made a new topic for this show because why not, also fuck you
heres some trailers and shit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1pbtBX9Kok
more trailers:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCQnSokNfXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pR1kjJBE_s
also heres the deus ex musics trailer I forgot to post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XSeW4B5Rg
:drudge
MARK what book your spoilers are from.For instance...
"I hope..."
ADWD spoiler
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blah blah blah
S3 will cover half of ASOS, I don't want people being spoiled with discussion on what might be left out this season.
:drudge
anyway heres some coo book spoilers for this season if you cant wait (im an expert):
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robb and catelyn stark visit a nice wedding and nothing bad happens to them
bran literally hides in a tower and does nothing all season
jaime lannister takes up juggling and falls in love with brienne because of stockholm syndrome
tyrion lannister marrys a 13 year old and everybody is cool with this
dany becomes a slave owner because three dragons isnt enough power already
ser jorah gets friendzoned
put this in the OP btw, near top
MARK what book your spoilers are from.For instance...
"I hope..."
ADWD spoiler
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blah blah blah
S3 will cover half of ASOS, I don't want people being spoiled with discussion on what might be left out this season.
Also :bow The Unsullied :bow2
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no mention of keeping a puppy for years and forced to kill after they bond with it? We've already seen knights killing babies. They didn't show how different the unsullied were from knights.
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I'll preface by saying I recognize the show isn't the book and I'm not a purist, but the Catelyn rubbed me the wrong way because it was out of character. Above all else, Catelyn loves her children. Perhaps the biggest reason she has always hated Jon is because he could be a potential threat to her children, specifically Robb. The idea that she would at one point want Jon legitimized as a Stark, and thus placed ahead of all her children except Robb, is ridiculous. She has never loved or trusted Jon, and it goes far beyond jealousy, which is how the show dwelled on. It has nearly everything to do with protecting her natural born children.
Last night's episode sets up some potentially troubling changes. Once she finds out Bran/Rickon are allegedly dead, will she agree to Robb naming Jon his heir? That would be ridiculous to me. I know people believe Robb ultimately decided to name Jon his heir but I still don't believe it; he had a history of disagreeing with his mother privately before ultimately taking her side publicly, so I can't help but think he named a Royce or another distant relative as the heir.
I don't think so. Catelyn at that point is an emotionally wounded and flat out lost woman. That said the show HASN'T delved in her guilt over the fact she's the one who pushed Ned to going to Kings Landing to begin with.
Remember when in GoT (book) where she tells Jon to get out because "he's the one who did that to Bran"? Catelyn is an emotional beast who is illogical to a fault. I don't think that scene is put of character for that reason.
Actually she tells Jon she wishes he was the one who fell. And that sums up her thoughts on him throughout the series.
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I don't see why the writers have decided for Catelyn/Robb not to learn about Rickon and Bran allegedly dying, it really makes no sense. That revelation is what sparks the reactions that doom the Starks, from Catelyn releasing Jamie out of a mother's desperation to Robb sleeping with Jeyne. So far the show has completely ruined all of this. Not only has the show failed to do anything interesting with "Talisa" or even deliver a believable love story, Catelyn's decision on Jamie makes no sense.
One thing I don't like about that
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The Edmure/Riverrun change almost trivializes how much of a fuck up his decision was; Edmure literally lost the entire war for both Robb and Stannis by fucking that up. I knew the lack of Riverrun stuff in S2 would lead to some type of butterfly effect and I guess this is it. Killing the Mountain certainly is an important thing...but it's rather small when compared to delaying Tywin/winning the entire war.
And another thing: it reminded me of how poorly the show has handled Robb. Why haven't we seen him planning and strategizing? The episode makes Edmure's screw up sound like a big deal, but a new viewer might be confused and wonder why it was never mentioned before. Robb could have had scenes in S2 planning this with his generals, talking to Catelyn about her brother (to figure out what type of man he was, and if he was trustworthy), etc. It strikes me as a missed opportunity.
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I thought they wasted an opportunity with Catelyn. I thought she was going to bring up how she has waited for every single man in her entire life, but then they made it about Rickon and Bran again. And once again, assuring her that HEY THEY COULD BE ALIVE which goes against the entire point of her actions in the later sections of ACOK/s2
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Too bad she goes to shit in book 5 :smug
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Which, again, is why her turning into an indecisive fucktard teenage girl in book 5 when she's in total FIRE AND BLOOD mode in book 3 is so fucking disappointing. AND YOU KNOW THIS.
Dany is one of my favorite characters in book 3!
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Which, again, is why her turning into an indecisive fucktard teenage girl in book 5 when she's in total FIRE AND BLOOD mode in book 3 is so fucking disappointing. AND YOU KNOW THIS.
well I'm guess you are glad (ADWD spoiler)
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she learns what she is and isn't by the end of ADWD, just when she 1) learns how to control her dragon 2) happens to run into a khal she promised to burn alive.
Having seen Barriston's TWOW chapters it's clear Dany is about to fuck some shit up, assuming Victarion doesn't steal her dragons
Dany is one of my favorite characters in book 3!
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Which, again, is why her turning into an indecisive fucktard teenage girl in book 5 when she's in total FIRE AND BLOOD mode in book 3 is so fucking disappointing. AND YOU KNOW THIS.
well I'm guess you are glad (ADWD spoiler)
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she learns what she is and isn't by the end of ADWD, just when she 1) learns how to control her dragon 2) happens to run into a khal she promised to burn alive.
Having seen Barriston's TWOW chapters it's clear Dany is about to fuck some shit up, assuming Victarion doesn't steal her dragons
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That's awesome. It doesn't change the fact that having to sit through her chapters in ADWD sucked sour ass. Everyone is stupid in ADWD... Dany is all "I'm just a simple teenage girl, tee hee!" and Jon Snow is all "let me send away everyone who is an ally and surround myself with idiots" Really the only thing that redeems the book are Tyrions chapters. The book is on par with AFfC as the worst in the series.
