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Title: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2012, 02:41:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/05uGC.jpg)
First thread: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=26432.0

More sexposition, more violence, more gay subtext. Sadly none of this:
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The Qartheen fashion for women leaves one breast exposed
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Discuss

TAG all  major spoilers for stuff that hasn't aired, try to keep any book talk regulated to ACOK if possible. The book thread: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=36480.0
:drudge
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 01, 2012, 04:05:09 PM
wat time do shows pop up on hbo go?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2012, 04:56:03 PM
Right away
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Vizzys on April 01, 2012, 07:45:34 PM
will watch for tyrion swagger
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 01, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2012, 07:55:21 PM
will watch for tyrion swagger

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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 01, 2012, 08:28:14 PM
BRING ON THE WINTER AND MORE STARK IDIOCY
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 01, 2012, 10:07:32 PM
I keep being amazed by what a good job casting they've done.  Mellisandre is just right.  Even Tonks as Osha is awesome.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 01, 2012, 10:20:42 PM
and Cassie from skins as Wildling Wife #24!

also, good lord, Joff and Cersei suffer from permanent  bitch face
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2012, 10:35:41 PM
I promised my brother I wouldn't watch it until he got here.....baah, I might just watch it if he doesn't get his ass here soon
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 01, 2012, 10:38:45 PM
It was a good episode for fans of the book.  It's a little rushed though.  Still a good premiere.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 01, 2012, 10:47:26 PM
It was a bunch of exposition and setting shit up for action later.  I enjoyed it, but I'm already pretty firmly in the "this makes a way better show than it did a series of books" camp, and I read the first three books over ten years ago.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2012, 10:49:58 PM
Seems like a lot of folks were confused by stuff. That's only going to get worse as the series progresses, assuming it does; I doubt it lasts past the third book.

about to start watching :bow
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 01, 2012, 10:54:27 PM
I think they should, of necessity, make stuff less complicated to make a better show.  Fuck staying "true" to the original material; if it will make a better show, cut and simplify a bunch of shit.  The books definitely have suffered from an overabundance of characters and dithering, hopefully the showrunners will make the right decision and opt not to do a bunch of unnecessary horseshit.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
I don't think that's much of a problem in the first two books, although obviously they've cut out entire storylines (the Reeds, Catelyn's family/Riverrun, etc) this season. The general story can be told while cutting characters and mixing other characters together. That'll get harder to do in ASOS, but is still doable. After that they will have to make some major changes. I'd imagine AFFC will be mixed with ADWD.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 01, 2012, 11:06:36 PM
I don't really see the series losing steam until it has to deal with AFFC.  By then Martin will probably have died without finishing the rest of the books anyway, so it will be a moot point.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on April 01, 2012, 11:21:03 PM
I don't really see the series losing steam until it has to deal with AFFC.  By then Martin will probably have died without finishing the rest of the books anyway, so it will be a moot point.

Agreed.

And BTW, that purging scene!  SO MUCH BETTER THAN IN THE BOOK.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 01, 2012, 11:25:23 PM
seems like HBO gave them a bigger budget judging from that preview bit (ignore the wolf) 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 01, 2012, 11:26:04 PM
I don't really see the series losing steam until it has to deal with AFFC.  By then Martin will probably have died without finishing the rest of the books anyway, so it will be a moot point.

bah I said no book spoilers BUT:

affc/adwd:
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Now that I think about it, I do think it's possible to create a compelling season (or two) based off both books, which are technically one book anyway. The three main storylines of those novels all deal with power and fit the show's main theme: Cersei, Jon, and Dany. Cersei and Jon have very good chapters in those books, and I think Dany's could be edited to make it better and shorter. Tyrion's story could also be compacted, eliminating many of the characters on the boat; you'd really just need Old Griff, Young Griff, and maybe a female character who would serve the roll of the 3-4 other characters on the boat.

But what about Arrianne Martel, Quentyn Martell, all the Greyjoys except Theon, Sam, etc? I'm not saying those were bad chapters, but will viewers be interested in any of those stories, especially the new characters? Will people be interested in Littlefinger and Sansa scheming, or Brienne searching for her, or Arya's training, etc? Likewise as the actor playing Bran gets older it'll be kind of hard having him carried around by Hodor (I imagine they'll use a smaller double, and camera tricks but still).
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 01, 2012, 11:31:58 PM
They should just make FFC and DWD all one season, and GRRM should leave it up to the writers of the show to take their own liberties to make a better story.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 01, 2012, 11:35:40 PM
90 minutes to go for us on the west coast!!!!!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 02, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
the whore who "pretends she doesn't speak the common tongue" at the end is a porn star. cant remember the name.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 02, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
God I hate catelyn
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 02, 2012, 12:30:24 AM
That was an amazing episode, much better than the pilot from S1. You can tell everyone is more confident in their roles, and the budget increase can be seen in nearly every aspect. Alan Taylor directed the last two episodes of S1, which were significantly better than the previous episodes in terms of cinematography and pacing. He directed this episode as well, and once again delivered an impressive hour of television. One thing I didn't like about the earlier eps from S1 was that they were shot like a standard television show, and lacked any scope or epic scale; Taylor actually uses some interesting shots and nice camerawork.

I liked how the comet tied the various scenes together as well.

Perhaps my only two gripes, which are book based: I don't like the idea of Robb demanding Catelyn treat with Renly. In the novel she comes up with the idea to do it because she knows Renly, and figures it can be her last service to Robb before she goes back to Winterfell. She gave Robb a lot of good advice, I hope we don't see her role marginalized as he seemingly obsesses over the war.

Also the Littlefinger/Cersei scene...hm. It was well done (outside of Gillen's weird wavering accent, wtf was up with that), I just don't like the idea of Littlefinger putting himself in danger by insulting Cersei. Sure he'd do it in a backhand, subtle way but that was too overt. That being said, I like the fact that he only seemed to do it because she needled him on Brandon Stark/Catelyn; the writers at least seemed to know they had to justify that scene. And I loved Cersei's casual display of power. Oh man, THAT is the Cersei that was missing throughout season one. I didn't like Headley in S1 but so far she has stepped up her performance for S2.

It's like all the actors saw Dinklage win an Emmy/Golden Globe and said "huh, so we can get praise and awards for this fantasy show? Time to get to work!" I love it.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 02, 2012, 12:36:26 AM
I still don't really like her, to be honest.  Her performance during the small council meeting was bad and forced.

But the actor who plays Robb, so fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 02, 2012, 12:46:00 AM
That's because catelyn is shit
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 02, 2012, 12:59:23 AM
The CGI looked about as good as I expected it to look. Honestly it looked similar to the werewolves in Twilight, which obviously has a larger budget.

In terms of specific scenes:

-I really liked the first Bran scene with Luwin, governing.

-Melisandre was amazing. Initially there was some concern over the first pics we got of her with that big wig and baggy dress, but in the episode she looked great as did her dress. I really liked that final shot of her, after killing Cressen. I suppose my only complaint about that could be that you don't really get a sense of who Davos is, but I'd imagine that will be addressed later

-I LOVED the Night's Watch scenes. Some decent humor; I really like the bit we got of Dolorous Edd. Really liked Craster as well as the set. Some nice foreboding with the sons and daughters

-Looks like Ros has taken the place of the brothel mistress in ACOK, which makes sense; I pretty much figured that's where her character was going after her introduction in S1. While I hated that gratuitous sex scene involving her and Littlefinger in S1, I liked the homage to it in this episode.

-Finally oh man, dat baby killing. They should have placed some Prince Of Egypt music during that
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on April 02, 2012, 03:49:41 AM
I thought the wolf looked fine. Not much happened this episode, but I guess it's got a lot of stuff to setup. I thought it was kind of funny they decided to end the episode with baby slaughtering.

Also, watching this show makes your roomies think you're watching porn.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 02, 2012, 09:57:22 AM
http://www.teefury.com/

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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on April 02, 2012, 11:00:22 AM
watching the shit out of it right now :bow
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on April 02, 2012, 11:36:06 AM
Stark mom needs to gtfo
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 02, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
This season is only 10 episodes again. I was hoping that we'd get 13 this time around.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 02, 2012, 11:52:24 AM
whoa the second ep is out on HBO Dutch. It's part of a Go promotion there
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 02, 2012, 11:58:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RfaXFswt2g
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 02, 2012, 12:00:55 PM
Oh shit! hope that shit leaks!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 02, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
I thought the wolf looked fine. Not much happened this episode, but I guess it's got a lot of stuff to setup. I thought it was kind of funny they decided to end the episode with baby slaughtering.

Also, watching this show makes your roomies think you're watching porn.

that's every HBO show.  by the time I was done with The Wire I could sense when it'd cut into the middle of a sex scene.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 02, 2012, 12:52:47 PM
Loved the episode but hated some of the small changes they did, and I really fucking hope they aren't thinking on starting a romantic relationship between Danny and that Blood Rider.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 02, 2012, 01:02:12 PM
Guesses on the ratings (which will be released tomorrow)? Ever the pessimist, I'll go with 3.3 or 3.4; which isn't bad, but not the growth expected. Last season's finale reached 3.04, and many people expect the show to get a 50% increase in viewers like True Blood did. Given all the confusion I saw on twitter (anecdotal but still), I'm growing weary. Many people had no idea the show was back already, which seems ridiculous given the huge marketing campaign.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 03, 2012, 01:40:00 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/magazine/peter-dinklage-was-smart-to-say-no.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&smid=fb-share

Pretty interesting interview with Peter Dinklage.  Although I have to say, judging from his attitude towards not wanting to play an elf or leprechaun, he might have some issues with what happens to Tyrion in the 5th book.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cormacaroni on April 03, 2012, 02:10:36 AM
He hasn't read beyond the 1st apparently.

I thought the 1st ep was fairly dull, actually. So much recapping and set-up, and all stuff I know backwards. The risk was always that they tried to cram too much plot in at the expense of character, and it was a little too much in that direction last night. They're going to have to do an awful lot of cutting back and forth between all those POVs.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2012, 02:47:08 AM
Yea, ep1 was more them resetting the board. Had to be done, and I thought they pulled it off very well.

I just watched ep2, which is available in some areas of Europe right now on HBO Go. Not as good as the first episode. And it has perhaps the ugliest sex scene I've ever seen. I pride myself in never seeing fugly women fuck...  :'(

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fully nude Melisandre sort of made up for it though :rock
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on April 03, 2012, 02:53:00 AM
Gonna watch ep 2 when i get home
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 03, 2012, 03:28:38 AM
Is the episode 2 leak in HD?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2012, 03:41:46 AM
the one I saw wasn't, but there are HD rips out; I couldn't get them to dl fast enough. And me being impatient, I couldn't wait for next weekend so I sat through a version with the fps off a bit, so it looked like a soap opera at times. Video quality wasn't bad overall though.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 03, 2012, 03:52:10 AM
I see. I think I'll wait.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on April 03, 2012, 03:54:25 AM
3 flavas at the place i usually go

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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Robo on April 03, 2012, 11:05:04 AM
Can I get a PM to the place you usually go?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2012, 11:52:53 AM
first episode was awesome, one of my favourite porn actresses played a bit part, I hope they bring her back. Masie Dee
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
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#GameOfThrones season two premiere: 3.9m viewers, 2.0 demo. More than doubles the series premiere audience in 18-49.

The 10pm and 11pm repeats of the #GameofThrones S2 premiere garnered 1.47m and 0.9m viewers, respectively.

Total audience number for the #GameofThrones S2 premiere: 6.278m. This doesn't include On Demand or HBOGO viewers.

Very impressive ratings; it beat True Blood's S2 season premier. I have a feeling it will decrease next week due to the early release of an episode on HBO Go
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on April 03, 2012, 12:37:23 PM
Ratings would also be higher if you dirty poors actually paid for HBO. :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 03, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
I actually subscribed! 

...then I'll cancel it when Season 2 is over.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 03, 2012, 12:42:20 PM
I actually subscribed! 

...then I'll cancel it when Season 2 is over.

my parents might do the same thing

can't wait to use their HBO GO info
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 03, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
I'm using HBO Go to watch a bunch of series I've missed, like last season of Eastbound and Down.  The player is kinda meh but whatever.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 03, 2012, 12:46:24 PM
I actually already have someone else's info (and I've been watching E&B, too) but he has Comcast, so I can't watch with the 360 app. I need my parents' FiOS shit.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
I'm using HBO Go as well

I don't watch enough television to justify cable
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on April 03, 2012, 10:10:26 PM
Just watched Ep 2.  How much of that was actually in the book?  :lol

Not saying I didn't like some of the... improvised scenes... 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 03, 2012, 10:25:17 PM
Just watched Ep 2.  How much of that was actually in the book?  :lol

Not saying I didn't like some of the... improvised scenes...

Uh...I'd say a lot of it, if not 95% of it?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2012, 10:36:11 PM
Just watched Ep 2.  How much of that was actually in the book?  :lol

Not saying I didn't like some of the... improvised scenes...

lol,I know what scene youre talking

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the part where the dude wipes the cum from the hookers mouth then the old dude starts frenching her straight after  :lol
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 03, 2012, 10:37:20 PM
haha well I mean, that was a bit "wtf"

so much uggo sex in this show
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
I liked the part where the other guy was porking that chick in the boat then he used his extreme muscle to flip her over. I got a semi
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on April 03, 2012, 10:40:18 PM
Not just that, but

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Stannis fucking Melisandre.  I thought it was implied but never actually written out.  And I didn't think Bronn was ever made head of the Gold Cloakes.  Other than than, the cum wiping scene was awesome.
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It's entirely possible that it's just from where it's been a few months since I read it.

I have to say that the uggo sex, while daunting to watch, was extremely true to the novel.  I did appreciate that about it.  They went to great lengths to find that fugly of a girl with saggy tits like hers to take her shirt off and basically be a 2-minute soft-core whore.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 03, 2012, 10:41:20 PM
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Bronn being made commander was almost beat for beat the same exact thing as the book.  Melisandre and Stannis...heavily implied, yes.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on April 03, 2012, 10:43:18 PM
Like I said, it's been a while since I read it so there was always the possibility that I had forgot about it.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 03, 2012, 10:44:58 PM
Not just that, but

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Stannis fucking Melisandre.  I thought it was implied but never actually written out.  And I didn't think Bronn was ever made head of the Gold Cloakes.  Other than than, the cum wiping scene was awesome.
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It's entirely possible that it's just from where it's been a few months since I read it.

I have to say that the uggo sex, while daunting to watch, was extremely true to the novel.  I did appreciate that about it.  They went to great lengths to find that fugly of a girl with saggy tits like hers to take her shirt off and basically be a 2-minute soft-core whore.

I do know that Maisie Dee who played a whore in S2E1 does a lot of amateur porn. She's on Abby Winters as well as several UK bukkake/gangbang sites

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Maisie_Dee

bad photo of her w/ too much makeup. I love cute mousy girls
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 03, 2012, 11:53:55 PM
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Bronn being made commander was almost beat for beat the same exact thing as the book.  Melisandre and Stannis...heavily implied, yes.
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Bronn wasn'tt made commander, Jacelyn Bywater was; Slynt argues he is too honorable and rigid to be commander, which is why Tyrion chose him. Bronn was tasked with creating a sell sword army for Tyrion. I like this change because it compacts things instead of making people remember another bit character. One could argue it defeats the purpose though: Tyrion specifically chose Bywater because he was honorable. He had to know Bronn would kill a baby if payed, even before asking

Also the episode states Stannis had no children which isn't true. Melisandre confirms she had sex with Stannis on multiple occasions, so that part is true just never shown.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 04, 2012, 01:09:58 AM
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Bronn being made commander was almost beat for beat the same exact thing as the book.  Melisandre and Stannis...heavily implied, yes.
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
Bronn wasn'tt made commander, Jacelyn Bywater was; Slynt argues he is too honorable and rigid to be commander, which is why Tyrion chose him. Bronn was tasked with creating a sell sword army for Tyrion. I like this change because it compacts things instead of making people remember another bit character. One could argue it defeats the purpose though: Tyrion specifically chose Bywater because he was honorable. He had to know Bronn would kill a baby if payed, even before asking

Also the episode states Stannis had no children which isn't true. Melisandre confirms she had sex with Stannis on multiple occasions, so that part is true just never shown.
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Maybe they're cutting out lame ass Princess Shireen.  If so, FUCKING GOOD.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2012, 01:19:27 AM
I don't see the point in cutting her out, it's not like she had to be shown. I wanted to see greyscale  :'(
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on April 04, 2012, 01:43:09 AM
WINTER IS COMING

Prepare the snowballs.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on April 04, 2012, 01:46:46 AM
LOL the drawf was perfect in episode 2, what an imp lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brawndolicious on April 04, 2012, 04:20:50 PM
I just caught up to episode 2 now. There weren't this many sex scenes in the first season's episodes but apparently most of these scenes were at least implied in the books. It is treading into soft core territory though.

Regarding the stuff with the Night's Watch...
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The king beyond the wall is assembling an army to overrun the wall and then take over Winterfell?

I'm assuming that means the Night's Watch will cut a deal where they let that wildling army pass through the gates so the wall won't be too weakened to repel the white walkers. At which point I can't see Jon Snowe and this abandoned baby that he presumably saved sticking around.
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It would be nice of they give Jon a lot more plot this season as he is the most likable of Ned Stark's sons.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 05, 2012, 09:20:20 PM
New article from WiC on the money behind the show. I'm surprised at how profitable the show has been so quickly

The finances of Game of Thrones
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/04/the-finances-of-game-of-thrones/#more-15567

Including this tidbit on a certain battle:
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The Blackwater episode, as the director puts it, “is pretty much one long battle, on a much bigger scale than anything in Centurion. I couldn’t believe the scale of production value I had. It was as big, if not bigger, than most features I’ve done: 400 extras, costumes, horses, stunts, fires… We had a full-size galleon to play with and a green-screen set that was doubling as several other ships, and we were setting that on fire and throwing people overboard. Then there’s a Saving Private Ryan-like beach battle, with all these guys getting shot to pieces, an attack on a castle.”

ffffffuuuuuuu
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brawndolicious on April 06, 2012, 02:36:34 AM
I'm a little hard right now.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 08, 2012, 10:05:27 PM
The Iron Islands looked awesome!

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 08, 2012, 10:15:28 PM
Fuck the sex scenes tonight
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 08, 2012, 10:19:16 PM
Possibly the ugliest girl I've ever seen naked.

But DAT MELISANDRE hnnnngggg
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 08, 2012, 10:22:35 PM
Her tits  :yuck
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 08, 2012, 10:25:25 PM
they looked like large cashews
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 08, 2012, 10:29:56 PM
Ghost looked awesome!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 08, 2012, 10:32:32 PM
It's annoying that the opening title sequence pans to Vaes Dothrak. That's not where she is, yo!
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Post by: Diunx on April 08, 2012, 11:01:14 PM
and the wall too.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 08, 2012, 11:06:45 PM
Saladar Saan was badass :bow

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1xbd464041qcxymno1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 08, 2012, 11:13:06 PM
Liam Cunningham looks like a badass dude. and he's got a great voice.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: whiteACID on April 09, 2012, 01:20:20 AM
I don't see the point in cutting her out, it's not like she had to be shown. I wanted to see greyscale  :'(
This.

I was dissapointed she is not in the show, because I wanted to see how that would look.
Also dissapointed with the actress playing Asha. Not at all what I pictured her, not nearly as hot either.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
The more I think about it, maybe she could still be in the show just not this season. Melisandre says Stannis' wife has given him no sons, only stillborns; perhaps she meant only stillborn sons. Which could mean he has a daughter, but her not being a boy makes her irrelevant in Stannis' eyes
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 09, 2012, 01:40:53 AM
they looked like large cashews
:lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 09, 2012, 01:47:47 AM
They also said his wife was sick, so maybe she has Greyscale.  Whatever.  More Melisandre fuckin', plz.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on April 09, 2012, 01:49:29 AM
In a fit of ennui, I watched S2E2 with the family tonight, having not seen past S1E2 so far.
...Apparently a lot happens in S1.   :'(

first episode was awesome, one of my favourite porn actresses played a bit part, I hope they bring her back. Masie Dee
GodDAMN. I should have looked who posted that before Google Image searching for it. Jesus.


Not just that, but

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Stannis fucking Melisandre.  I thought it was implied but never actually written out.  And I didn't think Bronn was ever made head of the Gold Cloakes.  Other than than, the cum wiping scene was awesome.
[close]

It's entirely possible that it's just from where it's been a few months since I read it.

I have to say that the uggo sex, while daunting to watch, was extremely true to the novel.  I did appreciate that about it.  They went to great lengths to find that fugly of a girl with saggy tits like hers to take her shirt off and basically be a 2-minute soft-core whore.
How about that one, Scenester, up to your standards?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 02:00:56 AM
I can't possibly imagine watching that episode with a bunch of family members. Especially dat snowball scene.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 02:06:03 AM
GoT? With family members? Due to the sex scenes it is now unbelievably awkward. I watch it with my dad and even we grimaced at some of this shit.

Chrono watched S2E2 with family members but didn't feel awkward seeing not only three sex scenes, but a dudes spunk on a chicks face being wiped off? And your main issue was wondering what the hell was going on in the story? EXPLAIN
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brawndolicious on April 09, 2012, 03:43:45 AM
they looked like large cashews

I thought they just looked like bewbs. Do you prefer peanuts? Lima beans?

Sunflower seeds??
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on April 09, 2012, 04:55:32 AM
it was like her boobs were trying to run away from each other
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 09, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
I'm sad to say those aren't the uglies boobs I have ever seen :'(
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on April 09, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
GoT? With family members? Due to the sex scenes it is now unbelievably awkward. I watch it with my dad and even we grimaced at some of this shit.

Chrono watched S2E2 with family members but didn't feel awkward seeing not only three sex scenes, but a dudes spunk on a chicks face being wiped off? And your main issue was wondering what the hell was going on in the story? EXPLAIN

It was like this:
"Who's that? Why's he doing that? And who's that. (silence) (silence) (squirming) Ew. Oh, ew. Who's that?"


it was like her boobs were trying to run away from each other
:rofl
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
it was like her boobs were trying to run away from each other

:rofl
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Robo on April 09, 2012, 01:29:48 PM
I honestly sometimes feel a bit apprehensive about even mentioning the show to some people because of the sort of filth they drag out for the sole purpose of keeping the tone as vulgar as possible.  Like if I'm not the one to initiate the conversation, my first thought is invariably, "really, you watch that show?"  But I guess it's OK because it's HBO.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 09, 2012, 01:37:52 PM
the dude feeling up his sister made me grossed out the most
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
Alfie treating all women like whores is the best since HE'S the biggest whore in the story.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
With Spartacus (S1 and the prologue season), everyone knows it's a trashy cheesy show - even the writers and creators. But that self consciousness works for the show, and notice every time someone recommends it they say "it's trashy but trust me, it's AWESOME."

This show is not supposed to be trashy or cheesy, in fact it's billed as a serious low fantasy adult show. Yet the main thing a new viewer would probably get from the show is that it's ridiculous soft porn with lots of talking and planning. I like the show, and definitely think these two eps are better than the early ones from S1; I also think the final eps of S1 finally reached "great television" heights, and obviously the potential is there for more of that this season. But I really don't like the writers apparent decision that they can't trust their audience, therefore must distract them with WILDE HETERO.

You can tell with the second season of Spartacus that they payed close attention to GoT, and decided to increase the random sex ten fold.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 01:44:05 PM
goddamit, pd. even if gods of the arena is a prequel it's still season 2 of spartacus
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 01:45:28 PM
No it's not! It's S0.5 :smug
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
GoT was always gross, why you guys are all shocked n shit
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 09, 2012, 03:01:28 PM
goddamit, pd. even if gods of the arena is a prequel it's still season 2 of spartacus

http://epguides.com/Spartacus/ (http://epguides.com/Spartacus/)

:hans1
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 03:02:10 PM
:(
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 03:08:15 PM
We talk about some crazy shit on this forum and you guys are all bent outta shape! Thought u liked ur GOT! HAW HAW *lolztrollz*
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 03:12:05 PM
How am I supposed to get regular people to watch this?

you can't
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on April 09, 2012, 03:37:25 PM
I generally dont recommend HBO shows to people- if theyre the right audience, they already know about it.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 04:03:40 PM
The Shield had a dude who stored tons of his sperm in a fridge and tried to impregnate unwilling women to spread his genes. He was an actuary. Like CajoleJuice
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 04:23:15 PM
My dad was asking about KING OF THRONES yesterday. Eh, he reads a lot - a mixture of sports novels/biographies, Dean Koontz type mysteries, and he also dabbles in some fantasy; he's a big Narnia fan and is currently reading the Aragon books...

He's also a very slow reader, so I doubt the series would be for him. He'd probably like the first book given it's pace, but after that who knows.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 09, 2012, 05:03:28 PM
The Shield had a dude who stored tons of his sperm in a fridge and tried to impregnate unwilling women to spread his genes. He was an actuary. Like CajoleJuice

:lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 09, 2012, 05:20:34 PM
Does that mean Cajole makes the maddest bank on the forum? My cuz is an actuary and likes to stay in Acadamia but could easily be making mid-six figures if she wanted (only 32 but had finished all her exams by her mid-20s). My understanding is that they're in crazy short supply (almost swiched from engineering to it myself)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
Sucks that the ONLY actuary portrayed on television was a pervert. I can't think of another profession with such bad luck
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 09, 2012, 10:52:59 PM
Sucks that the ONLY actuary portrayed on television was a pervert. I can't think of another profession with such bad luck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_actuaries
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 09, 2012, 10:55:26 PM
The jizz on face scene was way too much. Most people don't want to see that shit. I can't think of another mainstream show that's taken it that far, or even shown jizz. I guess Six Feet Under had Nate contemplating his sperm in a used condom after he had just fucked Brenda, but that didn't feel trashy; it was almost philosophical in a weird way.

This is just weird shit. How am I supposed to get regular people to watch this?

I hope you're copy and pasting someone's post from GAF.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 09, 2012, 10:56:34 PM
cajole, you had to go to wikipedia to back your argument

this is like me going to wikipedia to find out which black leaders i identify with
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 09, 2012, 10:57:37 PM
Sucks that the ONLY actuary portrayed on television was a pervert. I can't think of another profession with such bad luck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_actuaries

The list of failed law students is probably more interesting.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 09, 2012, 10:58:12 PM
cajole, you had to go to wikipedia to back your argument


He probably typed them in. Hell, he probably created the category.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on April 09, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
I've got CG's siblings hooked on GoT. I wouldn't recommend it to family, but then my mother and siblings watch Dexter together and that's intimate murder porn.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brawndolicious on April 09, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
I've got CG's siblings hooked on GoT. I wouldn't recommend it to family, but then my mother and siblings watch Dexter together and that's intimate murder porn.

