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Title: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 04:56:02 PM
I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: cloudwalking on February 12, 2007, 04:56:56 PM
tell me about your problems mupepe
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Bacon on February 12, 2007, 04:57:27 PM
I'd like to try it sometime. I wonder how fucked up I really am.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 04:58:13 PM
tell me about your problems mupepe
If you're on AIM, I'll get on and tell you about them  :-*

Bacon: It wasn't insightful at all.  She basically told me shit I already knew and then insulted me.  Bitch.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 12, 2007, 04:59:04 PM
I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Yea, pretty much. You probably have to go for years before getting any help or answers out of it.

Kinda like Lost.

Edit: And Mupepe is on his way to his goal of talking to every chick on this forum on AIM.  :lol
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: cloudwalking on February 12, 2007, 05:01:14 PM
tell me about your problems mupepe
If you're on AIM, I'll get on and tell you about them  :-*

that'll be $200
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Black Stallion on February 12, 2007, 05:01:29 PM
I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Friends are a lot cheaper and if you don't like em you can always do like me and pretend to take em on a trip, then ditch them half way (like 60 miles from their home and in the middle of nowhere) and speed off.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Tauntaun on February 12, 2007, 05:02:45 PM
I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 
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Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Cheebs on February 12, 2007, 05:07:13 PM
I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 
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Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Yea, pretty much. You probably have to go for years before getting any help or answers out of it.

Kinda like Lost.

oh shi'!  Sick burn!

tell me about your problems mupepe
If you're on AIM, I'll get on and tell you about them  :-*

that'll be $200
:o

Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Tauntaun on February 12, 2007, 05:11:52 PM
I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 
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We like to roll play.   ;)
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 05:12:36 PM
I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 
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We like to roll play.   ;)
I want to be the black one!
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 12, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
There are good therapists.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Tauntaun on February 12, 2007, 05:13:42 PM
I'm here for ya buddy. :hug: 
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We like to roll play.   ;)
I want to be the black one!

K, that means you get to put the big cucumber down your pants.  :-*
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 05:14:50 PM
There are good therapists.
Possibly.  But how can you differentiate?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 12, 2007, 05:15:49 PM
There are good therapists.
Possibly.  But how can you differentiate?

Well, knowing what to look for helps, but I realize not everyone can tell what they need.  Were you seeing a psychiatrist or a psychologist?

I had a string of bad psychologists, but I retained the same psychiatrist for a number of years.  After going through a few psychologists, and getting to know me and my specific issues and quirks, he was able to point me to someone that fit my needs.  Some people just need a person they can vent to for an hour a week, other people need something more.  The mental health field has grown exponentially over the past 2 decades, and I believe a lot of the people pouring into the field are more along the lines of "Vent to me" than "Let me help you."
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 05:16:36 PM
There are good therapists.
Possibly.  But how can you differentiate?

Well, knowing what to look for helps, but I realize not everyone can tell what they need.  Were you seeing a psychiatrist or a psychologist?
Psychiatrist
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: VALIS on February 12, 2007, 08:59:52 PM
Depends on the problem, too. Something like anxiety/panic attacks, you could see concrete results from a therapist in a month or two. But something more nebulous like depression... that's tough.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: APF on February 12, 2007, 09:16:29 PM
I keep waffling between wanting to see a therapist and thinking it would be a waste of time.  While I think there could be some benefit to having recurrent vent sessions, I always found that to be somewhat one-sided and self-indulgent.  At the same time, if you are honestly trying to work out a specific problem (f/e I have issues with fear-of-rejection that manifests itself in bizarre work/daily-life related ways) and your therapist is capable of helping you through this in a positive way, then it could be life-changing.  However most people I know who go to Psychiatrists (girlfriends mostly) ultimately seem to do it for drug reasons.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 09:18:38 PM
Well, my mom and brother recommended I go. 

I've become fairly reclusive with my friends for the past few years.  I don't like to go out.  I'm a "compulsive fornicator" as my mom calls it.  They think I'm depressed.  I'm just happy working, taking care of my daughter, playing video games and getting laid. 
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on February 12, 2007, 09:19:18 PM
Well, my mom and brother recommended I go. 

I've become fairly reclusive with my friends for the past few years.  I don't like to go out.  I'm a "compulsive fornicator" as my mom calls it.  They think I'm depressed.  I'm just happy working, taking care of my daughter, playing video games and getting laid. 

