Author Topic: Battlefield 3 (Read 56378 times)

pilonv1 · « **Reply #240 on:** October 01, 2011, 09:04:10 AM »

this game is terrible

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #241 on:** October 01, 2011, 09:54:45 AM »

Quote from: maxy on October 01, 2011, 07:07:36 AM

(Image removed from quote.)

ha ha ha

demi · « **Reply #242 on:** October 01, 2011, 12:55:05 PM »

awful, awful "beta"

Another win for COD

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #243 on:** October 01, 2011, 02:40:20 PM »

there's some hacked full player servers for Metro. i played a full 64 player match and it's pretty broken. that many players crammed into the subway section is ridiculous

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #244 on:** October 01, 2011, 03:48:03 PM »

PC and 360 are like two different versions for me. I've played a bit of the 360 beta and PC alpha/beta. I want to get this on PC but won't be simply cause the player base isn't there with my friends. Cheap ass mofo's who won't update their computers.

So far the only thing I hate the most is the glitchy geometry on the console version. Its so easy to get under the map and kill its not funny. PC plays like a dream and is so frenetic and makes you feel accomplished if you tear it up and get a nice streak going. Also 300 for sneak kill's vs 100 on consoles.

How many of you are getting it on PC?

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #245 on:** October 01, 2011, 05:22:19 PM »

I too got BFBC2 on all three platforms. I'm still debating about PC though as I barely played BFBC2 on pc. Yes to star wars on frostbite though. Hell I'd go for a star trek mod too!

Guess I'll buy it for both, it can't hurt!

And yes PS3 is the weakest link

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #246 on:** October 01, 2011, 05:31:28 PM »

if you get this on anything other than a PC than sorry, you lose.

FatalT · « **Reply #247 on:** October 01, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »

After playing the PC version for about 2 hours or so, I'm not really a fan. The server joining interface is fucking terrible. The gameplay itself is somewhat enjoyable but it's just too off-putting for me to want to buy it.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #248 on:** October 01, 2011, 10:43:03 PM »

shotgun + tactical light = blinding death.

it's like fucking the enemy with god's shining dick.

Vizzys · « **Reply #249 on:** October 01, 2011, 11:36:57 PM »

flashlight is trolling to the max

cool breeze · « **Reply #250 on:** October 01, 2011, 11:58:10 PM »

the flashlight is a cool mechanic but needs to be balanced badly

one round earlier I ran out of ammo and only had my pistol w/flashlight against two guys coming down these stairs. I turned it on, ran out and got them both as they sprayed the area trying to find me. people don't realize you can turn them or laser sights off. always getting blinded by friendlies.

not including conquest is really a dumb idea. It's fun, but right now I'm not too eager to play a slower Call of Duty, which is what the beta feel like, compared to a battlefield game. I have no idea how the 'real' Battlefield 3 multiplayer feels and I'm still not sold on the game. This is like if the Battlefield 1942 demo was Berlin CTF. The Wake Island Conquest demo is what sold a lot of people on the game.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #251 on:** October 02, 2011, 12:06:26 AM »

after getting to play Caspian Border (albeit briefly), I know what the "real" multiplayer will be. I'm not worried in the slightest.

Apparently people are also worried about the bugs in the game. I haven't experienced anything major. The few I have were just minor animation issues and they mean nothing to the gameplay. Anyway, every Battlefield has had issues on release. They'll patch it and all will be well.

cool breeze · « **Reply #252 on:** October 02, 2011, 12:39:11 AM »

I remember Battlefield 1942 having a pre-release patch

pilonv1 · « **Reply #253 on:** October 02, 2011, 05:38:16 AM »

awesome

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #254 on:** October 02, 2011, 08:32:10 AM »

That's how it works for all EA games. There's nothing DICE can do about it so don't take it out on them.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #255 on:** October 02, 2011, 11:14:05 AM »

Played it. Not gonna buy it.

Cod is still more fun.

Another loser game by EA.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #256 on:** October 02, 2011, 12:38:00 PM »

I went and paid off both MW 3 and BF 3 last week and I think the beta shows a lot of potential for the gameplay of Bf3 (although its very buggy)

That being said it does tickle me a bit to see some of the letdown from this beta as some of the bf 3 fanboys were getting very annoying with their hype.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #257 on:** October 02, 2011, 01:12:26 PM »

what letdown? everyone who has played conquest caspian border says it's amazing (myself included). nobody hyped Operation Metro Rush because everyone already knew it wasn't very good.

cool breeze · « **Reply #258 on:** October 02, 2011, 01:20:23 PM »

caspian border really needed to be an option. even if it's buggy, it's not like metro isn't buggy too.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #259 on:** October 02, 2011, 02:17:03 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on October 02, 2011, 01:12:26 PM

what letdown? everyone who has played conquest caspian border says it's amazing (myself included). nobody hyped Operation Metro Rush because everyone already knew it wasn't very good.