Well they both have got incest, so maybe your family is ready for Got.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 09, 2012, 11:17:42 PM
nevermind
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 09, 2012, 11:22:03 PM
Sucks that the ONLY actuary portrayed on television was a pervert. I can't think of another profession with such bad luck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_actuaries

Which one is your Jesse Jackson/leader?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 15, 2012, 10:01:38 PM
tonight's ep is up on HBO Go
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 15, 2012, 10:08:35 PM
episode!!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
they did a real good job of showing Tyrion's plotting. It was something i remember having a hard time following in the book.
i didn't like the Shae/Sansa scene
Man that scene with Theon burning the letter? that was great.
I liked all the stuff with Renly. I finally know how to pronounce Brienne. However FUCK how they pronounce Margaery. I pronounce it Mar-gary. Not Mar-jary. Also found it weird that they're adding more to her character. I guess it's because they will likely be removing characters later on and she will fill that gap.
love how they are capping the episode with Arya!
[close]

what i like most about this is that they're are managing to move through the story pretty quickly yet it feels like the pace is slow. scenes never feel rushed as well.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 15, 2012, 10:10:10 PM
Yeah tonight's episode was awesome.  The last Arya portion was :o

And yeah, aren't they technically already through like half of the book?  Kinda want them to start with some SoS stuff.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 15, 2012, 10:17:10 PM
I also think Balon Greyjoy is fantastic!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 15, 2012, 10:29:08 PM
Yeah the entire Greyjoy family and Iron Islands stuff is the most intriguing to me at this juncture.  All the Greyjoy actors are great.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 15, 2012, 10:40:45 PM
Episode was ok, the actress they got for Brienne is perfectly cast.

Highlights per the usual were anything Tyrion related.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 15, 2012, 11:28:33 PM
Huge hard on for Natalie Dormer. LAWD JESUS.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 15, 2012, 11:50:16 PM
handsome dwarf is so baller
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 15, 2012, 11:57:57 PM
So, while I was farting around online earlier tonight, I finally discovered what I'm sure most of you already know:  the actress that plays Shae used to do porn.  Like, hardcore porn.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2012, 12:00:09 AM
Holy fuck the Tyrell chick is FUCKING HOT.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2012, 12:05:24 AM
So, while I was farting around online earlier tonight, I finally discovered what I'm sure most of you already know:  the actress that plays Shae used to do porn.  Like, hardcore porn.

holy shit
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 16, 2012, 12:07:32 AM
So, while I was farting around online earlier tonight, I finally discovered what I'm sure most of you already know:  the actress that plays Shae used to do porn.  Like, hardcore porn.

holy shit

Yeeeeeeah.  Apparently she got "discovered" in Europe, did some mainstream movie over there, and won an award for it.  Whereupon it was discovered that she used to, uh, yeah.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Spurgeon on April 16, 2012, 12:09:09 AM
So, while I was farting around online earlier tonight, I finally discovered what I'm sure most of you already know:  the actress that plays Shae used to do porn.  Like, hardcore porn.

Yea, cheggit had a great torrent with all her hardcore scenes compiled. The Great Hard Drive Crash of 2011 was a sad day for me, especially because that site has since shut down.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2012, 12:12:22 AM
I think she's sexy as hell too.  Bonertown like whoa.

Man she does anal, too.  I can dig it.  Tyrion truly landed a ho.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 16, 2012, 12:17:45 AM
Holy fuck the Tyrell chick is FUCKING HOT.

mai waifu
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 16, 2012, 12:21:31 AM
Holy fuck that episode was amazing

dat ending
DEM Margery titties
dat Tyrion :bow

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 16, 2012, 12:51:33 AM
Margery tits were fantastic this episode.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 16, 2012, 12:52:16 AM
The fight choreography is greatly improved in this season. From the Hound's battle in ep1 to the melee and final skirmish (well, "battle" according to Hot Pie), the movement looks far more fluid than the rather slow fighting shown throughout S1 (especially the Ned v Jamie battle). The Night's Watch ambush actually reminded me of the mountain ambush in S1 to some degrees; I thought that was the best fight scene in the first season, and tonight was like an even better version. Yoren was kicking major ass
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2012, 12:52:32 AM
i honestly her preferred tits covered up but slightly revealed during the knight duel more than i did when i saw her with everything off
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2012, 12:57:26 AM
oh himu

(http://i.imgur.com/IpTHX.gif)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 16, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
oh himu

(http://i.imgur.com/IpTHX.gif)

:rofl @ that gif
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 16, 2012, 01:01:49 AM
i honestly her preferred tits covered up but slightly revealed during the knight duel more than i did when i saw her with everything off

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/PhoenixDark1/homo.gif)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2012, 01:30:57 AM
i'm just saying that i fucking love mystery, man

when i see partially revealed tits, it's like,"fuck, i gotta see those tits"

but when i finally see the tits, it was "oh. there's her tits. yay, i guess."
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on April 16, 2012, 01:45:41 AM
Huge hard on for Natalie Dormer. LAWD JESUS.

Yeah, she's got that "I'm almost an innocent" look, with emphasis on the "almost"... v. hot.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 16, 2012, 02:09:45 AM
Ep3:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the end battle was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more epic in the book.  Needed more budget!
[close]
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 16, 2012, 02:42:34 AM
that's saved for the backwater battle
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 16, 2012, 10:25:07 AM
edit: bore TOS
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on April 16, 2012, 10:55:04 AM
Marjorie is hotter than hades, and FUCK Maisie Dee made a return. Love her so much. Fantastic episode
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on April 16, 2012, 01:00:01 PM
Loved the confrontation in that last 15 mins
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 16, 2012, 04:10:56 PM
i honestly her preferred tits covered up but slightly revealed during the knight duel more than i did when i saw her with everything off

She had saggy boobs.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Brehvolution on April 16, 2012, 04:40:13 PM
http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of-thrones
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 16, 2012, 05:51:28 PM
Pretty much nails it. The sex/nudity is pretty childish, and insulting in the sense that clearly the writers don't trust viewers with any information unless someone is having sex or naked in the scene.

and it's working!
Quote
    The third episode of fantasy drama Game of Thrones’ sophomore season held its ground, holding steady with 3.8 million total viewers at 9 p.m. and adding 776,000 additional viewers with an encore broadcast at 11 p.m.

    Sunday’s numbers were on par with last week’s impressive 97 percent retention rate from the Season 2 bow of the series, which has already been renewed for a third season.
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/04/ratings-hold-steady-once-again/#comment-169215
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brob on April 16, 2012, 06:45:44 PM
just watched the first two episodes today. war on babies!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brob on April 16, 2012, 07:52:20 PM
oh man i had forgotten this show had gay sex

still no full frontal tho. hbo hella soft on this hot button issue
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 16, 2012, 07:53:51 PM
do not want
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on April 18, 2012, 09:24:48 PM
http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of-thrones
:rofl

Reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIY5b1JMvGs
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 18, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
BATHROOM BREAK
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2012, 05:52:06 PM
Apparently that annoying twat king Joffrey is attending school in my fair city.

Can't wait to meet him in a pub.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 19, 2012, 07:40:04 PM
It's so weird that he could drink. Looks like a little boy, still.

Only 18-year-old girls should be allowed to drink. Oh wait, they get into bars here anyway.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 19, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
It's so weird that he could drink. Looks like a little boy, still.

Only 18-year-old girls should be allowed to drink. Oh wait, they get into bars here anyway.

It's even more odd when you remember how little he was in Batman Begins, which came out just a few years ago
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on April 20, 2012, 10:03:42 PM
OMG...free HBO on XBL this weekend.

Season 2, here I come  :o
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 22, 2012, 09:44:25 PM
It's up on HBO Go
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 22, 2012, 09:54:40 PM
damn that was good

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Shadow baby!
[close]
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 22, 2012, 11:09:10 PM
As a book reader, this season is letting me down.

:/
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 22, 2012, 11:18:21 PM
Joffrey :wtf
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 22, 2012, 11:54:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PLQ1XfaTuU
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 23, 2012, 12:43:50 AM
As a book reader, this season is letting me down.

:/

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they are really butchering some of my favorite scenes from clash and I don't like this headstrong war nurse bullshit :yuck tbh the shadow baby scene saved this episode everything else was mediocre to terrible.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 23, 2012, 12:50:27 AM
Those of us completely new to the series are loving this. :D
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 23, 2012, 01:37:45 AM
As a book reader, this season is letting me down.

:/

Tell me about it.  I really did not like this episode.  I cannot believe some of the changes and how they are fucking things up.  I feel like each ep is taking more and more liberties this season and I'm worried about how different the series will end up in plot than the books by the end. 

Reading book 2 I really really liked Renly/Stannis so everything Renly/Stannis related has been a disappointment: (spoilers for this season if you haven't read the book)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
-The scene where Stannis/Renly meet in the fields is one of the best scenes in the book.  The tone in the TV version is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.  In the Book Renly is jolly and isn't really taking it seriously.  Like they're going to be play fighting and no one is actually going to die.  He's still acting like a brother playing kings and robbers and not like a king.  Meanwhile Stannis is totally rigid and wise and the way they play off each other is incredibly good in the book.  Then the scene at the end where Renly reaches for something and Stannis is about to draw his sword thinking Renly is going for a weapon and Renly throws him an apple as a friendly brotherly gesture and gives a little quirp about it.  This is important because later on there's a scene with Stannis where he's holding the apple, staring at it, and it shows how conflicted he is and saddened by the loss of his brother that he really deep down didn't want killed because he was still blood related.  Not only in the TV version is Renly kind of serious and a jerk, but THEY LEFT OUT THE APPLE SCENE OMFG#$@%%@%.  I feel like the writers of the TV version just DON'T GET Renly's character.  He's a jolly charismatic fellow, but very green and foolish in war.  There's this fun likeable aspect of him that I feel is missing in this version. 
-Also wtf is up with everyone in westeros knowing Renly is gay.
-Robb scene.  This is awkward because everything they do with Robb is basically fan fiction and could end up badly.  Is the medic girl supposed to be the same one from later in the series?  If so, that sort of fucks up the story of how he met her
-Arya stuff.  I'm a little vague on this, but weren't they supposed to have escaped at the Yoren part and snuck along the river and saw the dead bodies hanging and torturing from across the river.  Then Gendry gets caught and she goes to rescue him and gets caught too?  After screwing up the burning castle fight last ep, it definitely seems like they're going to truncate her adventure because it's really long in the book.
-Everything Storm's End is getting weird.  They've never mentioned Storms End in the show, they haven't shown the castle.  The whole SHADOW BABY thing is supposed to be after Renly's death and AFTER the guardian of the castle defies Stannis and THEN shadow baby.  There's also the whole subplot of how Stannis was always supposed to have Storms End but he didn't get it so he feels strongly about taking Storms End.  Also the subplot about the boy being raised at Storms End.  By doing the Shadow Baby now it seems...like they're going to have it kill Renly and then just skip Storms End entirely as Stannis takes Renly's army in.  Which is cutting really good material.
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What I liked about this ep was:
-Qarth stuff was pretty good
-Tyrion is good as always
-I can kind of forgive the added scene with littlefinger x margery (again, spoilers for the season)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
because it sets up the later deal with highgarden;  though the Renly scene was whatever
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I wouldn't mind them adding so much new material if they weren't cutting so much book material at the same time.  The new scenes just feeling like wasting time when they have so much book stuff to cover.  S1 seemed far more accurate. 

Also kind of an aside, but Davos has like 4 sons in the book.  Now he only has 1?  What?  Why even make that change.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 01:38:22 AM
eh, I'll have to watch that again. Seemed rather average in a lot of areas, mixed with some great spots.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on April 23, 2012, 01:47:23 AM
I enjoyed it. I'm hoping I get to see Joffery get his comeuppance sometime this season. I don't want to see him grown and mature and regret shit. I want him dead in a manner which humiliates his whole rotten family.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on April 23, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
I enjoyed it. I'm hoping I get to see Joffery get his comeuppance sometime this season. I don't want to see him grown and mature and regret shit. I want him dead in a manner which humiliates his whole rotten family.

Well from the line(from Yoren?) about crossbows taking too long to load combined with all the emphasis on Joffery and his crossbow fiddling, I kind of suspect he'll get sliced while trying to crank up his little toy.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 02:59:09 AM
I liked the episode a lot more on the second viewing. My initial reaction was mainly due to a couple scenes: the "Talisa"/Robb one, and the abrupt confrontation between Renly and Stannis. I'll wait and see how the Robb stuff plays out before complaining any more. In terms of the Renly/Stannis scene, it happened out of nowhere which was odd; the arrival of Stannis was a rather big deal in the book, and while I'm fine with the scenery changes it just came off weird. And the interaction...eh. I was hoping for the peach (or apple) scene to be included, it's such a great moment. Some people have complained about Renly but I like the performance here. He comes off as quite the charismatic fool.

I loved everything that involved Tyrion; Dinklage is really owning every scene this season. And Joffery...wow. I can't be the only person who expected something...else to happen when he handed Ros that rod; glad I was wrong lol

All the Arya stuff was great. I love The Tickler, great performance. I also like the change with Tywin at Harenhel instead of you-know-who.

Not a fan of any of the Quarth stuff at all. The city looks great, but that scene felt like some cheesy Sci-Fi channel special. It makes sense that Dany would be rather awkward when confronted by high class nobles, but the scene just came off rather choppy due to Clarke's delivery, and the Xaro intervention was just weird to me, bah.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Vizzys on April 23, 2012, 03:04:11 AM
§hadowbaby
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 03:11:54 AM

Also kind of an aside, but Davos has like 4 sons in the book.  Now he only has 1?  What?  Why even make that change.

Um because why waste money hiring 4 actors when you can just hire one? It makes perfect sense, and tbh his sons don't do much in the book. Compacting them into one character is easier. I like the actor who's playing him as well.

The show is an adaptation. A direct 1:1 copy would not work on television, just as a 1:1 copy of LOTR wouldn't work on film. As such I'm fine with changes and can easily separate the show from the book. I only ask that the general spirit of the characters, and story, be handled faithfully. I'm not a fan of what the show has done to Littlefinger for instance, but that's really the only character problem I have. In terms of tonight's ep, I didn't like what they did with Robb and "Talisa" at all. It's not hard to guess where it's going, but even still...bleh.

Some folks are upset Stannis isn't as stern in the show. Eh personally I like this Stannis. I could see Stannis having a somewhat warm, friendly conversation with Davos; it's not like they were drinking and banging whores.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on April 23, 2012, 03:37:21 AM
§hadowbaby

Yeah, not having read the books, that was a big WTF to me. I realize there are dragon pups and zombie people, but for some reason the shadow baby was a bit too hard for me to buy.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Vizzys on April 23, 2012, 04:04:23 AM
I laughed pretty hard
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 23, 2012, 05:25:58 AM
§hadowbaby

Yeah, not having read the books, that was a big WTF to me. I realize there are dragon pups and zombie people, but for some reason the shadow baby was a bit too hard for me to buy.
better get locked in you're going for a bumpy, pretty-fantastical ride
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 23, 2012, 05:33:08 AM
complaints

from reading a lot of your complaints, you seen to just not went them to change anything at all, ever.

the changes all make sense in the context of turning a 1000+page book into a 10 episode series. things were going to have to change, everyone knew that.

you might as well stop watching because as this show keeps going forward it's only going to get more and more different.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 23, 2012, 09:51:28 AM

All the Arya stuff was great. I love The Tickler, great performance. I also like the change with Tywin at Harenhel instead of you-know-who.


spoilers from this season:

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I don't like this at all, in the books Arya only glimpsed Lord Tywin from afar and when the time came to claim her deaths she only choose the people that where directly affecting her, it will be hard for me to buy that she won't name his brother's most dangerous adversary while she interacts with him everyday.
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I also have the same problem as Beb with the added scenes, 99% of them are garbage and I would rather they would have spent those minutes they wasted with yet another Ros scene( I guess she gives great head) into making the parley scene...good.

And this Asha fucking SUCKS! I can't believe they turned one of my favorite characters into an ugly unfunny tomboy.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 01:46:14 PM

All the Arya stuff was great. I love The Tickler, great performance. I also like the change with Tywin at Harenhel instead of you-know-who.


spoilers from this season:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't like this at all, in the books Arya only glimpsed Lord Tywin from afar and when the time came to claim her deaths she only choose the people that where directly affecting her, it will be hard for me to buy that she won't name his brother's most dangerous adversary while she interacts with him everyday.
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I also have the same problem as Beb with the added scenes, 99% of them are garbage and I would rather they would have spent those minutes they wasted with yet another Ros scene( I guess she gives great head) into making the parley scene...good.

And this Asha fucking SUCKS! I can't believe they turned one of my favorite characters into an ugly unfunny tomboy.

99% of the new scenes are garbage? Come on. A lot work in terms of condensing the story. The only new scene I had a major problem with this ep was Robb and "Talisa" which I won't go into too much. I found it rather odd that Robb would help a Lannister soldier in front of his army; that was out of character to me, and something done just to give him interaction with the nurse.

I liked Littlefinger's scenes with Renly and especially Margery. I also liked his scene with Cat. Outside of the horrible accent changes, those were great scenes.

I liked the Davos scene with Stannis. There seemed to be some slight remorse in Stannis' face over the war that's about to happen. And while he isn't as stern as in the books, I have no problem with making his emotions more complex.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 23, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
Arya's point of view feels different on the show than how the other characters are presented. Like its laser focused and impactful
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 02:15:32 PM
Part of it is how compelling the material is, how true it has been to the books (overall), and how good Maise Williams is; she's the most impressive child actor I've seen in a long time. I've always said if done right, her arc in ACOK could be the best thing on television. It started a tad shaky but has rebounded significantly.

The Greyjoy stuff is also very focused and impressive, as is Tyrion's stuff. Whereas so far the Robb stuff seems pretty inconsistent and scattered.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 23, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
The Davos scene was fine because they needed to tell his story about his fingers and smuggling/hero life somewhere.

The more I think about it, (BOOK SPOILERS)
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-The end of the ep doesn't make much sense.  They're birthing the shadow baby under the walls of Storms End in the ep, which made sense in the book because it was going up through the walls to kill the castle guard of Storms End.

-Also showing the shadow baby BEFORE the Renly scene is stupid.  In the book, the Renly scene was probably the biggest OH SHIT moment in the series because it's totally unexpected and out of nowhere and no one (even the reader) knows what is going on when it happens.  I guess they feel the audience is too stupid and needs to be shown the shadow before hand. 

-And if they cut out Storms End completely, that just kind of sucks because it was good Stannis development.

-Also the show didn't do a good job at setting up Stannis on land.  In the book there's a lot of build up of Stannis on Dragonstone and everyone else in the realm going "where's he heading with his army??" and then he sets sail and you don't know where and you're expecting him to show up at Kings Landing and then BAM, STANNIS APPEARS at Storms End face to face with Renly's army and suddenly things go from slow jolly pace to ratching it up to 10.  Most people I've talked to who haven't read the book and are watching the show don't even understand that Stannis is an important character.  He just seems like another general guy because the show has done a bad job as building up his importance in the series.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 02:59:29 PM
ACOK spoilers
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-I thought Renly's death was one of the more anticlimatic parts of the novel. I felt cheated given how interesting things had gotten once Stannis reached Storm's End...then it just ended with a quick death that made little sense at the time.

We know the same magic used to kill Renly and the Storm's End steward, I'm fine with how it was done. It's another example of condensing the story, saving time, and making sense. In the grand scheme of things, the Storm's End steward/guard was not important.

-I do agree that Stannis' arrival made little sense. One minute Renly is talking to LF, next minute Stannis is suddenly on land and talking to him. There was no "Stannis is here!" moment, in fact there is no note on his arrival at all.

The show has done a good job building up Stannis imo. He's mentioned multiple times throughout season 1, and has had some good scenes this season.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 23, 2012, 03:00:07 PM
you guys should start labelling what is and isn't book spoilers

:piss pd
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 03:02:59 PM
it's pretty obvious that if something is spoiler tagged, it's book spoilers. I can understand if someone posted untagged spoilers for ASOS or a later book, but this thread is solely about ACOK...
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 23, 2012, 03:05:23 PM
I too, invoke monkey piss on PD's head.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
I did break my own rule from the OP and I'm sorry but...............spoiler tags are kind of obvious  :-\
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brob on April 23, 2012, 03:32:05 PM
I liked the ham joke.

Also, how are you gonna show a birth and not have a vagina on screen? pussy-foot harder hbo
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 23, 2012, 04:16:17 PM
I did break my own rule from the OP and I'm sorry but...............spoiler tags are kind of obvious  :-\
Some people are spoiler tagging stuff that happened in the new episodes for people who haven't watched yet and some are only doing book stuff. Just say which one like everyone else has been doing.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
I did break my own rule from the OP and I'm sorry but...............spoiler tags are kind of obvious  :-\
Some people are spoiler tagging stuff that happened in the new episodes for people who haven't watched yet and some are only doing book stuff. Just say which one like everyone else has been doing.

You're right and I apologize. Won't happen again, my black brother
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 23, 2012, 04:37:11 PM
Yeah, sorry about that.  Will mark book spoilers.  I kind of assumed that you didn't need to spoil tag stuff from the ep after its aired. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 23, 2012, 04:39:23 PM
Joffrey needs to die in a bad bad way.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM5aNNXzoAU
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 23, 2012, 05:45:33 PM
The still there makes Dany look like she's wearing a wig  :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on April 23, 2012, 05:48:00 PM
I did break my own rule from the OP and I'm sorry but...............spoiler tags are kind of obvious  :-\
Some people are spoiler tagging stuff that happened in the new episodes for people who haven't watched yet and some are only doing book stuff. Just say which one like everyone else has been doing.

You're right and I apologize. Won't happen again, my black brother
It's okay, doesn't bother me much. I've been spoiled by the internet many times already.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 23, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
JAQEN H'GHAR

the best part of the book/season
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 23, 2012, 07:47:51 PM
I've imagined Jaqen doing this forever. It's completely fabricated in my mind but I want to see it happen lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58at7sN4dEU
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 23, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
Russians are so fucking awesome. That gesture being one of the many awesome things they have.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 23, 2012, 11:58:32 PM
I thought the episode was fine, but that shadow baby scene has to be fucking hilarious for anyone who hasn't read the books (I still laughed).
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on April 24, 2012, 01:26:41 AM
are you telling me there is more magical queefing to come?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 24, 2012, 01:27:59 AM
are you telling me there is more magical queefing to come?

i just meant people who read the books knew that was coming
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2012, 01:31:05 AM
The folks I've talked to (non-readers) were freaked out by the scene, and liked it. I did see some "shark jump" comments on twitter though, but they were drowned out by the general "WTF was that!" reactions.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 24, 2012, 01:42:17 AM
that scene was awesome, I love the track they use when Mel is on screen is the only memorable piece of music besides the intro that I have heard on the show.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2012, 01:55:46 AM
that scene was awesome, I love the track they use when Mel is on screen is the only memorable piece of music besides the intro that I have heard on the show.
GTFO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e24feBZLrao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ApWpnXSRNE

And from S2 I like the Greyjoy theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cewONli_A-E
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 24, 2012, 05:12:57 AM
I love all the whinging from people going all WAH WAH WAH THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS THE BOOK.  I can tell you I am absolutely shocked to see Bebpo leading that brigade.

Oh wait, no I'm not.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 24, 2012, 07:45:28 AM
WTF was that.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 24, 2012, 07:46:26 AM
Carice Van Houten having one of the hottest abortions of all times
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 24, 2012, 07:49:19 AM
Who cares if it's not like the book. It's 1000x better.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 24, 2012, 09:26:29 AM
Oh please himu ::)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2012, 01:10:39 PM
EW.com: HBO's 'Veep' opens solid; 'Girls,' 'Thrones' steady (http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/04/24/hbos-veep-opens-solid-girls-thrones-steady/)
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While the fourth episode of this year’s Game of Thrones was yet again mostly steady, delivering 3.7 million for its first airing and 4.6 million overall (up just a tick overall from last week, in fact). Season to date, Thrones is averaging a whopping 10.4 million views on all HBO platforms.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brob on April 24, 2012, 02:51:12 PM
sexposition successful!   :elephant
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 24, 2012, 06:34:07 PM
There is no possible world where the show is better than the books. fuck off himuro
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 24, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
There is no possible world where the show is better than the books. fuck off himuro

U MAD

The show is definitely better than the books.  All you larpers and other "hard core" fans can stfu and suck on the success.  Also, when the books don't get finished because Martin dies and they decide to finish the show, it will become canon!  Double suck it!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2012, 07:19:26 PM
There is no possible world where the show is better than the books. fuck off himuro

U MAD

The show is definitely better than the books.  All you larpers and other "hard core" fans can stfu and suck on the success.  Also, when the books don't get finished because Martin dies and they decide to finish the show, it will become canon!  Double suck it!

Like many adaptations of large works, there is far too much information being sped through (sometimes poorly) for it to be called better than the actual book; same applies to LOTR.  There are many things the show does right, some of which I like better than in the bloated novels, but overall the show is not nearly as good. I didn't expect it to be either - it's unfilmable.

I can't think of any adaptations I felt were better than the novel (off the top of my head)

I know hating on Martin is kind of your thing so I won't really be trolled here. I know you liked the first three books a lot, but prefer the utter mess that is Malazan.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on April 24, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
I haven't read the books - yet.  Don't want to spoil anything.  I'll go back to them after the series is over.

One thing however, I was reading a review of episode 3 and they mention how the baptism of Theon Greyjoy differs from the book.  In the book he's literally drowned and then brought back to life.  IMO that should've been in there instead of him getting showered with water from a jug. 

But anyway, yeah.  Smoke babies.  Another series I've been sucked into featuring smoke monsters.  Hopefully this will have a better ending.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 24, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
yeah i hope not considering martin hates lost
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2012, 09:24:38 PM
Martin loved Lost but hated the ending

although it would be awesome if the end is that the entire story was Hodor's dream
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2012, 10:29:22 PM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2wvhbGIdk1qis07wo1_1280.jpg)
HNNNNNGGGGGG
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 24, 2012, 10:33:25 PM
WHY ISNT ONE OF HER BOOBS HANGING OUT WTF
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 24, 2012, 10:36:08 PM
HBO GIVE ME THIS

(http://tinyurl.com/6qftt4t)
:uguu
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on April 24, 2012, 10:44:07 PM
Probably the first time in my life I've ever said this but.....

I don't think this show need anymore tits..... especially of the pointy variety like that toothy whore on the ship.

I'm good.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 25, 2012, 01:23:13 AM
Since they probably won't show the house of the undying scene I hope they at least let us see Emilia's magnificent ass one more time to compensate.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 25, 2012, 01:26:31 AM
Since they probably won't show the house of the undying scene I hope they at least let us see Emilia's magnificent ass one more time to compensate.

