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Title: TAXI DRIVER just came on
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2007, 10:53:38 PM
Just got back from Taco Bell too :hyper

It'll be edited I know, but I'm gonna watch it
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 10:54:11 PM
Lemme guess, on Bravo?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 10:54:35 PM
Most overrated film ever.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 10:54:55 PM
Most overrated film ever.

 ::)
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 10:55:38 PM
It's true.  Good film put on a God-like pedestal that must be kicked out from under it.
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Post by: bagofeyes on February 10, 2007, 10:56:10 PM
Great film
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 10:56:48 PM
Great film

NO ITS NOT CUZ I SAID SO!!!11 :gun
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 10:58:16 PM
Has nothing to do with you.  It's not my fault that you gravitate towards the massively overrated films, particular of the Scorcese variety.  You're young, so I excuse it.

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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 10:59:02 PM
Has nothing to do with you.  It's not my fault that you gravitate towards the massively overrated films, particular of the Scorcese variety.  You're young, so I excuse it.



How is this film massively overrated? What's so bad about it, and what films would you place it lower than?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:02:35 PM
Taxi Driver is usually put into Top 10 lists, where it doesn't belong.  There's nothing really bad about it, and like most of Scorcese's overrated films, it's just a good or darn good film that becomes some kind of OMG BUST UR NUTZ-type film.  As for what films I'd place lower, I have no fucking clue.  It's not even in my Top 20.  Probably not the Top 50.  It's a good, three star film.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:04:16 PM
Question: Would you place Spider-Man 2 over it?
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Post by: bagofeyes on February 10, 2007, 11:04:23 PM
Your taste in movies is pretty terrible, Willco
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:05:10 PM
Question: Would you place Spider-Man 2 over it?

No.  That'd be pretty distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:05:51 PM
Spider-Man 2 is better than The Departed, for sure.  Probably Ghost Rider too.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:05:57 PM
Your taste in movies is pretty terrible, Willco

Yup.
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on February 10, 2007, 11:06:02 PM
Raging Bull was pretty overrated.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:06:51 PM
Raging Bull was pretty overrated.

Yeah, that too.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 10, 2007, 11:07:22 PM
I don't know, I might take a snaggletooth Mary-Jane over a 12 year old Jodie Foster.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:07:49 PM
 :lol

What about the fat chick from Ghost Rider?  PROBABLY NOT.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:08:21 PM
I don't know, I might take a snaggletooth Mary-Jane over a 12 year old Jodie Foster.

What about today's Jodie Foster? :drool
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 10, 2007, 11:08:33 PM
That 12 year old Jodie Foster is sounding a bit better now.

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What about today's Jodie Foster? drool

Maybe Silence of the Lambs Foster.  Definitely NOT post Panic Room foster.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:09:28 PM
HIS HEAD WAS A SKULL AND IT WAS ON FIRE

People will be quoting that years from now while The Departed sits in bargain bins and we all laugh about how it was the worst Oscar win since A Beautiful Mind.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:10:50 PM
HIS HEAD WAS A SKULL AND IT WAS ON FIRE

People will be quoting that years from now while The Departed sits in bargain bins and we all laugh about how it was the worst Oscar win since A Beautiful Mind.

Nah, more people will be watching the Departed and laughing at Mary Jane's horrible line delivery and snaggletooth in your beloved Spider-Man films. ;)
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 10, 2007, 11:11:02 PM
It was all like..."kkkkhhhhhh."

That shit makes me hot.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2007, 11:11:51 PM
It's on AMC. Just went on commercial. It's pretty good so far; nice pace, and De Niro is awesome. I love how you get a sense of the city as he drives around
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:12:10 PM
It was all like..."kkkkhhhhhh."

That shit makes me hot.

 :lol :lol :lol

You heard it here first - The Departed can't touch the writing of GHOST RIDER.

