Author Topic: Blizz admits where all their talent went and makes copycat wow expansion (Read 5984 times)

etiolate · « **on:** August 04, 2007, 07:24:52 PM »

Wraith of the Eye of the North it seems

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/896/896299/vids_1.html
Eye of the North trailer

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/
Wraith

The burning wood area is just a straight copy, only less pretty. Northrend = Shiverspeaks. Maybe they'll be smart enough to copy the gameplay, too.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2007, 07:32:57 PM »

Will it take you 200 hours to decide you dont like the expansion?

bud · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2007, 07:33:31 PM »

mmorpg's, lol.

TVC15 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2007, 07:41:17 PM »

Guild Wars is terrible. And boring.

bork · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2007, 10:54:38 PM »

Quote from: bud on August 04, 2007, 07:33:31 PM

mmorpg's, lol.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #5 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:36:44 AM »

oh ffs

"copycat"? do you know when Frozen Throne came out? do you even understand the concept of linear time?

you are dumb and stupid.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2007, 01:41:02 AM »

in guild wars, we are simultaneously present in all permutations of the same boring instance

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2007, 02:23:29 AM »

TVC are you still playing LOTRO a lot, and do you know if the other GAFfers who were hella excited about the game (IE Amir0x) are still playing?

Most of these additions don't seem to effect me. I like the idea of a guild bank tho woohoo. I'm still playing solely as Goinio, although once I gain one more level (to 55) I'll start a new character: female Draeni paladin

etiolate · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2007, 06:40:21 PM »

They're also thinking of implementing GvG and someone actually asked if the siege weapons would be like GW int he panel. lawl

cubicle47b · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2007, 07:50:52 PM »

Yeah, the entire game is basically Guild Wars now. I can't believe how much they ripped off of the quest, dungeon, and raid design in Guild Wars. I mean come on.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #10 on:** August 05, 2007, 07:52:21 PM »

Oh etoilet, ever the moron

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #11 on:** August 05, 2007, 08:04:12 PM »

there should be some cool new game systems implemented once Flagship finally ships Hellgate, too

etiolate · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2007, 09:29:36 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on August 05, 2007, 07:52:21 PM

Oh etoilet, ever the correct

fixed

etiolate · « **Reply #13 on:** August 05, 2007, 09:30:53 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 05, 2007, 02:23:29 AM

TVC are you still playing LOTRO a lot, and do you know if the other GAFfers who were hella excited about the game (IE Amir0x) are still playing?

Most of these additions don't seem to effect me. I like the idea of a guild bank tho woohoo. I'm still playing solely as Goinio, although once I gain one more level (to 55) I'll start a new character: female Draeni paladin

You only need to worry about their eventual overnerfing of Warriors since the game is currently imbalanced due to their overboosting of Warriors. which is mostly because of gear and one skill, but they probably won't change those things and do it in some bizzaro way.

etiolate · « **Reply #14 on:** August 05, 2007, 09:31:49 PM »

Quote from: cubicle47b on August 05, 2007, 07:50:52 PM

Yeah, the entire game is basically Guild Wars now. I can't believe how much they ripped off of the quest, dungeon, and raid design in Guild Wars. I mean come on.

I wish they did. The quests suck. =|

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #15 on:** August 05, 2007, 10:09:21 PM »

200 hours

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16 on:** August 05, 2007, 10:49:12 PM »

Screw you guyz I'm gonna play WOW NOW

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #17 on:** August 05, 2007, 10:52:07 PM »

IK POLAYIN WOW BG NOW
'

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2007, 02:15:17 AM »

WHUT LV RACE

LV 54 DWARF WARRIOR

I'd post my armory thingy but strangely it's not updated. Last night I got this:
http://thottbot.com/i11812

And then had it enchanted +120 armor

etiolate · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:08:09 AM »

I will save up the early outland warrior greens I get for Goinio.

True story: guildie got 14k honor on saturday with 0 HKs from AV.

etiolate · « **Reply #20 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:10:46 AM »

Link yer armory PD

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Emptybox

Candyflip · « **Reply #21 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:17:31 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on August 06, 2007, 04:10:46 AM

Link yer armory PD

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Emptybox

Dude, I didn't know you played WoW. I thought I was the only addict on EB.
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Marvelous

Hoping we finally down Hydross this week. Had Lurker down for a month, and since then our guild has kind of gone to shit. We need a World of Warcraft thread. I guess this will do.

etiolate · « **Reply #22 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:33:45 AM »

We'll be trying Lurker next week I think. Right now we do Kara, Void Reaver, Gruul and Mag, trying to add SSC. Theres tons of WoW players on EB, that is why my GW love gets so much hate. PD made a big wow thread, it just hasn't been updated.

