THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Borys on October 30, 2012, 09:34:39 AM

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Post by: Borys on October 30, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
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Post by: demi on October 30, 2012, 10:05:20 AM
Cant wait to play it... you jealous Borys :drool
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Post by: Momo on October 30, 2012, 10:38:59 AM
I still have a PSOne version tucked away somewhere.
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Post by: maxy on October 30, 2012, 10:40:35 AM
February 2013

Post some scans, maxy.

I don't pay much attention what happens to handhelds.

I'm sure those will pop up somewhere
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Post by: archnemesis on October 30, 2012, 10:41:22 AM
It looks like a complete 3D remake judging from the scans.
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 12:22:20 PM
oh my god it's a full on remake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 12:25:13 PM
Oh my god.

:o

I never thought...NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. That DQ7 would get a 3d remake. NEVER.

:o

I am AMAZED and shocked, and...holy shit.
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 12:27:14 PM
Let's cast the sails and go back in time! Chrono Trigger's successor!

:bow

Hopefully with better pacing and more reasonable length!

:bow

With the best vignettes in the series!

:bow

This could be the best DQ game of all time, if they play their cards right.

:o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX17sQZJtY4

:bow
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Post by: demi on October 30, 2012, 12:27:32 PM
And it comes out in only a few months....
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 12:29:12 PM
This a true megaton. WOW.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on October 30, 2012, 12:29:19 PM
Wait I thought DQ7 was the one where you had to play like 50 hours before they unlocked the job system
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Post by: Tasty on October 30, 2012, 12:40:23 PM
Wait this is a full remake? I thought this was 3D too like 8.

Ah, guess not. That makes this slightly more interesting to watch unfold now.
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Post by: Tasty on October 30, 2012, 12:41:38 PM
Lol.

"What, you don't like DQX being an MMO? Uhhhh... here's a remake of an old game we're sure you'll like!"
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2012, 12:46:50 PM
Enix has been remaking Dragon Quest for ages, and the remakes regularly sell over a million copies.
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Post by: Takao on October 30, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
Best DQ game in history gets a remake on Nintendo's handheld. There is no stronger blow Vita could take in the face, no stronger.

 Monster Hunter was a much bigger blow. People (myself included) expected that on Vita. No one expected Dragon Quest on Vita.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2012, 02:33:52 PM
Is it just safe to assume it's getting brought over to the West? The new guy can't tell if the old hands are being sarcastic about its porting chances :lol
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Post by: demi on October 30, 2012, 02:34:47 PM
I think it's a safe bet, published by Nintendo like the rest...
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Post by: Tasty on October 30, 2012, 02:37:02 PM
:bow Nintendo :bow2
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2012, 02:40:12 PM
Yeah I always wondered about Nintendo publishing handheld SE games. So SE just believes there's not enough ROI and Nintendo does, or SE doesn't have the logistical capabilities in the West, or...?
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 02:48:33 PM
Yeah I always wondered about Nintendo publishing handheld SE games. So SE just believes there's not enough ROI and Nintendo does, or SE doesn't have the logistical capabilities in the West, or...?

S-E gave up on localizing DQ in the west, especially after the ds remakes bombed. Simple. So Nintendo took up the mantle by publishing and localizing IX and VI.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
Oh the remakes bombed? All three? That's a shame. I remember V being out of print early or something. Man they must have done really bad to scare off SE.
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 02:53:59 PM
DQ4 and 5 were done by S-E of America and Europe. IV and V did horrible numbers. So when DQ9 dropped, Nintendo took up the mantle, seeing a good opportunity for sales. 4 and 5 bombed, Nintendo of America/Europe did 6 and DQMJ2.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2012, 02:58:59 PM
I see. What about the FF remakes on the GBA? Those were published by Nintendo too and they obviously predate the DS remakes. SE thought the GBA ports weren't worth the effort either?
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 03:02:55 PM

