Author Topic: Real Talk: Nintendo is ruining gaming (Read 16802 times)

Human Snorenado · « **on:** July 12, 2007, 05:46:57 AM »

It's true. Their conference consisted of them saying for about half of it "Hey, we're gonna go explore these new markets with non-games that appeal to non-gamers. Isn't that great?"

Then about 1/4 of it was them showing the latest franchise retreads in their library, all infected with shitty waggle or stylus horsecrap gimmickry. This was done to keep the traditional "hardcore" fan buying Nintendo shit, all the while preparing them for the eventual day that Nintendo no longer makes anything resembling an actual game, which of course the ninthings will just say is a brilliant stroke of genius since it will make Nintendo more money, and isn't that what matters? Also, they paid lip-service to the idea of supporting online but then completely missed the boat when they left one of their biggest multi-player franchise titles coming out this year decidedly OFFline.

Of course, the cherry on top of this crap sundae was the Wiifit presentation.

So, why is this a bad thing? Well, because Nintendo are probably going to be the market leader as far as install base goes. They are pandering to a demographic that has no interest in actual games with an affordable piece of hardware. Now, I don't really care if Nintendo sells more consoles than MS or Sony. Honestly. The problem arises, however, in that 3rd party devs will cater to the stupid gimmick laden Nintendo consoles and ignore actual gamers pining for product. We're already starting to see this (DQIX anyone?) and frankly it's pretty frightening in it's implications.

So in solution, we should take off and nuke Nintendo from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

ananus · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:54:22 AM »

so far every third party that isn't square enix hasn't really shown interest on the wii, so i'm not worried. i doubt it'll be suddenly getting a lot of support.

either way, i can't believe so many nintendo fans are still supporting nintendo. i thought they were smarter than that.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:56:07 AM »

Quote from: ananus on July 12, 2007, 05:54:22 AM

so far every third party that isn't square enix hasn't really shown interest on the wii, so i'm not worried. i doubt it'll be suddenly getting a lot of support.

either way, i can't believe so many nintendo fans are still supporting nintendo. i thought they were smarter than that.

They are abused spouses. They will go to any length to justify Nintendo's crapulence.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:59:43 AM »

I disagree

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:01:59 AM »

Quote from: Scenester on July 12, 2007, 05:59:43 AM

I disagree

Yes, but you have terrible taste so your opinion is pretty much rendered moot. I mean, you like Shenmue. Shenmue.

John_Carmack · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:05:31 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 05:46:57 AM

completely missed the boat when they left one of their biggest multi-player franchise titles coming out this year decidedly OFFline.

which franchise

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:09:43 AM »

Quote from: John_Carmack on July 12, 2007, 06:05:31 AM

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 05:46:57 AM
completely missed the boat when they left one of their biggest multi-player franchise titles coming out this year decidedly OFFline.

which franchise

Super Smash Bros. Not like *I* enjoy it or anything, but for them to harp on about how they aren't dissing online gamers and then leave the game that most of their fanbase wanted online OFFline is pretty stupid.

John_Carmack · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:14:04 AM »

I did not watch the nintendo conference, is that game being off line confirmed, or speculation?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:22:48 AM »

Quote from: John_Carmack on July 12, 2007, 06:14:04 AM

I did not watch the nintendo conference, is that game being off line confirmed, or speculation?

It's speculation. But they made a big point of saying "We're not overlooking online! Here's a list of all the stuff we have coming out with online play!" and SSB was certainly NOT on that list.

trippingmartian · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:24:39 AM »

Nintendo will always do what they do better than everyone else. That is part of why you saw third party support dwindle on previous consoles and why it probably will continue in the future with the Wii.

eg. where is the Wii Sports killer?

etiolate · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:24:58 AM »

This is how it is.

There is Mario, Metroid, Manhunt, SC Legends and Fire Emblem due out on Wii. Typical board fodder reaction ignores games, and responds to Wii Fit.

Gamecube fixed a lot of the issues N64 had, way more third party support and more 'mature' titles, even nabbing Resident Evil. Typical board fodder and gamer media ignores this and sees a purple lunchbox and Mario Sunshine commercial.

