facebook is obnoxious today, bunch people screaming about guns. Im as liberal as most, but if a dude wants to kill people- hes gonna find a way. His house was full of bombs/chemical shit.
The Oslo and Arizona shootings caused a huge political storm. That makes me worried about what the actual motivation for the shooter was, it's only a few months before an election.
How would more guns in the theater benefit anyone, considering the guy threw a smoke bomb...What's baffling about it? Taking my AR-15 means you might as well restrict my Ruger Ranch Rifle since they're pretty much the same gun in a different package. "black rifles" are usually just hunting rifles with a different exterior.
I'm as liberal as they come but I agree with MAF: this guy was going to kill people even if gun laws were stronger. He had a smoke bomb and other explosives after all. That being said, I'm baffled why people can buy AR-15s
How would more guns in the theater benefit anyone, considering the guy threw a smoke bomb...What's baffling about it? Taking my AR-15 means you might as well restrict my Ruger Ranch Rifle since they're pretty much the same gun in a different package. "black rifles" are usually just hunting rifles with a different exterior.
I'm as liberal as they come but I agree with MAF: this guy was going to kill people even if gun laws were stronger. He had a smoke bomb and other explosives after all. That being said, I'm baffled why people can buy AR-15s
the whole taking away guns argument is the lazy argument- the real problem is that people feel the need to kill in the first place- regardless of the method. God forbid we spend more time figuring THAT shit out.Exactly this. It's an issue with our culture and society. See Switzerland
the whole taking away guns argument is the lazy argument- the real problem is that people feel the need to kill in the first place- regardless of the method. God forbid we spend more time figuring THAT shit out.
the whole taking away guns argument is the lazy argument- the real problem is that people feel the need to kill in the first place- regardless of the method. God forbid we spend more time figuring THAT shit out.
Automatic rifles are banned though. Most AR-15's are not automatic. The one he used was not an automatic. Sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine. I heard the same thing this morning at work.How would more guns in the theater benefit anyone, considering the guy threw a smoke bomb...What's baffling about it? Taking my AR-15 means you might as well restrict my Ruger Ranch Rifle since they're pretty much the same gun in a different package. "black rifles" are usually just hunting rifles with a different exterior.
I'm as liberal as they come but I agree with MAF: this guy was going to kill people even if gun laws were stronger. He had a smoke bomb and other explosives after all. That being said, I'm baffled why people can buy AR-15s
Not a fan of automatic rifles, meh.
I'm not blaming this on gun control though
facebook is obnoxious today, bunch people screaming about guns. Im as liberal as most, but if a dude wants to kill people- hes gonna find a way. His house was full of bombs/chemical shit.
How much you wanna bet he got his guns at a gun show?Why would that matter? Anyways, reports say they were purchased legally at Gander Mountain
Most sellers at a gun show are legal dealers. They still have to abide by the rules set forth for dealers (background check, ID, etc). Very few people go to a gun show to divest their own personal gun collection. Closing the "loophole" would mean that when I decide to sell to a buddy of mine I have to go to an FFL and have him get a background check and pay them for their time. It would mean I can't sell to my friends or trade firearms privately. Most shooters don't use this "loophole" anyways. It's easy enough to go buy it legally either from a dealer or privately if you do indeed have a criminal history.How much you wanna bet he got his guns at a gun show?Why would that matter? Anyways, reports say they were purchased legally at Gander Mountain
Cause that loophole needs to get closed.
Good point, Mups.Agreed. From his apparent knowledge in explosives he could have easily blown the place up. Gun control isn't the answer for this particular situation. There will always be a way for things like this to happen. It's sad but true.
I agree though, taking guns off the streets wouldn't change anything.
If you're smart enough, you can figure out way to kill people.
The biggest tragedy in current US history didn't use any guns at all.
Anyways, this whole thing is sad. The saddest thing is, there really isn't anything you can do to 100% prevent this. Some people just break.
The Oslo and Arizona shootings caused a huge political storm. That makes me worried about what the actual motivation for the shooter was, it's only a few months before an election.