Guess not, but remember that S-E didn't even do DQ9. That is the biggest sign they gave up on DQ, or Nintendo won DQ over with money.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2012, 03:12:07 PM
Didn't DQ9 do really well in Japan? Was SE surprised by its success after farming out its production?
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 03:16:52 PM
I'm pretty sure S-E was not surprised, but mind you we're talking about the west here. Japan's relationship with DQ is not the same as the wests. Nintendo tried all they could to make DQ9 a success in the west, likening it to the next Pokemon.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
Yeah I remember the huge advertising blitz. You didn't see that many DS games publicized so heavily. Wonder if this ups the chances of a DQ8 remake. The 3DS' hardware could handle that, right?
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 03:29:18 PM
I'm pretty sure they'll do DQ8 after this if not immediately. It has a lot less things to do for a remake than 7. They just need to fix the alchemy pot, tighten up the battle speed, enable a first person battle mode, ideally.

I'd also love 1-3 3d remakes more than anything. They deserve remakes and I'd love to have access to the entire series on one system.
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Post by: SantaC on October 30, 2012, 03:31:07 PM
only DQ game I ever played was DQ8. How is DQ7?

I love the overworld in 8, but the battles felt slooooooow like hell.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2012, 03:35:04 PM
I'm pretty sure they'll do DQ8 after this if not immediately. It has a lot less things to do for a remake than 7. They just need to fix the alchemy pot, tighten up the battle speed, enable a first person battle mode, ideally.

I'd also love 1-3 3d remakes more than anything. They deserve remakes and I'd love to have access to the entire series on one system.

YES the first trilogy remakes in 3d would be awesome! I played all three on the GBC again over the summer.. DQII would be great if it were expanded in a remake (more equipment, fleshed-out story,  etc...) The game world was so big for its time but it's so empty.
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
7 is good but flawed as ever fuck. If you're talking story, it's Horii taking his concept with Chrono Trigger and going to town with it but making the length 100+ hours. If it's gameplay, it is a drawn out slog. Wait for 3ds remake so we can see what improvements they've made to pacing (story or gameplay).
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Post by: Himu on October 30, 2012, 03:56:29 PM
Shards? Really Borys?

Really?

Miss one shard, double back and explore (two versions of the same!) dungeon again to find it. Not play for a few months and still missing a shard? Good fucking luck, you'd might as well start the game over.

Shards are shit. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Post by: parallax on October 30, 2012, 04:33:27 PM
fuck dq 7, where the fuck is my full remake of dq 3?
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 30, 2012, 04:47:29 PM
But I was not annoyed. In fact that showed me how vast and rich the game is. To get "stuck" in a RPG? It is unheard of. You can get stuck in adventure games but not in jRPG (except too hard bosses).

That's some serious weeaboo shit right there, Borys. For real.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 30, 2012, 06:03:23 PM
this is a game changer

my god this is bigger than more shitty star wars movies
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Post by: mjemirzian on October 30, 2012, 06:37:41 PM
More DQ is cool and all, but is this really a big deal from a console wars perspective? I don't get it.

Then again I rarely pay attention to console wars stuff.
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Post by: demi on October 30, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
It is to Borys only cuz he isnt going to be able to play it anyway :lol
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Post by: parallax on October 30, 2012, 08:05:20 PM
More DQ is cool and all, but is this really a big deal from a console wars perspective? I don't get it.

Then again I rarely pay attention to console wars stuff.

Its a dq game, so its gonna push units. Not a gamechanger though
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Post by: Takao on October 30, 2012, 08:31:28 PM
Didn't DQ9 do really well in Japan? Was SE surprised by its success after farming out its production?

