Getting on eShop like the digital luminary I am. :aah
So the digital version costs the same and doesn't come with the giant box full of stuff the retail one does?
Here's another unboxing from Destructoid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsuLjH9PA1Y
why the fuck is andy doing smt4 digital when he JUST dropped is 3ds and clearly needs a new one or to send his current one to nintendo
why the fuck is andy doing smt4 digital when he JUST dropped is 3ds and clearly needs a new one or to send his current one to nintendo
He's young and obviously dumb as fuck (nintendo only gamer)
Any 3ds emus yet?
Any 3ds emus yet?
This one is pretty solid according to GBAtemp. (http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-3DS-XL-Red-Black/dp/B008GEH8LQ/)
Any 3ds emus yet?Where there DS emus?
why the fuck is andy doing smt4 digital when he JUST dropped is 3ds and clearly needs a new one or to send his current one to nintendo
why the fuck is andy doing smt4 digital when he JUST dropped is 3ds and clearly needs a new one or to send his current one to nintendo
Why would that impact what I buy? ???
How much is everyone going to laugh the day Andy's 3DS dies and he loses all of his games cause Nintendo?
What's the advised procedure in case the drop causes the system to crap out-- buy a new one and send both to Nintendo?
I mean, on the one hand it's incredibly inconvenient, but on the other it could be a lot worse... Like asking you to ship it via homing pigeons.
How long are said warranties, a year?
news for Andrex and likely no one else: buying SMT4 and Fire Emblem on eshop nets you $30 credit for your next purchase
not a bad deal if you're committed to the 3ds fishbowl
I'm pretty certain this is a digital only thing. They have to pimp eShop.
They are not going to just up and give out $30 for physical buyers. Sorry.
Go to GameStop and "borrow" a code ;)
And realise how poor you have become
http://club2.nintendo.com/30/
Looks like it works with physical copies.
http://club2.nintendo.com/30/
Looks like it works with physical copies.
Andrex re-annihilated. :bow2 $30 e-shop credits, here I come! :bow2 :bow2
Does it work if you've already reg'd FE?http://club2.nintendo.com/30/
Looks like it works with physical copies.
Andrex re-annihilated. :bow2 $30 e-shop credits, here I come! :bow2 :bow2
And you'll be buying what with those eShop credits, exactly?
Does it work if you've already reg'd FE?http://club2.nintendo.com/30/
Looks like it works with physical copies.
Andrex re-annihilated. :bow2 $30 e-shop credits, here I come! :bow2 :bow2
And you'll be buying what with those eShop credits, exactly?
Phoenix Wright 5 :fbm
Does it work if you've already reg'd FE?http://club2.nintendo.com/30/
Looks like it works with physical copies.
Andrex re-annihilated. :bow2 $30 e-shop credits, here I come! :bow2 :bow2
And you'll be buying what with those eShop credits, exactly?
Phoenix Wright 5 :fbm
:heh :mynicca
Fucking NINTENDO. Trying to get my eshop purchases recognized on the chat line and this is what they say.
"We are glad you are contacting us regarding this topic. However, this chat support is mainly for online connectivity issues. We still want to answer any questions that you have. Give us a call at 1-800-255-3700. We are available from 6 am to 7 pm Pacific Time, seven days a week. Please write this number down because it will be gone once this chat ends. Thank you for using Nintendo Tech Support! "
::)
Ah shit, I bought digital Fire Emblem but didn't do the survey or whatever, and it expired. The site recognized that I did buy the game but do you actually have to take the survey to get credit? Might have to do something...
according to the site, the $30 credit is given as a code that could be used the 3DS or Wii U (or sold?)
Wii U owners can use it to buy
So if I didn't do the Product Registration Survey for Fire Emblem I'm not going to get credit?
Fuck this shit
So if I didn't do the Product Registration Survey for Fire Emblem I'm not going to get credit?
Fuck this shit
Nintendo said that as long as you redeemed the code, you are good.