I thought this episode featured some of the best changes and new scenes that have appeared in the show thus far. Varys' backstory was done great, but the addition of the revenge story took the scene to an entirely different level. Very good exposition - with no breasts! And since I'm on the topic of Varys I have to mention his scene with the Queen of Thorns/Diana Rigg, who continues to be one of the best additions to the cast.
And of course that scene led to one of the other changes I liked: Margery's scene with Sansa. So far Margery has been perfect this season, and I'm glad they changed the marriage proposal to be Loras (a character the TV audience is well familiar with) instead of his brother, who hasn't been in the show. Having Varys mastermind all this is great. I suppose it takes away a bit of the Queen of Thorn's scheming from the book, but I still liked it given the nice chess game the show has developed between Varys and Littlefinger.
some minor observations:
-I liked the scene with Beric but I feel like it could have been much stronger if the character was talked about in previous seasons. S2 did feature some talk about the Brotherhood, but it seems like having some scenes with Tywin, the Mountain, or townsfolk discussing him could have made his eventual reveal more impactful for non-viewers. I'd imagine many watched that scene and were like "Ned Stark told him to do what? Ohhh..."
-The Theon stuff...eh. I'll wait for it to play out. I know where it's going, and like the changes in theory, but I kind of feel like he should have been imprisoned longer before being released.
-I felt the Bran scene came out of nowhere. It wasn't bad but it felt tacked on given how developed the other stories in this episode were.
-Ros' scene...wasn't bad. Would have preferred something else but hey, at least I didn't roll my eyes; even though the continuation of this Pod stuff...ha don't know whether to laugh or shake my head
-Nice scene with Tywin and Cersei
IMO the King's Landing scenes continue to be some of the best and most focused in the series this far. Which IMO bodes well for the show if it gets to AFFC. (AFFC spoiler): spoiler (click to show/hide)
Margery is already such a strong presence that her competition with Cersei will make for good television. Likewise Jaimie will have a lot of great content in that season too. Too bad Varys won't be in that season, he's been so amazing thus far on the show. But who knows, perhaps they'll decide to keep the Queen of Thorns in King's Landing, that would be cool IMO
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he's resurrected by Thoros
Should you really be clicking on spoilers without abandon in a thread like this?
Can't help it. When you guys say "book spoilers" or name a future book though, I avoid them.
yeah, people hide jokes and other stuff in spoiler boxes. if it's marked as a book spoiler, at least you know that it's a book spoiler to be avoided.
and this is a question for book readers, but I don't want spoilery answers, if possible
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I read that season 3 covers half of book 3 and parts of book 5?
what part of this season are book 5, exactly? the Bran storyline?
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Season 3 covers half of book 3, and Season 4 will be the other half of book 3. The book is the longest in the series to date, and lots of stuff happens, so the decision was made to split it into multiple seasons.
Should you really be clicking on spoilers without abandon in a thread like this?
Can't help it. When you guys say "book spoilers" or name a future book though, I avoid them.
yeah, people hide jokes and other stuff in spoiler boxes. if it's marked as a book spoiler, at least you know that it's a book spoiler to be avoided.
and this is a question for book readers, but I don't want spoilery answers, if possible
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I read that season 3 covers half of book 3 and parts of book 5?
what part of this season are book 5, exactly? the Bran storyline?
You're right, this season is half of book three plus one arc from book five.
In response to your question (no spoilers:)
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The Theon stuff doesn't happen until book five. Book three does note that he is being tortured by someone, but you don't actually see any of his ordeal until ADWD. By that time in the books he's been in captivity for about a year or so
Episode SPOILER pic (not a book scene)
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/2b22ace576c396ca886c5850fdba7615/tumblr_mlyno1cYHt1rxciqbo1_500.jpg
That is Selyse locked in her room, with a bunch of Stannis' stillborn male babies in jars. Yeah.
Someone has been watching too much Walking Dead.
that episode
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The seeds of the RW being planted :D
:punch :punch :punch :punch :punch
TEAM TARGARYAN
AND TEAM JON SNOW
pointless book speculation ahoy
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That's redundant, bro :smug
Himu- why are you treating anything lager ever says as anything other than just the shittiest trollery imaginable? He's about as useful as a tv in a coffin.
Yeah, you're wrong Diunx. He sends Davos to the dungeons. Also, he does regret doing that to Renly at the end of season 2 especially since he was unable to capture King's Landing. To Stannis, Renly was a sacrifice for justice. Which falls in line with Stannis' characterization in the books. Don't whitewash Stannis' atrocities either. He does plenty of "evil" or questionable things. Just like all the other kings. I really disagree with your description of Stannis being characterized as evil, as well. I hate that word in general when discussing ASOIAF but especially for grey characters like Stannis. I think last night's episode did its best in trying to portray Stannis as an actual person and was more in line with his book personality: hard, but caring; just, even towards himself.
Speaking of
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When are we getting the leech burning scene? I thought we were going to get it this episode due to all the fire shots. I thought it'd make a wonderful ending vignette. But then I remembered the Melisandre isn't there
uhhh he did send Davos to the dungeon in the book dude.
I'm a Stannis fanboy but I understand why others may find him boring.
He send him there for some time to teach him one of his weird lessons not to let him die there.
dude I'm re-reading it right now
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He comes back to Dragonstone to kill Melisandre, and the minute he steps into the castle he's arrested for treason.
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and then freed a couple of days later, it was obvious that Stannis had no intention to kill him in the book, on the show he tells his daughter that Davos is gonna rot in a dungeon, it fucks up their relationship imo and it was a stupid and unnecesary change
We don't see anything from Stannis' perspective in the book. It is all from Davos' perspective. So we can't say what happened off screen. I think you're being overly pedantic in your tv show criticisms. I'm with you on a lot of stuff, but this seems like grasping at straws. Then again, Stannis is your favorite character, right? Jon is mine, and I thought the scene last night was rushed and not deserved due to the lack development towards it like it was in the book, but it was still beautiful and great to the point where I'm pretty satisfied as a Jon fan. You have to make some concessions, Diunx.