Level-5 developing DQVIII, and IX isn't surprising. The only one developed internally at Enix/Square Enix has been DQX.
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Post by: Trent Dole on October 30, 2012, 10:06:14 PM
3DS had already won in Japan's handheld market, this is just pissing in Vita's wounds.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on October 30, 2012, 10:58:10 PM
It is to Borys only cuz he isnt going to be able to play it anyway :lol

Borys is making mad cheddar now, he could totally buy a 3DS if he wanted to and his wife said it was okay.
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Post by: Shaka Khan on October 30, 2012, 11:25:30 PM
The title :lol

The game was over before it began, my precious pole. :sonic
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Post by: Freyj on October 30, 2012, 11:30:46 PM
I love DQ7,  but I just replayed it a year or two ago. Would so much rather have a DQ3 remake.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 31, 2012, 12:32:07 AM
day one
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 31, 2012, 01:28:03 AM
Didn't DQ9 do really well in Japan? Was SE surprised by its success after farming out its production?

Level-5 developing DQVIII, and IX isn't surprising. The only one developed internally at Enix/Square Enix has been DQX.

That's interesting. I've never really tracked development of the games like that. Enix (then SE) was so synonymous with DQ. I had no idea they've had external studios develop all the previous games.

Is there any particular reason why three different developers have been used to make DQ? Seems like such a lucrative contract that any studio would kill to retain the work.
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Post by: Raban on October 31, 2012, 02:37:21 AM
This would've been bigger if it was Final Fantasy VI ::)
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Post by: mjemirzian on October 31, 2012, 05:32:53 AM
I think this current gen has shown that consoles have legs and they can recover from a slow start. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple years from now Vita was doing better after a price drop and a major release or two.

In any case, console wars are silly.
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Post by: archnemesis on October 31, 2012, 05:39:51 AM
I hope that will be the case, but I fear that many developers have already abandoned ship. At least Gust and Falcom are still on board.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 31, 2012, 09:17:37 AM
Shards? Really Borys?

Really?

Miss one shard, double back and explore (two versions of the same!) dungeon again to find it. Not play for a few months and still missing a shard? Good fucking luck, you'd might as well start the game over.

Shards are shit. What the fuck is wrong with you?

My other issue with them is that they basically force you to exhaustively explore every nook and cranny for fear of missing a shard. I like exploration but on my own terms where I can decide whether a given area looks interesting to me or not. Being forced to obsessively scour every town and dungeon doesn't feel like fun exploration, it feels like trying to find your lost keys that have got to be somewhere in your apartment, or wait I could've left them in the grocery store, let's think back and retrace my steps ... I mean, who the fuck wants that experience replicated anywhere.
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Post by: tiesto on October 31, 2012, 09:57:25 AM
Naturally all the good news happens right when I have no power due to Sandy :P

Looks fucking SICK, wish this was out in the americas now so I'd have something to do.
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Post by: Himu on October 31, 2012, 01:04:09 PM
No, Borys.

Masochists do. We want no part in it.
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Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2012, 01:47:30 PM
No, Borys.

Masochists do. We want no part in it.

Don't you like Shenmooey?
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Post by: Bebpo on October 31, 2012, 02:19:07 PM
Maybe I'll play this.

I'd like to, but unless they speed it up I don't know if I'm up for a 100 hour+ rpg.
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Post by: Himu on October 31, 2012, 02:30:24 PM
No, Borys.

Masochists do. We want no part in it.

Don't you like Shenmooey?

You have never played Shenmue or Dragon Warrior VII and Shenmue doesn't involve collecting shitty puzzle pieces you need to progress and have to search every nook and cranny and the entire game world if you missed one.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 31, 2012, 04:10:32 PM
yeah, shenmue has you repeatedly scouring a town asking shitty questions to progress! totally different!
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Post by: Himu on October 31, 2012, 04:18:24 PM
Shut the fuck up, this is a Dragon Quest VII thread and not another Shenmue witch hunt. God, ban Andrex from talking about games he has never played before please.
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Post by: Himu on October 31, 2012, 04:20:06 PM
Which would be all of them, funnily enough.
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Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2012, 04:21:44 PM
Looks like I touched a nerve. :teehee
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 31, 2012, 04:50:51 PM
everyone's opinion sucks except mine
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 31, 2012, 06:11:42 PM
which dragon quest was the one where you experienced yourself through different times and shit

I've only ever beaten 8 and IX, played through some of the DS ones but forget what they're about
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 31, 2012, 07:52:19 PM
Day one

A shame I bought Positive Touch's PSX copy since the 3DS version will probably be out by the time I get around to it.

