He and his enablers need to be made an example of. I don't know what that entails, but it needs to be made plain to everyone who comes after them that this kind of governance is unacceptable in America.
The guy has made some mistakes sure, but whatever happened to second chances?
I think what's wilder is that half(ish) the country doesn't even give a shit and support his moves to own the libs aka people not like them. Every Republican should be flipping the fuck out right now, but I haven't seen shit from any Republicans about Portland and sending in the mini van goon squad into other cities and how they're mighty quiet on the one time the 2nd Amendment directly applies to a modern and on going situation.
I think what's wilder is that half(ish) the country doesn't even give a shit and support his moves to own the libs aka people not like them. Every Republican should be flipping the fuck out right now, but I haven't seen shit from any Republicans about Portland and sending in the mini van goon squad into other cities and how they're mighty quiet on the one time the 2nd Amendment directly applies to a modern and on going situation.
ngl, I think that reaction is wild when you consider that the US has done far worse extralegal shit like kidnappings, torture and executions overseas for decades.
Honestly the WHERE ARE THE 2A PEOPLE?! from liberals is hilarious.
Just a few months ago I was told there's no need for guns. Now you're calling on gun supporters to fight your fights for you.
ngl, I think that reaction is wild when you consider that the US has done far worse extralegal shit like kidnappings, torture and executions overseas for decades.
I get it, it‘s not directed at your citizens in your country, but government agencies bending the law is just the status quo as far as I am concerned.
i mean i think Dems lack of action is coming from the same place as the idea that they should still be pursuing conservative white people for their votes. they could do something better, but they see this as the best course of action. i'm sure they'll fight if and when trump decides the election is illegitimate, but i don't think it'll matter at that point.
I don't buy that they don't know how to respond.
They SHOULD know how to respond. They are lifelong career politicians and they have a lot of cashflow, and they have sufficient enough infrastructure + are supported by America's effect two-party system.
I can't help but examine the sheer silence and lack of voice or presence during extreme points of converging crisis to be seen as intentional... to essentially let Trump speak for himself instead of come out with a message.
I sincerely despise whatever the fuck is going on, Twitter/YouTube is leading the nation's political reaction more than any leadership or platform by Democrats. That's "sad!"
Trump is definitely using his platform to effectively control a malleable base with ease, I don't buy that Democrats simply aren't a coalition or that they're too big :brain to follow suit
i mean i think Dems lack of action is coming from the same place as the idea that they should still be pursuing conservative white people for their votes. they could do something better, but they see this as the best course of action. i'm sure they'll fight if and when trump decides the election is illegitimate, but i don't think it'll matter at that point.
But...they DO need conservative white people to win. They are precisely the people that lost them the Midwest and therefore the election.
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been a good long while since we’ve had a “fascism: what is it?” thread.I'll not help. My general contention of wank dad pedantry is that most view it the wrong way around, especially in popular "philosophy"/politics, and focus on the actions of a state which is always self-justifying. The real heart and core is more about the sacrifice of the individual to the will of the state, because it is through the state from which life itself is given its meaning. Fascism never claimed an eventual state of utopia from struggle, it claimed the state and the struggle itself was inherently utopian.
The Fascist State, as a higher and more powerful expression of personality, is a force, but a spiritual one. It sums up all the manifestations of the moral and intellectual life of man. Its functions cannot therefore be limited to those of enforcing order and keeping the peace, as the liberal doctrine had it. It is no mere mechanical device for defining the sphere within which the individual may duly exercise his supposed rights. The Fascist State is an inwardly accepted standard and rule of conduct, a discipline of the whole person; it permeates the will no less than the intellect. It stands for a principle which becomes the central motive of man as a member of civilized society, sinking deep down into his personality; it dwells in the heart of the man of action and of the thinker, of the artist and of the man of science: soul of the soul
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" I don't care a damn „ (me ne frego) - the proud motto of the fighting squads scrawled by a wounded man on his bandages, is not only an act of philosophic stoicism, it sums up a doctrine which is not merely political: it is evidence of a fighting spirit which accepts all risks. It signifies new style of Italian life. The Fascist accepts and loves life; he rejects and despises suicide as cowardly. Life as he understands it means duty, elevation, conquest; life must be lofty and full, it must be lived for oneself but above all for others, both near bye and far off, present and future.
