons which is kinda annoying.


As far as the game it can be pretty amazing when everything is working. I had an absolutely intense game today on Seine Crossing on Rush. We were at the last set of M-com's and we were stuck after blowing through the others quite easily. It's in this heavily defensed room and we only had 20 tickets left. I though we had no chance and we were just running in and dying every time.


Amazingly in the end it's armed and I'm sitting in a room with all my teammates and zero tickets left and praying no one dies and we don't lose and for the damn thing to explode. It does and we win. Absolutely amazing fucking match.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/gate/?returnUrl=|bf3|battlereport|show|1865476|2|174919060|
 (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/gate/?returnUrl=|bf3|battlereport|show|1865476|2|174919060|)
Here is the battlereport for it and why I love battlefield. I was only 8 and 13 in the game. Lots of people had better KDR's than me. But my score was almost 2000 points above everybody else in the game because I was arming and blowing up the m-com's. I love that you can contribute greatly to your team and not just have it be with kills.

Rush is so much better in BF 3 than it was was in BC 2 simply because you have to actually arm the M-com's. You can't just drop down the building on them by having a team abusing mortar strikes and shelling the building long distance with tanks. I didn't like playing Rush in BC 2 but its darn fun in this game.

I also like how the recon class has been nerfed hard. So many wannabe snipers are complaining about it but I so hope dice doesn't buff them. The game is really engineer heavy honestly because there are so many tanks, humvee's, and LAV's on most maps.

I think Metro is a good rush map. It's a shit conquest map but that's dice's fault for trying to make every map playable in every mode. They also need to address the lag and rubberbanding that is going on. For what is supposed to be dedicated servers, the connections are often quite sketchy. 



 edit: Also there is tons of sound drop out on the 360 version along with lots of other assorted bugs. You can tell this was rushed at the end.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: FatalT on October 30, 2011, 03:25:52 AM
I beat all 6 of the co-op missions. Of you need help with them let me know!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 30, 2011, 03:33:29 AM
I did the first two co-op missions.  Both were actually pretty fun! shows that adding another human player can make anything a bit more interesting.

first mission felt like black hawk down because my bro and I were dual sniping enemies from a fixed point.

second mission I was gunner for the first two times; both times we lost.  then I became the pilot and we did it in the first try.  they really toss you in with no explanation on how to control the helicopter.  it said "press x for extinguisher" but nothing was happening! a few minutes in it clicked, although an analog controller or flightpad would help.  having to tap to hover and use WSAD/arrow keys is tough.  By the end I was humming the air wolf tune and even started rolling instead of yawing everywhere!

[youtube=560,345]nr_CJL1YQRc[/youtube]

edit:

the entire co-op campaign is pretty fun.  the last mission seems bugged and me and this guy tried twice to finish it.  our characters randomly fall down during a qte or something.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Herr Mafflard on October 30, 2011, 06:04:31 AM
will have to try co-op soon

My battlelog name is InfectedGib.

I love that tight corridors and alleyways become rocket shows in this game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 30, 2011, 11:49:45 AM
battlelog name = HondoCochise
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 30, 2011, 03:06:14 PM
the co-op sniper mission is a pain if the other guy doesn't get the vague ways you're trying to communicate.  there's no text chat for some reason.  I tried to establish several times that when I tag an enemy, it means I'll shoot them.  Or when I purposefully stand on your left, it means I'm going for the left targets.    when it works, it can be pretty awesome.  last night I played with a guy who understood.  like pros we ran through it just sniping pairs of enemies without either realizing what happened.

I also played the helicopter mission with a guy who couldn't fly at all.  After two rounds, I was in the pilot seat and we got through it easily.  in the last ~10 seconds of the mission, after ~10 minutes of flying perfectly, I tried to do a barrel roll and crashed into the ground.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 30, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
OMG that MAV is amazing. Especially if the other team doesn't bother to try to take it out. I completely had the other marked for my team the entire freaking game. '

But  my god the LAG.

Everyday seems worse than the previous one on that front.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 30, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
Grinding these co-op missions to unlock the extra weapons is the fucking worst. Boo Dice. BOO!

 :maf
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 30, 2011, 10:05:52 PM
Picked this up for free with this morning's B1G1 glitch at Target. Might as well get some online action
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 30, 2011, 11:53:43 PM
Mortars need a slight nerf. Either long cool down or limit number of them during one life.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 31, 2011, 09:03:56 AM
Grinding these co-op missions to unlock the extra weapons is the fucking worst. Boo Dice. BOO!

 :maf

I was legitimately surprised when I realized that was the case.  I thought finishing each mission would give you a new weapon, or just on hard.  one weapon for each mission and he last for completing the whole set.  There's hardly a large point difference between playing on easy versus hard; you're meant to grind.  That's such baffling design since the weapons unlocked aren't even for that mode.

I really want to hear DICE explain it.  I don't think anyone could make sense of it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 31, 2011, 11:23:35 AM
I grinded them out all last night until I got the weapons. Very boring and annoying.







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Following a number of problems affecting the online functionality of EA’s chart-topping shooter, the publisher has said it can at last see the light at the end of the tunnel.
 

Speaking by email to Kotaku about early online teething problems, EA said the majority of its Battlefield 3 servers had been stable over the past weekend.
 
“We are happy to report that PS3 and PC players experienced server stability all weekend, and Xbox 360 servers are at 95 percent and climbing. There were a number of different factors that impacted server connectivity across the platforms. Regardless of the cause or platform, our Online teams are standing by to identify the issues and addressed them as they arise. We will not rest until we’re at 100 percent.”
 
PC versions of Battlefield 3 had problems with the anti-cheat software Punkbuster, though these have apparently been rectified, whilst EA’s digital service Origin contributed some issues of its own.
 
“In the first 48 hours of launch, a small amount of Battlefield 3 PC players using Origin experienced an authentication issue,” the spokesperson said. “This is a known issue which has now stabilized. We continue to monitor the situation and are standing by to quickly resolve any future issues that might arise.”
 
Although a number of Battlefield players have experienced problems regardless of format, it’s Xbox 360 players that appear to have been worst hit. The EA spokesperson that responded to Kotaku’s questions acknowledged “There are a number of different factors impacting server connectivity on Xbox 360. It is a particularly complex server architecture and we continue to work with Microsoft to improve connectivity.”
 
It seems, though, that a significant contributor to many of the problems since launch is sheer weight of numbers.
 
“With such huge interest in the game, demand outstripped even our best expectations coming out of the beta,” admitted EA. “This is an evolving process that we are committed to improving. Even with a successful beta, systems under load will reveal new opportunities for optimization and improvement. When we see those opportunities, we would rather move immediately and create short-term inconvenience (maintenance period) to improve the long-term experience for all players.”

“We believe that the major issues are behind us, but our Online teams will not be happy until we’re at 100%. We continue to work on solving for each issue.”

Also this is bullshit. I still get disconnected and the lag is still bad (and worse than bc 2) most of the time at least on 360.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on October 31, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
theoretically, you can unlock all the weapons by repeatedly playing the first co-op level on easy.  you don't even need to finish the first co-op level since you still get experience for failing.

it's not about encouraging people to play co-op at all.  it's just grinding for experience.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 31, 2011, 11:26:25 AM
Mortars need a slight nerf. Either long cool down or limit number of them during one life.

holy christ do they ever

i was playing a game the other day and thought it was some kind of scripted natural disaster
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 31, 2011, 11:32:06 AM
theoretically, you can unlock all the weapons by repeatedly playing the first co-op level on easy.  you don't even need to finish the first co-op level since you still get experience for failing.

it's not about encouraging people to play co-op at all.  it's just grinding for experience.

I just played the hit and run mission over and over again because its fast and easy. I still haven't played the last two missions yet.


Mortars need a slight nerf. Either long cool down or limit number of them during one life.

holy christ do they ever

i was playing a game the other day and thought it was some kind of scripted natural disaster

In rush its really bad because the person can just sit in his spawn and launch them on a smaller map and shell the m-com and you can't kill him. You have to have counter mortar people to stop him but either people are too dumb to do this or they haven't unlocked it yet at this early stage. But yeah either way it needs a nerf.

I also miss the throwable motion sensors from BC 2. They were a great device to root out campers. With the addition of prone,  the amount of people camping around the map is noticably higher now than in BC 2. (I'm not couting the people who play sniper recon dude who will always camp)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: ZephyrFate on October 31, 2011, 03:50:04 PM
I need this game in my asshole. I just... just need the money  :'(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on October 31, 2011, 04:56:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XXGi5_z03U

boost away, brethren
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 31, 2011, 11:25:42 PM
I've put in about 15 hours now in the mp. I enjoy it a lot. A whole bunch. But I'm surprised at how much honestly that I think its kinda no better than BC 2. Im fact in a lot of ways I think BC 2 was better although clearly BF 3 is better in others. So it ends up as kinda a push.