I was really happy that they kept Ygritte's "Let's stay here in the cave together and never leave" line.
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It shows that they're setting up her final "You know nothing, Jon Snow..." line, which for me is the most heartbreaking moment of the series. As good as Season 3 is, the final half of Season 4 has a chance to be the most incredible television since The Shield Season 7.
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I hope that they don't have Jon accidentally kill her or some thing. But they probably will.
Gotta say I'm baffled at the Ros stuff. Glad she's dead obviously, but given how long they dragged her story on I figured the payoff would be bigger. I thought
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She was going to go to the Eyrie with Littlefinger, replace the role of Marlillion and be blamed for Lysa's death.
However the thing I'm wondering about:
(ASOS, AFFC)
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This means Davos will save Gendry, and after that...what does Gendry do? In AFFC he's still a member of the Brotherhood and saves Brienne. So I'm guessing Davos will sail Gendry back to mainland Westeros, at which point he'll wander around...I guess. Or perhaps they could have him join Brienne's search party in the AFFC season. She had a pretty shitty POV, but having Gendry and sexual tyrannosaurus Podrick Payne as companions could be interesting.
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she means that arya will don different "eyes" or names then lose herself. Which is required of a faceless man. More than that, it could be literal considering arya goes blind.
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given Arya's connection with the FM and their connection with the Red God
not liking the book changes as usual but
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Brienne's AFFC adventures
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Cersei has green eyes :whoo
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Sam and the dragon glass
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Red Wedding? Doesn't really seem that there's enough after that in the book for another 10 episode season.
edit: Nevermind, I can see them totally stretching it out to make it work.
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Judging from the name of episode 9 and 10 ("Rains of Castamere" and "Mhysa") I'd expect we'll get through the Red Wedding and Dany's next liberation
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Judging from the name of episode 9 and 10 ("Rains of Castamere" and "Mhysa") I'd expect we'll get through the Red Wedding and Dany's next liberation
I'm just curious what they'll end the season with. spoiler (click to show/hide)
Seeing Robb murdered and Catelyn thrown into the river would be a great final scene, but it sounds like they'll move past that if the episode titles are any indication.
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The mute, "dead" Catelyn leading the brotherhood?
ASOS spoilers and minor AFFC spoiler
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Dany capturing Yunkai and marching for Mereen, Jon returning to the Wall (Queenscrown is in ep9), Bran and company entering the Nightfort/perhaps meeting Sam, and Davos reading Mormont's letter.
Next season will be the Purple Wedding, Tyrion's trial/escape, Dany conquering Mereen, the battle at Castle Black, Coldhands, Sansa arriving at the Eyrie/Lysa Arryn murder, etc. It will also add some AFFC material, which IMO will translate well. So far the show has done a great job with all the King's Landing scenes, which bodes well for the Cersei v Margery stuff in Feast.
Next season should be even better.
Worse yes, but I agree with Zeph that it is the best written of the series. However there is a lot of material that I don't think television viewers will find interesting, such as the monologue about war and honor. It also features characters that I can't imagine viewers giving a shit about, to put it lightly. However....
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Victarion and Euron could be fucking amazing if done right. Ray Stevenson as Victarion, Kevin McKidd as Euron. DO IT HBO
ASOS
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Arya/Nymeria pulling Catelyn out of the river. Catelyn will not be revived until the end of next season as one of the best things about Storm is that you end up thinking the Lannister's have won...until the Purple Wedding and Tywin being murdered. If you revive Catelyn this season it gives the audience hope. The audience should not HAVE hope.
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How will they give the Martell and Tyrell feud credence without Willas who was crippled by the Red Viper?
Speaking of Willas
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How will they give the Martell and Tyrell feud credence without Willas who was crippled by the Red Viper?
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Maybe the Red Viper Fucked Loras up the arse turning him into a fabulous flowering knight.
i don't think i'm spoiling but those debates are tiring so i'll tag my post.
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sam's first scene in the last episode must be relevant this week right? i thought they were going to use it last week.
melisandre taking gendry is the first time i've been really happy with a change from the book. it makes total sense (and also implies that grrm has nothing planned for the character beyond what he's already written) to eliminate edric storm. also how do y'all pronounce his name? with a hard g or a soft? i heard it with a soft g for the first time last week and it sounded hell of wrong. but apparently GIF is pronounced with a soft g so maybe i just cannot pick where they're appropriate.
THAT EPISODE WAS GREAT.
Let's get down to it.
- Fucking Tormund Giantsbane is ACTUALLY TORMUND GIANTSBANE in this episode and not an imposter.
- Tralalalalalaladay omg :rejoice
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Building up Talisa and Robb relationship is WONDERFUL. Making her pregnant is GREAT. She is going to the Red Wedding? OMG. Jeyne Westerling was just a puppet, an excuse to have Robb dishonor Frey, but Talia being with child, and going to the wedding as well fucking SEALS IT. I'm on board especially since there's no Dacey Mormont to get the axe to the stomach. Instead, Talisa will be the first to go, with an axe to her pregnant stomach. Shit will be REAL and emotional and I already know what's coming and it's making this even BETTER. I feel the same way about Jon and Ygritte. I said before that they did a bad job forming their relationship prior to the cave, but they're doing a great job now of establishing their relationship and it will be really sad when she dies.
- DAENERYS STORMBORN IS AT YUNKAI'I, (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vpE6uMJ37dk/UOScrne47aI/AAAAAAAAEL4/Ki-4IWO-SoY/s1600/ron-paul.gif)
- They fucked up with the bear scene. Also,"I only rescue maidens" and "It's Jaime, not kingslayer" were noticeably absent. The bear pit scene was one of my anticipated scenes this season and I was disappointed. Not by the bear part, that was good. But Jaime leap. The book passage contains my favorite piece of writing in the series, and they failed to translate it on to the screen. More shots of Jaime staring at the pit, not sure what to do, and his jump should be accentuated. It's the leap of change in Jaime fucking Lannister and they botched it. YOU CUNTS.