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The Fascist State is, however, a unique and original creation. It is not reactionary but revolutionary, for it anticipates the solution of certain universal problems which have been raised elsewhere, in the political field by the splitting up of parties, the usurpation of power by parliaments, the irresponsibility of assemblies; in the economic field by the increasingly numerous and important functions discharged by trade unions and trade associations with their disputes and ententes, affecting both capital and labor; in the ethical field by the need felt for order, discipline, obedience to the moral dictates of patriotism.
Fascism desires the State to be strong and organic, based on broad foundations of popular support. The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporative, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organized in their respective associations, circulate within the State. A State based on millions of individuals who recognize its authority, feel its action, and are ready to serve its ends is not the tyrannical state of a mediaeval lordling. It has nothing in common with the despotic States existing prior to or subsequent to 1789.
Far from crushing the individual, the Fascist State multiplies his energies, just as in a regiment a soldier is not diminished but multiplied by the number of his fellow soldiers. The Fascist State organizes the nation, but it leaves the individual adequate elbow room. It has curtailed useless or harmful liberties while preserving those which are essential. In such matters the individual cannot be the judge, but the State only.
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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.
You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps
Thank god you're back, who the hell did we sacrifice to make that happen
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when people disparagingly use fascist they're purely referring to the state's natural will to exert its power and cause people to conform, with the insinuation that it's being done to promote someone's injustice rule... not necessarily emulate Fascism as a political machine nor a hyper-competent state willing to carry out the leader's rule.We're just saying fascism used to mean something. It wasn't just authoritarianism. Fascism is and should be treated as more specific and namely totalitarian in worldview. The central argument of fascism makes certain claims fundamentally about the individual and their relationship with the state. Fascism's construction and compromises were far more insidious than general strong man authoritarianism is. There's fascist elements to Trump, but there also were to Obama, and every Administration for the last century plus either had them or the Presidents possessed them personally as proto-fascists. Yet the system hasn't fallen into a broad general authoritarianism, not even today. Biden winning, even if he changes none of this, alone precludes that. As does the 50 individual state elections on down.
It's rather dumb, but a musician or artist "sticking it to the fascists" are really just sticking it to the police/higher powers/proponents of the law etc.
State fetishism and subversion of the individual to an all encompassing ideology doesn't really work to describe third-world coup d'etats, or any of the reactionary anti-communist movements, and it especially doesn't describe Donald Trump. But illiberalism, specific economic conditions, racism, reactionary nationalism, religious or mythological syncretism, and an endangered propertied class, those all produce a much more satisfying analysis applicable to a much wider variety of regimes that still clearly belong to the same ideological family.Third world coups, anti-communist movements/paramilitaries, etc. are products historically of non-fascist states more than fascist states. Illiberalism, reactionary nationalism, syncretism of many types, etc. all are pretty good fascist tropes, and even better, the Doctrine spends plenty of time on all of those with little comparative time on anti-communism aside from typical totalitarian infighting.
What are you teaching the poor children of Michigan? :doge
For me at least [the worst part of fascism is] the ideology, not the obvious actions that came out of it.invigorated by herr benji’s spirited case here against freedom of thought and expression :american
Liberals in charge: Don't Tread On Me
Conservatives in charge: Tread on me bb :lawd
ngl, I think that reaction is wild when you consider that the US has done far worse extralegal shit like kidnappings, torture and executions overseas for decades.
I get it, it‘s not directed at your citizens in your country, but government agencies bending the law is just the status quo as far as I am concerned.
. I just think you're focusing on the wrong thing, as important as that thing might seem.
