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MrAngryFace

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Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« on: September 11, 2007, 11:43:08 AM »
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But pesky pretenders to the Viper’s throne won’t stay down, which prompted an upgrade to 8.3 liters and 500 horsepower in 2004 and now, for 2008, 8.4 liters and an astounding 600 horsepower.

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Cross-town rival General Motors already offers 500 horses in the Chevrolet Corvette and is rumored to be readying a 750-horsepower, supercharged reply to the Viper. That is the territory of NASCAR Nextel Cup, Indy Car and Formula One racers.


Most people on the road cant handle their 500 horsepower BMWs.
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bagofeyes

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 11:47:11 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 02:18:30 PM »
yes  that is a ridiculous amount of power.  those cars should not be for casual rich people without extra restrictions.

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 02:32:05 PM »
most people on the road don't have 500hp BMWs  it's not a big enough problem for any action to be taken
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 02:36:57 PM »
they might not have 500hp bmw's, but there is a large group of people that put an extraordinary amount of aftermarket parts on their vehicle.  Most of these vehicle are extremely unsafe.

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 04:49:04 PM »
they might not have 500hp bmw's, but there is a large group of people that put an extraordinary amount of aftermarket parts on their vehicle.  Most of these vehicle are extremely unsafe.

There are smog laws and DMV inspections.  Cars really aren't inspected frequently enough though.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 04:54:56 PM »
they might not have 500hp bmw's, but there is a large group of people that put an extraordinary amount of aftermarket parts on their vehicle.  Most of these vehicle are extremely unsafe.

There are smog laws and DMV inspections.  Cars really aren't inspected frequently enough though.
they really aren't.  dmv inspections don't care if you have the right suspension to support a 500hp engine.  Or they don't care if you have the right brakes to stop a car going 160mph in a decent amount of time.

MrAngryFace

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 06:52:07 PM »
Lots of people in Seattle have 500hp cars!
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Smooth Groove

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 06:55:51 PM »
I think higher license requirements and safety inspections make sense.  Many Ferrari owners get into accidents even though Ferraris have world class handling.   Other people shouldn't have to risk their lives because owners of high end sports cars can't control their cars. 

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2007, 08:01:52 PM »
they might not have 500hp bmw's, but there is a large group of people that put an extraordinary amount of aftermarket parts on their vehicle.  Most of these vehicle are extremely unsafe.
well if the smog is bad enough that black exhaust comes out then a cop will pull you over.  but aftermarket parts have to be legal.  and how many cars bigger than civics do you know of that have a shitload of aftermarket performance boosting parts?

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 12:50:07 AM »
do you understand that the size of the vehicle has little to do with the power? 

Smooth Groove

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 12:56:44 AM »
The worst thing about high performance cars today is that many of them come with paddle-shift manual transmissions, which allow auto-only drivers to go crazy.  Everyone knows that you don't really know how to drive unless you've mastered toe&heel + shifting w/a stick. 
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brawndolicious

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 02:05:32 AM »
do you understand that the size of the vehicle has little to do with the power? 
Smaller the car the less the HP usually since you don't need as much to push it and the engine would be too big for it.  I used civics as an example since they're the typical ricer car that has a shitload of aftermarket parts and that can go fast.  because there's a huge market for modifying civics, it gets a lot more parts than a BMW.  how do you limit how fast a car can be?  one canadian province will destroy any car using aftermarket parts but I think that's idiotic when something like a subaru wrx sti is faster than a subaru wrx but if you add an air intake you're car gets scrapped.

I think the best idea is special licenses for adding aftermarket parts (knowing how cars will react after you put on the part) and another license to know how to drive a car with performance boosting parts.

MrAngryFace

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 02:15:42 AM »
I just dont think stupid twats that cant drive should get 500+ hp cars
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 02:20:42 AM »
Is driving a muscle car that much more dangerous if you're sticking with the speed limit?

If those things are harder to handle than a normal car at 60mph for whatever reason, then I can see a special license or extra regulations.  But if the problem is that people are losing control at 130mph, then it would be like saying "We need you to prove that you can break the law safely."

