While I can’t recommend you spend full price, I do think it’s worth checking out at some point—either when the price drops, or as a rental, or borrowed from a friend. It’s a really gorgeous game, and I don’t at all regret my time spent playing it. I’m certainly rooting for a sequel—one that can maintain its vision of being story-driven and compelling, but that pushes even harder to be a good game. Ambition is all well and good so long as the core mechanics are sound. And they simply aren’t sound in The Order: 1886.
The Order: 1886 ends on a note that displays a full intention for there to be subsequent releases in the franchise. But in this day and age there isn’t any room for games that are costly to craft, and don’t stand out enough to be impactful. It’d be a surprise if a sequel ever saw the light of day.
But the real sin of The Order: 1886 isn't its shoddy storytelling or regrettable dialogue. No, the real problem is that it's all so incredibly boring. Every moment of The Order: 1886, from the in medias res opening to the abrupt final battle, feels entirely predetermined. With the exception of a handful of gun battles, in which the player is free to decide in which order they will kill all the bad guys, Ready At Dawn is entirely unwilling to let go of the player's hand.(http://www.thebore.com/forum/Smileys/default/whoo.png)
But the shallow, slow, and generic quick-time event-riddled gameplay make it feel like an experience that would've been better served by a non-interactive movie than a game. With no multiplayer, and no reason to revisit the short and stunted single-player campaign once it’s been completed, there just isn’t a lot to it.
The Order: 1886 is a paper-thin PS4 launch title delivered 15 months behind schedule. It’s nowhere near as profound or innovative as it thinks it is—the epitome of all style and no substance.
What, then, to make of The Order: 1886? It is, at best, perfectly playable, and lovely to look at and listen to. But it is also the face of mediocrity and missed opportunities. A bad game can make a case for itself. A boring one is harder to forgive.
Unbearably boring from its first moments, with an underwritten script, bland characters, and repetitive and overfamilar action. No replay value or additional game modes.
There are things here worth checking out, but the action feels half-cocked and you'll be finished with it in an afternoon. I won't pretend to guess at how much $60 means to you, dear reader, but I will say that The Order is a middling experience with a couple of bright flashes that only serve to remind you that this could be a more interesting game if more of its ideas were fully formed. If you're bent on seeing The Order for yourself, you should probably rent it.
"Rather than summarizing I think I'm just going to go for a simile-- The Order is like, you're allowed to gaze upon the Mona Lisa. But you're not allowed to do so unless you are drinking a cup of piss."
Sony tends to get -2 review handicap because they don't strong arm publications and don't have the money to sweeten their relationships with them. Then there's the fact that they tend to be very hands off, and use their IPs as loss leaders. If they're not, all the better.
EA and Ubi have the deep pockets to market a mess of a game and find friendly eyes at the big sites. Not everyone does though. A better context would be they actually get a +2 handicap
Remember The Bouncer?
can this be changed to the Bouncer OT
can this be changed to the Bouncer OT
:lol
i've never actually played the bouncer but i DID buy it on ebay recently in a combo pack with Dirge of Cerberus
Fuck you Bouncer has gameplayBouncer
The Bouncer had a 4P versus mode, yeah.
So it still has way more game play than The Order does!
Congrats on creating the videogame equivalent of 2004's Van Helsing, guys.It is kind of the best movie game for a movie that doesn't exist.
Somebody more skilled in photoshop than I really, really, needs to grab that full motion video icon and past in on the order's box and post it in the review thead.
"Do you like movies? Do you like video games? If you answered "yes" to either of those questions, you should probably skip The Order: 1886."
i've never actually played the bouncer but i DID buy it on ebay recently in a combo pack with Dirge of Cerberus
Is Dirge even playable now? Didn't it have some required online stuff?
Review threads for hyped up platform-exclusive games are consistently some of the most embarrassing threads on my site.
i was interested in the bouncer because it was a dream factory game and i loved tobal. in the end i never got around to playing it. i heard the multiplayer mode could be fun as a 4-player variation on a tobal-like fighter, but only if you unlocked everything first by playing through the story 6 times or something.
i was interested in the bouncer because it was a dream factory game and i loved tobal. in the end i never got around to playing it. i heard the multiplayer mode could be fun as a 4-player variation on a tobal-like fighter, but only if you unlocked everything first by playing through the story 6 times or something.
from my experience, i feel for anyone who was following the order because they actually wanted a Victorian steampunk cinematic shooter or whatever. they didn't ask to be dragged into the horrors of console war. :'(
i wish someone would investigative journalism on dream factory and what the hell happened. apparently they still exist in some form??
i wish someone would investigative journalism on dream factory and what the hell happened. apparently they still exist in some form??
You cant rent games in Denmark.
Even Killzone PS4 ia still 30+ euro second hand here too.
Id def rent if I could, I already sell all my games cause fuck collecting
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Finished the game on Hard with Aim Assist off in about 6h30mins.
Amazing visuals both artistically and technically and the lore has potential but the encounter design and total lack of enemy variation really killed my enjoyment once I reached the halfway mark.