It's not like Nintendo never tried to be this idea people have for them, it's just that the people asking for that Nintendo were never going to be satisfied. No offense, but the reactions are distinguished mentally-challenged to me. Why would Nintendo focus on an audience that wants to hate them, that has some sort of weird male insecurity about videogames of all things? You'll buy anyways, because the games are there. Nintendo likes their new market, because their new market is approachable. The new market is profitable, less bitchy and less childish in their reaction. So they ignore you and aim at the mainstream, because they respond to things other than Link in black.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:30:11 AM »

Thanks Nintendo

*takes a slap to the face*

Masta, can I have anotha one?

*gives me Ponyz for the DS*

Looks good

bud · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:32:52 AM »

bububu i want to lose weight HOW DOES I LOSED WEIGHT ON THE PS3 OR 360. HOW.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:33:49 AM »

Mario- looks awesome. But does it feature shitty waggle gimmickry? Only time will tell!
Metroid- waggle. Didn't like the first two. Pass.
Manhunt- lol... are you serious?
SC Legends- I can get it on the other systems, where it will look better and not have forced waggle faggotry. Fail.
Fire Emblem- could be good but always liked it better as a portable game.

So we have Mario unless it's waggled, and MAYBE Fire Emblem. Not looking good, chief. And I will definitely NOT be buying a Wii soon or probably ever. I view it as helping the terrorists, who hate our freedom.

The thing is, you're wrong. I want to like Nintendo products, because there are certain things they do well. But they don't seem to want to make real games anymore. Also, you seem to be ignoring the fact that even though they have all those games, they chose to focus mainly on thumping their chests over getting a bunch of non-gamers to buy their console and capped it off with having their main focus of the conference be on trying to attract more of them. But of course you're going to believe what you want to believe- have fun with that.

tiesto · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:40:29 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 05:46:57 AM

The problem arises, however, in that 3rd party devs will cater to the stupid gimmick laden Nintendo consoles and ignore actual gamers pining for product. We're already starting to see this (DQIX anyone?) and frankly it's pretty frightening in it's implications.

What's the problem with DQIX being on DS? I think handhelds are excellent for RPGs, because they force companies to design more concise games that don't require you to devote a whole chunk of time to play (FFXII, last console-based RPG I played, had spots where there were save points every hour and a half). Aside from maybe interface (touching stuff on the touch screen to select the commands, but I am pretty sure you can select with the d-pad and buttons as well), I don't see any gimmick laden stuff in it either? The Wi-Fi multiplayer? I see that more as a nice side feature.

P.S. Based on what I played at E3, you waggle to do Mario's spin attack or jump through the stars to get to the next world, and you can use the pointer to manipulate background objects.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:48:13 AM »

Actually DQIX isn't so bad and will probably be a pretty good game- I have an affinity for classic rpgs. I'm replaying through the Phantasy Star series as we speak.

But if DQIX means that all future DQ main series games will be stuck on inferior hardware, count me out.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:51:02 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 08:48:13 AM

Actually DQIX isn't so bad and will probably be a pretty good game- I have an affinity for classic rpgs. I'm replaying through the Phantasy Star series as we speak.

But if DQIX means that all future DQ main series games will be stuck on inferior hardware, count me out.

For realz

I want the Dragon Quest world to be fully realized on an actual Next Gen console. 360/PS3 plskthx

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:52:30 AM »

I think that DQX will end up on the PS3. By the time it's ready to come out, the PS3 should have a better install base situation. After this E3 I'm actually pondering getting one (although NOT for KZ2 and MGS3 like everyone else).

abrader · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:57:46 AM »

I support this thread 100%

bud · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:05:03 AM »

the ps3 is bombing in japan, triumph. the wii is outselling everything everywhere and since se likes dem monies i'd say it'll come out for the wii

Himu · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:09:34 AM »

This thread is the truth

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:13:34 AM »

Quote from: bud on July 12, 2007, 10:05:03 AM

the ps3 is bombing in japan, triumph. the wii is outselling everything everywhere and since se likes dem monies i'd say it'll come out for the wii

la la la la

NOT LISTENING

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:26:07 AM »

I wrote a blog post called "Nintendo is Killing Gaming" last night.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:28:31 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 12, 2007, 10:26:07 AM

I wrote a blog post called "Nintendo is Killing Gaming" last night.

Link me, my fine puerto rican friend.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:34:27 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 10:28:31 AM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 12, 2007, 10:26:07 AM
I wrote a blog post called "Nintendo is Killing Gaming" last night.