The 3DS is starting to get a pretty nice library.
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Post by: Positive Touch on October 31, 2012, 08:41:18 PM
which dragon quest was the one where you experienced yourself through different times and shit


7 had you go back in time to an area and fix its problem, then go to present day and visit it again
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 31, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
oh wait no I'm dumb, I'm thinking of V I think.  something about living the hero's life out from boyhood to raising your own family
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 31, 2012, 09:13:40 PM
Looks like I touched a nerve. :teehee

You must have older siblings because you are way too good at pushing buttons :lol
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Post by: Tasty on October 31, 2012, 11:42:26 PM
Looks like I touched a nerve. :teehee

You must have older siblings because you are way too good at pushing buttons :lol

Lol I never thought about it like that.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 01, 2012, 12:48:04 AM
What they should do for the Loto trilogy is just translate and port the SNES remakes they did a while back. They were really well done. Put all three on one cartridge and sell it for like $25-30. I can't imagine the first two would ever be candidates for a 3D conversion so might as well make a quick buck with the SNES ones.
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Post by: Himu on November 01, 2012, 02:12:53 AM
fuck that. full 3d. 3d dragon quest 2 :drool
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 01, 2012, 02:18:27 AM
fuck that. full 3d. 3d dragon quest 2 :drool

I'm right there with you but we both know there's a snowball's chance in hell of that happening :lol
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Post by: parallax on November 01, 2012, 12:41:13 PM
fuck that. full 3d. 3d dragon quest 2 :drool

ill take that too.
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Post by: Himu on November 01, 2012, 12:55:32 PM
fuck that. full 3d. 3d dragon quest 2 :drool

I'm right there with you but we both know there's a snowball's chance in hell of that happening :lol

more likely than dq7 3d remake.

oh wait.

 8)
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 01, 2012, 02:29:40 PM
fuck that. full 3d. 3d dragon quest 2 :drool

I'm right there with you but we both know there's a snowball's chance in hell of that happening :lol

more likely than dq7 3d remake.

oh wait.

 8)

:lol I think that new smartphone's gone to your head, badass.
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Post by: Himu on November 01, 2012, 02:32:41 PM
If you told me a week ago that DQ1-3 were being remade in 3d for the 3ds, I'd believe you. If you told me DQ7 was being remade in full 3d on the 3ds, I wouldn't have believed you. 1-3 would require less resources than a 7 remake.
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 01, 2012, 03:16:43 PM
If you told me a week ago that DQ1-3 were being remade in 3d for the 3ds, I'd believe you. If you told me DQ7 was being remade in full 3d on the 3ds, I wouldn't have believed you. 1-3 would require less resources than a 7 remake.

I agree with the resources thing, but I guess I was thinking more in context of ROI - the first two games are soooo short that it just seems hard to imagine that the company would believe them worth redoing in 3D. OTOH like you said, their length implies fewer resources to do, so who knows? Someone get Oscar in here. Accurate mofo.

I don't think the first two FFs were redone in 3D, right? Just really shiny sprite remakes. And those are longer than the first two DQs.
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Post by: Himu on November 01, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Yes, but the only FF's that have gotten full fledged remakes are fewer in number than DQ. FF is impertinent.
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Post by: demi on November 14, 2012, 10:21:27 AM
How long until you can play it, Borys? I dont see any 3DS emulators in the future.......
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Post by: demi on November 14, 2012, 10:38:25 AM
Don't know if you got the memo but I never play remakes/ remasters etc. as long as I finished the original game even on NES even 20 years ago.

Replaying the same game = waste of time. You know all the story, you know the ending, you know bosses etc. For me it makes no sense at all. I'd rather play something I never played in that time.