“Her name is Brienne," Jaime said. "Brienne, the maid of Tarth. You are still maiden, I hope?"
Her broad homely face turned red. "Yes."
"Oh, good," Jaime said. "I only rescue maidens.”
:rejoice :bow
Still, one of the best this season. :rejoice
How big is it? Mostly interested in the Andals and Dornish (Nymeria in particular) history.
Also want a vast catalogue on the religions of the world, including ones not introduced that the Faceless Men seem knowledgeable about.
SERIES SPOILERS
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Last night I couldn't help but think that Dany's sacking of Yunkai'i was an error, especially as I read ADWD side by side with watching this season. Then again, I seem to be the only one who likes Dany's arc in ADWD. In book three she learns how to be a general, but in book five she learns to become a politician and realizes that simply burning everything in your path isn't the way to be a good ruler. She should have spared Yunkai'i and possibly Mereen and she learns more and more of her errors. Anyone who expected or wants Dany to go to Westeros is missing the point, I think.
YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, TRIUMPH.
spoiler critique:
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Mentioning a character is in a later book could be perceived as a spoiler. Although IMO I think even new viewers can see the title "A Dance with Dragons" and know Dany must still be alive. Still to be safe
It has been delayed to add more stuff, so I'm guessing it's pretty big. So far we mainly know it's going to have a lot of Targ stuff. The concept is that it's a history book written by multiple maesters, each with different styles and opinions that influence their writing.
http://aidanmoher.com/blog/2013/05/asides/george-r-r-martins-the-world-of-ice-and-fire-delayed-until-fall-2014/
How big is it? Mostly interested in the Andals and Dornish (Nymeria in particular) history.
Also want a vast catalogue on the religions of the world, including ones not introduced that the Faceless Men seem knowledgeable about.
SERIES SPOILERS
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Last night I couldn't help but think that Dany's sacking of Yunkai'i was an error, especially as I read ADWD side by side with watching this season. Then again, I seem to be the only one who likes Dany's arc in ADWD. In book three she learns how to be a general, but in book five she learns to become a politician and realizes that simply burning everything in your path isn't the way to be a good ruler. She should have spared Yunkai'i and possibly Mereen and she learns more and more of her errors. Anyone who expected or wants Dany to go to Westeros is missing the point, I think.
YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, TRIUMPH.
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She learns nothing. She learns that she should have trusted her dragons and that she can't be everybody's mama... MAYBE. HOPEFULLY. That's never been my problem. The problem is that he took what was, to that point, an interesting character and made her into an idiot that was boring to read. I used to love seeing Dany chapters next; in book five I quickly got the point where it was "oh great, another fucking chore of a chapter to get through with 'I'm just a stupid teenage girl' and Capt. Daario. Shit was poorly written, breh. End of story.
Second half of ASOS :lawd
Jon Snow :drool
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I wonder who they're gonna cast as the Red Viper? The whole trial and combat between him and the Mountain SHOULD be fucking awesome if handled correctly. It will also be interesting to see the Dornish for the first time.
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Red Viper needs to baller and hot as fuck. I hope the Dornish have Spanish accents like I have in my head when reading the books! :drool Also, we need Conan for The Mountain!
And it will pay off.
Major spoilers if you're a non book reader and you read this you deserve to be castrated.
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because Ramsay will be at the wedding and non readers will blow their minds if they haven't realized he's Bolton's son already and having a guy like that on the "good guy side" (viewer binary) will make them flinch. Birdman.gif I want Ramsay to be the one to strike Talisa in the stomach with an axe and his idea to sew Grey Wind's head on top of Robb's decapitated neck.
Viewers are just getting a taste with Theon.
I always imagined the Dornish as moors.
So Spanish, then. :teehee
Yup. Like I said if the Dornish aren't Spanish I riot. :maf
Not really.
Re: Theon's torture
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It's so much more worthwhile if you've read all the books.
GoT's producer recently said he believes the show can last 7 seasons.
Speaking backstage at the Baftas – where Game of Thrones was also nominated in the International category – Doelger said: “[The number of series] is being discussed as we speak. The third season was the first half of book three, season four will be the second part of book three. George RR Martin has written books four and five; six and seven are pending.
“I would hope that, if we all survive, and if the audience stays with us we’ll probably get through to seven seasons.”
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/05/thrones-producer-well-probably-get-through-seven-seasons/
Werthead (Adam Whitehead) did a speculative breakdown of where the show will go after they finish the Storm of Swords material. I like the last two books but there's no question they feature some content that would be very hard to translate on television. The show is already filming in multiple locations and that would increase later, alongside the addition of multiple characters (some of whom cannot be cut).
Link to westeros.org (contains spoilers):
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http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/87392-book-spoilers-got-producer-expects-at-least-7-seasons/page__st__120#entry4459895
I agree with the basic premise.
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I really like the idea of putting Sam in King's Landing instead of Oldstown; this would also place "Pate"/Jaqen there as well, which would be interesting.
Victarion and Euron would translate well on TV imo, and I'm pretty sure we'll hear about them in tomorrow's episode (which I'm pretty sure will feature the death of Balon).
I'd be fine with sending Osha/Rickon to Castle Black too. It could replace the Dalla plot. No one is going to care about Mance's son being threatened, but Melisandre attempting to burn Rickon would work better; Jon could send Osha and Rickon away in secret, then they head to Skagos.
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We all know what happens next episode. I ask that everyone be very careful with what you post over the next two weeks. Posts like "can't wait to see the tears!" or "dunno if my emotions can handle what's about to happen" are not allowed. As fans you should want people completely shocked at what happens; I don't want new viewers expecting something bad to happen, based off our posts. Please
Lots of positive reactions to this ep, will watch after I finish cleaning the house
Daario is hot as fuck.