Like the basic feel of the combat is way better than in BC 2 which felt too heavy. But in other ways I kinda think BC 2 knew what it was more than BF 3 does. BF 3 has lots of highs and lots of lows because it feels like its trying to appeal to everybody at all times. A map like Metro especially in conquest is clearly sort of a nod to Call of Duty but it sort of feels weird in battlefield like it doesn't fit. At least in conquest. There are other things that sort of feel pointless in the game. Like Jets. Maybe they are incredibly important in the PC version with the higher player count but they are utterly useless in the console version. I've never been killed by one. All they really seem to function as is atmosphere as I see them flying overhead and not having any real impact on the battle. The maps are also sort of pointlessly big on consoles. Once again this probably feels different on the PC with 32 and 64 on some maps but it seems like I barely actually fight. Or on some maps things are so tank heavy or vehicle heavy that playing anything other than an engineer is pointless. I feel like BC 2 had a better flow. All the classes felt more necessary and I didn't feel boxed into playing only one class on a lot of maps. The maps just have an odd flow to them. Like I wish I could be playing some BC 2 maps just with this new combat engine.

Don't want to give the impression that I don't enjoy the MP. I really do. A lot. Just surprised it wasn't the slam dunk over BC 2 that I was expecting. And to be fair I could do a list of things that I much prefer in BF 3 over BC 2. For instance just moving the m-com's outside of collapsible building fixes what was an essentially broken mode in BC 2.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2011, 01:46:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dZ6VtgjOtE
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: FatalT on November 01, 2011, 01:57:06 AM
Add FatalT on Xbox Live. I WANNA GET SOME BORE MULTI IN!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 01, 2011, 08:25:03 PM
the knife kills in this game are soooooooooo satisfying. words cannot properly explain. i just went on a 10 kill streak knife only.

if anyone remembers i posted a little screenshot tour of a Bad Company 2 game a while back. thinking of doing that again.

still the top Battlefield player on this forum  8)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 01, 2011, 08:35:41 PM
being better than everyone else at playing the game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on November 01, 2011, 10:27:57 PM
i do pretty good when servers arent lagging
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on November 01, 2011, 10:29:37 PM
actually my k/d is an exact 1.0 right now, I gotta step up
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/RocketSurgery/stats/176670584/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 01, 2011, 10:46:31 PM
Tehran Highway is fucking broken when it comes to Lag and rubberbanding.


And Damavand Peak on Conquest is becoming a spawn trap nightmare.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 02, 2011, 03:41:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_JIKrjs5IY
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: SantaC on November 02, 2011, 04:38:18 PM
Tehran Highway is fucking broken when it comes to Lag and rubberbanding.


And Damavand Peak on Conquest is becoming a spawn trap nightmare.

yes dice is patching the tehran highway map.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on November 02, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
i played 64 tehran last night and imo i think they have improved it with a serverside patch
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: bachikarn on November 02, 2011, 06:22:35 PM
Am I crazy for getting this on x360 instead of PC? I have a PC that can run it on high/maybe ultra, but my friends got the x360 version, and I don't know anyone who has it for PC.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 02, 2011, 06:40:25 PM
Pro-Tip: Infared Scopes are crazy op. No real counter to them as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: FatalT on November 02, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
Am I crazy for getting this on x360 instead of PC? I have a PC that can run it on high/maybe ultra, but my friends got the x360 version, and I don't know anyone who has it for PC.

No. I picked it up for Xbox 360 because that's what my buddy was getting it on. After seeing all the problems the PC is facing and dealing with the crappy server browser for PC in the beta, I'm happy with my purchase.

HAVE AT IT!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 02, 2011, 07:01:29 PM
sorry, you made a poor purchasing decision. there's nothing wrong with the pc version. it's clearly the superior version.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 02, 2011, 07:06:07 PM
other than thinking the web browser-based login is stupid and hating level unlocks, i haven't had a single problem with it

no crashes (one or two server disconnects), runs better than i expected to be honest

you can even use a 360 controller if you want to torture yourself (although it's great for aircraft and land vehicles)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 02, 2011, 10:49:19 PM
5 free dog tags for watching some shitty trailer.

http://actofvalor.com/bf3/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 03, 2011, 09:51:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBFaHVux8Ro

 :lol

Infared scopes are so broken. I've seen the term predator vision used and that's exactly what it is. You can just pick out anybody on the map at pretty much any distance and recognize them immediately. Which is a huge deal because in this game players camp so much and its really hard to spot them anyway as they tend to blend into the background and there are all those visual effects like bright sunglight, etc. And there really is no counter. There is no "cold-blooded" perk ala COD to beat it and the gun doesn't handle poorly because of the scope via sway or anything. I get what they were going for because prone and camping can be very annoying but honestly I feel like I'm at a disadvantage unless I use it even though I kinda feel dirty about constantly using it. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 03, 2011, 11:52:46 AM
yeah, unlocks and perks have pretty much ruined mp shooters
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 03, 2011, 12:00:54 PM
I don't think its the fact that its an unlock. Because when they test the game on their end I'm sure everything is unlocked already. It's the fact that there isn't really a counter for it.

But then that's what post release support is for. I honestly think its impossible to launch anything in a perfectly balanced state. Even so called competitive games go through constant iteration changes.

edit: And the idea of perks honestly is what finally drew me big time into shooters. One of my big turn offs in the old days of mp shooters was that everybody was the same. I don't like that. I like the idea that I play differently than someone else and I can adapt the gameplay mechanics to more suit the style that I play. Of course this is more complicated on the balancing side than everybody being the same so more work is required if there is any hope at all for balancing some of that stuff.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 03, 2011, 12:34:11 PM
They've made the games fairly inaccessible to pick-up-and-play occasional gamers like me, though.  In BF1942 I could miss a month of playing and still do just fine when I went back to it, because everyone wasn't running around with nuclear briefcases they'd unlocked by gaining 30 levels while I was gone.

I don't really play all that much COD, but I guess I can see it adding to the fun there since it's a basically a straight run and gunner with smaller maps. I liked the kit idea fine in older BF games because it was a different style of game.  If you wanted to switch up roles during a match you could just pick up a kit lying in the spot someone was killed, or change up while you were waiting to respawn. Everyone sort of had their own role to play, and I always thought it was good balance. The maps were huge, you could fly or drive anywhere, get into tank battles/dogfights, etc.  I just don't understand why someone would think that was boring without the addition of an unlockable red dot sight or underslung grenade launcher, and can't just be satisfied with being a good medic/engineer/soldier/scout. I was never a terrific player in BF1942, but stayed around the upper half of the end of match ranking just from doing my particular "job." It still retains some of that feeling, and there are still some crazy moments, but for the most part I bought what I thought was a Battlefield game and got a COD game with larger maps.

And some of the unlocks are just flat out bullshit to begin with, like having to level up a plane to gain anti-missile flares. So they're basically asking you to die a bunch until you get something to ward off missiles. Doesn't make sense.

So I've started playing on some practice servers (ones that aren't just labeled that as a noob trap), just to level up quickly enough so that I can stand even a sliver of a chance against shit like infrared scopes and the DEATHISTATOR 5000X or whatever someone gets at level 50.

Grinding? In my Battlefield? It's more likely than you think.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 03, 2011, 12:47:32 PM
I agree the system doesn't work as well in battlefield because they lock stupid shit that is sort of essential to the team based nature of the game. Like medics not having defibs. Or jets or choppers not having flares. Stuff like that is dumb and is just put in there for the sake of having more unlocks.

I personally wouldn't mind if all the stuff was unlocked from the get go but you still had all the different options and perks to play how you want. But I guess DICE thinks that they have to have all those unlocks to compete with COD. (And to be fair maybe they do. I've noticed casuals really like "unlocking" stuff)

It's the freedom that I like to customize myself in a shooter. Not the grind of getting that stuff. I don't like it in COD either which is why I never prestige in that game anymore.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 03, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
calling bullshit on your claim this is 'COD with larger maps'. your reasoning is basically just that there's an unlock system. that makes no sense bro. unlocks and ranking have been around since BF2 and people were complaining about it then too. If you just wanted BF1942 again than play BF1942 again. it's not terribly active but there are still servers going.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 03, 2011, 01:10:23 PM
did you see that video

what chance does anyone have against something like that until they've unlocked it themselves, they're just gonna have a miserable time playing whenever anyone with one of those things is on the opposing team

(i never played BF2, i was sort of out of PC gaming by the time that came around)

i wouldn't have a problem with it that much if everything were available at the beginning and you could customize at will, as stoney said - then the onus would be on you to choose wisely according to match conditions

of course anyone who plays it a great deal is probably going to love unlocks because, well, they're unlocking prizes for points like a carnival midway game

but like i said, it makes the game pretty inaccessible to someone like me who only plays a couple of times a week, since you're not just up against people with much higher skill sets, they also have much more powerful weapon loadouts
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 03, 2011, 01:45:57 PM
I prefer what Counter-Strike did over persistent unlocks, but I thought Black Ops had a pretty good system because it had experience and currency working towards unlocking stuff.  In general perks and unlocks are a nice concept because it's essentially building your own class and specialization.  The problem is in most cases how it becomes either unbalanced or feels like a grind to become an able combatant.