They may have caused a storm but I do not see how a mass shooting of this nature is going to affect anyone's decision at the ballot box.
please don't tell me you're grouping libertarians with socialists
What a terrible idea. How are you going to enforce that? By registering all guns? Who will be in charge of it? Will they need an FFL to do the transfer? If not, have fun rewriting all the rules set forth over the last half century. They will need an FFL? Have fun rewriting those rules still. Where will you get the political capital for this? You think anyone would really support this legislation? You can't suggest that without creating tighter gun control in general which isn't even the issue in this situation. As I said, he could have just as easily bombed the place. Where there's a will there's a way. The 1994 ban did a lot of good didn't it? Oh wait...The Oslo and Arizona shootings caused a huge political storm. That makes me worried about what the actual motivation for the shooter was, it's only a few months before an election.
They may have caused a storm but I do not see how a mass shooting of this nature is going to affect anyone's decision at the ballot box.
It will get politicized into an argument for more gun control or for more conceal carry holders, at least anytime that gun control comes up as a point of debate between now and November.
If the guy had socialist/libertarian leanings, and claims that that was the reason for the shootings, then it'll makit even more likely to muddy the waters.
Personally, I would want a universal background check system for HANDGUNS since those are what regular criminals use. Criminals don't look for AR-15s when they want to get a disposable gun with no paperwork. I also have no problem with allowing people in any state to get a concealed carry license since those people apparently aren't going around committing murders.
And yes mupepe, that makes it inconvenient for law abiding gun owners who just want to sell/trade guns with their friends. But a small flat fee for any private transaction to do a background check isn't a big deal.
Most AR-15's are not automatic.
clips
What a terrible idea. How are you going to enforce that? By registering all guns? Who will be in charge of it? Will they need an FFL to do the transfer? If not, have fun rewriting all the rules set forth over the last half century. They will need an FFL? Have fun rewriting those rules still. Where will you get the political capital for this? You think anyone would really support this legislation? You can't suggest that without creating tighter gun control in general which isn't even the issue in this situation. As I said, he could have just as easily bombed the place. Where there's a will there's a way. The 1994 ban did a lot of good didn't it? Oh wait...The Oslo and Arizona shootings caused a huge political storm. That makes me worried about what the actual motivation for the shooter was, it's only a few months before an election.
They may have caused a storm but I do not see how a mass shooting of this nature is going to affect anyone's decision at the ballot box.
It will get politicized into an argument for more gun control or for more conceal carry holders, at least anytime that gun control comes up as a point of debate between now and November.
If the guy had socialist/libertarian leanings, and claims that that was the reason for the shootings, then it'll makit even more likely to muddy the waters.
Personally, I would want a universal background check system for HANDGUNS since those are what regular criminals use. Criminals don't look for AR-15s when they want to get a disposable gun with no paperwork. I also have no problem with allowing people in any state to get a concealed carry license since those people apparently aren't going around committing murders.
And yes mupepe, that makes it inconvenient for law abiding gun owners who just want to sell/trade guns with their friends. But a small flat fee for any private transaction to do a background check isn't a big deal.
conversation today was a carnival of stupid.
I don't actually care about gun laws, and am not anti-gun. but all day "IF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN PACKING..."
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN TWELVE DEATHS
it's sad and shitty but come on now.
Guys, as someone who lives in Southern California, PLEASE don't teach ManaByte how to buy guns and ammo.
Yeah, Obama wants nothing to do with gun control, so much so that when the Republicans attached riders to bills legalizing concealed carry in national parks and on Amtrak, he didn't veto it or even threaten to. Result? Obama has expanded federal concealed carry more than any President ever I believe.
Still, HE'S COMIN' FER YER GUNZZZ!!!
I'm not a huge proponent of the death penalty, but in clear cut cases like this I think there should be special provisions, and this should be all over in a week at most. He did it, everyone saw him do it, and there is no shadow of a doubt. He will never be a functioning member of society again, and serves no further purpose on this planet other than being a resource drain. Seven days from now he should be strapped on a table with a needle in his arm.
