well, it helps to know who he is running against first
What do you propose they should have done?Get Trump to switch sides
What do you propose they should have done?
coronate king bernie :bernieI like Bernie, he stands and fights for something.
But, I don't see how he can get over 33% of the vote at bestThat would be the worst defeat in American history by some margin. Except for that time nobody ran against James Monroe.
50%
You're trying to kill Glen, aren't you
Which countries are you looking at?
UK despite brexit
UK despite brexit
Not a good idea. Britain has a strong class system with low social mobility. It's going to get worse now.
Thanks to decades of Murdoch brainwashing, much like in America, poor people continue to vote against their own interests.
Without EU support of economically underdeveloped regions and sectors, those regions where a majority voted for Brexit will soon start to suffer the most. There'll be more unemployment as the industry leaves.
>Implying Europe is better than Europe
>Especially for PoC.
:yikes
But is Europe worse than Europe? :hmm
How does one even begin to compare a band with an entire continent?
>Implying Europe is better than Europe
>Especially for PoC.
:yikes
Yeah Europe is probably the same as Europe lol boom, roasted
>Implying Europe is better than Europe
>Especially for PoC.
:yikes
Yeah Europe is probably the same as Europe lol boom, roasted
Match popped up during matchmaking before I noticed my typo. Damn it.
Point is, Cindy would be in for a rude awakening if she went anywhere in Europe besides like... maybe the Nordic. And even then...
Point is, Cindy would be in for a rude awakening if she went anywhere in Europe besides like... maybe the Nordic. And even then...
UK despite brexit
>Implying Europe is better than Europe
>Especially for PoC.
:yikes
UK despite brexit
I can't attest personally but it sure seems like Britain is TERF-y as hell.
It is better than America.
In Europe, because I am a black American and not African, I will gain special privilege.
I am also not Muslim. Nor am I a Jew or a romani. Those are the real demos being discriminated against.
Most Europeans are about nationality than race. And since I have almost zero American pride it will be easy to assimilate into.
Also you are applying a blanket statement
As an artist, I have reason to move. Americans do not respect art. Americans also limit education and access to it.
Even when America is burning, Americans think they are the better.
In Europe, because I am a black American and not African, I will gain special privilege.
She has a point about lethal force and police brutality against black people here, there's no euro equivalent but yea. The rest is a lot of wishful thinking, totally understand if you want better healthcare or more material support. It's why people want to move to America from the periphery too :trumps
Edit: plus Europe is safer and you get to work even less at our fake first worlder jobs. Core life is sweet :lawd
Excuse me, excuse me, I'd just like to ask a question,what does God need with a starshipwhat do you know about immigrating into Europe? Especially France?
Or say, about French political culture? (Like its apathy and religiosity...)
Even when America is burning, Americans think they are the better.
(https://i.imgur.com/ohDKCIOg.jpg)
America is a trash fire. I will flatly admit that. HOWEVER, if you honestly think Europe isn't as much (if not more/less depending on the country) a trash fire... I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.QuoteIn Europe, because I am a black American and not African, I will gain special privilege.
"But they'll treat me better because I'm not African!"
:yikes Talk about out of touch/not knowing what is going on there. Doesn't matter if you're not a Muslim or African: They still see you as "other."
Wrong. I won't be considered "other" I will be considered American. I greatly look forward to shedding my American identity so I will embrace being french.
Siri, please Google "African immigrants in France"
You also have a lot of Serge to listen to, Cindi :steiner
You also have a lot of Serge to listen to, Cindi :steiner
serge? jacque brel is the one and only god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_bq5mStroM
he's still a god in france!
Bro.... They don't like amerikkkans either (no one does lol... Except nintex), no matter how much you try to be french. I speak French pretty dece and had a good time there but they will pick you out like a sore thumb.
Edit: nvm you are completely clueless about the histories and economies of the countries you want to move to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulay2FvUEd8
The point wasn't that France was racist... But that you would have tons of trouble integrating there because you're American.
Scott Walker is the man that got me to pay attention to any french lyric music. Credit to him.the former Governor of Wisconsin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms7WWPLEkgU
this dude killed his wife. song still slaps and the video is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms7WWPLEkgU
this dude killed his wife. song still slaps and the video is awesome
was not sold until the dancing. Now sold.
The point wasn't that France was racist... But that you would have tons of trouble integrating there because you're American.
You brought up economy and hidorry. :yeshrug
Yeah, it will probably be tough. Oh well.