Battlefield games are worse at it (funny because BF2 kinda started it).  I still find it baffling how basic medic equipment is locked out until you kill or slowly heal enough.  Support classes shouldn't have to take an active combat role to become a capable at, uh, supporting.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Boogie on November 03, 2011, 08:10:04 PM
Bought it Monday, haven't played much due to work:

SP:  yep, pretty boring, as already stated.  That first F-18 mission can die in a fire.  Also, is it just me, or are the QTEs for this game fucking maddening?  Gawdamn I feel like I have to replay every one a dozen times before I magically find the right timing to not fucking die.

MP: haven't played much yet, just a few games on a server that was laggy as fuck.  Was fun, but something seemed "off" compared to the awesomeness of BF2 (haven't played a BF game since then)

but gawdamn if it isn't the prettiest game of forever.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on November 03, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
but like i said, it makes the game pretty inaccessible to someone like me who only plays a couple of times a week, since you're not just up against people with much higher skill sets, they also have much more powerful weapon loadouts

Which is why TF2 is so great. You can stop playing for 12 months and you can jump right back in, and any new item is just for a different playstyle.

Grinding for unlocks that should be available from level 1 is distinguished mentally-challenged. No wonder BF3 was still behind Black ops last week on Xbox Live.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 04, 2011, 02:44:08 AM
To be fair though only crazy people or fanboys thought it would take down COD. Although with the sort of obnoxious way EA marketed the game, falling behind both COD games one of which is 2 years old is a kind of just deserts.

Finally unlocked the F2000 tonight. Wanna give that a go tomorrow. People say its OP so I want to give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 04, 2011, 01:26:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyN_Zjw4l-s
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 04, 2011, 01:39:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Qgr7Q.gif)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 04, 2011, 01:43:40 PM
OH MY GOD. they didn't pussy out with Karkand. It's Conquest Assault!

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One team is specified as the attacker (pre-determined, depending on the map). The attacking team starts out with an uncaptureable base and 10% more tickets than the defending team, which holds all or most of the captureable control points on the map at the beginning of the round. Ticket bleed is inflicted when one team holds all the captureable control points, so the attacking team usually starts with ticket bleed at the round's start and must neutralize at least one flag to stop it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 06, 2011, 01:53:46 AM
GOD DAMN

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I am bad at this fucking game. Snipers all over- die as soon as I spawn- wtffff cant win- cant see- getting old
[close]
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 06, 2011, 01:55:12 AM
Also yeah- unlocks and perks made it less about skill and more about being some jackass highschooler
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2011, 01:07:15 AM
I think it has less to do with perks and more to do with the game being unbalanced and released in a very rough state and kinda rushed I think. The more I play the more I realize it. Lots of gun imbalances. (Everybody using the A-91, Scar, or F2000). Lots of class imbalances. The game is crazy engineer heavy. They are the only class that can effectively deal with all the vehicles on the maps which are alot. And they currently have all the best weapons. And they can spam rocket launchers against infantry.

Lots of bugs like how mines don't disappear. You're supposed to only have 6 out but you can put six out every life and they stay. So you can litter the entire map with them unlimited and essentially make vehicles unusable during a map. I constantly get hung up on the geometry when I'm trying to move around. Or get locked into place with people in front or in back of me. Or simply not being able to vault over things I should be able to and getting hung up on them.

There is still a lot of weird hit detection even though the rubberbanding has improved. Lots of bad areas on the map where its very difficult to take over positions due to camping, prone, and just weak map design.

Many of these issues will be fixed but the game is honestly in a pretty rough state and at times it can be very frustrating. I'm not sure I think the game overall is better than BC 2. BC 2 never annoyed me in the manner this game does. It seemed more balanced and better designed at least initially (and outside of a few notable exceptions like placing Mcoms in buildings) MW 3 is actually coming at a perfect time for me. I'll play that for a few weeks and hopefully the first balance patch will hit by then.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 06, 2011, 02:03:02 AM
the unlocks for vehicles are pretty ridiculous.  all game I see jets shooting off missiles and launching flares and shit, then I get in one and it's like "kill people with the machine gun, then you can have fun"  OK

then I get in a helicopter and get shot down instantly by a stinger.  I'm like, ok, whatever.  Then an enemy helicopter is buttfukin our  team, so I'm like, I'll just switch to engineer and use the sting....oh...I have to play as a different class for a while before I can use a crucial weapon that's situation.  ok.

problems aside, the game is REALLY C OOL.  the main thing I don't like is the hud and map and text box and everything is so cluttered and blue and I can't tell things apart and oh lord so much blue neon this shit needs to be readable instantly.  the way the map world is weird too.  There's a zoom button and full map button.  Really, the mini-map should be close range and the full map should be long range.  at least let them use two presets to toggle between.  I gots to press one button, then another button twice to get to where I need it to be.  plus it's all blue neon.


one part in my last game was cool.  I was the gunner on a chopper and the pilot was sticking really close the ground for some reason.  We were about to get shot down so he was booking it away but I'm like, fuck this, and bailed out.  I guess I had enough momentum because I slide a good 100-200 feet without losing any health.

later on I jumped out of my exploding jet...only to have the debris crash into me and count as a suicide  :'(
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: MrAngryFace on November 06, 2011, 02:35:20 AM
I just cant see shit- kids these days must have bionic see shit eyes
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 06, 2011, 02:58:33 AM
yeah, i like to fly (jets, haven't gotten the hang of helis yet - and probably never will at this rate), but locking away basic defensive and offensive things is flat out bullshit

you can't even start a local game and practice flying, and now the "practice" servers are starting to get filled with level 20+ shitbags just trolling for easy kills

i can still have some fun doing stuff on 16-32 count servers where you can get some breathing room, and i had a cool "battlefield moment" (heh) the other night lighting up a tank while i was parachuting down, but this game is busted in a lot of ways right now and you can clearly see where even an extra month of testing/balancing/bugfixing would have helped

gg, dice/ea, that'll teach those cod punks

fuck, even a little throwaway game like bf1943 had a tutorial level where you could practice flying before jumping right into matches
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on November 06, 2011, 03:32:59 AM
every battlefield so far has had a rough launch

hope dice hurries up with its patch this game though
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 06, 2011, 08:42:55 AM
Atfer first after loving it, that MAV is starting to get annoying. If you know what you are doing with it, that thing can be very annoying. It is actually pretty difficult to just hit and take down as its crazy mobile. Especially compared to other flying stuff or the EOD bot which is brtual to drive  Often you need a stinger to take it down and most people don't have that equipped especially on some maps so you wait to die to switch over to it. And its pretty easy to kill people with it even with the loud buzzing noise it makes.

In a Team dm match one time I saw a guy standing on one hovering 30 feet over the battleground which is pretty clever actually but still annoying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWpCSEIgFQs
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 06, 2011, 12:18:07 PM
who wants to play the coop? specifically fire from the sky. i'm grinding for coop guns.

i can fly good :)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 06, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
If you see me online, I'm probably down for a co-op game
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 07, 2011, 12:02:56 AM
what in the fuck is a hoorah?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 07, 2011, 12:20:39 AM
Some info


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Today during our Day 1 event, Daniel “zh1nt0″ Matros volunteered his Saturday Night to come onboard our Teamspeak 3 server to give a quick Q/A about Back to Karkand and score some frags on the Battlefield. We were pretty stoked about this and some great new information came out about the Upcoming Battlefield 3 expansion pack, Back to Karkand. We had a exciting day and we want to give a huge shoutout to Crash7800, 1April, zh1nt0, Elxx, Gamm4 for their help. Here are the highlights of the discussion of what we can expect to see in Back to Karkand.

Unlocks carried over to Vanilla BF3

All the weapons that you unlock while playing Back to Karkand expansion pack will be usable when playing Battlefield 3.

Introducing Assignments

WIth Back to Karkand will come a new feature called “Assignments”. These will essentially be objective based tasks you can accept and will gain rewards from it.

Enhanced Destruction

The Destruction will be turned up a new level in Back to karkand.

Maps with BF2 Flag Structure

The levels in Back to Karkand will bring back the traditional Conquest Assault Gameplay. What this means is one team will start off with most of the flags, and the other team will have to capture those. This is the traditional map format we saw in Battlefield 2.

Karkand stats contribute to global stats

Everything you earn in Karkand will be contributed towards your soldier’s global score.

All game modes available

You’ll be able to play all gamemodes on back to Karkand maps. That means Rush on Wake Island, oh lala!