Wasn't speaking about this board. Was speaking in general Internet terms and in those terms there has been a backlash against that beta. Not that I care or that it changes anything about my buying decision.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #260 on:** October 02, 2011, 05:32:56 PM »

Finally got a chance to play some on my own 360 at home. My impressions are roughly the same as the PS 3 version. It doesn't look really amazing on either version and its a very unremarkable 30 frames of course on console

Maybe they are saving all the eye-candy for the sp campaign. I thought Crysis 2 looked ordinary in the mp and great in the sp so maybe that will happen here although as I always say Idon't really care about graphics. I generally care more about frame rate.

The game is fun. And I say that for a map I don't really like, and a mode I don't really like, and a buggy ass "beta". When it all clicks and you are in a good squad or a good team, its really fun. There are lots of little complaints I have but this demo is so buggy I'll save that stuff for the actual game.

Vizzys · « **Reply #261 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:04:35 PM »

saw this on reddit

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #262 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:48:33 PM »

i'm the only person who ever disarms

cool breeze · « **Reply #263 on:** October 03, 2011, 01:10:51 AM »

that image is very true because teamwork is teflon for these people

on most servers I'm the only one reviving teammates when we're attacking. tickets, people. this is why we lose. hit Q to spot the enemy! provide covering fire! there's a suppression mechanic for that purpose alone. don't go prone and inch past a corner, trying to snipe the guy; either attempt to spot him so teammates can support you or support them by shooting blindly in the enemy's general location. don't plant the bomb and run away, you need to defend that shit from close and far range; multiple teammates, not just a squad.

granted, there's no commo rose or proper way to give commands, but still.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #264 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:08:03 PM »

Played with a party of my friends this evening. The party system is fucked up and broken in the beta but when we were finally able to luck into it working it was pretty fucking awesome. As usual a squad that is actually playing right can wreck shit.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #265 on:** October 06, 2011, 12:12:27 PM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Vizzys · « **Reply #266 on:** October 07, 2011, 04:49:44 AM »

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925967583255/

maxy · « **Reply #267 on:** October 07, 2011, 03:15:15 PM »

Mr. Carmack,where are you?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #268 on:** October 07, 2011, 03:40:43 PM »

holy shit

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #269 on:** October 07, 2011, 04:06:53 PM »

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #270 on:** October 07, 2011, 05:01:39 PM »

That looks pretty fuckin good

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #271 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:21:03 PM »

So the beta ends tomorrow.

I ended up getting to like level 18 or so.

Like I said no point in discussing weapon balancing and stuff like that. I'm assuming nearly all of that will be adjusted for release.

Something that they said they will address but I'm a bit concerned about is hit detection. They claim that will also be addressed but its currently a big problem in the beta. You run around a corner and still get killed. Or you know you hit somebody in a firefight and when you look at the killcam it says they are at 100%. Here is a video that sort of covers the issue. Not really sure why this happening. I thought this was the whole point of dedicated servers.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Still I've very excited to get the full game later in the month and be able to talk about the actual good stuff and bad stuff.

cool breeze · « **Reply #272 on:** October 10, 2011, 12:30:25 PM »

gotdamn dark souls distracted me and I missed out on Caspian Border in the beta. whatever, I'm buying it in two weeks anyway.

and yeah, hit detection is wonky. Many previews of the final code sound like a big improvement.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #273 on:** October 10, 2011, 12:44:31 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 09, 2011, 10:21:03 PM

You run around a corner and still get killed.

this was also in Bad Company 2.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #274 on:** October 10, 2011, 12:50:23 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on October 10, 2011, 12:44:31 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 09, 2011, 10:21:03 PM
You run around a corner and still get killed.

this was also in Bad Company 2.

It's far worse and more frequent than what ever happened to me in Bad Company 2.

They even specifically address it in their FAQ.

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10. Why is the hit detection seemingly different from Battlefield: Bad Company 2?
The netcode is one of the many things that we are testing as part of the Open Beta and is not necessarily reflective of the final retail game. The DICE team appreciates and has heard the feedback you’ve provided and is further optimizing online play.