Dude, you need to lay off the sex. :o
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 09:25:50 PM
Well, my mom and brother recommended I go. 

I've become fairly reclusive with my friends for the past few years.  I don't like to go out.  I'm a "compulsive fornicator" as my mom calls it.  They think I'm depressed.  I'm just happy working, taking care of my daughter, playing video games and getting laid. 

Dude, you need to lay off the sex. :o
lolz

Nah, they're just overreacting.  My mom assumes I sleep with a lot more people than I actually do.  And she doesn't know I go out as much as I do.  I mean, I don't go out a lot.  But I'm not a shut-in either. 
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 12, 2007, 09:37:13 PM
I couldn't stand it when I went to a psychologist when I was around 14. It seriously bothered me that the person listening to my problems didn't have any emotional attachment to me (therefor probably didn't care about my issue). I guess thats not the point at the end of the day (since his job is to analyze and offer suggestions on how to resolve the issue).

But I also had family that listened and helped me at the time. If anything psychologist are really helpful for the people that don't have that type of outlet.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 12, 2007, 09:38:26 PM
and I believe a lot of the people pouring into the field are more along the lines of "Vent to me" than "Let me help you."

That's what I do with my clients, which works quite well, as they're middle school students.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 09:42:47 PM
Well, I don't know.  I don't think I really have a problem to begin with.  She told me things I already knew...

I sleep with women to fill a void.  I like women in relationships because I was hurt when my ex wife cheated on me.  I avoid serious relationships because I don't want to get hurt.

That's shit I've known for a long time now.  I didn't need her to tell me that.

And her suggestions were shit too.  She told me I should focus on my career or school and put more energy in my daughter since she makes me happy.

That shit pissed me off.  I'm doing good with my career.  In the 24 years my department has been around, I'm the youngest person to ever hold my position.

My daughter takes precedence over anything and anyone in my life.  She just pissed me off when she said that shit.  I spend every possible minute with my daughter and I do everything I can for her. 

ajkl;dfal;jf  She got me more pissed off than anything.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on February 12, 2007, 09:46:19 PM
Well, I don't know.  I don't think I really have a problem to begin with.  She told me things I already knew...

I sleep with women to fill a void.  I like women in relationships because I was hurt when my ex wife cheated on me.  I avoid serious relationships because I don't want to get hurt.

That's shit I've known for a long time now.  I didn't need her to tell me that.

So you're saying that you don't have a problem, yet you mention how you sleep with women to fill a void in your life and you stay away from letting anyone in because you're afraid of getting hurt. These aren't problems?

You might not like her, but it sounds like the therapist was trying to get you identify your problems and start working through them.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 09:49:38 PM
Well, I don't know.  I don't think I really have a problem to begin with.  She told me things I already knew...

I sleep with women to fill a void.  I like women in relationships because I was hurt when my ex wife cheated on me.  I avoid serious relationships because I don't want to get hurt.

That's shit I've known for a long time now.  I didn't need her to tell me that.

So you're saying that you don't have a problem, yet you mention how you sleep with women to fill a void in your life and you stay away from letting anyone in because you're afraid of getting hurt. These aren't problems?

You might not like her, but it sounds like the therapist was trying to get you identify your problems and start working through them.
Well she tells me shit I already know.  But as in it being a serious problem that's impeding the progression of my life, I don't think so.

And I would like to work through the problems, but I really don't see any way her suggestions would help my problems.  My love life and daughter are completely seperate issues.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: CrystalGemini on February 12, 2007, 11:16:01 PM
Psychiatrist vs. Psychologist

Psychiatrists deal solving problems with drugs.  Psychologists deal with solving your problems through means other than drugs.

Honey - Why are you stalking me?  :-* 

I'M IN A CLASS DAMNIT!!!  >_<

Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2007, 11:17:41 PM
What are you talking about.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:19:42 PM
I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Ha, my parents paid a shit ton of money to send me to one a couple times and when I left I had convinced him my parents were crazy :lol

We spend most of the time talking about LOTR and Jimi Hendrix lolz. He told my parents that I was simply acting like a normal teen going through rebellious phases, no big deal. Of course my parents expected that phase to be non-existant as a sign of their BRILLIANT CHRISTIAN CHILD REARING SKILLZ LULZ

 ::)
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2007, 11:20:21 PM
So when does that phase end?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 12, 2007, 11:21:39 PM
I had a 30 minute session with a therapist earlier today for shits and giggles.  Holy shit.  What a fucking joke.