It's on AMC. Just went on commercial. It's pretty good so far; nice pace, and De Niro is awesome. I love how you get a sense of the city as he drives around

Yeah, it's easily one of DeNiro's better performances.  Although, I'll always love him in The Godfather: Part II.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:13:50 PM
What's with the Departed hate, Willco? At least watch the damn thing (and not some shitty crime drama with a 90's era Richard Gere) before hating on it.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 10, 2007, 11:14:29 PM
Dude, I saw Infernal Affairs.  I don't need to see no Scorcese knock off.
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Post by: Himu on February 10, 2007, 11:22:40 PM
Sucks. I missed it.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2007, 11:30:12 PM
Commercial break. This is great.

De Niro is great in this movie. He's nailing the odd, social outcast role without being over dramatic, cliche, or contrived. You can see that Travis is extremely...sociall inept. But despite that he goes on a date with a hot chick lolz. Hearing him try to get her to like him made me smile. Not in a "haha that's funny way", but more in a way that it felt real. Like somthing I would say, or any other real person
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:36:53 PM
Commercial break. This is great.

De Niro is great in this movie. He's nailing the odd, social outcast role without being over dramatic, cliche, or contrived.

You mean, like Tobey MacGuire?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 10, 2007, 11:47:40 PM
Commercial break. This is great.

De Niro is great in this movie. He's nailing the odd, social outcast role without being over dramatic, cliche, or contrived.

You mean, like Tobey MacGuire?
:(

Anyway, another commercial break.

When De Niro said he wanted to take her to a movie earlier in the movie I had a feeling he'd take her to a XXX one, but seeing him actually do it - and being oblivious - was priceless. He didn't understand why taking her there would be socially unacceptable to most people. Instead his reasoning was that since he saw other couples in there, it must be ok. Socially he watches what others do and attempts to mimic it in order to fit in, but it doesn't work.

This movie is awesome :lol
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:48:25 PM
That's one of my favorite parts. :lol
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 10, 2007, 11:57:34 PM
Did he meet Harvey Keitel's character yet?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 12:01:57 AM
Did he meet Harvey Keitel's character yet?
No.

He's extremely paranoid and is disgusted with the city. The movie portrays him as a realistic maniac with an serial killer mind instead of some boogie man picking up people at night. It reminds of Seven where one of Spacey's diary's reveals that he saw a man so revolting to him that he threw up on him; it's that kind of insanity
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Post by: TVC15 on February 11, 2007, 12:23:21 AM
Dude, it's not worth watching unedited.  I can't fathom why they'd even make an edited version.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 12:28:30 AM
Dude, it's not worth watching unedited.  I can't fathom why they'd even make an edited version.

You're probably right, but what I'm seeing is pretty awesome. I'm going to rent this movie as soon as possible, along with Goodfellas, to see them unedited.

Travis just blew this black guy away lol. Also he wrote a letter to his parents lying about himself; reminds me of G :lol
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:29:57 AM
:rofl

I love how the card covers like four different occasions at once.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 12:41:53 AM
Am I a pedo for getting a slight hard on when Jodie Foster gets ready to blow Travis? :lol
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:42:36 AM
Am I a pedo for getting a slight hard on when Jodie Foster gets ready to blow Travis? :lol

Uh, yes.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 12:43:55 AM
She's hella ugly though; very skinny with terrible eye makeup.

But damn she's a good actor, especially for a child
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:24:23 AM
Wow. The movie was nigh perfect but I HATED the ending. WTF?

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He kills 3-4 people, goes into a coma, and then comes out - and isn't locked up? Instead he's out on the street, doing his job as if nothing happened? That doesn't make any sense. At first I thought it was some kind of dream sequence, and he was still in the coma.

But at least he didn't get the girl at the end lol. That would have been really stupid.
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9/10 from what I saw, but I NEED to see this unedited. If the movie ended after Travis held his fingers to his head and uttered "bang...bang...bang..." and then closing his eyes, it would be much higher imo
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:26:46 AM
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Nothing's in stone, but the post-shootout scenes are largely perceived as Travis' own dreams, not what actually occured after the shoot-out.