Overall, I loved the hell out of Shin Megami Tensei IV. While the writing has problems (some of which I couldn’t discuss), and there are some gameplay issues, it does a lot of things right and gives you an epic amount of content to tackle. The side-quests are great, a lot of the themes are clever, the battle and fusion systems are better than ever, the look of the game is great, and–outside of the overworld–the game’s world is a delight to explore. This entry might still scare some new players away, but it is much more accessible than past iterations and is the perfect RPG to play through this summer.
I find that the difficulty in Shin Megami Tensei IV is its greatest feature. Like Demon’s Souls and Etrian Odyssey, you’re compelled to throw yourself back into the action, just to prove that, yes, you can defeat that demon without ever needing to restart or revive. What makes that difficulty tolerable is Atlus’s commitment to clever combat systems and easing the penalty for dying. Having the freedom to explore and try new (and sometimes risky) strategies in battle is such an addictive yet satisfying experience. I do not regret the possible hundreds of hours I am going to continue to lose to Shin Megami Tensei IV, and I hope it has the power to win over newcomers to the franchise. I like quirky, demon-summoning high schoolers as much as the next Persona fan, but you haven’t truly experienced a Megaten game until you’ve tried to wrap your mind around the infamous conversation system.
Just learn to save.
http://www.destructoid.com/review-shin-megami-tensei-iv-257718.phtml
Good news everyone! Dtoid writer is an SMT vet and really likes the game and says the early portion of the game brings it.
:rejoice
I've got the biggest videogame boner for this, I am so fuckin hyped it's not even funny
EVERYONE DANCINGU :usavich
I'm shopping around on Amazon and Ebay for a 3DS to play this game. It'll be the first handheld I ever own.
(http://i.imgur.com/WfVwXUll.jpg)The box looks really nice. I may buy this and waig a couple of years until a 3DS is dirt cheap.
:noah
I'm shopping around on Amazon and Ebay for a 3DS to play this game. It'll be the first handheld I ever own.
BUY SOUL HACKERS
And maybe Strange Journey, I couldn't really get into that one because Antarctica is kind of boring
(http://i.imgur.com/WfVwXUll.jpg)The box looks really nice. I may buy this and waig a couple of years until a 3DS is dirt cheap.
:noah
This is just the general first edition box right? No, CE thats $10 more or something.
Dont forget to use your DLC to unlock the power of AMAZON
http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/15/img13/video-games/hqp/SMTIV-DLCAmazonFront.jpg
UPS was too stupid to leave my box at the office so I'm not playing this today, thanks dipshits
The negotiation system is actually pretty terrible in this one. Yeah it's funny, but when the same reply with the same demon gets you two completely different outcomes (happens most of the time) it's just so random that at like 15 hours in I decided to just mash A and keep picking the first choice on negotiations until it gets to bartering, which I do manually. Surprisingly that works like 50% of the time to recruit them.
The negotiation system is actually pretty terrible in this one. Yeah it's funny, but when the same reply with the same demon gets you two completely different outcomes (happens most of the time) it's just so random that at like 15 hours in I decided to just mash A and keep picking the first choice on negotiations until it gets to bartering, which I do manually. Surprisingly that works like 50% of the time to recruit them.
but you said it was baby easy himu-chan
OUT FOR DELIVERY
OST, Strategy and Design book. :aah
I'm assuming the more demons I have in my party the less xp I earn after battles as it's an even split, correct?
Also, I've just hit level 10 and I'm unsure how to spend my app points. So far I've spent them on +1 MC skill slot, +1 demon skill slot, and 6 demon party slots. The latter which I regret, I shouldn't have spent that many. So what's the consensus on most worthwhile upgrades this early in the game?
Hmmm, tip for beginners:
- When Burroghs starts allowing you to buy your own apps, concentrate on demon related ones first. Concentrate on Demon Skill +1 the first few levels. I concentrated on Expand Stock and talking related apps at first, and that was a mistake because the demons I fuse have REALLY good skills lists and I can only pick from four skills. It probably seems best to mix it between demon skill +1 and and skill expansion 1 (for the mc). By the time you get to Tokyo, both demons and your mc should have a full skill list, allowing you to concentrate on talking apps for the time being, and that's when talking gets important beyond scouting anyways.
Really wish you could reallocate app points.
