THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: maxy on December 02, 2013, 03:31:56 AM
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92067466&postcount=1
Originally Posted by Aquamarine
When the PS3 / 360 released, development investment increased from 15 billion JPY ($146.5 million) to 30 billion JPY ($293.0 million). The great thing about mobile and portable game development is that the expectations are lower (much lower for mobile) in terms of development commitment from the staff.
Essentially, Capcom wants to invest heavily in the smartphone gaming realm as an avenue for future growth opportunities. Capcom's mobile sector has been lagging recently, and they want to invest in it to increase their operating margin in that area.
The president of Capcom says the way for Capcom to dedicate resources to mobile development (in terms of both expertise and flexibility) is to increase the percentage of in-house development dedicated to it. To this end, Capcom is using 4 billion JPY ($39.1 million) of the revenue from Monster Hunter 4 to create a new studio in Osaka (where Capcom's HQ is located), and they are ramping up development staff accordingly.
The new center in Osaka still has a possibility of being multi-purpose, though.
Thanks,3DS owners.
:umad
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At least this means Mega Man Legends 3 will get released in some form.
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Meanwhile...
Ono says no budget for Street Fighter V (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ono-says-no-budget-for-street-fighter-v/1100-6411507/)
:sabu :sabu :sabu
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At least this means Mega Man Legends 3 will get released in some form.
http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Rockman_DASH:_5tsu_no_Shima_no_Daibouken!
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monster hunter 4 improved port on ipad for maximum amount of tears pls
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Megaman Battle Network would work pretty sweetly on mobile.
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:neogaf
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What.
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Glorious low budget smartphone future. :-X
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The GAF tears about this are incredible. It punches them right in the nostalgia-drenched testes.
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Can't wait for Breath of Fire 6! :neogaf
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Japanese gaming :neogaf :dead
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Still can't believe...40 million into...a mobile studio.
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The MH3U iOS/Android port actually looks pretty decent so I'm not surprised. The more MH the better. If they make MH5 mobile-exclusive I'd only want controller support on Android. Might even buy a Shield for dat shit.
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The MH3U iOS/Android port
is that a real thing? i was joking when i said that thing about MH4... as far as i know the only MH game on mobile are a card/skinner box game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU2znYRtz0c
and this thing here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RddkOpvTd0
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The MH3U iOS/Android port
is that a real thing? i was joking when i said that thing about MH4... as far as i know the only MH game on mobile are a bunch of card/skinner box game and this thing here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RddkOpvTd0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmo9cnFMDI
Can't speak to the controls but the graphics/content seem fairly accurate.
Edit- Oh yeah iOS only. Fuckers.
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eh i'm not sure that's an actual MH3U port as much as a different game made from random bits of random MH game's... nonetheless it certainly looks more like a MH game than the one i posted :heh
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Yeah, port was a bad choice of word. I was trying to be pithy.
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this will be the last gen for japanese games
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this will be the last gen for japanese games
No, they'll just move to Kickstarter.
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this will be the last gen for japanese games
No, they'll just move to Kickstarter.
to fund mobile games!
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this will be the last gen for japanese games
What the PS3 gen? Yeah, probably.
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Nintendo should have done something like this with the Wii profits, to prepare for next gen.
:what
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this will be the last gen for japanese games
Yup, sucks for someone like me who doesn't like mobile and has tried (but failed) to get into western games...
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:jawalrus
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Metal Gear Solid V will end up being the last great japanese game, end of an era :tocry
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Thats a shitty way to go out.
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I thought the benefit of mobile gaming was the reduced costs
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I am under absolutely zero illusions that MH next destination is Mobile Phones - and with a ton of IAP.
Because CAPCOM
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Yeah, you should double-down on that bet, if you can find any takers.
They should a giant dead horse monster, so the players can beat the hell out of it too.
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I am under absolutely zero illusions that MH next destination is Mobile Phones - and with a ton of IAP.
Because CAPCOM
I just ask for no dumbing down of the controls, same amount of content as MH4, and an Android port with decent controller support.
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The MH3U iOS/Android port actually looks pretty decent so I'm not surprised. The more MH the better. If they make MH5 mobile-exclusive I'd only want controller support on Android. Might even buy a Shield for dat shit.
