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Title: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 25, 2013, 11:41:41 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f5a47f25c760017390eca3d774d16772/tumblr_ms4aio029Q1sp5xmio1_500.jpg)

:kobeyuck

this chick is...ugh
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on August 25, 2013, 11:44:41 PM
what are we supposed to be looking at here, breh?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: StealthFan on August 25, 2013, 11:45:20 PM
White girl with no ass trying to be ratchet. It's so demonic, friends(http://i.imgur.com/s19d9hX.png)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 26, 2013, 12:03:32 AM
the audience reactions are gonna give us some great new emoticons
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 26, 2013, 12:04:53 AM
Is that a vestigial tail
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 12:05:28 AM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/d9aa79c5854908403182bca16a0ee222/tumblr_ms4a9jOcZG1qez34go1_500.png)

VMAs were pure piff this year. I was slayed. Multiple times. Just flat out #mess
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 26, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
the audience reactions are gonna give us some great new emoticons

.gifs are already up, get on it papangus

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lyapalater/the-weirdest-and-craziest-moments-from-miley-cyrus-vma-pe
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 26, 2013, 12:07:51 AM
With shorts that tight, she gone give herself the clap
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 26, 2013, 12:09:15 AM
You can take a woman out of the trailer park but you can't get the trailer park out of the woman.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: ToxicAdam on August 26, 2013, 12:19:31 AM
Somebody needs a career intervention
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: tehjaybo on August 26, 2013, 12:21:16 AM
White girl with no ass trying to be ratchet.

Goddamnit I've been seeing this everywhere lately.  What the good hell does that even mean.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: demi on August 26, 2013, 12:21:41 AM
BrandNew watches the VMAs for the performances :heh
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 12:25:55 AM
White girl with no ass trying to be ratchet.

Goddamnit I've been seeing this everywhere lately.  What the good hell does that even mean.

Ghetto.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: ToxicAdam on August 26, 2013, 12:27:06 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSj-cW-IYAEizZi.jpg)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 12:27:21 AM
Is that Miley Cyrus?

obligatory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f49kd7ht5cU
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: tehjaybo on August 26, 2013, 12:30:57 AM
Why can't we all just say ghetto?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 12:33:14 AM
Because white people took 'ghetto' a long time ago so we had to make a new word.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: tehjaybo on August 26, 2013, 12:36:14 AM
I thought we were more white trash.  Or is that just the redneck folk?  Hell, I'm from Kentucky.  I don't know what's what.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 12:37:37 AM
Even miley's ass is tired of her bullshit that's why it's frowning.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 12:50:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvSLVxZoP54
:dead :dead :dead

:heh
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 01:36:20 AM
https://vine.co/v/hiBx5Z1ll3Z

:dead
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 01:38:14 AM
http://vt.tumblr.com/tumblr_ms4ashGLmI1s7m4k0.mp4#_=_

:dead
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Diunx on August 26, 2013, 01:41:04 AM
lol bramdnew made a trhead about the vmas fucking cigarro.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 01:54:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/duyHGur.png) "Rocky you still want me to re-braid your hair?"
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 01:56:19 AM
I just love Collins' face in that entire exchange :lol
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Positive Touch on August 26, 2013, 01:58:23 AM
ADD THAT EMOTE
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 02:01:09 AM

VMAs were pure piff this year. I slayed. Multiple times. Just flat out #mess
:himu

(http://i.imgur.com/duyHGur.png)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 02:05:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/OHEJTps.jpg)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:10:58 AM
Can we PLEASE please talk about will smith's son and how he puts on the I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ACT as soon as he's on camera

(http://i.minus.com/ibwRm2Yg1HEeuW.gif)

why does he do this
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:19:25 AM

VMAs were pure piff this year. I slayed. Multiple times. Just flat out #mess
:himu

(http://i.imgur.com/duyHGur.png)

(http://abload.de/img/frightenedbabybear6csbq.png)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: nudemacusers on August 26, 2013, 02:33:19 AM
would lick the sweat off that latex ass haters be damned
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Your Stalker on August 26, 2013, 02:44:12 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f2b260140b8e0ab7e1be7e8a2e8310e4/tumblr_ms4cwct0Lu1qkoahto1_500.gif)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:46:57 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f2b260140b8e0ab7e1be7e8a2e8310e4/tumblr_ms4cwct0Lu1qkoahto1_500.gif)