Yea, my Skyward Sword box was smooshed. I complained and got some money back.
Guys, get this. How come I'm the only one playing? I'm so sorry that I was angsty and dismissive towards this game pre-release. If SMT4 were a person, I would kiss its feet.
Guys, get this. How come I'm the only one playing?
Quote from: Jinfash;71311166I'm assuming the more demons I have in my party the less xp I earn after battles as it's an even split, correct?
Also, I've just hit level 10 and I'm unsure how to spend my app points. So far I've spent them on +1 MC skill slot, +1 demon skill slot, and 6 demon party slots. The latter which I regret, I shouldn't have spent that many. So what's the consensus on most worthwhile upgrades this early in the game?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71311166&postcount=4323
....Hmmm, tip for beginners:
- When Burroghs starts allowing you to buy your own apps, concentrate on demon related ones first. Concentrate on Demon Skill +1 the first few levels. I concentrated on Expand Stock and talking related apps at first, and that was a mistake because the demons I fuse have REALLY good skills lists and I can only pick from four skills. It probably seems best to mix it between demon skill +1 and and skill expansion 1 (for the mc). By the time you get to Tokyo, both demons and your mc should have a full skill list, allowing you to concentrate on talking apps for the time being, and that's when talking gets important beyond scouting anyways.
Really wish you could reallocate app points.
:beli
how does this compare to strange journey?
Speaking of story, the general consensus is that it's underwhelming, but I've found the setting /really/ interesting. Nothing out of the ordinary but still interesting. The VA is also not half bad. They've clearly invested in this, more than I thought they would.
Unless the story tanks half way I'm not seeing why the reviewers think the story is bad so far.
SJ didn't have tension? Are you sure you played through that whole game, Himu-chan, or are you just guessing again?
Unless the story tanks half way I'm not seeing why the reviewers think the story is bad so far.
I'm only a little ahead of you (done with Shinjuku and Ikebukoro total; you'll know when you get to the "major story point" that I'm just past), but while I like the story the fact that everything is so black & white on LAW & CHAOS is definitely a step back from Nocturne or even Devil Survivor that had like 3-5 paths to choose from.
I really hate the Strange Journey approach of "THIS IS THE LAW GUY AND HIS FACTION, THIS IS THE CHAOS GUY AND HER FACTION, PICK ONE OR THE OTHER OR MAYBE END UP NEUTRAL". It's so videogame-y. I prefer a bunch of different characters and philosophies and an outcome that is tuned to the choices that I make in the game.
In SMTIV from what I can tell halfway through the game:spoiler (click to show/hide)You either agree with Gaia & Walter "STRONG EAT WEAK" Chaos, or the Asa~~~ and Jonathon and "GOVERNMENT RULES" law" and that's about it. Very much like SJ's setup which is a shame. SMT should be more complex and deep than that.[close]
Otherwise I like the writing.
Devil Survivor's paths were stoopid and vague
Demi what are some demon evolutions? I was expecting pixie to evolve into high pixie but then I saw high pixies portrait on the special demon fusion chart.
So I really want to fuck around with "Gun" skills but I'm confused, a "Gun" skill is something that uses magic, right? In Soul Hackers I pretty much ignored Magic and threw everything into Physical/Gun, but this seems different (as there's no ammo, or at least not yet)
Just wondering how I should be allocating EXP, don't wanna fuck myself over yet
I've been putting most of my points towards Ag and Dx, though my stats are not as skewed as some of the people on GAF. For instance, this is just too extreme:
(http://i.imgur.com/MY40UP4.jpg)
My build looks almost the same as that pic at lvl.35
St: 42
Dex: 18
Ma: 110
Ag: 88
Lu: 20
Only reason I have St so high is those items that give stat points. Otherwise just been pumping almost evenly into MA & AG since I'm a magic build and AG is for dodge/hit rate.
is this game like persona or something?
I'm having trouble beating the Terminal boss at Shinjuku. Dude just inverts my asshole. The guide says he's weak to status effects, but nothing is sticking.
is this game like persona or something?
Reached Ginza. Found a monster with Mediarama, gonna whisper that over to me with the quickness.