You did (indirectly) talking about culture, attitudes etc. Like you're in here talking about exceptionalism and imperialism like it's some unique american thing and all the places you're talking about have neocolonies and internal colonies. And like I said it's all good if you think you'll have better opportunity there or whatever but the parts of American culture you dislike have the same socioeconomic roots
one more for tvc, i kno you'll dig this :-* awesome french garage rock with dylan's delivery and the songwriting chops of cohen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24WI2bgG8Rw
translation:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/ET-MOI-ET-MOI-ET-MOI-And-I-and-I-and-I.html
Regarding respecting art and all, most of those countries have laws, programs and policies to promote native/national art, not American visitor's art.
Again I don't care about where you live or what you want to do or whatever, my goal is to get you to look at the world with a broader scope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c55oKJvCxNs
At least wait to see who gets the DNC nom/how November goes before outright bailing lol.
Cindy, have you ever been outside the US?
Again I don't care about where you live or what you want to do or whatever, my goal is to get you to look at the world with a broader scope.
I'm on the other side of this. I'm more concerned about Cindi trying to solve her problems by joining another cultural group, very intensely making it part of her identity, then inevitably becoming disillusioned before starting the cycle again.
Also I have a really good pun for this but I've temporarily pocketed it to focus on being supportive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c55oKJvCxNs
At least wait to see who gets the DNC nom/how November goes before outright bailing lol.
They're just trying to save you from becoming a complete oui-aboo.
They're just trying to save you from becoming a complete oui-aboo.
You really couldn’t hold that one in long, huh?
Yeah, it's from the Blackbox comp. :rock Back in the day there was a dude who tried to collect every KMFDM thing in every high school, that wasn't me but he was a friend of mine. Dude wore shorts year round in the northeast.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c55oKJvCxNs
At least wait to see who gets the DNC nom/how November goes before outright bailing lol.
I remember seeing this on one of my brother’s VHS comps, probably a Wax Trax one judging by the logo. He was obsessed with collecting every Wax Trax release.They're just trying to save you from becoming a complete oui-aboo.
You really couldn’t hold that one in long, huh?
for the record Cindi, despite our racist history, I have Muslim friends, white friends, Asian friends, gay friends, true I only have one irl trans friends but trans is kinda rare, Cape Town is as close as you can get to a good multicultural society in the world imo, if you move out of the city, you're kinda outa luck thoBro.... They don't like amerikkkans either (no one does lol... Except nintex), no matter how much you try to be french. I speak French pretty dece and had a good time there but they will pick you out like a sore thumb.
Edit: nvm you are completely clueless about the histories and economies of the countries you want to move to
It's not that I don't know.
It's that I don't care. Which you don't seem to get.
Google African immigrants in France? Why don't you Google black Americans in America?
"France is racist!!!!" isn't going to sway me. What, like America isn't? Great argument. Where you want me to go? Fucking Africa and not Europe? The place where it's illegal to be trans or gay? Nah. Whatever racism France and Europe has pales to America besides Nazism. And even the Nazis got their inspiration from American racism to begin with.
Holland is your best bet.
Or even better, take a vacation and visit The Netherlands, Germany and France and see which country you like best.
If you come here you probably wonder why we complain about anything when we live in a green bicycle paradise with the cleanest tap water, public transportation that connects every town, beautiful architecture, art, the best EDM artists, all the modern tech, internet with no bandwidth caps and a 28 hour work week on average but that's just what we do. :trumps
Oh and most of us speak English.
Vom, I'm not interested in Paris.
Vom, I'm not interested in Paris.
Vom, I'm not interested in Paris.
That's where 99% of black folks are in metropolitan France though.
I'm fairly sure the only reason french news media is not causing a similar amount of distress is because you can't read it. It's not "try ignoring the issue", more "you might run into the same problems".
Also you're in a sphere that only deals with the most sensational bullshit 24/7, how often are you talking about ANY OF THAT SHIT in normal life with random people you meet?This was closer to what I was trying to get at by mentioning French political culture. Cindi points to the voter turnout, but isn't aware that the French Left has collapsed repeatedly including recently, the French "normal" Right has too, both in scandals (like go to prison type) and incompetence. The French keep electing Presidents they despise within a year, not at our levels but at single digit support levels. They have only a slightly less FPTP type system that pushes towards two parties and those parties are increasingly turning into races pitting one-and-done technocrats vs. nationalists. And plenty of immigrant blame to go around, especially dark skinned immigrants. Front National is close enough to an electoral power that it's dragging the "traditional" right towards its positions on immigration, "law and order", Islam, etc.