And yet there were governments which had maybe 95% of the distinguishing characteristics of fascist authoritarianism but nonetheless were not totalitarian. Is the shorthand for this family of political tendencies really such a crime? Does it really lessen the word when people use it to describe reactionary conservative movements? Even when they end up in the same place?This isn't a gotcha type thing but I want to get on the same wavelength so I'm going to ask for a few examples of what you have in mind. Because they may not be at all what I'm thinking of.
Well that's why I said the actions are more important because fascists spent almost all of their time before seizing power and immediately after whipping themselves into a frenzy over communists.Not anymore than they did against the other groups they sought to displace. The main thing with the Communists was tied to how the Communists actually were willing to physically resist them and take up arms. Most everyone else was willing to compromise believing it was a non-existential threat.
I just think you're focusing on the wrong thing, as important as that thing might seem.Maybe, but different governments provide different civ-wide stat bonuses especially when combined with how they change the specific policy choices available.
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
Trump is using undercover federal agents to arrest protesters in certain cities.
Federal Agents kidnapping protestors in Portland (and Seattle IIRC). I haven't been paying too much attention to it since the news is BARELY covering it, if ever.The CBP is operating in their legal 100 mile zone to arrest terrorists and anarchists under both a Trump Presidential directive and an Obama Administration administrative court ruling upholding the 100 mile zone, both of which were originally introduced by the Bush Administration to protect us after 9/11. Complaining about it is being divisive and undermining national security. Consider yourselves both reported.
Where do I signup to get a 100 mile zone around my house where I can abduct people in a van without any form accountability or identification.
Asking for a friend.
:James :pika
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?shosta got mad at benji in an argument and shosta got so owned that he sent Kara a direct message on Facebook calling for backup
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.
You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps
The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."
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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.
You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps
The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."
return from the blue to dunk on bis, again
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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.
You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps
The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."
return from the blue to dunk on bis, again
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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.
You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps
The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."
return from the blue to dunk on bis, again
I posted about the above the line tax deduction for education expenses the other day. :pacspit
We defeated fascism at the primary polls already, our weapon was Joe Biden Thought. (https://i.imgur.com/KeOTBej_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/098/628/d6c.png)
I agree with Vom. All of the trends in American polity are irreversible and electing Biden won't change our future.
Otherwise we're due for a carrousel of "saviours" who won't live to the expectations at best, or leverage the personality cult for heinous policies.That's been both of us friend since after the wars.
You seriously think a small handful of protesters yelling at state legislators is a prelude to civil war?
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Full fascist would entail stuff like other parties being disbanded and holding sham elections.
You still got ways to go, but maybe you‘ll get there :trumps
The U.S. always has sham elections, are you just talking out of your ass again or is this you "trolling."
edityour wish is my command
The central argument of fascism makes certain claims fundamentally about the individual and their relationship with the state.
I took curly's advice to heart and didn't read any of this shit :smug
I'm so sorry. :tocry
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People have a tendency to say that fascism (or communism I guess) are the opposite of things they like but good to see it realized in academia.
Anyway some good stuff from curly/shomsta/kara as always but we haven't really touched on the economic dimension of fascism yet... Understandable since the United States already projects force at nearby states and internal groups to extract wealth as it's normal function, guess it won't be obvious till we send tanks into Manitoba or wherever arvie lives during our death throes and force him to work for free or periphery wages at the Coca Cola factory.
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People have a tendency to say that fascism (or communism I guess) are the opposite of things they like but good to see it realized in academia.
Anyway some good stuff from curly/shomsta/kara as always but we haven't really touched on the economic dimension of fascism yet... Understandable since the United States already projects force at nearby states and internal groups to extract wealth as it's normal function, guess it won't be obvious till we send tanks into Manitoba or wherever arvie lives during our death throes and force him to work for free or periphery wages at the Coca Cola factory.