That scene was shot and will happen in episode..

spoiler
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 25, 2012, 01:31:29 AM
:o
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 25, 2012, 01:35:45 AM
I'm pretty sure the rest of this season is gonna be pretty awesome, we've gotten to the point where there's not much more in the way of table-setting exposition.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 25, 2012, 02:29:04 AM
Since they probably won't show the house of the undying scene I hope they at least let us see Emilia's magnificent ass one more time to compensate.

That scene was shot and will happen in episode..

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Knowing HBO they'll take its foreshadowing nature and just amp it up to 1 billion since HBO's viewing populace is dumb, apparently.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 25, 2012, 02:42:58 AM
I'd imagine they'll cut some things out, as the visual medium is less subtle than reading. It'll be very interesting getting new viewer's thoughts on that scene. I can't see it making much sense to people (unless the writers make it super blatant which I doubt), given how condensed the story has been
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 25, 2012, 04:44:40 PM
They better do the House of the Undying justice. Some of the visual symbolism was great to imagine. Maybe the Blackwater battle effected the budget for that too!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 25, 2012, 06:33:43 PM
It's gonna look like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz2ET5K6zY0

just replace Saddam with

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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Tasty on April 28, 2012, 10:19:18 PM
I finally caught up on this show this week. Now I see what I was missing. :)

Literally. :drool
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 29, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 29, 2012, 10:29:48 PM
Loved the episode, and I don't give two shits that

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the Tickler was killed instead of Poliver or whoever was first.  The fact that GS is bitching about it at GAF makes me laugh more
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Loved the Qarth scenes and the Harrenhal stuff.  Arya is soooooo the best character right now.  Also, Gendry without a shirt :drool
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Post by: Tasty on April 29, 2012, 10:32:17 PM
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Having a meteor randomly come out of the sky and kill Renley would have been more satisfying. Poor writing.
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The rest was great. I'm just worried now that magic is here in full force. What's stopping the red haired wench from popping out a few more shadowy assassins and claiming the throne herself in less than an ep? Nothing at this point.
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Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on April 29, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
The problem with
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was that it took place within the first few minutes of the episode. IMO that should've been the cliffhanger from last week.

Pretty amazing episode overall though
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Post by: Tasty on April 29, 2012, 10:48:38 PM
Yeah, probably. It just kind of hung over the whole episode. Would have been a decent cliffhanger instead of a very annoying opening.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 29, 2012, 11:14:05 PM
wait, so
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the magic stuff is a bit surprising.  S1 had the looming threat of ice zombies from the first episode, and the end of the season established more super natural elements.  Now it's everywhere.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 29, 2012, 11:17:49 PM
wait, so
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the magic stuff is a bit surprising.  S1 had the looming threat of ice zombies from the first episode, and the end of the season established more super natural elements.  Now it's everywhere.

In regards to your question: yes, that does happen in the book.
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Post by: cool breeze on April 29, 2012, 11:22:49 PM
Is it quite so random?

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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 29, 2012, 11:43:03 PM
ACOK book spoilers on your question:
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In the book it's even more random, and one of my least favorite scenes. Basically Renly is talking to Catelyn when his throat is slit by what seems to be a shadow. The Melisandre birthing scene actually happens after Renly's death, and the shadow baby is used to kill someone else (who is not in the books so I won't go into detail). So at the time of Renly's death the reader isn't provided with any overt information on who killed him, although one could easily guess it must have been Melisandre since she's the only person capable of doing it.

At the time it just felt like too quick of an event. In the books Renly is on the verge of attacking (and most likely crushing) Stannis' small force outside of a castle.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 29, 2012, 11:47:33 PM
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Having a meteor randomly come out of the sky and kill Renley would have been more satisfying. Poor writing.
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The rest was great. I'm just worried now that magic is here in full force. What's stopping the red haired wench from popping out a few more shadowy assassins and claiming the throne herself in less than an ep? Nothing at this point.
There are rules that I can't go into regarding Melisandre's magic, it's not like this is something that she can just easily do.

Also, I really hated the divergence from the books they made with Arya tonight. Like, wow, that was fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Post by: Tasty on April 29, 2012, 11:56:14 PM
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Having a meteor randomly come out of the sky and kill Renley would have been more satisfying. Poor writing.
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The rest was great. I'm just worried now that magic is here in full force. What's stopping the red haired wench from popping out a few more shadowy assassins and claiming the throne herself in less than an ep? Nothing at this point.
There are rules that I can't go into regarding Melisandre's magic, it's not like this is something that she can just easily do.

Also, I really hated the divergence from the books they made with Arya tonight. Like, wow, that was fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

Well there would have to be rules, otherwise they should just get the old and new gods involved for good measure.

What's different?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 29, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
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Having a meteor randomly come out of the sky and kill Renley would have been more satisfying. Poor writing.
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The rest was great. I'm just worried now that magic is here in full force. What's stopping the red haired wench from popping out a few more shadowy assassins and claiming the throne herself in less than an ep? Nothing at this point.
There are rules that I can't go into regarding Melisandre's magic, it's not like this is something that she can just easily do.

Also, I really hated the divergence from the books they made with Arya tonight. Like, wow, that was fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

Well there would have to be rules, otherwise they should just get the old and new gods involved for good measure.

What's different?
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Arya is the one who kills The Tickler, and it's a super cathartic moment for her character because she's been hearing him torturing people for days and days and days. This picture sums it up (http://i.imgur.com/62TsA.jpg)
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Tasty on April 30, 2012, 12:00:26 AM
Yeah that does seem like a dumb choice. Then again maybe they just don't want to show a kid going psycho. I mean she killed that kid in King's Landing but it was so awkwardly short and rushed it was obvious they were uncomfortable with it...


Is the genie assassin in the books?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 12:06:21 AM
Yes, and it's about as sudden as it is in the books. There's no definable shape to it, though, just a shadow.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Tasty on April 30, 2012, 12:40:48 AM
No I meant Arya's whole three wishes killer guy.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 12:48:44 AM
Oh, yeah, and it's one of the best arcs in the series. Their interactions are great, and if they keep a scene later on, it will come to define the season.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 03:03:12 AM
I thought that was a great episode. Honestly the only problem I had was with how

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the Renly scene was shot. It just looked so...pedestrian. Reminded me waaay too much of Lost with the way the shadow swept into the room. I had hoped it would just travel on the walls, which would have looked creepier imo; like a Dracula homage.
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Qarth looked beautiful, and while there still was a Sci Fi channel cheese level, overall I liked the scenes there. Not a big fan of Quaith's mask though; she looks like a gimp or some shit. Pyrat Pree looked awesome though.

In terms of the Arya change that has book fans pissed: eh. I'd imagine "that scene" will be replaced with something else, so I will reserve judgement until we get to that point.

I loved all the anterior shots in this episode, especially in King's Landing (filmed in Croatia). Dubrovnik is one of the most beautiful cities in the world and I'm glad we got to see more of it tonight. The Qarth scenes were shot there too, and they managed to hide it perfectly; it gave me a Babylonian vibe.

Also it was awesome to see Roy Dotrice playing the pyromancer! Awesome cameo, and I loved his interaction with Tyrion and Bronn. Bronn continues to get some of the funniest lines in the series
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2012, 03:06:32 AM
Tonight's episode was fantastic. It had so much content jam-packed into one short hour. I was really impressed with the not only the editing but the flow of the storytelling in this episode. Easily the best this season so far.

I really disagree with the change from the books that has been mentioned so far, but it's a nitpick and like I said, the tv show is better than the books so who gives a shit
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 03:10:50 AM
For the record, the change could indeed ruin what is one of the very best Arya moments in the entire series - and one of the best moments in the entire series period. But considering this is an adaptation, I would imagine the writers will replace that scene with something else. And until I see that, I without nerd rage.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2012, 03:13:08 AM
Thinking back, it's a lot more natural for this to happen than have a little girl
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. i think it helps with the storytelling. arya will get there.

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What's more likely to happen? a little girl scared to death who prays her enemies names before she sleeps, who has lost everything is on her own, is granted three "death wishes"...orrrrrrrrr, she goes berserk and kills him herself?
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Another case of the tv series one upping the source material.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 03:13:58 AM
I'm gonna nerd rage because the scene is amazing, and if they don't use something of a similar weight and catharsis, it's going to cripple Arya's arc.

It's
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And no, this is not at all a case of the show one upping the book material at all and that's complete horseshit and you know it.
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Post by: Himu on April 30, 2012, 03:17:22 AM
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They're clearly building up to psychopath Arya. Having her flip her shit makes no sense in this context and she is already becoming bitter if you paid attention to the scene between her and tywin
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Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 03:19:37 AM
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They're clearly building up to psychopath Arya. Having her flip her shit makes no sense in this context and she is already becoming bitter if you paid attention to the scene between her and tywin
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I'd believe that if they convinced us more that Arya's slowly rotting away mentally. There's absolutely no way that the way they're handling Arya will lead to what she becomes later. It takes that scene, which is entirely pivotal to her character, to make her snap. Unless they throw in something of equal gravitas, they've wasted a potentially Emmy-winning scene for Maisie next season.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 03:21:43 AM
Larry taking a dump on Sansa :bow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqgsp6UoMl0

Himu:

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The Tickler was not a physically imposing or dangerous person - Arya killing him was not unrealistic at all. It would have been an amazing scene, I don't see how anyone could deny that. In fact, it would be one of the more shocking scenes on television. It's far more believable than Arya killing Lannister guards during the Nights Watch caravan attack in ACOK. Also by the time she kills him, she had been preparing mentally and physically for months.

A problem I did have with the scene was that it occured right after Tywin basically telling everyone he's going to attempt to kill Robb. Why wouldn't Arya name Tywin first? In the book she names Joffery first iirc, and Jaquen tells her it would be impossible. From a writing perspective, it made little sense.
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Post by: Himu on April 30, 2012, 03:27:09 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 03:42:22 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 03:46:04 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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I don't think she knows who Tywin is, so without knowing his name, that's not gonna happen. It still doesn't salvage this dumb decision but at least we can rule that out.
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Post by: Himu on April 30, 2012, 03:50:10 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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Tywin also saved her from being executed. Lots of dudes want to kill her brother. She only wants to kill people who have wronged her, her family, or people who without a modicum of humanity. It seemed to me, in this version of the story, Arya didn't really believe they'd end up dead and just said the first name that popped up.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 03:50:28 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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I don't think she knows who Tywin is, so without knowing his name, that's not gonna happen. It still doesn't salvage this dumb decision but at least we can rule that out.
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She certainly knows who he is. He was called Lord Tywin in her presence, she knows he is a Lannister, she's a noble and would definitely be familiar with the main members of the Lannister family.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 03:51:45 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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I don't think she knows who Tywin is, so without knowing his name, that's not gonna happen. It still doesn't salvage this dumb decision but at least we can rule that out.
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She certainly knows who he is. He was called Lord Tywin in her presence, she knows he is a Lannister, she's a noble and would definitely be familiar with the main members of the Lannister family.
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More than likely they'll have him conveniently leave Harrenhal and it'll be too late, so we can still get the coin sequence and they can salvage some of the butchering to her plot arc they've been doing.
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Post by: Himu on April 30, 2012, 03:52:11 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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I don't think she knows who Tywin is, so without knowing his name, that's not gonna happen. It still doesn't salvage this dumb decision but at least we can rule that out.
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She certainly knows who he is. He was called Lord Tywin in her presence, she knows he is a Lannister, she's a noble and would definitely be familiar with the main members of the Lannister family.
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So kill the guy that took her in, gave her shelter, saved her from being executed. Then what? THAT makes no sense from a narrative perspective or Arya's self survival methodology
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 30, 2012, 03:53:02 AM
Hated the first 10 mins, didn't like the changes to the Theon stuff (feels so rushed here), and lack of the Reeds, but otherwise the episode was good.  Arya & Tyrion are the reasons to watch the show as always.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 03:58:18 AM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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I don't think she knows who Tywin is, so without knowing his name, that's not gonna happen. It still doesn't salvage this dumb decision but at least we can rule that out.
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She certainly knows who he is. He was called Lord Tywin in her presence, she knows he is a Lannister, she's a noble and would definitely be familiar with the main members of the Lannister family.
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So kill the guy that took her in, gave her shelter, saved her from being executed. Then what? THAT makes no sense from a narrative perspective or Arya's self survival methodology
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True. Yet I would argue it also makes no sense to name The Tickler, who did her no harm. And I question why the writers did not go with Polliver, who clearly harmed Arya.  They went went out their name to give him a name, and multiple scenes in two episodes. It doesn't make sense. But like I said, I won't flip out until I see how it's handled next season. So I'll reserve my general observation that I just...don't like most of the major changes Weiss and Benioff make. The small condensing stuff almost always works, but whenever they stray too far off the reservation it shows. Mainly in terms of Ros, and if they fuck this up next season I'll be sitting her wondering "why would you do that?" I've heard they talk about the butterfly effect, they certainly know the potential consequences of changes. Hell, they know how Martin plans to end the series (for the most part).
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 03:59:19 AM
I'm sorry, but who the fuck cares about the Reeds :violin

Osha is more than capable of doing everything they do, outside of giving Bran a love interest
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 04:06:28 AM
It depends on if Howland Reed becomes a red herring or gains importance in the books after ADWD, but they can always introduce them next season.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 04:28:11 AM
The absence of his children wouldn't bar him from an appearance (if he ever makes one...). And as you said, they could be introduced later. I know Martin has said a lot of characters were moved to S3. The Tullys will certainly be introduced then, perhaps the Reeds as well. But right now it seems like Osha is the perfect candidate to condense a lot of their stuff
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 30, 2012, 04:28:49 AM
I like the Reeds!  They give Bran a crew to hang with and have fun scenes together.

Then again I'm still in ASoS, so I'm going to shut up about them before I get too spoiled.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on April 30, 2012, 05:30:23 AM

Osha is more than capable of doing everything they do, outside of giving Bran a love interest

well... the kid is growing up pretty fast.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on April 30, 2012, 12:05:30 PM
Book spoiler kinda
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House of Undying next week then? Chances of the symbolism being dumbed down to approximations of the actual events 95%
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 12:08:21 PM
That scene occurs in two weeks (ep 7). And I expect it'll be cheesy as hell. Hopefully it's at least shot well
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Post by: Momo on April 30, 2012, 12:20:35 PM
That scene occurs in two weeks (ep 7). And I expect it'll be cheesy as hell. Hopefully it's at least shot well
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Even though I know what it is supposed to be I swear to god if they give away what the Red Wedding is supposed to be easily, I'm going to puke
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 30, 2012, 12:30:07 PM
THANK GOD pd's spoiler only spoiled the first scene of the episode :bow pd
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Post by: Momo on April 30, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
Which spoiler? The ones we are talking about hidden under spoiler tags? =P
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 30, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
the one last week where the guy dies
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Post by: Momo on April 30, 2012, 01:56:46 PM
The Barathian? Well yeah. the whole lady stark and big lesbo guard running away was played out so poorly. Once they killed the two people who ran in they could have easily blamed them.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 30, 2012, 04:30:30 PM
the magic queef is worse than soul magnets in Fringe.

That is all.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
the magic queef is worse than soul magnets in Fringe.

That is all.


okay
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Post by: Tasty on April 30, 2012, 04:57:55 PM
the magic queef is worse than soul magnets in Fringe.

That is all.

Deh night is dark and full of terrors. :uguu

Gosh I hate her too, almost as much as Joffrey. She's #2 on my hit list for this show, hope she gets it.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLSkrJnjkLA

God I love Jaqen H'ghar.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 30, 2012, 05:39:28 PM
Yeah dude is cool it seems.

Episode 5 spoiler
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Shame the gay king died, he was kind of a cool dude too.
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Post by: chronovore on April 30, 2012, 07:30:42 PM
The Barathian? Well yeah. the whole lady stark and big lesbo guard running away was played out so poorly. Once they killed the two people who ran in they could have easily blamed them.

Yeah, that whole bit felt like it was a play on a stage -- christ add some tension and throw some extras into the background. It felt very oddly paced and theatrical.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on April 30, 2012, 08:26:24 PM
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Tywin has not wronged her. Why would she name Tywin?
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The Tickler didn't wrong her either. Tywin threatened to kill her brother, you don't think she would leave that meeting worried about his well being, and intent to do anything to help him if she could? In the book she only names people who have directly harmed her.

Why not name Polliver, who killed Lommy and stole her sword? From a writing perspective it just made no sense to me.
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I don't think she knows who Tywin is, so without knowing his name, that's not gonna happen. It still doesn't salvage this dumb decision but at least we can rule that out.
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You think a highborn lady doesn't know who the most powerful man in the kingdoms is?

I think that they are completely fucking up the amazing Arya storyline and there is absolutely no defense for the shit they are pulling with her.

And I can't even begin to express how disappointed I'm at the killing shadow scene and it's aftermath so so fucking bad, the people saying that this show is better than the books should be sent to the Dreadfort for some Bolton hospitality.

And I can't wait to see what they do in winterfell since they eliminated 90% of the characters from that storyline, smh.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 30, 2012, 08:35:31 PM
Arya's staring match with Tywin cements Maisie as a acting force on this show. She's up there with Dinklage, in fact I think she's ahead of the best actors currently. It may be in part to her scenario (which is the most interesting to me) and the writing that seems to be handled with care for her scenario.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 08:43:49 PM
She definitely held her own in that scene, which was very powerful to me. She has a level of subtlety to her acting that you almost never seen from child actors or young adult actors. I like Sophie Turner (Sansa) and Emilia Clarke (Dany) but at times it's like they're channeling Emma Watson with the whole "act dramatic and loud" thing. Williams never goes over board.

A lot of my potential anger over the change made last night is that we won't get to see Williams handle "that" scene.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on April 30, 2012, 11:30:29 PM
Which, like I was saying, would get her an Emmy on the spot.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Tasty on April 30, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
I sort of dislike the actress for Sansa but I can't put my finger on it... maybe I just dislike the character.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2012, 11:40:15 PM
For a child actor? No. The awards are basically run on seniority and show hype. The female actresses in The Good Wife and Mad Men were certainly have a leg up on her regardless

But you're right, it could have been an amazing scene and Williams would knock it out the park. The first time I saw Kill Bill I remember seeing this shot and saying "that's how it could look"..


spoiler for ASOS:
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(http://tinyurl.com/79pnxv7)
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Not as stylized, but something like that
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 30, 2012, 11:41:42 PM
You're not really supposed to like Sansa's character.

Episode was good.  Was it me or were there no tits?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 01, 2012, 03:25:40 AM
I didnt see a single tit.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 01, 2012, 05:31:33 AM
I guess Emilia Clarke is gettin' uppity due to fame and can't show us one measly cherub-esque titty
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 01, 2012, 02:20:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uJ2rI.png)
:fbm
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 01, 2012, 03:08:21 PM
PD, shut the fuck up about book spoilers in this thread you cunt. Some haven't read the books so you need to make your own book spoiler thread or shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on May 01, 2012, 04:19:24 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 01, 2012, 04:23:31 PM
Someone's gettin saaaaaaaalty!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 01, 2012, 04:24:55 PM
I'm not being spoiled because I read the books years ago. But I hate how every other post it's PD talking about the books or posting some book spoiler.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 01, 2012, 04:32:45 PM
If it's in spoiler tags who gives a shit?

...please note that I don't know if he's been spoiler tagging relevant stuff, because it's pd and at this point in his internet life I just assume anything he posts is a shitty troll and skim over it.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 01, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
But on the reals, I think comparing the show to the books is a topic of valid discussion for this thread, so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCEXgFxfU
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 01, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
you just gave justin timberlake another hit

how do you feel about that you cunt
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 01, 2012, 04:35:43 PM
DEFINITELY salty.  The park is that way, sir.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on May 01, 2012, 04:35:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/h9z7M.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 01, 2012, 04:44:04 PM
DEFINITELY salty.  The park is that way, sir.

Or you gave Justin Timberlake another hit and you feel bad about that because i feel bad since i gave justin timberlake a hit
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on May 01, 2012, 04:47:26 PM
Why would you play the video Stringer? :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 01, 2012, 04:48:26 PM
because it's justin timberlake and i'm a taco
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on May 01, 2012, 05:01:25 PM
How can you hate on Timberlake? He brought sexy back!

For himuro to click on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUuKvHHt8Sk
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 01, 2012, 08:04:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uJ2rI.png)
:fbm
I'm sure Arya/Gendry fanfic has been around for the past 14 years.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 01, 2012, 08:09:37 PM
Himu :lol

I rarely discuss the books in here, but last episode featured a major deviation that EVERYONE was discussing everywhere.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 05, 2012, 02:36:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru-qIiuhQRw
 :lol

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 06, 2012, 12:56:08 AM
fucking hell
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 06, 2012, 06:23:34 AM
So... Arya grows up to be a shitty actress?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 06, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
new ep tonight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfOyKdtG6D8
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 06, 2012, 09:55:30 PM
This show= not for book fans, smh.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Tasty on May 06, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
Much better ep than last time, although I keep thinking that the Danny/Qarth stuff should be the B plot, not the stuff they end with.

Awesome seeing the Winterfell team leaving though. Got hyped by that. Glad Osha is still loyal to Bran, they have a great dynamic.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 06, 2012, 10:01:25 PM
Another great ep!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 06, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
Ygritte :bow2
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 06, 2012, 10:04:36 PM
I really disliked that episode. Fuck the changes.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2012, 10:05:19 PM
WAH WAH WAH

Series >>>> books
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 06, 2012, 10:05:42 PM
WAH WAH WAH

Series >>>> books
Entirely false.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2012, 10:06:04 PM
Uh huh yeah no
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 06, 2012, 10:07:04 PM
Uh huh yeah no
It's okay to be entirely, completely, and utterly wrong.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 06, 2012, 10:07:56 PM
I think all the stuff with Dany has been kinda lame. Not because it's different from the books but because it's just silly. The stuff with her this season is better on paper than it is live action.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 06, 2012, 10:10:22 PM
Ygritte is perfect btw!

mild spoiler
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but i was waiting for her to say it. There was a perfect moment when they were spooning! Fuckin' say it already!
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 06, 2012, 10:13:55 PM
I think all the stuff with Dany has been kinda lame. Not because it's different from the books but because it's just silly. The stuff with her this season is better on paper than it is live action.

It looks like something from the Sci Fi channel, or Star Trek
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 06, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
Can't wait for Danny's quest to save her dragons from the tower of the evil warlocks! ::)

Ygrette is perfect her and the Hound where the only good thing about this episode.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2012, 10:19:49 PM
Lies, naked Tonks was awesome
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 06, 2012, 10:21:25 PM
Can't wait for Danny's quest to save her dragons from the tower of the evil warlocks! ::)

Ygrette is perfect her and the Hound where the only good thing about this episode.
Agreed, they have adapted Jon's arc very well this season.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 06, 2012, 10:23:57 PM

Agreed, they have adapted Jon's arc very well this season.

shocking that the best arcs from the book (arya and jon) end up being the best arcs from the show!!!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 06, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
anyone else tired of Danny yelling how she'll take what is hers with fire and blood at someone and Xaro repeating he is the wealthiest man on Quarth every fucking episode?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2012, 10:27:59 PM
Pretty much everything Tyrion related has been awesome as well
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 06, 2012, 10:28:51 PM
tyrion owned tonight
 
and yes, diunx
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 06, 2012, 10:30:05 PM
I liked the guy who kept telling shutting dragon girl down.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 06, 2012, 10:30:39 PM
anyone else tired of Danny yelling how she'll take what is hers with fire and blood at someone and Xaro repeating he is the wealthiest man on Quarth every fucking episode?
Yeah. They've made Xaro out to be a much bigger character when really he's completely boring compared to the rest of Qarth and he was kinda gay in the novels so, again, do not understand.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 06, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
He was much better in the novels, the spontaneous weeping, his ridiculously over the top flattering, dude was hilarious.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 06, 2012, 10:34:49 PM
knew I'd come here and see book purists bitching.  cry more.

This was a fucking great episode.  Arya and Tywin's scenes have been absolutely wonderful.  And nude Osha, nom nom
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2012, 10:36:35 PM
BrandNew knows the score
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Tasty on May 06, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
Did Tyrion dye his hair or something? :lol

And for some reason I'm getting attached to Tywin. I know I shouldn't but whatevs, he's a cool dude.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 06, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
knew I'd come here and see book purists bitching.  cry more.

This was a fucking great episode.  Arya and Tywin's scenes have been absolutely wonderful.  And nude Osha, nom nom

hot hot hot
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 06, 2012, 10:43:19 PM
also, ygritte was perfect
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 06, 2012, 11:19:24 PM
knew I'd come here and see book purists bitching.  cry more.

This was a fucking great episode.  Arya and Tywin's scenes have been absolutely wonderful.  And nude Osha, nom nom

show is mediocre and no where near as good as the books, :patel
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 06, 2012, 11:20:12 PM
can we make a book thread for the book feggits
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on May 06, 2012, 11:21:20 PM
I don't know, I was pretty happy to see Tonk's tits tonight.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Freyj on May 06, 2012, 11:26:53 PM
knew I'd come here and see book purists bitching.  cry more.

This was a fucking great episode.  Arya and Tywin's scenes have been absolutely wonderful.  And nude Osha, nom nom

show is mediocre and no where near as good as the books, :patel

Here's something everyone should agree on: Dany is a shit terrible character in the show and the books.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 06, 2012, 11:29:53 PM
Ygritte is perfect btw!

mild spoiler
spoiler (click to show/hide)
but i was waiting for her to say it. There was a perfect moment when they were spooning! Fuckin' say it already!
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Yeah...but at least Danny said the words of her house again!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 06, 2012, 11:30:23 PM
I don't know, I was pretty happy to see Tonk's tits tonight.

*fist bump*

Freyj- difference is, in the books it took until the fifth one for her to get shitty
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 06, 2012, 11:38:40 PM
knew I'd come here and see book purists bitching.  cry more.

This was a fucking great episode.  Arya and Tywin's scenes have been absolutely wonderful.  And nude Osha, nom nom

show is mediocre and no where near as good as the books, :patel

 :american
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2012, 02:01:07 AM
No idea where they are going with the tv version since it certainly isn't where the books went!  Hopefully the writers know themselves, lol.

Whoever said they're handling Jon/Arya's arcs the most faithful...wat.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 07, 2012, 02:11:36 AM
Just finished the episode. Wut...

Overall I thought it was a damn good episode, but some of those changes made no fucking sense. I'll write up a detailed review later though. I'm fine with the Theon stuff, but that Arya stuff....what the fuck?