December 2011 Release

A specific date has yet to be released but it’s right around the corner!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on November 07, 2011, 12:51:39 AM
So how are we all celebrating the last 12 hours of this game?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 07, 2011, 12:54:07 AM
lulz. The game will still maintain a strong player base. They've already shipped 10 million copies.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 07, 2011, 02:14:02 AM
this game is fucking awesome in conquest.  the little niggles are there but the battlefield moments thing ain't no lie.

I'm behind enemy lines at one point because my heli was shot down.  I'm capturing a flag and these two guys in a jeep spot me and start driving to ambush.  I stand my ground and headshot the driver with my revolver, toss a grenade at it to scare out the gunner.  He jumps out and runs behind some wall, but I'm already there, so I stab him in the throat.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 07, 2011, 03:12:52 AM
I wish there was a dogfight only map because flying jets is fun but in-game I've lasted maybe 2 minutes total because instantly some jerk is about to launch a missile at you.  I just unlocked flares so those might help.

outside the unlock stuff, my gripe is with the melee.  I don't get it.  I can knife a dude in prone and it doesn't do anything.  Other times I knife someone and it also doesn't do anything.  Then I'd knife someone and it enters a canned animation.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 07, 2011, 07:19:31 AM
The kill animation only triggers from behind or the sides. From the front you only slash and it takes 2 slashes to kill someone.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 07, 2011, 08:21:47 AM
The knifing is very fun and satisfying especially from behind but its also sketchy a lot of the times. I've blown a lot of kills because the knifing animation wouldn't trigger sometimes and the person eventually turning around and killing me.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on November 07, 2011, 01:45:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSKAmFFuOI
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 07, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
The kill animation only triggers from behind or the sides. From the front you only slash and it takes 2 slashes to kill someone.

ok, thanks.

there isn't really feed back when you slash once.  might as well just shoot them from the front since my revolver is a one hit headshot kill.

I've only been playing on gaf and giantbomb servers.  Both are Conquest 64 with regen health off.  Pretty dope except for medics who chose assault just for the guns.  Also wish people would drop ammo more frequently.

also, the co-op unlock weapons are great.  I want to unlock the last few and I'll grind it out tonight or something.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 08, 2011, 08:34:11 AM
Some console footage of the Back to Karkand expansion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gP6-OwvQ8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6yymYHNwp8


And another video that shows how broken the spawns are in TDM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O1xLR2uEiA
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 08, 2011, 12:05:40 PM
Stolen from gaf.

They are going to nerf the tac light which definitely needs it.

(http://jakkemikke.wippiespace.com/god%20ray%20small.gif)

before
http://battlefieldo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/tactical1.jpg

after
http://battlefieldo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/tactical2.jpg

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 10, 2011, 03:12:33 AM
uh, the IRNV is kinda cheap

I unlocked it, used it for a bit, and felt bad for killing people.  It's like the thermal scope from COD except without drawbacks for balancing.

and grinding in co-op is ridiculous.  Even using an exploit it takes so long.  I still need the last two guns, but that's another hour+ of grindan.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 11, 2011, 08:50:28 AM
The knifing is very fun and satisfying especially from behind but its also sketchy a lot of the times. I've blown a lot of kills because the knifing animation wouldn't trigger sometimes and the person eventually turning around and killing me.
lol happened to me 1000 times
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 12, 2011, 02:08:14 AM
wow, public servers are terrible

literally two people spent the match circling the carrier to shoot down jets before they take off.   I'm not the best pilot, but once I got in the air (which wasn't so difficult because they were dumb and left gaps between passes) I took both down easy.

the gaf and giantbomb servers are great.  I just wish they weren't down all day.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 14, 2011, 05:12:01 AM
you guys have a ps3 clan BTW?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 14, 2011, 11:40:31 AM
I almost, ALMOST bought the PS3 version because my next door neighbor has it and invited me to play with his group, and buying it would have scored me a $50 gaming coupon at K-Mart by combining it with my Skyrim purchase (they had a "spend $110 get a $50 coupon" promo going). They didn't have any Limited Edition copies of the game, though, and I am not spending that extra $15 on the Karkand map pack knowing it should have been in the box to begin with.

gg, EA, way 2 greed
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 14, 2011, 11:46:30 AM
You guys are welcome to join [MAJO] if you want

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/platoon/2832655391404832382/

I'm part of the GAF group but i dont see them too often
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 14, 2011, 11:48:46 AM
I'll buy it when it's $20
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 15, 2011, 02:38:26 AM
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/14/dice-plans-to-fix-battlefield-3s-magic-tactical-light/

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While playing Battlefield 3, have you ever been killed by what appears to be a magical floating light, perhaps some omnipotent deity? Chances are you were actually gunned down by someone using a very powerful flashlight attachment, known simply as the "tactical light." We knew DICE was planning to reduce the light's effectiveness, but now DICE core gameplay designer Alan Kertz has tweeted some screens to illustrate the changes, which you can see above.

 Speaking on Don't Revive Me Bro podcast (9:25), Kertz explained that the change is the result of "direct community feedback." It seems that many players find the godlight to be "negatively affecting their gameplay experience" and, thus far, the response to the images has been "overwhelmingly positive." We'll have to take him at his word because, frankly, our retinas are still adjusting.
(http://i.imgur.com/YbJrz.jpg)

Good, fuck the tactical light. Next I want full anti IRNV cammo plox.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 15, 2011, 08:23:16 AM
Just a tip for a newcomer but this forum isn't big enough to support minor news threads like GAF. Stuff like this works better when its put in the main thread for a game that people talk about. Otherwise you just end up with lots of little dead threads.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 15, 2011, 08:52:42 AM
I was the last poster in the Battlefield thread too T_T

But thanks, tips are welcome
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 15, 2011, 08:56:10 AM
Nah it's okay, we need more threads pointing out all the ways BF3 sucks.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 15, 2011, 10:16:09 AM
See if it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't have known that BF3 sucks.

Re: Thread creating

It's all relative. If you see too many dead threads, you're doing it wrong. If you see your name spammed all over the gaming section, you're doing it wrong. If your threads (and title) sound too serious and lack personality, you're doing it wrong.

But there's an exception to every rule, we call it MAF. God bless his heart, he brought life up in (to?) this bitch.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 15, 2011, 10:28:18 AM
I hope the first patch hits before or at the expansion release date. Lots of little annoying things currently in the game that make me not want to play it. Tac lights were certainly one of them. It was like constantly running around with a flashbang in your face.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on November 20, 2011, 12:49:51 AM
so are they ever going to balance this game?

mortars, predator scope, flashlights, and other things need fixing fast.  there are massive underlying issues like the terrible unlock system, but the moment to moment game can turn to shit fast.

and turning medic into assault seemed like a good idea, but no one heals or revives (unlock system, yeah yeah).  should have just made a true support class for people who want to repair, heal, restock ammo, etc.  make assault MGs + rockets.  spec-ops gets smgs and explosives.  snipers get their rifle and other recon stuff (make the IRNV a spotting tool, not a weapon add-on).

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on November 20, 2011, 02:23:08 AM
patch is next week says the devs
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 20, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
(make the IRNV a spotting tool, not a weapon add-on).
This. The MAV already can basically see in the dark, it should only be used there imo
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on November 21, 2011, 10:13:05 PM
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Patch notes for Nov 22 patch
Major client update for the PC version Battlefield 3 as well as a server-side update for all platforms.

The update will be made on Nov. 22nd 7:00 AM UTC / Nov. 21st 11:00 PM PST.

We’ll share release timing on the console patches as soon as we are clear on the timing, these take a bit longer due to console certification process.


---- Client-Side Changes:

-- Visuals, Stability and Performance Fixes:

• General performance and loading time improvements
• “Black Screen” fix for an issue occurring on some PC Configurations
• Stereo and Rendering Support for Nvidia and AMD Graphics Cards
• Adjusted the “stuttering” encountered on some PC configurations.
• Fixed several Crashes when joining MP and Co-Op sessions
• Fixed multiple problems when using multiple monitors (Eyefinity / Surround).
• Fixed visual corruption issues on certain Nvidia Cards
• Improved loading times for certain textures
• Added console command “GameTime.MaxVariableFps” to limit max FPS
• Added console command “UI.DrawEnable” to hide UI for screenshots / videos

-- Balance and Gameplay Adjustments (PC)