Sad Drake is best Drake
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:47:36 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kUqPvRt.jpg)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 02:57:18 AM
Nah Jaden and his ugly ass sister are just spoiled brats with little talent who have been handed opportunities. Both are trying their hardest to be mainstream hipsters, and failing.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 03:01:16 AM
Fuck off, Karate Kid was legit. Had better fight choreography than the original Karate Kid, Jaden could kick Ralph Macchio's ass, hater.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 03:09:25 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=78342753&postcount=4314

"Where was Azealia Banks...she's from Brooklyn. Probably selling incense just a few blocks away."

(http://i.minus.com/iGOCNnHZt2P66.gif)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: nudemacusers on August 26, 2013, 03:11:38 AM
I just realized I turn 30 in a little under two months.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 26, 2013, 03:35:19 AM
Holy fuck I couldnt even watch the whole Miley thing cause it's so embarassing, like those horrible candidates on X Factor.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Polari on August 26, 2013, 06:38:47 AM
Because white people took 'ghetto' a long time ago so we had to make a new word.

Now you know how the jews feel :wag
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Reb on August 26, 2013, 08:13:14 AM
I missed nothing.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: headwalk on August 26, 2013, 08:24:56 AM
i need some one sheet character guide to this show. it looks awful.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on August 26, 2013, 08:26:53 AM
I didn't know Lady Gaga had a body like that  :whoo
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Brehvolution on August 26, 2013, 09:50:44 AM
I gladly watched a meaningless preseason football game instead.  :obama
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 26, 2013, 09:58:13 AM
I wouldn't say I missed the VMAs...
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Momo on August 26, 2013, 10:26:52 AM
these gifs are slaying me :lol
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Robo on August 26, 2013, 10:42:51 AM
I didn't miss anything; I got the full play-by-play on my Facebook newsfeed.  Thanks, Himuro!  :maf  :yuck
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: demi on August 26, 2013, 10:46:52 AM
I got one of those too on my Facebook, not by Himuro. Must be a LGBT thing.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 26, 2013, 11:26:16 AM
I got one of those too on my Facebook, not by Himuro. Must be a LGBT thing.

Maybe just a bad taste thing.  :leon
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 12:21:31 PM
I got one of those too on my Facebook, not by Himuro. Must be a LGBT thing.

Maybe just a bad taste thing.  :leon

Don't assume anyone takes this seriously.

 :heh
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Steve Contra on August 26, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
Have any older white folks acted significantly appalled to warrant attention?  Has Dr. Phil offered his take on this spectacle yet?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 26, 2013, 02:03:34 PM
According to the article I read on CNN:

Quote
Billboard's Editorial Director, Bill Werde, thinks Cyrus' show was right on target with the direction she's taking her brand -- she is, after all, no longer the teen Disney star she once was.
"Guys, Miley Cyrus is an all-star hot mess for a hot mess pop moment," Werde tweeted. "She doesn't care what u think & that's her brand. & she just delivered."

QED, I guess.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:05:34 PM
Called it. VMAs went for MESS this year.

I already know that guy Bill Werde is gay just reading that sentence. :rejoice the fuckery :rejoice
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Steve Contra on August 26, 2013, 02:06:19 PM
Quote
"She doesn't care what u think & that's her brand. & she just delivered."

                            /
                           /
(http://www.cencom.org/media/ecom/prodlg/bios/Werde_Bill.jpg)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Mupepe on August 26, 2013, 02:12:39 PM
Called it. VMAs went for MESS this year.