Which countries are you looking at?
France, UK despite brexit, Spain, Germany, Canada.
I remember when I went to Brussels I was shocked at the levels or homelessness, it's not quite big city in America levels but pretty bad. Had a good time there too, even if the nightlife felt a little sketch.
I remember when I went to Brussels I was shocked at the levels or homelessness, it's not quite big city in America levels but pretty bad. Had a good time there too, even if the nightlife felt a little sketch.
Brussels is a coarse city by certain aspects, feels like France a stage more advanced in decay.
It's not so much that you have problems with America, Cindi. It's more about that sudden decision to go with France, even though as you agree, you aren't particularly informed about it and are handwaving lots of things because it's more like you've decided and are in filling the reasons after.
Someone sell me on Canada.
One positive is I can still learn French.
One negative is that it's still next to America.
Another positive is that it gets cold there and there's snow.
It's the ideal place but why does my heart say France? Why?! :stahp
I saw video from France of a policeman beating up a firefighter during a protest.I sawr a vid of the firefighters lighting themselves on fire, so maybe the nice policemen were just putting out the fire :cop
Grass is greener on the other side, feel free to think and plan whatever you're up to but don't place the euros on a pedestal
New York isn't ransacked every other weekend so at this point the US probably has France beat :idontGrass is greener on the other side, feel free to think and plan whatever you're up to but don't place the euros on a pedestal
Not when the other side is the US. signed - the world.
Someone sell me on Canada.
One positive is I can still learn French.
One negative is that it's still next to America.
Another positive is that it gets cold there and there's snow.
It's the ideal place but why does my heart say France? Why?! :stahp
1) nah.
2) you won’t learn French if you’re in Toronto. Or anywhere outside of Quebec.
3) that’s a positive?
4) who cares if it’s “next to” America?
Which countries are you looking at?
France, UK despite brexit, Spain, Germany, Canada.
I like to think Cindi left NL off this list specifically because of the shitty posts.
Someone sell me on Canada.
One positive is I can still learn French.
One negative is that it's still next to America.
Another positive is that it gets cold there and there's snow.
It's the ideal place but why does my heart say France? Why?! :stahp
1) nah.
2) you won’t learn French if you’re in Toronto. Or anywhere outside of Quebec.
3) that’s a positive?
4) who cares if it’s “next to” America?
Tell me about Montreal and Quebec. I hear and read so many bad things.
montreal have the best whores?
I meant whores d'oeuvre ;)montreal have the best whores?
they prefer to be called hoes, filter
Any Canadians know of good immigration firms?
https://www.visaplace.com/blog-immigration-law/success-story-photographer-gets-working-holiday-visa/
What if you speak French and go outside Montreal?
Any Canadians know of good immigration firms?
https://www.visaplace.com/blog-immigration-law/success-story-photographer-gets-working-holiday-visa/
I only know of the sketchy ones, so I can't help you there. ;)
Holland is your best bet.
Or even better, take a vacation and visit The Netherlands, Germany and France and see which country you like best.
If you come here you probably wonder why we complain about anything when we live in a green bicycle paradise with the cleanest tap water, public transportation that connects every town, beautiful architecture, art, the best EDM artists, all the modern tech, internet with no bandwidth caps and a 28 hour work week on average but that's just what we do. :trumps
Oh and most of us speak English.
Cindi, a word of advice: if someone approaches you trying to sell their religion or country to you based on the quality of their EDM music, you’re talking to some sort of scammer or conman.
Canadian French =/= French French
Tonight is the first time in months I've felt anything positive about America.okay, Michelle Obama :doge
I truly feel that this election is a proxy civil war. It's not a civil war through violence but through finding the vision of America we truly want. If Bernie wins I'll stick around to see where it all goes for a at but I'll still be preparing for a potential departure. Especially since Trump and co. are already running with RUSSIA WANTS SANDERS which will be four years of Republicans calling the election not genuine.
My cynical self thinks this could lead to violence since Fox news will run with it and those types tend to fall to violent means.
So even if Bernie wins we may very well still lose. Even more reason to get out.
it's a good state with a pleasant mix of city and nature.
Didn't you study film or something? Now all of a sudden you're a photojournalist.
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Can't wait to work my way up to Tin Tin. What level of French is required to read Tintin?Reading comics in foreign languages is a lot easier than novels. Looking at the pictures and using your English vocabulary will get you far. Once you've read Tintin you should also try Asterix, Spirou, and Lucky Luke. Belgian comics are fantastic.