NAKED TONKS  :o
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 07, 2012, 02:18:36 AM
A lot of the changes they're making have me thinking they're aiming for condensing a bunch of stuff for the coming seasons, which makes no sense if they're going to keep following the books at all as Martin will REALLY never finish 6 by the time they're ready to do it if that's the case.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2012, 02:20:50 AM
How can anyone whose read the books be fine with Theon's arc.  It's so butchered up, it's a surprise it's even comprehensible.  I doubt there's one person watching the TV show who feels sorry for Theon because they've failed to develop him at all in the show.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 07, 2012, 02:22:16 AM
Who the fuck felt sorry for Theon before the 4th and 5th books?  Bebpo, sometimes I swear you have to be the dumbest lawyer in all of creation.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2012, 02:24:26 AM
A lot of the changes they're making have me thinking they're aiming for condensing a bunch of stuff for the coming seasons, which makes no sense if they're going to keep following the books at all as Martin will REALLY never finish 6 by the time they're ready to do it if that's the case.

Book 7 and the final season will come out at the same time, probably.

by the time they finish Season 4 (ASOS), book 6 might be out.  And then by the time they do Season 5 (AFFC), Season 6 (ADWD), Season 7 (Book 6 part 1?), Season 8 (Book 6 part 2?), book 7 could be out and then Season 9/10 could cover it and finish around the same time.  If he can do book 6 & 7 in about 4 years each, the above schedule should work and from what I've read the only reason Books 4/5 took so long was that they were the boring parts of the story so he was bored writing them and it took longer.  Book 6/7 should be faster plus the TV show being a huge hit will probably motivate him (HBO's money pushing) to move a little faster to finish up 6/7 to time it with the show.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2012, 02:28:44 AM
Who the fuck felt sorry for Theon before the 4th and 5th books?  Bebpo, sometimes I swear you have to be the dumbest lawyer in all of creation.

WTF  Book 2 is (BOOK SPOILERS)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
ALL ABOUT THEON BEING THE VICTIM. 

He wants to be Robb's buddy, he wants to be part of the Starks and do the right thing and he goes to his Dad with a plan and they turn it all against him and he realizes he is FUCKED and he tries to make the best of it, tries to take Winterfell but be a good fair king and make his father proud while not hurting the people in the north that he cares about more than he has to and he gets FUCKED by Bolton's Bastard and loses everything.  His story is incredibly depressing and Martin makes him into a total grey area character who is neither good, nor bad.  He's just a fool, an idealistic fool and a dreamer with aspirations too grand and unrealistic and it gets him destroyed.  The whole book 2 creates this feeling with his character that you KNOW he's going to get fucked and you feel bad for what's going on and how his life was turned upside down.


You don't get any of that in the TV version.  He's just a prick and a joke character whose going to get owned.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 07, 2012, 02:31:14 AM
WAH WAH WAH

Series >>>> books

Also I get the feeling that you're one of those people who loves reading the books but hates them and enjoys trolling the shit out of them.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 07, 2012, 02:32:11 AM
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I never gave a shit about Theon until he got imprisoned by Bolton's bastard and flayed and shit.  Ultimately, he is a selfish prick idiot and all of his unfortunate choices were still HIS CHOICES.

Then again, it's been probably close to 8 years or so since I've read the 2nd book, but I don't remember Theon being a main focus of it whatsoever.  He's always been a supporting character in my opinion, and barely more well developed and tolerable than Sansa.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 07, 2012, 02:33:12 AM
WAH WAH WAH

Series >>>> books

Also I get the feeling that you're one of those people who loves reading the books but hates them and enjoys trolling the shit out of them.

Not really, I just don't think of them as particularly awesome books, and feel like the series really peeked in book 3.  I'm just not shy about sharing my opinion about anything, generally speaking.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 07, 2012, 02:53:43 AM
I thought the episode was good, but there were more than a few questionable writing decisions imo - some of which are book related, some of which aren't. The abrupt Winterfell sacking was rather puzzling to me, first off. I had thought Theon would have a few men start sieging Torrhen Square while he walked into Winterfell easily. The episode throws you immediately into the situation with no set up, and it felt rather odd/rushed. Still, overall I thought it was a good scene. And the beheading, damn. I'm fine with the change, it worked well.

The beyond-the-Wall scenes were good, I just felt odd about the Ygritte changes. Sure the ambush was awesome, I like the actress, the Halfhand is great etc. But [ACOK]
spoiler (click to show/hide)
What's the point in having Jon run off with Ygritte? Also from a writing perspective, it makes no sense that the Halfhand would simply leave Jon alone with her and not even watch from afar, or note how long the whole thing took. And another thing...the whole "Jon sleeping with his head on a rock in below zero temperatures" thing was just weird, but that's kind of nitpicky. So I'm guessing Jon will be captured by Wildlings, they'll throw him in a cell with the Halfhand, and he'll demand Jon kill him in order to infiltrate them. I guess I'm cool with that.
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The scene that really bothered me was the Arya one with Hagar/Loche. It felt completely unnecessary and trivializes the nature of her relationship with Hagar. And how unrealistic is it that a commanding officer would have to chase a servant through camp and not a single soldier would stop her? Once again, weird writing decisions.

And of course Dany...eh? It certainly makes sense that someone would attempt to steal her dragons, so I can't really complain about that; in fact I always wondered why that didn't happen as I read ACOK. I'm super bummed about Irri dying, come the fuck on. And also, I'm tired of Xaro's story. We get it, it doesn't need to be repeated in every episode.

Solid ep. I loved the King's Landing stuff, even the Shae appearance. The Hound being a boss, Tyrion slapping the shit out of Joffery, that peasant zombie attack lmao, good shit
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on May 07, 2012, 05:09:21 AM
Is Theon the King of sucking lopsided tits?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on May 07, 2012, 07:00:52 AM
episode was teh suxxorz
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on May 07, 2012, 08:04:29 AM
I'm honestly not upset about the way the show is making itself different from the books.  They're both still going in the same direction, they're just taking different ways to get there. 

And really, if the show was EXACTLY like the novels, we'd still be sorting through boring shit from the first book.  It gives me a reason to watch and still be interested.

I'm still a fan just as much as you guys (I'm going to play the game, FFS), but you all would be bitching just as hard if the show and the books were identical.  And you probably would lose interest.

Just be happy, try to enjoy what they're doing with it, don't think too much about it, and if that doesn't work: THINK OF ALL THE MAGNIFICENT TIT-TAYS WE HAVE SEEN BECAUSE OF THIS SHOW.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 07, 2012, 11:12:38 AM
that episode ruled. Hound action :bow Natalie Tena's tits and vag :bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Freyj on May 07, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
I don't know, I was pretty happy to see Tonk's tits tonight.

*fist bump*

Freyj- difference is, in the books it took until the fifth one for her to get shitty

It got much worse in the fifth, but since my initial read years ago seeing her name after turning to a new chapter just makes me want to stop reading.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 07, 2012, 03:07:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Fyt93.png)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Tasty on May 07, 2012, 03:22:39 PM
:lol
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Post by: chronovore on May 09, 2012, 02:13:23 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 13, 2012, 09:59:37 PM
yo, theon is a cunt
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 13, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
goddamn, jaime :bow

hating on the worst character in the series
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 13, 2012, 10:06:01 PM
Ygritte makes me hard
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 13, 2012, 10:14:20 PM
Best episode of the season.

Everything was hitting the right notes perfectly.

Even the Dany scenes were great!

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2012, 01:28:40 AM
That might have been the best Game Of Thrones episode, first or second season. Wow
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 14, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
hurr durr warlocks have my dragons what the fuck ever

ROFL @
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killing the Thirteen
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I guess they dont want Dany to just wreck Essos' economy, they want to annihilate it completely
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 14, 2012, 02:14:22 AM
Best episode of the season, glad what his name Lannister was killed dude was annoying.

Danny plot is still fucking ridiculous and I'm pissed they changed one of my favorite Cersie line also pissed at the sympathetic Cersie bullshit, didn't these guys read AFFC?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2012, 02:41:15 AM
Cersei had some sympathetic development in ACOK, come on.

I've questioned Weiss and Benioff many times in the past, but I must say that was brilliantly written. Nearly every scene was great, even the small stuff like Hodor happily cracking nuts for Rickon.

I was too busy to pay attention to the twitter reactions, but I'll check them now. People must be either pissed or speechless. I'd imagine there will be lots of debate among new viewers over what happened at the end, can't wait to read up on it.

So many goosebumps. "You know nothing, Jon Snow." Oh man, perfect. An amazing exposition scene with Tywin and Arya. That amazing sequence with Pyratt Pree. Shae...not being annoying. And Jamie and Brienne, oh boy

Seems like most new viewers have guessed Bran didn't die. It could have been edited and directed better, very unimaginative in terms of how the various scenes were presented.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Spurgeon on May 14, 2012, 03:08:19 AM
This was my favorite episode of the season so far. Still not liking that entitled cunt Dany at all though.

Can't believe there are only two episodes left already.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 14, 2012, 03:14:56 AM
Three. This was episode 7.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Spurgeon on May 14, 2012, 03:20:32 AM
Oh, that's odd. I swore I thought they said "Only 2 left" on that bumper advertising after this episode. But yea, this was 7.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2012, 03:22:51 AM
Yea, there are three episodes left but the preview says two for some reason.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 14, 2012, 03:43:13 AM
"Two left until the season finale."
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on May 14, 2012, 04:19:06 AM
Where is my Warlocks of Qarth = Mesmers meme
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on May 14, 2012, 09:14:17 AM
who the fuck is Dany?

another doodoo episode, fuck watching this show week to week. I'm just going to wait until the season is over and watch the rest then.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 14, 2012, 12:02:11 PM
its ok its not like PD didn't spoil the whole subplot at the end in teh blue without spoiler tags or anything. oh wait.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 14, 2012, 12:17:52 PM
I really like what they've done with Quaithe (the masked woman). That mask she's wearing makes her eyes really eerie.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 14, 2012, 12:26:19 PM
I've read the books and have no idea who Quaithe is lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 14, 2012, 12:32:59 PM
as someone who just watches the show i have no idea who she is or why she knows who jorah is or why she helped him. the writing on this show can be messy
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
its ok its not like PD didn't spoil the whole subplot at the end in teh blue without spoiler tags or anything. oh wait.

That isnt a spoiler, I'm saying new viewers have guessed they didn't die, not whether it's true or not
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 14, 2012, 12:36:32 PM
I've read the books and have no idea who Quaithe is lol

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she is the red priest that told Danny to go west you have to go east and bla bla bla, she showed up again in dance to warm her about the pale male
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 14, 2012, 01:16:13 PM
I've read the books and have no idea who Quaithe is lol

She has the minor of minorest roles but they've given her a bit of weight on the show which is cool
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 14, 2012, 02:02:27 PM
Yep they really butcher it, I was just thinking, couldn't all this dialog happen next season or in the last episode? where is the wolfdream? the cache of dragonglass? Halfhand being awesome? smh
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 14, 2012, 02:09:17 PM
can someone explain why the mask lady would just give the information to jorah or is that a future spoiler
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2012, 02:17:32 PM
can someone explain why the mask lady would just give the information to jorah or is that a future spoiler

That doesn't happen in the book; she only talks to Dany in the book, and her comments are almost always prophetic, not necessarily "go here and you'll find x"
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 14, 2012, 02:21:03 PM
Haven't seen the ep yet.  Did they do The House of the Undying in this ep?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2012, 02:22:12 PM
No. Hmm, I could have sworn the creator of WiC said it would happen in Ep7. Next episode then
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 14, 2012, 02:34:59 PM
can someone explain why the mask lady would just give the information to jorah or is that a future spoiler

That doesn't happen in the book; she only talks to Dany in the book, and her comments are almost always prophetic, not necessarily "go here and you'll find x"

oh ok thanks
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on May 14, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
I really like what they've done with Quaithe (the masked woman). That mask she's wearing makes her eyes really eerie.
Imo, her eyes are very, very beautiful
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 14, 2012, 06:56:24 PM
Is eye fucking considered a sin in muslim countries

what are their views on eye fucking
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 14, 2012, 07:39:01 PM
"I don't want my fiance to know I'm slutty. Here, fuck my ass"

 :o
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 14, 2012, 07:44:14 PM
As long as its not anal, you're good. Women will do anal though to preserve their "vaginal virginity" before marriage.

That's not unique to muslim society, I know several "good christian girls" that did anal before vaginal because it wasn't "real" sex.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Robo on May 14, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
I agree with Sceneman, this show just keeps getting worse and worse.  I'll probably just watch it all when it's over if I still feel like it.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2012, 12:18:36 AM
You people are deranged, that was probably the best episode of the series yet.

BU BU BU BU THEY CHAAAAAANGED JON SNOW'S STUFF!  BU BU BU BU BU BU DANY'S DRAGONS DIDN'T GET KIDNAPPED IN QARTH!!!  Fucking self-entitled whiners wouldn't know a good adaptation if it kicked in the door singing Tubthumping and raped them for a solid week.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: The Sceneman on May 15, 2012, 12:24:10 AM
I agree with Sceneman, this show just keeps getting worse and worse.  I'll probably just watch it all when it's over if I still feel like it.

I just find there is never any satisfaction or payoff in any episode. So many threads are unravelling, but in the 7 episodes in this season virtually nothing cool has happened, no one significant has had their ass kicked, and all the annoying POSs are still on my screen blabbering their bullshit. I would pay 10$ for a special episode where Khaleesi's cohort dude pisses in her mouth while rambling in old english.   Hence why I'll wait until all the eps are out, and watch then.

And yes I don't know a lot of the characters actual names as they are never mentioned in the show and I'm not a nerbo who has read the books
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 15, 2012, 12:47:48 AM
You people are deranged, that was probably the best episode of the series yet.

BU BU BU BU THEY CHAAAAAANGED JON SNOW'S STUFF!  BU BU BU BU BU BU DANY'S DRAGONS DIDN'T GET KIDNAPPED IN QARTH!!!  Fucking self-entitled whiners wouldn't know a good adaptation if it kicked in the door singing Tubthumping and raped them for a solid week.

Agreed, by far. I thought the Jon stuff was great due to how amazing Ygritte is. It's not that she's so cute, she's a damn good actress and just owns the role. And I got goosebumps at the "you know nothing, Jon Snow" line. Yesssss

Sure, I'll miss the suspenseful events that happen in the book, but I'll wait and see what happens next episode before complaining.

Thoughts on the Jaime change? Some book people are wringing their hands, claiming this makes him a sociopath. As if throwing a kid out a window doesn't  :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2012, 12:51:02 AM
I still expect that Jaime's character arc is going to be one of my favorites, just like in the books.  What he did last episode was in character for him and I don't have a problem with it at all.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Robo on May 15, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
I agree with Sceneman, this show just keeps getting worse and worse.  I'll probably just watch it all when it's over if I still feel like it.

I just find there is never any satisfaction or payoff in any episode. So many threads are unravelling, but in the 7 episodes in this season virtually nothing cool has happened, no one significant has had their ass kicked, and all the annoying POSs are still on my screen blabbering their bullshit. I would pay 10$ for a special episode where Khaleesi's cohort dude pisses in her mouth while rambling in old english.   Hence why I'll wait until all the eps are out, and watch then.

And yes I don't know a lot of the characters actual names as they are never mentioned in the show and I'm not a nerbo who has read the books

Yep.  I haven't read the books, either, and I assume that's the problem.  There's absolutely no reason to watch this show week-to-week when there isn't an individual episodic arc and nothing of significance is boiling over without the foresight provided by knowing where it's headed. 

Last episode in particular: Jon Snow walked around in the tundra some more, Dany is still missing her dragons, Arya served some dinner (best part of an otherwise awful episode), Jamie escaped and got caught again and the only thing changed is that everyone wants to kill him extra dead now (but they still probably won't), and there was an obvious cliffhanger ending.  How exciting.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2012, 01:28:52 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with not having read the books; all of my irl friends who haven't read the books still think the show is awesome and incredibly well done.  One of two possibilities comes to mind- you expected a more action oriented series, and what you've been given is still at heart true to the books in that it's largely about what goes on behind the scenes with the people who rule; or option two, you're petulant wankers with shitty taste.

If it's option one, don't worry- I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy the final three episodes of the season.  I expect them to be full of action and SHIT HAPPENING.  If it's option two, do everyone else a favor and quit watching the show so we don't have to hear you whining like a little fucking girl.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 15, 2012, 01:59:30 AM
I can understand the general complaint of "nothing happening" for the first two episodes, where everyone basically talks about shit they're going to do. But the show has pretty much been on a roll since then, from Theon taking Winterfell to Tyrion doin thangs to the Stannis/Renly stuff. Yes, Arya is kind of stuck in a holding pattern, as was Jon in the last ep, but you can see where both arcs are going for the most part.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Beezy on May 15, 2012, 02:31:17 AM
Lol now people who haven't read the books are bitching too? My only complaint about the last episode is that there wasn't enough Tyrion.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 15, 2012, 02:34:24 AM
Lol now people who haven't read the books are bitching too? My only complaint about the last episode is that there wasn't enough Tyrion.

That is a valid complaint, however I really liked his scene with Cersei, where you can tell he's like "I really ought to be nice to her right now but I just don't know how"

Dinklage will probably just keep winning Emmys and Golden Globes n shit as long as this show is on
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 15, 2012, 02:42:57 AM
Hell, Cersei was pretty good in that scene too - and in this season overall. I didn't like her in S1, but the actress is definitely being elevated by the presence of Dinklage.

Dunno how I feel about her admitting the incest to Tyrion. He knows in the book, and trolls her mercilessly about it but she never outright confirms his snark. What a shame the show didn't include this gem: "It seems unfair that you would spread your legs for one brother, but not the other"  :lol

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2012, 06:44:34 PM
So I read that the final ep of the season will be Neil Marshall (The Descent, Dog Soldiers, Doomsday, Centurion) directing with GRRM script?  That is...kind of awesome.  Hyped for that ep.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 16, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
I just can't get enough of Arya.  I think that actress deserves an emmy nomination, she's been by far the best this season.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 16, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
I just can't get enough of Arya.  I think that actress deserves an emmy nomination, she's been by far the best this season.

F'realz, she and Tyrion deserve all the Emmys.  ALL THE EMMYS.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2012, 07:15:51 PM
I can agree with that.

Tywin, Robb, Jorah, Jaime, Cat are good actors/actresses too (I think Jorah's actor overdoes it a bit).



And everyone is better than Sansa & Dany.  Fuck, she they are such a bad actresses.  Dany overacts SO MUCH.  Sansa is just lolz, but that's her character, so hard to blame. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 16, 2012, 09:02:45 PM
I think Jorah is great. Most of the Dany stuff is often on the edge of cheese, and he manages to elevate every scene he's in.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 16, 2012, 09:22:20 PM
The guy who played Barristan Selmy was really good too

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...can't wait to see him later on :shh
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 16, 2012, 09:32:58 PM
I think Jorah is great. Most of the Dany stuff is often on the edge of cheese, and he manages to elevate every scene he's in.

I think the problem might be that Jorah is too dead pan shakespeare serious good acting for the group of lolz actors he is surrounded by in that story.  So he comes off as out of place, which I guess sort of fits his character, but it just seems like his acting level is on a whole different plateau than Dany and stuff.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 16, 2012, 09:38:32 PM
I think Jorah is great. Most of the Dany stuff is often on the edge of cheese, and he manages to elevate every scene he's in.

I agree with this. With that said, I can't wait for the additions to her entourage.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 16, 2012, 10:06:48 PM
Without spoiling what's coming next in the show, what exactly are the book purists complaining about?

The one thing I know is
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Arya killed the torturer guy.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2012, 12:05:00 AM
Without spoiling what's coming next in the show, what exactly are the book purists complaining about?

The one thing I know is
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Arya killed the torturer guy.
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I'll just give a couple examples:

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-In the book, Jon captures Ygritte and she is taken alongside the other Nights Watch members until she escapes. Halfhand later begins to realize the Wildlings are tracking them, which leads to some very suspenseful, tense moments. In the show Jon runs after Ygritte and gets lost, which makes so little sense considering how close they were to the Halfhand.

-After Tyrion secures power in King's Landing and learns about Cersei's plans to use wild fire, he turns his attention to a specific strategy to save the city from Stannis. In the show he seems to just be dicking around complaining about Joffery

-Arya starts out at the bottom of servitude in Harenhel before becoming a cup bearer. And even when she does reach that level, her life is still in grave danger. While I love her scenes with Tywin, there is next to no tension, nor is her situation dangerous: she's having a grand ole time serving good ol' uncle Tywin, who gives her some life lessons. Like I said, the scenes are good, but I still see this as a missed opportunity. Her book arc is very fucking good, and very frightening. Maise Williams is such a good actress that many people hoped her ACOK story would be told with nothing held back
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One thing that has sort of been botched is the potential threat of Stannis. No one in the city seems particularly panicked that the best battle commander in Westeros is on his way to attack. Tyrion has shown some concern, but he hasn't done much about it in the last few episodes. It's just weird and trivializes Stannis to me. B
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 17, 2012, 12:23:21 AM
First one, doesn't seem like a big deal.  Second one, I can see holding it off until later, since it has touched on it.  Third one, I can totally see why people would complain; it sounds completely different.  So those Tywin scenes are original? because they're my favorite parts of the show.

and yeah what happened to Stannis  :lol

show is pretty good at touching base on the various threads but I forgot Stannis was around
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2012, 12:25:22 AM
There was more focus on Stannis when he had no men or ships. Now he has 200 ships and they're like "lol Stannis, who?" smh

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2012, 12:59:08 AM
Without spoiling what's coming next in the show, what exactly are the book purists complaining about?

The one thing I know is
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Arya killed the torturer guy.
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You know, I could list 60+ scenes that were changed for the worse this season and yet I don't think that one you mentioned matters at all.  I have no idea why book fans cared about that change.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 17, 2012, 02:02:08 AM
Because the scene involving those two later on is easily the best Arya moment in the books, and would be an Emmy-worthy scene for Maisie Williams.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on May 17, 2012, 02:36:01 AM
There was more focus on Stannis when he had no men or ships. Now he has 200 ships and they're like "lol Stannis, who?" smh

Probably because that so far in the TV series, Stannis isn't as interesting as his brother was.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2012, 02:38:20 AM
There was more focus on Stannis when he had no men or ships. Now he has 200 ships and they're like "lol Stannis, who?" smh

Probably because that so far in the TV series, Stannis isn't as interesting as his brother was.

True, I'm not saying he needs more scenes. Just that it's odd that no one in King's Landing, or Tywin, seems to be saying preparing
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 17, 2012, 03:05:21 AM
Because the scene involving those two later on is easily the best Arya moment in the books, and would be an Emmy-worthy scene for Maisie Williams.

I used to just imagine that scene playing out in the HBO series, with Maisie Williams saying those lines.

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How many, how many, how many, how many, how many?
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My imaginary version of that scene was enough to give me chills. And it will NEVER happen. Jesus, that's almost as depressing as tonight's Lakers loss.

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Where is the silver in the village? Where is the gold in the village?!??!
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2012, 03:14:20 AM
Because the scene involving those two later on is easily the best Arya moment in the books, and would be an Emmy-worthy scene for Maisie Williams.

They could still do the same exact same scene with a different person.

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Tickler was just some common grunt on her list of death wishes which has several.  The dialogue will be slightly different, but you can still do a very similar scene.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 17, 2012, 03:27:26 AM
maybe she could do it to the hound instead?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 17, 2012, 04:14:20 AM
Because the scene involving those two later on is easily the best Arya moment in the books, and would be an Emmy-worthy scene for Maisie Williams.

They could still do the same exact same scene with a different person.

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Tickler was just some common grunt on her list of death wishes which has several.  The dialogue will be slightly different, but you can still do a very similar scene.
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He wasn't just a common grunt, she was repeating his words back to him, words that she had heard over and over and over again as he tortured people with them day after day and she was subjected to it. It's her ultimate moment of catharsis and what makes her character. It's never going to happen, and I HIGHLY doubt they'll find a suitable replacement.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 17, 2012, 12:38:51 PM
Because the scene involving those two later on is easily the best Arya moment in the books, and would be an Emmy-worthy scene for Maisie Williams.

They could still do the same exact same scene with a different person.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Tickler was just some common grunt on her list of death wishes which has several.  The dialogue will be slightly different, but you can still do a very similar scene.
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smh.

I don't like what they are doing with Tywin, the producers seem to have forgotten that this is the same man that ordered the dead of two babies (one still on his mother's tit) to please his new king, sent three monsters to burn down the riverlands and is responsible for thousands of deads on that region, cause the extinction of two houses and since they call it extinction I assume he killed the children too.

Now he is telling personal stories to a highborn northern girl and even smiling for her, smfh.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
Eh, even in the books I thought Tywin was a decent guy.  He does what needs to be done in order to keep people respecting and fearing the Lannister family name.  In the books he has scenes that show humanity, and he has scenes that show him making cruel, but intelligent, leadership decisions. 

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The backstory that his brother gives to Tyrion in ASOS about how Tywin's father was a joke and everyone stole from the Lannisters and made a laugh of them and how there was a lot of pressure on Tywin to turn it around and rebuild his family legacy, gives a lot of empathy for his character.
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I think the TV version of him is toned down a little, but the actor does a good job so I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on May 17, 2012, 12:55:43 PM
lol you really feel empathy because people used to make fun of his family? the guy is a monster, he is not a crazy monster like Joff or the mad king but he is still a monster.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 17, 2012, 01:07:18 PM
He's smart and cunning and does what needs to be done to win.

I don't think that makes him a horrible person.  He's not a good guy, but I can understand where he's coming from.  He's in that middle grey area between good & bad like many of the characters in the series.  He makes for a good antagonist for that reason.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2012, 01:10:02 PM
I honestly don't think Tywin is a monster. He's a practical man and I can see him being amused by Arya's personality

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Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 17, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
Book Tywin =\= Show Tywin
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 17, 2012, 01:36:26 PM
which is disappointing
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2012, 01:48:14 PM

"...we had come late to Robert's cause. it was necessary to demonstrate our loyalty. When I laid those bodies before the throne no man could doubt that we had forsaken House Targaryen forever. And Robert's relief was palpable. As stupid as he was he even knew Rhaegar's children had to die if his throne was ever to be secure. Yet he saw himself as a hero and heroes do not kill children".


There's no excuse for killing children or exterminating houses - or burning harvests. And yet Tywin struck me more as a ruthless battle commander than some evil dog. He does what it takes to win wars, which is why he has never lost. He's not concerned with honor, moreso with respect and fear (which go hand in hand to him)

The show Tywin is basically the book Tywin to me. Perhaps more...happy but outside of that it's perfect.
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Post by: Groogrux on May 18, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
To me, the show is just showing another side of the same exact character.  I can see him in both lights tbh.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 19, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
Cool family tree for house Targaryen
http://awoiaf.westeros.org:8080/images/c/c6/House_Targaryen_Family_tree.jpg

/nerds

dat incest
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Post by: Third on May 20, 2012, 04:27:25 PM
I'm such a fan of this show!!!