I already know that guy Bill Werde is gay just reading that sentence. :rejoice the fuckery :rejoice
He's writing about pop music news.  Of course he's gay!
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:14:15 PM
I need to watch this shit drunk next year
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 02:15:55 PM
http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/jody-rosen-miley-cyrus-vmas-minstrel.html
 :kobeyuck
reminds me of when black people got upset that Eminem *gasp* disrespected black women with the b word. Which is apparently only a major offense when done by a white person.

and in Miley's case no it isn't good for business. She's killing her long term popularity by turning off a lot of her previous white audience. In fact fuck it, I'll just post it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f49kd7ht5cU
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:19:01 PM
but her white audience is mostly made up of twee white girls and twee white girls love that ratchet rap and twerking. they'll eat that shit up. Miley will be the queen of ratchet and we all know those girls need a queen.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 26, 2013, 02:29:33 PM
but her white audience is mostly made up of twee white girls and twee white girls love that ratchet rap and twerking.

This is true.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
True, true. But meanwhile, she has the number one song on itunes. So maybe there's room for both Riri and Miley Cumslut. Also, never underestimate white peoples love for white pop artists, especially in this modern era where people herald fucking Macklemore just cuz he's white. People can and will do the same with Miley, citing she's "refreshing".
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Polari on August 26, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
What is this whole twerking this anyway? When we were kids it was just referred to as some slutty-ass shit.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:36:57 PM
What is this whole twerking this anyway? When we were kids it was just referred to as some slutty-ass shit.

http://youtu.be/kMxof67KkmI
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Polari on August 26, 2013, 02:40:06 PM
Yeah I mean I'm not against it.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
tbh, Miley did a good job. I'm seeing articles pop up about this shit on my facebook even now. Fuck. AND she's got the number one song on itunes and has an album coming up. Anyone who brings up that stupid Charlamagne interview is a doofus. That girl is treating this industry like the mess it is and slaying the pop charts.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 02:52:46 PM
I forgot charting on the pop charts is the only goal worth achieving, and separates the successes from the failures.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Steve Contra on August 26, 2013, 02:58:06 PM
At some point you should ask yourself if seriously analyzing the career choices of Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter is where you want your life to be.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 03:00:43 PM
Eh, it's for fun. Who cares.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: nudemacusers on August 26, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
At some point you should ask yourself if seriously analyzing the career choices of Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter is where you want your life to be.
Yo if someone wants to pay me to write articles about miley twerking sign me up. :phil
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 26, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
Have any older white folks acted significantly appalled to warrant attention?  Has Dr. Phil offered his take on this spectacle yet?

Don't worry, once they get notified of it by Entertainment Tonight and talk radio, they will be.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 03:14:36 PM
Why hasn't Obama addressed this?! He gave a speech about Trayvon Martin but has no time for Miley Cyrus?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Robo on August 26, 2013, 03:24:52 PM
I'm having an old man Harrison Ford moment reading this thread.  whogivesashit.gif
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 26, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
http://youtu.be/HOgj2etJs3Y

 :ohhh
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Raban on August 26, 2013, 03:58:29 PM
http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/jody-rosen-miley-cyrus-vmas-minstrel.html
 :kobeyuck
reminds me of when black people got upset that Eminem *gasp* disrespected black women with the b word. Which is apparently only a major offense when done by a white person.

and in Miley's case no it isn't good for business. She's killing her long term popularity by turning off a lot of her previous white audience. In fact fuck it, I'll just post it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f49kd7ht5cU
That video :dead :dead :dead
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 26, 2013, 05:05:03 PM
Why hasn't Obama addressed this?! He gave a speech about Trayvon Martin but has no time for Miley Cyrus?

"If I had a Backpage.com girl, she'd look like Miley Cyrus."
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 05:20:58 PM
WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 05:22:05 PM
WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condescension is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 26, 2013, 05:24:34 PM
Amanda Bynes can't cater to all black people  :shaq
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condensation is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.

I don't know what Miley is trying to do. I see her trying to cop a bunch of shit instead of being original.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: CatsCatsCats on August 26, 2013, 05:29:17 PM
Ariana Grande lost all cred when she opted out of her high notes during the preshow.

