Author Topic: TRANSFORMER-TON: J.J. Abrams cockblocked Michael Bay (Read 5263 times)

The Fake Shemp · « **on:** July 05, 2007, 03:43:15 AM »

Transformers, which was the equal to a ton of fun in whatever Cybertron unit of measurement that Autbots use, was cockblocked by J.J. Abrams before the movie started. This here teaser, for Abrams' hush-hush monster movie codenamed "Cloverfield", is probably the best teaser I can ever remember in recent memory. It generated a buzz and an insane amount of interest just in our small theater - it's that awesome. The concept looks incredible and it comes out of my birthday to boot. Here's hoping it's solid.

drozmight · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2007, 03:49:00 AM »

This looks like Lost, in Manhattan.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2007, 03:51:40 AM »

Not really. I guess maybe because it features a monster and J.J. Abrams, but that's like saying Jurassic Park is Jaws with dinosaurs.

drozmight · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2007, 03:54:37 AM »

But what the monster actually is looks like it's going to be some big mystery, which makes me think of Lost.

"I heard it's a giant lion!"

*cue strange warped sound effect before something strange happens*

I'll probably see it.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2007, 03:57:19 AM »

It's not much of a mystery as it is smart filmmaking. Always keep the fear in people's minds.

drozmight · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:02:51 AM »

Maybe it's like The Sphere and Sam Jackson's dreaming the monster into existence.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:06:29 AM »

Maybe you should shut the hell up!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:10:20 AM »

JJ abrams wrote Alias. I hope Jennifer Garner is in this.

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I can't see what the monster looked like from that crappy video. :'(

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #8 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:13:37 AM »

JJ Abrams is a hack

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #9 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:15:42 AM »

Father_Mike... you're not supposed to see what the monster looks like. You don't ever see it in the teaser.

And Patel, all bitching about Abrams as a creative force aside, can you not agree the concept is at the very least, solid?

Ichirou · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:16:05 AM »

J.J. Abrams made Mission Impossible III, A.K.A. "What Alias Would Be Like if Jennifer Garner Was a Dude."

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:17:40 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 05, 2007, 04:16:05 AM

J.J. Abrams made Mission Impossible III, A.K.A. "What Alias Would Be Like if Jennifer Garner Was a Dude."

Ya and it sucked, ok, it didn't suck but it wasn't OMG awesome like Hot Fuzz. Alias was better though.

Jennifer Garner

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:19:03 AM »

Thankfully, Abrams is neither directing or writing this project!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:20:00 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 04:19:03 AM

Thankfully, Abrams is neither directing or writing this project!

But producing it, so their is a chance of Jenny then?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:20:09 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 04:15:42 AM

And Patel, all bitching about Abrams as a creative force aside, can you not agree the concept is at the very least, solid?

What, Blair Witch Project as a disaster movie? That's not a concept, that's an abortive film school project.

Given what a clusterfuck Lost is I doubt this will be anything worthwhile.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:22:40 AM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on July 05, 2007, 04:20:09 AM

What, Blair Witch Project as a disaster movie? That's not a concept, that's an abortive film school project.

It really hasn't been done on this scale in America. Sure, it's POV with HD handycams and whatnot, but it's obviously got a budget behind, as evident by the pyrotechnics and STATUE OF LIBERTY HEAD that crashes on the pavement. I think the concept is gold.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #16 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:43:30 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 04:22:40 AM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on July 05, 2007, 04:20:09 AM
What, Blair Witch Project as a disaster movie? That's not a concept, that's an abortive film school project.

It really hasn't been done on this scale in America. Sure, it's POV with HD handycams and whatnot, but it's obviously got a budget behind, as evident by the pyrotechnics and STATUE OF LIBERTY HEAD that crashes on the pavement. I think the concept is gold.

That was a Statue of Liberty head?

Maybe you should wait until there's something better than Russian handicam footage before hyping your next disappointment.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:45:34 AM »

Uh, I saw it in theatres tonight.

demi · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:46:47 AM »

Cloverfield > The Darkness

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:47:40 AM »

Quote from: demi on July 05, 2007, 04:46:47 AM

Cloverfield > The Darkness

I think there is a good chance this is true.

jiji · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2007, 05:27:18 AM »

Cloverfield trailer > Transformers movie

That explosion early in the trailer was damned effective at getting my attention. And everybody in the theater was left wanting more when not even the title was shown.

Cheebs · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2007, 08:08:36 AM »

JJ Abrams is awesome and I can't wait for his Star Trek movie out next year.