Having read all of the books so far, I'd say the producers made a good job out of this.

Sure, some changes are a bit...UNACCEPTABLE...but I still love the show. Escpeailly the different POV's. It makes the material a bit refreshing.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 20, 2012, 09:34:28 PM
The Man is awesome

ok, other than that one scene it was a weak episode.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 21, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
Rather somber episode, which makes sense. Calm before the storm, to put it lightly. I can't say I liked the Robb stuff, and a lot of the dialogue was rather clunky and heavy handed tonight. Especially that cheesy final scene. Overall it was a good episode, but one of the weaker ones this season.

Also as many predicted, Ros turned out to be the prostitute Cersei captured/had beaten. Yet that scene was so brief and anti-climatic that I can't help but laugh at the entire farce. This character has taken up considerable screen time for two seasons, only to build up to that? She looked like she had been slapped a couple times. Someone really needs to ask the writers what the point of all that was, because I can't possibly imagine anyone feeling any connection to that "character."
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Post by: Diunx on May 21, 2012, 01:21:00 AM
wow is there one story arc they haven't fucked up? maybe Theon but you can tell that by the end it won't be as awesome as the book, the biggest victim here is Arya, no weasel soup apparently.
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Post by: chronovore on May 21, 2012, 01:49:17 AM
Yeah, I was not feeling this episode much, but Tyrion was still very good in every scene, and we got to see Oona Chaplin nekkid, so I'm good.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 21, 2012, 01:52:07 AM
Yeah, episode was just kinda "there" for lack of a better term.  Looking forward to the last two, I'm willing to bet they'll be pretty rad.
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Post by: The Sceneman on May 21, 2012, 01:52:31 AM
eek, even the hardcore fans are saying this episode isn't good. I will give this one a miss and continue watching Dragonball Z, a show that understands pacing and subtlety.

I'll watch the last 3 episodes at once, after the season finale is out
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 21, 2012, 03:52:39 AM
Arya/Jaqen scene was fucking NEUTERED from the book. They had glorious goddamn writing to just lift from the book, and they threw it all away.

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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 21, 2012, 04:13:19 AM
Which is a pity because it's not like she's a supremely complicated character. I mean, yeah, non-book-readers think she's great and a badass, but outside of words she's nothing to show for it. By now, she would have been established as both a badass with words AND with weapons.
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 21, 2012, 04:28:26 AM
Clearly, you guys should be running the show.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 21, 2012, 05:19:34 AM
It would be ten times better than you having anything to do with it.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 21, 2012, 05:35:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVJpNRWWEX8
holy shit
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 21, 2012, 05:50:50 AM
i thought the last two episodes were the best of the season.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 21, 2012, 05:54:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVJpNRWWEX8
holy shit
Second-best episode of TV this year is soooo close! One week!
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Post by: Diunx on May 21, 2012, 11:30:36 AM
What a letdown of a season, I hope they don't fuck this up too.

And what's with Stannis leading the attack without a horse or even a fucking guard by his side? are they serious?
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Post by: Diunx on May 21, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
Osha just casually walking around winterfell :rofl

The two showrunners are not very good, if it wasn't for the excellent source material this show wouldn't have made it past the first season.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 21, 2012, 02:38:45 PM
Disclaimer: I think this season has been good overall as television, and like it more than S1

It wouldn't even have to be an extended chase scene. Basically it's stuff like this that makes me question the writers. This is a case where you have to ask "is the new material an improvement over the book, is the book scene too expensive to shoot, etc." I won't spoiler tag this, I'd love to get non book reader's opinions

What we got: Jon walking around with Ygritte for two episodes. I love Ygritte, she had some great lines and I loved seeing her tease Jon. After an unlikely escape, Jon re-captures her and attempts to track his comrades but is led into a trap.

What we could have gotten: Jon capturing Ygritte and bringing her to the Halfhand/NW ranger camp. After determining she will offer no value, Halfhand tells Jon to "do with her what you must." Jon eventually lets her escape, and shortly afterward an eagle starts following the rangers. Initially it seems like a small wildling scouting party is hunting them, but quickly they realize it's a much larger group. One by one, rangers start dying or disappearing. Eventually they're led into a trap

Basically the show has put Jon, Dany, and Robb in a giant holding pattern. Jon walking around with Ygritte, Robb hanging out in camp doing nothing, and Dany waltzing around Qarth doing nothing - even after her dragons are stolen and her people are killed. That has given the writers the chance to create scenes that aren't in the book, and just about all of them have been average or bad. Like Robb's abrupt romance last night, or everything with Xaro/Qarth (although I liked the warlock killing the Thirteen).
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Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2012, 02:50:48 PM
I think maybe they cut Arya's story because they were iffy about having a young girl be involved in violence (given or taken).  A lot of the violence in the show and fucked up scenes have been toned down to more acceptable mainstream moral levels.

Even Renly was stabbed in the chest instead of his throat being cut and blood spraying out everywhere.
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Post by: cool breeze on May 21, 2012, 03:10:35 PM
I haven't read the books.  To me it just feels like very little is happening over a long period of time.

I enjoy certain scenes with Arya and Tywin, Arya and The Man, handsome dwarf, Stannis and not so-Jean Reno, and other stuff.  What I'm missing is the big picture.  I can't describe it well.  It's not like I'm not enjoying it since I'm still watching it.

I will say that I've more desire to read the second book than I had for the first book and season.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 21, 2012, 04:15:09 PM
I haven't read the books.  To me it just feels like very little is happening over a long period of time.

I enjoy certain scenes with Arya and Tywin, Arya and The Man, handsome dwarf, Stannis and not so-Jean Reno, and other stuff.  What I'm missing is the big picture.  I can't describe it well.  It's not like I'm not enjoying it since I'm still watching it.

I will say that I've more desire to read the second book than I had for the first book and season.
The books, fourth and fifth aside, have a lot going on continuously but they almost always start out at a slow pace and then ramp up. The show is hurt by having only 10 episodes per season.
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Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2012, 04:33:37 PM
I haven't read the books.  To me it just feels like very little is happening over a long period of time.

I enjoy certain scenes with Arya and Tywin, Arya and The Man, handsome dwarf, Stannis and not so-Jean Reno, and other stuff.  What I'm missing is the big picture.  I can't describe it well.  It's not like I'm not enjoying it since I'm still watching it.

I will say that I've more desire to read the second book than I had for the first book and season.

Here's the deal:  If you read book 2, you'll get a better story with better characters and better dialogues, but then you will need to read book 3 (since S3 won't be in continuity with Book 2 and some of these plotlines/characters will be book exclusive) and then you'll hate S3 next year when you watch it.

If you want to keep enjoying the show, don't read the books.

P.S. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Davos looks like Jean Reno.

I haven't read the books.  To me it just feels like very little is happening over a long period of time.

I enjoy certain scenes with Arya and Tywin, Arya and The Man, handsome dwarf, Stannis and not so-Jean Reno, and other stuff.  What I'm missing is the big picture.  I can't describe it well.  It's not like I'm not enjoying it since I'm still watching it.

I will say that I've more desire to read the second book than I had for the first book and season.
The books, fourth and fifth aside, have a lot going on continuously but they almost always start out at a slow pace and then ramp up. The show is hurt by having only 10 episodes per season.

10 eps is doable.  10eps with limited budget that forces them to focus on a few scenes per ep and avoid anything that would cost them money, is what makes them change everything. 
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Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2012, 04:46:48 PM
fwiw, I enjoy watching the eps and it's very fun to see the show brought to life with these actors.

I just think S2 is a really really bad adaptation of a great book, whereas S1 seemed more or less to be the book brought to life (missing 1 or 2 scenes).
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 21, 2012, 05:24:32 PM
I will say that the past few episodes' pacing has felt "off" for lack of a better term.  I still don't fault the show runners too much, because you have a bunch of characters that you're trying to move along and have shit happen with, but Dany's dragons were stolen TWO EPISODES ago and sill no resolution is kinda dumb.
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Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2012, 05:31:38 PM
Well, because they're saving House of the Undying (where the dragons are currently) for the final ep.  I think they pushed it back to the final ep because it's a cool scene with some build up for the next few seasons that will work as a closer and leave viewers wanting the next season.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 21, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Dany's been missing from a few episodes this season, too ... so much filler. Every time it cuts to her it's like the day spa at Caesar's Palace
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 21, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
Agreed, it's cheesy as hell. Not only were her dragons stolen, but like half of her people were murdered in cold blood. And her response has literally been to

1. Brood in her room
2. Demand Jorah fix the situation
3. Walk around the city with little protection
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Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
So looking at the next ep preview and reading about how the battle won't be the battle that's in the book because (paraphrasing) "A battle like that would be hard to do in even a 200 million budget movie ( ::) )". 

Since there was no chain in the show, and boats cost money even with CG, I'm guessing
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there will be no Blackwater Bay and it'll just be Stannis pulling up on Mud Gate, Tyrion throwing wildfire on him, Sandor running and then Tyrion leading the squad out to meet Stannis' army and then getting axed in the face.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2012, 02:47:59 PM
Everything shown thus far from the battle looks amazing, I'm pumped. Neil Marshall is directing it, who has filmed great battle scenes with limited budgets before. The showrunners even got a 15% budget increase to help film the scenes.

So yes, it's going to be awesome. It's not going to be LOTR, but I don't see how anyone expected it would be
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Post by: Bebpo on May 24, 2012, 04:31:07 PM
Oh, I love Niel Mashall.  Dog Soldiers is fricken awesome.  It'll probably be a cool battle.

I just wanted to see
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dozens of ships being set alight in green fire as the entire bay is flaming and people are burning drowning everywhere in total chaos and Davos being in the middle of it all.
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Post by: Diunx on May 25, 2012, 01:31:05 AM
I just want green fire and lots of gore and of course the song scene.
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Post by: drew on May 25, 2012, 11:16:45 AM
just started watching this (almost done with ep 2), think i'm gonna make this my new show, yep.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 27, 2012, 10:01:42 PM
WHAT A FUCKING EPISODE!
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Post by: Diunx on May 28, 2012, 12:06:53 AM
Fantastic episode :bow Neil Marshall :bow2 :bow Lena Headey :bow2
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Post by: Himu on May 28, 2012, 12:09:51 AM
tonight :bow
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 28, 2012, 12:45:51 AM
WILDFIRE :rock
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 28, 2012, 12:50:19 AM
I don't think I've seen a more impressive piece of CG effects from a TV show in... ever. They nailed the explosion so hard.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 12:54:13 AM
That was a great episode, I just wish I never watched Season 2 of Spartacus and that final episode, it just kinda set this impossible standard in my head.

The non-battle scenes were out-of-the-park though.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 01:35:16 AM
Holy fuck @ that episode. Not just the best episode of Game Of Thrones, that was one of the best episodes of television. I've been hard on this show at times, but that was simply stunning.

I also loved how every time a character was about to start telling a story, they were interrupted. It was almost like Martin trolling lol
That was a great episode, I just wish I never watched Season 2 of Spartacus and that final episode, it just kinda set this impossible standard in my head.

The non-battle scenes were out-of-the-park though.

Wait are you arguing the battle in Spartacus' S2 finale was bigger than tonight's? It wasn't even close in terms of money, extras, or direction. Game Of Thrones just took a giant dump on every (non miniseries) television battle ever
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Post by: Groogrux on May 28, 2012, 01:42:39 AM
Who was singing "Rains of Castamere" at the end?  Gave me fucking chill bumps after that awesome fucking episode.

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Apparently it was The National that sang it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2l2_v6Ur8
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 01:46:29 AM
Who was singing "Rains of Castamere" at the end?  Gave me fucking chill bumps after that awesome fucking episode.
The National

apparently that explosion alone cost $7mil, holy fuck
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 01:47:02 AM
Holy fuck @ that episode. Not just the best episode of Game Of Thrones, that was one of the best episodes of television. I've been hard on this show at times, but that was simply stunning.

I also loved how every time a character was about to start telling a story, they were interrupted. It was almost like Martin trolling lol
That was a great episode, I just wish I never watched Season 2 of Spartacus and that final episode, it just kinda set this impossible standard in my head.

The non-battle scenes were out-of-the-park though.


Wait are you arguing the battle in Spartacus' S2 finale was bigger than tonight's? It wasn't even close in terms of money, extras, or direction. Game Of Thrones just took a giant dump on every (non miniseries) television battle ever

Spartacus still has GoT beat in terms of cinematography and effective use of space, so yes, no matter how much money and extras they threw at the Blackwater battle, I still think Wrath of the Gods had it beat. Yes. Definitely.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 01:52:19 AM
Incomprehensible, I'm sorry. Neil Marshal did an amazing job, the camera was great tonight. Not even the greatest director in the world could make the 20-60 men in the Spartacus finale look larger/more imposing than the literally hundreds of extras in tonight's episode.

Use of space? Cinematography? It's like we watched a different episode. You are literally factually wrong bro. The only thing I've seen that tops that battle was in Band Of Brothers (miniseries, far more money). I've criticized this season a lot, but that episode was nearly perfect. The only bad thing was the lack of Sansa's song
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 01:54:53 AM
And I completely fucking disagree. Way to just call me factually wrong, though. I was way, way more impressed by the non-battle scenes in this episode than the overall battle. Lena Headey deserves an Emmy.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 01:56:16 AM
I still love you but if we were a couple you'd be on the coach tonight  :-*
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 01:56:52 AM
THE COUCH GIVES BETTER SEX THAN YOU DO
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Post by: chronovore on May 28, 2012, 02:19:47 AM
So, wait, after Joffrey goes back to the red keep or crying to his room or whatever, Tyrion tells some fancy armored guy "You'll fight as the king's representative," or something.

Later, that same armored guy is the one who cut Tyrion's face, isn't he?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 02:23:42 AM
So, wait, after Joffrey goes back to the red keep or crying to his room or whatever, Tyrion tells some fancy armored guy "You'll fight as the king's representative," or something.

Later, that same armored guy is the one who cut Tyrion's face, isn't he?

Yes, it was a member of the King's Guard (Ser Meryn). He was the knight who regularly beat Sansa, and Tyrion threatened a few episodes ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVvpRpTiUlo
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Post by: chronovore on May 28, 2012, 02:30:53 AM
Ah, so do you think he was operating on his own, getting revenge for being embarrassed, or has Cersei instructed him to bring down Tyrion if an opportunity presented itself?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 02:45:41 AM
Hmm there's some debate on who did the deed. In the book it's not Ser Meryn, it's another knight who I thought had not been included in the show (Ser Mandon Moore). But folks on GAF are saying Moore is the one who sliced Tyrion tonight; he was the knight who reported to Cersei the news of a group of ladies attempting to steal horses from the stable.

I'll have to watch again. I figured they were just changing things from the book, since Moore had not appeared in previous episodes whereas Meryn was already established as an asshole who hated Tyrion
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Post by: Human Snorenado on May 28, 2012, 04:10:25 AM
Episode was pretty much all that and a bag of chips.

Also, I would put zephyrfate on ignore cause it's obvious he is just trolling at this point (plus admitted to watching Spartacus as something other than a guilty pleasure) but for some reason ignore seems to have disappeared.
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Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2012, 05:17:39 AM
Perfect episode.

Best episode in the series and after a season of the TV being almost nothing like the book its adapting, having an episode where EVERYONE IS IN CHARACTER EVERY SINGLE SCENE was just really really awesome.  They didn't waste a second, every minute of those 50ish minutes was packed with content and all the major events from the battle were actually used (though for budget reasons they played out in different locations).  Directing was great, and the gore was a bit over the top but Marshall is a horror director with a history of gore, so it worked.  Why Tyrion cuts the guys leg off it was  :lol

I think the only issue is that because it felt like an ep for book readers without dumbing shit down, I feel like most tv viewers will be confused as to exactly what was happening.  But then I figure next ep they'll sit viewers down and explain what happened so it'll work out.  I also think certain scenes that I'm glad they DID will not have the impact they should because their arcs weren't developed like HOUNDxSANSA.

But if you look at the ep in a vacuum, it was perfect and I only wish the rest of the show was as faithful to the source material as this ep was.
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Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 05:53:44 AM
Episode was pretty much all that and a bag of chips.

Also, I would put zephyrfate on ignore cause it's obvious he is just trolling at this point (plus admitted to watching Spartacus as something other than a guilty pleasure) but for some reason ignore seems to have disappeared.
Uh, the last season of Spartacus was one of the best seasons of TV out there, so... it's pretty much just you trolling.
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Post by: etiolate on May 28, 2012, 06:59:29 AM
Yeah there was a lot of confusion at the end for non-book readers. I didn't realize that was the white knight and his crew with Tywin, because I hadn't seen him in awhile and it just wouldn't make sense for him to join up with his exbfs sworn enemies.

It will feel kind of weird going back to all the other plots for just one final episode after already having the big episode.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 28, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
for non book readers, the notion of "sword enemies" is something that should be dropped. Houses can align and realign at the drop of the hate in this world and only a few specifically are truly loyal.

I think showing Littlefinger at Renly's camp was a perfect setup for Loras and crew showing up to save Kings Landing. They didn't specifically say they were going to switch camps but it's implied enough so that when it happens you can recall back to the scene and nod your head.

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Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 28, 2012, 12:47:43 PM
godamn I love Sander Clegane now.  "Fuck the King."  :o
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:01:51 PM
that was a ok episode if you have no brain and think action is all that matters. story wise it was a fucking mess and the "twist" at the end was laughable deus ex machina shit. garbage.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 02:03:30 PM
 :lol

The non-battles scenes were the best scenes
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:04:21 PM
seriously it was shit, groan inducing. especially after season 1 where it seemed so well written now you have literally everything that is wrong with writing in teh episode. plot twists you can see a mile away, a killer all of a sudden being a good guy for no real reason, daddy coming in at the end and saving the day.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 02:05:59 PM
You're referring to The Hound? It's been rather obvious he's been...interested in Sansa since S1. The book makes it more blatant perhaps, but nothing he did in Sansa's room was out of character
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
I guess but it was stupid that he'd turn on the king all of a sudden i dunno just felt too convenient. and it seemed like the episode WAS going the right way only for that shitty ending
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:08:44 PM
oh also its hard to tell the difference between loras and that lannister squire guy who the queen pushed the arrow in or w/e
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 28, 2012, 02:12:54 PM
as i said earlier, they setup the Tyrell/Lannister union pretty well earlier in the season after Renly dies. I mean they even spell it out that half of Renly's banners went with Stannis. The scene with Magaery and Littlefinger should have made you think what the other half was going to do.

also you dont know what deus ex machina means.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:14:57 PM
 is a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object.





That exactly describes what happened at the end of the episode. A bunch of characters you wouldn't know unless you read the book because they all look the same other than Tywin, who did show suddenly and abruptly to save the day.  And even if they did set it up they did come all of a sudden which is exactly what a deus ex is. you lose
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:18:32 PM
please tell me fistful how the ending of the episode wasn't a unresolvable problem for cersei and stupid kid that wasn't abruptly and suddenly resolved by Tywin and Loras coming through the games in a new event?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
Dude, the Lannisters won this battle.

 :patel
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 28, 2012, 02:21:30 PM
but what happened wasn't a new event, character, ability or object.

The Tyrell army, who was formally with Renly, aligned with the Lannisters after the death of Renly (as foreshadowed earlier in the season) and reached Kings Landing in time to save the city.

When you think back to what you saw in the season it all makes sense.

Now if you didn't like the fact that it happened just when the battle was seemingly lost, then that's just dramatic storytelling 101.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
that IS the problem that it happened to a unresolved problem all of a sudden, it is the definition of a deus ex
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 02:24:48 PM
I thought it was rather obvious why The Hound left the battlefield, and ultimately quit Joffery. He wasn't going out there again with fire everywhere

In terms of the end, I suppose one could argue it was a LOTR-esque "the eagles are coming" moment. The show didn't do a good idea of explaining how Tywin got to the city in time because that part has completely been changed from the book. I don't think deus ex machina applies here: Tywin arrives in time to save the city. It's not a plot that came out of nowhere - Tywin left Harenhel (which is close to King's Landing) in the previous episode, and the Tyrell forces most likely met him outside of King's Landing.

book explanation for those that want it:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Robb comes up with a plan to flank Tywin's forces between his northern army and an army led by his uncle Edmure (Catelyn's little brother). Edmure fucks up the trap by attacking Tywin before Robb's army can get to the battle. While Tywin loses the battle, he manages to escape and then hears that Stannis is mere days from King's Landing. He leaves the battlefield and marches for King's Landing immediately at break neck speed, and is ultimately met by the Tyrell forces along the way.

Basically if Robb's uncle didn't fuck it up, the north could have destroyed Tywin's forces while Stannis successfully sacked King's Landing.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 28, 2012, 02:27:20 PM
that IS the problem that it happened to a unresolved problem all of a sudden, it is the definition of a deus ex

so you just dont like that the show revealed the Tyrell/Lannister alliance at a pivotal dramatic point in the episode and not the fact that they were aligned in the first place?

sounds like a minor squabble on your part. if you can't get over that then you probably should stop watching the show.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 02:28:11 PM
I think its just more dissapointing considering how well written this show has been for it to come to that. or im just really amd that the lannisters arent dead
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 28, 2012, 02:29:50 PM
Is Stannis this baller in the book? He's in front leading everyone else without heavy armor or shield.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 02:35:02 PM
Is Stannis this baller in the book? He's in front leading everyone else without heavy armor or shield.

The battle occurs from Davos and Tyrion's POVs in the book, so you don't really see much Stannis. He was on the battlefield in the novel commanding his forces, but I can't imagine him going up a ladder first lol. That seems more like something Robert or Robb Stark would do. He's badass in the book, just in other ways

he was pretty baller though, I liked it. I doubt his men would have reacted well if he just told them "alright, go take the city while I give out commands yo." In the show, he had to make that decision or face mutiny
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on May 28, 2012, 02:44:38 PM
Is Stannis this baller in the book? He's in front leading everyone else without heavy armor or shield.
Running through arrows with no shield. Having that "hold me back" moment at the end, pretty baws
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 28, 2012, 02:57:35 PM
god, fucking leper methodis

again
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
One note that I was sort of bummed wasn't in the episode. When Stannis sees the Tyrell forces, most importantly a man in Renly's armor, it would have been cool if he whispered "Renly...?" in utter disbelief. In the book, the Stannis forces are routed in part because they flee, thinking Renly has risen from the dead. It turns out to be Loras Tyrell's brother Garland in the armor, who is considered one of the three men in the realm capable of holding their own against Jaime Lannister in a fight. Of course in the show, it's Loras in the armor which is fine since Garland hasn't been introduced
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 28, 2012, 03:15:25 PM
I thought it was rather obvious why The Hound left the battlefield, and ultimately quit Joffery. He wasn't going out there again with fire everywhere


I think it's more confusing in the show because there wasn't enough fire (yeah he saw a guy run at him on fire and a few people on fire around him, but in the book it seemed the entire area outside the gate was on fire.  Like you would walk out the gate and all you would see is raging fire everywhere.  So when The Hound saw all that and went into shock and took off, it made more sense.  Should've set more stuff on fire in the foreground in the show.  But then some of the actors might have gotten burnt while trying to fight around it.

It also has the problem of a lot of other subplots in the series where they didn't do a good job developing and establishing his great fear of fire that's still with him from when he was burned as a kid.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 03:23:28 PM
i didnt even know he was afriad of fire it was poorly written
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 28, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
i didnt even know he was afriad of fire it was poorly written

If you had been following the fucking show since, oh I don't know, the first fucking episode, you'd know his aversion to fire
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 03:45:45 PM
hE NEVER SAYS he's afraid or has a fear of fire you stupid fucking hipster. nothing in the show eludes to him being a big fucking pansy afraid of fire, and being afraid of the equivalent of a small bonfire is even more laugahble.

this show is horrendous.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on May 28, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4qx4qKL5Q1qzzbzo.jpg)


 i knew i remember the doll from somewhere.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 04:53:22 PM
without spoiling it is there going ot be any major big plot twists on this next episode and are the book and tv shopw back on teh same apge?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 28, 2012, 05:02:50 PM
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4qx4qKL5Q1qzzbzo.jpg)


 i knew i remember the doll from somewhere.

Sansa  :-[ :heart
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 05:11:17 PM
without spoiling it is there going ot be any major big plot twists on this next episode and are the book and tv shopw back on teh same apge?

There will be major plot development/twists. Last season's finale kind of just was the aftermath of ep9 while setting up for the next season; the big event of course was the Dany stuff at the end. This time there's more stuff to resolve, some of which will be big. It's a 70 minute episode

The show has made some big diversions from the book in terms of absent characters/areas which won't be addressed until next season apparently. We'll see. There's one scene in particular for next week that I can't imagine them having the budget for, given how expensive Blackwater was - so there will be major changes I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 05:19:03 PM
thank you PD. wanted to make sure that Davos wasn't this seasons big plot twist
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 28, 2012, 05:31:17 PM
Maaaaaaaaaaaan now I must wait a whole week to find out whats up.

This one was so good.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 05:32:41 PM
BTW bros, avoid the GoT S2 soundtrack on itunes/wherever. The last song title is a major spoiler
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
wat happened to Ser Barristan
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 07:10:48 PM
hE NEVER SAYS he's afraid or has a fear of fire you stupid fucking hipster. nothing in the show eludes to him being a big fucking pansy afraid of fire, and being afraid of the equivalent of a small bonfire is even more laugahble.

this show is horrendous.
He had half his face melted in a fire, so

yeah

fucking

duh he would hate fire
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 28, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
Yeah he sees a guy get burned and he's like "fuck this war shit for this dipshit king".

Makes sense to me.

He's not afraid.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 28, 2012, 07:13:32 PM
uh

they flat out say in season 1 that his brother put his head in a fire.

during last night, someone waved a torch with fire on it. he flinched.

later on when he's sent to the front, he says don't shoot those fire arrows at me or i will hang you by your intestines.

half of his face is burned.

he sees some guy running at him with full force on fire.

someone with a brain should be able to come to a conclusion.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 07:19:36 PM
w/e you guys defend bad writing all u want its ok
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 28, 2012, 07:21:09 PM
He seemed more stunned then afraid Himuro no?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 28, 2012, 07:22:21 PM
dude required wine. wine indicates fear.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 07:23:49 PM
wine doesnt indicate fear thats a piss poor excuse. he didn't look scared he just looked stunned like how everyone else did. also it looked like tame fire. it was weak.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 28, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
I just hope that fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow king dies soon. Maybe old man Lannister can cut his balls of or something.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 07:40:31 PM
w/e you guys defend bad writing all u want its ok
you have no idea what bad writing is, so it's okay

in fact, the words "bad" and "writing" seem to be elusive to you in their meaning
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
dont go toe to toe with me bruv that is a fight u WILL lose
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 07:46:43 PM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on May 28, 2012, 07:52:48 PM
Also, as soon as I saw Cersei drinking, I thought, This should be enlightening. And there's NO WAY this will end well. What a raging cunt.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 28, 2012, 08:24:43 PM
hE NEVER SAYS he's afraid or has a fear of fire you stupid fucking hipster. nothing in the show eludes to him being a big fucking pansy afraid of fire, and being afraid of the equivalent of a small bonfire is even more laugahble.

this show is horrendous.

except, you know, the explicit scene where littlefinger tells sansa about it.  and joffrey telling sansa about the hound.  and several other scenes both this season and the last.

