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Mupepe

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2007, 06:39:51 PM »
FoC: Actually, you and RT brought up culture, and it was in the context of immigration. 

So what are you saying?  That immigration should be limited because immigrants pose a threat to white culture and the English language in America?
i didn't bring up shit, babe.  i agreed to a sentiment and from the looks of it we weren't even really talking about the same thing.

i'm going to bang you. :hump

Too late.  You already jumped on the FoC bandwagon.  You're banging galen or taking a cold shower.
Is his name Galen?  I'm banging you whether you like it or not.  :hump :hump

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FlameOfCallandor

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2007, 06:40:02 PM »
FWIW, five years as a < 1% minority in Japan goes a long way towards reducing your tolerance for passive racism. Not that I was Callandoring it up before, mind you.

Dude, I fucking lived in Japan too. I lived with a Japanese family and attended a Japanese high school as a student.  so dont give me that bullshit.

Mandark

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2007, 06:40:46 PM »
Okay, put aside the black pride vs. white pride stuff for a moment.

You said culture and language are important when dealing with immigration.  How so?

FlameOfCallandor

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2007, 06:41:48 PM »
Okay, put aside the black pride vs. white pride stuff for a moment.

You said culture and language are important when dealing with immigration.  How so?

Make a new thread for that one.

TVC15

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2007, 06:44:07 PM »
Why are you proud to be white, FoC?  I mean, I'm totally enjoying being white, but it seems kind of dumb to feel proud over being lucky enough to be born into the majority.  It's not like you had to earn the right and fight to be white.

I'm not some crazy flag waving proud to be white nut. I'm pretty much just like you in that regard.

Then why did you bring up being proud of white culture when no one else brought it up, or even attempted to downplay it?

I was pointing out the double standard. It's ok to have "Black Pride" etc.. But once someone even says that white people have pride its deemed racist by people like yall.

1) Black pride is controlversial.  At least in the Black power/kill whitey sense.
2) Look at it from a sociological point of view.  Racial minorities grow up painfully aware that the majority has it better in the US.  Having "pride" for their group is a sort of self-acceptance thing.  They may not be the people in power, but they are proud of who they are.  And there's nothing wrong with that.

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Dude, I fucking lived in Japan too. I lived with a Japanese family and attended a Japanese high school as a student.  so dont give me that bullshit.

He had to work there and live on his own.  It wasn't a field trip.
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Van Cruncheon

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2007, 06:46:47 PM »
foc, do you NOT understand what a cultural minority is?

"black pride" in terms of american race relations is the belief that, as a MINORITY, their culture should NOT be subsumed by the dominant one but instead expressed in spite of it. white caucasians, who embody the majority culture, are in no threat of losing their cultural identity, so why would they need to organize to protect it?

what any of this has to do with hiring practices or access to education is beyond me, because i'm not a fuckin' fox news culture warrior who turns every controversial issue into a question of tribalism.

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FlameOfCallandor

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2007, 06:47:07 PM »
 ::)

You think it was a cake walk for me?

TVC15

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2007, 06:47:42 PM »
::)

You think it was a cake walk for me?

Compared to him, at least, yes.
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FlameOfCallandor

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2007, 06:47:53 PM »
So now I watch fox news? WTF?

FlameOfCallandor

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2007, 06:48:05 PM »
::)

You think it was a cake walk for me?

Compared to him, at least, yes.

How so?

brawndolicious

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2007, 06:49:31 PM »
Make a new thread for that one.
THAT is why he should be lepered.

1) Black pride is controlversial.  At least in the Black power/kill whitey sense.
2) Look at it from a sociological point of view.  Racial minorities grow up painfully aware that the majority has it better in the US.  Having "pride" for their group is a sort of self-acceptance thing.  They may not be the people in power, but they are proud of who they are.  And there's nothing wrong with that.
yeah around here you don't see asian pride.
How so?
One of you is looking for a job, the other isn't.  What was the last fucking thread about you motherfucking idiot?

TVC15

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2007, 06:49:56 PM »
::)

You think it was a cake walk for me?

Compared to him, at least, yes.

How so?

Because in life, the Real World is generally more difficult than school?
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FlameOfCallandor

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2007, 06:50:51 PM »
So I was unable to see the same society as him?

Van Cruncheon

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2007, 06:51:18 PM »
So now I watch fox news? WTF?

well, you certainly self-identified with the description i provided!
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TVC15

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2007, 06:52:14 PM »
So I was unable to see the same society as him?

He has more breadth of experience.  And he was probably there way longer than you.  And again, he was in the REAL WORLD, you were in SCHOOL WORLD.
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BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2007, 06:52:34 PM »
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Mandark

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2007, 06:55:45 PM »
Tacking on to Drinky's first post, there are all sorts of acceptable outlets for white pride.  Paeans to implicitly white "American" values or culture, celebrations of more specific ethnic roots (St. Patty's Day, Oktoberfest, Italian Americans who WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT IT), the Redneck Comedy Tour, etc.