Can't wait to work my way up to Tin Tin. What level of French is required to read Tintin?Reading comics in foreign languages is a lot easier than novels. Looking at the pictures and using your English vocabulary will get you far. Once you've read Tintin you should also try Asterix, Spirou, and Lucky Luke. Belgian comics are fantastic.
I imagine getting a work visa as a photographer will be difficult. Photojournalist might be easier though.
That's a smart approach. I had to read Candide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candide) in school and it was way too advanced for me.Can't wait to work my way up to Tin Tin. What level of French is required to read Tintin?Reading comics in foreign languages is a lot easier than novels. Looking at the pictures and using your English vocabulary will get you far. Once you've read Tintin you should also try Asterix, Spirou, and Lucky Luke. Belgian comics are fantastic.
I imagine getting a work visa as a photographer will be difficult. Photojournalist might be easier though.
I want to do children's books, graded readers, and comics and then move onto full on novels and hopefully poetry, by the end of the year.
I'm already a fan of Franco Belgian comics so I know which are good to start with. Thanks for the recs tho. The Incal in French :hyper
Cindi is gonna move to california and become cali sober (insane amounts of weed). She's gonna learn to surf and become a freelance animator.
Which countries are you looking at?
France, UK despite brexit, Spain, Germany, Canada.
I like to think Cindi left NL off this list specifically because of the shitty posts.
Yes. I've never had a good experience NL people and I know nothing about their culture besides the casual racism from the outside.
Sorry but nothing will change how I felt after visiting a Holocaust museum and how I feel taking pictures.
Sorry but nothing will change how I felt after visiting a Holocaust museum and how I feel taking pictures.
I am sure all those who died/survived in the Holocaust appreciate the sacrifice. ::)
Huh?
Yes, I'm pretty sure they did which is because there are so many images of it. It is the most documented Holocaust and tragedy in world history. Images change minds. They also expand worlds and show the truth. Many Jewish photographers shot within the actual camps because they realized the importance of doing so.
I said nothing of their sacrifice. I merely said visiting a Holocaust museum was very important to me and hopefully it can give me true penance from my prior racism towards white people by improving race relations.
The fact you do not see the importance of documentation or why someone would strive to document makes you look like a fool. The only reason anyone knows of many atrocities is because they were shot. Through photography I get to blend multiple pet subjects: visuals and politics/sociology.
So fuck you.
But of course, since you're a conservative we already know you'd use them as a prop. Fuck off Nazi fuck.
Huh?
Yes, I'm pretty sure they did which is because there are so many images of it. It is the most documented Holocaust and tragedy in world history. Images change minds. They also expand worlds and show the truth. Many Jewish photographers shot within the actual camps because they realized the importance of doing so.
I said nothing of their sacrifice. I merely said visiting a Holocaust museum was very important to me and hopefully it can give me true penance from my prior racism towards white people by improving race relations.
The fact you do not see the importance of documentation or why someone would strive to document makes you look like a fool. The only reason anyone knows of many atrocities is because they were shot. Through photography I get to blend multiple pet subjects: visuals and politics/sociology.
So fuck you.
Atrocities have been captured since the dawn of mankind. Why would a visit to a Holocaust Museum have anything to do with you choosing photography as a career. That is just the weak minded liberal pansy ass mentality that has you wanting to run to France. Boo Hoo, Trumpy makes me sad face. Everything is bad. Fuck you, I have an incurable disease that was named after a Nazi Doctor that did horrific shit during the Holocaust. No fun runs and ribbons for our cause. Sometimes life sucks, buck up and quit fucking crying. You have as much of a chance of moving to France as I do fucking a Super Model.
Also Vom please suggest French children's books besides Hunchback of Notre Dame. :-*TinTin is racist as absolute fuck, watch the sanitised movie and call it a day
Can't wait to work my way up to Tin Tin. What level of French is required to read Tintin?
Also you sound genuinely dumb.
Not surprising given you are a conservative. Stop wasting my e-space, Nazi. Get out of my sight.
Also Vom please suggest French children's books besides Hunchback of Notre Dame. :-*TinTin is racist as absolute fuck, watch the sanitised movie and call it a day
Can't wait to work my way up to Tin Tin. What level of French is required to read Tintin?