Ha, my parents paid a shit ton of money to send me to one a couple times and when I left I had convinced him my parents were crazy :lol

We spend most of the time talking about LOTR and Jimi Hendrix lolz. He told my parents that I was simply acting like a normal teen going through rebellious phases, no big deal. Of course my parents expected that phase to be non-existant as a sign of their BRILLIANT CHRISTIAN CHILD REARING SKILLZ LULZ

 ::)
:lol

I remember seeing one when I was really little.  It was court ordered in my parents divorce for some reason.  I spent the whole time playing with toy dinosaurs and talking about my obsession with Michael Jackson  :shh
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:23:14 PM
Psychiatrist vs. Psychologist

Psychiatrists deal solving problems with drugs.  Psychologists deal with solving your problems through means other than drugs.

Honey - Why are you stalking me?  :-* 

I'M IN A CLASS DAMNIT!!!  >_<



No, you're wrong. Pychiatrists are actually doctors, can prescribe drugs, and get paid a shit ton of money.

Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: CrystalGemini on February 12, 2007, 11:26:09 PM
Close enough.

Psychiatrist = drugs.

Psychologist =  no drugs.

That's all you really need to know.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2007, 11:26:40 PM
I went a bunch after my mother went through her second divorce.  I never had a stable childhood to begin with, and she was an emotional wreck trying to swim out of debt, so apparently everyone thought it wise to send me to a shrink.  It really didn't help me with much of anything.

My issues with my folks were honestly their issues.  My mother since re-marrying, has been pretty easy to deal with for her.  My father, who went from a bitter man (we exchanged blows, and he shut my eye pretty good) with anger management issues to a good person, is now back down on his luck and I find myself pretty much hating him.

What I learn is that your parents are fucked up, and therapy for the most part, is an easy way for parents to ease their conscience that their children are going through problems out of their control.  When usually it's just the byproduct of them being fucked up.

And my girlfriend is right, PD.  You stfu.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 12, 2007, 11:26:58 PM
i got sent to the school therapist countless times in hs. we swapped pirated amiga games :hyper
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2007, 11:27:54 PM
We had a counselor, not a therapist.  He was trying to find out why I was so disruptive in class and that my class clown antics were just a defense mechanism.

Then I learned I was just a jerk!
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 12, 2007, 11:28:38 PM
i was just told "you're smart, you're bored, and you're not really malicious. so, were you able to copy Menace or Speedball 2?"
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:29:09 PM
So when does that phase end?

I was like 16 at the time

Quote from: CrystalGemini
Close enough.

Psychiatrist = drugs.

Psychologist =  no drugs.

That's all you really need to know.

NO. What you need to know is

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2007, 11:30:36 PM
Yeah, I got the same thing.  They tested me, and - behold! - I was gifted and talented.  They shipped me off to the magnet program where they were sure I was going to be challenged and excited by new opportunities, and my grade school shenanigans would end.

Wrong.

During that time, I was suspended from school, stabbed a kid in the leg with a pencil, had to sign papers claiming I was involved in sexual harassment and made one of the faculty members cry.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on February 12, 2007, 11:30:55 PM
So who HASN'T gone to a therapist or psychiatrist or whatever?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2007, 11:31:29 PM
Probably really fucked up people, because they're afraid they'll let it slip that they're really serial killers.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:33:47 PM
You mean FoC?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: CrystalGemini on February 12, 2007, 11:34:24 PM
NO. What you need to know is

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

Which shows us EXACTLY how much you know about "art" majors.   ::)

So who HASN'T gone to a therapist or psychiatrist or whatever?

I've never needed help from a therapist of any kind.  They, however, need my help.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: The Fake Shemp on February 12, 2007, 11:34:44 PM
Nah, he's too self depreciating to be really fucked up.  You'd need to find a poster that was weird, but intelligent and gave enough details about his personal life to sort of fit in... but kept a lot to himself.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 12, 2007, 11:35:51 PM
NO. What you need to know is

Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

Which shows us EXACTLY how much you know about "art" majors.   ::)

So who HASN'T gone to a therapist or psychiatrist or whatever?

I've never needed help from a therapist of any kind.  They, however, need my help.