You create a game about werewolves and all you make me do is fight human rebels wearing bowler hats. It's unbelievable really, throw me in a room with random cover strewn about and call in the bowler hats. There was no room for any sort of tactics beyond headshot everything and sometimes throw a grenade or activate blacksight.
I can't believe how poor the werewolf encounters were too, utterly devoid of any sort of creativity or craftsmanship. I kept expecting the game to mix things up and surprise me but it never did, from start to finish it never really changed at all in terms of encounters. Baffling, truly baffling. Feels like a game designed entirely by a bunch of artists who just didn't care much for the moment to moment gameplay as long as things looked and sounded good.
They knocked it out of the park on that front but that's about it. I really hope that the studio gets the chance to create a more substantial sequel, something that doesn't feel so empty and hollow.
And for the love of god let me fight some fuckingspoiler (click to show/hide)vampires!!!! What the fuck was that? Introduce them but never do anything with them... Just terrible.[close]
I can't stay low because there's no crouch, exiting cover is a bit clunky, they never showed me how to switch shoulder when aiming, every time I see an icon I KNOW they're going to turn it into a FUCKING CUTSCENE, going down a ladder? Cutscene! Opening a fucking door? Cutscene! Stealth takedown? Cutscene! Meeting up with a character? Cutscene! Going up an elevator? Cutscene! Cutscene! Cutscene! Cutscene! I can't go five seconds of gameplay without being FUCKING INTERRUPTED all the fucking time with fucking cutscenes! All these real time cutscenes, at least let me move the camera! Moving through a plaza? Let me at least jog instead of being forced to walk, I don't need to be able to sprint but come on.
Yeah, all joking aside, I'll be skipping this one.QuoteFinished the game on Hard with Aim Assist off in about 6h30mins.
Amazing visuals both artistically and technically and the lore has potential but the encounter design and total lack of enemy variation really killed my enjoyment once I reached the halfway mark.
You create a game about werewolves and all you make me do is fight human rebels wearing bowler hats. It's unbelievable really, throw me in a room with random cover strewn about and call in the bowler hats. There was no room for any sort of tactics beyond headshot everything and sometimes throw a grenade or activate blacksight.
I can't believe how poor the werewolf encounters were too, utterly devoid of any sort of creativity or craftsmanship. I kept expecting the game to mix things up and surprise me but it never did, from start to finish it never really changed at all in terms of encounters. Baffling, truly baffling. Feels like a game designed entirely by a bunch of artists who just didn't care much for the moment to moment gameplay as long as things looked and sounded good.
They knocked it out of the park on that front but that's about it. I really hope that the studio gets the chance to create a more substantial sequel, something that doesn't feel so empty and hollow.
And for the love of god let me fight some fuckingspoiler (click to show/hide)vampires!!!! What the fuck was that? Introduce them but never do anything with them... Just terrible.[close]QuoteI can't stay low because there's no crouch, exiting cover is a bit clunky, they never showed me how to switch shoulder when aiming, every time I see an icon I KNOW they're going to turn it into a FUCKING CUTSCENE, going down a ladder? Cutscene! Opening a fucking door? Cutscene! Stealth takedown? Cutscene! Meeting up with a character? Cutscene! Going up an elevator? Cutscene! Cutscene! Cutscene! Cutscene! I can't go five seconds of gameplay without being FUCKING INTERRUPTED all the fucking time with fucking cutscenes! All these real time cutscenes, at least let me move the camera! Moving through a plaza? Let me at least jog instead of being forced to walk, I don't need to be able to sprint but come on.
oh, and i bought the Japanese DL version of The Order because - well, a) my ps4s drive is busted, b) DUMB
This thread and playing Infamous First Light for free lately (thanks to PS+) has got me thinking about how weak Sony's 1st party stuff has been on PS4 so far:
A vast realm of disappointment awaits you. As this board's number one Tobal fanboy, I can say that The Bouncer is the worst possible combination of Square sensibilities overlaid on Dream Factory's fighting engine strapped into a camera which doesn't support it.i was interested in the bouncer because it was a dream factory game and i loved tobal. in the end i never got around to playing it. i heard the multiplayer mode could be fun as a 4-player variation on a tobal-like fighter, but only if you unlocked everything first by playing through the story 6 times or something.
from my experience, i feel for anyone who was following the order because they actually wanted a Victorian steampunk cinematic shooter or whatever. they didn't ask to be dragged into the horrors of console war. :'(
hearing it's made by the tobal people is making me want to track it down again.
Dirge was unplayable even at its launch.i've never actually played the bouncer but i DID buy it on ebay recently in a combo pack with Dirge of Cerberus
LOL, man, I bet it has not aged well at all. :lol
Is Dirge even playable now? Didn't it have some required online stuff?
A vast realm of disappointment awaits you. As this board's number one Tobal fanboy, I can say that The Bouncer is the worst possible combination of Square sensibilities overlaid on Dream Factory's fighting engine strapped into a camera which doesn't support it.i was interested in the bouncer because it was a dream factory game and i loved tobal. in the end i never got around to playing it. i heard the multiplayer mode could be fun as a 4-player variation on a tobal-like fighter, but only if you unlocked everything first by playing through the story 6 times or something.
from my experience, i feel for anyone who was following the order because they actually wanted a Victorian steampunk cinematic shooter or whatever. they didn't ask to be dragged into the horrors of console war. :'(
hearing it's made by the tobal people is making me want to track it down again.