Applause still isn't a great song but Gaga showed she's still a great live performer
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original? :gurl
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: CatsCatsCats on August 26, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Also, I assumed Daft Punk were to perform after the Colbert debacle, was disappointed they didn't. But the video for lose yourself to dance looks rad.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original? :gurl

Yeah but they cover it up by performing worth a shit and some of them are capable of vocal range. Miley is just all over the place. Plus I find the whole "look at me like I'm a sexual being" along with the stuffed animal raver girl stuff kind of unsettling.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: StealthFan on August 26, 2013, 05:36:56 PM
God I wish Katy Perry knew how to dance. She's so fucking hot. I want to see her writhing like a slut ie Beyonce, Old School Spears.

I hate her music videos. They're more goofy than sexy.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 26, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
Cyrus just look lost doing that show, like she has lost touch.

It wasn't raunchy and shocking, it was just sad, embarrassing, out of touch and delusional of what she thinks she is portraying.

This is raunchy done right, miley couldn't do this in a million years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhCD9qxlczo
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 26, 2013, 06:04:04 PM
Keep in mind that Miley's like, 20 or whatever?  Also, she's not from an exceptionally bright family.  Young people tend not to have their shit together, combine that with having the ability to decide what you think you want to do and you get clusterfricks like what happened last night.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:06:58 PM
I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original? :gurl

Yeah but they cover it up by performing worth a shit and some of them are capable of vocal range. Miley is just all over the place. Plus I find the whole "look at me like I'm a sexual being" along with the stuffed animal raver girl stuff kind of unsettling.

I agree. It's stupid. But it apparently worked. :yeshrug I'm not arguing quality here, but on the fuckery scale, Miley's performance is an 11.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 06:15:26 PM
How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:18:49 PM
How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 26, 2013, 06:20:58 PM
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/8/26/9/enhanced-buzz-30399-1377524888-17.jpg)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 26, 2013, 06:31:20 PM
I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original? :gurl

They're all different takes of Madonna, who I think copied off of drag culture.

They're just finding various niches to exploit.  Miley can't ride off of Hannah Montana forever and without something, she'd be singing a duet version of "Achy Breaky Heart" with her dad.  So she does some ridiculous shit, which works well for her either way: if it works, she's extended her career by another 2-3 years.  If it doesn't, she can pretend to feed off the negativity; if that fails, she can claim to have some kind of addiction and have a multimillion dollar astroturfing movement (circa 2008 Britney Spears) to rehabilitate her.

I am a :supergay
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 26, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.

but...she is catering to urban music culture, and indeed to black people. Why did she go to a seedy black strip club to twerk? Why is she twisting her hair and using snaps associated with young black girls? Why is she going on the radio saying being black is a state of mind?

I know you dislike the Charlamagne video but dude...a lot of white people don't like that ghetto shit. Miley has a huge song right now, her hair cut is still big news but dude...she is killing her long term growth. I'm not convinced her album is going to sell well, but I could be wrong. Regardless, where does she go from here? She can't go back to being a "normal" pop rocker.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:34:17 PM
I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original? :gurl

They're all different takes of Madonna, who I think copied off of drag culture.

They're just finding various niches to exploit.  Miley can't ride off of Hannah Montana forever and without something, she'd be singing a duet version of "Achy Breaky Heart" with her dad.  So she does some ridiculous shit, which works well for her either way: if it works, she's extended her career by another 2-3 years.  If it doesn't, she can pretend to feed off the negativity; if that fails, she can claim to have some kind of addiction and have a multimillion dollar astroturfing movement (circa 2008 Britney Spears) to rehabilitate her.

I am a :supergay

So far it's working.

She has two songs in the top 5, released a song zero hype and it's number one.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Steve Contra on August 26, 2013, 06:34:19 PM
What the hell is racial condensation?  Black folks sweating more?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:35:47 PM
How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.

but...she is catering to urban music culture, and indeed to black people. Why did she go to a seedy black strip club to twerk? Why is she twisting her hair and using snaps associated with young black girls? Why is she going on the radio saying being black is a state of mind?

I know you dislike the Charlamagne video but dude...a lot of white people don't like that ghetto shit. Miley has a huge song right now, her hair cut is still big news but dude...she is killing her long term growth. I'm not convinced her album is going to sell well, but I could be wrong. Regardless, where does she go from here? She can't go back to being a "normal" pop rocker.

