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« Reply #720 on: November 13, 2007, 07:12:06 PM »
it's not just about support (which he has in abundance!)-it's about active consorting with those elements, which Herr Doktor has done repeatedly.

:lol :lol :lol You guys really do try so hard. I will give you credit for making up bullshit.

I suppose open support for the branch davidians and parroting in public forums the beliefs of white supremacists:

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Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots.  Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists -- and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.

Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action.... Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the "criminal justice system," I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced?  We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.

Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth.  The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That's what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn't ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.
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« Reply #721 on: November 13, 2007, 07:12:19 PM »
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« Reply #722 on: November 13, 2007, 07:13:21 PM »
Well Patel certainly has turned this shit-heap into a jumbo curry flavored diarrhea wagon.

I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.
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« Reply #723 on: November 13, 2007, 07:13:44 PM »

I suppose open support for the branch davidians and parroting in public forums the beliefs of white supremacists:


Link? Then I'll be back later.

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« Reply #724 on: November 13, 2007, 07:13:59 PM »
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« Reply #725 on: November 13, 2007, 07:14:17 PM »
Well Patel certainly has turned this shit-heap into a jumbo curry flavored diarrhea wagon.

I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

He didnt say that. It's been noted already.

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« Reply #726 on: November 13, 2007, 07:15:08 PM »
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« Reply #727 on: November 13, 2007, 07:20:49 PM »
Well Patel certainly has turned this shit-heap into a jumbo curry flavored diarrhea wagon.

I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

He didnt say that. It's been noted already.

his name was on it-"Ron Paul Political Report". oh the irony of nuance
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« Reply #728 on: November 13, 2007, 07:23:16 PM »
Frag: I didn't really follow that kerfluffle.  AFAIK, it was published under his name, went under the radar, then he said several years later that he didn't write it, but for some reason couldn't have admitted that during the campaign.

If that's accurate, did anyone find out who *did* write it?  Why couldn't he say so during the campaign?  Was that implied plagiarism/ghostwriting?  It all seems odd to me.

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« Reply #729 on: November 13, 2007, 07:24:24 PM »
how dare you question foc's new personal jesus! how dare you! it is YOU who must be questioned, not the good doctor who is a clearly principled* man!

*(apparently, it's better to have stupid and naive principles than none at all!)
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« Reply #730 on: November 13, 2007, 07:26:54 PM »
Frag: I didn't really follow that kerfluffle.  AFAIK, it was published under his name, went under the radar, then he said several years later that he didn't write it, but for some reason couldn't have admitted that during the campaign.

If that's accurate, did anyone find out who *did* write it?  Why couldn't he say so during the campaign?  Was that implied plagiarism/ghostwriting?  It all seems odd to me.

It was never really answered, likely because the media has more important things to cover. Like candidates who will get people to vote for them.
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« Reply #731 on: November 13, 2007, 09:08:50 PM »
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'Nother thing.  Libertarians are almost as bad as centrists for committing the pundit's fallacy.

"There is a great untapped mass of people who believe what I believe, and only the smoke and mirrors of politics are keeping it from becoming a movement!"

yeah, but every small political movement thinks that.  the difference is that we Marxists are right about it
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« Reply #732 on: November 13, 2007, 09:16:44 PM »
If The People don't tend towards centrism, why do candidates appeal to the middle when they're actually their party's nominee?  Why have centrist politicians done so well, while fringe candidates are by definition on the fringe?
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« Reply #733 on: November 13, 2007, 09:57:56 PM »
If The People don't tend towards centrism, why do candidates appeal to the middle when they're actually their party's nominee?  Why have centrist politicians done so well, while fringe candidates are by definition on the fringe?
Globally the 'center' has moved towards the right. It is not that the 'right' or 'left' have moved toward the center but rather the 'left' has moved towards the 'right'.
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« Reply #734 on: November 13, 2007, 10:01:38 PM »
I disagree
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« Reply #735 on: November 13, 2007, 10:07:21 PM »
In what way?
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« Reply #736 on: November 13, 2007, 10:13:41 PM »
I disagree that you can characterize the country as a whole as shifting to the right; I disagree that, even were that the case, the center itself wouldn't therefore shift; I disagree with the interpretation of my post to be referring to politics in general shifting towards the center, and not politicians being successful speaking to the center and not their base when they are in general elections.
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« Reply #737 on: November 13, 2007, 10:24:40 PM »
Well I disagree. The ideological center is static but the for lack of better term 'voting center' has been moving towards the right.
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« Reply #738 on: November 13, 2007, 10:28:34 PM »
By what measure or logic are you asserting this premise?
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« Reply #739 on: November 13, 2007, 10:31:00 PM »
APF, have you read E.F. Codd's original 1970 paper presenting the relational model?  It changed my life.
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« Reply #740 on: November 13, 2007, 10:35:40 PM »
hey, and you can find it online!  http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~zives/03f/cis550/codd.pdf
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« Reply #741 on: November 13, 2007, 10:38:07 PM »
I said globally so I can't talk about the specificities of American politics.
Tony Blair's 'New' Labour implemented key economic reforms (such as minimum wage etc).
Canada voting for a Tory government.
Australia's Labour and Liberal government that really only differentiates on climate change.
China etc.