TinTin is racist as absolute fuck, watch the sanitised movie and call it a day
TinTin is racist as absolute fuck, watch the sanitised movie and call it a day
Tintin au Congo is but the rest of the series is mostly fine.
Once you've read Tintin you should also try Asterix, Spirou, and Lucky Luke. Belgian comics are fantastic.
you're also hotnot really, but I'm generally social and kinda funny in person 😂
How the fuck did this thread go from
The odds of Trump winning again to
Cindi hates America
to Cindi is definitely going to move to France
to Cindi might move to Montreal instead
to Cindi is going to move to France and start a business
to Cindi is going to learn French via cartoons and comics
to Cindi will stick around for a while if Bernie wins
to Cindi is definitely moving to France to start a photojournalism career and heal race relations the world over via photography
Can’t wait for the Cindi heel turn of insulting holocaust victims :klob
https://twitter.com/AgBioWorld/status/1231657700372684801
Last week I watched an ambulance desperately trying to get through the wall of cars on the highway and just barely making it through.
'Murica :fbm
bork lives in atlanta, right? traffic there is :stahp
lol bork lives in the same city-state of millions of people as Nepenthe
Georgia also hampers ATL's mass transit efforts.bork lives in atlanta, right? traffic there is :stahp
It sucks so bad and is only getting worse and worse every year. Can't stand it.
:rage
How the fuck did this thread go from
The odds of Trump winning again to
Cindi hates America
to Cindi is definitely going to move to France
to Cindi might move to Montreal instead
to Cindi is going to move to France and start a business
to Cindi is going to learn French via cartoons and comics
to Cindi will stick around for a while if Bernie wins
to Cindi is definitely moving to France to start a photojournalism career and heal race relations the world over via photography
https://twitter.com/AgBioWorld/status/1231657700372684801Germans have some experience in lining up alright :hmph
Last week I watched an ambulance desperately trying to get through the wall of cars on the highway and just barely making it through.
'Murica :fbm
Cindy: Fluent in Japanese
Cindy: Only ever been to Mexico
:-\
LOL you guys only figuring out now that Nepenthe is actually bork? :neogaf
edit: oh shit oh fuck this isn't the members-only board. Sorry for blowing your cover borky :'(
https://twitter.com/AgBioWorld/status/1231657700372684801Hardly works out like that everytime.
Last week I watched an ambulance desperately trying to get through the wall of cars on the highway and just barely making it through.
'Murica :fbm
Stupid American :lol
You're gonna have a rough time in France :-*
Stupid American :lol
You're gonna have a rough time in France :-*
For a non American you seem very American. With your selfish, cutting "got mine", "you're lower than me" type values. You'd fit in with cesspit.
Your argument about language is frankly stupid. I have talked to many non Americans online over the years. Swedish people and Germans and Saudis who have barely even been to America yet spoke the language very well. Hell, take Duckroll. Dude is Singaporean and has better English than you. Yet to my knowledge has never lived in America beyond a visit.
Your ignorance is palpable and very American. By all means move to America. You'd fit in.
For a non American you seem very American. With your selfish, cutting "got mine", "you're lower than me" type values.:dead
Your argument about language is frankly stupid. I have talked to many non Americans online over the years. Swedish people and Germans and Saudis who have barely even been to America yet spoke the language very well. Hell, take Duckroll. Dude is Singaporean and has better English than you. Yet to my knowledge has never lived in America beyond a visit.Wait, what does visiting America have to do with speaking English? There's like fifty countries with it as the official language, it's still the primary international language, it's the secondary language for most of the globe due to the British Empire, etc.
The French aren't known for being selfish, judgmental assholes or anything :lol
Your argument about language is frankly stupid. I have talked to many non Americans online over the years. Swedish people and Germans and Saudis who have barely even been to America yet spoke the language very well. Hell, take Duckroll. Dude is Singaporean and has better English than you. Yet to my knowledge has never lived in America beyond a visit.Wait, what does visiting America have to do with speaking English? There's like fifty countries with it as the official language, it's still the primary international language, it's the secondary language for most of the globe due to the British Empire, etc.
Lol America is the most charitable country in the Western worlda bone to the dog is not charity ::)
America is a broken, selfish pit of a country. Flint proves it. BLM proves it. The fact they bailed out the rich during a great recession proved it. The endless wars. The endless excuses. The lack of progress. Trickle down. "Why should I pay a price for people that aren't alive?" Nothing gets done because money trumps all. It seeps into every facet of America. From our predisposition towards mediocrity and just "getting the job done" to the upper echelon of politics.This is almost like every complaint about France I've heard from French people.