Andy says while: (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc130/esmith1985/shepicide_zpsa7905c1a.gif)
Anyway if Capcom goes mobile: I honestly couldn't care at this point. With the amount of fucking things up that I liked from them in IP's that I enjoyed from them? I wouldn't miss them. *shrug* Similar to if Square went under.
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Dark Souls mobile will be a thing.
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Dark Souls mobile will be a thing.
Reported for abuse.
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Can't wait to see Western sacred cows doing the same.
Honestly,at this point, ignoring smartphone market is just plain stupid.
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It is stupid. Especially if you are a company that's a few decades old and have a bunch of old art assets/IP's laying around doing nothing.
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It is stupid. Especially if you are a company that's a few decades old and have a bunch of old art assets/IP's laying around doing nothing.
personaly i hope investing more money translate into seeing less skinner box games,capcom has thrown so many of them out,heck here's the latest one just released a bunch of weeks ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btgUJvXwsD0
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I don't think you'll ever see those games go away, it's become a genre at this point. They are so prevalent that there is a fanbase that strictly plays those types of games. Jumping from one to the other. Similar to what we saw with Korean MMO's in the 00's.
All you can hope for is one or two more 'traditional' games developed alongside those. Squarenix has kind of done this. Although, I wouldn't hold them up as a model company.
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It is stupid. Especially if you are a company that's a few decades old and have a bunch of old art assets/IP's laying around doing nothing.
It isn't stupid. What do you want them to do? Mobile is a good means to re-up on money and much better than resorting to another mediocre console title. After that, they can reinvest that mobile money into console money. This is a good move, as Capcom are in a dire situation.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-10-capcom-looks-towards-big-changes-after-difficult-fy13
At present, Capcom has just over $152 million in cash, which isn't much for a company attempting to navigate the costly transition to a new hardware generation and the company-wide implementation of a service-based infrastructure.
This is a smart move.
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I was replying to the post above mine that said 'not investing in the mobile market is stupid'.
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After that, they can reinvest that mobile money into console money.
Too bad that almost never happens.
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I'm not sure if you're serious. Capcom aren't going to make Street Fighter 5 or Resident Evil 7 on mobile.
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I'm not sure if you're serious. Capcom aren't going to make Street Fighter 5 or Resident Evil 7 on mobile.
Everybody always says "Oh, X company made a ton of money by targeting Y audience, now they'll be able to put more money into games for Z audience!" and it very rarely ever plays out like that.
See: Nintendo, Valve, ect.
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You mean like Valve making Left 4 Dead 3? Or Nintendo the entire past year?
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Well I think we can be sure that Resident Evil 7 and Street Fighter 5 will be console titles.
Only Street Fighter 5 and Resident Evil 7.
Those other franchisees.....well I don't know about those. That's what sucks.
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They've got Deep Down in the works. Just be patient, hope they make good games, and support those good games. If they don't make good games, why buy them? And if they aren't making any good games, why lament them going mobile? They'll still likely be making bad games, mobile or not. Seems a lot of effort to stress over such small matters.
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Or Nintendo the entire past year?
A company that's suddenly very desperate after their cash cow kicked the bucket?
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Nintendo 2013 game developed/published list:
Fire Emblem Awakening
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Pikmin 3
New Super Luigi U
Zelda: Wind Waker HD
Pokemon X/Y
Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Super Mario 3D World
Crashmo
HarmoKnight
The Wonderful 101
Capcom:
Ace Attorney 5
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Monster Hunter 4
Sengoku Basara 4 (out soon)
Again, support good games. You don't support good games. Thus, you have no right to bitch. You just argued that Nintendo didn't reinvest their money in their core games, when this year, they are arguably, without a doubt, the best publisher and developer by a far margin. Again, stop playing the bullshit console war crap, and start playing good games. I realize this is too hard to ask.
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Did you buy Crashmo, Super Mario 3d World, Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Ace Attorney 5, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Mario and Luigi: Dream Team? No? Shut the fuck up then.
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Himu knocking fools the fuck out. :rejoice
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himu is turning into a worse nthing than andrex and brandnew together :kobeyuck
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On another board, someone called me a Sony fantard. On another forum someone called me a Microsoft fantard. Now you're calling me a Nintard.