Better watch out Willco.
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Post by: brawndolicious on February 12, 2007, 11:36:53 PM
phoenix dark

why do you speak?

do you honestly think anything useful comes out?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:41:32 PM
phoenix dark

why do you speak?

do you honestly think anything useful comes out?

I'm just bringing up the more important facts. I know enough psychiatrists - and seen their big ass houses - to know what's up lol. You can look up the average salaries based on jobs if you want too.

Meh. I wanted to be a psychiatrist for a long time lol
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on February 12, 2007, 11:42:08 PM
I had an awesome childhood. LulZ!!!
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Post by: Flannel Boy on February 12, 2007, 11:42:16 PM
The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:42:58 PM
The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.
:lol :lol :lol

BULLSHIT :lol

Please tell me you're lying. The Watchtower...in a Catholic school? Does not compute
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 12, 2007, 11:43:30 PM
I had an awesome childhood. LulZ!!!
Your favorite childhood memory was of the time you ate that lead paint.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 12, 2007, 11:43:45 PM
The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.
:lol :lol :lol

BULLSHIT :lol

Please tell me you're lying. The Watchtower...in a Catholic school? Does not compute
Lead paint too?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 12, 2007, 11:45:54 PM
phoenix dark, go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:46:10 PM
The schools I went to didn't have psychologists or therapists. The public Catholic schools in Ontario were pretty under funded. They couldn't afford bibles so we studied free copies of the Watchtower.
:lol :lol :lol

BULLSHIT :lol

Please tell me you're lying. The Watchtower...in a Catholic school? Does not compute
Lead paint too?

I just find it odd that a Catholic church would use a Jehova Witness brochure at all. They don't even believe Jesus was the Christ...and they don't use a "regular" Bible

 ???
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Post by: Flannel Boy on February 12, 2007, 11:47:23 PM
 ???


 :lol
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 12, 2007, 11:49:27 PM
???


 :lol

What? Were you joking?

 ???

 :lol
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 12:13:49 AM
Jesus fuck PD is an idiot.  He really believes that psychologists are people that couldn't afford to go to med school?  What kind of idiot believes that?  They're 2 different fields, and I guarantee a lot of psychologists would not want to be psychiatrists.  And besides, they both work in hospitals, so its not like a working psychologist is making a hell of a lot less than a psychiatrist.

And for the record, psychologists working within the confines of a hospital pretty much can prescribe drugs.  As long as they have a good working relationship with a psychiatrist, they'll be trusted to know what the score is. . .as long as the score isn't something that requires heavy treatment, like schizophrenia and the like.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 12:15:56 AM
Jesus fuck PD is an idiot.  He really believes that psychologists are people that couldn't afford to go to med school?  What kind of idiot believes that?  They're 2 different fields, and I guarantee a lot of psychologists would not want to be psychiatrists.  And besides, they both work in hospitals, so its not like a working psychologist is making a hell of a lot less than a psychiatrist.

And for the record, psychologists working within the confines of a hospital pretty much can prescribe drugs.  As long as they have a good working relationship with a psychiatrist, they'll be trusted to know what the score is. . .as long as the score isn't something that requires heavy treatment, like schizophrenia and the like.

Where did I say they couldn't afford to go? And no, they don't get paid the same, at all

I've never heard of any psychologists that can do that. In order to prescribe drugs you have to be a doctor. Now if the doctor is giving them the right away to prescribe things to his/her patients, that's a different story
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: G The Resurrected on February 13, 2007, 12:17:09 AM
i have been going to therapy for 3 Years its helped me yery little but i've learned a lot about myself in other ways but it still doesnt help i wish it did
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 12:22:48 AM
Sorry, PD< you have only made disparaging remarks about psychologists, leading me to believe that yes, you are indeed a total tool:

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Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference

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Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

(like, what does this even mean?)

And in the situations I was prescribing, the psychologist would typically write the prescription and the psychiatrist (or in some cases) MD, would sign it.

So what's your reason for putting down psychologists, you fuck?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 12:24:14 AM
pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else.  only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

now shut the fuck up.

you are truly a worthless person.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 12:25:27 AM
Sorry, PD< you have only made disparaging remarks about psychologists, leading me to believe that yes, you are indeed a total tool:

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Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference

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Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

(like, what does this even mean?)

And in the situations I was prescribing, the psychologist would typically write the prescription and the psychiatrist (or in some cases) MD, would sign it.