What are they gonna do with Gendry at this point? That didn't consume him, did it? Couldn't she have just said, "yo I'ma fuck you, but we're gonna have to do a bunch of kinky shit with leeches."
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Daavos rescues Edric Storm from the flames. He will rescue Gendry.
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can you put that link in spoiler tags. Posts like that make it clear to EB non readers that something is or isn't going to happen[spoiler/]
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Daario looks sickly to me. The Titan's Bastard dude was handsome (pause) tho
ASOS
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So does Talisa going to the RW kind of put an end to the theory that Jeyne Westerling is pregnant with Robb's son. I wanted to believe :'(
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So does Talisa going to the RW kind of put an end to the theory that Jeyne Westerling is pregnant with Robb's son. I wanted to believe :'(
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They mixed Talisa of Volantis and Jeyne Westerling into one character. So um...yeah, that woman is pregnant with Robb's baby and obviously what happens happens in the next episode.
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There are a lot of people who haven't read the books, and these types of posts will only convince them something big is about to happen. Granted every penultimate episode features a major event, and they recognize that, but come on...
quick, somebody link me to the coli thread
http://www.the-coli.com/arcadium/60634-game-thrones-season-3-niccas-*storms-swords*-127.html#.Uav7upzUCrs
I need to go and re-read that chapter again in the book. I may have misremembered some things. Like specifically how Cat discovered what was going on. Was it actually finding the chain-link on Roose?
No
I'll spoil this, perhaps new viewers might wind up reading the books
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Bolton excuses himself from the dinner. Awhile later Catelyn notices that Dacy Mormont asks Edwyn Frey to dance with her, and he violently pushes her away. Catelyn runs up to him to grab him, then realizes he's wearing chainmail. Ryman Frey and the others open the door, battle axes in hand, and start killing everyone.
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Ramsay had been the one to slit Cat's throat. Hell, I would have even had HIM say the line to her right before he does it.
I found Jon's stuff to be pretty underwhelming again. Seemed very abrupt to me. Hell given how Jon and the direwolves killed so many wildings it seemed like Jon could have just stayed and killed everyone else.
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Now I'm wondering where his arc will end. I have a bad feeling it's going to end with him warning the Wall, preparing to face Ygritte/Tormund's men, maybe give an inspirational speech...then save the battle for next season. That's going to be very disappointing, especially considering S2 ended on a similar note (Others about to attack the Fist, fade to black).
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I highly doubt we get the battle at the wall next week.
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I really fucking hope Stoneheart isn't the last scene. It would cheapen the impact of the wedding to have her revealed so quickly. By the time that happened in the book I was completely shocked.
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show Robb's army being killed in the collapsable tents Frey had set up. Not a big deal but it's just a specific detail I remember from the book and thought it would pretty clearly convey what was going down.
I agree on the importance of them breaking bread not coming across as well as it should have, maybe they didn't want to
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overplay Catelyn's trepidations in the beginning of the episode so that the turn would be more shocking. Still, I wish they'd established it in one of the preceding episodes similar to how they had Cersei explain "Rains of Castamere" to Margery. In the books it really comes across that the Laws of Hospitality are the one thing you don't fuck around with.
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Zombie Catelyn!
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they are going to fuck up the battle of castle black, one of my favorite parts. Jon also wasn't shot by an arrow. I thought they should have done that to make the audience go NUTS and think Jon was dead too after watching the RW then next episode he's still kicking because HE'S THE BEST STARK.
Without spoiling it is that it for big surprises this season or is there more to come
I'd just say the show is about halfway though the third book, and there's plenty more to come.
:rejoice the greatest fantasy novel :rejoice
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Too bad that after next season it'll just be Dany's Continuing Fuck-ups in Mereen
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There's a fucking annoying Lannister stan over on the coli, and I can't wait for next season to shut him the fuck up
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PS- Himu is right on the money about Robb. What a knobend.
yeah, I was planning on starting book 3 from the beginning. I'll give reading through 1 and 2 a go, since the version I'll pick up includes them anyway, but the events of Season 2 weren't all that exciting and I'm not eager to revisit it in the text.
The second book is a lot better than what they did in S2, trust me. If you skip it I'd at least suggest you read Dany's House Of The Undying chapter and the Blackwater battle. Just so you can see how the largest events differed from the show.
And a note (This spoiler is safe but I'll hide it regardless, since it's book info. You can highlight it without worries):
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when you start the third book Dany will have someone in her group of advisers named Arstan Whitebeard. He's Barriston Selmy incognito. The show revealed him outright instead of including that plot; you'll learn why he hid himself later in the book.
Honestly, Tywin worship weirds me out. Guy is a tyrant.
It's Game of Thrones man, not the Babysitter's Club.
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Also Charles Dance. Man the Lannister's really lucked out in the casting department.
Fuck that.
Arya is second best. But yeah, she's cool.
I actually really like the Stark's, even Sansa (well, book Sansa). They're probably my fave family, but man do their ideals come and bite them in the ass.
Can't wait for show watchers to finally jump on the Jon bandwagon after they fucked up the character in seasons 2 and 3. :bow
You just like Jon better cause you wanna fuck him :P
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I'm really hoping Sansa's character arc will improve and that she'll become totally evil and manipulative at Littlefinger's hands and then connive to get revenge on the Lannisters, but after the last two books I'm honestly not sure Martin's capable of anything cool anymore. I also hope Jaime doesn't get killed, as his is my favorite character arc in the entire series, but eh- history has told me not to get too attached :P
Wow, didn't realize Veep had such low viewership :'(
Yeah, that really sucks. It's the best show on HBO right now.
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Well OK one of the best but still.
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By far the most disturbing image in the series.