In an idealized world
Agreed, death penalty should be used in only cases like this.
son
i am disappoint
In an idealized worldAnd back here in the real world.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-07-04/news/chi-chicago-violence-july-3july-4-4-teens-shot-in-southwest-side-driveby-20120703_1_north-leamington-avenue-west-suburban-medical-center-chicago-lawn-neighborhood
How many of those do you honestly think were registered weapons? How many of these unregistered owners of guns would go out and get them registered due to new regulations? I have found that people who carry unregistered firearms, perform drive-bys and shoot innocent children might not give two shits about your idealized world and laws.
Yeah, that's the whole point of making registration mandatory.
Yeah, that's the whole point of making registration mandatory.
A mandatory law. Why did you not say that in the first place? Tis the end of black market guns as we know them. So all Bush had to do was make the war on drugs, mandatory. Think of all the lives that could have been saved.
Are you saying that black market dealers will import guns from Mexico or Canada?
Are you saying that black market dealers will import guns from Mexico or Canada?
Last I checked the US Government was an exporter of guns to Mexico. :-X
I think you are missing the sarcasm in my last post. There are tons of guns out there, tons of legal and illegal gunmakers out there. You can call for mandatory registration of guns but all that will do is force the honest gun owners to pay yet another fee, while it will do absolutely nothing to affect gun crime, as criminals tend to ignore laws (yes even MANDATORY laws).
Reading the tweets in the theater from the victim who also tweeted about surviving those Toronto shootings a while few weeks back is pretty f'n eerie.
i think i found a way to ride this out - by laughing at homo setchels on gaf
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40070461&postcount=1728
ahaha, unless this guy was directly affected by this via people he knows or lives in the same town or something he is an asspie, human beings aren't wired to care about other people in groups of more than a hundred or two
nvm it absolutely cannot get any better than this, fuck this guy for ruining everything: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40070607&postcount=1754
So why is there no black market gun manufacturing industry in any other country that has strict gun laws?
So why is there no black market gun manufacturing industry in any other country that has strict gun laws?Is this based on research? I think you are reaching into the clouds again.
For example, I am using drugs as info is easier to find.
http://blog.thegooddrugsguide.com/0801/7-countries-you-dont-want-to-get-caught-with-drugs-in/
Iran is one of the most active executioners of drug offenders. Under the Islamic regime, up to 500 drug traffickers are executed every year. More than 10,000 narcotics traffickers and drug users have already been put to death in Iran in the past few decades. Drug possession and use is also punished severely. Getting caught with a few grams of marijuana could get one up to 70 lashes.
Most sellers at a gun show are legal dealers. They still have to abide by the rules set forth for dealers (background check, ID, etc). Very few people go to a gun show to divest their own personal gun collection. Closing the "loophole" would mean that when I decide to sell to a buddy of mine I have to go to an FFL and have him get a background check and pay them for their time. It would mean I can't sell to my friends or trade firearms privately. Most shooters don't use this "loophole" anyways. It's easy enough to go buy it legally either from a dealer or privately if you do indeed have a criminal history.How much you wanna bet he got his guns at a gun show?Why would that matter? Anyways, reports say they were purchased legally at Gander Mountain
Cause that loophole needs to get closed.
Are you saying that black market dealers will import guns from Mexico or Canada?
Last I checked the US Government was an exporter of guns to Mexico. :-X
I think you are missing the sarcasm in my last post. There are tons of guns out there, tons of legal and illegal gunmakers out there. You can call for mandatory registration of guns but all that will do is force the honest gun owners to pay yet another fee, while it will do absolutely nothing to affect gun crime, as criminals tend to ignore laws (yes even MANDATORY laws).
So why is there no black market gun manufacturing industry in any other country that has strict gun laws?
Most sellers at a gun show are legal dealers. They still have to abide by the rules set forth for dealers (background check, ID, etc). Very few people go to a gun show to divest their own personal gun collection. Closing the "loophole" would mean that when I decide to sell to a buddy of mine I have to go to an FFL and have him get a background check and pay them for their time. It would mean I can't sell to my friends or trade firearms privately. Most shooters don't use this "loophole" anyways. It's easy enough to go buy it legally either from a dealer or privately if you do indeed have a criminal history.How much you wanna bet he got his guns at a gun show?Why would that matter? Anyways, reports say they were purchased legally at Gander Mountain
Cause that loophole needs to get closed.