Fear. Pain. Anguish.
Just play RPG mode in Tobal 2, it's better.
Almost finished, last 3 chapters now.
Bit wonky stealth section now which is the low point of the game. Shooting is real good in this one, real weight behind it.
Still in that 8/10 territory for me, really hope they can flesh it out in a sequel as this game realy deserves one.
Already put it up for sale ofc since there is no reason to keep it beyond tomorrow :)
Order has a better story etc than 90% of the games out there really.
I must be super out of touch with todays market cause i prefer this over fetch quest games with collectibles that are popular now (DAi, ass creed, mordor)
it was; a series of 100 challenge levels replaced it.I do too, which speedstats makes fun of me for. It's super jank, but its the right kind of jank where I can still have some fun with the game despite recognizing how terrible it is. I just make fun of how seriously the story tries to take itself, like having color coded villains named after the color itself, a gimp younger brother and retconning Hojo to upload his conscience at the end of FF7 before he died.
I might be the only one in the world who enjoys that game. enjoy it an in ironic sense, but still. the director said they were aiming for a half-life inspired game; instead they ended up with a fps that you'd find in a costco bargain bin in 1995. I love early fps games so I ended up having a lot of fun with dirge.
Almost finished, last 3 chapters now.
Bit wonky stealth section now which is the low point of the game. Shooting is real good in this one, real weight behind it.
Still in that 8/10 territory for me, really hope they can flesh it out in a sequel as this game realy deserves one.
Already put it up for sale ofc since there is no reason to keep it beyond tomorrow :)
I know that there's personal preferences and all that, but I'd never rate a game a 8/10 if I was planning on selling it immediately after playing it.
...God, did I even work on Dirge?
(Checks Mobygames)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG0zJ89Fv8c&t
id rather watch a 30 minute video and save 60 bucks.
id rather watch a 30 minute video and save 60 bucks.
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I'm happy Sony seems to be ok funding these projects that don't deserve it. From Heavenly Sword, Beyond Two Worlds, Tokyo Jungle, to The Order and the upcoming Until Dawn. I don't get how these games get huge budgets and they aren't actually usually good games. Still, I'm happy they exist if only for thier odd and noteworthy imperfect productions.
The Order is'nt even that bad. A solid game that for some reason I guess is tasked with being some great savior of the PS4. It's just a solid playing TPS with fantastic visuals and an interesting setting and premise. Don't know why the game has gotten this much flack. It's hardly offensive.
I guess, but then people should have been lambasting the Uncharted games for basically allowing this to happen. There's honestly not that much difference between the Uncharted games and The Order. Except the Uncharteds are a bit longer and now have multiplayer. But honestly, I don't see the value in multiplayer unless that's clearly the game's focus. Didn't care about it in the likes of Tomb Raider or say God War A. Resources that could have gone elsewhere.The Order is'nt even that bad. A solid game that for some reason I guess is tasked with being some great savior of the PS4. It's just a solid playing TPS with fantastic visuals and an interesting setting and premise. Don't know why the game has gotten this much flack. It's hardly offensive.
I'm going to guess it gets this much flack for being a stupid, QTE and cut scene filled, non-replayable mess of a game that has pretty graphics and literally nothing else to offer.
This game got panned because its a sony game imho. It would also get panned if it was a
Msft game.
If this was a sega game or something journos would be on the barricades to defend it and it would be a cult classic .
The problem is what people expect not what the game is.
Gamers when single player is awesome: "Why waste time on Multiplayer? Jesus fucking christ"
Gamers when single player is garbage: "Should put multiplayer, that'll make it fun"
Vanquish had horrible controls. Demo put me off the entire game. Such a floaty mess.:mindblown
Vanquish had horrible controls. Demo put me off the entire game. Such a floaty mess.Like no man.
Luckily the Order seems to be selling a lot better then that typical platinum flop.
A whole lotta 60 dollar preorder justifying going on in here!
A whole lotta 60 dollar preorder justifying going on in here!
Wait till an actual good game comes out and gets under-reviewed.
It will be submitted as a hague war crime.
Vanquish had horrible controls. Demo put me off the entire game. Such a floaty mess.
Luckily the Order seems to be selling a lot better then that typical platinum flop.
Adding some extra modes (horde mode!) should have been done for sure, its ommision is weird
There is a reason why platinum games flop, and it just might be because they suck according to the public.
They had one decent selling game and that was on the back of mgs.
Rad is a studio on its way up, moving up from handheld games to console games. Platinum is hanging on by a thread just moving from patron to patron till that well runs dry.
Vanquish had horrible controls. Demo put me off the entire game. Such a floaty mess.Oh god this is the worst thing I've read all day
Make a 30 minute analysis of a 7 hour game brehs
Just play the game and make up your own mind