First 'Trek movie to use ILM since First Contact!

bud · « **Reply #22 on:** July 05, 2007, 09:59:11 AM »

star trek, lol.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:00:09 AM »

That Star Trek reboot is going to be a trainwreck

bud · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:02:46 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 10:00:09 AM

That Star Trek reboot is going to be a trainwreck

not just the reboot but the entire series were lame. i'd rather watch the star wars prequels than watching any of the lame star trek episodes.

Cheebs · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:04:34 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 10:00:09 AM

That Star Trek reboot is going to be a trainwreck

it will piss fans off to no end. Remember the writers of Transformers are the same writer's behind the Trek reboot. They have been saying while on the transformers press circuit that this trek will be a huuuge action adventure with tons of explosions and fighting unlike the previous ones lol.

It will make a lot of money since it will OMG MATT DAMON HUGE EXPLOSIONS EPIC ACTION FILM rather than star trek, but it will piss SOOOOO many people off who are trekkies.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:05:29 AM »

Wrath of Khan and First Contact were good sci-fi flicks, but the rest were pretty much garbage. Oh yeah, The Undiscovered Country was good.

But casting other people as Kirk and Spock in an age where people still remember Shatner and Nimoy for those two career-defining roles, not to mention Nimoy apparently has a cameo, is going to backfire. And it's going to backfire huge.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:07:07 AM »

Quote from: Cheebs on July 05, 2007, 10:04:34 AM

It will make a lot of money since it will OMG MATT DAMON HUGE EXPLOSIONS EPIC ACTION FILM rather than star trek, but it will piss SOOOOO many people off who are trekkies.

Dude, we're not talking about Trekkies. Captain Kirk is a fairly recognizable person in pop culture. The biggest Star Trek films were not fueled by Trekkies, but average movie goers. Those people recognize Shatner as Kirk - not Damon.

I bet dollars to dougnuts that when Matt Damon appears on screen as Kirk, people will laugh. Straight up laugh.

Cheebs · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:07:39 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 10:05:29 AM

Wrath of Khan and First Contact were good sci-fi flicks, but the rest were pretty much garbage. Oh yeah, The Undiscovered Country was good.

But casting other people as Kirk and Spock in an age where people still remember Shatner and Nimoy for those two career-defining roles, not to mention Nimoy apparently has a cameo, is going to backfire. And it's going to backfire huge.

From what I can tell I don't think Nimoy will be playing Spock. He'll have a cameo as something random. Just for a "omg itz nimoy" thing.

And it is going to be VERY hard to sell the new actors. But Abrams "dream" for the franchise is to turn it into James Bond, make it the Captain Kirk franchise and recast Kirk whenever the current actor gets too old. It's damn risky since unlike Bond or Super Hero's it has had one actor in the role for 40 years.

Even though I am excited I do not expect the audience will buy it up easily. Matt Damon in that gold fuzzy little top and black space pants from the 60's will be a veeeeeery hard sell.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:08:47 AM »

New monster movie is a Godzilla movie I bet lol

Cheebs · « **Reply #30 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:09:01 AM »

Quote from: Lil' Slugger on July 05, 2007, 10:08:47 AM

New monster movie is a Godzilla movie I bet lol

Sony owns the rights to Godzilla, not Paramount. It will be "Godzilla like" I think, as in a big ol' monster crushing a city type of deal, just a original creature. Paramount doesn't have any control over the Toho monsters, Sony has 100% rights to use 'em.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #31 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:11:58 AM »

Quote from: Cheebs on July 05, 2007, 10:07:39 AM

From what I can tell I don't think Nimoy will be playing Spock. He'll have a cameo as something random. Just for a "omg itz nimoy" thing.

Which is so utterly stupid, because if whomever is cast to play Spock (Brody confirmed?) is not like ten times better than Nimoy, his cameo will only serve to remind audience of the original crew. I think that's why they're not giving Shatner a cameo; his presence will upstage Damon for sure.

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And it is going to be VERY hard to sell the new actors. But Abrams "dream" for the franchise is to turn it into James Bond, make it the Captain Kirk franchise and recast Kirk whenever the current actor gets too old. It's damn risky since unlike Bond or Super Hero's it has had one actor in the role for 40 years.

You've said this like, ten times before. Just because its Abrams' idea doesn't make it a good idea.

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Even though I am excited I do not expect the audience will buy it up easily. Matt Damon in that gold fuzzy little top and black space pants from the 60's will be a veeeeeery hard sell.

I think Damon is pretty bad casting all around. I look forward to hearing groans during the previews.

bud · « **Reply #32 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:12:55 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 03:43:15 AM

Transformers, which was the equal to a ton of fun in whatever Cybertron unit of measurement that Autbots use, was cockblocked by J.J. Abrams before the movie started. This here teaser, for Abrams' hush-hush monster movie codenamed "Cloverfield", is probably the best teaser I can ever remember in recent memory. It generated a buzz and an insane amount of interest just in our small theater - it's that awesome. The concept looks incredible and it comes out of my birthday to boot. Here's hoping it's solid.

the teaser looks great. war of the world sans the ending was awesome and if they gaet the same vibe in this movie then it could be great.