Link me, my fine puerto rican friend.

There ya go.

I actually didn't touch upon the effects reverberating through the industry, which I should have.

Shuri · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:42:02 AM »

Some guy at gaf said that the gaming industry might be getting into the state of the music industry in 1997 when Britney Spears released her first cd. It sold tons, it was a fun novelty act at first and then the entire mainstream industry started coming out with Britney clones, girl groups, and so on and for years they ruled the waves until they chocked themselves on their own cocks.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:42:27 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 12, 2007, 10:34:27 AM

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 12, 2007, 10:26:07 AM
I wrote a blog post called "Nintendo is Killing Gaming" last night.

Link me, my fine puerto rican friend.

There ya go.

I actually didn't touch upon the effects reverberating through the industry, which I should have.

bork · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:53:43 AM »

Quote from: bud on July 12, 2007, 10:05:03 AM

the ps3 is bombing in japan, triumph. the wii is outselling everything everywhere and since se likes dem monies i'd say it'll come out for the wii

LOLz

The real question is WHY the Wii is selling, since it doesn't have SHIT for software. It's the DS that's the real juggernaut over here.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #28 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:10:23 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on July 12, 2007, 10:53:43 AM

Quote from: bud on July 12, 2007, 10:05:03 AM
the ps3 is bombing in japan, triumph. the wii is outselling everything everywhere and since se likes dem monies i'd say it'll come out for the wii

LOLz

The real question is WHY the Wii is selling, since it doesn't have SHIT for software. It's the DS that's the real juggernaut over here.

It's selling because it's very appealing to Japanese people- small, cute and it has a wacky gimmick.

Solo · « **Reply #29 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:17:18 AM »

I didnt know you had a blog, Juice :_(

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #30 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:19:24 AM »

I disagree too. You anti-Ninty folk are higher on the "hysterical twat" meter than Nintendo fans are.

bud · « **Reply #31 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:19:48 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on July 12, 2007, 10:53:43 AM

Quote from: bud on July 12, 2007, 10:05:03 AM
the ps3 is bombing in japan, triumph. the wii is outselling everything everywhere and since se likes dem monies i'd say it'll come out for the wii

LOLz

The real question is WHY the Wii is selling, since it doesn't have SHIT for software. It's the DS that's the real juggernaut over here.

wi sports and wii play and soon wiifit

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #32 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:29:02 AM »

is that any funnier than the amount of FPSs available on the PS3 and the 360? it may not be you ubernerdlings cuppa, but you can't say that Nintendo isn't doing something DIFFERENT.

and ruining gaming while they're at it.

fucking chicken little muhfuhs

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #33 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:33:30 AM »

Shut it, cornhole. It's my duty to hate anything Nintendo does.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #34 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:34:55 AM »

You'd fit in well at OA, there's quite a lot of passionate anti-Nintendo people there too. Nice company you're keeping!

bud · « **Reply #35 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:36:53 AM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 12, 2007, 11:29:02 AM

is that any funnier than the amount of FPSs available on the PS3 and the 360? it may not be you ubernerdlings cuppa, but you can't say that Nintendo isn't doing something DIFFERENT.

and ruining gaming while they're at it. fucking chicken little muhfuhs

lets look at some of sony's future 1st party games.

lair, warhawk, ratchet, uncharted, gt, killzone, littlebigplanet, heavenly sword and singstar.

i see only one fps and alot of variety, the same can be said for ms' i'd say.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #36 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:39:44 AM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 12, 2007, 11:34:55 AM

You'd fit in well at OA, there's quite a lot of passionate anti-Nintendo people there too. Nice company you're keeping!

Riiight. So you're saying that what Nintendo is doing is GOOD for the industry or the interests of people that don't want shitty, gimmicky non-games taking over the hobby?

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #37 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:41:55 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 11:39:44 AM

So you're saying that what Nintendo is doing is GOOD for the industry...

Yes. You ARE aware that competition is a GOOD thing in an open market; right, comrade?

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 11:39:44 AM

...or the interests of people that don't want shitty, gimmicky non-games taking over the hobby?

See my "chicken little" comment above. I'd rather have gimmicky "non-games" (which doesn't even make sense but hey, keep with the EB groupthink) over the same old same old First Person Shooter any day of the week.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #38 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:44:15 AM »

REAL TALK, dude. The only console fps I have really enjoyed has been Halo. I'm certainly not who you're trying to criticize.