Lol America is the most charitable country in the Western world
Idk I went to Rome about 12 years ago and the traffic was wilder than anywhere I'd ever been to in the US, including driving through Atlanta and NYC. Perhaps influenced by how there apparently are no such things as traffic laws over there.
I would rank France about equally as bad as the US in terms of foreign policy. Vietnam, Algeria, the Suez crisis, Libya, the way it treats other members of the Eurozone... what they did to Thomas Sankara :tocry
nice little social democracy though. if you want a higher minimum wage and strong labor laws you could always consider CALIFORNIA
I would rank France about equally as bad as the US in terms of foreign policy. Vietnam, Algeria, the Suez crisis, Libya, the way it treats other members of the Eurozone... what they did to Thomas Sankara :tocry
nice little social democracy though. if you want a higher minimum wage and strong labor laws you could always consider CALIFORNIA
I would rank France about equally as bad as the US in terms of foreign policy. Vietnam, Algeria, the Suez crisis, Libya, the way it treats other members of the Eurozone... what they did to Thomas Sankara :tocry
nice little social democracy though. if you want a higher minimum wage and strong labor laws you could always consider CALIFORNIA
Unfortunately there's no perfect option here. Canada's history and present with Native Americans is especially heinous. As far as I'm concerned picking any Western country will not be free of imperialism as it is baked into their cultures. However, from what I see, they're still far better off than America.
She should probably actually go abroad once in her life before deciding she wants to live in a different country.
White lives don't matter, but the picture is of a brown guy from the Middle East
:hmm
She should probably actually go abroad once in her life before deciding she wants to live in a different country.
Yes, absolutely- I went to Japan a couple of times and studied there for a month before I decided I wanted to go move there. Also took classes all throughout college and it definitely helped to be able to get around and do things some of the other foreigners couldn't without assistance from English speakers.
But visiting a country and living there are different experiences too. You're most likely not going to experience the negatives when doing the former.
I'm just being skeptical and pointing out that lots of the complaints are the same shit in France, which she has seemed to pick first and is trying to justify after. Just say you want to move to France because you want to move to France, whys it gotta be some kind of ideological revolt against a personal idea of "what America means"? Besides,
:american LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT :american
She should probably actually go abroad once in her life before deciding she wants to live in a different country.
I would rank France about equally as bad as the US in terms of foreign policy. Vietnam, Algeria, the Suez crisis, Libya, the way it treats other members of the Eurozone... what they did to Thomas Sankara :tocry
nice little social democracy though. if you want a higher minimum wage and strong labor laws you could always consider CALIFORNIA
Unfortunately there's no perfect option here. Canada's history and present with Native Americans is especially heinous. As far as I'm concerned picking any Western country will not be free of imperialism as it is baked into their cultures. However, from what I see, they're still far better off than America.
I think it's great that you want to live abroad and highly recommend it, but I don't know if doing it to 'escape' the shit you don't like is going to work out very well.
The naysayers in this thread are being ridiculous- if Cindi wants to go try living in another country, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not an 'impossible' thing to do, and it's not like she can't move back to the States anyway if she does it and doesn't like it.
Scratch that, moving to Azerbaijan is my new goal. They basically lifted the entire German civil law, plus it‘s a crooked banana republic style dictatorship, so there is money to be made. :successFACT CHECK: "Since the latest presidential elections, Ilham Aliyev’s rating and voter confidence has increased according to the survey result conducted by “Opinion Way” company in April 2019. His activities have been evaluated as “positive” by more than 85% of the respondents."
Scratch that, moving to Azerbaijan is my new goal. They basically lifted the entire German civil law, plus it‘s a crooked banana republic style dictatorship, so there is money to be made. :successFACT CHECK: "Since the latest presidential elections, Ilham Aliyev’s rating and voter confidence has increased according to the survey result conducted by “Opinion Way” company in April 2019. His activities have been evaluated as “positive” by more than 85% of the respondents."
In 2012, the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project called Ilham Aliyev the corruptor of the year.:dead
In the 2019 Doing Business report, Azerbaijan climbed 32 spots in comparison with 2017 to rank 25th among 190 states this year, topping CIS counties
You know this thread was made with a faulty premise to begin with. The odds of Trump winning in 2016 were completely wrong and you can't trust them this time either.Another failed Occam project, just like his eugenics plan.
https://twitter.com/LeighStewy/status/1231679391777902594
White lives don't matter, but the picture is of a brown guy from the Middle East
:hmm
FACT CHECK: Judea before the Arab invasion was most likely populated by people who looked like modern day Greeks or southern Italians. :ufup :karen
I think it's great that you want to live abroad and highly recommend it, but I don't know if doing it to 'escape' the shit you don't like is going to work out very well.