I don't think Clinton is all too different from a conservative anyway.
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« Reply #742 on: November 14, 2007, 12:10:18 AM »
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'Nother thing.  Libertarians are almost as bad as centrists for committing the pundit's fallacy.

"There is a great untapped mass of people who believe what I believe, and only the smoke and mirrors of politics are keeping it from becoming a movement!"

yeah, but every small political movement thinks that.  the difference is that we Marxists are right about it

True that.

Though I know a good chunk of leftists (see Raoul Duke) who revel in the idea that they're in a tiny, sane, frustrated minority.  Come to think of it, that's true of the libbies too, so I kinda take it back.

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« Reply #743 on: November 14, 2007, 01:55:23 AM »
why would they relocate across the earth to study in the US if they're not going to make a career in the US?
most of the people that can get accepted to UC Berkeley can get accepted to a comparable Iranian university but it wouldn't make sense unless your going to work here.
What does that do with the government giving money to pay for education?
cause that's investing in the economy.

we're talking about an EDUCATION.  something you need provided for you in order to function in a libertarian society.

pretty much every other western country has a system for universal healthcare.  it's on the same level as being fed.  if you can't have a functional body (be alive) what good is your government?

I know you ignored prole's essay but quickly gloss over it, it's very interesting.

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« Reply #744 on: November 14, 2007, 07:44:13 AM »
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'Nother thing.  Libertarians are almost as bad as centrists for committing the pundit's fallacy.

"There is a great untapped mass of people who believe what I believe, and only the smoke and mirrors of politics are keeping it from becoming a movement!"

yeah, but every small political movement thinks that.  the difference is that we Marxists are right about it

True that.

Though I know a good chunk of leftists (see Raoul Duke) who revel in the idea that they're in a tiny, sane, frustrated minority.  Come to think of it, that's true of the libbies too, so I kinda take it back.

It's not that I like the notion of being part of a small, in the know group... it's that I hate the vast majority of the populace so much that I have to comfort myself by thinking that.
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« Reply #745 on: November 14, 2007, 08:04:33 AM »
I mean what is the point of having a govt. if you dont want them to do ANYTHING?
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« Reply #747 on: November 14, 2007, 11:24:47 AM »
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=51414
USA Today Ad Creator & Other Hard-Money Pros Put $s Behind Ron Paul
Holy shit this is awesome. This will appear on the busiest travel day of the year.






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« Reply #748 on: November 14, 2007, 11:25:27 AM »

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« Reply #749 on: November 14, 2007, 11:28:41 AM »
If politics were a religion that would be blasphemy.
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« Reply #750 on: November 14, 2007, 11:31:39 AM »
B-B-But cheebs wants free healthcare. Who cares what the law is!!

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« Reply #751 on: November 14, 2007, 11:32:50 AM »
All the good ideas and principled stances in the world won't change the political arena. Ron Paul can make promises, but thats because he currently ISN'T president.
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« Reply #752 on: November 14, 2007, 12:55:53 PM »
B-B-But cheebs wants free healthcare. Who cares what the law is!!
so does the majority of the country and 90% of the people in this thread.

Why do you think the majority of the country would trust the govt. with their health care you think FoC?
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« Reply #753 on: November 14, 2007, 01:20:29 PM »
Kids love candy; its a big reason a Libertarian government will never get elected.
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« Reply #754 on: November 14, 2007, 01:24:26 PM »
Kids love candy; its a big reason a Libertarian government will never get elected.

and libertarian mooncalves love their star-spangled dreams
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« Reply #755 on: November 14, 2007, 03:12:45 PM »
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17323345/ron_paul_a_republican_takes_the_lead_against_the_war

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From the Article:

Ron Paul may be an old-school Republican, but no other candidate running for president — in either party — has spoken out against the war in Iraq as bluntly as he has.

Later on, Paul gets tough. When asked about Giuliani, he responded with:

…since Giuliani is so anxious to go to war, somebody ought to ask him why he didn’t go when he was called up instead of ducking it like some of those other chicken hawks — he took, what, four deferrals?