Good points. But she has to do something. :yeshrug

And it's not like say, Rihanna, doesn't change herself overnight to jack what's in. Miley could do the same shit.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 26, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.

but...she is catering to urban music culture, and indeed to black people. Why did she go to a seedy black strip club to twerk? Why is she twisting her hair and using snaps associated with young black girls? Why is she going on the radio saying being black is a state of mind?

I know you dislike the Charlamagne video but dude...a lot of white people don't like that ghetto shit. Miley has a huge song right now, her hair cut is still big news but dude...she is killing her long term growth. I'm not convinced her album is going to sell well, but I could be wrong. Regardless, where does she go from here? She can't go back to being a "normal" pop rocker.

Well, there are tons of pop stars that flamed out quick by doing the conventional, conservative thing.  While I agree that she is suffering long term damage, she is probably better off overall doing what she is doing now.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
She needs to pick a solid direction and roll with it. I know she's young and all but this half raver, half club rat shit is just not working.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:41:30 PM
Didn't Britney go through the same phase at point where she transitioned from cute harmless teen girl to...raunch?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 26, 2013, 06:43:47 PM
Ok, this has reached it's zenith now.  It's all downhill from here.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jenlewis/miley-cyrus-twerks-on-famous-paintings
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 26, 2013, 06:45:30 PM
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/8/26/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-30578-1377539439-9.gif)

That would be my facial expression too
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:45:36 PM
Girl with a Pearl Earring :dead
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 06:46:44 PM
Didn't Britney go through the same phase at point where she transitioned from cute harmless teen girl to...raunch?

Yeah but whomever was handling her did it with much more of a gradual transition from what I recall. It also helped that Brit kept up with dance moves she could perform well. So she never looked out of her element.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:48:33 PM
http://www.google.com/trends/

Lady Gaga ain't even in the top 10 :deadpos
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 06:51:24 PM
http://www.google.com/trends/

Lady Gaga ain't even in the top 10 :deadpos

lil kim is still relevant

 :heh
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 06:52:51 PM
Lil Kim :dead She was so wearing a corset last night :gurl
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
from this

(http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060824/153054__kim_l.jpg)


to this

(http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/vma-mtv-2013-lil-kim-red-carpet-ap__oPt.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/AM71U.png)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 07:02:19 PM
why is everyone a dwarf in that pic what the hell
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 07:03:51 PM
South Park still had the best lil kim though

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGFdFSECQAAgt_D.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 07:05:09 PM
lil kim is 4'11? who is that short ass nicca behind her who's like only 2 inches taller
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Positive Touch on August 26, 2013, 07:06:07 PM
miley aint trying to cater to black folks; shes travelling the spice trade route looking for all the finest black culture to take back to the suburbs. taking the tried-and-true appropriation route to come off as edgy and unique to cacs that dont know shit about that stuff. if shes gonna flame out its prolly cause she acts so god damn stupid while she does it. madonna may have been a rip-off artist but at least she didnt fuck it up every time she walked out the door.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 07:10:35 PM
Yeah, positive gets it.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
In my opinion, antidepressants and celebrity fixation are now so deeply embedded into western culture that any sort of surgical removal would cause severe brain trauma.

Celebs are more prone HUGELY to breakdowns, they take sanctioned pills from the man. If you can't actually process this, you're either complacent or not too bright.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 07:13:35 PM
Yeah man, Americans are the only people who care about celebs
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:14:31 PM
You started this phase.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
Slebs used to be kings and pharoahs. Literal gods.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
:what
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
But no. The USA wanted to even the playing field by making it so that as long a you.

Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: StealthFan on August 26, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
It helped that Britney was smoking hot when she transitioned.