MAYBE I JUST LIKE GOOD GAMES
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You like Animal Crossing and the Sims, so we know that ain't true :heh
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You like Animal Crossing and the Sims, so we know that ain't true :heh
No true gamer fallacy :gurl
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You like Animal Crossing and the Sims, so we know that ain't true :heh
Eh, you played plenty of Path of Exile and Torchlight 2, and put 500 hours into a - at the time - broken game so you're really not one to talk about that.
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This argument wasn't about me, tho :jawalrus
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Yeah, it's about me enjoying Animal Crossing. You know, the most played game of 2013 on Bore, short of GTAV. The one that Treesong had Nich Maragos write a article on his site for. You know, that bad game that everyone played and enjoyed.
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COG owned again and again, love it.
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Let's play AC sometime this week, Andy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRpOxztFoUI
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You just argued that Nintendo didn't reinvest their money in their core games, when this year, they are arguably, without a doubt, the best publisher and developer by a far margin.
And I also argued that the only reason Nintendo is coming back to core gamers is because their casual gamer cash cow got taken out back behind the woodshed and shot through the forehead, leaving them scrambling to try to pick up the slack somewhere else.
If you want to see exactly what I'm talking about there, see the Wii's lifespan minus the first two years. Cheap casual games were huge and Nintendo's output of core titles, if anything, tailed off quite a bit.
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My town's probably dead... :'(
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I need the help of those deranged gaffers to get 100 visits to my town. Do they still play AC regularly?
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Probably.
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Even if you're not a Capcom fan, as a gamer how is this a good thing in any way?
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Because he plays console wars and not good games.
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I don't even own a console... I own a blu-ray streaming machine that very occasionally gets used to play games.
I just want to see the world burn, because it will make people who annoy me cry.
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Yeah, it's about me enjoying Animal Crossing. You know, the most played game of 2013 on Bore, short of GTAV. The one that Treesong had Nich Maragos write a article on his site for. You know, that bad game that everyone played and enjoyed.
Means fuck all. Let's play pay your mortgage and dress up! Game of the year? And you wonder why I want gaming to die.
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Because he plays console wars and not good games.
Seriously, please explain to me how I play console wars, Mr. "Fuck the Xbone, PS4 for lyfe" and then 2 weeks later "fuck both the next gen consoles, I'm not even fucking with it"
You are so fucking bipolar and I'm so fucking tired of dealing with it
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Means fuck all. Let's play pay your mortgage and dress up! Game of the year? And you wonder why I want gaming to die.
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Seriously, please explain to me how I play console wars, Mr. "Fuck the Xbone, PS4 for lyfe" and then 2 weeks later "fuck both the next gen consoles, I'm not even fucking with it"
You are so fucking bipolar and I'm so fucking tired of dealing with it
:umad :umad
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Shut the fuck up, Fandrex
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Because he plays console wars and not good games.
Seriously, please explain to me how I play console wars, Mr. "Fuck the Xbone, PS4 for lyfe" and then 2 weeks later "fuck both the next gen consoles, I'm not even fucking with it"
You are so fucking bipolar and I'm so fucking tired of dealing with it
I haven't said "fuck both next gen consoles not fucking with it" at all. I'm buying a ps4 next year.
Since you have such a huge problem with reading comprehension, here are examples of you being a console war slut:
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=41223.msg1790870#msg1790870
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=41201.msg1788732#msg1788732
No gamer who actually just cares about games gives a rats ass about hardware.
Also, there's a difference between not wanting launch systems (which are almost always faulty and never have good software until 1-2 years later) and saying fuck next gen. I haven't said fuck next gen at all and have been very positive towards the Xboner after playing it at Mupepe's house.
Given your unnecessary anger feeding through this thread, I may not be the bipolar one.
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Shut the fuck up, Fandrex
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Disliking handhelds is engaging in "console wars" now
For the love of fuck with this place
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I just want to see the world burn, because it will make people who annoy me cry.
yup yup,beside why it would be a bad thing either? if capcom goes mobile it actualy means they are making game on a cheap platform that you probably already own and that's a good thing unless they are as i said skinner box like game in which case you can just tell them to fuck it up and go play something else (might i suggest desktop dungeons?) the drama is stupid because the people that cry about these thing are the same people that would rather have capcom doing a 2D HD megaman game and then burn and crash as they cry for their fallen hero while waxing post about how "they at least went out with a bang"
Given your unnecessary anger feeding through this thread, I may not be the bipolar one.
