FoC's Ron Paul Shitheap: Patel Melts the Internets starting on pg. 24

[FlameOfCallandor]

FoC, why do you want people to die in the name of the free market? Seriously. Health care is good! People shouldn't die because they're poor. Or do you think they should?

I have health care. and GASP its not through the government!

[Howard Alan Treesong]

FoC, why do you want people to die in the name of the free market? Seriously. Health care is good! People shouldn't die because they're poor. Or do you think they should?

I have health care. and GASP its not through the government!

So since you have health care, it's cool if the poor people die? Why should your socioeconomic status determine the quality of health care you receive? Can you really say that a rich person's life is more important than a poor person's life?

[FlameOfCallandor]

So since you have health care, it's cool if the poor people die? Why should your socioeconomic status determine the quality of health care you receive? Can you really say that a rich person's life is more important than a poor person's life?

If you feel so strongly about it why dont you go psy for some poor persons health care? Why should I pay for shit Im not gonna use?

[Human Snorenado]

FoC, why do you want people to die in the name of the free market? Seriously. Health care is good! People shouldn't die because they're poor. Or do you think they should?

I have health care. and GASP its not through the government!

Parents pay for that, huh?

[Fragamemnon]

FoC, why do you want people to die in the name of the free market? Seriously. Health care is good! People shouldn't die because they're poor. Or do you think they should?

It's their fault for not having health care, of course. It's always their fault. Blaming people for their situations-regardless of how they got into them-is the cornerstone of modern conservative thought. Well, besides the obvious 'fuck you, it's mine' lemma that is the foundation for most of their terrible policy proposals.

Once Hillary wins the nomination, she should let everyone know which five Republican senators will be beheaded first (Aztec Ball Court style) should she be elected. Just a little bit of red meat to the faithful can't hurt!

[Human Snorenado]

So since you have health care, it's cool if the poor people die? Why should your socioeconomic status determine the quality of health care you receive? Can you really say that a rich person's life is more important than a poor person's life?

If you feel so strongly about it why dont you go psy for some poor persons health care? Why should I pay for shit Im not gonna use?

You really are fucking dumb, aren't you?  I'm pretty sure I speak for nearly all of us that are continually mocking you when I say we would be happy to finance public health care through our taxes, you mouth breathing shitburger.

[FlameOfCallandor]

FoC, why do you want people to die in the name of the free market?

it's not that it's not their fault. It's just not my responsibility

[Howard Alan Treesong]

So since you have health care, it's cool if the poor people die? Why should your socioeconomic status determine the quality of health care you receive? Can you really say that a rich person's life is more important than a poor person's life?

If you feel so strongly about it why dont you go psy for some poor persons health care? Why should I pay for shit Im not gonna use?

I will. Through taxes. To a national health care system.

So you're okay with letting poor people die in order to save a few bucks on your 1099?

[FlameOfCallandor]

You really are fucking dumb, aren't you?  I'm pretty sure I speak for nearly all of us that are continually mocking you when I say we would be happy to finance public health care through our taxes, you mouth breathing shitburger.

How much money do you donate to red cross? What about other non profit organizations? Probably none, because you a re a dirt poor mother fucker. 

[Fragamemnon]

So since you have health care, it's cool if the poor people die? Why should your socioeconomic status determine the quality of health care you receive? Can you really say that a rich person's life is more important than a poor person's life?

If you feel so strongly about it why dont you go psy for some poor persons health care? Why should I pay for shit Im not gonna use?

I will. Through taxes. To a national health care system.

So you're okay with letting poor people die in order to save a few bucks on your 1099?

Ron Paul 2008-Fuck You Poors, It's All Mine! . Seriously, I need signs made asap.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

You really are fucking dumb, aren't you?  I'm pretty sure I speak for nearly all of us that are continually mocking you when I say we would be happy to finance public health care through our taxes, you mouth breathing shitburger.

How much money do you donate to red cross? What about other non profit organizations? Probably none, because you a re a dirt poor mother fucker. 

And as a "dirt poor motherfucker," does he not deserve (in your eyes) the same quality of health care as someone who works for Goldman Sachs? You should get the quality of health care you can afford, and none if you can't afford any? That's your belief?

