Author Topic: Sony fails, new PSP is the same as old PSP (Read 9388 times)

FlameOfCallandor · « **on:** July 12, 2007, 12:58:08 PM »

http://www.engadget.com/photos/sonys-thinner-lighter-psp-hands-on/307987/

Old PSP:

New PSP:

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Old DSP:

New DS:

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bud · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:58:50 PM »

except that it isn't.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:59:22 PM »

Quote from: bud on July 12, 2007, 12:58:50 PM

except that it isn't.

Looks 100% the same to me.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:02:38 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 12, 2007, 12:59:22 PM

Quote from: bud on July 12, 2007, 12:58:50 PM
except that it isn't.

Looks 100% the same to me.

You fucking illiterate simp, they made it thinner and lighter. They NEVER said they had changed the layout or overall design of it.

GOD.

Shuri · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:05:46 PM »

Stop posting.

TVC15 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:18:57 PM »

It's nice to know that FoC is really dumb, if not exactly equally dumb, on all subjects. Much like his crude prejudiced views, this issue could be solved if he tried to actually read something, but Lo, the distinguished mentally-challenged, Lo.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:20:05 PM »

ohhhh Thinner and lighter! My wallet is hurting already.

I guess if it still emulates snes games it should do well.

How are the UMD movies doing anyway. Remember when people on GAF thought they would take off.

TVC15 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:20:38 PM »

Thinner and lighter? Yes, you haven't read up on it.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:24:31 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 12, 2007, 01:20:38 PM

Thinner and lighter? Yes, you haven't read up on it.

Well, he appears to have been able to read my post. It's a start!

tiesto · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:53:17 PM »

I was kinda hoping for an aesthetic redesign (clamshell and maybe a coating that won't leave a billion fingerprints from my greasy Italian fingertips) but this seems like it'll fix the numerous hardware flaws that burdened my experience with the old PSP.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:01:58 PM »

should we tell him about the new hardware features or let him keep stewing in his own distinguished mentally-challenged

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:04:32 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on July 12, 2007, 02:01:58 PM

should we tell him about the new hardware features or let him keep stewing in his own distinguished mentally-challenged

It won't matter. You've participate in FoC threads before, right? You could tell him that there's a pissed off cougar in the room and he's like "I clearly don't see it."

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:07:33 PM »

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The new PSP will be 33% lighter. It also will have the ability to output high-quality video, to a TV, for instance. Users will be able to connect the PSP to a bigger monitor and share their photos and videos.

Now I can play my playstation one games on my TV. It's about damn time.

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The PSP redesign will be available in September in Piano Black and Ice Silver. A PSP Entertainment Pack will include the Ice Silver version, Daxter, the UMD Family Guy collection, a 1GB memory stick, and will put gamers back $199.

More UMD movies!! And to think the $5 bin at frys was already full of them.

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Oh, and right after this announcement, Chewbacca walked on stage.[b/]

Clearly the most exciting even of the conference.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:10:31 PM »

This thread is awful. wtf.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:11:53 PM »

when FlameOfCallandor has a thought balloon I bet it's in ComicSans

Shuri · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:12:55 PM »

10$ paypal for the mod or admin that will permban FoC and all his current and future acccounts.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:17:33 PM »

At the very least I think he's proven over the last month or so that he should be a permanent leper, like Pee Dee and Miles Trahan. While he's lepered he's all nice and well behaved, but give him any sort of freedom and he just shits all over the place.

TVC15 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:20:07 PM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 12, 2007, 02:17:33 PM

At the very least I think he's proven over the last month or so that he should be a permanent leper, like Pee Dee and Miles Trahan. While he's lepered he's all nice and well behaved, but give him any sort of freedom and he just shits all over the place.

Definitely.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:20:29 PM »

b-b-b-b PLAYSTATION 1!

ON YOUR TV!!!

Clearly this is the future of gaming.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:22:28 PM »

Quote from: Shuri on July 12, 2007, 02:12:55 PM

10$ paypal for the mod or admin that will permban FoC and all his current and future acccounts.