So what's your reason for putting down psychologists, you fuck?

In other words, they aren't prescribing the drugs - the MD is. Hence my point about only doctors being able to prescribe them. Dur

I'm not putting them down, just pointing out the differences. On average psychiatrists make more than twice as much as psychologists. Are they lazy fucks? Probably not, but I can have some fucking space for hyperbolic comments on the internet, can't I Mr. "America is the worst place on earth" TVC?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 12:30:45 AM
pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else.  only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

now shut the fuck up.

you are truly a worthless person.

Bullshit.
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In the United States, the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act defines what requires a prescription. Prescription drugs are generally authorized by doctors, though physician assistants and nurse practitioners do an increasing amount of drug prescribing. It is generally required that an MD,DO,PA or NP write the prescription; nurses (other than nurse practitioners), emergency medical technicians, psychologists (but not psychiatrists, who are MDs), as examples, do not generally have the authority to prescribe drugs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescription_drug

I think New Mexico is the only state in the US that allows psychologists to prescribe drugs.
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Before New Mexico’s act, only the US territory of Guam allowed psychologists to prescribe drugs. Guam lumped psychologists with physician assistants as allied healthcare specialists with prescribing privileges in 1998, but to date no psychologists there have taken advantage of the law.
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7339/698/d
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2007, 12:31:26 AM
New Mexico is a shithole.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 12:32:24 AM
just b@n him.

don't let him shit up anything he wants again.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 12:33:37 AM
just b@n him.

don't let him shit up anything he wants again.
:lol

Brilliant come back. Talk to me when you know what the fuck you're talking about
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 12:38:41 AM
Sorry, PD< you have only made disparaging remarks about psychologists, leading me to believe that yes, you are indeed a total tool:

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Psychologists are not doctors, were too lazy to go to medical school and get paid shit. There's a difference

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Psychiatrist=money

Psychologist=no money

(like, what does this even mean?)

And in the situations I was prescribing, the psychologist would typically write the prescription and the psychiatrist (or in some cases) MD, would sign it.


So what's your reason for putting down psychologists, you fuck?

In other words, they aren't prescribing the drugs - the MD is. Hence my point about only doctors being able to prescribe them. Dur

I'm not putting them down, just pointing out the differences. On average psychiatrists make more than twice as much as psychologists. Are they lazy fucks? Probably not, but I can have some fucking space for hyperbolic comments on the internet, can't I Mr. "America is the worst place on earth?"

Sorry, you said it, and believed it, when you called them too lazy to get a medical degree.  You're a classic example of someone that knows he's got a brain, and uses that as an excuse to be the loudest shouter without considering anyone else's point of view.  You, you wanted to be a PSYCHIATRIST!  And on some distinguished mentally-challenged scale in your head, this made you better than a PSYCHOLOGIST. 
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 12:39:09 AM
Brilliant come back. Talk to me when you know what the fuck you're talking about
did you even read what I wrote you worthless little moronic piece of shit?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 12:41:30 AM
Also, don't say my first name on the forum please.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 12:44:42 AM
Also, don't say my first name on the forum please.

I'm sorry; I'll edit the post

Quote from: am nintenho
did you even read what I wrote you worthless little moronic piece of shit?

Yeah, I did asshole

Quote from: am nintenho
pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else.  only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

They have no authority to tell psychiatrists what to do with patients. All they can do is give suggestions.

And once again for good measure...

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In the United States, the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act defines what requires a prescription. Prescription drugs are generally authorized by doctors, though physician assistants and nurse practitioners do an increasing amount of drug prescribing. It is generally required that an MD,DO,PA or NP write the prescription; nurses (other than nurse practitioners), emergency medical technicians, psychologists (but not psychiatrists, who are MDs), as examples, do not generally have the authority to prescribe drugs.

Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 12:48:13 AM
THEY GET TO SUGGEST IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A MEDICAL DEGREE YOU FUCKWIT.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 12:49:40 AM
THEY GET TO SUGGEST IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A MEDICAL DEGREE YOU FUCKWIT.

Suggesting does not equal prescribing :lol

Prescribing is a medical term in this case. Stop looking at it from an everyday word perspective lol. Their suggestion holds no weight on a psychiatrist
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 12:51:10 AM
you're giving your real-world experience based on house sizes and you're saying I'm out of touch?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 12:54:58 AM
you're giving your real-world experience based on house sizes and you're saying I'm out of touch?
:lol

You're dead wrong - there's a difference. You have yet to point out any facts, and have instead wasted your time calling me names. As if I care. Psychologists cannot prescribe drugs in the United States under the  Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. In New Mexico the law was successfully appealed, although ever since there has been a legal battle to set things back to the way they once were.