• Fixed a problem with high speed mouse movement
• Added back some missing Growlers on Kharg Island Conquest Large
• Added back EOR sound for SQDM and TDM
• You should no longer be able to damage a friendly vehicle when sitting in an open position
• Grenades now drop to ground if you get killed while attempting to throw it(note the affect this will have on Hardcore mode!)
• Spawn protection now should work in Conquest. You should no longer spawn on points too close to enemies
• You should no longer spawn too close to enemies in TDM and SQDM
• Combat areas on Kharg Rush tweaked in order to disallow defenders to access the carrier ship after 1st base is taken and being able to enter the AA gun
• Fixed a problem with revived players not suffering suppression
• Fixed a problem with the camera when being revived in COOP
• Added joystick deadzone setting
• Fixed sound for when climbing ladders
• Fixed an issue with some weapon sounds in first person
• Fixed a swim sound loop error
• Increased the damage of Helicopter Miniguns, AA guns, and Jet Cannons against infantry
• Increased the damage of Helicopter Miniguns against jeeps.
• Reduced the physics impact of AA guns and Jet Cannons, players under attack from these weapons should no longer lose control.
• Increased the damage of the 44 Magnum slightly.
• Increased the range and minimum damage of the .357 Round from the MP412 Rex.
• Increased the range of all .45cal and 9mm weapons.
• Slightly increased the range of the P90 and MP7 and PDW-R.
• Slightly increased the range of the 5.56mm PDW-R and decreased the minimum damage at long range.
• Slightly increased the minimum range of the Mk11, SVD, and M39 EMR 7.62mm rifles.
• Decreased the maximum damage and maximum range of the G3 and SCAR-H 7.62mm weapons.
• Reduced the damage from FIM-92 and SA-18 IGLA missiles against aircraft.
• Increased the damage and range of the 40mm BUCK rounds.
• Reduced the damage .50cal weapons do against Helicopters.
• Updated T90 canister shell tweaks to match Abrams canister shells
UI Changes (PC)
• Added round duration and ticket summary at EOR
• Advanced squad polish – should be more intuitive
• Significant changes to the Join Squad functionality (see below)
• Fixed a problem regarding keybindings while playing
• You should now get a better error message when being disconnected via Battlelog

---- Server Update Highlights

• EOD Bot exploit fix
• Several crash fixes
• Anti-stat padding measures taken, disallowing ranked servers to run obscure settings
• Improved team kill kick configuration
• Support for unranked servers. Unranked servers do not report players' scores to Battlelog, but server administrators can freely control all settings


-- Share your profile and stats with new Battlelog functionality

• Ability to share your Profile and Stats pages to Facebook, Google+, and Twitter
• User Profile and Stats pages on Battlelog can now be accessed without being signed in to Battlelog if you know a user's URL
• Single sign on from Battlelog to Origin. If you're not logged in to Origin and join a game server, Battlelog will automatically sign you in to Origin in the background and join the game server


-- Quick notes on Squad changes in the Nov 22 update

• Removed FIND ME A SQUAD option
• Allow players to join empty Squads alone, thus having 1/4 squad members
• Change order of options to LEAVE SQUAD, INV A FRIEND, SWITCH TEAM
• Disable Privacy flag when 1 man squad
• Reset Privacy flag from Private to Public when squad drops to 1 player
• All occupied Squads will now show up colored blue on the Squad Selection screen
• Players who choose not to join squads will also show up as Blue in the "Not in a Squad” line
• Squads that are currently empty will display as white -- if you wish to join an empty Squad, you can choose the first one marked with white text


-- A detailed look at Squad refinements

A detailed look at Squad refinements

Today's PC client patch features numerous tweaks to Squad functionality and is part of our ongoing efforts to make it easier to play with friends and Platoon mates. These changes will also be implemented for consoles when we release the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 updates shortly. Stay tuned for the exact date of the console updates.

First, we need to look at how joining with Squads and Platoons affects the balance of teams. Initially, servers are commanded to equal out each side, so joining with friends can impact that balance while joining with Platoons further hinders this. As a result we have made some adjustments to the in-game Squad management screen.

For PC, you are now able to highlight the various Squads and select which one you wish to join by selecting a Squad and then clicking the Join Squad button. Please note that the Squad Privacy option still allows 2 man Squads which, during 64 player sessions, can lead to players with no squad position –- the number of people with no Squads will be shown at the bottom of the Squad selection list.

After the patch is applied to consoles (in the near future) you will be able to join Squads by cycling through the list and selecting which Squad you wish to join.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 21, 2011, 10:29:52 PM
I see nothing about invr scopes, flashlights, or mine spam.

Lame.

Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 22, 2011, 02:18:02 AM
battlelog is down atm

updates!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 24, 2011, 01:11:23 PM
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At E3 2011, EA promised that PlayStation 3 owners who bought Battlefield 1943 would find a free copy of Battlefield 1943 nestled alongside it on the Blu-Ray. It never happened, leading angry customers to file a class-action lawsuit against the publisher for breaking its word.

Today, though, EA is finally making good on that promise, giving all PS3 Battlefield 3 players a free code to download the PSN title. European players can get theirs on November 26th, North Americans on December 10th, and players in Asia will have to wait until December 17th.

Previously, the publisher tried to make up for the omission by offering one-week exclusivity for PS3 on upcoming DLC packs, but it wasn't enough to placate the community.

You can see how to redeem your code on EA's website, which gives the following instructions:

"To download your copy of Battlefield 1943 for the PlayStation 3 please follow the easy steps below.

1. Activate your Battlefield 3 Online Pass for the PlayStation 3 using the voucher included in the game (see step #5 for additional instructions).

2. Visit 1943redemption.battlefield.com on or after the dates outlined above for your region and log in with your Origin ID and password. Click here if you need help with retrieving your account information.

3. Select your territory. Note vouchers do not work across regions.

4. You will then receive a PlayStation 3 voucher for Battlefield 1943.

5. Input your voucher into the PlayStation Network store. From the XMB (cross media-bar) of the PlayStation 3 connected to a network, choose [account management] under the [PlayStation Network]. From the menu select redeem codes. Enter voucher and select continue. Download Battlefield 1943."
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 24, 2011, 02:44:39 PM
I double dipped on the PC version.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 25, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Decided im going to go full IRNV SCAR Flashlight of Doom Engineer RPG and mine hax mode for the next few days until the patch hits. I want to feel what its like being a dirtbag 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 28, 2011, 06:09:11 PM
So true.  :lol

(http://i.imgur.com/6TpbP.gif)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Boogie on November 28, 2011, 06:56:13 PM
So true.  :lol

(http://i.imgur.com/6TpbP.gif)

I haven't played enough to get any IRNV scopes yet, so my reaction to that gif is...

holy shit.  broken game total.

(and I don't feel quite so bad about how much I suck anymore, how do you counter that before you've unlocked it yourself?)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: pilonv1 on November 28, 2011, 07:32:31 PM
People are still playing?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Boogie on November 28, 2011, 08:10:13 PM
People are still playing?

See, now I know this is crazy talk, but when I buy a videogame, I try not to throw it in the dustbin three weeks after release.

It's no Battlefield 2, but I'm still having fun.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 28, 2011, 10:03:14 PM
The game is definitely fun. It's just going to take them a long while to balance all the annoying shit. Which is unfortunate.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 29, 2011, 01:35:40 AM
Decided im going to go full IRNV SCAR Flashlight of Doom Engineer RPG and mine hax mode for the next few days until the patch hits. I want to feel what its like being a dirtbag 
lol I kinda went through with this but instead of SCAR I use G3. I hope I enrage as many people as humanly possible.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I lie, i cant do this shit :(
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Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on November 29, 2011, 05:31:58 AM
i haven't played in awhile but that isn't a fault of the game. more the fault of the release date. if this had come out in March 2012 i would be putting mad hours into the game for a long time.

i'll be picking it up when the karkand expansion comes out
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 29, 2011, 08:34:01 AM
Prolly for the best, it's kinda shitty atm with everyone playing as an engineer.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 29, 2011, 12:22:48 PM
Prolly for the best, it's kinda shitty atm with everyone playing as an engineer.
I haven't played in a while because of the state of the game.

Everybody plays engineer because

A.) They are the only class capable of dealing with the high number of vehicles.
B.) They are the only class that can rocket spam.

The games just has lots of design  issues currently that tend to annoy. The IR scopes for example are clearly an attempt to deal with the high amount of camping that can take place in an objective style capture the point game but its similar to the problem that people complained about in the first Batman game. There is almost no reason to play the game without it because it has no real disadvantage. One of the biggest skills in a shooter is target acquisition. And this device is specifically made for target acquisition to cut through all the visual distortion in a game that has a lot of it. It should have probably been a recon spotting gadget its so powerful.



Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 29, 2011, 12:48:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkR1rE5kHAo
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on November 29, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
Oh yes I fully agree the IRNV should be a recon tool. I was posting it on battlelog to try and bring it to DICE's attention (like they don't already know) that it's ruining a lot of the game. got trolled as expected but hey, whatever. They should put it on the MAV and recon tools and give more points for spotting that way it's useful to scouts and to infantry on the front lines without being a broken piece of shit.

The Assualt class can grenade spam pretty well too, it replaces the defib, which is fucking stupid in it's own right.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 01, 2011, 01:54:31 AM
The PS3 patch hit and some interesting stuff.

The at mine spam bug has been fixed and now you can spot them which is good.

Some people are saying the IRNV has been nerfed although that wasn't in the patch notes.