Giuliani got owned.  :lol

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« Reply #756 on: November 14, 2007, 03:13:49 PM »
I doubt rudy gets upset about what fringe candidates say about him. If Romney said it then it'd be a story.
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« Reply #757 on: November 14, 2007, 03:19:20 PM »
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/43/ron-paul-surges-ahead-of-thompson-tied-with-mccain

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ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA—Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is gaining momentum in New Hampshire and Iowa, according to a poll released Tuesday by CBS News and the New York Times. The Texas congressman has garnered an estimated 8 percent in New Hampshire, surpassing former GOP front-runner Fred Thompson, and is now tied with John McCain in Iowa.

Polls released over the weekend by the Boston Globe in association with the University of New Hampshire Survey Center, and the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, both confirmed Congressman Paul’s support to be higher than Thompson’s as well.

“The polls confirm what we already know: Congressman Paul is catching on in the early primary states,” said Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton.  “His unifying message of freedom, peace, and prosperity is resonating strongly with voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, and we’re rapidly gaining support nationwide.”

The CBS-New York Times poll was conducted November 2-12.  On November 5, the Ron Paul campaign brought in a record-breaking $4.2 million online, and an additional $1 million to end the week. 


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Cheebs is gonna be banned!!

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« Reply #758 on: November 14, 2007, 03:27:51 PM »
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/43/ron-paul-surges-ahead-of-thompson-tied-with-mccain

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ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA—Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is gaining momentum in New Hampshire and Iowa, according to a poll released Tuesday by CBS News and the New York Times. The Texas congressman has garnered an estimated 8 percent in New Hampshire, surpassing former GOP front-runner Fred Thompson, and is now tied with John McCain in Iowa.

Polls released over the weekend by the Boston Globe in association with the University of New Hampshire Survey Center, and the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, both confirmed Congressman Paul’s support to be higher than Thompson’s as well.

“The polls confirm what we already know: Congressman Paul is catching on in the early primary states,” said Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton.  “His unifying message of freedom, peace, and prosperity is resonating strongly with voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, and we’re rapidly gaining support nationwide.”

The CBS-New York Times poll was conducted November 2-12.  On November 5, the Ron Paul campaign brought in a record-breaking $4.2 million online, and an additional $1 million to end the week. 


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He is nowhere near 10% in Iowa.

Latest poll in Iowa:

Romney - 30
Huckabee - 19
Rudy - 12
Thompson - 11
McCain - 7
Paul - 5

the last poll before that one (the one you just sourced):

Romney - 27
Huckabee - 21
Rudy - 15
Thompson - 10
McCain - 4
Paul - 4


You just sourced a poll where it has him tied for last place with 4%. How is that above 10% which is the bet?
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« Reply #759 on: November 14, 2007, 03:28:56 PM »
 :hans1 :santocry

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« Reply #760 on: November 14, 2007, 03:34:09 PM »
is there any way to disable emoticons on a per-account basis? I would love for FoC to be unable to use laughing emotes.

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« Reply #761 on: November 14, 2007, 03:35:51 PM »
:hans1 :santocry
What a reply.

Both Huckabee and Paul were 0% candidates 6 months ago. Huckabee has risen into the top tier, not Paul. How about that?
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« Reply #762 on: November 14, 2007, 03:38:08 PM »
what if *gasp* foc becomes a famous director. and what if people discover his posts on forums like gaf and eb. what will people think of him
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« Reply #763 on: November 14, 2007, 03:40:18 PM »
:hans1 :santocry
What a reply.

Both Huckabee and Paul were 0% candidates 6 months ago. Huckabee has risen into the top tier, not Paul. How about that?

orly? Why is huckabee getting no press. Ron Paul is getting press everywhere.

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« Reply #764 on: November 14, 2007, 03:41:05 PM »
what if *gasp* foc becomes a famous director. and what if people discover his posts on forums like gaf and eb. what will people think of him

Heaven forbid people find out I like liberty  :o

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« Reply #765 on: November 14, 2007, 03:51:46 PM »
Why the fuck is this thread 700 posts
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« Reply #766 on: November 14, 2007, 03:55:06 PM »
Because the Constitution.

Hey FoC, why does that Ron Paul ad talk about "honest money" instead of "return to the gold standard"? Is it because a return to the gold standard is a fucking nutjob idea that only a loonybin fruitcake would ever advocate? So he's hiding behind his words? Some straight talker!
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« Reply #767 on: November 14, 2007, 04:06:41 PM »
even if you don't believe in a libertarian society, wouldn't most people agree that our government needs a libertarian push at this point?    the only people that seem capable of even making small changes in government are those that really push their agenda.  with checks and balances in place, paul will not make america a libertarian society, but i honestly think he could do a lot of good.

can someone point me to a good debunking of the gold standard?  i'm seriously curious.  when the people in power have so much to gain, i can't take expert opinions as fact. 

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« Reply #769 on: November 14, 2007, 04:15:38 PM »
Because the Constitution.