$20 for the mod who does the same for shuri

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:26:41 PM »

it has double the RAM, a faster UMD drive, a new screen, new buttons, and is smaller and lighter. YOU ARE FUCK distinguished mentally-challenged. Y CAN'T TEXAN READ.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:26:57 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on July 12, 2007, 02:21:16 PM

YOU CAN'T READ

You right. And the possibility that chewbacca will burst in your room while you play.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:27:39 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 12, 2007, 02:26:57 PM

Quote from: Billy Rygar on July 12, 2007, 02:21:16 PM
YOU CAN'T READ

You right. And the possibility that chewbacca will burst in your room while you play.

ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:28:36 PM »

It's funny that you guys are getting whipped into such a frenzy over this. FoC is doing the same kind of trolling that most of you do to "Ninthings".

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:29:06 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 12, 2007, 02:28:36 PM

It's funny that you guys are getting whipped into such a frenzy over this. FoC is doing the same kind of trolling that most of you do to "Ninthings".

lol ding ding ding

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:tbslol :tbslol :tbslol

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Smooth Groove · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:29:55 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 12, 2007, 02:26:41 PM

it has double the RAM, a faster UMD drive, a new screen, new buttons, and is smaller and lighter. YOU ARE FUCK distinguished mentally-challenged. Y CAN'T TEXAN READ.

I didn't know about that. Would that affect how games are played? A ram increase is pretty unusual for a refresh. I don't recall any recent console refresh that has had more ram that the original revision.

Saint Cornelius · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:31:13 PM »

Oh great, I just cracked The Da Callendor Code.

abrader · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:52:29 PM »

The resdesign is a bit thinner....

but the redesign, the faster UMD drive and the TV out wont be making me let go of my white JP PSP any time soon.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #28 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:56:10 PM »

So more RAM means that people will be able to play games that already work on the PSP?

Shuri · « **Reply #29 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:30:31 PM »

Quote from: Saint Cornelius on July 12, 2007, 02:22:28 PM

Quote from: Shuri on July 12, 2007, 02:12:55 PM
10$ paypal for the mod or admin that will permban FoC and all his current and future acccounts.

$20 for the mod who does the same for shuri

oh you card you

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #30 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:43:36 PM »

FoC, of course. I suspect the additional RAM is being used as extra cache for the UMD to improve battery life and access speed.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #31 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:44:26 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 12, 2007, 02:29:55 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 12, 2007, 02:26:41 PM
it has double the RAM, a faster UMD drive, a new screen, new buttons, and is smaller and lighter. YOU ARE FUCK distinguished mentally-challenged. Y CAN'T TEXAN READ.

I didn't know about that. Would that affect how games are played? A ram increase is pretty unusual for a refresh. I don't recall any recent console refresh that has had more ram that the original revision.

64 MB versus 32 MB system RAM. GAF has links to multiple sources confirming.

bud · « **Reply #32 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:44:39 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 12, 2007, 02:56:10 PM

So more RAM means that people will be able to play games that already work on the PSP?

$:-\$

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #33 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:45:59 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 12, 2007, 02:07:33 PM

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The new PSP will be 33% lighter. It also will have the ability to output high-quality video, to a TV, for instance. Users will be able to connect the PSP to a bigger monitor and share their photos and videos.
Now I can play my playstation one games on my TV. It's about damn time.

You illiterate useless fuck, you are aware that the PSP is roughly equal to or better than the Dreamcast in performance, right?

demi · « **Reply #34 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:46:03 PM »

Fingers crossed for hackable! Fanjita will prevail!

Anyone want to buy a PSP? 3.40 OE-A

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #35 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:50:51 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 12, 2007, 03:45:59 PM

You illiterate useless fuck, you are aware that the PSP is roughly equal to or better than the Dreamcast in performance, right?