Again, support good games. You don't support good games. Thus, you have no right to bitch. You just argued that Nintendo didn't reinvest their money in their core games, when this year, they are arguably, without a doubt, the best publisher and developer by a far margin. Again, stop playing the bullshit console war crap, and start playing good games. you baka! :uguu
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:rejoice Oscar's bac-
:fbm Oh.
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Who really cares about all this? Capcom can do what they like with the money they have earned.
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I wonder how much of that money they'll invest in a new Mega Man game? :sabu
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Who really cares about all this? Capcom can do what they like with the money they have earned.
:badass
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I'm not sure if you're serious. Capcom aren't going to make Street Fighter 5 or Resident Evil 7 on mobile.
*knocks on wood*
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Capcom:
Ace Attorney 5
Again, support good games. You don't support good games.
Not my place to "support good games" when I supported said good games in the past, then got spat on in the face by Capcom with "OH YOU DIDN'T SUPPORT US HARD ENOUGH! YOU DON'T GET THE NEXT TITLE IN THE SERIES AND MAYBE NOT ANYTHING ELSE IN THE FUTURE!" Only for them to then offer an olive branch and then go "OH BUT YOU DON'T GET A PHYSICAL RELEASE! A SHITTY ONLINE SYSTEMS DRM IS FOR YOU!"
Fuck them. :pacspit Not my place to support them if that's how they want to "support" their fanbase.
I'm not sure if you're serious. Capcom aren't going to make Street Fighter 5 or Resident Evil 7 on mobile.
*knocks on wood*
Given how much Ono has been crying they won't greenlight his Darkstalkers (nothing of value lost there, given how lukewarm Capcom's rehashing Darkstalkers was last gen with that GGPO release on consoles), and Street Fighter 5... I'd say SF5 is more than likely going to mobile than consoles. (Okay, I'm half joking there. Capcom can't be that completely stupid to piss off one of the last major fanbases that will eat their shit and take it.)
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Who really cares about all this? Capcom can do what they like with the money they have earned.
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Nothing really outrageous with what i said. It is like still a business. It is like saying they should support a dying business model when they have the opportunity to move on. Did i say "like", scratch that bit. Sony, MS and Nintendo have to offer better business models ones that you know can support itself? You cant expect business to rush over and make their games that sell mostly 1m(they recover 20 million) when it costs 40 million and up to make. You know why third parties last gen made mostly multi-platform games? Its is to try and recover as much as possible and make a profit. This time they are gonna try and keep the 6 console thing going(PC, PS3, PS4, 360, Xbone, Wii U). Ubisoft is the smartest at the moment in this regard but that I doubt would last for long.
I think the mobile decision is smart because they can make 200k dollar games and make millions.
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I mean you're post is all rational and whatnot, but that rationality is something I don't want to face.
It makes all kinds of sense for Capcom to make these mobile games over their console games. Of course Capcom should do whatever they want with their money, we are not anyone to judge. It is of course a business. But that's not a fun discussion because the reality is'isn't very cool. Even without delving into crying territory, it still sucks to see Capcom not developing Onimusha 5 or a console or even handheld Breath of Fire 6.
I'm not a business person though and why I understand the business decisions behind these things, I still think they suck. Maybe for selfish reasons, but that's the way it is. I'm at best begrudgingly having to invest in handhelds and I really am not interested in mobile games. So it sucks to me that that really is the future, because that's where things make sense business wise.
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Megaman Battle Network would work pretty sweetly on mobile.
I really dug that series. I'd like to see it revived again
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I loved Battle Network till they made it like Pokémon. Too many versions and rapid releases no thx.
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I think I played the first two so I don't know how much it degraded.
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I think I played the first two so I don't know how much it degraded.
3 was the first questionable one,4 is when they ran it into the fucking ground... this LP of it is pretty funny in detailing how,the LP'er count how many spelling mistake and other assorted oddities there are in the game and ends up close to 300 :lol
http://lparchive.org/Mega-Man-Battle-Network-4-6/