Nice save... lol

Why do you care then? U are showing an awful lot amount of interest.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on November 14, 2012, 10:39:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/507kl.jpg)

Haha, dat face.
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Post by: demi on November 14, 2012, 10:43:18 AM
DQ7 isnt the best in the series, but hopefully this remake fixes the shitton of issues enough to make it one.
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Post by: Diunx on November 14, 2012, 11:46:17 AM
looks like DQ9  :-X
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Post by: bork on November 15, 2012, 10:04:19 AM
looks like DQ9  :-X

Hey yeah, I thought this game was coming out on 3DS, not the DS.
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Post by: Enl on December 14, 2012, 05:02:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jFCuBXskCM
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Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2012, 05:16:44 AM
Looks a lot better than I expected.

I've always been sort of interested in DQ but this looks like the wrong game to start with for some reason. It just looks so big.
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Post by: Fifstar on December 14, 2012, 05:32:52 AM
Looks so so good. Would be a reason to get a 3DS for me, if it comes over to Yurop or even USA.
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Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2012, 07:26:16 AM
Looks goooooood

Better not be 100 hours though.  I don't got time for that.
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Post by: treythemovie on December 14, 2012, 07:46:37 AM
Looks fantastic, considering the size of the game being remade here.  A DQ freak friend of mine often wondered if they'd be able to justify a remake of DQ7, given just how large it is and the potential audience for any given DQ remake.

I really wonder if they're going to do an English version, though.  It's by leaps and bounds the largest script of the series, and pretty much nothing from the old translation is worth using, if they even have the translation around anymore given how much things changed after its original English release (Heartbeats closing down, Enix America getting dissolved).  Very big job and even Nintendo's got to be shy after how poorly DQ6 and Monsters Joker 2 sold.
DQ7 might luck out due to release timing. After Tomb Raider in March, Square Enix's NA branch has nothing on their release schedule aside from their mobile games and the continuous alpha testing of FFXIV. So some of these japanese titles might luck out and be released as an attempt to fill out their release schedule and keep their localizers busy, at least until the holiday titles like Thief 4.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 14, 2012, 07:55:38 AM
the old NA script is garbage, borys. please please please god let  this be translated. looks SO GOOD.
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Post by: tiesto on December 14, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
Looks fantastic, considering the size of the game being remade here.  A DQ freak friend of mine often wondered if they'd be able to justify a remake of DQ7, given just how large it is and the potential audience for any given DQ remake.

I really wonder if they're going to do an English version, though.  It's by leaps and bounds the largest script of the series, and pretty much nothing from the old translation is worth using, if they even have the translation around anymore given how much things changed after its original English release (Heartbeats closing down, Enix America getting dissolved).  Very big job and even Nintendo's got to be shy after how poorly DQ6 and Monsters Joker 2 sold.
DQ7 might luck out due to release timing. After Tomb Raider in March, Square Enix's NA branch has nothing on their release schedule aside from their mobile games and the continuous alpha testing of FFXIV. So some of these japanese titles might luck out and be released as an attempt to fill out their release schedule and keep their localizers busy, at least until the holiday titles like Thief 4.

I'm getting really antsy on both DQ7 3DS and Bravely Default. A few years ago SE were pretty good in terms of localizations but it seems like ever since they bought out Eidos and got a case of westabooism they don't give the US any of the goods from the Japanese side. It's so sad to see how far SE has fallen this gen.
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Post by: demi on December 14, 2012, 11:58:34 PM
I dont see why it wouldnt come over. Nintendo has to publish something... lol
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Post by: Himu on December 15, 2012, 12:13:58 AM
Looks great but fuck shards. Thankfully this version has a cheat mode in regards to them. I was so pissed when I saw shard pieces I didn't want to buy the game anymore until it showed the part where the bug helps find shard pieces.

Seriously, if this were like DQ7 vanilla, I wouldn't buy it. Because fuck shards, fuck grinding, and fuck 30 hours until you get classes.
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 12:21:01 AM
Looks disgusting, a pity.
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Post by: Freyj on December 15, 2012, 12:24:40 AM
Looks great but fuck shards. Thankfully this version has a cheat mode in regards to them. I was so pissed when I saw shard pieces I didn't want to buy the game anymore until it showed the part where the bug helps find shard pieces.