Feelin comfortable with my group, plus I seem to get 6000+ XP now all of a sudden.
I'm surprisedJinfashis playing, I think I see him asking enough questions to just have someone spell it out for him.
The world map needs something that shows what district is what. Having to guess the entire land to find a specific building in a specific region is distinguished mentally-challenged.
This coupled with the narrow walkways means unnecessary encounters with weaker enemies. Just a huge waste.
The world map needs something that shows what district is what. Having to guess the entire land to find a specific building in a specific region is distinguished mentally-challenged.
This coupled with the narrow walkways means unnecessary encounters with weaker enemies. Just a huge waste.
In Japan, everyone knows the layout of Tokyo!
Also, everyone here bought auto-weakness-attacking-auto-battle and just presses L for 90% of normal battles, right? Takes care of your 2nd issue mentioned since battles are like 10 seconds. I only manually fight new enemies in each dungeon to figure out their weakpoints. Once I've fought all the new enemies in a dungeon I just use the L button and for all back-tracking, world map, questing I just use L.
BTW, Guns suck dick.
Just use skills like Arrow Shots (or whatever its called) instead.
I equip an elemental for a free turn, that's about it.
Wow, you guys are crazy. No offense man, but auto-weakness battle is the biggest "new" big ticket item that SMTIV brings to the SMT series and the genre as a whole. That's why the magazines were making a big deal about the new addition before the game was released.
It completely changes how SMT games are played. It's like a whole different game where there's no grinding, no grunt battles, only survival battles and boss fights. Just totally different pacing. I couldn't imagine playing SMTIV without it.
Once you hit a decent level (~10 or so), it's pretty much the must have application that you need. Playing without it, is like playing without auto-mapping.
In the Cathedral of Souls, CHECK the box that says "Search Compendium" -- this means when you search for fusions, it takes into consideration any previously captured demons
BTW, Guns suck dick.
Just use skills like Arrow Shots (or whatever its called) instead.
I equip an elemental for a free turn, that's about it.
So, I've never played a SMT or Persona game before. Maybe I'm just a lame-o baby gamer, but man, this game is hard as fuck. I think I died about five times just during that introductory series of quests. What have I gotten myself into, here? And no, I'm not dropping the difficulty down!
haven't seen this many people playing an smt game at once before. excited for npd.
haven't seen this many people playing an smt game at once before. excited for npd.
you can probably thank persona 4 for that.
Really good news. When I made the neogaf DDS2 official thread in 2005, it lasted four pages.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2030717#post2030717
The audience has really grown since then.
So, I've never played a SMT or Persona game before. Maybe I'm just a lame-o baby gamer, but man, this game is hard as fuck. I think I died about five times just during that introductory series of quests. What have I gotten myself into, here? And no, I'm not dropping the difficulty down!
Doing OK in battle. The fights are definitely similar to Persona 4 but with added concepts like, Smirk... which I'm not sure what does.Short version: Smirk greatly increases your attack, magic, and hit (almost doubles them). There's also an 80% chance enemy attacks will miss and/or you land a critical.
I don't like enemies spawning right as I enter an area :maf
Just picked up a 3DS on ebay. I'm going to try to cop this game next.
If I loved Nocturne, will I like this one?
One of my demons was blown away in a battle and is checked as "lost" on the sumon screen....how do I get him back?
WRONG NICCA
Even Beezy is joining in the fun :rejoiceI played Strange Journey for a good while on the DS, but never finished it.
and he's never played an smt
CAN'T WAIT FOR NPD
It's pretty obvious that Neutral route is correct route. They do a great job telling you how much of a piece of shit you are on the other paths.
Plus there is unanswered questions that are never brought up.
I'm in the mood for some more SMT though. Maybe play Strange Journey or fire up Nocturne.
It's pretty obvious that Neutral route is correct route. They do a great job telling you how much of a piece of shit you are on the other paths.
Plus there is unanswered questions that are never brought up.
Sounds like it's usual for SMT. I'll be sticking with neutral then.
General app advice - I've focused everything thus far on Skill Expansion for protag and Demon Skill +x. This seemed smart because more skills getting more powerful from more monsters having more skills when combined = fuck yes.