We just don't notice because in the US, white gets taken to mean "not ethnic."

BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2007, 07:00:00 PM »
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BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2007, 07:01:31 PM »
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BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #79 on: June 28, 2007, 07:02:11 PM »
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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2007, 07:11:35 PM »
In a global sense, whites are not a majority.  It's something to be considered if you are going to discourage whites from claiming pride, as national boundaries are becoming less meaningful.

I am not proud of my culture so much as I am happy, but it seems hypocritical to support the idea of pride for one group and not another.  Sure, it may be practical now, but consider if things change radically in the future.  Hispanics or some other minority are now for the most part the ones in power.  What is now considered a healthy outlet for minorities to motivate themselves, could be fostered into an unhealthy form of bigotry if roles are reversed.

Now I wouldn't forbid the right of any group to claim they are proud of their race, as it would be immoral, but I don't think it is a healthy line of thinking. 

I think the best way to deal with supporters of white pride is to simply let them be as long as they are not violating anyone's rights.  Trying to suppress them only fuels their idea they are being persecuted.   




BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #81 on: June 28, 2007, 07:12:28 PM »
In a global sense, whites are not a majority.  It's something to be considered if you are going to discourage whites from claiming pride, as national boundaries are becoming less meaningful.

I am not proud of my culture so much as I am happy, but it seems hypocritical to support the idea of pride for one group and not another.  Sure, it may be practical now, but consider if things change radically in the future.  Hispanics or some other minority are now for the most part the ones in power.  What is now considered a healthy outlet for minorities to motivate themselves, could be fostered into an unhealthy form of bigotry if roles are reversed.

Now I wouldn't forbid the right of any group to claim they are proud of their race, as it would be immoral, but I don't think it is a healthy line of thinking. 

I think the best way to deal with supporters of white pride is to simply let them be as long as they are not violating anyone's rights.  Trying to suppress them only fuels their idea they are being persecuted.   





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TVC15

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2007, 07:17:32 PM »
Now I wouldn't forbid the right of any group to claim they are proud of their race, as it would be immoral, but I don't think it is a healthy line of thinking. 

Largely how I feel, but as I said above, especially the black pride movement has more to do with an acceptance of their own identity than legitimate, dictionary definition pride. 
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BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2007, 07:18:56 PM »
Now I wouldn't forbid the right of any group to claim they are proud of their race, as it would be immoral, but I don't think it is a healthy line of thinking. 

Largely how I feel, but as I said above, especially the black pride movement has more to do with an acceptance of their own identity than legitimate, dictionary definition pride. 

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BobbyRobby

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2007, 07:32:44 PM »
In a global sense, whites are not a majority.  It's something to be considered if you are going to discourage whites from claiming pride, as national boundaries are becoming less meaningful.

I am not proud of my culture so much as I am happy, but it seems hypocritical to support the idea of pride for one group and not another.  Sure, it may be practical now, but consider if things change radically in the future.  Hispanics or some other minority are now for the most part the ones in power.  What is now considered a healthy outlet for minorities to motivate themselves, could be fostered into an unhealthy form of bigotry if roles are reversed.

Now I wouldn't forbid the right of any group to claim they are proud of their race, as it would be immoral, but I don't think it is a healthy line of thinking. 

I think the best way to deal with supporters of white pride is to simply let them be as long as they are not violating anyone's rights.  Trying to suppress them only fuels their idea they are being persecuted.   

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BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2007, 07:34:16 PM »
In a global sense, whites are not a majority.  It's something to be considered if you are going to discourage whites from claiming pride, as national boundaries are becoming less meaningful.

I am not proud of my culture so much as I am happy, but it seems hypocritical to support the idea of pride for one group and not another.  Sure, it may be practical now, but consider if things change radically in the future.  Hispanics or some other minority are now for the most part the ones in power.  What is now considered a healthy outlet for minorities to motivate themselves, could be fostered into an unhealthy form of bigotry if roles are reversed.

Now I wouldn't forbid the right of any group to claim they are proud of their race, as it would be immoral, but I don't think it is a healthy line of thinking. 

I think the best way to deal with supporters of white pride is to simply let them be as long as they are not violating anyone's rights.  Trying to suppress them only fuels their idea they are being persecuted.   

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Himu

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2007, 07:48:25 PM »
Why was spamming this topic necessary?
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BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2007, 07:54:53 PM »
Why was spamming this topic necessary?

you are asking the wrong question!
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BlackMage

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Re: Let's define racism
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2007, 08:10:36 PM »
It's a shame when I have to ignore a user just read a thread.

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