I.E. After the shoot-out Travis either dies or goes to prison, and what we see are false, contrived scenes that he imagines would happen in his own perfect world.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 11, 2007, 01:33:44 AM
I've gotta watch this movie again. Didn't really impress me the first time around outside of De Niro's performance. I personally enjoyed Raging Bull much more.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:35:03 AM
I've gotta watch this movie again. Didn't really impress me the first time around outside of De Niro's performance. I personally enjoyed Raging Bull much more.

Wow, I'm pretty much the opposite. Raging Bull has never quite seemed like a classic to me.


One more thing: PD, did you catch Marty's little cameo in the film? :D
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:36:09 AM
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Nothing's in stone, but the post-shootout scenes are largely perceived as Travis' own dreams, not what actually occured after the shoot-out.
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That's the feeling I got. Although from a casual perspective it didn't seem that way. The movie featured many clear parts in which Travis created and propogated a fantasy world with respect to the way he perceived himself, such as the card to his parents or the story he told Iris at breakfast about working for the government.
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But yea, this was a good movie. De Niro was hauntingly amazing. While he's most known for playing badasses (Godfather, Goodfellas, etc), here he plays an extremely vurnerable, socially inept maniac.

I always say the most important thing to me in films is good acting. All the central preformances in this movie ranged from good to great. On the great scale is obviously De Niro, but also Jodie Foster. And complimenting the acting was the equally great writing, which was rooted in reality. It felt like real people were being presented, not some bastard writer's perspective on people. This was especially evident in De Niro's narrative. It wasn't perfect or contrived or anything; in fact it was a rambling mess at times, but it worked because it described the cluttered character.
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One more thing: PD, did you catch Marty's little cameo in the film?

I don't even know what he looks like :lol
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Post by: TVC15 on February 11, 2007, 01:58:26 AM
I think Martin's cameo would be one of the particularly edited parts.  He has a potty mouth.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:59:04 AM
I don't know what he looks like lolz
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 11, 2007, 02:00:58 AM
I don't know what he looks like lolz

IIRC, he's in the backseat of the cab talking about his wife fucking a black guy up in the apartment and he's talking about how he's going to kill them or some such.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 02:03:11 AM
I don't know what he looks like lolz

IIRC, he's in the backseat of the cab talking about his wife fucking a black guy up in the apartment and he's talking about how he's going to kill them or some such.

I loved that part :lol

Although it would have been better if they looked up at the window and saw the shadow of this long dick hanging from a dude's groin area. That would be fucking hilarious :lol
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 02:06:12 AM
"You know who lives there? A ni99er lives there. And I'm gonna kill 'im. Then I'm gonna kill her. What do you think about that, huh?"
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 02:08:17 AM
What's with these directors like Marty and QT saying ni99er in their movies :lol
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Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 08:52:24 AM
Oh, Willco. You have lost so many points in this thread. Scorsese, overrated? Hell no. Keep in mind its us internet film freaks that worship the man. AKA 0.009% of the population. In the larger, real world sense, Scorsese is criminally underrated and underappreciated. He's only the greatest American filmmaker of the past 30 years, yet people routinely flock to suck the teet of his peers like Spielberg, Eastwood, and, as sickening as it is, Lucas.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:39:51 PM
I didn't saw Scorcese is overrated, but most certainly some of his films are, Solo!  And do think that Spielberg has better range, a better track record and is by far and away a better technical director than Scorcese.  That's about it.
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Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:43:29 PM
I didn't saw Scorcese is overrated, but most certainly some of his films are, Solo!  And do think that Spielberg has better range, a better track record and is by far and away a better technical director than Scorcese.  That's about it.

I will agree that Spielberg is better on the technical side (although they are both masters in this area). I would put them about even in terms of range. And I would say Scorsese has the better track record. They are close, but personal preference puts me in the Scorsese camp.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:48:38 PM
I think Spielberg is just a better storyteller.  Even to projects he's just attached to in terms of production and story, like The Poltergeist, rock.  He's got more films that people love than anyone, that's for sure.  Spielberg has covered way more genres than Scorcese.