Seriously, if this were like DQ7 vanilla, I wouldn't buy it. Because fuck shards, fuck grinding, and fuck 30 hours until you get classes.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/197152-dragon-warrior-vii/faqs/15145

Shard no longer an issue.
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Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2012, 03:41:00 AM
Looks a lot better than I expected.

Looks so so good. Would be a reason to get a 3DS for me, if it comes over to Yurop or even USA.

Looks fantastic, considering the size of the game being remade here. 

Looks goooooood

Looks great

Looks disgusting, a pity.

One of these is not like the other.
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Post by: archnemesis on December 15, 2012, 03:48:55 AM
It looks better than the PS1 version, but it's still not a pretty game.
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Post by: Himu on December 15, 2012, 03:54:09 AM
gets my nipples hard. that's all i need. looks better than dq9 and more akin to dq8 fa sho.  has lots of charm, what's to hate?
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Post by: archnemesis on December 15, 2012, 04:34:37 AM
My beef is mostly with the art, not the graphics. Throwing more money at the project won't fix that.
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Post by: Himu on December 15, 2012, 04:37:33 AM
The art is standard dq, dude.
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Post by: archnemesis on December 15, 2012, 04:38:38 AM
I know, and I think it's bland and boring.
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Post by: Himu on December 15, 2012, 04:42:29 AM
DQ...looks..bland? And...boring?
 
Okay!

Anyways, trailer has my favorite scenario (of what I've played, never beaten 7, too long, too grindy, shards): using the elixir to cure the stone sickness in that one village.

:bow ADVENTURE :bow2
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Post by: Himu on December 15, 2012, 05:03:15 AM
Most jrpg fans feel the same way about DQVII, Borys.
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 05:42:30 AM
Looks a lot better than I expected.

Looks so so good. Would be a reason to get a 3DS for me, if it comes over to Yurop or even USA.

Looks fantastic, considering the size of the game being remade here. 

Looks goooooood

Looks great

Looks disgusting, a pity.

One of these is not like the other.
It looks disgusting, I foolishly expected more. 

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Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2012, 07:04:08 AM
what on earth were you expecting?

FF7r-quality realtime graphics, yo. GET WITH THE TIMES SQUARE, GOSH
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 07:09:21 AM
nm, not interested
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 07:41:14 AM
I posted some ugly words and thought better of it :'(

Was hoping for beautiful 2D sprites not the 3D nightmare I see, DQ games have never really been lookers (obvious example apart) but yeah wanted the chars to look good at least. Something resembling Phantasy Star Generations (sans ugly art style) for a visual.


(http://www.gagagames.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/psg1-20100508-185407.png)


Not a fan of Toriyama's gokuh face art either but that is something I am always willing to look past for DQ.

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Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
Why even post then?  I mean, I'm honestly interested what you expected a 3DS remake of one of the largest JRPGs of all-time to look like, given outside one region, sales expectations are 50k or less?

It's the second-best looking game in the series.  If you were hoping for better than that, then your hopes were indeed foolish.

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I know DQX Wii isn't exactly a looker, but wouldn't its res alone put it over this? Not to mention the HD version... Agree with the general point though.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 15, 2012, 09:30:34 AM
Was hoping for beautiful 2D sprites not the 3D nightmare I see

Uh...so you were hoping for a graphical style that's totally different from all the other DQ remakes and totally different from even the original release of DQ7...?
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 09:35:32 AM
The original DQ7 was 2D sprites on 3D or am I remembering wrong?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on December 15, 2012, 09:47:11 AM
The original DQ7 was 2D sprites on 3D or am I remembering wrong?