And some people are saying the mav has been nerfed by making it harder to control and mow people over with it (although some people are saying it hasn't)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 01, 2011, 02:12:01 AM
The MAV has always been a piece of shit to control, any change would be for the better :lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 01, 2011, 02:23:11 AM
I never found it that hard to fly the mav on the 360 and it was very difficult to shoot down imo with console analog stick control. People were constantly using it to mow down people both on the console and pc versions which is dumb. Not to mention people riding them like flying saucers to map glitch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgLd2w3uuHU


And my god, the epic whining about the irnv nerf is just beginning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIsUWCDUBOM


I'll never understand people who get mad about fixing imbalances in a game just because they centered their play style around an op gun or gadget. You know what else is op. The F2000 and pretty much all the fast firing assault rifles because the recoil in this game is so little (Even compared to BC2). So the guns that work as bullet hoses are the best guns. If they ever do address that (which I doubt they will) the complaining would never end.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 01, 2011, 04:14:09 AM
That piece of shit scope needs to GO. lol @ the QQ in that video.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 02, 2011, 03:40:04 PM
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2832654489494744784/


The next set of patch changes. I think most are pretty good.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 02, 2011, 04:34:35 PM
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Moved a tank spawn in US base on Caspian Border so it would not be destroyed by a falling tree
:lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 06, 2011, 06:31:01 PM
Played some of the DLC maps/modes and got a few unlocks, pretty fun
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 07, 2011, 08:41:41 AM
reading the patch notes... why the fuck is this 3.9gigs, smh
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 07, 2011, 11:30:12 AM
:lol @ the crying over INVR nerf
I've been trolling those guys all week on battlelog, no I am not proud of myself but come on :lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 07, 2011, 11:36:16 AM
bu bu bu if it wasnt that important to you, why are several thousand of you QQing about it? T_T
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 07, 2011, 08:23:50 PM
jeeze they really increased recoil quite a bit
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 07, 2011, 09:01:16 PM
I noticed my weapon climb over longer bursts was a bit off. I rarely use stabilizing attachments but have started to.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on December 07, 2011, 09:03:02 PM
reading the patch notes... why the fuck is this 3.9gigs, smh

does it include the Karkand stuff?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on December 07, 2011, 09:05:15 PM
Yeah the Karkand content is part of the patch
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 13, 2011, 06:47:39 AM
The Back to Karkand stuff is up for 360 and PC now. Played a few games this morning. I like the maps so far. My initial impression is that they seem better designed than the default bf3 ones and concentrate the action better.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 13, 2011, 07:54:09 AM
KARKAND!!!!! i found a few 24/7 karkand servers with 1k tickets. gonna play the fucking shit out of these when i get home from work
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: huckleberry on January 05, 2012, 09:21:14 AM
Any of you still playing?
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 05, 2012, 11:40:16 AM
I'll be playing today. Giantbomb is playing it for TNT
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Momo on January 05, 2012, 12:33:00 PM
I play when asked basically. I havent even played all of the DLC maps properly yet :/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Boogie on January 05, 2012, 12:36:22 PM
Any of you still playing?


BF3 has fallen by the wayside while my life currently revolves around Skyrim.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 05, 2012, 01:15:25 PM
Any of you still playing?


BF3 has fallen by the wayside while my life currently revolves around Skyrim.

same.

There is supposed to be a big accessories revamp at some point in the future.

http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/nwy8o/discussion_of_bf3_weapon_accessories_and_their/
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: tehjaybo on January 15, 2012, 04:00:57 AM
Anyone still playing on 360?  I just got into it and I'm really enjoying it.  Looking for some more to put together a squad or two.  Some RL friends and I are playing and kicking ass, usually around the top of our team.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 15, 2012, 07:24:27 AM
I do. I saw you on playing it this week. I'll try to join you at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on January 17, 2012, 05:19:25 PM
I'm playing!  Don't forget ur internet buddy and eye are el buddy too!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: demi on January 17, 2012, 05:24:50 PM
This game is doodoo as fuck. MW3 has the better campaign and no shitty online codes. And I dont have to download 5GB of crap to just play it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 17, 2012, 05:33:24 PM
The campaign is crap. Their worst effort in that area since Bad Company 1. (To be clear Bad Company 1 was funny but the gameplay was fucking broken in the campaign)

Still very much enjoying the MP but my new pet peeve is people getting on MAV's and flying them into completely unreachable areas. That shit needs to be fixed. MAV's in general are so fucking annoying in this game. The UAV's in Bad Company 2 were so much better.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 17, 2012, 05:45:11 PM
yeah, if you're buying this for the single player, DO NOT BUY THIS FOR THE SINGLE PLAYER

for all of activision's wrong moves, they have never tried to cram online codes in COD

they know they'll get their $ with the map packs
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on January 18, 2012, 12:28:59 AM
The campaign is crap. Their worst effort in that area since Bad Company 1. (To be clear Bad Company 1 was funny but the gameplay was fucking broken in the campaign)

Still very much enjoying the MP but my new pet peeve is people getting on MAV's and flying them into completely unreachable areas. That shit needs to be fixed. MAV's in general are so fucking annoying in this game. The UAV's in Bad Company 2 were so much better.

It would help if people like me wouldn't think they knew how to fly those MAV's.  It's usually me flying off into the restricted areas because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. :lol
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 18, 2012, 01:18:00 AM
The campaign is crap. Their worst effort in that area since Bad Company 1. (To be clear Bad Company 1 was funny but the gameplay was fucking broken in the campaign)

Still very much enjoying the MP but my new pet peeve is people getting on MAV's and flying them into completely unreachable areas. That shit needs to be fixed. MAV's in general are so fucking annoying in this game. The UAV's in Bad Company 2 were so much better.

It would help if people like me wouldn't think they knew how to fly those MAV's.  It's usually me flying off into the restricted areas because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. :lol

Oh I don't even mean that. I mean people literally getting on a MAV. And then having someone fly them up somewhere on it like a magic carpet. When they get there they put up a spawn beacon and just stay there the entire game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 04, 2012, 11:33:20 PM
Haven't played in awhile so I played today. I know there is a big patch coming up but good lord the game is horseshit right now. Between Usas with frag ammo, mav riding, mav death machines that kill people, mortar spamming, everybody using a famas, flashlights which were never patched on the console version, etc ,etc, etc.

I can't believe they've gone this long without an update and let the game just languish in this state.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 07, 2012, 08:16:59 AM
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Battlefield 3 is to get three themed downloadable expansions, starting in June. Like first add-on Back to Karkand, they will offer new weapons and in some cases vehicles to be used across the entire game, as well as new multiplayer maps.
 
In addition, console players are to get a rent-a-server programme that will allow them to run dedicated game servers customised to their own rules and preferences, just like their PC brethren. This is a first for any console shooter.
 
June's add-on pack is called Close Quarters and it's focused on up-close-and-personal indoor infantry combat with verticality to the map designs. It will be released one week early on PS3, and includes 10 new weapons and four new maps.
 
It's described as "hectic and intense". The map demonstrated at EA's GDC event was the interior of a swish-looking office block called Ziba Tower, with lots of glass to shatter.
 
The following add-on will be called Armored Kill. With a focus on tank combat, it will offer the Battlefield series' biggest map ever and one new drivable vehicle for use in the third game. It has no release date yet.
 
The final add-on will be End Game, about which nothing is known, and which is apparently still a closely guarded secret within developer DICE.
 
We'll have more info on Close Quarters soon.

That's pretty awesome. Now just get going on the updates and I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2012, 10:47:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9N853JrG_0

lulz. Battlefield community in an uproar over this cod inspired DLC. I'll most likely get it but the problem is battlefield doesn't really feel good as this sort of experience, especially not compared to COD and the spawning currently is god damn awful in the tdm modes.

Me. I'm more upset for the patch that should come to fix the fucking mess the game is right now.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on March 13, 2012, 11:48:40 AM
Looks pretty awesome. Big maps and vehicles may be the core of Battlefield, but I'm onboard with this addition. Nice to actually get to use the weapons at close range.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
It doesn't bother me to buy it and play it. If they fix the spawning and add some modes I could see it being pretty fun.


I think what people are responding to is how long its taken for DLC, how few patches have come, and how silent DICE has been relatively speaking this whole time. Not to mention that forum types who play Battlefield hate TDM because their entire chest thumping gimmick has been around how Battlefield is so different than COD.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on March 13, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
It doesn't bother me to buy it and play it. If they fix the spawning and add some modes I could see it being pretty fun.


I think what people are responding to is how long its taken for DLC, how few patches have come, and how silent DICE has been relatively speaking this whole time. Not to mention that forum types who play Battlefield hate TDM because their entire chest thumping gimmick has been around how Battlefield is so different than COD.

I don't see why this would bother them. If anything having pure CQB in addition to massive vehicular insanity maps makes it even more different from COD. I mean, there is no shortage of differences between the games, and simply having CQB maps doesn't make it COD.