Candyflip · « **Reply #23 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:36:24 AM »

Well hell. Lurker is pretty easy, if you can do Void you should be able to have him down in a few attempts. Just have to get people to avoid the spouts and get used to the transitions from boss to adds.

TVC15 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:44:23 AM »

I think your GW love gets so much hate because it is a terrible game, etoilet. I'm not a big WoW fan, but I am a big fan of Diablo-esque games. Guild Wars is totally boring. Mythos and Hellgate steal its one interesting concept and build good, interesting games around it. Hopefully Guild Wars 2 is a less boring outing.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #25 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:57:24 AM »

Etoilet is just devoid of reason. I spent some money on Guild Wars and managed to decided I hated it in well under 100 hours etoilet. Beat that am I rite lol. 200 hours

bud · « **Reply #26 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:58:44 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on August 04, 2007, 10:54:38 PM

Quote from: bud on August 04, 2007, 07:33:31 PM
mmorpg's, lol.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #27 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:25:29 PM »

wait, etiolate is STILL playing WoW? and doing 25-man raids of Serpentshrine Cavern?

is he hopeful that the game improves at hour 300?

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:41:13 PM »

My wife, a very casual WoW player, really likes that the expansion has a strong emphasis towards leveling and having a cool new alt to work towards. She has had just enough time since Burning Crusade to level one character to 70, do some lightweight dungeon stuff, and play around with an alt or two.

She, like I, burnt out on the hardcore endgame some time ago (during Naxx) and isn't too eager to return to raid scheduling and high-end guild bullshittery.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:46:02 PM »

Ive never run a raid, its awesome just solo-ing when I have time.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #30 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:51:55 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on August 06, 2007, 12:46:02 PM

Ive never run a raid, its awesome just solo-ing when I have time.

Yeah, it really is awesome for that. I'm pretty much done with the game for good-two level 60s back before BC were enough for me-but leveling was really fun.

I don't trust myself with these kinds of games anymore, and instead choose to go the route of the crazy bearded man PC gamer instead. Slightly more sunlight, and a good bit more variety in my gaming diet.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #31 on:** August 06, 2007, 12:56:07 PM »

Ive got a mage I battleground a lot with. I love WSG, learning to love AB

cubicle47b · « **Reply #32 on:** August 06, 2007, 01:10:46 PM »

Quote

I don't trust myself with these kinds of games anymore

Neither do I. I swear after WoW I'll never play another MMO. Please god let this be true.

A week ago our guild leader/main tank finally decided he'd had enough after close to 2 years of playing without a break and on the same day the raid leader's gaming computer broke. I thought we were done (attendance had been an issue for a week or two) but other people have stepped up and we cleared everything this week and started serious Vashj attempts last night. I think we'll hit phase 3 tonight.

Armory: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kael'thas&n=Esmi

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2007, 01:33:46 PM »

Armory:
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

I got this last night and had it enchanted +120 armor. Armory hasn't updated for some reason
http://thottbot.com/i11812

cubicle47b · « **Reply #34 on:** August 06, 2007, 01:41:06 PM »

You need to hit level 58 and get in the Outlands, PD.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #35 on:** August 06, 2007, 01:45:18 PM »

I should have been lv58 at least by now, but computer problems and my Harry Potter exile caused me to miss many weeks. Hopefully tonight I'll find a good group to do Blackrock Depths with

And I need a new chest piece lol

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #36 on:** August 06, 2007, 02:59:48 PM »

My warrior is stuck at 38 while I play a mage. I have a level 61 warlock and 60 rogue. I lub fire spec mage. F' the fireball nuke, I like me some scorch w/impact/ignore/improved scorch followed by dem fire blasts and a high crit chance and mana buyback from the other talents.

etiolate · « **Reply #37 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:21:03 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 06, 2007, 05:44:23 AM

I think your GW love gets so much hate because it is a terrible game, etoilet. I'm not a big WoW fan, but I am a big fan of Diablo-esque games. Guild Wars is totally boring. Mythos and Hellgate steal its one interesting concept and build good, interesting games around it. Hopefully Guild Wars 2 is a less boring outing.

GW is closer to PSO than it is diablo, but overall it's has a style of it's own. It's built around player skill, and skill selection. The looting/gear aspect is completely removed and makes it quite different than most diablo clones.

etiolate · « **Reply #38 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:23:19 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 06, 2007, 12:25:29 PM

wait, etiolate is STILL playing WoW? and doing 25-man raids of Serpentshrine Cavern?

is he hopeful that the game improves at hour 300?