Tbh to simply describe fascism as the ultimate form of capitalism is just intellectually lazy and a major gripe I had with a lot of Marxist scholars.
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
Federal Agents kidnapping protestors in Portland (and Seattle IIRC). I haven't been paying too much attention to it since the news is BARELY covering it, if ever.
MSNBC has been covering this for days, on every hour and show of the day ::)
I think what's wilder is that half(ish) the country doesn't even give a shit and support his moves to own the libs aka people not like them. Every Republican should be flipping the fuck out right now, but I haven't seen shit from any Republicans about Portland and sending in the mini van goon squad into other cities and how they're mighty quiet on the one time the 2nd Amendment directly applies to a modern and on going situation.
The political system is US is so fucked. How is it possible you only have creepy uncle Joe and dictator idiot Trump as choices?
Both seem fucking terrible to me.
Also the fascism thing is kinda sterile and academic. I get the impulse to be a pedant but can we all agree democratic checks and balance (among other things) eroded significantly under Trump ?
Ultimately I think a way out is finding a new modulation of politics. I don't know if it's switching back to a more parliament based regime or moving to more direct democracy because new technologies maybe make that old canard more viable than it used to be. I don't think devolving everything back to local level is the milk and honey solution to fix problems but shorter, sustainable circuits & al. have been trending for a while in other domains of thoughts.Finding the will to change the political system requires an independence of thought and a willingness to break with the existing order of things that people just don't have yet. But with the way things are, if they do get to that point in their political maturation, they're not going to try to reform the United States, they'll try burning it down.
Because otherwise I'm not seeing anywhere any third way / centrist / liberal really turning the tide, at best slowing for a while the drift to the far right.
I think the USA is kinda in a bad place between the fetishism for the original texts of the founders
Let's be real. There is no real intellectual engagement with the American revolution. It's just a setpiece for the mythology the nation.
I don't know about this. He clearly has a racial and cultural agenda that goes well beyond what the business class desires from the federal government.
The political system is US is so fucked. How is it possible you only have creepy uncle Joe and dictator idiot Trump as choices?
Both seem fucking terrible to me.
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.
ngl i was/still am half expecting the trump saga to end with him getting assassinated, and now the the q crowd are losing faith in him :doge
This:
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1285690246466801671
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.
ngl i was/still am half expecting the trump saga to end with him getting assassinated, and now the the q crowd are losing faith in him :doge
If he gets assassinated then he becomes a Martyr and Trumpism lives on and will become more violent. It's the last thing you want. You want to defeat him legally through legal channels via voting or his movement will grow bigger.
What do you mean q crowd are losing faith in him? I don't follow them.
America won't change unless there's a war or a cataclysmic event that forces change and given Coronavirus should have been that cataclysmic event that forces the country to work together, I think we are heading for war. In a few years time, its time scale increasingly dependent on the outcome of the 2020 election, there will be small scale level of violence where conservatives and those that disagree with them cross with each other. . So mostly suburbs. This doesn't mean all out war, but there will be small cases of violence. It'll probably take the assassination of a high key politician on a specific side for there to build into actual war.
ngl i was/still am half expecting the trump saga to end with him getting assassinated, and now the the q crowd are losing faith in him :doge
If he gets assassinated then he becomes a Martyr and Trumpism lives on and will become more violent. It's the last thing you want. You want to defeat him legally through legal channels via voting or his movement will grow bigger.
What do you mean q crowd are losing faith in him? I don't follow them.
the swamp remains undrained, some of those people are catching on
i don't think trump being killed would be good at all, theres your civil war catalyst right there, but these are crazy times and america has a lot of lunatics with access to weapons :trumps
I don't think the Q people are really losing faith in him. They're getting more restless and impatient however. Most of them will do some Olympics level gymnastic to absolve him (especially if he is voted out) but they will lash out at something, the supposed cabal or the people who "failed" Trump.
I think the ramp up for violence was probably on its way, Trump or not. Some people were already way into delusional territory because of Obama existing. Trump certainly accelerated things.