Hey FoC, why does that Ron Paul ad talk about "honest money" instead of "return to the gold standard"? Is it because a return to the gold standard is a fucking nutjob idea that only a loonybin fruitcake would ever advocate? So he's hiding behind his words? Some straight talker!

Why do you call it universal healthcare? Why not call it free shit for people without a job.

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« Reply #770 on: November 14, 2007, 04:25:34 PM »
orly? Why is huckabee getting no press. Ron Paul is getting press everywhere.
As we all know Howard Dean proved getting loads of press = success in Iowa and beyond!


Why do you call it universal healthcare? Why not call it free shit for people without a job.

Because people who work get it too! *gasp* That's why it is called...Universal Health Care
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« Reply #771 on: November 14, 2007, 04:28:47 PM »
Because people who work get it too! *gasp* That's why it is called...Universal Health Care

What about people who dont want it? Do they have to pay for it?


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« Reply #772 on: November 14, 2007, 04:29:15 PM »
Ron Paul - Everywhere in New Hampshire

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« Reply #773 on: November 14, 2007, 04:34:35 PM »
America's Growing Trade Deficit Is Selling The Nation Out From Under Us. Here's A Way To Fix The Problem--And We Need To Do It Now.


http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2003/11/10/352872/index.htm

B-B-But we need the government to do more shit for us!!!

Wake up people, the government isnt a cash dispenser.

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« Reply #774 on: November 14, 2007, 04:37:46 PM »
Because people who work get it too! *gasp* That's why it is called...Universal Health Care

What about people who dont want it? Do they have to pay for it?


Well the majority wants it. You can't please everyone but you try to go for the most and the most want govt. health care. The minority did not vote Bush in 04 but they don't get what they want, its life.
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« Reply #775 on: November 14, 2007, 04:42:44 PM »
thanks, though the wikipedia article doesn't say all that much.  since there is a finite amount, maybe gold isn't the best material.  the push for an energy-based standard mentioned in the article is interesting.  could energy be artificially inflated if it became standard?  i mean, it is the most inherently useful thing.  

what i don't like about fiat currency is that it gives government a blank check to start wars and do pretty much whatever they want.    the greatest tragedies happen when government is given too much power, and they start doing what they believe is in everyone's best interest.  what is in our best interest is a decision that should be made at the individual level.  wars or holocausts would rarely happen if the government wasn't so powerful, and they get most of their power from an unlimited supply of money.  

and the notion that we are borrowing our money at interest seems terrible to me.  it's manufactured that we can never get out of debt, because if we try to, we will have to borrow even more money at interest.  say we were to keep a paper currency, why can't the government print it?  at least there is some accountability for politicians as opposed to private bankers.  could anyone point me to a good reason for this?

FoC, I know you have good intentions, but entertaining insults won't help you get your point across.  it's difficult, but you just have to ignore it.  plus, don't try to sound so spiteful when you retort people.  you seem to have a very in-your-face attitude, which will turn people off.  this is not to say that the people antagonoing you aren't as guilty as you, if not more so.  i'm just telling you this because you're on my side

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« Reply #776 on: November 14, 2007, 05:13:56 PM »
what i don't like about fiat currency is that it gives government a blank check to start wars and do pretty much whatever they want.

Dear Libertarians of the Internets,

Please stop conflating every function of government into a single, amorphous concept of Statist Authority.  Public education doesn't inevitably lead to gulags, estate taxes don't necessitate invasions, and the FDA doesn't push us down a slippery slope towards genocide.

Your friend, Mandark.

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« Reply #777 on: November 14, 2007, 05:17:36 PM »
BobbyRobby, thanks for trying to talk FoC down from his ledge. The sad thing is that I agree with him on most points (we should pull out of Iraq, Big Brother/PATRIOT act are bad, we need to eliminate the federal deficit). Unfortunately, he presents his points in a way that is both 1) antagonistic and 2) completely unsupported, so instead of discussing issues it just seems like he's trying to insult me into voting for Ron Paul. And no matter how many times he tells me to WAKE UP that's not going to happen.

Again, while there's been a lot of mudslinging in this thread, there's also been a lot of good discussion with supported, nuanced points and references. Unfortunately, all of it has been in spite of FoC's virulent ramblings.
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« Reply #778 on: November 14, 2007, 05:31:07 PM »
Sorry guys, but try to see it from my point of view, cheebs and Triumph come here only to antoginiz me and in some cases calling me "it."  WTF is that about?

I vary rarely will try to mudsling unless I feel like I am being gangraped.

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« Reply #779 on: November 14, 2007, 05:31:40 PM »
Unfortunately, he presents his points in a way that is both 1) antagonistic and 2) completely unsupported,

This is false i support most of what I say here.