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/06/246-dfj-246-dfj.aspx

cool breeze · « **Reply #275 on:** October 10, 2011, 11:43:39 PM »

[youtube=560,345]3P27vnyN8iI[/youtube]

sniper hitting guys from 900 meters. granted it's the best of this guy, but some of those shots are amazing.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #276 on:** October 10, 2011, 11:55:03 PM »

Interesting read

tl;dr version: They've changed the damage model back to a Bad Company 2 model. Guns were more lethal in the beta by comparison.

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Last week, I spent some six hours with a not-quite-final-but-close version of Battlefield 3. I think EA and DICE would like for me to talk about the single player but really, I don't have anything more to say about it than I did a few weeks ago. I can't talk about most of the multiplayer maps I played with any specificity, other than the Grand Bazaar level, which, hallelujah, had a tank in it. But at this point, I feel confident in making the following statement:

Releasing a beta for Battlefield 3 might be the biggest mistake EA has made with its biggest game this year.

Or, more specifically, releasing this Battlefield 3 beta has been a spectacular miscalculation on EA's part. It isn't just the technical issues, though those are distressing. DICE has insisted that the open Battlefield 3 beta is very much that: a beta. And I think that if they had released it six weeks earlier, it would be easier to swallow.

DICE has insisted publicly that the beta that released was an old build caught up in the vagaries of console manufacturer certification, but a) most gamers have no idea what that even means, b) most gamers will never see that information, and c) EA and DICE are fully aware of the amount of time it takes to get content through the certification process.

I don't know that we've ever seen a console beta with as many major technical issues as the Battlefield 3 beta; I know that we haven't seen one recently. And whether DICE and EA care to admit it, there's a public expectation that console betas will be more functional than the version of Battlefield 3 being offered now. And DICE has conducted betas on console before, most recently with Battlefield: Bad Company 2, which did not have the myriad technical issues that Battlefield 3 does.

But that's not the main reason that this beta has been a mistake. The main problem with the Battlefield 3 beta – the one that's out right this moment – is that it doesn't play like Battlefield 3 does now, how I assume the final game will play.

There are major gameplay balance differences between the two. Weapons feel different, with different fire rates and recoil. And the damage model has been radically shifted. Death comes quickly in the beta, situated more towards Call of Duty's durability, or even last year's DICE-developed Medal of Honor multiplayer. Firefights in the beta prioritize reflexes over tactics, which is a departure from Bad Company 2.

This is not the case with Battlefield 3 as it is now. The version of Battlefield 3 that I spent hours playing last week has weapons and damage that feel like Battlefield Bad Company 2. This, if you aren't sure, is a good thing. It changes the dynamics of firefights, allowing for each side to take and hold positions, and making flanking and tactical coordination much more viable. The increased player survivability also make vehicles in Battlefield 3 more fair than they would be with the beta's damage models.

Getting the drop on someone isn't the end of a fight in the version of Battlefield 3 I played last week. You have to be persistent, and you have to watch your ass to make sure you aren't left holding your, uh, empty gun in your hand if the guy you murdered has a teammate around the corner.

It leads to more interesting, frantic firefights, including one moment where I killed one enemy with my M4, shot another that came around the corner from the hip, and had to switch to my sidearm to handle yet another opponent a moment later. This happened all the time in Bad Company 2, and it's one of the things that gave it an identity separate from other modern military shooters. Requiring more ammo per kill also makes the support class more important – as you run out of ammo, you'll be looking for that resupply. Battlefield 3 has made machine gunners your source of ammo, which means you'll probably need to fall back to resupply.

It's an example of one change resulting in a cascade of differences in how Battlefield 3 will play when it's released later this month than the beta does now. As it stands now, Battlefield 3's beta is a wellspring of misinformation about what your final Battlefield 3 experience will be. I'm glad for that – I enjoyed what I've played of this more-final build of Battlefield 3 much more than any time I've spent with the game throughout the year. DICE and EA told me last week that they've been taking player feedback from the beta into account, though I have a hard time comprehending how they could make such sweeping changes based entirely on player feedback. But the question is whether or not what EA and DICE have let people at home play early has done more harm than good for Battlefield 3's prospects.