Where's hungrynoob when you need him.
Where's hungrynoob when you need him.
Where's hungrynoob when you need him.
Do we really, though?
this was the most worthless discussion possible on this topic; good job all
Also the fascism thing is kinda sterile and academic. I get the impulse to be a pedant but can we all agree democratic checks and balance (among other things) eroded significantly under Trump ?
This topic tends towards inanity by virtue of the fact that it treats fascism as something begotten, not made, which is to say only reproducing itself in a like manner. Analyzing past fascist movements is instructive, but ignoring their developments since then is frankly not very dialectical. (This of course excludes the people who use such discussions to show off their latest strawmen for sale.) Consequently the definitions that get bandied about either come to resemble an amorphous blob (if evolutions are contemplated) or are hopelessly out of date.
late to the party on this one but critical support to comrade kara for coming out of occultation to smack benji for trying to smuggle in a nolan chart analysis when ostensibly just calling balls and strikes (mandark chipped in too) and also bismarckie, whose deutschchauvinismus has always been more annoying than anything any dutchman’s posted on this board. rip in power until next time the tax code comes up, breh(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/aqDwC.png)
late to the party on this one but critical support to comrade kara for coming out of occultation to smack benji for trying to smuggle in a nolan chart analysis when ostensibly just calling balls and strikes (mandark chipped in too) and also bismarckie, whose deutschchauvinismus has always been more annoying than anything any dutchman’s posted on this board. rip in power until next time the tax code comes up, breh(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/aqDwC.png)
Just where does that animosity come from?
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
Federal Agents kidnapping protestors in Portland (and Seattle IIRC). I haven't been paying too much attention to it since the news is BARELY covering it, if ever.
MSNBC has been covering this for days, on every hour and show of the day ::)
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
Federal Agents kidnapping protestors in Portland (and Seattle IIRC). I haven't been paying too much attention to it since the news is BARELY covering it, if ever.
MSNBC has been covering this for days, on every hour and show of the day ::)
That doesn’t disprove TIMU’s assertion that the news isn’t covering the federal kidnappings :thinking
This of course excludes the people who use such discussions to show off their latest strawmen for sale.) Consequently the definitions that get bandied about either come to resemble an amorphous blob (if evolutions are contemplated) or are hopelessly out of date.
There are stories referencing federal agents in Portland throwing people into unmarked vans from CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, ABC News, and CBS News.
Caca poopoo
Am Deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen. :letsfukkCaca poopoo
Being called deutsch-chauvinist, even if done jokingly, hurt me more than I would care to admit :gloomy
[spoiler (click to show/hide)Google translate makes a hash of this, but it's pretty good. :lol[close]
I've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
Federal Agents kidnapping protestors in Portland (and Seattle IIRC). I haven't been paying too much attention to it since the news is BARELY covering it, if ever.
Lmao if you read the news no fucking way, it's all over the internet and media coverage: either printed or online. If anything conservative media is the one that's quiet because they are more concerned with Cheney breaking rank. So are you admitting to being a Fox watcher?
having a news source other than the tweets filler posts on here :girlaff
Caca poopoo
Being called deutsch-chauvinist, even if done jokingly, hurt me more than I would care to admit :gloomy
Lmao if you read the news no fucking way, it's all over the internet and media coverage: either printed or online. If anything conservative media is the one that's quiet because they are more concerned with Cheney breaking rank. So are you admitting to being a Fox watcher?
More like non-watcher.