Psychiatrists are MDs and make a lot of more money on average than psychologists, who are not doctors.

In conclusion, you have no point, as usual. The stalling has been impressive though
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 12:58:29 AM
DUMBSHIT, am I talking about what a psychologist is capable of or what he's likely to do?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:00:53 AM
DUMBSHIT, am I talking about what a psychologist is capable of or what he's likely to do?

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pd, psychologists can prescribe whatever the fuck they want because they ALWAYS tell you to go a psychiatrist they know and will just tell them what to prescribe you, nothing else. only difference in their methods is psychologist doesn't mind if you stop taking the drugs.

lol

You are hilarious.

Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 01:03:00 AM
yes I mentioned that when saying that they have different methods which is what this thread was about.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:07:51 AM
yes I mentioned that when saying that they have different methods which is what this thread was about.

No, you mentioned that in responce to my claim that psychologists cannot prescribe drugs. That along with the salary issue has been my only statement about psychologists in this thread. First TVC took objection, and then you piggybacked on. At least TVC brought up a relevent point
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 01:18:02 AM
No, you mentioned that in responce to my claim that psychologists cannot prescribe drugs. That along with the salary issue has been my only statement about psychologists in this thread. First TVC took objection, and then you piggybacked on. At least TVC brought up a relevent point
No you REALLY fucked this thread up:

Some people mention the difference between psychologist's and psychiatrist's methods.

You say psychiatrist's use a different method because of schooling.

And no, I don't agree with anybody without knowing their opinion on anti-depressants.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:20:07 AM
No, you mentioned that in responce to my claim that psychologists cannot prescribe drugs. That along with the salary issue has been my only statement about psychologists in this thread. First TVC took objection, and then you piggybacked on. At least TVC brought up a relevent point
No you REALLY fucked this thread up:

Some people mention the difference between psychologist's and psychiatrist's methods.

You say psychiatrist's use a different method because of schooling.

And no, I don't agree with anybody without knowing their opinion on anti-depressants.

Where did I say that?

It's not about a "different method". We are talking about the prescription of drugs. I suppose you could say that schooling plays a role, and it does: if you don't go to medical school, you won't be prescribing drugs in this country.

I should just give up because now you're embarrasing yourself
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 01:26:48 AM
Where did I say that?
It's not about a "different method". We are talking about the prescription of drugs. I suppose you could say that schooling plays a role, and it does: if you don't go to medical school, you won't be prescribing drugs in this country.
I should just give up because now you're embarrasing yourself
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NO. What you need to know is
Psychiatrist=money
Psychologist=no money
But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

you wanted to be a psychatrist without knowing what the hell they do? wow what an idiot.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:30:43 AM
Where did I say that?
It's not about a "different method". We are talking about the prescription of drugs. I suppose you could say that schooling plays a role, and it does: if you don't go to medical school, you won't be prescribing drugs in this country.
I should just give up because now you're embarrasing yourself
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NO. What you need to know is
Psychiatrist=money
Psychologist=no money
But then again you're an art major or something so money doesn't matter to you. Willco will take care of that

you wanted to be a psychatrist without knowing what the hell they do? wow what an idiot.

And? Psychiatrists make far more money than psychologists.

How does that relate to your schooling point? :lol

Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 01:34:15 AM
And? Psychiatrists make far more money than psychologists.
How does that relate to your schooling point? :lol
I've seen you talk like a mouthpiece for anti-depressants and now you barely know what the fuck you're going to be doing other then prescribing them if you were a psychiatrist so don't talk about this.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:41:29 AM
And? Psychiatrists make far more money than psychologists.
How does that relate to your schooling point? :lol
I've seen you talk like a mouthpiece for anti-depressants and now you barely know what the fuck you're going to be doing other then prescribing them if you were a psychiatrist so don't talk about this.

Show me where I mentioned "anti-depressants" ONE TIME. One time, go ahead.