Comparing PSP games to PS1 games is distinguished mentally-challenged but DC games still look better than PSP, no? PSP might be more poweful than a DC but it's constrained by issues such as battery life and probably the lower budgets for portable games.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #36 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:52:46 PM »

there's not a DC out there that could wholly deliver the graphics of Daxter, Brave Story, Tekken DR, God of WarPSP, the two GTA games, or Wipeout Pure -- and that's at 222 mHz (albeit at 480x272 versus 640x480). At 333 mHz, the PSP is a mid-fi PS2. The DC is a 200mHz system clock 16MB RAM box compared to the PSP at 333mHz 32/64MB RAM. There's a fair bit of apples and oranges: the PSP seems to consistently use 16-bit color ala the GC as opposed to the DC which had many games in 32-bit color; the PSP is capable of far more effects and roughly 2x the geometry, but the DC seemed to have better texture compression. They're roughly comparable, but overall, it's DC < PSP < PS2.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #37 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:59:07 PM »

The DC's 3d fighter should look at least equivalent to TK:DR if you shrink them down to the size of a PSP screen. There are no equivalents to the other games you mentioned since the DC got such weak support. The DC racers and sport games seem to have more polygons and sharper textures in general than PSP equivalents. Is Brave Story a Japanese title? I haven't heard much about it.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #38 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:02:04 PM »

Have you played a DC game recently? The poly counts in its racing games, Lemans excluded, are REALLY low compared to most PSP racers, especially in the backgrounds. The PSP doesn't get a whole lot of really dedicated development, either.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #39 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:04:58 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 12, 2007, 04:02:04 PM

Have you played a DC game recently? The poly counts in its racing games, Lemans excluded, are REALLY low compared to most PSP racers, especially in the backgrounds. The PSP doesn't get a whole lot of really dedicated development, either.

No, I rarely play old games or systems. I'm a geek for new tech which is why backwards compatibility don't mean much to me and I constantly have to upgrade my PC. You're probably right. DC games just looked really good back then because of its weak competition.

TVC15 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:09:31 PM »

Don't forget that DC also had pretty great image quality. PS2 games looked "uglier" than DC games for quite a while because of that.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #41 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:10:33 PM »

yeah, the DC image quality is still knockout.

Mondain · « **Reply #42 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:24:21 PM »

uh, the DC's image quality isn't so great anymore because it's full of dithering, it's quite ugly when you try to watch it on an HDTV that has a VGA port

and also, 64 MB of RAM in a new system revision? but how the hell will this be taken advantage of in games? isn't like, the last PSP game ever made supposed to play without hiccups on the first PSP ever assembled?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #43 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:27:30 PM »

like I said, the additional 32 MB is probably for disk caching or improved video playback. it's a FACT that the system RAM has been increased from 32 to 64MB.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #44 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:29:10 PM »

Quote from: Mondain on July 12, 2007, 04:24:21 PM

uh, the DC's image quality isn't so great anymore because it's full of dithering, it's quite ugly when you try to watch it on an HDTV that has a VGA port

and also, 64 MB of RAM in a new system revision? but how the hell will this be taken advantage of in games? isn't like, the last PSP game ever made supposed to play without hiccups on the first PSP ever assembled?

we aren't talking about color depth -- a lot of DC games ran with 16-bit color. we're talking about overall image stability -- a lack of obvious dot crawl and visible interlacing. the output signal filter on the DC was great.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #45 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:29:54 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on July 12, 2007, 04:28:59 PM

It's for disk caching. Engadget confirmed it.

it'll definitely help battery life significantly, especially if they're going full-on 333 now.

demi · « **Reply #46 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:33:18 PM »

This new PSP should help the homebrew crowd too.

Might just have to get one, now.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #47 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:37:36 PM »

Quote from: demi on July 12, 2007, 04:33:18 PM

This new PSP should help the homebrew crowd too.

Might just have to get one, now.

I doubt that it'll be so easy to pirate on the new PSP. They probably came up with a revision in order to drive up software sales. PSP software sales are ridiculously low for such a big userbase.