The naysayers in this thread are being ridiculous- if Cindi wants to go try living in another country, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not an 'impossible' thing to do, and it's not like she can't move back to the States anyway if she does it and doesn't like it.
It's not to escape. It's because I legitimately dislike America. I do not want to stay in the future and I think the reasons inhsve given should suffice.
Bork the naysayers are like that because they're American where people only know how to cut down. Like I said before, selfish. If my friend said they wanted to leave I'd be supportive. Crabs in a bucket: the country. The responses actually give me more reason to leave as it reminds how Americans are really like.
I think it's great that you want to live abroad and highly recommend it, but I don't know if doing it to 'escape' the shit you don't like is going to work out very well.
The naysayers in this thread are being ridiculous- if Cindi wants to go try living in another country, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not an 'impossible' thing to do, and it's not like she can't move back to the States anyway if she does it and doesn't like it.
It's not to escape. It's because I legitimately dislike America. I do not want to stay in the future and I think the reasons inhsve given should suffice.
That's what I meant by 'escape.'
I think it's great that you want to live abroad and highly recommend it, but I don't know if doing it to 'escape' the shit you don't like is going to work out very well.
The naysayers in this thread are being ridiculous- if Cindi wants to go try living in another country, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not an 'impossible' thing to do, and it's not like she can't move back to the States anyway if she does it and doesn't like it.
It's not to escape. It's because I legitimately dislike America. I do not want to stay in the future and I think the reasons inhsve given should suffice.
That's what I meant by 'escape.'
Who cares. There are numerous stories of Americans - particularly black Americans - living very well abroad by escaping the tyranny of American life.
In any case I will see for myself as I visit abroad this year.
If I wanted to emigrate to another country in Europe it would be Switzerland.Beautiful country and great quality of life, but their stance towards people immigrating into Switzerland?
I‘d live under the poverty line there though with my current salary. :stahp
If I wanted to emigrate to another country in Europe it would be Switzerland.Beautiful country and great quality of life, but their stance towards people immigrating into Switzerland?
I‘d live under the poverty line there though with my current salary. :stahp
Nah, I'll rather stay here.
Fuck the French! Pansy ass bitchesPastry ass bitches :mouf
She wants to go to France, not Scotland. :teehee
It also isn't any wonder that it's the NON Americans that are supportive and understanding, proving the point and showing the difference in values. Or in the Americans' case, the lack thereof.
She wants to go to France, not Scotland. :teehee
Whut thee fook yu just ay ye limey cunt!?It also isn't any wonder that it's the NON Americans that are supportive and understanding, proving the point and showing the difference in values. Or in the Americans' case, the lack thereof.
:yikes
Some of us aren't being "negative" for your reasons, valid as they are. Some of us are being "negative," because we think you might possibly be overreacting as you sometimes tend to do, and I say that with love. If you want to move: More power to you. But saying "things will be better in <country here>! Unlike these stinky Americans!!!!" is missing what we're getting at completely: Shit will still be the same, some things will improve, some things will be worse. But life is what you make of it, no matter where you are.
That might sound like an empty platitude, but I'm seriously asking you to consider things and not just go "oh things will be better in France!" when France has their own kettle of fish/problems to deal with.
And also that country has been rioting for how many months straight now5,370 or so
I think they think you just want to up and move immediately or something, dunno.
But I also see the other side of the "argument" going on here- you're hating on Americans but you've never experienced what it's like to live elsewhere. I can certainly tell you from personal experience that assholes are everywhere and moving to another country is not going to solve that problem. :P
fter granting same-sex couples domestic partnership benefits known as the civil solidarity pact, France became the thirteenth country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage in 2013. Laws prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity were enacted in 1985 and 2012, respectively. In 2010, France became the first country in the world to declassify transgenderism as a mental illness. Additionally, since 2017, transgender people have been allowed to change their legal gender without undergoing surgery or receiving any medical diagnosis.[2]
France has frequently been named one of the most gay friendly countries in the world.[2] Recent polls have indicated that a majority of the French support same-sex marriage and in 2013,[3] another poll indicated that 77% of the French population believed homosexuality should be accepted by society, one of the highest in the 39 countries polled
In 2017, transphobia became a cause of aggravation for all crimes that can be punished by prison.[76]
In 1985, national legislation was enacted to prohibit sexual orientation based discrimination in employment, housing and other public and private provisions of services and goods.[2] In July 2012, the French Parliament added sexual identity to the protected grounds of discrimination in French law. The phrase sexual identity was used synonymous with gender identity despite some criticism from ILGA-Europe, who nevertheless still considered it an important step.[49][50] On 18 November 2016, a new law amended article 225-1 of the French Penal Code and replaced "sexual identity" with "gender identity".[51]
Bork the naysayers are like that because they're American where people only know how to cut down.