My problem with Scorcese is that he's got a couple of horribly overrated films and several underrated gems.  I can't call the man overrated when he doesn't have an Oscar, though.  My favorite Scorcese film usually gets the shaft anyway.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:50:59 PM
What's your favorite Scorsese film, Wilco?
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
THE AVIATOR.

I loved it.  Should be the Holy Bible for anyone wanting to do a biopic.
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Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:52:24 PM
I think Spielberg is just a better storyteller.  Even to projects he's just attached to in terms of production and story, like The Poltergeist, rock.  He's got more films that people love than anyone, that's for sure.  Spielberg has covered way more genres than Scorcese.

My problem with Scorcese is that he's got a couple of horribly overrated films and several underrated gems.  I can't call the man overrated when he doesn't have an Oscar, though.  My favorite Scorcese film usually gets the shaft anyway.

Well, rumors persist that Spielberg didnt indeed DIRECT Poltergeist, although I guess he'll never admit to that. I dunno about the genres thing, people tend to think Scorsese = crime films, and thats true to an extent, but the man also made Kundun, Bringing Out The Dead, After Hours, The King of Comedy, Age of Innocence, The Aviator, etc.

Anyways, I do also agree that some of Scorsese films are overrated, and also that he has several underappreciated films. So we agree more than it appears.

Also, give The Departed a chance.

EDIT: The Aviator was great. Rock on.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:53:05 PM
THE AVIATOR.

I loved it.  Should be the Holy Bible for anyone wanting to do a biopic.

The Departed was better. And so were Goodfellas, Casino, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, After Hours, etc.
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Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:53:40 PM
I would never put Casino above anything.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:54:52 PM
I know, you have a strong, unwarranted dislike for the film.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:55:55 PM
Casino and Goodfellas were better than The Aviator? :lol

Kids.

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people tend to think Scorsese = crime films, and thats true to an extent, but the man also made Kundun, Bringing Out The Dead, After Hours, The King of Comedy, Age of Innocence, The Aviator, etc.

Except, most of those films you noted are mediocre to just okay.  Spielberg has hit several different genres out of the ballpark.  Actually, the one film that gets no love or mention whatsoever, but I really did enjoy, was Marty's take on Cape Fear.  If there was ever an attempt to be commercial, that was it.  And it was thoroughly entertaining.
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Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:56:49 PM
Willco, The Departed = Cape Fear of the 00's. It's Marty doing a commerical flick + a remake, and excelling at both.
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Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 12:57:22 PM
Spielberg has pretty damn big range. I mean in the same year he put out Jurassic Park and Schindler's List. And in 2005 Munich and War of the Worlds.

He appeals to two almost totally different movie going audiences and succeeds at both at the exact same time (not calling JP nor WOTW great but they worked and succeeded massively with the blockbuster summer going families)

Hell, if he was able to get ahold of comedies(1941 and The Terminal didn't quite make it you could say) he might have transcended range no other director has been able to do.


Oh and Marty's best film aint a crime drama. FUCKING LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST!
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 12:58:39 PM
Casino and Goodfellas were better than The Aviator? :lol

Kids.


There are plenty of people who feel the same way, both young and old.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 12:59:06 PM
Willco, The Departed = Cape Fear of the 00's. It's Marty doing a commerical flick + a remake, and excelling at both.

Cape Fear was at least better than the original!

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There are plenty of people who feel the same way, both young and old.

You like Casino :lol
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 12:59:53 PM
Spielberg is far more varied come on. He started off as more of a thrill director, making summer movies as well as the types of movies people would go to in order to be entertained. But then he's equally as impressive with far more serious content such as Schindler's List, The Color Purple, and the criminally underrated Amistad. Then he's also very impressive with pure sci-fi projects such as Minority Report, AI, etc.
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Post by: Solo on February 11, 2007, 12:59:59 PM
Willco, The Departed = Cape Fear of the 00's. It's Marty doing a commerical flick + a remake, and excelling at both.

Cape Fear was at least better than the original!

Man, The Departed shits all over IA. Dont let anyone tell you any different.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:00:11 PM
You haven't even seen The Departed, so please keep the hate down to a minimum.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:00:36 PM
You haven't even seen The Departed, so please keep the hate down to a minimum.