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THAT EPISODE. :rejoice
Game of Thrones season finale was perfect. They completely redeemed themselves for messing up Arya's crappy arc in season 2 and now Arya actually has character development she should have had a year ago. I can't BELIEVE they showed the head sewing scene. Having it mentioned in passing in the books is :-X but actually seeing it! WOW! Also, REEK!!! This season finale is a Song of Ice and Fire book nerd's wet dream. SO HOT
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NO LADY STONEHEART :bow :bow :bow :bow
D&D have BALLS. Not even a HINT. Fucking RESPECT.
GreyRobb looks pretty great. Much better than the production stills.
Episode was pretty good.
But.
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show the Brothers finding Cat. Not revealing Lady Stoneheart but just them finding her floating in the river and maybe a shot of Thoros to hint
I know I know, but it would have made for a much more dramatic punch followed last week over the ending we currently have. Plus it would have flowed well following Dany's scene considering the context.
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I wanted them to show Arya using her warg abilities. Do the other Stark children have warg powers in the show or is it just Bran? I think it's pretty important that Arya pulls Cat out of the river for the Brotherhood to even find. Plus, it shows the tv viewers what Nymeria has been up to.
/end rant
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i really don't care but it is kinda weird they changed something like that
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They wasted so much time with Theon that could have gone somewhere else. IMO this half should have featured the attack on the Wall and Ygritte's death. Then next season you start with them preparing for the bigger battle; the producers have mentioned that they believe the show will have a massive battle every other season, so with that in mind the Wall battle will be huge. I'm not sure how long they can stall Jon's story next season before getting to the battle. I really hope Stannis doesn't show up at the Wall in episode 9, for instance, because there's simply not enough material to stall like that. Ygritte should die in the S4 premier or within the first four eps, then have the huge battle in ep 5 or so? Jon's arc would end with him becoming Lord Commander.
The Purple Wedding seems like it should be ep 4 next season. HBO tends to send out DVD screeners that include four episodes, the last of which features a big moment to impress the reviewers; what better way than to kill Joffery in the fourth episode. The rest of the season would be Tyrion preparing for trial, the trial, Gregor v Red Viper, Tywin's death (ep9?), and the finale being Tyrion on a ship heading for Dany (trollolol)
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the initial widling skirmish attack on the Wall. It would have given the episode more of an emotional thrust with the death of Ygritte, and also set up for the bigger battle next season.
I liked Davos' scenes but Stannis felt completely off, then that final scene...wow. "The war of the Five Kings doesn't matter anymore, let's go to the Wall." :lol
Didn't like the Arya scene either. As I predicted last year, the butterfly effect reared its ugly head.
Definitely one of the worst written episodes too. Eh. Oh well, next season will feature some awesome stuff. Seems like they're making some pretty big changes to the Greyjoy stuff which will be interesting, but I wonder if viewers will give a shit about any of that.
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I wonder if they're gonna accelerate the stuff in the North, skip over some shit and maybe have a lot of Book 4/5 stuff happen next season?
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They pretty much have to, if Bran is going to appear for instance; maybe they'll reveal Coldhands in the season premier. How everything else plays out will depend on how fast they move Stannis. I feel like the big battle at the Wall could happen by the fourth episode, meaning Stannis will arrive then. I don't believe next season will feature the "Arya" wedding for instance, although I can imagine it'll be discussed. I could see the big Manderly "The North Remembers" reveal happening, because otherwise what will Davos do all season? Maybe he'll go to the Wall with Stannis briefly?
S5 will probably be the "Arya" wedding and the Winterfell battle. Also tonight's Rat King mention convinces me that they'll include the Frey pie thing, which should be fun.
I have a feeling they're going to stretch a lot of shit out. 1/3 of ASOS is left, and while it's pretty titanic stuff clearly they're adding filler (Yara lol). Joffery better die within the first four episodes, and the Wall attack better not be the ep9 big moment sigh...
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With a rack.
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The most anticipated new role coming to the fourth season of Game of Thrones has been filled.
Prince Oberyn Martell will be played by Chilean actor Pedro Pascal, who has previously had arcs on CBS’ The Good Wife, ABC’s Red Widow and USA’s Graceland.
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Oberyn is a brash, charming, cunning prince of Dorne (part of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros). His sister Elia was brutally murdered by the Lannister knight Gregor “The Mountain” Clegane when Mad King Aerys was overthrown by Robert Baratheon and the Lannisters. In season four, Oberyn comes to King’s Landing with revenge on his mind.
Also: Nearly every Thrones character has a nickname and Oberyn has one of the coolest: The Red Viper.
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“The Red Viper is sexy and charming, yet believably dangerous; intensely likable, yet driven by hate. The boys love him, the girls love him, and he loves them all back. Unless your last name is Lannister. We found a fellow who can handle the job description and make it seem effortless. He wasn’t easy to find and he won’t be easy to stop.”
HBO hasn’t yet announced its Comic-Con plans, but if you’re headed to San Diego, it’s safe to assume Thrones will have a presence this year. Game of Thrones returns in 2014.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/06/28/thrones-red-viper-oberyn/
I like. Alas I'm guessing we're going to get some...ASOS spoiler
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bad gay sex scene, or maybe a bisexual threesome to really drive the point home
link to westeros wiki in spoiler tags, don't click it has spoilers
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http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Oberyn_Martell
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This seems to mean they'll be delaying the Wall battle until episode 9, which is baffling. Assuming the initial skirmish/Ygritte's death occurs within the first four episodes, how the hell are they going to stretch things out for the remainder episodes until the ninth? Maybe some "preparing for battle" scenes, plus the initial arrow attack? That would work to highlight that the battle occurs over the course of many days I guess, but I still fear they'll place some boring filler in there.
If I had to guess a skeleton outline of the season...
EP1 - Red Viper introduction, Jon warning Wall of ambush, wedding prep, Mereen*
EP2 - Mereen champion vs...whoever replaces Strong Belwas. Hopefully Barriston, more likely Daario
EP3 - Ygritte's death?