2007 Britney was such a travesty. At least she had some spark to her though. She's so medicated and moderated these days she may as well be a fucking robot.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:19:49 PM
:what
Bill Cosby. He's pretty much your Jimmy Saville.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 26, 2013, 07:20:19 PM
issues of privilege and culture aside, the biggest crime is that miley pulled this "ratchet" shit without having ANY ASS TO SPEAK OF. this is fuckin' felonious, borderline treasonous shit. throw her stank teenboy ass in gitmo.

you don't get to be gisele bundchen and superhead at the same fuckin' time, you dull cracker cunt.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:20:39 PM
Toxic is a great song.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
Cruncheon, her ass looked like vagina lips.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: StealthFan on August 26, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
I wish twerking was hot when peak Britney was around :lawd
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 26, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
peak xtina > peak britney

fuck, i'll take xtina right now
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Rufus on August 26, 2013, 07:24:11 PM
lil kim is 4'11? who is that short ass nicca behind her who's like only 2 inches taller
Heels and perspective add to her height.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 07:24:29 PM
peak xtina > peak britney

fuck, i'll take xtina right now

Good taste baby

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1348958.1369060794!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/167011895nw00244-2013-billb.jpg)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 26, 2013, 07:26:02 PM
lil kim is 4'11? who is that short ass nicca behind her who's like only 2 inches taller

Tom Cruise
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Verdigris Murder on August 26, 2013, 07:27:31 PM
The downward motion of the right hand when singing evinces a subconscious desire to escape.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 26, 2013, 08:37:08 PM
WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condensation is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.

I don't know what Miley is trying to do. I see her trying to cop a bunch of shit instead of being original.

She reminded me of a 10 year old girl trying to "act sexy" when they don't know what sexy means.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 08:58:12 PM
WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condensation is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.

I don't know what Miley is trying to do. I see her trying to cop a bunch of shit instead of being original.

She reminded me of a 10 year old girl trying to "act sexy" when they don't know what sexy means.

(http://i.imgur.com/7N9zRBY.gif)

This is what people see with her so they feel bad.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Steve Contra on August 26, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
She reminds me of someone who took a very calculated risk to get lots and lots and lots of people talking about her by stirring up faux outrage. 
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 26, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
She reminds me of someone who took a very calculated risk to get lots and lots and lots of people talking about her by stirring up faux outrage.

Yeah but there's two kinds of talk "lol my boner is dead" and the middle america prude shit. I hate when people conflate the two.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 26, 2013, 09:15:46 PM
Yeah the whole thing sounds and looks calculated
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Atramental on August 26, 2013, 09:24:13 PM
http://areallywittyname.tumblr.com/post/59436553391

 :PP
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Positive Touch on August 26, 2013, 09:27:32 PM
 :what cynically calculated miley cyrus

this was a 20 year old woman acting like a 16 year old girl at a teen party. only calculated party was prolly mtv execs going "yes this is very stupid and yes, this will get media play"
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 26, 2013, 09:44:53 PM
:what cynically calculated miley cyrus

this was a 20 year old woman acting like a 16 year old girl at a teen party. only calculated party was prolly mtv execs going "yes this is very stupid and yes, this will get media play"

MTV has made a lot of money of the stupidity of others (Teen Mom, Jersey Shore, etc.) so I would not put it past them at all, especially if Miley was the dupe.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: nudemacusers on August 26, 2013, 10:15:11 PM
WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condensation is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.

I don't know what Miley is trying to do. I see her trying to cop a bunch of shit instead of being original.

She reminded me of a 10 year old girl trying to "act sexy" when they don't know what sexy means.
:phil
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: StealthFan on August 26, 2013, 10:15:12 PM
Spears was always a sex symbol. She just became one that was acceptable for old men to jack off to when she did her 2000 VMA performance. Her Slave 4 U one was where she completely cemented her delicious hoskie status. Even as a 13 year old I knew that performance would come past the hour and a half mark because of ratings. I eagerly waited so I could pull myself.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Mr. Gundam on August 26, 2013, 11:02:45 PM
WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condensation is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.

I don't know what Miley is trying to do. I see her trying to cop a bunch of shit instead of being original.

She reminded me of a 10 year old girl trying to "act sexy" when they don't know what sexy means.

(http://i.imgur.com/7N9zRBY.gif)

This is what people see with her so they feel bad.

I have never seen Hannah Montana, so I just see a crazy trainwreck child performer trying to be "mature." And get attention, which she did.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on August 27, 2013, 01:16:31 AM
Basicly people are just shocked how bad the performance was, not the actual content of it.