I said at one point I wanted to be a psychiatrist - why are you changing the issue? The issue is Crystal made a comment, I responded; we both agreed on an issue - psychiatrists can prescribe drugs while psychologists cannot. She said that was the only difference, but I disagreed and said the other difference is that psychiatrists are doctors and make far more money. Then, like the dick rider you are, you came into the thread trying to work me up about my comment while paying no attention to the similar ones Crystal made with respect to prescribing drugs.

 :lol I've never seen a more shameless dickrider than you. You aren't Drinky, so why waste your time trying to instigate drama over the internets?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 01:43:46 AM
Could you people shut up and stop arguing!  PD, I *TOLD* you about trying to converse with this. . .alien.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 01:45:29 AM
One can use these kinds of drugs in a "recreactional" manner for a time, but eventually it doesn't satisfy. The use increases due to the mind's reaction to the drug; as your dopamine starts depleting and the highs become weaker, use is increased just to achieve what once would be a rather normal high. In other words, the body is not happy, and neither are you as the depression kicks in.
So that means you think depression could be cured with drugs.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:46:57 AM
Could you people shut up and stop arguing!  PD, I *TOLD* you about trying to converse with this. . .alien.
:lol

This dude is hilarious. Either he simply can't read or he's just attempting to mimic Drinky. Either way it's not working. The two points I made stand, so why I'm arguing is beyond me. Perhaps it's because my internet ego is far too big, especially for a dumbass such as myself
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:48:38 AM
One can use these kinds of drugs in a "recreactional" manner for a time, but eventually it doesn't satisfy. The use increases due to the mind's reaction to the drug; as your dopamine starts depleting and the highs become weaker, use is increased just to achieve what once would be a rather normal high. In other words, the body is not happy, and neither are you as the depression kicks in.
So that means you think depression could be cured with drugs.
:lol :lol :lol

How long did it take you to search for that? It doesn't even have anything to do with this thread. That post was concerning illegal drug use.

So once again, where did I mention anti-depressants? In this thread or any other, although I certainly didn't expect you to dig up a month old post
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 01:52:08 AM
You're using as much proof that the body stops producing dopamine as psychiatrists do.

You did know that, right?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 01:55:31 AM
You're using as much proof that the body stops producing dopamine as psychiatrists do.

You did know that, right?

What's your point? Are you denying that constant use of illegal drugs like cocaine causes a "diminishing returns" like effect due to the loss of dopamine, which starts ruining the high? What medical magazine are you reading?

Stop changing the issue.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: TVC15 on February 13, 2007, 01:56:28 AM
Let me get this back on topic.

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Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 02:00:31 AM
No, there is no proof that the body stops producing dopamine.

Psychiatrists admit this if you ask, that's a theory that the brain stops producing dopamine and that you feel depressed specifically because the brain stopped producing dopamine.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 02:12:36 AM
Where did I say the body stops producing dopamine permanantly, or stops at all? Show me that please.

When you first start using drugs you get a high release in dopamine. Yet the more you do the drugs, the less dopamine is released - that's why I used the "diminishing returns" analogy.

Now you're just trying to instigate and/or catch me in a factual error. Not going to happen.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 02:18:33 AM
which is the same thing that anti-depressants do to make your brain release more.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 02:22:32 AM
So I take it you aren't a fan of anti-depressants correct?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 13, 2007, 02:25:44 AM
Has Roxy reched Meme status? Because this will be the best one to come out of Evilbore. EVER
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 02:26:04 AM
No, they are specifically designed to change your lifestyle, I highly doubt that they could help though.

Makes you believe you are physically addicted/disturbed.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on February 13, 2007, 02:28:55 AM
No, they are specifically designed to change your lifestyle, I highly doubt that they could help though.

Makes you believe you are physically addicted/disturbed.

So you tend to fall in line with Tom Cruise's beliefs - not all of them out course - on psychiatrists and anti-depressants?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: brawndolicious on February 13, 2007, 02:34:01 AM
I took them, hated the effect, got the shit beaten out of me for not wanting to take them anymore, and then hid them in the corner of my mouth for months.

That's not something that makes you go saying random facts on tv, that's something that's going to give you some fucking real-life experience.
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Prost on February 13, 2007, 09:34:58 AM
Do you feel guilty when you constantly try to sleep with women?
Title: Re: Jesus Christ, therapy is a waste of money.
Post by: Mupepe on February 13, 2007, 03:48:55 PM
Do you feel guilty when you constantly try to sleep with women?
No.  Not at all.