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 12, 2007, 04:29:10 PM

we aren't talking about color depth -- a lot of DC games ran with 16-bit color. we're talking about overall image stability -- a lack of obvious dot crawl and visible interlacing. the output signal filter on the DC was great.

I don't know what you call it but the graphics become little blocks sometimes when certain effects are used on the PSP.

demi · « **Reply #48 on:** July 12, 2007, 04:40:24 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 12, 2007, 04:37:36 PM

Quote from: demi on July 12, 2007, 04:33:18 PM
This new PSP should help the homebrew crowd too.

Might just have to get one, now.

I doubt that it'll be so easy to pirate on the new PSP. They probably came up with a revision in order to drive up software sales. PSP software sales are ridiculously low for such a big userbase.

You are right, they should just stop and give up.

John_Carmack · « **Reply #49 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:28:25 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 12, 2007, 04:37:36 PM

Quote from: demi on July 12, 2007, 04:33:18 PM
This new PSP should help the homebrew crowd too.

Might just have to get one, now.

I doubt that it'll be so easy to pirate on the new PSP. They probably came up with a revision in order to drive up software sales. PSP software sales are ridiculously low for such a big userbase.

It comes with 3.6 fm

saw it on a preview video via youtube

Ichirou · « **Reply #50 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:02:39 PM »

The revision is most of what I expected it to have, I just hoped the case would look significantly different from the old PSP. It just looks like the PSP went on a diet.

I'll stick with my white PSP for now.

Himu · « **Reply #51 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:16:53 PM »

Lamer. It's got a better battery and shit. I'm gonna get it.

Ichirou · « **Reply #52 on:** July 12, 2007, 08:31:45 PM »

I want to know exactly how much the battery life has been extended. They already sell better batteries for the PSP that give you 20% more play time.

bork · « **Reply #53 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:12:48 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 12, 2007, 08:31:45 PM

I want to know exactly how much the battery life has been extended. They already sell better batteries for the PSP that give you 20% more play time.

Since you can also use the system's onboard memory to load parts of UMD games, there loading times will be faster AND will not be as much of a strain on the battery, therefore lasting longer.

Slightly smaller+better buttons+longer battery life+faster loading+MUTHA FUCKING TV OUT YEAH = Bought, bought, and BOUGHT. My hacked PSP isn't going anywhere though, not unless someone finds a way to hack this new model.

Ichirou · « **Reply #54 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:16:20 AM »

Again, I would like an exact figure as to how much the battery life is being extended by all these measures. If it's something substantial like, say, another five hours, then I could definitely be persuaded to upgrade.

bork · « **Reply #55 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:18:03 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 13, 2007, 03:16:20 AM

Again, I would like an exact figure as to how much the battery life is being extended by all these measures. If it's something substantial like, say, another five hours, then I could definitely be persuaded to upgrade.

If anyone knew that, it would have been said already. I highly doubt it will be extended by five hours. For me the main selling point is the TV out.

Ichirou · « **Reply #56 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:24:26 AM »

19% slimmer...when you think about it, the difference in size is not, like, hugely big. I bet it feels a heckuva lot lighter, though - 33%! But I still think they should have done a bit more of a redesign just to get people's attention a bit more.

bork · « **Reply #57 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:26:22 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on July 13, 2007, 03:24:26 AM

19% slimmer...when you think about it, the difference in size is not, like, hugely big. I bet it feels a heckuva lot lighter, though - 33%! But I still think they should have done a bit more of a redesign just to get people's attention a bit more.

Oh, definitely. It's stupid that they didn't even attempt to change anything up. I would have at least liked to have a seen a clamshell-style design, but it's no big deal to buy on those clamshell-style folding screen covers anyway.

Ichirou · « **Reply #58 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:27:23 AM »

There was a LE Sakura Taisen folding screen cover when the PSP version of 1&2 came out, but it sold out and I've been unable to find it anywhere. :'(

bork · « **Reply #59 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:29:02 AM »

That kind of thing always disappears. I've never seen the DOA Xtreme 2 Kasumi 360 faceplate, either.

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