You're fucking distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 08:28:09 PM
so you literally ahve to have aspergers to notice little delivery lines that are throw offs is his massive fear of campfires ok got it
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 28, 2012, 08:29:35 PM
yes, you need aspergers to understand simple dialogue in television

do you even fucking listen to yourself sometimes
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 08:33:18 PM
no wheres in the show does it say he's afraid of fire. NO WHERE.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 28, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
no wheres in the show does it say he's afraid of fire. NO WHERE.

let's pad this out so that you may understand

if you had your face half-melted in a fire by your brother when you were of a very young age

you're saying

that there's NO REASON AT ALL that you might be afraid of fire, considering the mental/emotional/physical/EVERYTHING trauma of this incident? No. Of course not.

On top of that, he flinches at torches, he tells his men to not send fire arrows anywhere near him -- it's about as subtle as hitting you in the face with a brick.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 28, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
ya w/e keep defending bad writing in the show
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on May 28, 2012, 09:21:18 PM
Also, as soon as I saw Cersei drinking, I thought, This should be enlightening. And there's NO WAY this will end well. What a raging cunt.

???

I thought everything she said was true.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 28, 2012, 09:26:24 PM
no wheres in the show does it say he's afraid of fire. NO WHERE.

Its painful how under developed Clegane is but you can imagine from Littlefingers insight on his past that he'd be afraid of fire especially with the big ass burn on the side of his head
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 28, 2012, 09:28:24 PM
ya w/e keep defending bad writing in the show

This is the argument you go to when you know you're fucking wrong, you moron
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on May 28, 2012, 09:31:02 PM
I don't think the hound's past is prevalent enough to immediatly connect a fear or scar from fire to the character's sudden turn away from everything they've been having a raging boner for during the past few episodes. The shot of it doesn't help too much either. Seeing a guy with his face on fire and then maybe covering it with sand or something with a mirrored shot of the hound would have made it click more, but there were tons of people on fire while the hound is fighting and suddenly one random one makes a difference? It could have been more direct considering how much the hound stands in the background of the story.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2012, 10:02:43 PM
I will certainly agree the Hound's backstory isn't prevalent in previous episodes, and in that episode they decided to hit viewers over the head with it multiple times before the battle (him being afraid of the torch, threatening the archers, watching in horror as Stannis' fleet burned, etc). That being said, I do believe there was enough there for viewers to "get" his fear of fire.

Too bad the show has pretty much marginalized him, he's such an awesome character. I have no problem with them not appeasing the SanSan shippers, but I did want the song  :'(

anyway McCann is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIWX2fPx-5k
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 28, 2012, 10:51:24 PM
God fucking dammit methodis, I am going to pray to a god I don't even believe in that he kill you painfully.  First I want your goddamn fingers to fall off due to leprosy or whatever, so we don't have to endure your horseshit on here anymore.  Then, in a month or whatever, I want to read an obituary something along the lines of "noted honkey internet troll slowly eaten by venomous moths over a 3 week period, no one cares" because that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on May 28, 2012, 11:52:41 PM
Also, as soon as I saw Cersei drinking, I thought, This should be enlightening. And there's NO WAY this will end well. What a raging cunt.

???

I thought everything she said was true.

It was true, sure. She's still a raging cunt. Here's why: She is of the belief that this war will not end well, and the "guard" in the tower will most likely have the duty of killing all the women in the room just to prevent them from being raped and bearing bastards. She's terrified. Sansa's terrified too, but she's organizing things to keep people calm, keep them from panicking. Cersei goes out of her way to try and freak Sansa out with what's to come, as well as taking Sansa away from her active efforts to try and calm people's nerves.

Cunt.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 29, 2012, 09:58:56 AM
God fucking dammit methodis, I am going to pray to a god I don't even believe in that he kill you painfully.  First I want your goddamn fingers to fall off due to leprosy or whatever, so we don't have to endure your horseshit on here anymore.  Then, in a month or whatever, I want to read an obituary something along the lines of "noted honkey internet troll slowly eaten by venomous moths over a 3 week period, no one cares" because that would be awesome.

well the gods gave me the hershey squirts so i guess congrats?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 29, 2012, 10:18:55 AM
I will certainly agree the Hound's backstory isn't prevalent in previous episodes, and in that episode they decided to hit viewers over the head with it multiple times before the battle (him being afraid of the torch, threatening the archers, watching in horror as Stannis' fleet burned, etc). That being said, I do believe there was enough there for viewers to "get" his fear of fire.

Too bad the show has pretty much marginalized him, he's such an awesome character. I have no problem with them not appeasing the SanSan shippers, but I did want the song  :'(

anyway McCann is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIWX2fPx-5k

Was this scene supposed to happen in this episode? If so it would've made 10000000% more sense and explained how he was afraid of fire.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on May 29, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
Epic beard
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on May 29, 2012, 09:29:41 PM
I will certainly agree the Hound's backstory isn't prevalent in previous episodes, and in that episode they decided to hit viewers over the head with it multiple times before the battle (him being afraid of the torch, threatening the archers, watching in horror as Stannis' fleet burned, etc). That being said, I do believe there was enough there for viewers to "get" his fear of fire.

Too bad the show has pretty much marginalized him, he's such an awesome character. I have no problem with them not appeasing the SanSan shippers, but I did want the song  :'(

anyway McCann is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIWX2fPx-5k

Was this scene supposed to happen in this episode? If so it would've made 10000000% more sense and explained how he was afraid of fire.
It was supposed to be earlier this season and was directly lifted from the scene in the book.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 29, 2012, 09:30:37 PM
ya i read chapter summeries for the second book up until this final episode and apparently it's stated at one point by tyrion that he's deathly afraid of fire.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 29, 2012, 09:39:03 PM
EW released a partial list of confirmed (new) characters for S3. They pretty much calm the various fears of fans. I'll put the names/descriptions in spoiler tags, although there's nothing particularly egregious


spoiler (click to show/hide)
    Mance Rayder: We’ve heard about him all season. A former member of the Night’s Watch who became the "King Beyond The Wall," the leader of the Wildlings.

    Daario Naharis: A confident and seductive warrior.
    Jojen Reed; Meera Reed: A teenage brother and sister duo with special insights.
    Edmure Tully: A brash young member of the Tully family.
    Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish): Catelyn Stark’s uncle.
    Lady Selyse Florent: Stannis Baratheon’s wife.
    Shireen: Stannis’ daughter.
    Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns): Margaery Tyrell’s sharp-witted grandmother.
    Beric Dondarrion: A skilled knight who is the leader of the outlaw group Brotherhood Without Banners.
    Thoros of Myr: A red priest who follows the same religion as Melisandre.
    Tormund Giantsbane: A Wildling raider.
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http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/29/game-of-throne-season-3-cast/

I'm worried that another onslaught of characters is going to be hard for new folks to deal with. Some of the introductions were great this season (Stannis being a dick over the letter), others were poorly handled or rushed (Davos' story wasn't really told until episode eight).

Many of the new characters for S3 will be supporting roles/ but some will be big/important ones that will need some explaining.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 29, 2012, 11:51:57 PM
I don't think the audience is as dumb as they think the audience is.  If they wanted to put the Reeds in Bran's story, it would have been fine since there are like 4-5 named characters total in that arc and it's easy to tell them apart. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 30, 2012, 01:32:39 AM
:bow queen of thorns :bow2

Can't wait for her
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 30, 2012, 02:04:55 AM
:bow queen of thorns :bow2

Can't wait for her

It's most likely unrealistic but oh boy would I pay to see Maggie Smith get that role. She's basically the Queen Of Thornes on Downton Abbey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5_E1J_9hY
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Third on May 30, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
She would totally nail the role.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brawndolicious on May 30, 2012, 04:44:14 PM
that IS the problem that it happened to a unresolved problem all of a sudden, it is the definition of a deus ex

But this was all obvious to me and I haven't read the books.

The morning after Renly dies, Littlefinger is trying to get Margaery and Loras to flee. He convinces Loras by telling him that he will eventually get his vengeance. But he also asks Margaery if she still wants to be a queen. Her response was that she wants to be THE queen.

Later, we see Littlefinger and Tywin taking about an alliance with the Tyrells as they have the most fertile farmlands and so would be most anxious to end the war as soon as possible so that everybody can get home to harvest the crops before the winter comes.

In the last episode, you see Tywin make note of the fact that they will march immediately and all through the night so that they can get to King's Landing in time.

So it should be obvious to anyone what is going to happen. The Tyrells will fight with the Lannisters against Stannis and Margaery would be engaged to Joffrey.

Sansa is now just a hostage.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 03, 2012, 09:25:32 PM
season finale tonight noobs
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 03, 2012, 10:09:55 PM
fuuuuuuuuuck

white walkers hory sheet

wanted to see jon and ygritte do the nasty though :(
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 03, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
:rock DANY WAS SO METAL THIS EP
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 03, 2012, 10:13:38 PM
in before zephyr bitches about how the richest man in qarth dies is like, totally not how it was supposed to happen, feggits
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 03, 2012, 10:16:39 PM
i can't wait for next season. it's going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 03, 2012, 10:20:08 PM
book 3 spoiler/season 3 theory:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I don't really remember what happened to Theon in the books. I remember TAKE WINTERFELL > LOST WINTERFELL >>>>>>>>>>>>>> REEK

So I'm assuming that the Iron Born gave Theon to Ramsay and I HOPE we won't see from him again Reek is introduced.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 03, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
something i didn't like
related to spoilers for the books yadda yadda:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Littlefinger revealing his intentions in getting Sanda outta there. Or maybe i don't remember that from the book. The reveal that Littlefinger was the one who orchestrated having Dontos save Sansa. I hope they still go that route however. Pretty much have Dontos do everything and don't bring Littlefinger back into it until the scene on the boat.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 03, 2012, 10:57:34 PM
Methinks...

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Littlefinger talks to Sansa in this episode, then next season its all ser dontos.  not until the very end does LF come back into the forefront in regards to sansa
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 03, 2012, 11:15:14 PM
re: Jon's arc, book vs. tv show

(long winded and probably pointless):
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I know a lot of people are angry about the changes made. A lot of people wanted to see Jon and Qhorin run from the Wildings for several episodes only to get overwhelmed and then forced to fight each other. It's great in the book. However it's great in the book because there's a lot of time spent with it. You get multiple chapters I'm pretty sure that tells that story. Here we have 2-3 minutes, maybe twice an episode MAX to tell that story. And in doing that you also sacrifice setting up the Ygritte story. In the books the love affair between Ygritte and Jon is setup when she's taken by Jon well before he "joins" the wildings. Problem is you can't tell both stories in the time given. With both options, Ygritte's story is going to win out because she's the character that lasts longer. She's the character that pushes Jon to growing up and stop being naive. "You know nothing Jon Snow" is a memorable line because it gets to Jon that he DOESN'T know anything.

In the show they setup Jon "betraying" Qhorin just fine. When Jon kills Qhorin you can see he's both angry and shocked he did it. It's after Qhorin is killed that Jon realizes what has just happened and understands what he must do. It tells the same story in less time. The ONLY real complain I have is that Ghost never shows up.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 12:46:26 AM
Was entertaining but totally shit on the book like most of the stuff this season.

Cutting the entire House of the Undying out of the story was PRETTY FUCKING SHITTY :(  So much cool stuff happens there.  Goddamnit.  Dany's story sucks ass in the TV version.  Jon's is pretty crap in the TV version too.  The rest of the stuff is changed but fine.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 04, 2012, 01:03:43 AM
Jesus fucking christ was there a storyline they didn't fucking butcher this season? extremely disappointed by the finale and the entire season.

Also The Others don't come out during the daylight noobs.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2012, 01:08:01 AM
PREPARE YOURSELVES, THE BITCHING IS COMING
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 01:10:56 AM
That's because this season fucking sucked (outside of Blackwater)

I honestly can't imagine how anyone could have made a worse TV adaptation of this book. 



/was still entertaining
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 01:12:24 AM
And TV only viewers can't go defensive style because they don't know what they missed with House of the Undying.  It was like BLACKWATER.  A major major amazing scenario that was the climax of Dany's story and none of it made it into the tv version.  It also kind of fucks up her stories for the next season since she is reflecting on things she learned during that scenario which now does not exist in the TV version.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 04, 2012, 01:12:50 AM
I knew it
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2012, 01:14:16 AM
They are going to spend two seasons on book 3. I bet all of your complains will be rectified in seasons 3 and 4.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 01:14:24 AM
I knew it

People get so defensive about media they enjoy.

Just looking at it objectively, this season is FILLED with plot holes because these writers suck and wrote themselves into all kinds of messes that didn't exist in the books. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2012, 01:14:59 AM
Orrrrr...it's the second season of a long running series.  If you wanna talk about plot holes and stuff, bring that up in seasons 4 or 5. Season 2? LOL
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 04, 2012, 01:19:55 AM
How can any book reader defend this shit is beyond me.

Couldn't they just put a wig of the coffee boy and give him a harp? shit I think they haven't even mentioned Rhaegar since the first episode, smh.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 04, 2012, 01:22:06 AM
They are going to spend two seasons on book 3. I bet all of your complains will be rectified in seasons 3 and 4.

It won't the shit they did this season already ruined a bunch of plot points from the third book, I suspect we are gonna have even more "new" scenes and of course some more Ros because they can't let the audience forget that LF is an asshole.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 01:30:10 AM
How can any book reader defend this shit is beyond me.

Couldn't they just put a wig of the coffee boy and give him a harp? shit I think they haven't even mentioned Rhaegar since the first episode, smh.

My view is that most book readers who defend the changes read the books a decade ago, only have a vague recollection of the story, and are fine with the TV series since it seems good enough and is entertaining.

Since I just read CoK for the first time like 8 months ago, it's very, very fresh in my mind and I notice every singe change and all the bad changes (there are some fine changes) stick out like a sore thumb.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 04, 2012, 02:15:36 AM
in before zephyr bitches about how the richest man in qarth dies is like, totally not how it was supposed to happen, feggits
It was my favorite episode of the series, you fuckwad.

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on June 04, 2012, 02:27:33 AM
I really enjoyed this season.  I thought the season finale was kinda meh, but I still enjoyed it overall.  I'm still on book five, so I don't know how all of it ties together so far, but I think they're doing just fine. 

Honestly, you guys wouldn't be as interested in the show if EVERY DETAIL played itself out on the show as it did in the books. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 04, 2012, 02:33:03 AM
I really enjoyed this season.  I thought the season finale was kinda meh, but I still enjoyed it overall.  I'm still on book five, so I don't know how all of it ties together so far, but I think they're doing just fine. 

Honestly, you guys wouldn't be as interested in the show if EVERY DETAIL played itself out on the show as it did in the books.
I would if they had kept already amazing scenes in, but I'm okay with the changes they made this episode.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 02:35:30 AM
It doesn't need EVERY DETAIL.

People aren't pissed because it didn't contain all 1000 pages in 10eps.  People are pissed because they do things like cut Arya's entire storyline which was the longest character plot in the entire book 2!  It's when they cut major subplots that were kind of good or important that it's really annoying. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2012, 03:07:15 AM
Eh, I'll have to watch it again. It started strong and just got ridiculous. Didn't like the Others, House Of the Undying, Jon's stuff (outside of the final shot). Nearly every arc felt like it reached an anticlimatic ending.

Everything in King's Landing continues to be strong, even the Ros stuff thanks to Varys. Maybe Varys is sending her to Dany after all
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on June 04, 2012, 03:50:45 AM
PREPARE YOURSELVES, THE BITCHING IS COMING

:rofl
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 04, 2012, 03:51:14 AM
It doesn't need EVERY DETAIL.

People aren't pissed because it didn't contain all 1000 pages in 10eps.  People are pissed because they do things like cut Arya's entire storyline which was the longest character plot in the entire book 2!  It's when they cut major subplots that were kind of good or important that it's really annoying.
The biggest fuckup this season was Littlefinger. Wow, they did not know what to do with him at all. Just botched, all over.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 04, 2012, 05:26:16 AM


Just looking at it objectively, this season is FILLED with plot holes because these writers suck and wrote themselves into all kinds of messes that didn't exist in the books.

you're going to need to back this up. what plot holes?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on June 04, 2012, 05:28:51 AM
wait so at the end of the last episode the hound and sansa are running off together

and now sansa's just chilling in the royal court?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Vizzys on June 04, 2012, 05:30:31 AM
lol wut
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 04, 2012, 05:34:57 AM
wait so at the end of the last episode the hound and sansa are running off together

and now sansa's just chilling in the royal court?

you should probably re-watch that episode.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 04, 2012, 06:17:24 AM
How can any book reader defend this shit is beyond me.

Couldn't they just put a wig of the coffee boy and give him a harp? shit I think they haven't even mentioned Rhaegar since the first episode, smh.

My view is that most book readers who defend the changes read the books a decade ago, only have a vague recollection of the story, and are fine with the TV series since it seems good enough and is entertaining.

Since I just read CoK for the first time like 8 months ago, it's very, very fresh in my mind and I notice every singe change and all the bad changes (there are some fine changes) stick out like a sore thumb.

Ooooooor you're someone who simultaneously has worked at adapting written works to film/tv before and doesn't put the books on a pedestal like a fucking fucktard of fuckery because (and I know this is gonna shock you bitches) THEY'RE NOT THAT FUCKING GOOD FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK.

WWWAAAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAH, THE PROPERTY I REALLY ENJOYED THAT WAS LIKELY NEVER TO GET A TV/FILM TREATMENT GOT ONE AND THEY'RE NOT CATERING TO MY UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE WITH AN ADAPTATION OF WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY PULP LIT SO I'M GONNA GO CRY ON THE INTERNETS ABOUT IT

You people all need to go eat fucking shotguns.  Happy Monday!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: etiolate on June 04, 2012, 06:21:36 AM
wait so at the end of the last episode the hound and sansa are running off together

and now sansa's just chilling in the royal court?

you should probably re-watch that episode.

The previous episode?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2012, 07:35:08 AM
Dude, she flat out told him no.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2012, 07:40:56 AM
LOOK. WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE SERIES UNTIL SEASON 4/5. NOT ALL ADAPTATIONS ARE STRAIGHT ADAPTATIONS. JUST ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS NOW, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP. YOU ARE BITCHING ABOUT SEASON FUCKING 2 OF A SUPPOSEDLY 6-8 SEASON TELEVISION SERIES YOU FUCKING STUPID FUCKS.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2012, 07:43:59 AM
IF YOU HAVE ALREADY READ GOT AND WATCHED GOT'S FIRST SEASON, YOU WOULD ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY DO CERTAIN THINGS IN A SPECIFIC ORDER. IN THE BOOK, ARYA AND MICAH ARE PLAYING AT SWORDS AT THE TRIDENT. IN THE SHOW, ARYA AND MICAH ARE PLAYING AT SWORDS IN WINTERFELL. IN THE SHOW, THEY DON'T EVEN EXPLAIN THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TRIDENT OR WHO THE BLOODY FUCK RHAEGAR TARGARYEN IS. THIS IS CLEARLY DUE TO PACING. YOU CANNOT FIT EVERY SINGLE DETAIL IN A 60 MINUTE TELEVISION SHOW, HOWEVER, IF YOU STRETCH THE SERIES, YOU CAN EVENTUALLY FIT SHIT INTO THE NARRATIVE AT DIFFERENT TIMES/LOCATIONS WITH DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS THAT TELL THE SAME FUCKING STORY BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

FUCK.

IF YOU WANT MINUTIAE DETAILS, READ THE BOOK. THAT IS WHAT BOOKS ARE FOR.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on June 04, 2012, 08:13:40 AM
Stop using all-caps. That's atrocious.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 04, 2012, 10:42:50 AM
"Books are hard to adapt so we should just be happy with these mediocre results" FUCK OFF DEFENDERS!!! GO FUCKING WATCH THE WALKING DEAD IT'S PROBLABLY RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY! 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Robo on June 04, 2012, 10:48:15 AM
this thread  :rofl
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 04, 2012, 11:07:16 AM
most of the complaints I've seen are just "it's not like the book therefore it's bad" but no effort is made to explain why it's bad other than "because it's not what was in the book"

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 04, 2012, 11:45:03 AM
Jon is a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow in the show and his storyline was butchered.

Arya an Twyinn scenes made no sense and her storyline in the show was terrible.

Danny lol.

Robb lol.

Asha was fugly and boring.

Direwolves are practically no existent.

Cat released the Kingslayer just because.

Ros.

An Other just ignoring Sam wtf!

The richest man of Qarth.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Steve Youngblood on June 04, 2012, 12:23:23 PM
Jon is a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow in the show and his storyline was butchered.

Arya an Twyinn scenes made no sense and her storyline in the show was terrible.

Danny lol.

Robb lol.

Asha was fugly and boring.

Direwolves are practically no existent.

Cat released the Kingslayer just because.

Ros.

An Other just ignoring Sam wtf!

The richest man of Qarth.

Is any of this supposed to mean anything if you haven't read the books/aren't demanding a completely, 100% faithful adaptation?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 04, 2012, 02:05:03 PM
Show defenders seem to be on a whole different level of fucking distinguished mentally-challenged, it seems. Thankfully, the books really are that good.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 04, 2012, 02:20:57 PM
Show defenders seem to be on a whole different level of fucking distinguished mentally-challenged, it seems. Thankfully, two books really are that good.

fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 04, 2012, 02:50:50 PM
i dont know this is how it happens in the book
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Daenerys stands before the House of the Undying, which appears no more than a ruin. Drogon is on her shoulder. Most of those with her, Ser Jorah, Jhogo, Aggo, and Xaro, tell her she should turn back, but she will not. Pyat Pree comes up to take her to the building. As they near the entrance, Pyat gives her some instructions. She must always take the door to her right, and if she comes to any stairs she must go up. She will see visions of the past and future as she climbs, and those that would speak to her from other rooms, but she must keep her path until she reaches the Undying themselves. At the door, a dwarf gives her a glass of shade of the evening to prepare her for the truths within. She enters with Drogon. As she goes through room after room, she begins to see visions through some of the open doors on her left. In one, a woman is being worked over by four men with rat-like faces. In another, she sees a room full of slaughtered corpses at a banquet, with a king with the head of a wolf on a throne.1 In the next room, Ser Willem beckons her to the house with the red door. Another door near the end of the hall reveals an old man with dark eyes and long, silver-grey hair on a barbed throne proclaiming to a man at the foot: "Let him be king over charred bones and cooked meat. Let him be the king of ashes."2 After several more doors, she sees a man that looks like Viserys, but taller and with eyes of a darker purple.3 He turns to a woman nursing a babe and names the child Aegon. The woman asks if he will write a song, and the man replies that "He has a song. He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire." He turns to Daenerys then, and almost seems to see her before adding "There must be one more; the dragon has three heads."4

At the end of the hall, Daenerys finds no door on her right and sees the torches going out behind her. She suddenly realizes that the last door on the left is also the first door on the right, and she steps through. After several more rooms, an apparition disguised as Pyat tries to lure her left, but she is not fooled. At the top of a staircase, she opens a door and sees a beautiful room full of people with perfect features. One of them says they are the Undying and bids her to enter. Drogon recoils, and Daenerys realizes there is actually a small door to the right. She flees and enters this one instead. She enters a gloomy room dominated by a long stone table above which floats a human heart, blue and corrupt. A voice hails her as mother of dragons. She can make out the Undying at the table. They are old, wizened, and blue. They appear dead, but just as she thinks that, the voice calls again and says they live. They call her "child of three" and give several foretellings based on that theme. They say she will light three fires: "one for life and one for death and one to love."5 They say she will ride three mounts: "one to bed and one to dread and one to love."6 Finally, they say that she will know three treasons: "once for blood and once for gold and once for love."7 Next, a series of visions come to her faster and faster: Viserys covered in molten gold, her stillborn son Rhaego as a man with a burning city behind him, Rhaegar dying on the Trident, Stannis holding aloft a flaming sword but casting no shadow, a cloth dragon swaying on poles amidst a cheering crowd, a great stone beast taking wing from a smoking tower, Silver riding towards a stream beneath a sea of stars, a corpse with bright eyes and gray lips smiling sadly on the prow of a ship, a blue flower growing in a chink of ice,8 Mirri Maz Duur performing her shadow magic, a young Daenerys outside the house with the red door, Mirri Maz Duur dying as Daenerys's dragons hatch, a bloody corpse naked bound and dragged behind Silver, a white lion running through grass taller than a man,9 a line of naked crones coming out of a great lake and kneeling before her,10 ten thousand slaves reaching out to touch her and crying "mother" as she rides past.11 Suddenly, Daenerys realizes that the Undying are all around her touching, clawing, and biting. She cannot move. Drogon belches forth flame and soon the whole room is ablaze. Daenerys runs out of the room and down a long hallway which finally ends in a door leading outside. Pyat Pree is there gibbering in a strange tongue. He lunges with a knife, but Drogon flies at his face. Jhogo and Rakharo subdue him as Ser Jorah comes to Daenerys's aid.
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that sounds alot better and make more sense than what actually happened in teh show.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2012, 02:53:33 PM
I'm not a book purist so I won't waste anyone's time with a long bitch list. I'd just ask two questions: were Arya or Jon's arcs in the show better than they were in the book? And I'd rest my case. The show pretty much ruined perhaps the best POV segment in the series (Arya's in ACOK) for no reason I can comprehend. A few changes were budget issues and I'm fine with that, but I'm talking about specific narrative and character changes that have nothing to do with money or time.

On The House Of the Undying: the visual medium is quite different from the written one, and some things that work in books may not work in films (and vise versa); that segment is one of them. A strict adaptation of that scene might have spoiled some things because the imagery/visions might be too heavy handed. That being said, I am bummed that they didn't try to add even a hint of subtlety for new viewers to ponder over. For instance, what if Dany walked up to the Iron Throne and saw [this doesn't happen in the book, but I'll spoiler tag it anyway just in case]:
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an infant wrapped in black cloth.
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Lost was popular in part because fans were able to debate theories and nonsense for years. It kind of sucks new viewers can't have their own community where they ponder theories, prophesies, etc.