Yeah, buying guns in AMERCUH ain't hard. Even if you got a record a mile long.
Like somebody said earlier, the problem ain't the fact that people buy guns, it's the fact that people wanna kill other people.
Honestly, in my opinion everyone having access to better medical care including mental health care would probably help stop shit like this more than gun control, but it would make people like bdoughty has a sad if some dirty poor got a yearly check up with some of his hard earned tax dollars, so this is the sort of bullshit you get to live with in a society as fucking dumb as ours.
The whole "if people in the theaters had guns, this wouldn't have been as bad" crowd is totally nuts. It's a dark theater, it's suddenly filled with choking smoke, and someone somewhere is firing wildly into a large, panicked crowd. And you're going to expect a few gun owners [likely with only the baseline of training in the handling of the weapon and nothing in the way of police/military tactical training] are going to suddenly work together to take down the shooter? Give me a break.
The whole "if people in the theaters had guns, this wouldn't have been as bad" crowd is totally nuts. It's a dark theater, it's suddenly filled with choking smoke, and someone somewhere is firing wildly into a large, panicked crowd. And you're going to expect a few gun owners [likely with only the baseline of training in the handling of the weapon and nothing in the way of police/military tactical training] are going to suddenly work together to take down the shooter? Give me a break.
The whole "if people in the theaters had guns, this wouldn't have been as bad" crowd is totally nuts. It's a dark theater, it's suddenly filled with choking smoke, and someone somewhere is firing wildly into a large, panicked crowd. And you're going to expect a few gun owners [likely with only the baseline of training in the handling of the weapon and nothing in the way of police/military tactical training] are going to suddenly work together to take down the shooter? Give me a break.
People were saying that because this happened just a couple of days earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJdveMMG43Q
The whole "if people in the theaters had guns, this wouldn't have been as bad" crowd is totally nuts. It's a dark theater, it's suddenly filled with choking smoke, and someone somewhere is firing wildly into a large, panicked crowd. And you're going to expect a few gun owners [likely with only the baseline of training in the handling of the weapon and nothing in the way of police/military tactical training] are going to suddenly work together to take down the shooter? Give me a break.
and because of thousands of other examples of bad armed people being stopped by good armed people. there is a precedence for this kind of thing, maybe in the future you should turn to that instead of your imagination as to what the outcome would be.
ROFL
if you really want to know my gun fetishist fantasy it involves shooting rocked up redgaurds with an 870 from the relative comfort of my space blanket while munching on dehydrated lasagna prepared with boiling water from my camping stove
realist
those homicide rates are in my opinion irrelevant,
the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa
those homicide rates are in my opinion irrelevant
t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa. n
goddamnit boogie
anyway, as for the shooting itself.
I don't understand why the dude booby-trapped his apartment with explosives, presumably to kill cops on entry, and yet, when he was arrested, it was reported that he was the one who told the cops that there were explosives in his apartment. ???
t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa. n
Wait, let's get back to this.
Ignoring the part where you're racist and suck at geography, you're also WRONG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
Highest homicide rate = Honduras. For countries that have such data, the highest rates are in Central and South America. South Africa trails at number 10 on that one wiki list.
Of course, people in Latin America are still kinda dark skinned, so your overall point still stands, right, drew?
anyway, as for the shooting itself.
I don't understand why the dude booby-trapped his apartment with explosives, presumably to kill cops on entry, and yet, when he was arrested, it was reported that he was the one who told the cops that there were explosives in his apartment. ???
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018744138_apuscoloradoshooting.html
The police found a Batman mask at his house. Huh.
those homicide rates are in my opinion irrelevant, they are contaminated with the fact the the overwhelming vast majority of them are black on black. keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa. no matter what reaction you have been conditioned to have since grade school upon hearing something like this it's a simple fact that can't be ignored as coincidence or mere "environment"
i'll just leave this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw
t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa. n
Wait, let's get back to this.
Ignoring the part where you're racist and suck at geography, you're also WRONG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
Highest homicide rate = Honduras. For countries that have such data, the highest rates are in Central and South America. South Africa trails at number 10 on that one wiki list.