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Says the cishet online commie that works an extremely high paying job in SoCal.
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See, this is what I'm talking about. Even the commies, who pretend by the way, to care about other peoples rights undermine and belittle it because liberalism. Where you care more about commie history and memes than actual people.accusing esch of not caring about trans people is seriously wack. cool your jets.
I would rank France about equally as bad as the US in terms of foreign policy. Vietnam, Algeria, the Suez crisis, Libya, the way it treats other members of the Eurozone... what they did to Thomas Sankara :tocry
nice little social democracy though. if you want a higher minimum wage and strong labor laws you could always consider CALIFORNIA
Given, IIRC, France was important in annoying the British enough to ensure American independence and gifted them the penultimate American idol. Is France therefore not liable for every American sin and crime :thinking
tulsi as vp imo :pimpid pick moblin as secretary of likes and throw nintex and filler in jail for war crimes
filler as secretary of likes :rejoice
Benji:
France because my number one pick - UK - is going through the whole brexit thing, Canada is too hard to immigrate to and has less opportunities, and I'm not sure on Germany or Spain but they are still under consideration.
Did you check the unemployment rate in France?https://think.ing.com/articles/france-2019-unemployment-reaches-a-10-year-low/
It sits at 8.5% and keeps gong up.
so its under 8%, expected to go back up to 8.5% and stay stagnant by the end of the year? dunno if that's much better :lolThat's not the point. Nintex said unemployment keeps going up--it has been on slow and unimpressive decline since 2015. :karen
so its under 8%, expected to go back up to 8.5% and stay stagnant by the end of the year? dunno if that's much better :lolThat's not the point. Nintex said unemployment keeps going up--it has been on slow and unimpressive decline since 2015. :karen
I love that the Amy emoji is getting so much use :lol truly the pinnacle of this forum
I think our boy vom voted for La France Insoumise :francecry
They "won" but they lost a seat compared to the prior election and got a worse %. And it was still well under the 25-30% that FN tends to poll around.
They'll need a new figurehead, which gives Macron enough time to unfuck the riot situation in France.maybe he can start by not trying to cut French pensions
Oh, just remembered, Cindi, have you considered Ireland at all? Since the UK is your "preferred but" and it's literally right next to it.
7 pages for a major life change cindi is going to move on from within 12 months to the next major decision made during a manic episode seems a bit silly.
Oh, just remembered, Cindi, have you considered Ireland at all? Since the UK is your "preferred but" and it's literally right next to it.
I really haven't. I tend to favor multicultural metropolitan hubs with lots of diversity. Ireland isn't much of a diverse place. The population is 94.3% white. TVC suggested Asian countries but similarly I'm not down for those for the same reason.
Also, unfortunately, I - for some reason - believe in France. This is utter idealization. But it happened every since High School and we studied AP American History to learn how France helped America, gave us the Statue of Liberty (and she was BLACK!) all while the whole Freedom Fries thing was happening and I agreed with France's decision. I know it's stupid, naive, and extremely romantic but I believe in France. I do not, however, believe in America. The fact that Trump has pressured Germany and France to up their NATO spending after 28-29 years of static defense budget just makes me believe in them even more. The fact there was dissent when raising the budget, when I live in an America that spends over 700 billion on it, just raises my respect further.
I have no idea where or how I got these feelings for France, but I have them in the same way many immigrants that move to America feel about America.
I love that the Amy emoji is getting so much use :lol truly the pinnacle of this forum
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If a recession is triggered because of coronavirus, that should greatly reduce Trump's chances in November.History shows that during recessions people are more likely to vote conservative.
Voters may also rethink this whole "medicare for all is socialism" idiocy when their lives are threatened.
See, there's a silver lining.
You have higher odds of disliking cilantro
Dublin's only like 85% white!