And I laid down why what Nintendo is doing is BAD for the market in my first post pretty well. You just have to have something to bitch about, Corny.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #39 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:45:10 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 11:44:15 AM

And I laid down why what Nintendo is doing is BAD for the market in my first post pretty well. You just have to have something to bitch about, Corny.

These two statements back to back are rather amusing, Sir Duke.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #40 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:47:53 AM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 12, 2007, 11:45:10 AM

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 11:44:15 AM
And I laid down why what Nintendo is doing is BAD for the market in my first post pretty well. You just have to have something to bitch about, Corny.

These two statements back to back are rather amusing, Sir Duke.

Well, people often lump us together. Although I'm no longer a bearded ginger. Shaved it on Monday.

tiesto · « **Reply #41 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:53:00 AM »

I can't believe this "Nintendo" company, they are gonna destroy gaming! Keeping on talking on how they want to expand the gaming market, while making gimmicky crap! Look, their system comes packed with a robot, a fucking ROBOT? What kind of gimmick is that? And now look at this... the Power Pad? This company has the audacity to market this product to people who weren't around for the glorious days of Intellivision and Atari, and expect gamers to EXERCISE? Who do they think they are? I've been playing video games for years and so I want the industry to cater to me and other hardcore gamers only, screw the soccer moms, screw girls, screw old people, companies should make games JUST and ONLY for us! Give us our Pac-Man and Space Invaders clones ad nauseum, no more Power Pad, or ROB, or Zapper gimmicks!

But that Super Mario Bros game looks really awesome, admittedly...

Beezy · « **Reply #42 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:54:42 AM »

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21649.html

Stop bitching, bitches.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #43 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:55:23 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on July 12, 2007, 11:53:00 AM

I can't believe this "Nintendo" company, they are gonna destroy gaming! Keeping on talking on how they want to expand the gaming market, while making gimmicky crap! Look, their system comes packed with a robot, a fucking ROBOT? What kind of gimmick is that? And now look at this... the Power Pad? This company has the audacity to market this product to people who weren't around for the glorious days of Intellivision and Atari, and expect gamers to EXERCISE? Who do they think they are? I've been playing video games for years and so I want the industry to cater to me and other hardcore gamers only, screw the soccer moms, screw girls, screw old people, companies should make games JUST and ONLY for us! Give us our Pac-Man and Space Invaders clones ad nauseum, no more Power Pad, or ROB, or Zapper gimmicks!

But that Super Mario Bros game looks really awesome, admittedly...

bud · « **Reply #44 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:59:04 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on July 12, 2007, 11:54:42 AM

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21649.html

Stop bitching, bitches.

nobody can and should deny the awesomness of smg

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #45 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:01:16 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on July 12, 2007, 11:53:00 AM

I can't believe this "Nintendo" company, they are gonna destroy gaming! Keeping on talking on how they want to expand the gaming market, while making gimmicky crap! Look, their system comes packed with a robot, a fucking ROBOT? What kind of gimmick is that? And now look at this... the Power Pad? This company has the audacity to market this product to people who weren't around for the glorious days of Intellivision and Atari, and expect gamers to EXERCISE? Who do they think they are? I've been playing video games for years and so I want the industry to cater to me and other hardcore gamers only, screw the soccer moms, screw girls, screw old people, companies should make games JUST and ONLY for us! Give us our Pac-Man and Space Invaders clones ad nauseum, no more Power Pad, or ROB, or Zapper gimmicks!

But that Super Mario Bros game looks really awesome, admittedly...

SMB was awesome, just like SMG will most likely be. Unfortunately, Wii Fit will sell twice to three times as much as SMG, unlike the short-lived gimmick examples you gave.

Maybe I should just be blaming people. Mainly Japanese people.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #46 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:14:29 PM »

The superior version of RE4 is for Wii.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #47 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:25:36 PM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on July 12, 2007, 12:14:29 PM

The superior version of RE4 is for Wii.

Waggle = suck.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #48 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:26:57 PM »

Then DON'T BUY IT, Raoul.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #49 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:28:40 PM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 12:25:36 PM

Quote from: Bloodwake on July 12, 2007, 12:14:29 PM
The superior version of RE4 is for Wii.

Waggle = suck.