Of course, people in Latin America are still kinda dark skinned, so your overall point still stands, right, drew?
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North America 6.5 4.7
Europe 5.4 3.5
those homicide rates are in my opinion irrelevant, they are contaminated with the fact the the overwhelming vast majority of them are black on black. keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa. no matter what reaction you have been conditioned to have since grade school upon hearing something like this it's a simple fact that can't be ignored as coincidence or mere "environment"
i'll just leave this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw
t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa. n
Wait, let's get back to this.
Ignoring the part where you're racist and suck at geography, you're also WRONG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
Highest homicide rate = Honduras. For countries that have such data, the highest rates are in Central and South America. South Africa trails at number 10 on that one wiki list.
Of course, people in Latin America are still kinda dark skinned, so your overall point still stands, right, drew?
What am I missing here boogie?Quote'04 '10
North America 6.5 4.7
Europe 5.4 3.5
How is that 3-4x the homicide rate??? Are you talking about a separate stat for gun-only intentional homicide, or all gun-related homicide/manslaughter or some other definition?
t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa. n
Wait, let's get back to this.
Ignoring the part where you're racist and suck at geography, you're also WRONG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
Highest homicide rate = Honduras. For countries that have such data, the highest rates are in Central and South America. South Africa trails at number 10 on that one wiki list.
Of course, people in Latin America are still kinda dark skinned, so your overall point still stands, right, drew?
What am I missing here boogie?Quote'04 '10
North America 6.5 4.7
Europe 5.4 3.5
How is that 3-4x the homicide rate??? Are you talking about a separate stat for gun-only intentional homicide, or all gun-related homicide/manslaughter or some other definition?
I would imagine that's because "Europe" in that stat would include those countries that were behind the old iron curtain, which tend to have a higher homicide rate than the rest of Europe. If Russia is included in that Europe stat, that alone would bump the average way up because their rate is like 12 per 100k.
When I compare the US to other "developed" countries, I mean Western and northern Europe, Canada, Japan and Australia, essentially. Countries that would have been labelled as "first world countries" back in the day (though obviously that term doesn't quite work in 2012.)
Advisement hearing live on TV right now. Holmes is blinking a ton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRxIpb8IPV0
Great heartfelt speech, and the story towards the end is truly a welcome feel good reminder of the enduring human spirit.
In terms of media coverage, I don't think we'll ever see a day where focus is not so voyeuristic and focused entirely on every detail of the killer's life/actions. Media stations just attempt to 1-up each other every second, as "analysts" and watchers attempt to project all their fears and assumptions onto the murderer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRxIpb8IPV0
Great heartfelt speech, and the story towards the end is truly a welcome feel good reminder of the enduring human spirit.
In terms of media coverage, I don't think we'll ever see a day where focus is not so voyeuristic and focused entirely on every detail of the killer's life/actions. Media stations just attempt to 1-up each other every second, as "analysts" and watchers attempt to project all their fears and assumptions onto the murderer.
Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.
The guy apparently financed his plan with a $25k stipend he got from a federal grant that paid for his school tuition.
Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.
Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.
Makes you feel bad for Obama in this case, damned it he mentions it, damned if he doesn't. Always interesting to watch intolerance from the other side of the isle.
He was, and he told the cops he was The JokerStop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.
Makes you feel bad for Obama in this case, damned it he mentions it, damned if he doesn't. Always interesting to watch intolerance from the other side of the isle.
Lost tolerance to religious bullshit a long time ago.
Some people on my not so bright country are saying that the dude was dressed as the Joker, smh.
Personally I don't know why he didn't have the balls to kill himself. If he wasn't in it for the attention and fame he presumed he would get by doing what he did.
One of the victims in the James Holmes mass murder spree has lawyered up and plans to file a lawsuit ... because he feels the theater dropped the ball in a very fatal way.
Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose. One of Brown's best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died. Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.
Brown has hired attorney Donald Karpel to rep him. Karpel tells TMZ ... he is targeting 3 defendants.