CASINO IS BETTER THAN SCHINDLER'S LIST
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Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 01:01:15 PM
Spielberg is far more varied come on. He started off as more of a thrill director, making summer movies as well as the types of movies people would go to in order to be entertained. But then he's equally as impressive with far more serious content such as Schindler's List, The Color Purple, and the criminally underrated Amistad. Then he's also very impressive with pure sci-fi projects such as Minority Report, AI, etc.
It amazes how Spielberg can in a sense have two totally different and un-connected fanbases and yet succeed with them both over the years. His drama film buff crowd and the ones in it for Jurassic Park & Indiana Jones and the last crusade.

There of course is the films that kind of fit in the middle that appeal to both. Like Jaws, Minority Report, and Raiders.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:05:25 PM
Is Raging Bull as good as everyone says it is? I saw some great clips on YouTube but I also saw one that bothered me, IE the boxing scene. I don't know much about Scorsese but I know he's a big sports fan as well as a huge blues guy. But the boxing scene I saw was a complete joke, as if whoever made it never saw a match in his life. It's almost cartoon level in the unrealistic, stylized department. What the hell? :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2H6tfAyj8o

I suppose it could just be how Lamotta is percepting the fight in his mind...
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:06:39 PM
Raging Bull is good, but not TEH BEST SPORTS FILM EVAR like some people proclaim.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:07:52 PM
Raging Bull is good, but not TEH BEST SPORTS FILM EVAR like some people proclaim.

That would be Brian's Song :(
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:08:33 PM
Uhh, that looks pretty authentic to me, if stylized. ???
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Post by: Cheebs on February 11, 2007, 01:09:02 PM
raging bull is a rip-off of rocky

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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:11:49 PM
Uhh, that looks pretty authentic to me, if stylized. ???

It was terrible in terms of looking fake. The movie seems to be this realistic take on boxing up the actual matches look like a WWE match where one wrestler hits a guy 10 times, then the other guy hits him 10 times, etc.

It still looks great though
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:11:52 PM
That would be Brian's Song :(

Not really.  Raging Bull is still pretty popular.  Brian's Song has kind of died out.  Most of your mom's generation probably don't know what it is and most of our generation definitely don't.  Raging Bull is up there with Hoosiers in terms of exposure, though.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:13:04 PM
Uhh, that looks pretty authentic to me, if stylized. ???

It was terrible in terms of looking fake. The movie seems to be this realistic take on boxing up the actual matches look like a WWE match where one wrestler hits a guy 10 times, then the other guy hits him 10 times, etc.

It still looks great though

Well, it seems you want it to be 100% accurate. Marty is all about the style, baby, wise up. :-*
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:14:27 PM
That would be Brian's Song :(

Not really.  Raging Bull is still pretty popular.  Brian's Song has kind of died out.  Most of your mom's generation probably don't know what it is and most of our generation definitely don't.  Raging Bull is up there with Hoosiers in terms of exposure, though.

Exposure=better? Nein!

I loved Brian's Song lol, but I haven't seen it in years. I've seen Hoosiers a billion times, thanks to various coaches threatening me with it or suicides.

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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:16:41 PM
No, you missed my point and I misunderstood you.  I thought you were saying that Brian's Song was the overrated film everyone claims is TEH BEST SPORTS MOVIE EVAR.  And I was pointing out that it is simply too obscure for you average street walker to really have that title.  Raging Bull is almost too obscure as well, but gets enough cable play to perpetuate that.

The real answer in terms of the most overrated sports movie proclaimed as the greates ever is easily Rocky, even though I do like it.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:26:02 PM
No, you missed my point and I misunderstood you.  I thought you were saying that Brian's Song was the overrated film everyone claims is TEH BEST SPORTS MOVIE EVAR.  And I was pointing out that it is simply too obscure for you average street walker to really have that title.  Raging Bull is almost too obscure as well, but gets enough cable play to perpetuate that.