[FlameOfCallandor]

I will. Through taxes. To a national health care system.

Why not start now? You can donate to non profit organizations that are more transparent and alot better than anything the government does.

So you're okay with letting poor people die in order to save a few bucks on your 1099?

People are going to die weather people pay taxes or not. Thats a fact.

[FlameOfCallandor]

And as a "dirt poor motherfucker," does he not deserve (in your eyes) the same quality of health care as someone who works for Goldman Sachs? You should get the quality of health care you can afford, and none if you can't afford any? That's your belief?

He deserves it as long as someone else who doesn't want to doesn't have to pay for him.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Patel, under your reasoning poor people who get paid $7/ hour are not worth as much as a lawyer who gets paid $100/hour. Isn't  a poor persons time worth just as much. I mean we are all human. My teacher told me we are all special and we are all winners. We should all get paid the same amount no matter what we do.

[Human Snorenado]

You really are fucking dumb, aren't you?  I'm pretty sure I speak for nearly all of us that are continually mocking you when I say we would be happy to finance public health care through our taxes, you mouth breathing shitburger.

How much money do you donate to red cross? What about other non profit organizations? Probably none, because you a re a dirt poor mother fucker. 

Sigh... Last year I donated about $800 to various charitable organizations, in addition to volunteering for Habitat for Humanity, the Red Cross and the local soup kitchen around Thanksgiving.  I gave more in 2005 due to Katrina and pretty much lived at the local Red Cross to help relocate people.

Again, you really don't know shit about me.  You, however, are pretty easy to figure out.  Sloped forehead, protruding jaw, dim light in your eyes... you are homo texian, an unfortunate offshoot of humanity that will be amongst the first up against the wall when the Revolution comes.  Rest assured.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Ron Paul 2008-Fuck You Poors, It's All Mine! . Seriously, I need signs made asap.

It's yours if you earn it. Why wouldn't it be?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Sigh... Last year I donated about $800 to various charitable organizations, in addition to volunteering for Habitat for Humanity, the Red Cross and the local soup kitchen around Thanksgiving.  I gave more in 2005 due to Katrina and pretty much lived at the local Red Cross to help relocate people.

Awesome so you know that these programs are far better than anything the government could do. Look at Fema, thats  what our healthcare system would be like.  Is that what you want?

[Gay Boy]

why would a country where the majority want a govt. funded universal health care system vote for ron paul?

Because thats not the role of the federal government. If you want it so bad, why not try to encourage your state to get it.

You may say that but the majority of the country wants that. And our country is ruled by a majority rule stance.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

People are going to die whether people pay taxes or not. Thats a fact.

So you're okay with people dying if they don't have health care because they would have died eventually anyways?

[FlameOfCallandor]

an unfortunate offshoot of humanity that will be amongst the first up against the wall when the Revolution comes.  Rest assured.

When is the revolution of pot-smoking-sloths-that-cant-hold-a-job coming? right after the midnight munchies?   

[FlameOfCallandor]

People are going to die whether people pay taxes or not. Thats a fact.

So you're okay with people dying if they don't have health care because they would have died eventually anyways?

Did i say that?

[FlameOfCallandor]

You may say that but the majority of the country wants that.

Link

And our country is ruled by a majority rule stance.

Not true.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

People are going to die whether people pay taxes or not. Thats a fact.

So you're okay with people dying if they don't have health care because they would have died eventually anyways?

Did i say that?

You said "People are going to die weather [sic] people pay taxes or not. Thats a fact."

This is true, as no system is infalliable; however, I think we can take it as a given that fewer people will die if we pay taxes to improve health care services for all citizens than if we do not fund those programs at all.

So by refusing to support equal health care rights for all Americans, you are effectively condemning a greater percentage of the poorer ones to death. In the name of financial selfishness.

[Gay Boy]

FoC explain if universal health care is so wrong....

Why is over 60% of the country willing to pay for it in tax dollars?

[Human Snorenado]

Sigh... Last year I donated about $800 to various charitable organizations, in addition to volunteering for Habitat for Humanity, the Red Cross and the local soup kitchen around Thanksgiving.  I gave more in 2005 due to Katrina and pretty much lived at the local Red Cross to help relocate people.