1. The theater. Karpel claims it was negligent for the theater to have an emergency door in the front that was not alarmed or guarded. It's widely believed Holmes entered the theater with a ticket, propped the emergency door open from inside, went to his car and returned with guns.
2. Holmes' doctors. Karpel says it appears Holmes was on several medications -- prescribed by one or more doctors -- at the time of the shooting and he believes the docs did not properly monitor Holmes.
3. Warner Bros. Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."
OVER A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. THROUGHOUT ITS TENURE IN THEATRES THIS PAST WEEK, ONLY ONE SHOOTING HAS OCCURRED OUT OF THOUSANDS OF THEATRES COUNTRY AND WORLD WIDE.Even worse is that Holmes began planning this months in advance and unless he saw a prescreening they've really got no legs to stand on with WB.
LET'S BLAME THE MOVIE.
In other new's has anyone been reading about the shooters family history? Most importantly having to do with his father and his research? Very interesting stuff all about how his father worked with DARPA on the creation of new technologies related to communications with the brain. Coincidence? And that the school he was attending in Colorado is a pitri dish of eggheads that tend to get swallowed into DARPA. Hell the school was one of the biggest "DARPA campus'" in recent history until it was "disbanded." I almost wonder if something actually happened to him with the research he was delving into. It could explain a few things possibly. Still not an excuse for what he did though.
I'd be pretty surprised if he was anything other than another lonely, frustrated beta male angry at society 'cause he can't get a girlfriend/status and generally thinks he deserves a lot more than he got. What has emerged so far?
I'd be pretty surprised if he was anything other than another lonely, frustrated beta male angry at society 'cause he can't get a girlfriend/status and generally thinks he deserves a lot more than he got. What has emerged so far?
But I agree with the doctor part. These fucking doctors prescribe meds like candy.
I don't see how a doctor doing their job as outlined by the APA should be culpable for a patient going out and shooting up a theatre. People are (in my opinion as well) generally overmedicated for psychological disorders, but there are millions of overmedicated people out there *not* shooting people. Which makes sense, as overmedication *generally* leads to lethargy, not explosions. It's *under*-medication with particular disorders that can lead to the boomy-boom.
In other new's has anyone been reading about the shooters family history? Most importantly having to do with his father and his research? Very interesting stuff all about how his father worked with DARPA on the creation of new technologies related to communications with the brain. Coincidence? And that the school he was attending in Colorado is a pitri dish of eggheads that tend to get swallowed into DARPA. Hell the school was one of the biggest "DARPA campus'" in recent history until it was "disbanded." I almost wonder if something actually happened to him with the research he was delving into. It could explain a few things possibly. Still not an excuse for what he did though.
This one's already sending conspiracy theorists into a feeding frenzy, connecting the dots from Neuroscience to DARPA to MKULTRA.
But I agree with the doctor part. These fucking doctors prescribe meds like candy.
I don't see how a doctor doing their job as outlined by the APA should be culpable for a patient going out and shooting up a theatre. People are (in my opinion as well) generally overmedicated for psychological disorders, but there are millions of overmedicated people out there *not* shooting people. Which makes sense, as overmedication *generally* leads to lethargy, not explosions. It's *under*-medication with particular disorders that can lead to the boomy-boom.
AMA, not APA. Psychiatrists are medical doctors and can prescribe medications. Psychologists (APA) can't... yet. Well, they can in Louisiana and New Mexico, but that's it.
Dane Cook is using the Colorado shooting tragedy as material for his standup act. Last night, Cook took the stage at the Laugh Factory on Sunset Blvd. and began to talk about "Dark Knight Rises." In footage, obtained by DailyCaller.com, Cook can be heard saying ... "So I heard that the guy came into the theater about 25 minutes into the movie ... And I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie, but the movie is pretty much a piece of crap ... yeah, spoiler alert.”Cook continued ... “I know that if none of that would have happened, pretty sure that somebody in that theater, about 25 minutes in, realizing it was a piece of crap, was probably like ‘ugh f*cking shoot me.’”A bunch of people in the crowd laughed ... some people groaned. For the record, the shooting occurred exactly one week ago ... 12 people were killed and 58 were injured with many people still hospitalized.