EP4 - Purple Wedding, Sansa escape
EP5 - Tyrion trial prep, Mance arrives at Wall
EP6 - Tyrion's trial, arrow attack on Wall, Jorah betrayal revealed
EP7 - Jorah/Barriston/Grey Worm infiltrate Mereen sewers
EP8 - Red Viper v Mountain
EP9 - Battle on Wall, Stannis arrival
EP10 - Tywin's death, Lord Commander Snow, Queen Dany, Stoneheart
*I think the show will give Dany a reason to go to Mereen. Many viewers are under the assumption that she "won" and thus will be going to Westeros after that S3 ending. If she merely waltzes to Mereen to free slaves again, I think people will be disappointed. Perhaps the best way to handle this would be to have a Mereen assassin attempt to kill Dany in EP1, and in the process either kill one of her friends (Missandei?) or capture someone. It would be a change, but ASOS does feature an attempt on Dany's life (Mero, who was killed off in S3). That would give her a quite a revenge motive, and give the first episode a nice cliff hanger.
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the wall battles justice. :(
I'm worried they won't do
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the wall battles justice. :(
Not worried considering Marshall is directing.
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Obviously the scope will be reduced like the Blackwater, due to it being impossible to film exactly what happens in the books on a TV budget. But it'll be awesome I'm sure, and with Marshall being confirmed so early he'll have time to plan for the shoot - unlike with the Blackwater ep, where he was literally a last minute hire after the previous director had to bail out.
I wonder if it'll be shown from multiple perspectives. Jon was on top of the Wall for most of the battle while Noye defended the gate; meanwhile Bowen Marsh defended the Bridge of Skulls and was injured. Not sure if Noye will be cast but I'm sure there will be some type of giant fight.
Indira Varma cast as Ellaria Sand
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More casting news, hot off the presses! James Hibberd of Entertainment Weekly has reported that Indira Varma will join the cast as Ellaria Sand in season 4 of Game of Thrones. Ellaria Sand is the paramour of Prince Oberyn Martell aka “The Red Viper”, who was also recently cast. She will accompany her lover when he arrives in King’s Landing this season.
Indira Varma should be familiar to fans of HBO’s Rome as she played Niobe, the wife of Kevin McKidd’s Lucius Vorenus. She is the third Rome veteran to join the cast, following in the footsteps of Ciarán Hinds and Tobias Menzies who were added last season. Like most of the cast, her acting roots are in theater but she has since moved into television. In addition to her starring turn on Rome, Varma has also appeared in Bones, Luther and Human Target.
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/07/indira-varma-cast-as-ellaria-sand/
Recently a fan accidentally drove through an area where the show was filming in Belfast and saw
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Gwendoline Christie/Brienne and Daniel Portman/Podrick on set. Confirms we'll see AFFC material
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One thing I wonder about the Varma casting
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She's a pretty noteworthy actress and has had some good roles. Ellaria Sand isn't a particularly noteworthy character in the books though, which makes me curious about what the writers plan on doing with her; this wouldn't be the first time they "over cast" someone (see: Littlefinger) though.
I'm sure she'll have a (bisexual) sex scene with the Red Viper this season, and be looked down upon for being a bastard, but what else is there for such a good actress? This makes me wonder whether the writers are replacing Arianne with Sand. IE Sand will leave King's Landing after Oberyn's death, and begin the plot to crown Myrcella; it would make sense, and give her a very personal reason for wanting revenge.
I like Arianne as a character but believe she is completely disposable. While her brother is a specific plot device (presumably to cause Dorne to turn its back on Dany), Arianne isn't that important. Especially if the writers find a way to make Ellaria Sand the heir to Prince Doran. Some might argue Arianne is necessary because she might marry "Aegon" who has just captured Storm's End; she's on her way to negotiate with him.
IMO it doesn't matter: "Aegon" is allegedly Doran's nephew, he'll have to support him regardless of whether he agrees to a marriage.
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pm me your email for further info ;)
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is it the scene where the trial by combat occurs
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Dany's? SHe's already been betrayed for blood. So why not introduce it?
love videos like this
dat budget. Won't get easier
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Lady Waynwood cast
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More news from the Vale! According to her CV, Paola Dionisotti has joined the cast of Game of Thrones as Lady Anya Waynwood for the show’s fourth season.
The actress is best known for her work with the Royal Shakespeare Company, most recently in productions of King John and Richard III. On British television, Dionisotti played recurring roles on Harbour Lights and Forever Green, and guest-starred on programs such as Doctors, Midsomer Murders, and Poirot.
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the head of her house, and sworn to House Arryn of the Vale, much like Bronze Yohn Royce whose casting was revealed last week. Similar to Royce, she was not present in A Storm of Swords, but it appears that the lords and ladies of the Vale are making their collective presence known early.
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In other casting news, Gabrielle Dempsey will be playing the part of an Innkeeper’s Daughter in the first episode of season four, according to her CV. A 2010 graduate of the Central School of Speech and Drama, this will be Dempsey’s first television role.
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/09/lady-waynwood-cast/
Sounds like they're moving a lot of AFFC material into this season which makes sense. It's easily the most...controversial novel in the series but I think it's a perfect fit for television. The show has never been pure action, and I think a lot of the dialogue and character moments in AFFC will translate very well.
On the Innkeeper's Daughter...(ASOS spoiler)
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guessing they'll be re-introducing The Mountain to the audience, to put it lightly. Good idea to reinforce his character before the duel.
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Three-Eyed Raven cast
It looks like a mysterious figure from beyond the Wall will be making an appearance on Game of Thrones in season 4. According to his agency resume, British actor Struan Rodger has been cast in the role of the Three-Eyed Raven.
The character (called the Three-Eyed Crow in the A Song of Ice and Fire novels) is connected to Bran Stark and his quest for understanding the visions that have come to the boy since he was pushed from the tower at Winterfell.