Yes, which was not the same graphical style as Phantasy Star Generations, which you were apparently hoping for.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 15, 2012, 10:44:30 AM
I WANT THIS INSIDE ME

I WANT IT ALL THE WAY INSIDE ME
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 12:04:46 PM
The original DQ7 was 2D sprites on 3D or am I remembering wrong?

Yes, which was not the same graphical style as Phantasy Star Generations, which you were apparently hoping for.
I was only taking about the chars
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Post by: Himu on December 15, 2012, 01:49:45 PM
Don't like 2d on 3d, never have.

Don't understand the big deal, they animate well, they have the same amount of charm they have in 2d.
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 15, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
Looks fantastic, considering the size of the game being remade here.  A DQ freak friend of mine often wondered if they'd be able to justify a remake of DQ7, given just how large it is and the potential audience for any given DQ remake.

I really wonder if they're going to do an English version, though.  It's by leaps and bounds the largest script of the series, and pretty much nothing from the old translation is worth using, if they even have the translation around anymore given how much things changed after its original English release (Heartbeats closing down, Enix America getting dissolved).  Very big job and even Nintendo's got to be shy after how poorly DQ6 and Monsters Joker 2 sold.
DQ7 might luck out due to release timing. After Tomb Raider in March, Square Enix's NA branch has nothing on their release schedule aside from their mobile games and the continuous alpha testing of FFXIV. So some of these japanese titles might luck out and be released as an attempt to fill out their release schedule and keep their localizers busy, at least until the holiday titles like Thief 4.

I'm getting really antsy on both DQ7 3DS and Bravely Default. A few years ago SE were pretty good in terms of localizations but it seems like ever since they bought out Eidos and got a case of westabooism they don't give the US any of the goods from the Japanese side. It's so sad to see how far SE has fallen this gen.

SE wants to make money boo boo.

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How are those IOS/GREE announcements working out for you? :teehee
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Title: Re: DQ7 comes to 3DS. Game over, Sony, game over.
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
Give me one example of a 2d on 3d rpg that doesn't look like shit.

I'm not sure if you realize, Momo, but they are using the SAME environments from DQVII psx, giving them some polish, and putting 3d characters on them.

Haha, momo prefers this because he's a homo.

(http://i.imgur.com/5zfNs.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UUeEH.jpg)

over this

(http://i.imgur.com/kT32H.jpg)

HAHAHHAHAHA
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 02:32:30 PM
I'd prefer fully 2D ala Phantasy Star above, would alternatively take 2D on 3D ala Valkyrie Profile and OG DQVII above. That third picture above is pig disgusting, remind me of PSX era 3D.
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 02:37:49 PM
Give me one example of a 2d on 3d rpg that doesn't look like shit.

There is a lot more charm here than the 5 poligon, single textured face of doom above.

(http://psoneclassics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Breath-of-Fire-4-screenshot.jpg)
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Post by: Tasty on December 15, 2012, 02:39:16 PM
Looks disgusting, a pity.
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 02:40:10 PM
Looks disgusting, a pity.
(http://lparchive.org/Breath-of-Fire-IV/Update%2019/24-Breath_of_Fire_IV_01032.jpg)
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Post by: Momo on December 15, 2012, 02:45:21 PM
(http://www.kotowari.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9-Breath_of_Fire_IV_02598.jpg)


You guys should just go on and discuss the game now, I've lost interest in the remake so addressing my taste in graphics-I-want-on-limited-hardware-or-budgets is irrelevant.
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Post by: tiesto on December 15, 2012, 04:32:18 PM
Looks fantastic, considering the size of the game being remade here.  A DQ freak friend of mine often wondered if they'd be able to justify a remake of DQ7, given just how large it is and the potential audience for any given DQ remake.

I really wonder if they're going to do an English version, though.  It's by leaps and bounds the largest script of the series, and pretty much nothing from the old translation is worth using, if they even have the translation around anymore given how much things changed after its original English release (Heartbeats closing down, Enix America getting dissolved).  Very big job and even Nintendo's got to be shy after how poorly DQ6 and Monsters Joker 2 sold.
DQ7 might luck out due to release timing. After Tomb Raider in March, Square Enix's NA branch has nothing on their release schedule aside from their mobile games and the continuous alpha testing of FFXIV. So some of these japanese titles might luck out and be released as an attempt to fill out their release schedule and keep their localizers busy, at least until the holiday titles like Thief 4.