Confirm / deny?
You will know where the bad end is. But I will spoiler the boss name where you know it isspoiler (click to show/hide)King Kenji - save BEFORE this[close]
Bad ending is actually not an "ending" - its more of a "oops, wrong choice" - if you select the correct choice it goes beyond that to the other paths.
So it is technically 3 playthroughs needed.
SOOOO... why would someone have said you need to select it to 100% the game? Does doing the bad end actually unlock or, um, do anything? Do you get to do a new game + after the bad end?
General app advice - I've focused everything thus far on Skill Expansion for protag and Demon Skill +x. This seemed smart because more skills getting more powerful from more monsters having more skills when combined = fuck yes.
Confirm / deny?
Max out skills for both you and demons, this is a must when doing fusions, or whispering.
Would you prioritize either of the two or just get the cheapest one as available?
Demonlingual is the skill you mean, demi. Not Negotiation.
This game makes Persona 4 pooplog. I hope they use this as basis for P5.
Having the MC be able to die makes SMT4 probably the best SMT game ever
Fuck Persona 3 and 4 for introducing this shitty mechanic
Just play the translated ROMz
It's such a shame that all the people here enjoying SMT4 likely haven't played SMT1+2. One of my fave things about 4 are all the nods to 1 and 2: the bars with the denizens you talk to, Kichijoji, the demon icons, the city littered with demons in a cyberpunk setting, the factions. A lot of this goes over your head if you haven't played the games before 3, and especially 2. 4 is a true sequel to the SMT2, and I wish we could have an official English release.
Just play the translated ROMz
I have. But it would still be cool to have an official localization of them. Maybe a higher res/streamlined/rebalanced version of the PS1 versions. Maybe some voice acting. :) Or total remakes with the Nocturne art style!
It's just so random that we got Soul Hackers on 3DS but still haven't gotten official SMT I and II releases in the US.
1 is a buggy mess on emulator, I had to go through a lot of hoops and hurdles back in 2005. Good luck. Try bsnes, haven't heard how that works with super famicom SMT games but eh. If that doesn't work try snes9x.
See, that's what I'm worried about - if one doesn't work, I might not find out about it until I'm 20-40 hours into the game. Then my saves aren't worth a damn when I get a different copy of the ROM, when I change emulators etc.
So yeah, it would be nice if the first two games got some kind of release or a remake or something. Since that's unlikely to happen, I guess I'll try my luck.
It's such a shame that all the people here enjoying SMT4 likely haven't played SMT1+2. One of my fave things about 4 are all the nods to 1 and 2: the bars with the denizens you talk to, Kichijoji, the demon icons, the city littered with demons in a cyberpunk setting, the factions. A lot of this goes over your head if you haven't played the games before 3, and especially 2. 4 is a true sequel to the SMT2, and I wish we could have an official English release.
That was exactly my reaction when I got to Ueno in SMT IV. THIS is true MegaTen! Hell, we're getting a remake of the first Etrian Odyssey for fuck's sake. Come on, Atlus! Put that kind of effort into 3DS versions of SMT I and II! (and port Nocturne to Vita ala P4G, please)
Er... I dont think its that complicated. BSNES should shit out anything you feed it.Even fantranslated stuff? My understanding is that BSNES is as close to running it on an actuals SNES as you can get, but when the patches don't play nice with actual machines (through flashcarts or whatever) then that could be a problem. You're probably best off using what the patches makers recommend or have used to test it.
Er... I dont think its that complicated. BSNES should shit out anything you feed it.Even fantranslated stuff? My understanding is that BSNES is as close to running it on an actuals SNES as you can get, but when the patches don't play nice with actual machines (through flashcarts or whatever) then that could be a problem. You're probably best off using what the patches makers recommend or have used to test it.
Nocturne is not about trying to represent Tokyo in any real way. It is about being as oppressive and desolate a game world as you've ever seen.
I would really like to play SMT 1 and 2 though.