Rodger is a familiar face in British film and television, turning up in programs such as Chandler & Co., Rumpole of the Bailey, The Thick Of It, and Law and Order UK. He memorably lent his voice to two episodes of Doctor Who as the Face of Boe. His film credit highlights include Kill List, Stardust, Young Adam, Chariots of Fire, Four Weddings and a Funeral, and The Madness of King George.
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http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/three-eyed-raven-cast/
Didn't see that coming. Does this mean S4 will get some lore dialogue on Bloodraven? I figured the show would include Bran and company finding the cave, because if not he'd having nothing to do for a season. Still I wonder how far they'll go. A little kid was cast a month ago, and some speculated she might be Leaf. Makes a lot of sense now.
Also: where's Coldhands?
Sounds like they're moving a lot of stuff up then.
Massive spoiler casting news. I'll tag it :mindblown
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A Dance With Dragons spoilers
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Three-Eyed Raven cast
It looks like a mysterious figure from beyond the Wall will be making an appearance on Game of Thrones in season 4. According to his agency resume, British actor Struan Rodger has been cast in the role of the Three-Eyed Raven.
The character (called the Three-Eyed Crow in the A Song of Ice and Fire novels) is connected to Bran Stark and his quest for understanding the visions that have come to the boy since he was pushed from the tower at Winterfell.
Rodger is a familiar face in British film and television, turning up in programs such as Chandler & Co., Rumpole of the Bailey, The Thick Of It, and Law and Order UK. He memorably lent his voice to two episodes of Doctor Who as the Face of Boe. His film credit highlights include Kill List, Stardust, Young Adam, Chariots of Fire, Four Weddings and a Funeral, and The Madness of King George.
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http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/three-eyed-raven-cast/
Didn't see that coming. Does this mean S4 will get some lore dialogue on Bloodraven? I figured the show would include Bran and company finding the cave, because if not he'd having nothing to do for a season. Still I wonder how far they'll go. A little kid was cast a month ago, and some speculated she might be Leaf. Makes a lot of sense now.
Also: where's Coldhands?
Sounds like they're moving a lot of stuff up then.
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And people doubted me when I said we'd see ADWD material this season. Now all we need is Jon chopping off Slynt's head during episode 10 and I'll be totally :jawalrus.
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Octavia Alexandru’s role revealed
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Thanks to an update to the young actress’s modeling résumé, we now know what role Octavia Alexandru will be playing in the fourth season of Game of Thrones. Her casting was first discovered in July on her agency’s web page.
Alexandru’s role involves material from A Dance with Dragons, and is therefore considered serious SPOILER territory!
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According to her résumé, Alexandru will be playing the Child of the Forest, as many had speculated when her casting was uncovered. The Children of the Forest are a legendary people of Westeros, strange creatures that appear childlike but are in fact quite old.
Ours is the Fury: WinterIsComing had speculated that she might be Leaf from ADwD, and it seems like with her introduction this year, Alexandru’s Child might be an equivalent of that character. The timing is right, with the Three-Eyed Raven popping up next year as well. Alexandru’s extensive dance experience will lend itself well to creative body language for the forest creature.
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/11/octavia-alexandrus-role-revealed/
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So she'll be Leaf. Wow, they're going all out with Bran's story. Still no Coldhands news though.
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Bran's story is the best (most interesting) in my opinion
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Yup. In terms of "holy shit" moments for TV, I can't wait for the scene where the wights start popping out of the snow and Bran wargs Hodor. That's going to be crazy.
BTW I have a feeling Bran just might be on the wrong side. Bloodraven never struck me as a "good" guy.
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Perfect time to bring Sean Bean in if they're already going this far.
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It's also due to him not having much of anything to do unless they moved material from book 5 into this season. He has the fewest chapters of any major character.
It really makes me wonder what they'll do in S5, if the next book isn't out yet. They'll be completely done with Bran's story by the end of S4, which will start in late March/early April 2014. Shooting for S5 will likely begin in July, which is when previous seasons began shooting. If TWOW is not out yet...? There's no way Bran simply won't appear in the season. I know Martin has already told the writers where the story is going, so they'll pretty much have an idea. But will Martin give them notes of Bran's upcoming story in TWOW?
Best case scenario: TWOW comes out in 2014. Martin has said it's possible, although he hasn't guaranteed or promised 2014. Interestingly, his schedule is completely blank from mid December to May 2014. I think he's going to attempt to finish the book in that time, and shoot for a summer or fall release.
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Has the tv show even mentioned the children of the forest beyond season 1 and Old Nan's tales yet? Here's hoping they tell the story of the Crannogman next season.
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Another show problem: the complete absence of certain mysteries, conspiracies, and prophesies are going to make later revelations seem like they came out of nowhere which may turn off viewers. I think you guys know who I'm talking about, but there's also the issue of the big "twist" in ADWD and how viewers will deal with it given there hasn't been any set up.
GRRM used to say that if he died before the series was done, tough- he apparently uses some archaic word processing program and won't let anyone else access his files or some shit. Can't remember where I read that, but it was forever ago (ie- pre show) so that's likely not the case anymore.
PD- what twist are you talking about in ADWD?
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John getting "killed?" That was set up pretty well I thought- he sends everyone loyal to him away and constantly refuses to listen to any other Night's Watch dudes.
Creepy Old Guy:
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The Aegon reveal. People have been expecting a (most likely fake) Targaryen to show up since the House Of The Undying prophesy, which was not in the show. I have a feeling many people are going to consider it a cheap twist. Hell some folks who read the book even felt it came out of nowhere, although the clues were in the first two books (in GoT, Varys and Illyrio's plot to bring Viserys and a Dothraki khalasar of savages to Westeros doesn't make much sense, without a second card up the sleeve).
I think it's pretty clear Aegon isn't "Aegon," and is actually a Blackfyre. And that's another piece of the story which the show hasn't delved into.