Cheebs · « **Reply #33 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:14:09 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 10:11:58 AM

You've said this like, ten times before. Just because its Abrams' idea doesn't make it a good idea.

eh, trek reboot with nostalgia and "big" actors is still 100x better than enterprise or more 24th century shit. Also I think your Shatner idea makes sense, because the dude was apparently pissed he hasn't been offered a cameo.

Also we'll know if the Damon, Brody (which IGN seemed damned confident about)..etc stuff will be true soon. The cast for the film will be revealed at panel during comic con. Abrams and friends will do one of those Q & A panel things for it seems and let the lid off on the plot/casting/etc

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #34 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:17:19 AM »

They should just wait until Shatner, Nimoy and original crew are all dead and then use photo realistic CG to make new adventures with the classic Nimoy/Shatner. I mean, if you are going to rape their characters, then at least go all out!

Tauntaun · « **Reply #35 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:17:34 AM »

Quote from: Cheebs on July 05, 2007, 10:09:01 AM

Quote from: Lil' Slugger on July 05, 2007, 10:08:47 AM
New monster movie is a Godzilla movie I bet lol
Sony owns the rights to Godzilla, not Paramount. It will be "Godzilla like" I think, as in a big ol' monster crushing a city type of deal, just a original creature. Paramount doesn't have any control over the Toho monsters, Sony has 100% rights to use 'em.

Godzilla would pwn that bastard cause I said so. Man I want to watch a Godzilla movie now.

Cheebs · « **Reply #36 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:19:53 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 10:17:19 AM

They should just wait until Shatner, Nimoy and original crew are all dead and then use photo realistic CG to make new adventures with the classic Nimoy/Shatner. I mean, if you are going to rape their characters, then at least go all out!

But the fantastic Michael Giacchino (Lost, The Incredibles) is doing the score

Hearing how he pulls off the epic movie theme will be so worth it.

Solo · « **Reply #37 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:21:38 AM »

Abrams should stick to TV. MI:III was terrible.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #38 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:22:21 AM »

Mission: Impossible III was the best episode of Alias ever!

Cheebs · « **Reply #39 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:23:48 AM »

MI 3 was a ton of fun. Best one of the MI films. And never forgot Abrams under-rated 90's drama with Harrison Ford. REGARDING HENRY

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #40 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:25:44 AM »

Actually, I easily forgot it - it was forgettable.

And DePalma's original Mission: Impossible adaptation was about a billion times better than Abrams. I mean, his entry was better than John Woo's, but that's like saying his film was better than Batman & Robin - it's not really a compliment.

Cheebs · « **Reply #41 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:26:42 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 10:25:44 AM

Actually, I easily forgot it - it was forgettable.

And DePalma's original Mission: Impossible adaptation was about a billion times better than Abrams. I mean, his entry was better than John Woo's, but that's like saying his film was better than Batman & Robin - it's not really a compliment.

MEH

MI 1 - 7.5/10
MI 2 - 6/10
MI 3 - 8/10

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #42 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:30:11 AM »

DePalma built legitimate tension in the first one, something Abrams never accomplished. I don't even know what the fuck Abrams movie was about. I've already forgotten it and it's been like - what? - a year or so? Two? That's so bad.

Also, all the stunts were a billion times better than any in Abrams' film. You know DePalma's was better because Mission: Impossible was so much apart of 90s pop culture. How many parodies of Ethan Hunt's classic Langley hacking sequence did we see? Maybe a billion? There's nothing close to that in Mission: Impossible III.

bud · « **Reply #43 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:32:34 AM »

Quote from: Willco on July 05, 2007, 10:30:11 AM

DePalma built legitimate tension in the first one, something Abrams never accomplished. I don't even know what the fuck Abrams movie was about. I've already forgotten it and it's been like - what? - a year or so? Two? That's so bad.

Also, all the stunts were a billion times better than any in Abrams' film. You know DePalma's was better because Mission: Impossible was so much apart of 90s pop culture. How many parodies of Ethan Hunt's classic Langley hacking sequence did we see? Maybe a billion? There's nothing close to that in Mission: Impossible III.

we shall see many parodies of cruise's RUNNING ANIMATIONZ

Solo · « **Reply #44 on:** July 05, 2007, 11:29:13 AM »

MI:

De Palma's - 8.5
Woo's - 5
Abrams - 6

News:

Author Topic: TRANSFORMER-TON: J.J. Abrams cockblocked Michael Bay (Read 5263 times)