Google News has nothing about the protests any time I check. Might be personalized, but even then the times I check is incognito/non-logged in. So 🤷♂️
that...that's not what it was supposed to be read as?
there's fascist elements in modern american political discourse, but the actual tendency seems to be towards oligarchy and thus feudalism. from feudalism is capitalism born, and so it returns, now with technopriests. hell, there seems to be a desire among the peasants for a king, so maybe we'll get a monarchy out of it.
capitalism, communism, fascism: all are too academic for the brood-creatures and mud-dwellers of the masses to internalize. nothing with any ideological complexity can form a legitimate tendency, despite all the clever rationales of the twitterati. so many words to paper over a nasty truth: people are, in aggregate, fucking tribal and stupid -- and the masses, even slightly freed from the cognitive terror of education, push for lords and zaddies to set and enforce comfortable norms.
also, secret police forces are hardly the exclusive province of fascists. i mean, it's not like our own police forces didn't originate in the shadow patrols of the oligarchic, quasi-feudal south.
I could write a post citing shadowy cabals of concentrated power as the source of society's ills
there's fascist elements in modern american political discourse, but the actual tendency seems to be towards oligarchy and thus feudalism. from feudalism is capitalism born, and so it returns, now with technopriests. hell, there seems to be a desire among the peasants for a king, so maybe we'll get a monarchy out of it. democracy and the republic are rhetorical contrivances that gave us 200 years of ennobling sentiment to try and rally around, but murka was born from and with a love of feudalism, and that has slowly eroded our high-falutin' ideals.
capitalism, communism, libertarianism, fascism: all are too academic for the brood-creatures and mud-dwellers of the masses to internalize. nothing with any ideological complexity can form a legitimate tendency, despite all the clever rationales of the twitterati. so many words to paper over a nasty truth: people are, in aggregate, fucking tribal and stupid -- and the masses, even slightly freed from the cognitive terror of education, push for lords and zaddies to set and enforce comfortable norms.
also, secret police forces are hardly the exclusive province of fascists. i mean, it's not like our own police forces didn't originate in the shadow patrols of the oligarchic, quasi-feudal south.
Caca poopoo
Being called deutsch-chauvinist, even if done jokingly, hurt me more than I would care to admit :gloomy
Best of luck on your future move to China (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Land) or your new position at Palantir, Drinky.
there's fascist elements in modern american political discourse, but the actual tendency seems to be towards oligarchy and thus feudalism. from feudalism is capitalism born, and so it returns, now with technopriests. hell, there seems to be a desire among the peasants for a king, so maybe we'll get a monarchy out of it. democracy and the republic are rhetorical contrivances that gave us 200 years of ennobling sentiment to try and rally around, but murka was born from and with a love of feudalism, and that has slowly eroded our high-falutin' ideals.didn't know we had dark enlightenment guys on the Bire :dayum
capitalism, communism, libertarianism, fascism: all are too academic for the brood-creatures and mud-dwellers of the masses to internalize. nothing with any ideological complexity can form a legitimate tendency, despite all the clever rationales of the twitterati. so many words to paper over a nasty truth: people are, in aggregate, fucking tribal and stupid -- and the masses, even slightly freed from the cognitive terror of education, push for lords and zaddies to set and enforce comfortable norms.
also, secret police forces are hardly the exclusive province of fascists. i mean, it's not like our own police forces didn't originate in the shadow patrols of the oligarchic, quasi-feudal south.
:deadI've been pretty out of things, what is it this time?
Federal Agents kidnapping protestors in Portland (and Seattle IIRC). I haven't been paying too much attention to it since the news is BARELY covering it, if ever.
MSNBC has been covering this for days, on every hour and show of the day ::)
That doesn’t disprove TIMU’s assertion that the news isn’t covering the federal kidnappings :thinking
The object of Glenn's ire is not a class, but the entire republican party and anyone who ever voted for them. In his dictatorship PD and ToxicAdam would be purged :fbm
i have a PhD (pleasingly hard dick) in glen
do NOT @ me for this gag
The object of Glenn's ire is not a class, but the entire republican party and anyone who ever voted for them. In his dictatorship PD and ToxicAdam would be purged :fbm
The object of Glenn's ire is not a class, but the entire republican party and anyone who ever voted for them. In his dictatorship PD and ToxicAdam would be purged :fbm
i voted for ross perot as a college freshman, am i fucked