It's such a shame that all the people here enjoying SMT4 likely haven't played SMT1+2. One of my fave things about 4 are all the nods to 1 and 2: the bars with the denizens you talk to, Kichijoji, the demon icons, the city littered with demons in a cyberpunk setting, the factions. A lot of this goes over your head if you haven't played the games before 3, and especially 2. 4 is a true sequel to the SMT2, and I wish we could have an official English release.
That was exactly my reaction when I got to Ueno in SMT IV. THIS is true MegaTen! Hell, we're getting a remake of the first Etrian Odyssey for fuck's sake. Come on, Atlus! Put that kind of effort into 3DS versions of SMT I and II! (and port Nocturne to Vita ala P4G, please)
Why Vita when 3ds can easily handle SMT3?
...
Tokyo is pretty much the main character of the main series, given its importance.
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Fuck that, no. I love my 3DS but sometimes I don't feel like playing blown up 240p games.
So I get a quest to kill 5 Calamity Hordes in Naraku. OK, so they are a bit difficult but I manage. I get attack first but they some how get first hit in the battle... lame... but ok. I kill the final one and I'm low on health. So what does the game do? Throws an enemy that's several levels higher and it also gets the first hit and takes out 2 of my guys.
is it worth to create Fiend? The skeleton dude from early on? There aren't any skills he has that I want but I assume he can be used later on to make a stronger demon.
I am getting really sick of doing these quests, I've done almost all of those but others just aren't appearing on the list. I've been ranked #3 for the last 5 hours of gametime. This is pretty shit, I should have just opted for the Law or Chaos endings instead. There's hardly any challenge at this point as I'm pretty much at god levels
By far my least favorite part of the game, especially since Neutral is clearly the true ending of the game. Even story wise it started falling apart at that point where it started really strong for me-- "restore people's hope by doing side quests and filling a chalice with their happy tears." It's too arbitrary of a request even by JRPG standards.
DEEP AND MATOOR PLOT :heh
Rebirth of the Lady. Do all other quests involving Nozomi to get this one. Accept this quest and then go to the cathedral which is north of Kasumigaseki..
The game did start out pretty strong though, more on the back of the atmosphere and setting than a heavy handed narrative. It had more story and character interactions than SMT3 (and the first two based on what I hear), but still nowhere near as much as other JRPGs. It felt very appropriate given the series' roots, retaining almost all the charm and intrigue. Yes, it almost fell apart after the Neutral alignment lock near the end, but then so many other JRPGs do-- they almost never finish strong.
Those end-game quests could've been much worse, such as collecting uguu-juice soaked panties, right magoose?
Atlus stories always struggle towards the end.
See: Catherine
P3/P4
Arguably P2
Others I'm forgetting
The main exceptions I can think of that have a good tail end of the game in terms of story were DDS1 and 2.
Atlus are really bad at late game exposition. This weakness is the worst in Catherine.
I have no clue why Japanese devs are bad at making conclusions and late game expose.
Also shut the fuck up Magus.
Beelzebub was a real bitch.
That's how I eventually got him (alongside Charged Desperate Hits and Tetrakarn?) but something getting 3 Megidolas in one round and wiping all your high level party out made me real sour the first couple of rounds.
What I have heard, but not yet experienced since I'm not back to that point in the game yet after deliberately selecting the bad ending, is that bosses will do nothing but Almighty attacks if your entire party is immune to the type of damage they do.
Playing with Null / Drain / Repel attacks via fusion and armors can make the majority of the game trivially easy, but it's also what will completely fuck you over in the endgame.
Like... 2 minutes after
You can soften the damage. Luster Candy or the usual buff/debuffs.
So yeah, making a lvl.80 party where everyone person has luster candy & debilitate (I think that's what they're called in english version; in Japanese SMT it's always Luster Candy & Randomizer) and then making him -3 at all times and my party +3 with Topping for HP in the 1000s...that was easy lol
BUT
BUT
wtf, I'm stuck now! I've done EVERY QUEST IN MY CHALLENGE QUEST LIST including all 10 VR battles and everything! But I'm still only ranked #2 so I can't progress the story. Uh, I'm guessing all that would be left are like hidden quests? Ones I get from talking to demons or people hidden around the world map? This is going to be annoying finding the last quest or two I need to get to #1 ;_;