Awesome so you know that these programs are far better than anything the government could do. Look at Fema, thats  what our healthcare system would be like.  Is that what you want?

I know that these programs are poorly financed NOW to the extent that they can't possibly help everyone in need.  And this is when people get a tax break for donating to these organizations... what happens when there is no incentive to do so any longer because OMG NO MORE TAXES!!!

[Gay Boy]

You want some polls?

EXPLAIN THIS:
"Do you think it's the government's responsibility to make sure that everyone in the United States has adequate health care, or don't you think so?"
Think It Is: 57%
Don't Think So: 38%


Only 38% of the country agrees with you FoC! Explain this result, do it.

[FlameOfCallandor]

tem is infalliable; however, I think we can take it as a given that fewer people will die if we pay taxes to improve health care services for all citizens than if we do not fund those programs at all.

So the role of government is to have as few deaths as possible? Thats news to me.

So by refusing to support equal health care rights for all Americans, you are effectively condemning a greater percentage of the poorer ones to death.

I'm not condemning anyone, they can get health care just as easily as I can. There is no law that says only X people can get health care.

[FlameOfCallandor]

You want some polls?

EXPLAIN THIS:
"Do you think it's the government's responsibility to make sure that everyone in the United States has adequate health care, or don't you think so?"
Think It Is: 57%
Don't Think So: 38%


Only 38% of the country agrees with you FoC! Explain this result, do it.

What is that 4th period government class. Post some links distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

[Gay Boy]

A national poll fucktard.


http://pollingreport.com/health3.htm

AMERICA.
WANTS.
GOVT.
PROVIDED.
HEALTH.
CARE.

Can you understand that? It doesn't matter if you think its not the job of the government. The PEOPLE say it is!

[FlameOfCallandor]

I know that these programs are poorly financed NOW to the extent that they can't possibly help everyone in need.  And this is when people get a tax break for donating to these organizations... what happens when there is no incentive to do so any longer because OMG NO MORE TAXES!!!

The incentive is the willingness of people to help. If thats not there then you should be wondering why no one has the willingness to help.

[Gay Boy]

Polls from that page say Americans feel paying for the uninsured is more important than keeping costs down. Poor ron paul, America doesn't want a small government like him!

[FlameOfCallandor]

Only 38% of the country agrees with you FoC! Explain this result, do it.

They don't understand that government inst supposed to be Robin Hood.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Polls from that page say Americans feel paying for the uninsured is more important than keeping costs down. Poor ron paul, America doesn't want a small government like him!

If america wants it so bad then why dont we have it?   

[Gay Boy]

Only 38% of the country agrees with you FoC! Explain this result, do it.

They don't understand that government inst supposed to be Robin Hood.

Who says? America says its the govt's job. So therefore it is. The people decide, not you and ron paul.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Throwing money at the problem isn't going to make it go away. It's not like all the poor people are going to magically disappear if we get universal health care.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Only 38% of the country agrees with you FoC! Explain this result, do it.

They don't understand that government inst supposed to be Robin Hood.

Who says? America says its the govt's job. So therefore it is. The people decide, not you and ron paul.

Actually the people dont decide the rule of law. There is a little document, you might have heard of the constitution. It's the supreme law. You can just wish that it didnt exist.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

It's not like all the poor people are going to magically disappear if we get universal health care.

But they will magically disappear as long as we keep denying it to them!

[Gay Boy]

I didn't know the constitution said we couldn't have govt. health care!

[FlameOfCallandor]

I didn't know the constitution said we couldn't have govt. health care!

It didnt say we couldnt. But it doesnt give the power to legislate that. You would need to amend the constitution. Good luck with that.

[FlameOfCallandor]

It's not like all the poor people are going to magically disappear if we get universal health care.

But they will magically disappear as long as we keep denying it to them!

What?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Ron Paul is a "strict anti-Constitutionalist." Anything not mentioned in the Constitution is explicitly forbidden!

[Gay Boy]

I didn't know the constitution said we couldn't have govt. health care!