We'll find out soon. Battlefield 3 is scheduled for release on October 25th.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/10/the-beta-and-battlefield-3/

cool breeze · « **Reply #277 on:** October 10, 2011, 11:59:21 PM »

there will probably still be a hardcore mode like BC2. BF3 felt closer to BC2 hardcore (or vanilla CoD) to me.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #278 on:** October 11, 2011, 12:01:43 AM »

I like the damage model in BC 2 but I was also digging the higher damage model in the beta because it was a change. Of course it was hard to evaluate it because so many guns were overpowered especially the smg's in the beta.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #279 on:** October 11, 2011, 05:35:12 AM »

that's awesome. one of my complaints had been the fact that death comes far too quickly so changing the damage model to feel more like BC2 is very good news.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #280 on:** October 11, 2011, 10:08:39 AM »

Quote from: twitter

VGZClarity Michael
@Demize99 There's been a few sources saying that the damage from the beta has been lowered significantly. Is this true?
6 hours ago
in reply to @VGZClarity ↑

@Demize99
Alan Kertz
@VGZClarity We fixed a damage bug, the base combat speed is the same.

So sounds like base damage wasn't changed but some damage bugs were fixed.

maxy · « **Reply #281 on:** October 17, 2011, 11:06:54 AM »

PC version is floating around.

10GB

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #282 on:** October 19, 2011, 09:19:03 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

One week away. I bet you the servers don't work the first day on consoles despite the beta and EA is all like the game is so much more popular than we thought so that's why its not working. At least that is what happens every time in Battlefield.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #283 on:** October 20, 2011, 08:16:23 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32001366&postcount=16660

Not sure what's dumber. A reviewer who feels the need to come on to a messageboard (and GAF of all places. It's like going down to elementary school to argue with kids) and "defend' himself.

Or game fanboys who can't tolerate the very thought that the game they've dreamed about may have issues.

maxy · « **Reply #284 on:** October 21, 2011, 02:07:10 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

hmm

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #285 on:** October 21, 2011, 09:06:15 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #286 on:** October 21, 2011, 09:20:42 AM »

Best Buy has a 50% trade-in bonus towards this if you preorder before/on the 22nd. Think I'm gonna pack up Batman and Dead Island, looking at the trade values on the site I'd get 76.50 for the pair, about what I'd clear on ebay after the final value and paypal fees.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #287 on:** October 21, 2011, 05:35:46 PM »

traded/preordered

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #288 on:** October 22, 2011, 11:11:17 AM »

console server browser

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

part of first level on 360

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #289 on:** October 22, 2011, 11:18:49 AM »

reminds me of all those "infiltrate the sub/train" missions in the old medal of honor or cod world war 2 games

drew · « **Reply #290 on:** October 22, 2011, 11:56:56 AM »

damn, i hate to say it but the 360 version looks kind of rough

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #291 on:** October 22, 2011, 11:58:16 AM »

Quote from: drew on October 22, 2011, 11:56:56 AM

damn, i hate to say it but the 360 version looks kind of rough

Did you play the beta? That looked rough.

By comparison that video looked gorgeous.

drew · « **Reply #292 on:** October 22, 2011, 12:02:09 PM »

yeah i did, but i don't remember seeing the crappy textures that are in that video, i remember the trees in the first area being jaggy as all hell though

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #293 on:** October 23, 2011, 12:14:53 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

maxy · « **Reply #294 on:** October 23, 2011, 01:40:43 AM »

Quite a difference,hd pack adds some geometry too.

It could be some trollish comparison though,like taking a pic before textures load up.

cool breeze · « **Reply #295 on:** October 23, 2011, 01:52:13 AM »

yeah, um, yeah. I'm skeptical because those are N64 textures. Or the Wii port. Either way, EA or DICE shouldn't want any of their audience to think the game looks like that.

maxy · « **Reply #296 on:** October 23, 2011, 05:43:42 AM »

let's not overreact

it looks fine in this comparison

[youtube=560,345]3HphJIeXwOI[/youtube]

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #297 on:** October 23, 2011, 08:00:22 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 23, 2011, 06:38:42 AM

No it doesn't.

No wonder they've been hiding the 360 version.

I hope the 360 version prompts you to download the texture pack when you boot up the game. Otherwise I see a lot of people being very pissed off.

maxy · « **Reply #298 on:** October 23, 2011, 10:11:49 AM »

360 version is out so 360 BF3 is all over youtube

favorite comments

"Did you install texture pack?"
"err...No"

"WHY?YOU MUST INSTALL IT!!!!"

"What is this HD pack that people talk about?Were can I get it,can I download it from Live?Is it free?"

haha

archie4208 · « **Reply #299 on:** October 23, 2011, 12:27:52 PM »

EA should have included the texture pack as an online pass.

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