Any online game is centered around the community, and I currently know a lot more people on WoW than I do GW. If my guild didn't end up pretty much adopting all the people I liked, I would have stayed inactive.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #39 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:24:55 PM »

Guild Wars is actually built around marketing working hard to convince gamers that the game is "built around skill," not actual skill.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #40 on:** August 06, 2007, 04:42:14 PM »

$39.99 extra (per version) and you can be just as skilled as everyone else!

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #41 on:** August 06, 2007, 05:49:03 PM »

lol etoilet, you want a REAL guild try EVE Online. GW guilds am just pretenders total.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #42 on:** August 06, 2007, 06:20:38 PM »

http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/06/what-we-learned-from-blizzcon/

-Northrend
* Will not be all snow and ice
* Has been planned since before WoW was released

Of course e-toilet will discount this as VICIOUS BLIZZARD PROPAGANDA because everyone knows Blizz developers sit around all day trying to figure out which parts of Guild Wars to rip off first and which parts to save for the next expansion.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2007, 06:50:35 PM »

Cuz blizzard am talentless hacks lol etoilet

etiolate · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:01:55 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 06, 2007, 06:20:38 PM

http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/06/what-we-learned-from-blizzcon/

-Northrend
* Will not be all snow and ice
* Has been planned since before WoW was released

Of course e-toilet will discount this as VICIOUS BLIZZARD PROPAGANDA because everyone knows Blizz developers sit around all day trying to figure out which parts of Guild Wars to rip off first and which parts to save for the next expansion.

That has nothing to do with them aping the visual look of it from Eye of the North. You can have an icey world in two games and have them look quite different in spite of the ice. The one possibility is that this was planned while the ANet people were still with Blizz and they got to it first, so Blizz maybe was like "fuck that we'll do it too". They could have given it their own style though, instead of looking so close.

And they SHOULD be copying GW instead of modeling after EQ.

etiolate · « **Reply #45 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:03:36 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on August 06, 2007, 05:49:03 PM

lol etoilet, you want a REAL guild try EVE Online. GW guilds am just pretenders total.

I was talking about my WoW guild. My GW guild dispersed long ago, and GW guilds don't last that long as people remake them for the purpose of ranking and test builds.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #46 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:18:24 PM »

I wonder if Blizzard could have possibly been working on WotLK before Eye of the North was revealed?

No, probably not. Everything they showed at Blizzcon they put together in the last 6 weeks. That makes a lot more sense.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #47 on:** August 06, 2007, 07:27:45 PM »

Thats how the biz at bliz works my friend!

TVC15 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 06, 2007, 08:47:49 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 06, 2007, 07:18:24 PM

I wonder if Blizzard could have possibly been working on WotLK before Eye of the North was revealed?

No, probably not. Everything they showed at Blizzcon they put together in the last 6 weeks. That makes a lot more sense.

We all know that Blizzard is notorious for quickly cranking out content.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #49 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:08:51 PM »

this thread is the best running gag ever

etiolate · « **Reply #50 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:31:23 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on August 06, 2007, 07:18:24 PM

I wonder if Blizzard could have possibly been working on WotLK before Eye of the North was revealed?

No, probably not. Everything they showed at Blizzcon they put together in the last 6 weeks. That makes a lot more sense.

Hrm. Chronologically, WoW came out before GW. Both had frozen icey mountain areas, but they looked different. Dum Morogh and Shiverspeak Mountains are rather different, as Winterspring is different from Shiverspeak and the expanded ice area, but AFTER GW, Northrend is not like the usual WoW styled ice areas and instead apes the GW style and you want to go how far to say it is a coincidence? =D

You see it doesn't really matter that they were working on it before EotN was revealed, as EotN is an expansion of existing areas. It's just how the two trailers have nearly the same exact scenes that makes it hard to ignore.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #51 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:32:10 PM »

oh eTOILET. your reasoning abilities are worthless.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #52 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:36:14 PM »

I think this thread has reached

-dary status

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #53 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:38:27 PM »

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #54 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:39:22 PM »

Northrend: a continent where APES evolved from MEN?!

etiolate · « **Reply #55 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:46:12 PM »

I like how I always win because I actually played both games, which oddly enough is the basis of the attempted mocking.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #56 on:** August 06, 2007, 09:47:15 PM »

I played both too, im just smart enough to not require 200 hours to figure out how I feel about them. I think the dumbest thing about Guild Wars is how you get stat losses when you die. How can you possibly ever overcome something you couldnt beat the first time with a steadily increasing stat reduction.

DUMB IDEA. 80 gajillion skills that are all the same lol.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #57 on:** August 06, 2007, 10:19:22 PM »

UPDATED
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Goinio

Got to lv55 today, and I also got a great chestpiece. Now I'll start looking for an upgrade for my mits

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