Cause if this shit was done right there would be some jerking done, but the entire thinh didnt have any sex appeal.
I wouldnt pay 10 bucks for a lapdance from miley if thats what she does...
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 27, 2013, 01:18:47 AM
(http://img.imgur.com/PmNkrbm.gif)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Oblivion on August 27, 2013, 05:47:04 AM
I enter this thread thinking that it would be flooded with Katy Perry gifs, and instead I find everyone talking about some random meth head who wandered off the set of Breaking Bad.

Disappoint.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: radioheadrule83 on August 27, 2013, 06:01:01 AM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/cc3f076ed51ab58d61a9f0fcf74549cc/tumblr_ms5th1jwpJ1ru5h8co1_500.gif)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 27, 2013, 04:16:48 PM
So, in cultural terms I kind of live under a rock, and generally speaking prefer things that way. So, today was the first time I'd heard "Blurred Lines," or seen the unedited video.

Two highly divergent reactions- the lyrics are kinda creepy and yes, "rapey." On the other end, I am going to marry that brunette in the video.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 27, 2013, 04:32:07 PM
my favorite part is when TI plays with the blonde chick's hair. But yes, the brunette is clearly the best.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Trent Dole on August 27, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
She's just being Miley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDT9e5kxx5A
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: brawndolicious on August 28, 2013, 12:07:30 AM
Decided to finally watch it, the first time I've seen anything of this girl. Just based on what I've heard of her, I would guess her main audience is either growing out of puberty or jerking themselves through a mid-life crisis. I don't see how this helps her expand in any way.

I'm was most surprised (but not very) that they had an old-ass guy who sings that really fucking annoying song playing her dance partner. He was being twerked on by a girl half his age who probably never even had a chance to twerk anyone before.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Raban on August 28, 2013, 12:27:55 AM
(http://i.minus.com/ibzhJYEAcMtCVg.gif)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2013, 12:29:13 AM
Guys this shit was almost half a week ago and you're still talking about it. Her power.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2013, 01:34:47 AM
See? You get it.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 28, 2013, 02:15:09 AM
Obviously you non white, non cis dudes just don't get it.  Nubile young white girls are America's most precious resource.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2013, 02:21:31 AM
Nubile young white girls are America's most precious resource.

Preach.

:rejoice

Her power! :rejoice

Two songs in the itunes top 5. Only dropped one place due to Katy Perry.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Hock on August 28, 2013, 02:28:28 AM
really, no mention of the nsync reunion?
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2013, 02:30:19 AM
really, no mention of the nsync reunion?

Best part of the show aside from Bruno's  performance. :bow
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Hock on August 28, 2013, 02:36:49 AM
really, no mention of the nsync reunion?

Best part of the show aside from Bruno's  performance. :bow
For the two minutes it lasted before JT threw the fatties off the stage so he could properly finish his performance. But I admit I was hyped.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: nudemacusers on August 28, 2013, 02:38:25 AM
really, no mention of the nsync reunion?
hew dat
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2013, 02:40:31 AM
Two minutes? Try 30 seconds. :sabu

Still it made me nostalgic and 1d got a lesson.  And yeah it thinks he's MJ now. Dude your solo career is great, but 10 minutes show after the nsync reunion? He gave those fellas that ether.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2013, 02:41:18 AM
really, no mention of the nsync reunion?
hew dat

:sabu

Go in
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: nudemacusers on August 28, 2013, 02:51:21 AM
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1881100/madonna-sips-her-tea-o.gif)
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on August 28, 2013, 02:56:36 AM
:bow
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Shadow Mod on August 28, 2013, 03:09:20 AM
JC is cool but the other 3? Who gives a fuck.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2013, 03:55:10 PM
Her new music video got 19m views in 24 hours and it's now at 62 million views in just three days.  :leon That 19 million views number is apparently an all time record.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Diunx on September 12, 2013, 04:13:37 PM
No one cares.
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 12, 2013, 04:33:46 PM
Oh shit, Miley Cyrus is gonna be bigger than what-his-name from that Gundam Style video now!
Title: Re: here's what you missed from the vma's this year
Post by: Himu on September 12, 2013, 04:43:51 PM
I just hope this means I have to see more of this shit.