Oh well. S1 and S2 featured a lot of shovel work, lots of building and plotting (and people talking about what they were going to do). S3 will feature some of that, but overall the pace should be significantly faster. The Night's Watch won't be wandering around for a couple episodes with nothing to do - they're about to get attacked, as everyone saw in the finale. Tyrion has awakened to a dangerous new world. Bran is on the run for his life. Theon...yeah. Dany started this season as a naive girl and ended as a warrior queen, which carries into next season. Etc. There will be a ton of new characters, but I'd imagine every nearly every episode will be eventful.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 04, 2012, 02:57:36 PM
it felt like there was a episode misisng here becuase the way it ended it didn't really feel like a finale. breanne and kingslayer walk down a road. the hound disappears. sansa goes around the corner after she gets dumped. master luwin dies . nothing happened rly
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2012, 03:06:32 PM
it felt like there was a episode misisng here becuase the way it ended it didn't really feel like a finale. breanne and kingslayer walk down a road. the hound disappears. sansa goes around the corner after she gets dumped. master luwin dies . nothing happened rly

Question specifically for you, since you read the HOTU segment:
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(I'll preface by saying the vision doesn't specifically say she saw Stannis, just a king with blue eyes who cast no shadow, waving a bright red sword. Most people believe it's Stannis)

In terms of the specific visions of events she sees, what do you think? Some might not make much impact on you because they discuss characters who haven't been discussed much in the show.

While I would have nixed the visions for the show as well, I do think Dany should have been told of the three mounts, three betrayals, and three lies. At least that would give new viewers something to think about
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 04, 2012, 03:17:36 PM
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ya the three mounts three lies stuff would've added alot and set up the show, I thought the visions in the show was kinda lame especially when it was just Drogo. they really shouldve got Aegon etc in there. i dont feel like anything in the shows version set up anything just a "heres a dream where what wouldve happened if everytrhing went right"
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 04, 2012, 03:25:41 PM
this is what i think one by one:

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In one, a woman is being worked over by four men with rat-like faces. In another, she sees a room full of slaughtered corpses at a banquet, with a king with the head of a wolf on a throne.1 In the next room, Ser Willem beckons her to the house with the red door. Another door near the end of the hall reveals an old man with dark eyes and long, silver-grey hair on a barbed throne proclaiming to a man at the foot: "Let him be king over charred bones and cooked meat. Let him be the king of ashes."2 After several more doors, she sees a man that looks like Viserys, but taller and with eyes of a darker purple.3 He turns to a woman nursing a babe and names the child Aegon. The woman asks if he will write a song, and the man replies that "He has a song. He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire." He turns to Daenerys then, and almost seems to see her before adding "There must be one more; the dragon has three heads."4

1. Women with rat like faces not sure. some rape maybe dunno
2. room full of  slaughtered corpses at banquet with head of a wolf on a throne maybe stannis on the throne in winterfell or something? i can see how if they showed too much of this one it'd spoil it
3. Not sure about king of ashes stuff
4. Viserys vision I guess was the birth of Aegon but he's barely been talked about in the show


. She flees and enters this one instead. She enters a gloomy room dominated by a long stone table above which floats a human heart, blue and corrupt. A voice hails her as mother of dragons. She can make out the Undying at the table. They are old, wizened, and blue. They appear dead, but just as she thinks that, the voice calls again and says they live. They call her "child of three" and give several foretellings based on that theme. They say she will light three fires: "one for life and one for death and one to love."5 They say she will ride three mounts: "one to bed and one to dread and one to love."6 Finally, they say that she will know three treasons: "once for blood and once for gold and once for love."

1. three fires one is drogo pyre the other two i dunno maybe when she burns westeros with the dragons for death and maybe at one point she has to kill jorah
2. three mounts, one is drogo, one to dread did she ever have to fuk her brother i forget his name
3. three treasons one would be the blood magic to keep drogo alive?
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youre right tho even that last part would've made the scene 100% more interesting and encourage theories
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2012, 03:36:51 PM
Exactly, just that part would have worked. I'm fine with leaving the more specific visions out, but Dany is given some important information that new viewers would have appreciated.

One specific thing about your comment (no worries, nothing spoilery for you):
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The person she sees as an older Viserys is Rhaegar, her older brother. He's playing a sad song with his harp, and tells the woman cradling their baby that he is the Prince That Was Promised, but there must be another. The show hasn't discussed Rhaegar at all, which I find baffling. S1 would have been the perfect time to talk about him, and that alone would have generated some interesting discussions among non-book readers. Interestingly in the book, Rhaegar is considered as quite honorable and mythic by everyone except Robert.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 04, 2012, 03:45:13 PM
I think i would've liked Jorah coming in and saving her instead of a warlock being killed by fire by baby dragons.

also
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why didn't they have ser barristan like they did in teh books
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2012, 03:46:45 PM
You know where he's heading? I'd suggest some caution, it's easy to stumble across big spoilers while looking for little stuff

That character will be back next season
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 04, 2012, 03:51:03 PM
I just read a spoiler i guess about what he does in book two was expecting it to happen this episode oh well. will start reading book 3 soon. guessing we won't see the show back until next spring :(
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2012, 03:53:05 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52s3x5tVv1r9onvzo2_r1_250.gif) (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52s3x5tVv1r9onvzo1_250.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52s3x5tVv1r9onvzo3_250.gif) (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52s3x5tVv1r9onvzo4_r1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 04, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Show defenders seem to be on a whole different level of fucking distinguished mentally-challenged, it seems. Thankfully, two books really are that good.

fixed that for you.
No, you fixed nothing -- they all are.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 04, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
CoK, FFC, and DWD are all middling to unbearable.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 04, 2012, 08:39:18 PM
Show defenders seem to be on a whole different level of fucking distinguished mentally-challenged, it seems. Thankfully, two books really are that good.

fixed that for you.
No, you fixed nothing -- they all are.

You're stupid and have bad taste, and everyday that goes by that I can't put you on ignore I die a little bit inside.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 08:58:15 PM
CoK, FFC, and DWD are all middling to unbearable.

Clash of Kings was better than Game of Thrones though?  Heck, I think it's better written than a good chunk of Storm of Swords (though SoS has more major events for people who want more stuff happening). 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 04, 2012, 09:47:50 PM
Storm of Swords is my favorite because of the events that you know of, and I think the tension built between all the shit that goes down is very interesting.  Bran's chapters were the only ones I was meh on.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 04, 2012, 09:58:20 PM
For me, ASOS > ACOK > AGOT.  Felt that it kept getting better as it went along.  My main criticism of ASOS and why I don't "love" it, is that it feels really rushed in the last 400 or so pages.  I like how ACOK had some room to breathe and really develop the characters with lots of great dialogues and internal monologues.  My only complaint about ACOK is that Arya's story is like 35-40% of the pages, and while it's a good tale, it's very long winded.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 04, 2012, 11:40:26 PM
Clash is amazing BN is wrong as usual.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 05, 2012, 12:45:58 AM
Quote
Season two finale tops 4mil viewers, sets new series high

After weeks of hovering just under the 4 million viewers mark for the initial airing, Game of Thrones finally broke through in a big way. James Hibberd reports that last night’s season finale attracted 4.2 million viewers for the initial airing and 5.1 million total!

In related news, Hibberd also reported last night that showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have signed on for two more seasons, meaning they are under contract up through season four, provided HBO orders a season four (which, at this point, they would be crazy not to do).

Winter Is Coming: Nice! Looks like that dip last week was simply due to the holiday and not any indication of a downward trend. Cannot wait to see what the numbers look like for the season three premiere.
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/06/season-two-finale-tops-4mil-viewers-sets-new-series-high/

Total views among all platforms per week is currently at 10.4 million, making GoT the third most popular HBO show in its history (behind True Blood and The Sopranos).

I don't expect the show to surpass True Blood simply because it doesn't have a firm enough pull on the female demographic like that show has. From what I understand, True Blood's ratings among women went through the roof in S2 due to the addition of a popular character who turned into a major draw among females. Thrones doesn't really have that, and S3 most likely won't either.

Although hopefully my man crush Oded Fehr gets a role as the boss of bosses, Oberyn Martell (The Viper)
(http://tinyurl.com/c468hcj)
:bow

Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 05, 2012, 01:54:58 AM
CoK, FFC, and DWD are all middling to unbearable.
Not even close. CoK is probably the weakest of the three, but AFFC and ADWD have fantastic prose and set up a lot of great things to come.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on June 05, 2012, 01:56:31 AM
Not going to lie, really didnt like that final ep, it was all over the damn place
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 05, 2012, 01:57:20 AM
>>fantastic prose
>>AFFC

yep, we're done here.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 05, 2012, 03:17:11 AM
>>fantastic prose
>>AFFC

yep, we're done here.

Yeah, he's obviously trolling.  Or was thrown into walls head first as a newborn, one of the two.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 05, 2012, 04:00:38 AM
>>fantastic prose
>>AFFC

yep, we're done here.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
"Is a broken man an outlaw?

There are many sorts of outlaws, just as there are many sorts of birds. A sandpiper and a sea eagle both have wings, but they are not the same. The singers love to sing of good men forced to go outside the law to fight some wicked lord, but most outlaws are more like this ravening Hound than they are the lightning lord. They are evil men, driven by greed, soured by malice, despising the gods and caring only for themselves.

Broken men are more deserving of our pity, though they may be just as dangerous. Almost all are common-born, simple folk who had never been more than a mile from the house where they were born until the day some lord came round to take them off to war. Poorly shod and poorly clad, they march away beneath his banners, ofttimes with no better arms than a sickle or a sharpened hoe, or a maul they made themselves by lashing a stone to a stick with strips of hide. Brothers march with brothers, sons with fathers, friends with friends. They’ve heard the songs and stories, so they go off with eager hearts, dreaming of the wonders they will see, of the wealth and glory they will win. War seems a fine adventure, the greatest most of them will ever know.


Then they get a taste of battle.


For some, that one taste is enough to break them. Others go on for years, until they lose count of all the battles they have fought in, but even a man who has survived a hundred fights can break in his hundred-and-first. Brothers watch their brothers die, fathers lose their sons, friends see their friends trying to hold their entrails in after they’ve been gutted by an axe.


They see the lord who led them there cut down, and some other lord shouts that they are his now. They take a wound, and when that’s still half-healed they take another. There is never enough to eat, their shoes fall to pieces from the marching, their clothes are torn and rotting, and half of them are shitting in their breeches from drinking bad water.

If they want new boots or a warmer cloak or maybe a rusted iron halfhelm, they need to take them from a corpse, and before long they are stealing from the living too, from the smallfolk whose lands they’re fighting in, men very like the men they used to be. They slaughter their sheep and steal their chickens, and from there it’s just a short step to carrying off their daughters too. And one day they look around and realize all their friends and kin are gone, that they are fighting beside strangers beneath a banner that they hardly recognize.

They don’t know where they are or how to get back home and the lord they’re fighting for does not know their names, yet here he comes, shouting for them to form up, to make a line with their spears and scythes and sharpened hoes, to stand their ground. And the knights come down on them, faceless men clad all in steel, and the iron thunder of their charge seems to fill the world …


And the man breaks."

-Septon Meribald
[close]

I'm sorry, what were you saying? I was too busy watching your argument be fucking annihilated.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 05, 2012, 04:28:23 AM
I see no point in letting yourself be trolled. AFFC is the best written book in the series but it's not hard to see why most non fans and some fans didn't like it. I love it, and haven't heard a good argument against it. Can we discuss the show now?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 05, 2012, 07:31:43 AM
Feast and Dance are amazing, BN and Old Man must have the taste of a distinguished mentally-challenged monkey if they thing the shit we saw this season was better than those books.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 05, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
Feast and Dance are amazing, BN and Old Man must have the taste of a distinguished mentally-challenged monkey if they thing the shit we saw this season was better than those books.

This is what happens when you drink the water in 3rd world countries, people.  Your literary taste goes straight to hell.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 05, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
http://io9.com/5915744/10-best-changes-game-of-thrones-made-to-a-clash-of-kings

 :yuck :yuck :yuck :-X
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 05, 2012, 04:03:48 PM
Feast and Dance are amazing, BN and Old Man must have the taste of a distinguished mentally-challenged monkey if they thing the shit we saw this season was better than those books.

This is what happens when you drink the water in 3rd world countries, people.  Your literary taste goes straight to hell.
Stop drinking their water, then.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Bebpo on June 05, 2012, 04:16:34 PM
I am enjoying AFFC fwiw
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 05, 2012, 06:05:44 PM
I am enjoying AFFC fwiw

The prosecution rests.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 05, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
I am enjoying AFFC fwiw
Good to hear, it's a good book.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 05, 2012, 08:52:16 PM
http://io9.com/5915744/10-best-changes-game-of-thrones-made-to-a-clash-of-kings

 :yuck :yuck :yuck :-X

The Theon changes were certainly good. I agree with that part of the list.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on June 05, 2012, 11:44:26 PM
Some was good, some was not it was the stronger plotline of the season but not nearly as good as in the book.

Alfie deserve the nominations not peter.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 05, 2012, 11:50:09 PM
Alfie suffers from having a bit of a ridiculous face lol, but he did a great job this season. Whereas Dinklage kind of dropped the ball with the two emotional scenes he got
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on June 06, 2012, 12:08:18 AM
Huh? He absolutely nailed his last scene of the season with Shae. Absolutely. Nailed it.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 06, 2012, 01:05:31 AM
Shit, I agree with zephyrfate about something.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 06, 2012, 02:41:46 AM
Eh you're right, perhaps my opinion is being clouded by Shae being there. Still, it didn't strike me as amazing. And of course the "I would kill for you" scene a few episodes ago was weak.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 06, 2012, 06:59:14 AM
Eh you're right, perhaps my opinion is being clouded by Shae being there. Still, it didn't strike me as amazing. And of course the "I would kill for you" scene a few episodes ago was weak.

Pretty much anything Tyrion related that has had him playing the game this season was top notch, though.  Are you forgetting the episode where he played Varys, Littlefinger and Pycelle to find Cersei's mole?  Any of his interactions with Cersei were really good too. 

In fact, Lena whatshername seems to be finding Cersei's character more and more- been progressively impressed with her this season.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 06, 2012, 01:21:50 PM
I'm not saying he wasn't impressive, just that he seems one note-ish. Of course he excells at scenes where he plays the game; the performance is quite focused in swagger, wit, etc. But he isn't given much emotional stuff to work wit, and he was disappointing in his first emotional scene of the season

I forgot to mention he was great during the battle speech. You could see him convincing himself of what he was going to do, then convincing the soldiers slowly; it was just a perfect scene of emotion

You're right about Headley, she improved a lot. I think part of it is that she's very comfortable with Dinklage, and she also had been given some interesting material this season
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on June 06, 2012, 01:47:32 PM
Agreed that Alfie deserves the awards for his work this year. Dinklage was great, but I kind of agree with PD in that he was one note, but that's not Dinklage's fault, but the writing itself. Tyrion would usually appear for like 30 seconds to a minute in most episodes, and he'd be using the same snark he had the last time we had him. Which, while great, didn't really show us the range we know Dinklage is capable of. That said, he was great in his final scene of the season AND the during speech and entire set of battles at Black Gate.

Cersei stepped up her acting chops.

Arya stepped up her acting.

But I think Theon was the standout.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on June 06, 2012, 05:06:14 PM
You're right, Theon's another standout. The actor playing him has really managed to sell the character.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 13, 2012, 06:25:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpSDSgChsaI

Natalalie Emmanuel hnnngg

Reeds are in, nerds can stop suiciding
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 13, 2012, 06:29:13 PM
Hey it's Gareth from The Office...he looks like shit now
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on July 13, 2012, 06:57:25 PM
The actors they got for Jojen and Thoros are spot on.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Verdigris Murder on July 13, 2012, 07:46:22 PM
Hey it's Gareth from The Office...he looks like shit now
I thought pot noodle and a wank too.

I'd copy and paste my intense feelings of GRRM, but fans, it's a simple click on my name and bathe in the soft waterfall of conciousness. And so much better than Vengenace, oh my god.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 13, 2012, 09:10:22 PM
holy shit Kristofer Hivju is going to play Tormund Giantsbane  :o :o :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY1xOKuSYl8
(first guy)

wow he looks perfect
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on July 14, 2012, 04:27:36 AM
It's not better than Vengeance.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Verdigris Murder on July 14, 2012, 06:35:04 AM
Coming from anyone else I'd argue bias, but not you ZephyrFate.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on July 14, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpSDSgChsaI

Natalalie Emmanuel hnnngg

Reeds are in, nerds can stop suiciding

During that old The Avengers show, I always wanted to see Ms. Peel nekkid.
(http://i.imgur.com/8DpmD.jpg)

Note to show-runners: I no longer need to see Diana Rigg nekkid. KEEP HER CLOTHES ON, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 14, 2012, 01:22:11 PM
Rest of casting news, including Tobias Menzies (Brutus from Rome) as Edmure Tully
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/07/season-three-casting-announced/#more-19314

Mance Rayder hasn't been cast yet. Can't wait to see who gets the role. Hopefully someone from Rome as well
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 15, 2012, 12:35:45 PM
Rest of casting news, including Tobias Menzies (Brutus from Rome) as Edmure Tully
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/07/season-three-casting-announced/#more-19314

Mance Rayder hasn't been cast yet. Can't wait to see who gets the role. Hopefully someone from Rome as well

Tobias Menzies, oh man he was fantastic in Rome. The only thing that saddens me about this series is that there are so many characters that we can't really spend a good amount of time with certain characters (especially auxiliary ones like Edmure).
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Momo on July 15, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
Brutus always made me laugh in Rome, it just seemed like he was always involved in some cowardly scheme :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 15, 2012, 01:16:39 PM
Rest of casting news, including Tobias Menzies (Brutus from Rome) as Edmure Tully
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/07/season-three-casting-announced/#more-19314

Mance Rayder hasn't been cast yet. Can't wait to see who gets the role. Hopefully someone from Rome as well

Tobias Menzies, oh man he was fantastic in Rome. The only thing that saddens me about this series is that there are so many characters that we can't really spend a good amount of time with certain characters (especially auxiliary ones like Edmure).

Agreed. While this season will introduce more appealing characters - at least from the perspective of new fans - they're likely to not get enough scenes given the time constraints. Which makes me even more upset that Ros is still getting 15-20m a season that could have been spent elsewhere...

Stannis and Davos are two of my favorite characters, but I think many new fans weren't particularly into them or invested in their story. Whereas I think new fans will likely dig the Reeds, the Queen of Thrones, Torrhen Giantsbane etc.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 23, 2012, 09:10:28 PM
Oh snaps, someone got to watch three hours of filming and has leaked the info lmao; guess she won't be invited back. Anyway, some ADWD spoilers here and a confirmation that Iwan Rheon (from Misfits) has been cast as Ramsay Snow

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/70576565.html
 :o

Time is certainly a problem given the 10 ep limit, but moving that arc up makes a whole lot of sense
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on August 17, 2012, 12:53:01 PM
http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Ciaran_Hinds_is_Mance_Rayder/
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on August 17, 2012, 12:58:48 PM
I approve.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on August 17, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Great actor, but much older and less dynamic than I pictured Mance.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 17, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
Eh, I guess they're changing the role. I figured they'd age him up, but not this much. Oh well, he's obviously a great actor. I guess they'll be portraying him in a more kingly, fatherly fashion than the Mance in the books who seems more like a charismatic warrior prince.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on August 17, 2012, 01:29:28 PM
Can't wait to hear him sing The Dornishman's wife :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on August 25, 2012, 10:46:24 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m94n1516o31r54bhuo1_1280.png)

Nice puppies Arya :drool?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on August 25, 2012, 10:49:05 PM
um

isn't she underaged

um

i got a boner

um

am i going to jail
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on August 25, 2012, 10:50:03 PM
Don't worry, doe tits are not underage.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brawndolicious on August 26, 2012, 01:04:38 AM
Well she's 15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maisie_Williams) and the Dominican Republic has the age of consent at 18 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Dominican_Republic).
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on August 26, 2012, 10:21:32 AM
lol he thinks we respect our laws over here :rofl
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2012, 08:59:01 PM
WHO IS PLAYING THE QUEEN OF THORNS IN SEASON 3 BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY BE MAGGIE SMITH
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 29, 2012, 09:03:03 PM
WHO IS PLAYING THE QUEEN OF THORNS IN SEASON 3 BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY BE MAGGIE SMITH

Diana Rigg, from your favorite Bond movie

(http://tinyurl.com/8u6u2pw)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2012, 09:04:49 PM
Oh my god that's good enough.

If that scene doesn't have the fool dancing and singing I will rage, because it's [the chapter where she's introduced in the Sansa POV] easily the most hilarious chapter in the series.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on September 29, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
A bear there was, a bear, a bear!
All black and brown, and covered with hair!
The bear! The bear!
Oh, come, they said, oh come to the fair!
The fair? Said he, but I'm a bear!
All black, and brown, and covered with hair!

And Down the road from here to there.
From here! To There!
Three boys, a goat, and a dancing bear!
[He] danced and spun, all the way to the Fair!
The Fair! The Fair!

Oh, sweet she was, and pure, and fair!
The maid with honey in her hair!
Her hair! Her hair!
The maid with honey in her hair!

[The bear,] smelled the scent on the summer air.
The bear! The bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair.
He smelled the scent on the summer air!
He sniffed and roared and smelled it there!
Honey on the summer air!

Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!
A bear! A bear!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!
He lifted her high into the air!
The bear! The bear!

I called for a knight, but you're a bear!
A bear! A bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair!
She kicked and wailed, the maid so fair,
But he licked the honey from her hair,
Her hair! Her hair!

Then she sighed and squealed and kicked the air!
My bear! She sang. My bear so fair!
And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 08, 2012, 12:19:04 PM
Set photo SPOILER from ASOS. You've been warned

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4lg2hqCUAADBYL.jpg:large
[close]
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on October 08, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
Niiiiiice.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 08, 2012, 01:49:36 PM
Set photo SPOILER from ASOS. You've been warned

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4lg2hqCUAADBYL.jpg:large
[close]

at first i didn't see it THEN I SAW IT
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on October 08, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Who cares about that? any set photos of ROS?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on October 08, 2012, 10:54:47 PM
I don't see it.  Somebody spoiler the answer so I can be a part of the in-crowd.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 08, 2012, 11:01:38 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
his hand/arm is mutilated.  the biggest thing to happen to jaime in the books -- it sparks a character shift and makes him much more complex and conflicted.
[close]
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 18, 2012, 10:25:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsmUpYIA99o

voice of Selyse Baratheon, Stannis' wife
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 02, 2012, 09:12:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yj0e0r_yLI
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 02, 2012, 10:07:50 PM
New characters I spotted:

Ramsey
The Reeds
Edmure
The Lighting Lord
Mance
Thoros
Queen of Thorns
Blackfish
Tormund Giantsbane
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2012, 10:11:48 PM
Still no Rhaegar? ???
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2012, 10:15:38 PM
New characters I spotted:

Ramsey
The Reeds
Edmure
The Lighting Lord
Mance

Forgot Queen of Thorns. Also, Dany in Mireen/Yunkai'i :bow
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 02, 2012, 10:23:55 PM
Missandei is also in there
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 02, 2012, 10:42:48 PM
Missandei is also in there

Another maid, no one cares tbh.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 02, 2012, 11:01:23 PM
Missandei is also in there

Another maid, no one cares tbh.

It is known.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 02, 2012, 11:03:47 PM
lol they got the love actually/doctor who taco as jojen
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 04, 2012, 12:21:36 AM
I hope the writers/producers get their shit together after last year fiasco.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 12:23:59 AM
After re-reading the books, I agree.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 04, 2012, 12:45:05 AM
I know I go over this continually... but tell me what you would do differently that would result IN A GOOD TV SHOW.  Assholes.  You act like someone is exhuming Shakespeare's corpse, fucking it on live tv while reciting Hamlet in ebonics, and then pissing on the corpse.  For fucks sakes, it's OK GENRE LIT.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 01:00:18 AM
I know I go over this continually... but tell me what you would do differently that would result IN A GOOD TV SHOW.  Assholes.  You act like someone is exhuming Shakespeare's corpse, fucking it on live tv while reciting Hamlet in ebonics, and then pissing on the corpse.  For fucks sakes, it's OK GENRE LIT.

Well, actually, most of the changes are just non sensical and have nothing to do with the tv format.

I can forgive all of them. Except for Robb's change. Robb's change was pointless and went from making a very profound statement about not only Robb, but his father, the Starks, and "honor" - which is a huge thing in the series as a point - to a soppy love story.

Robb Stark didn't fall in love with Jeyne Westerling, he took her virginity and they had sex in a moment of weakness (likely after finding out the death of his brothers coupled with injuries). Robb marries her to save her honor, but forgoes the simple fact that putting her honor over his own word to marry a Frey girl, betrays not only his name and promise, but the Freys honor, and the rest of his men; by honoring one person, you dishonor someone else. In the end, it's an impactful statement on the nature of honor, how flimsy it is, and is a very scathing critique by the author of the Starks. This decision is made stronger by the fact that Ned Stark (seemingly) sired a bastard. Robb Stark did what Ned Stark should have done, or couldn't have done. He is his father's own son and that is reflected in his decision to marry a girl who may have his bastard, simply due to how he grew up and the treatment of Jon Snow.

That is the offensive change in the tv show, and the one that makes zero sense.

In the tv show, he falls in love with a woman amputating a man's leg off. The romance has zero build up, and is not remotely realistic, and feels forced.

Honor, family, duty; a cornerstone of the most important themes in A Song of Ice and Fire series whittled down to a petty love story. Horrible.

All the other changes can be fixed, but that can't.

As an aside, they still have yet to go over the history of Aerys and Rhaegar, or Arya willingly killing the guard to escape Harrenhal. These are huge pieces of character development. Maybe season 2 would be better if it were split into two seasons? For what it's worth, I have faith season 3/4 will be better since they have the sense to split the seasons.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2012, 01:45:20 AM
My problems with the show are more in technical aspects than anything else. I feel like the show's direction is quite pedestrian outside of Alan Taylor's episodes;  S2 was certainly an improvement over S1 in terms of direction but it's still not where it should be. The writing is often rather average at best also, largely due to departures from the novels. Some of Littlefinger's dialogue especially has bordered on fan fiction nonsense, the Ros stuff is horrible, etc.

In terms of book changes, my problems were largely with S2; I thought S1 did a good job in terms of being an adaption whereas S2 made a series of ridiculous changes I don't get. Himuro pointed out the Robb stuff so I won't go there. The next biggest problems for me were Arya and Jon's stories. Arya has one of the darkest and best arcs in the entire series in ACOK, yet it's neutered into an odd fan fiction ("My Summer Vacation with Uncle Tywin" perhaps) that has absolutely no tension or suspense. At the end Arya waltzes out of the gates no different than when she came in; I realize the show doesn't want Arya to seem like some comic book character, killing people left and right, but she should have killed a guard at the least. It's so important to her development...