As for DLC... Karkand came out shortly after release. There are three more coming this year. That's not really that slow.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 13, 2012, 01:46:21 PM
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The announcement of the next batch of Battlefield 3 expansions couldn't have come at a better time for DICE. The natives were so restless over the lack of news and title updates coming from the studio that some particularly outraged fans were in the midst of organizing a 24-hour blackout to demonstrate their disappointment over the developer's perceived inaction. In reality, DICE was prepping the public unveiling of the most aggressive slate of post-release expansions since the days of Battlefield 2.

But even before the first map pack releases in June, DICE has several other Battlefield 3 enhancements nearly ready for deployment. Executive producer Patrick Bach says a huge patch featuring several requested tweaks is going through certification right now with Microsoft and Sony, and the studio plans to roll out a server rental program in the coming months.

PC players have always had the luxury of renting individual servers and tweaking the game modes to their liking. With the server browsing functionality already in place for Battlefield 3, DICE asked Microsoft and Sony about the possibility of providing server rentals on consoles as well. Surprisingly, both platforms told Bach that DICE was the first studio to ever inquire about this kind of service. After going over DICE's request, both gave the Battlefield 3 plan their blessing. For an undetermined fee, players will now be all to rent their own servers and set up custom game configurations. Want to play ranked Seine Crossing conquest matches on repeat? No problem. Prefer to scale back the maps to only those that emphasize vehicular combat on hardcore mode? It's also just a few clicks and a few dollars away. DICE hasn't finalized the pricing yet, but Bach says they plan to offer different plans based on the length of rental, which can range from one-day events to longer-term contracts lasting several months.

Though most fans will just be happy to play some new maps when Close Quarters launches in June, a smaller subset of Battlefield traditionalists will probably scoff at the idea of a map pack that approximates the intense small area gunfights of Call of Duty. So why go small when the series is best known for going big? Bach says the popularity of more narrow maps like Operation Metro was the motivating factor. Since hardcore fans got their wish with several revamped Battlefield 2 fans in Back to Karkand, DICE believed it made sense to cater to the close quarters crowd with the next four-map expansion.

With no vehicles or large open expanses, these maps will be popular Team Deathmatch destinations, but Bach says all four maps support every pre-existing gameplay mode, plus a brand new one the studio isn't revealing just yet. To keep these more intimate encounters from feeling overcrowded, DICE is also dropping the player count. Sorry PC players, but there are no 64-player matches in this expansion pack.

What these indoor spaces lack in size, they make up for in destructibility. Throughout my hands-on playthrough of the Ziba Tower high-rise apartment map, rarely did I come across a room that wasn't ripped to shreds by bullets. When multiple soldiers are opening fire in a room, the immediate damage is impressive. Drywall, home decor, televisions, windows – everything in this ultra-modern Iranian complex is susceptible to damage. It also features the element of verticality, with the gunfight taking place on multiple floors. 

As you would expect in a smaller, Call of Duty style map, the minute-to-minute gameplay was fast and furious, and the maps seem better suited to the assault and support classes. Though you can still play as an engineer or recon soldier, the utility of anti-air missiles, RPGs, anti-tank mines, sniper rifles, and laser designators seems marginalized when battling in such tight spaces. Why essentially equip yourself with poorly fitting specializations like these when a medic pack or ammo packs make so much more sense? Close Quarters also comes with 10 new weapons spread across all the classes, so perhaps the new guns will keep these seemingly less-useful classes relevant. Like Back to Karkand before it, this new expansion also includes additional assignments and dogtags.

If you're not crazy about the smaller maps, you also have two more map packs to look forward to in 2012. Armored Kill, the vehicular-based expansion that includes the biggest map in BF 3 history and new vehicles, is scheduled to ship next fall. We don't know anything about the final expansion, End Game, but Bach says it will likely release during the winter.

Close Quarters is scheduled to release on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC this June, with PS3 owners getting the maps a week early. Check out the screenshots and game trailer below to get a glimpse of the expansion in action.

The bolded is the part I care about.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: duckman2000 on March 13, 2012, 02:08:29 PM
I'm not really up to date with patches, all I know is that they have fixed most of the issues I've personally seen like the Tunguska ripping apart the spawn in the canal map and such. The rest, like the MAV-riding, isn't a problem on a well moderated server. Sucks ass on a poorly moderated one, but then those servers tend to suck ass in general.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 27, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
The patch that took forever is finally out on PS3. Annoyingly still no date on PC or 360 but hopefully it should be within a week.


http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/2832654780279541805/


Video of the rent a server options

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TplEaSEyoM

And some minor balance things

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSvYCTpaUIY

I'm happy this patch is finally nearly here. Battlefield 3 was a game that was released in a fucked state imo just to try to beat out MW 3 and its been stuck that way for months. I finally feel like this is how the game should have launched in the first place.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on March 31, 2012, 01:29:35 PM
Dice Dice Dice  ::)


So my PC version doesn't work anymore for some reason after the update. Stuck on a black screen and won't connect to the game no matter what server I join. This didn't happen pre-patch obviously. I'll have to try to research and see if this is any easy fix.

This would be less annoying of course if the xbox version was updated because I play that more anyway but of course it isn't. Dice fucked up the submission and there is still no timetable for when the update will hit that platform.

The patch itself seems to be getting mixed reviews. Some things have clearly been improved and fixed but others say some things are far worse. Like supression is overboard. Tanks have been weakened. Stingers don't lock on like they should, MAV magic carpets not fixed, etc.

(http://i.imgur.com/I8UZP.jpg)
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on March 31, 2012, 06:04:38 PM
anti air missiles literally explode before hitting jets 100% of the time.

QA failed miserably
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Vizzys on March 31, 2012, 06:11:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYQiSG-71c
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 02, 2012, 06:55:09 PM
http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/04/xbox-360-patch-going-live-april-3rd/


360 patch lands tomorrow. Probably gonna rent a server for awhile on that platform.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2012, 09:59:29 AM
Played for a good bit yesterday after the new patch. I like it although I think suppression is way overdone. I never liked the way DICE implemented this mechanic in the first place. And I don't like the fact that nearly every gun fight now is conducted in a blur because of it. Not to mention the fact that it arbitrarily reduces your accuracy.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 11, 2012, 03:41:33 PM
I've put in some decent time with the new patch. Its not perfect or anything but its a huge improvement over what came before in many cases. It's a shame the game didn't ship closer to this. I have a lot of friends who dropped battlefield 3 after getting sick of the broken shit that was in the games for months. The best thing they've done is with the weapons. They've weened down the utterly broken dumb shit like the usas with frags or the famas, etc. Lots of guns in the game were simply so overpowered before that pretty much everybody ran with the same shit. And you didn't have to burst fire or anything because weapons like the famas were laser accurate and had the highest fire rate in the game before. Now they've tried to make the guns situational as in most of the insane fire rate guns have increased recoil to compensate for the high fire rate. Wish they would have done this before they added the weapons in the game in the first place but whatever. Coincidentally my stats have improved post patch because I'm not constantly getting raped by bullshit.

There will still need to be another significant patch to fix the stuff this patch either broke or didn't fix like it was supposed to. And my PC version of the game is utterly broken. I've tried a lot of shit but none of it works to get it running. I'll have to uninstall the game and reinstall and all my video card drivers when I get some free time to see if that hopefully fixes it. 

Edit: Some people are saying the m26 dart is the new usas with frags. I find it to be not as bad since you can't nuke an entire area with it like with the usas but it probably does need a small nerf. I think shotguns in the game are kinda overpowered period which is why I don't think the m26 dart is over-powered relative to those weapons.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 20, 2012, 01:00:09 AM
That sucks. If you get it working let me know and we'll play some time.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 20, 2012, 03:39:13 PM
Weird. Have you tried deleting all of it and re-installing the updates and such. I've never had such an issue on a console game before.

Now my pc version has been unplayable since the update.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on June 02, 2012, 12:48:32 PM
New patch coming in two days: http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/05/bf3-june-update-announce/ (http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/05/bf3-june-update-announce/)

Close Quarters was pushed back to and street dated for June 30th, even though it already had a street date of June 1st.  PS3 users get it a week earlier  :maf

Also, premium service announced.  Will be like CoD:Elite service.  Looks pretty meh.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 03, 2012, 11:42:36 AM
Very excited for the new patch. I though the last one with the weapon re-balancing was great (Despite the new issues it introduced like suppression, m26). Also very interested in Close quarters since I like COD for the most part but this will have less of the dumb stuff that annoys me in cod.

Hopefully the patch fixes my copy on the PC which has been broken since the last one although I mostly play on xbox anyway. 
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: cool breeze on June 03, 2012, 06:34:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCfiEzhiDVI


Armored kill looks awesome
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 04, 2012, 08:36:09 AM
This works for me now and I've been playing on 360. Is there no hardcore mode?