Better accuracy in shot placement? Check
Extra shit that was in the PS2 version? Check
Graphics of the GC version? Check

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #50 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:30:01 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 12, 2007, 12:26:57 PM

Then DON'T BUY IT, Raoul.

I have to make OTHER people not buy it, corny. Because if I don't, and then Nintendo wins this generation all we'll ever have is underpowered consoles with stupid gimmicks and no real games anymore. I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound good to me. Stop mourning Sega's worthless corpse and get off yer duff to defend the hobby.

I'm proposing we form a new Defense Force- the Unbiased Console Warrior True Game Brigade. No ninthings allowed.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #51 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:31:47 PM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 12:30:01 PM

I have to make OTHER people not buy it, corny. Because if I don't, and then Nintendo wins this generation all we'll ever have is underpowered consoles with stupid gimmicks and no real games anymore. I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound good to me. Stop mourning Sega's worthless corpse and get off yer duff to defend the hobby.

See, this is just distinguished mentally-challenged. Nintendo isn't going to ruin gaming any more than butthurt nerds on the internet would be able to "stop" Nintendo.

hyp · « **Reply #52 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:32:39 PM »

when MS announces "Scene-IT" as one of its premier exclusives, that's when you know nintendo is slowly influencing other companies to go a similar route -- which means us japafag, western-loving fps, rpg whoring, hard as fuck action-oriented, masochist loving gamer selves are going to get the short end of the stick in the future.

ps3 will follow suit soon... you just watch. at the moment they seem to be more hardcore oriented than 360.

Beezy · « **Reply #53 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:34:13 PM »

Has Nintendo just distinguished mentally-challenged gaming evolution?

bud · « **Reply #54 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:36:34 PM »

Quote from: hyp on July 12, 2007, 12:32:39 PM

when MS announces "Scene-IT" as one of its premier exclusives, that's when you know nintendo is slowly influencing other companies to go a similar route -- which means us japafag, western-loving fps, rpg whoring, hard as fuck action-oriented, masochist loving gamer selves are going to get the short end of the stick in the future.

ps3 will follow suit soon... you just watch. at the moment they seem to be more hardcore oriented than 360.

scene it is a rip-off of buzz on the ps2. the controllers are practically the same.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #55 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:37:23 PM »

WIN BUTTON

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #56 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:37:58 PM »

Quote from: hyp on July 12, 2007, 12:32:39 PM

when MS announces "Scene-IT" as one of its premier exclusives, that's when you know nintendo is slowly influencing other companies to go a similar route -- which means us japafag, western-loving fps, rpg whoring, hard as fuck action-oriented, masochist loving gamer selves are going to get the short end of the stick in the future.

Scene-IT for the 360 was one of the only things that I was interested in from this years' E3. Everyone gets their own buzzer!

hyp · « **Reply #57 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:39:57 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 12, 2007, 12:37:58 PM

Quote from: hyp on July 12, 2007, 12:32:39 PM
when MS announces "Scene-IT" as one of its premier exclusives, that's when you know nintendo is slowly influencing other companies to go a similar route -- which means us japafag, western-loving fps, rpg whoring, hard as fuck action-oriented, masochist loving gamer selves are going to get the short end of the stick in the future.

Scene-IT for the 360 was one of the only things that I was interested in from this years' E3. Everyone gets their own buzzer!

i can see it being pretty fun, but i'm going to scratch my head if this is the direction microsoft is headed. they should stick to XBLA for the quirky, casual shit. awesome casual shit like carcassone

Bloodwake · « **Reply #58 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:45:55 PM »

Quote from: hyp on July 12, 2007, 12:32:39 PM

when MS announces "Scene-IT" as one of its premier exclusives, that's when you know nintendo is slowly influencing other companies to go a similar route -- which means us japafag, western-loving fps, rpg whoring, hard as fuck action-oriented, masochist loving gamer selves are going to get the short end of the stick in the future.

ps3 will follow suit soon... you just watch. at the moment they seem to be more hardcore oriented than 360.

I think Sony has the same goal as Nintendo (get more people interested in gaming besides those that are already interested) except they are going about it in different ways. With HOME they are trying to appeal to the Myspacers and Second Life people. It's basically both of those ideas combined into one service. Nintendo, however, is trying to appeal to fitness people, old people, and women.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #59 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:46:50 PM »

Fuck HOME. It just makes actually launching a game more complicated, it seems.

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