Then...Jon. He basically does nothing, walks around with Ygritte, gets caught, etc. And don't  get me started on how they butchered the Halfhand, who came off as a bumbling old man; the greatest ranger of the Night's Watch, unable to track dumbasses (Jon and Ygritte).

And then all the stupid stuff they did with Dany...sigh. She barely has any chapters in ACOK so they had to create material, but what they did was rather weak to put it lightly. Her entire arc felt like a cheap Sci Fi channel Sunday movie.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 04, 2012, 01:48:10 AM
Jon and Robb's S2 stuff was weak, for sure.  And Dany's "where are my dragons" crap dragged on for way too long.

For me though, none of that stuff is dealbreaking.  The highs (Tyrion, Arya, late S2 Cersei, Jaime) more than make up for all of that.  Maybe I'm just not as picky and don't put the books on as big a pedestal as all of you wankers, I dunno.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2012, 01:49:51 AM
S3 will feature one of the best directors from Breaking Bad so things should look better. The writing will be the question mark (again)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 02:00:29 AM
Jon and Robb's S2 stuff was weak, for sure.  And Dany's "where are my dragons" crap dragged on for way too long.

For me though, none of that stuff is dealbreaking.  The highs (Tyrion, Arya, late S2 Cersei, Jaime) more than make up for all of that.  Maybe I'm just not as picky and don't put the books on as big a pedestal as all of you wankers, I dunno.

Don't get me wrong. There ARE no deal breakers. It was still pretty great, but if we are going to critique on the direction the show is taking, I think a lot of complaints are legitimate.

Also, the show has made arguably my favorite character (Jon) into a wimpy bitch. I hope that they don't turn Dany's conquer of the East into whine fest, either.

And I agree with Phoenix Dark in that s1 changes were for the best, mostly.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 02:07:18 AM
I hope they dedicate an entire episode to Aerys/Rhaegar and the sack because S3/4 are going to completely rely on knowing that backstory. I don't think the show has mentioned The Mountain slaying Oberyn's sister and her children have they?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2012, 02:13:46 AM
I hope they dedicate an entire episode to Aerys/Rhaegar and the sack because S3/4 are going to completely rely on knowing that backstory. I don't think the show has mentioned The Mountain slaying Oberyn's sister and her children have they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SiWopF28bs

I don't think they need to dedicate an entire episode to backstory. They should just add some exposition in on the subject. I was surprised they didn't have Ned talk about Rhaegar in S1, it would have sowed the seeds for non-book reader speculation. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 02:15:34 AM
I guess I want to see scenes like Brandon Stark's death with :bow -worthy GOT direction.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2012, 02:19:06 AM
speaking of which, I'd totally support a legit Kickstarter for an animated adaption of Game of Thrones. It could be truly amazing, and feature a lot of shit that wouldn't work on television (flash backs)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2012, 05:30:27 AM
I was pretty surprised to find that the books really DON'T have THAT much sex in them, especially compared to the show.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 04, 2012, 10:38:50 AM
I know I go over this continually... but tell me what you would do differently that would result IN A GOOD TV SHOW.  Assholes.  You act like someone is exhuming Shakespeare's corpse, fucking it on live tv while reciting Hamlet in ebonics, and then pissing on the corpse.  For fucks sakes, it's OK GENRE LIT.

Oh give me a fucking break most of the second season was bad tv plain and simple, how someone can defend any fucking scene with Danny or Rob is beyond me.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 04, 2012, 10:46:39 AM
Also I would totally trade the location filming for longer seasons (at least 12 episodes) they really don't add much except for the stuff beyond the wall, I mean they reallyhave to go to Malta or whatever just to show Tyrion and Danny walking around corridors?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2012, 01:39:57 PM
Also I would totally trade the location filming for longer seasons (at least 12 episodes) they really don't add much except for the stuff beyond the wall, I mean they reallyhave to go to Malta or whatever just to show Tyrion and Danny walking around corridors?

Not a bad point, but I do think that S2's choice of Dubrovnik, Croatia for King's Landing was truly amazing; it looks exactly like the city is described in the novel. Alas there aren't many exterior shots in the season. Does every "two characters talking" scene have to be inside a corridor or dark room when you're shooting in one of the most beautiful cities in the world?

Iceland is fine for beyond the Wall to me, although the lack of trees stands out. I do agree there may have been a cheaper place to shoot that stuff, but then again Iceland's weather conditions are truly perfect for those scenes. And it looked beautiful on screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SE1o-pxVLw
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ZephyrFate on December 04, 2012, 04:44:29 PM
I know I go over this continually... but tell me what you would do differently that would result IN A GOOD TV SHOW.  Assholes.  You act like someone is exhuming Shakespeare's corpse, fucking it on live tv while reciting Hamlet in ebonics, and then pissing on the corpse.  For fucks sakes, it's OK GENRE LIT.
It's great genre literature.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on December 05, 2012, 08:38:17 AM
Did you bitches cry this hard when they left Tom Bombadil out of the Lord of the Rings movies?

As I've said time and time again, it's an ADAPTATION.  If it were exactly like the books, you wouldn't watch it because you would know every little thing that was going to happen.  Some stuff doesn't translate well to the screen.  And this is being produced for a pay-channel network, so the sex scenes have to be three-fold.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 05, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
::) The changes aren't the problem it's the fact that 99% of the changes made to the second book where stupid, nonsensical and made for shit tv.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 05, 2012, 03:19:44 PM
Did you bitches cry this hard when they left Tom Bombadil out of the Lord of the Rings movies?

As I've said time and time again, it's an ADAPTATION.  If it were exactly like the books, you wouldn't watch it because you would know every little thing that was going to happen.  Some stuff doesn't translate well to the screen.  And this is being produced for a pay-channel network, so the sex scenes have to be three-fold.

"Some stuff doesn't translate well to the screen" sounds like a cop out and you don't know what you're talking about.

Robb transforming from a man of character, who tries to live up to his father's name and his family's honor into a desperate teen hankering for love is awful. It ruins the character and all of his development. Bubububu Tom Bombadil? Really? Who ultimately isn't that important in the LOTR books or lore beyond the fact that he's a god?

Arya, Hot Pie, and Gendry literally walk outside of gates of Harenhall. There WERE guards. But they were dead already. IT'S AN ADPATATION, he says. No, all they had to do was have one guard, just like in the book, have Arya tell Gendry and Hot Pie to shut the fuck up and stay here, take the dagger she stole (since Bolton isn't in Harenhall, let's just say it's just a random dagger for protection) and then shove it up the git's gut. It would have taken the SAME AMOUNT OF TIME and would have developed her character while doing so. Waltzing out of Harenhall? What kind of person is Arya at the end of season? Oh, just the exact same as she was at the beginning of season 2 and not the survivalist that Arya eventually needs to become. But, OH NO, he says, it's an ADAPTATION! :lol

In the book Dany's dragons aren't taken at all. Pyat Pree invites her to the house of the undying, and she has guts. She's not some prim delicate rose. She has her dragons too. What does she do? She walks to the house of undying's doors, willingly, to take him on his offer. He drugs her, and she burns the fuck out of every single mother fucking wizard in that city. No bitching, no mewling about WHERE'S MY DRAGONS. That segment of Dany's part of season 2 was objectively awful. ADAPTATION! :lol

Jon Snow ranges with Qhorin Halfhand and a host of ranger pros. He scales a mountain with only his hands and feet in bittering cold, he kills a Warg (how has the show not even mentioned what a warg is yet?), and then goes for Ygritte and lets her go. He finds Halfhand and the rest, they're laid into a trap as each individual members dies one after one. Halfhand and Jon eventually range through a cave, knowing they are like to die, with the warg's eagle following them. Halfhand clearly tells Jon to kill him in a ruse to gain the wildlings' trust, and to study them, follow them, fight with them until it's safe to escape. Tension, world building, character development, great fights, and suspense. Jon's chapters had all of these things. What is it like in season 2 of GoT? Oh, he gets lost, Ghost gets lost, Ygritte makes a bunch of jokes about him being a virgin, Halfhand is a fucking idiot, it's boring. They spent at least 10 episodes building Jon's trek beyond wall I think and it was still shit. ADAPTATION.

When adapting, changes are going to be necessary. But when there are unnecessary changes made to the characters and their quest, it makes one wonder what direction they're taking the adaptation in. In GoT's case, things just aren't looking good as far as resolution goes. Since you mentioned LOTR, let's say instead of being best friends, Sam and Frodo are actually lovers. Why? WE DON'T KNOW. That's a GoT season 2 level change. BUBUBU ADAPTATION. These aren't complaints that "THIS WASN'T IN THE BOOK", these are complaints that "haha holy shit, these changes are terribly written, what is this, the sy fy channel?" While it's true GoT tv is pushing the boundaries of information one tv show can hold at once, none of these changes were necessary and they all stink of bad writing. Period.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 05, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
Himuro :bow2
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on December 06, 2012, 01:31:49 AM
Let's look at it like this; how would you look at the show if you hadn't read the books?  Would it still be a bad show?  Would you still be complaining about character development?

Another question, do you think the show would still be able to financially survive if they played out every single detail of every single chapter?  How expensive would it be if they completely played out the escape from Harrenhal, all the battles, ect?  How drawn out would the show be?

My wager is that we would still be somewhere in the first book, HBO would be getting ready to drop the show because of high expenses and low ratings, and you guys would still be complaining.

I love the books as much as you do, don't get me wrong.  I just don't set extremely high expectations for something that if it were meant to be a show, Martin would have written it as a screenplay and not a book.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 08:55:33 AM
Haven't said GoT is a bad show. It is one of my favorite shows on TV but season two had MESS all over it even without the books. From an objective point, season two failed HARD as an adaptation in some areas, but also made for some boring TV in SOME viewpoints. Most of season 2 owned. This doesn't mean all, and the show is still enjoyable and I will watch the fuck out of it but from a narrative standpoint, Dany, Jon, and especially Robb's povs are highly flawed, barely watchable and considerably worse told than the books that had all of their stories laid out.

This doesn't mean there are things the show doesn't improve either (which is a lot) such as hunting of the bastards. You keep going on about adaptation when almost none of these characters had an arc in this season.

Is Jon a better ranger and more skilled, experienced man to lead after Mormon? NO. Did he not balk at what he was told to do, scale treacherous terrain with his bare hands in the line if duty? NO. He bitched, he got made fun of being a virgin. WOW GREAT CHARACTER GROWTH THERE. Did Dany act queenly? She lost her dragons? That is distinguished mentally-challenged. The Danaerys we know from season 1 - great adaptation btw - TAKES NO SHIT. Does she keep asking favors, waiting for someone to support her cause? NO. The Danny we have come to know would take this inti her hands and fuck shit up because she is the lawful heir. How did she grow as a character in season 2? Oh she cried like a beggar, her dragons were stolen, and she burned Pyat Pree. GREAT CHARACTER ARC.

If you had a point (and you don't !) even without the books these viewpoints would still be fairly decent and make for good TV worthy if HBO standards. They weren't.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on December 06, 2012, 09:01:34 AM
Haven't said GoT is a bad show. It is one of my favorite shows on TV but season two had MESS all over it even without the books. From an objective point, season two failed HARD as an adaptation in some areas, but also made for some boring TV in SOME viewpoints. Most of season 2 owned. This doesn't mean all, and the show is still enjoyable and I will watch the fuck out of it but from a narrative standpoint, Dany, Jon, and especially Robb's povs are highly flawed, barely watchable and considerably worse told than the books that had all of their stories laid out.

This doesn't mean there are things the show doesn't improve either (which is a lot) such as hunting of the bastards. You keep going on about adaptation when almost none of these characters had an arc in this season.

Is Jon a better ranger and more skilled, experienced man to lead after Mormon? NO. Did he not balk at what he was told to do, scale treacherous terrain with his bare hands in the line if duty? NO. He bitched, he got made fun of being a virgin. WOW GREAT CHARACTER GROWTH THERE. Did Dany act queenly? She lost her dragons? That is distinguished mentally-challenged. The Danaerys we know from season 1 - great adaptation btw - TAKES NO SHIT. Does she keep asking favors, waiting for someone to support her cause? NO. The Danny we have come to know would take this inti her hands and fuck shit up because she is the lawful heir. How did she grow as a character in season 2? Oh she cried like a beggar, her dragons were stolen, and she burned Pyat Pree. GREAT CHARACTER ARC.

Now this, I can agree with.  To be honest though, I'm not big on Dany in the books either.  I think Martin has drawn it out too long.  That, and I really just want him to finish this series the fuck up so I can get on with my life.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 09:13:02 AM
Also who said anything about every single detail? We don't WANT every detail. It doesn't NEED every detail. But to craft a believable story they have failed on multiple opportunities to do stuff. What is Arya? A survivor right? She changes her name, pretends to be a boy, murders a stable boy, and feels constant pressure from the fall of her house and living in a different world. It is obvious that Arya has the nature of a killer inside her. Why doesn't the show have a simple scene during the escape of Hare hall if her killing a guard? It develops her character to show she is not the little girl she was at the beginning, and it sets up for what the show will eventually do with her character. And you bring up money? ??? Almost none of these arguments have to do with money or being 100% adaptation. I don't expect them to have Jon scaling mountains but I do expect his journey to feel treacherous and him to be a bad ass. I don't expect them to show Robb off screen and show up married suddenly like in the books, but for fucks sake I don't expect them to turn his story into a fucking shitty love story either. What does ANY of this have to do with money? It has every thing to do with shitty writing.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on December 06, 2012, 09:17:03 AM
Himu, it's always about money.  They never would have made the show if they didn't think they couldn't make money off of it.

Take a breath, smoke a cigarette, masturbate, whatever you need to do.  Your inner fanboy is getting the best of you right now.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 09:17:26 AM
Haven't said GoT is a bad show. It is one of my favorite shows on TV but season two had MESS all over it even without the books. From an objective point, season two failed HARD as an adaptation in some areas, but also made for some boring TV in SOME viewpoints. Most of season 2 owned. This doesn't mean all, and the show is still enjoyable and I will watch the fuck out of it but from a narrative standpoint, Dany, Jon, and especially Robb's povs are highly flawed, barely watchable and considerably worse told than the books that had all of their stories laid out.

This doesn't mean there are things the show doesn't improve either (which is a lot) such as hunting of the bastards. You keep going on about adaptation when almost none of these characters had an arc in this season.

Is Jon a better ranger and more skilled, experienced man to lead after Mormon? NO. Did he not balk at what he was told to do, scale treacherous terrain with his bare hands in the line if duty? NO. He bitched, he got made fun of being a virgin. WOW GREAT CHARACTER GROWTH THERE. Did Dany act queenly? She lost her dragons? That is distinguished mentally-challenged. The Danaerys we know from season 1 - great adaptation btw - TAKES NO SHIT. Does she keep asking favors, waiting for someone to support her cause? NO. The Danny we have come to know would take this inti her hands and fuck shit up because she is the lawful heir. How did she grow as a character in season 2? Oh she cried like a beggar, her dragons were stolen, and she burned Pyat Pree. GREAT CHARACTER ARC.

Now this, I can agree with.  To be honest though, I'm not big on Dany in the books either.  I think Martin has drawn it out too long.  That, and I really just want him to finish this series the fuck up so I can get on with my life.

I am "odd" in that I like Daenarys chapters. She is a cold ass bitch with a heart of gold and I love her for it. The conquer of the three cities is my most anticipated event of season three, yes, even more than the red wedding.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on December 06, 2012, 09:19:03 AM
I just called you a fanboy, but I'm going to admit that I hope they do the red wedding "right."

:lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on December 06, 2012, 09:25:05 AM
The red wedding is why I think the change in Robb's reason for marriage is even more stupid.

Man trying to do the honorable thing over duty -> boy who can't keep it in his pants and needs love

Sounds like HBO catering to a certain demo. aka slores.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Groogrux on December 06, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
That's exactly what it is.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on December 06, 2012, 12:20:15 PM
Ugh for the 1000 time, It's not about the changes it's about the quality of those changes!!!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2013, 02:54:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iTg20x7w2s

full trailer will release on Feb 26th
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 22, 2013, 12:50:52 AM
(http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab63/Steelyuhas/S3trailer_zpsc26399a9.png)
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 23, 2013, 12:29:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw
holy fuck
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on February 23, 2013, 12:34:15 AM
Kind of a meh trailer tbh.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brawndolicious on February 23, 2013, 01:44:13 AM
Was that another original song?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 23, 2013, 01:51:34 AM
Was that another original song?

No that's a song by MS MR called Bones.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0a3b4aa43d1161035d9471c69bcd9f55/tumblr_minqy71QQl1r9h4heo1_1280.jpg)

pretty sure that's
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Theon in the Dreadfort
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on February 23, 2013, 07:58:23 AM
Really hope that wasn't the giant's bane climbing the wall, smh.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 23, 2013, 08:34:30 AM
still not feeling Ciarian Hinds as Mance
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ManaByte on February 23, 2013, 10:34:10 AM
I was pretty surprised to find that the books really DON'T have THAT much sex in them, especially compared to the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1w4CRMQVtY
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ManaByte on February 23, 2013, 10:36:22 AM
finished the third book just in time!

You only had to read the first half before season 3, the second half is season 4.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 23, 2013, 04:15:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aCMjkgL.gif)

still not feeling Ciarian Hinds as Mance

Haven't seen him in a scene yet but I'm skeptical. I'm fine with him being aged up, but I had always pictured him being more charismatic and rogue-ish. Basically like a smaller Dominic West. This is a guy who is on one hand a killer but on the other hand a romantic character. Hinds looks more like a darker Tywin Lannister to me.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 23, 2013, 04:20:08 PM
See, that works for me though.  I never really thought of him as young-ish or Dom West-like while reading the book, and I think having him very much like Tywin invites an interesting contrast.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 23, 2013, 04:31:30 PM
It can definitely work. Hinds is a great actor. My only question is how content he'll be with the role. He has already criticized the show's violence and sex, and I'm wondering how he'll feel about

minor spoiler of ASOS and ADWD
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How he'll feel about his reduced role later. If they do ASOS right he'll have some nice content, but after that?
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Dickie Dee on February 23, 2013, 04:32:22 PM
Almost makes me wonder if they're pre-planning deviations from the books. Hind's is a great actor but thinking ahead for Mance's ADwD storyline he simply doesn't fit.

Not even really whinging about it - just sort of scratching my head
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 23, 2013, 08:10:06 PM
I'd imagine it could be hard to sell a lot of actors on them having significantly reduced roles down the line. Many characters have one book where they're in multiple chapters, then disappear or see their fortunes changed for the worse later. I'd be curious to learn how they sold the show to Hinds and got him to agree (outside of the money).

Same with Gillen (Littlefinger). He's a great television actor and I feel like he's been wasted on this show. I dunno what he's doing, changing his accent with every line, and of course the Ros shit makes it even worse. sigh
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2013, 05:10:53 PM
See, that works for me though.  I never really thought of him as young-ish or Dom West-like while reading the book, and I think having him very much like Tywin invites an interesting contrast.

Shoulda been James Purefoy, but instead he's on that (apparently shitty) show The Following.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 24, 2013, 05:38:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/aCMjkgL.gif)

still not feeling Ciarian Hinds as Mance

Haven't seen him in a scene yet but I'm skeptical. I'm fine with him being aged up, but I had always pictured him being more charismatic and rogue-ish. Basically like a smaller Dominic West. This is a guy who is on one hand a killer but on the other hand a romantic character. Hinds looks more like a darker Tywin Lannister to me.

The cut he had in the trailer made him look like a crazy bitter old person. I guess it could work but I prefer the books Mance.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 24, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
See, that works for me though.  I never really thought of him as young-ish or Dom West-like while reading the book, and I think having him very much like Tywin invites an interesting contrast.

Shoulda been James Purefoy, but instead he's on that (apparently shitty) show The Following.

Someone told me it's a good show, dunno. He would be a good pick for Mance, better than West in fact
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on February 24, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
I'd imagine it could be hard to sell a lot of actors on them having significantly reduced roles down the line. Many characters have one book where they're in multiple chapters, then disappear or see their fortunes changed for the worse later. I'd be curious to learn how they sold the show to Hinds and got him to agree (outside of the money).

Same with Gillen (Littlefinger). He's a great television actor and I feel like he's been wasted on this show. I dunno what he's doing, changing his accent with every line, and of course the Ros shit makes it even worse. sigh

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm guessing he is gonna have some scenes with the main characters at the wall in season 4 and then if they combine dance and feast into two or three seasons like I'm thinking they'll do then they will probably move up the Abel story line to season 5.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 28, 2013, 01:00:00 PM
Episode titles have been revealed.


    Ep. 301 – Valar Dohaeris
    Ep. 302 – Dark Wings, Dark Words
    Ep. 303 – Walk of Punishment
    Ep. 304 – And Now His Watch is Ended
    Ep. 305 – Kissed by Fire
    Ep. 306 – to be determined
    Ep. 307 – The Bear and the Maiden Fair
    Ep. 308 – to be determined
    Ep. 309 – The Rains of Castamere
    Ep. 310 – Mhysa

I would advise non-book readers not to look at any Youtube comments right now. I'll make a new thread in a few weeks but until then just remember to MARK all spoilers clearly, and note which book they are from.

If new viewers have questions, the thread should be the safest place for them to ask. IE if someone wants to know a particular lore point or who someone is, etc. Don't google stuff bros, you'll be fucked
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: brob on February 28, 2013, 01:54:03 PM
march 31st? boo. I thought it would be, like, next week or some shit.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
A bear there was,
A bear, A BEAR!
All black and brown,
And covered with hair!
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw
holy fuck

PLEASE DO JON SNOW, THE BEST ASOIAF CHARACTER JUSTICE THIS SEASON
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: ManaByte on February 28, 2013, 08:29:37 PM
Did you bitches cry this hard when they left Tom Bombadil out of the Lord of the Rings movies?

No. Because aside from Strider giving the Hobbits their swords on Weathertop, there's nothing in the film that said they couldn't have run into Bombadil off-screen prior to arriving at Bree.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 28, 2013, 11:56:37 PM
(don't read the youtube comments)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUcuTJnv1JE
(don't read the youtube comments)

 :lol
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on March 01, 2013, 12:18:13 AM
(don't read the youtube comments)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUcuTJnv1JE
(don't read the youtube comments)

 :lol

I have been thinking about renting this and watching it with mai waifu, but I am afraid that she's going to punch me after it finishes s1.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Diunx on March 01, 2013, 12:29:41 AM
There are some scumbags on youtube.

I wish comments like that were punished by hard labor in North Korea or something like that. Completely serious here. There are innocent North Koreans who deserve a first world life more than those people do.

But then those Koreans will become scumbags due to the influence of our disgusting capitalist way of life.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 02, 2013, 08:17:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1pbtBX9Kok

jesus fuck me holy shit.

A bear there was, a bear a bear
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2013, 12:08:56 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1pbtBX9Kok

jesus fuck me holy shit.

A bear there was, a bear a bear

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

A bear there was,
A bear, A BEAR!
All black and brown,
And covered with hair!

 :gladbron :gladbron :gladbron :krs :krs :krs :lawd :lawd :lawd
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 03, 2013, 12:34:48 AM
Michelle MacLaren (Breaking Bad) is directing that episode, and Martin is writing it.  :rejoice
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 03, 2013, 01:27:22 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/cf6be6d22458561fc8c9eb0f5cdcd94f/tumblr_mj2a0ifOkO1rhjaxao4_250.gif)

ASOS/third season spoiler:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Obviously Asha isn't in ASOS but apparently is in this season. Folks on GAF are speculating Balon's death may occur in this season, and that shot of Asha is from his funeral. Could be interesting and set up Euron and Victarion for next season
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Himu on March 03, 2013, 01:39:17 AM
Yeah I was wondering the same thing
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Mandark on March 14, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 15, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
A real 1995 style trailer would have more epic music, Xena/Hercules style!

also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCQnSokNfXY
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 17, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XSeW4B5Rg
wow
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 17, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw
holy fuck

PLEASE DO JON SNOW, THE BEST ASOIAF CHARACTER JUSTICE THIS SEASON

wtf are you going on about... Tyrion is the best character, period.  Hell, at this point I like Jaime better than Jon too.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 17, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
around the 38sec mark...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Looks like Melisandre with Thoros. I'm guessing the show is replacing Edric Storm's role with Gendry, so Stannis will be trying to capture him for the sacrifice. If so that's a change I would welcome - it could be very interesting. There's another scene in the trailer where it seems like Melisandre is about to leave on a ship, and Stannis hugs her. So yea, I'm guessing she takes some soldiers and finds Arya/Gendry/Hound/Thoros.
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 17, 2013, 10:17:40 PM
Nerdbergers, when is this shit starting?
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 17, 2013, 10:19:51 PM
Nerdbergers, when is this shit starting?

31st I wanna say?

Also, if you haven't read the books, avoid ANY AND ALL SPOILERS before S3 EP9. 
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 17, 2013, 10:24:28 PM
I don't click on any of PD's spoilers anyway because I expect cheeseburger pics.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 17, 2013, 10:27:30 PM
I'll be creating a new thread soon. Triumph is right, don't click on spoilers, trust us. I'll make sure to create some rules and stuff. I'm assuming Beezy, you, etc will have questions for instance, and we'll provide basic answers without going into super spoiler territory.

Also Triumph (spoiler):
spoiler (click to show/hide)
IMO we should avoid hyping ep9, simply so it's an utter shock for people. If people expect something "huge" to happen they might be less shocked lol
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Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: chronovore on March 17, 2013, 11:39:07 PM
Nerdbergers, when is this shit starting?

End of the trailer shows March 31st.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 18, 2013, 12:12:19 AM
Nerdbergers, when is this shit starting?

End of the trailer shows March 31st.

I didn't watch the trailers.
Why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MCtC_U4e2o#t=1m40s
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 18, 2013, 12:52:10 AM
Fuck you triumph. Jon never balks. Best character.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 18, 2013, 01:13:20 AM
My list would probably be...

1. Tyrion
2. Arya Stark
3. Jamie Lannister
4. Jon Snow
5. Robb Stark

And if I had to pick my king I'd go with Stannis :rejoice
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Kim Kardashians Butt on March 18, 2013, 01:16:55 AM
Why do you like Robb? Book Robb or TV Robb? Even though I like book Robb...to be a top 5 character?

1. Jon Snow (ASOS :bow)
2. Tyrion
3. Varys
4. Jamie
5. Dany

Tywin as king.
Title: Re: Game Of Thrones S2 (HBO, 9PM EST) thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 18, 2013, 01:22:13 AM
I don't like Robb, I love Robb. I just found myself identifying with him early, and cheering for him. Maybe it's the big brother connection, plus the almost mythic way he is seen in the North. S2 had many problems and I didn't like what they did with Arya, BUT this sums up my Robb fanboyism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73JC846RMl4
:rejoice