There is. Just tick the hardcore box in the server browser.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 04, 2012, 11:44:58 PM
Close Quarters Launch Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKsR861KGbw

New Mode Gun Master

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCDFArwxUw

Conquest Domination on one of the new maps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrnVs47L_GM
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 05, 2012, 12:50:52 PM
I guess it depends on what you come to Battlefield for particularly on the console versions. Maps like Metro are extremely popular (even on the PC version) but especially on the console version because they are full of action. The largest maps on the console version don't work well with 24 people. Armored Kill imo will be a trainwreck on the consoles.

Bad Company 2 seemed to get the balance more correct in that aspect. Some of the large maps on console especially in conquest mode for Battlefield 3 are too sparse when it comes to action. I understand the desire to create maps that actually center the action.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 05, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
I like metro for rush. Not so much for conquest. But everybody is different. I like a variety of maps and playstyles.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on June 05, 2012, 03:21:04 PM
I dig Metro sometimes.  Like Stoney, I like it more for rush. 

So I have enough points on my PowerUp account to get a $50 giftcard to Gamestop.  I think I"m going to go up there today, redeem it for MS points, and spend it on Premium...
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 05, 2012, 03:37:38 PM
I bought premium yesterday. It didn't bother me when it was called COD elite. It doesn't bother me here.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: G The Resurrected on June 12, 2012, 07:01:16 AM
Love that premium gets you content for all three platforms  :lol

Buy it once and you get it for PS3, Xbox, and PC!

And I of course got it from a different region so it was even cheaper.

Close quarters is awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 12, 2012, 07:27:12 AM
Love that premium gets you content for all three platforms  :lol

Buy it once and you get it for PS3, Xbox, and PC!

And I of course got it from a different region so it was even cheaper.

Close quarters is awesome stuff.

I've only played a relatively small amount of close quarters but I'm really enjoying it. I like the decision DICE made to design all the map packs around a different breed of gameplay. Close quarters adds this upclose fast and frantic cod style gameplay type and it really works and it wasn't really there in battlefield before. It's not like Metro Conquest where its all just a meat grinder in about 3 or 4 locations because you can't flank. It's really fast and fluid. Yeah if you're a traditional battlefield guy that only likes battlefield for the massive maps and jets and tanks then there isn't anything for you here. But if you like COD but don't like COD killstreaks then this is pretty damn fun.

Also my Battlefield 3 on PC seems to be working again magically. I just deleted everything and re-downloaded after the most recent patch and now it works for some inexplicable reason.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on June 13, 2012, 11:11:19 AM
A lot of my friends didn't like the Close Quarters stuff, especially the Gun Master mode.  I actually enjoyed it quite a bit even though it can be frustrating at times.  Gun Master brought me back to my old Counterstrike days...
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: G The Resurrected on June 13, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
Yeah gun master is a love it hate it kind of thing. I love it, but wish it was on the smaller squad death match type games where it would work better. I keep getting into matches with 32 or 64 people on CQ its nuts!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 13, 2012, 01:44:48 PM
It's okay especially for a once in a while thing but I prefer it in a free for all context like in Black Ops versus a faux team context like in BF 3.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 13, 2012, 01:58:44 PM
i got premium. gonna play some of the close quarter stuff tonight.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on June 13, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
Premium members get Double XP all weekend.  Too bad I'll be on a camping trip with awesome friends and a couple of the single ladies.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 13, 2012, 07:37:48 PM
played some of the CQ maps.

seems OK. Conquest Domination is essentially small conquest with 3 spawn points and the points capture pretty quickly.

the action is super fast, etc etc. pretty happy with my PC's performance. i forgot how bloody amazing the game looks.

the maps seem OK as well. I'm not really too up on what makes a map good or bad but they didn't seem to be obviously bad to me. i enjoyed my time.

They do make knife kills much easier since you have 64 dudes in a pretty small map. there's always gonna be someone not facing you. which is fun.

Some screens from the three maps I played:

Ziba Tower:
(http://i.minus.com/j05UwlfYTu6BI.jpg) (http://minus.com/l05UwlfYTu6BI)(http://i.minus.com/jCZY16D6U9qJX.jpg) (http://minus.com/lCZY16D6U9qJX)(http://i.minus.com/j4qEZt4IGps50.jpg) (http://minus.com/l4qEZt4IGps50)


Scrap Metal:
(http://i.minus.com/j06FqG6edQx8h.jpg) (http://minus.com/l06FqG6edQx8h)(http://i.minus.com/jbscptJLKKN5bw.jpg) (http://minus.com/lbscptJLKKN5bw)(http://i.minus.com/jSQMf2oRTCQh0.jpg) (http://minus.com/lSQMf2oRTCQh0)(http://i.minus.com/jbiHicjk1GrFXd.jpg) (http://minus.com/lbiHicjk1GrFXd)


Operation 295 (or something):
(http://i.minus.com/jIK0C8CJCeLYH.jpg) (http://minus.com/lIK0C8CJCeLYH)(http://i.minus.com/jPxWJaDQ9H2zx.jpg) (http://minus.com/lPxWJaDQ9H2zx)(http://i.minus.com/jbsHWiuVCDh6Pn.jpg) (http://minus.com/lbsHWiuVCDh6Pn)(http://i.minus.com/jwkrNb97VfcNx.jpg) (http://minus.com/lwkrNb97VfcNx)(http://i.minus.com/jhsz0C1BaJw4N.jpg) (http://minus.com/lhsz0C1BaJw4N)




edit: Man, if Dice got to make Mirror's Edge 2 in this engine? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 14, 2012, 01:40:31 AM
I think all of the close quarters maps are designed well. I just wish c4 was less prevalent.

Playing on 64 player maps with maps this size seems pointless to me but to each his own. I think they work pretty well with 16. 24 would be the most I could handle. Any more would turn it into a clusterfuck imo.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: tehjaybo on July 02, 2012, 01:20:05 AM
HI DREW

ANDY SAYS HI TOO
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on July 02, 2012, 02:59:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqYOF7Xr730
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: drew on July 02, 2012, 04:28:54 PM
"TehJayBo wants friends to play Battlefield 3"

btw i liked the part how in the last game when you locked me out of your squad i joined another and led not only them but our team to sweet, glorious victory.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
Sounds like Battlefield drama...
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on July 02, 2012, 11:54:42 PM
We were just fucking around with you at first.  But hey, even I revived you a few times after that!
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: tehjaybo on July 09, 2012, 02:24:22 PM
"TehJayBo wants friends to play Battlefield 3"

btw i liked the part how in the last game when you locked me out of your squad i joined another and led not only them but our team to sweet, glorious victory.

We had four RL friends playing, sorry dude.  But when there's a spot open, hop in.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Brehvolution on July 09, 2012, 02:51:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1H-iSEgTA
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 09, 2012, 03:36:54 PM
I've put a little over 200 hundred hours into the game. Still enjoyable as hell. I'm not an amazing player but I do try to play in a team oriented manner.

(http://g.bf3stats.com/360/qvJvFKXL/Stoney%20Mason.png)

This game actually drove me to play in a clan/platoon although we aren't super serious about it. I just find it too frustrating to play with randoms. This is true for all battlefield games but I feel like this one even more so really embodies the truth that if you play with randoms you get rolled because they don't know what the hell they are doing.

I do wish the game had a Bad Company map pack. That series has some amazing maps that would work great in this game. And the rent a server thing on consoles was a mixed blessing if there ever was one. I like the freedom it offers but the rise of mini-hitler server admins has just been insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAp7VyGgqhc

So sad. So true.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on July 09, 2012, 04:14:47 PM
:lol

It is so true.  Jaybo bought a server for our platoon to play on and I was joking around last night because they're was a guy playing that was killing a lot of us.  I kept on saying, "If you don't quit being good at this game: BANNED!"

I never did it though.

The only thing that I would ever kick a player for is spawn camping or teabagging randoms (even though I have been known to do it if I'm drunk or in a really bad mood, so I'd probably let it slide), but even then, that's what the banners are for when joining a server.  I really do hate it when admins abuse power though.  I've got a friend that does it and moves people around at random and moves himself to the winning team all the time, and it gets really annoying.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 19, 2012, 10:37:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAWGDpVNDZ4


I'm far less of a fan of the heavy vehicle stuff so this particular expansion interests me less than it would others.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on July 19, 2012, 12:30:30 PM
At 1:25 it looks like the character is shooting two fishing poles. :lol

Other than that, I'm really excited for this expansion.  I think having ATV's will be cool, and I'm ready for this huge map that they're promising.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 05, 2012, 11:15:48 PM
Aftermath is my favorite piece of DLC. I love the maps.

I thought armored kill had killed bf3 for me because I hated it, but aftermath is great. The scavenger mode is really fun too.
Title: Re: Battlefield 3
Post by: Groogrux on December 06, 2012, 01:12:11 AM
Same here.  Aftermath is definitely redeeming this game.  I was waiting to see how this dlc would do before I made my final decision about trading it in at work.  I think I'll keep it now! 

Not crazy about the crossbow yet though.