MrAngryFace

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2007, 02:22:53 AM »
haha sticking to the speed limit...haha. People who dont buy muscle cars dont buy them to obey the speed limit
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2007, 02:29:29 AM »
Dur.  But you can't really require people to have a license to do something that's illegal in the first place.  Even if it had practical purposes, no MVA is going to want to validate these guys in their speeding.

Smooth Groove

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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2007, 02:32:38 AM »
It's not just going fast though.  Many assholes w/ sports cars use their great accelerations to cut in front of people at dangerously short distances. 

MrAngryFace

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2007, 02:34:33 AM »
EVERYONE SHOULD BE FORCED TO DRIVE HYBRIDS AND STOP FUCKING UP TRAFFIC I AM GETTING OLD AND THESE ARE THE VALUES I PROMOTE
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Smooth Groove

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2007, 02:36:54 AM »
EVERYONE SHOULD BE FORCED TO DRIVE HYBRIDS AND STOP FUCKING UP TRAFFIC I AM GETTING OLD AND THESE ARE THE VALUES I PROMOTE

GTFO

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MrAngryFace

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2007, 02:37:53 AM »
QUIT KILLING TEH ICEBURGS
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Smooth Groove

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2007, 02:40:44 AM »
Shut up, hippie.  I trust our President on this issue.  Don't you dare hate on our country today. 

MrAngryFace

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2007, 03:00:17 AM »
YEAH CAUSE HES SO SMART F U
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Smooth Groove

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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2007, 03:04:03 AM »
I've reported your post to Homeland Security.  Enjoy your interrogation, hippie. 

MrAngryFace

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2007, 03:09:47 AM »
I WAS DEFNEDING HIM IF THEY ASK
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Mupepe

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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2007, 10:28:41 AM »
do you understand that the size of the vehicle has little to do with the power? 
Smaller the car the less the HP usually since you don't need as much to push it and the engine would be too big for it.  I used civics as an example since they're the typical ricer car that has a shitload of aftermarket parts and that can go fast.  because there's a huge market for modifying civics, it gets a lot more parts than a BMW.  how do you limit how fast a car can be?  one canadian province will destroy any car using aftermarket parts but I think that's idiotic when something like a subaru wrx sti is faster than a subaru wrx but if you add an air intake you're car gets scrapped.

I think the best idea is special licenses for adding aftermarket parts (knowing how cars will react after you put on the part) and another license to know how to drive a car with performance boosting parts.
no one is talking about making parts illegal or destroying vehicles.  quit taking it out of context.  the idea that we are discussing is exactly what you suggested!  People should be properly educated and certified in how to handle their vehicles.

anyways, the fact that the little rice burners you are referring to are smaller and don't need as much pull is exactly my point.  Those cars don't need 500hp to be dangerous or to be powerful.  It's all relative when it comes to vehicles.  It is dangerous, regardless of the size of the block.  To say otherwise is either naive or shows how little you know about street racing. 

Wait til you see a 16 year old kid with a 10 second car and NOS.  does ANYONE think that is a good idea?
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MrAngryFace

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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2007, 10:59:02 AM »
BOBOBO PLACES TO GO
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brawndolicious

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Re: Should higher horsepower cars require a difference license?
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2007, 03:26:44 PM »
I'm just saying it's not right to say the 500 HP BMW is unsafe.  I'm much more afraid of 16 year olds in civics with unnecessary spoilers.

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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2007, 03:40:06 PM »
I say that we should all drive hummers and burn plastic.

Use lots of hairspray, because your hair is most important here. Fuck the icebergs.

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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2007, 03:41:08 PM »
Dur.  But you can't really require people to have a license to do something that's illegal in the first place.  Even if it had practical purposes, no MVA is going to want to validate these guys in their speeding.
This post made me think of this: http://www.whatdoiknow.org/archives/000897.shtml
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2007, 10:28:01 AM »
I understand where most people are coming from, but it wouldn't make a difference. We have licensed drivers now that drive like idiots. Why would this be any different?

Just look at that Hogan kid. Seems as if he gets into a couple of accidents every year. He's supposed to be a professional drifter with an F1 license.