I'm getting really antsy on both DQ7 3DS and Bravely Default. A few years ago SE were pretty good in terms of localizations but it seems like ever since they bought out Eidos and got a case of westabooism they don't give the US any of the goods from the Japanese side. It's so sad to see how far SE has fallen this gen.

SE wants to make money boo boo.

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How are those IOS/GREE announcements working out for you? :teehee
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Yeah, because Heroes of Ruin, Sleeping Dogs, Mindjack and Front Mission Evolved were such big hits :P
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 15, 2012, 04:42:56 PM
Looks fantastic, considering the size of the game being remade here.  A DQ freak friend of mine often wondered if they'd be able to justify a remake of DQ7, given just how large it is and the potential audience for any given DQ remake.

I really wonder if they're going to do an English version, though.  It's by leaps and bounds the largest script of the series, and pretty much nothing from the old translation is worth using, if they even have the translation around anymore given how much things changed after its original English release (Heartbeats closing down, Enix America getting dissolved).  Very big job and even Nintendo's got to be shy after how poorly DQ6 and Monsters Joker 2 sold.
DQ7 might luck out due to release timing. After Tomb Raider in March, Square Enix's NA branch has nothing on their release schedule aside from their mobile games and the continuous alpha testing of FFXIV. So some of these japanese titles might luck out and be released as an attempt to fill out their release schedule and keep their localizers busy, at least until the holiday titles like Thief 4.

I'm getting really antsy on both DQ7 3DS and Bravely Default. A few years ago SE were pretty good in terms of localizations but it seems like ever since they bought out Eidos and got a case of westabooism they don't give the US any of the goods from the Japanese side. It's so sad to see how far SE has fallen this gen.

SE wants to make money boo boo.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
How are those IOS/GREE announcements working out for you? :teehee
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Yeah, because Heroes of Ruin, Sleeping Dogs, Mindjack and Front Mission Evolved were such big hits :P

So you want to beta test those "goods" on 3DS for forty bucks when you should just waif for the discounted definitive mobile versions :teehee

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Oh wait I take that back Japan doesn't understand DD so it still will be forty bucks :japancry
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Title: Re: DQ7 comes to 3DS. Game over, Sony, game over.
Post by: tiesto on December 15, 2012, 05:00:11 PM
I don't think anything without a d-pad could be considered "definitive", touchscreen controls SUCK for games. So I'll be fine with my 3DS games instead of waiting 2 years in hopes of a shitty iphone port which doesn't even control properly and still costs the same as the 3DS version :P
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Post by: D3RANG3D on December 15, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
I don't think anything without a d-pad could be considered "definitive", touchscreen controls SUCK for games. So I'll be fine with my 3DS games instead of waiting 2 years in hopes of a shitty iphone port which doesn't even control properly and still costs the same as the 3DS version :P

Definitive by added content and Highres etc, and what in a menu driven JRPG's can't you do with a touch screen  :lol
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Post by: Himu on December 29, 2012, 08:38:19 PM
OMG

(http://i.imgur.com/4JhRS.jpg)

On the minimap, shards appear now. The closer you big, the more the game tells you HERE'S A SHARD.

yes yes YES YES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WGHeQw49ws
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 29, 2012, 10:52:37 PM
real gamers search every pot and talk to every npc multiple times so they never miss a thing
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Post by: Himu on December 29, 2012, 11:06:30 PM
Real gamers also appear to enjoy searching two dungeons for one shard just to continue apparently aka real gamers are idiots aka masochists
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Post by: Himu on December 29, 2012, 11:09:37 PM
I remember one shard where you had to talk to npcs in the right order just to get the share. You're a taco.
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 30, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
loud and proud