The real answer in terms of the most overrated sports movie proclaimed as the greates ever is easily Rocky, even though I do like it.

Ah, good man.

I have never looked at Rocky as a "sports" movie, although I guess I should. Perhaps my opinion on Rocky is too clouded by the more superficial sequels. The first one is good though.

When We Were Kings is perhaps my favorite, if we are to include sports docs. White Men Can't Jump is great too. And in terms of emotionally...manipulating...sports movies go I'm a complete sucker Remember the Titans
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:29:32 PM
I hate that REMEMBER THE TITANS formula Disney now applies to any sports movie.

Find a true sports story, about being an UNDERDOG.  Introduce a coach that HAS A TROUBLED PAST OR INNER TURMOIL.  Create CONFLICT ON THE TEAM.  Have the team rise to the occasion BY LEARNING A LESSON THAT THE COACH APPLIES TO HIMSELF.  Win THE BIG GAME AGAINST ALL ODDS.  BASED ON A TRUE STORY.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:31:24 PM
You forgot to add racial tension.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:32:08 PM
Some of them don't have it, though.  Usually if it's not RACIAL TENSION its TENSION RELATED TO CLASS STATUS (immigrant, poor, etc.).
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:32:27 PM
I hate that REMEMBER THE TITANS formula Disney now applies to any sports movie.

Find a true sports story, about being an UNDERDOG.  Introduce a coach that HAS A TROUBLED PAST OR INNER TURMOIL.  Create CONFLICT ON THE TEAM.  Have the team rise to the occasion BY LEARNING A LESSON THAT THE COACH APPLIES TO HIMSELF.  Win THE BIG GAME AGAINST ALL ODDS.  BASED ON A TRUE STORY.

Yeah. But to me Titans does this much better, in part because the actual "conflict" (racism) doesn't seem forced. It's not a bunch of TROUBLED TEENS IN A CORECTIONAL FACILITY giving COACH a hard time. :lol
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:33:22 PM
Dude, I'm talking about ALL those Disney sports movies.  Miracle, The Greatest Game Ever Played, The Rookie, Invincible, etc.

They pump one out every year now and they're ALL based on TRUE STORIES.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 01:35:07 PM
Oh I know lol. But wouldn't you say Titans is better than the rest? :-*

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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 11, 2007, 01:36:28 PM
Oh I know lol. But wouldn't you say Titans is better than the rest? :-*



It set the blueprint for cheesy sports films. It is better than the rest, but its perhaps the most offending.
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Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 11, 2007, 01:37:25 PM
Don't forget the lesser ones like GLORY ROAD and COACH CARTER and GRIDIRON GANG and WE ARE MARSHALL and crap like that.
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Post by: Mupepe on February 11, 2007, 01:38:11 PM
Don't forget the lesser ones like GLORY ROAD and COACH CARTER and GRIDIRON GANG and WE ARE MARSHALL and crap like that.
We Are Marshall is the worst cheesy sports film to ever come out.
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Post by: Solo on February 12, 2007, 08:27:43 AM
Dudes, I will say for the millionth time, Raging Bull is NOT a boxing/sports movie. Jake LaMotta could have been in any other profession and it wouldn't change the film fundamentally. It's a drama about a self-destructive loser first, a biopic second, and a sports film a distant third.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 12, 2007, 08:32:50 AM
Dudes, I will say for the millionth time, Raging Bull is NOT a boxing/sports movie. Jake LaMotta could have been in any other profession and it wouldn't change the film fundamentally. It's a drama about a self-destructive loser first, a biopic second, and a sports film a distant third.

True. The boxing aspects could be left on the cutting room floor and it'd still be an amazing film.
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Post by: Solo on February 12, 2007, 08:37:01 AM
Exactly. Same with Rocky. Now Rocky II-IV? THOSE are cookie cutter sports movies. People tend to forget that Rocky won Best Picture because it was a tiny, intimate, engaging drama about a lifelong loser given one chance to prove his worth. Its also more of a love story than a sports film.
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Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 12, 2007, 08:40:45 AM
:bow Solo :bow