It didnt say we couldnt. But it doesnt give the power to legislate that. You would need to amend the constitution. Good luck with that.

then why is it ok for candidates to promise it and attempt to get it passed? It is legally allowed to exist if it indeed passes congress and it very well can if a dem is elected since the demand for govt. health care is at a all time high.

No one will stop them and say its illegal. If it passes we will get it. End of story.

And FoC, is civil rights for minorities granted in the constitution? It wasn't an amendment. It was a bill in congress! Is that illegal too?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Ron Paul is a "strict anti-Constitutionalist." Anything not mentioned in the Constitution is explicitly forbidden!

Do you know what an amendment is? 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

How could a government health care system possibly be worse than my current HMO? That's what I wanna know!

Do you know what an amendment is? 

So you believe that Congress cannot pass any laws except by amending the Constitution?

[FlameOfCallandor]

No one will stop them and say its illegal. If it passes we will get it. End of story.

  You don't know anything.
what do you think courts do all day? Sit on their asses?

[Gay Boy]

Ron Paul is a "strict anti-Constitutionalist." Anything not mentioned in the Constitution is explicitly forbidden!

Do you know what an amendment is? 

you dont have to have a fucking amendment for every little thing. We have bills in congress for a reason. Civil rights was not in constitution for minorities. We didn't have an amendment for it, yet we got it through a bill...IN CONGRES

[Howard Alan Treesong]

No one will stop them and say its illegal. If it passes we will get it. End of story.

  You don't know anything.
what do you think courts do all day? Sit on their asses?

Of course not, courts are busy passing verdicts for Ron Paul to ignore.

[Gay Boy]

No one will stop them and say its illegal. If it passes we will get it. End of story.

  You don't know anything.
what do you think courts do all day? Sit on their asses?

the courts will not over-turn it. The republicans aren't saying its ILLEGAL. They are saying it would be bad. No one but ron paul freaks are going around declaring it illegal.

[FlameOfCallandor]

How could a government health care system possibly be worse than my current HMO? That's what I wanna know!

That's not the point. im not arguing whether it would be better or worse. I'm arguing that it's not the role of government to take care of us cradle to grave.


My opinion is that the current HMO shit is terrible. No one is going to argue you on that.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Ron Paul is a "strict anti-Constitutionalist." Anything not mentioned in the Constitution is explicitly forbidden!

Do you know what an amendment is? 

you dont have to have a fucking amendment for every little thing. We have bills in congress for a reason. Civil rights was not in constitution for minorities. We didn't have an amendment for it, yet we got it through a bill...IN CONGRES

psst...Cheebs...we did have an amendment for it...

(the bill did most of the heavy lifting however)

[Gay Boy]

The point remains when it was passed in congress was it illegal at that time? FoC says Yes.

FoC what should the national govt. do about global warming

[FlameOfCallandor]

So guys, what would give the federal government the authority to enforce universal health care?

[FlameOfCallandor]

FoC what should the national govt. do about global warming

What can it do about global warming?

[Gay Boy]

So guys, what would give the federal government the authority to enforce universal health care?

what gives the federal govt. power to enforce all the laws congress passes that aren't done through amendments that aren't outlined in the constitution?

Aka 90% of what congress passes?

[Gay Boy]

FoC what should the national govt. do about global warming

What can it do about global warming?

This will get your goat.

HOW ABOUT A CARBON TAX?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Nothing, the free market will work it out.

And when it's 20 degrees hotter in July I'm sure the free market will have lots of solutions for that, too.

And when the poor people die of heat stroke at least we didn't pay for their health care!

[Gay Boy]

FoC. England has universal health care and yet they are pretty damn free, where is the problem?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Most of Europe is actually a lot "freer" than the U.S. despite social welfare state lol

Do you know about "Europe," FoC? It's those tiny countries northeast of Texas on the map.

[Gay Boy]

but but but GOVT. DOING STUFF = NO FREEDOMS

[FlameOfCallandor]

HOW ABOUT A CARBON TAX?

 

OMGZ but then rich people will be able to afford more carbon, are you saying that rich people deserve more LOlLZlloelers!!!!