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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1860 on: December 20, 2007, 05:16:09 PM »
it's not nitpicking when the candidate is being completely and utterly facile and disingenuous

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« Reply #1861 on: December 20, 2007, 05:59:09 PM »
the ad could be aimed at the religious conservatives but it doesn't outright say that huckabee is the only christian or anything.

ron paul gets asked what he thinks of the ad and he points out the connection of fascism with symbolism.

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« Reply #1862 on: December 20, 2007, 07:30:05 PM »
Paul did not say "Huckabee is a fascist."

But Paul DID say that Huckabee is a fascist.

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« Reply #1863 on: December 20, 2007, 07:30:31 PM »
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« Reply #1864 on: December 20, 2007, 07:31:29 PM »
Hmm Never seen that photo before. Is it from the official site?

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« Reply #1865 on: December 20, 2007, 07:33:38 PM »
I think that rubbing placenta all over the flag counts as desecration. :wag
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« Reply #1866 on: December 20, 2007, 07:35:02 PM »
I think that rubbing placenta all over the flag counts as desecration. :wag

 :lol maybe, but that picture is most likely just an overzealous pice of fan art.

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« Reply #1867 on: December 20, 2007, 07:36:03 PM »
That's actually a nice picture.  I have no interest in the Paul candidacy but I like that art.
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« Reply #1868 on: December 20, 2007, 07:36:47 PM »
That's actually a nice picture.  I have no interest in the Paul candidacy but I like that art.

What particular part of the picture do you like?

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« Reply #1869 on: December 20, 2007, 07:38:19 PM »
That's actually a nice picture.  I have no interest in the Paul candidacy but I like that art.

What particular part of the picture do you like?

I like the way that dinner is served in its own napkin. elegant design.
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« Reply #1870 on: December 20, 2007, 07:41:30 PM »

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« Reply #1871 on: December 20, 2007, 07:44:03 PM »
The CIA is badass. :bow
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« Reply #1872 on: December 20, 2007, 07:44:40 PM »
I don't think the CIA would be undirty under Ron Paul.  The whole purpose of the organization is to subvert the law; the current administration has just given them a heads up to be more public about their activities.
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« Reply #1873 on: December 20, 2007, 07:45:45 PM »
The CIA is badass. :bow
 
 

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« Reply #1874 on: December 20, 2007, 07:46:22 PM »
Fuck yeah. Jack Bauer style.
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« Reply #1875 on: December 20, 2007, 07:46:51 PM »
I don't think the CIA would be undirty under Ron Paul.  The whole purpose of the organization is to subvert the law; the current administration has just given them a heads up to be more public about their activities.

He wants to get rid of the CIA. If he could do that or not is another story. At the very least we could get more transperency and maybe asome public oversight to what they do.

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« Reply #1876 on: December 20, 2007, 07:47:21 PM »
How the hell are we supposed to do covert operations and spying without the CIA?
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« Reply #1877 on: December 20, 2007, 07:49:39 PM »
I don't think the CIA would be undirty under Ron Paul.  The whole purpose of the organization is to subvert the law; the current administration has just given them a heads up to be more public about their activities.

He wants to get rid of the CIA. If he could do that or not is another story. At the very least we could get more transperency and maybe asome public oversight to what they do.

Wouldn't happen.  To do so would require overhauling all of our intelligence resources, which wouldn't float in today's US.  There'd be downtime of years where SIGINT wouldn't be too effective.  Secret budgets or no, the CIA has a bit of legitimacy.

I mean, I'm the sort of person that's against things like secret budgets and secret police, but even I can't deny that the CIA can't be done away with until there is an adequate replacement, as in a fully functioning replacement.
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« Reply #1878 on: December 20, 2007, 07:50:58 PM »
We need the CIA, where else would we base our spy movies?
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« Reply #1879 on: December 20, 2007, 07:51:59 PM »
We need the CIA, where else would we base our spy movies?


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« Reply #1880 on: December 20, 2007, 07:55:20 PM »
Also, my CIA would still have the secret budget thing going on.  Intelligence agencies need that sort of thing.
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« Reply #1881 on: December 20, 2007, 08:02:48 PM »
Also, my CIA would still have the secret budget thing going on.  Intelligence agencies need that sort of thing.
I disagree. We can both agree that our intelligence budget and agencies are way to big yes? We have the FBI, CIA department of homeland security etc...

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« Reply #1882 on: December 20, 2007, 08:07:09 PM »
Things have gotten muddled over the past 50 years, but the FBI and CIA have different purposes.

The CIA not having to answer directly to the public for its budget is one of the reasons it has any chance of being an effective intelligence agency.  They can't really go about investigating shit from third parties if what they spend their budget on is public knowledge available to all.
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« Reply #1883 on: December 20, 2007, 08:10:01 PM »
Ron Paul promises a US with less intelligence
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« Reply #1884 on: December 20, 2007, 08:11:35 PM »
Things have gotten muddled over the past 50 years, but the FBI and CIA have different purposes.

The CIA not having to answer directly to the public for its budget is one of the reasons it has any chance of being an effective intelligence agency.  They can't really go about investigating shit from third parties if what they spend their budget on is public knowledge available to all.

Why is this important though? Why part does a secret agency play in a free society.

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« Reply #1885 on: December 20, 2007, 08:13:16 PM »
Things have gotten muddled over the past 50 years, but the FBI and CIA have different purposes.

The CIA not having to answer directly to the public for its budget is one of the reasons it has any chance of being an effective intelligence agency.  They can't really go about investigating shit from third parties if what they spend their budget on is public knowledge available to all.

Why is this important though? Why part does a secret agency play in a free society.

Because the US isn't the only country on earth?

Why is it important?  Go read Wikipedia!  Its purpose isn't secret.
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« Reply #1886 on: December 20, 2007, 08:16:46 PM »
Because the US isn't the only country on earth?

Why is it important?  Go read Wikipedia!  Its purpose isn't secret.

So all the meddeling in south american politics makes us safer? What about all tht Iraq info? Boy that sure was good stuff.

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« Reply #1887 on: December 20, 2007, 08:17:25 PM »
Let's shut down our spy network, I'm sure China and Russia will do the same out of respect for Dr. Ronald Paulstein.
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« Reply #1888 on: December 20, 2007, 08:18:47 PM »
Let's shut down our spy network, I'm sure China and Russia will do the same out of respect for Dr. Ronald Paulstein.

Are you afraid that china and Russia are out to attack us?

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« Reply #1889 on: December 20, 2007, 08:19:27 PM »
Because the US isn't the only country on earth?

Why is it important?  Go read Wikipedia!  Its purpose isn't secret.

So all the meddeling in south american politics makes us safer? What about all tht Iraq info? Boy that sure was good stuff.

Because I totally said those were important things to do.  US Intelligence is not beyond criticism, but to write it off as something we don't need is absolutely daft.  And US Intelligence has done much worse things than interfere in central american politics.
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« Reply #1890 on: December 20, 2007, 08:21:18 PM »
Because I totally said those were important things to do.  US Intelligence is not beyond criticism, but to write it off as something we don't need is absolutely daft.  And US Intelligence has done much worse things than interfere in central american politics.

Ok, I can agree with most of that. At the very least I want to make sure that the CIA is never NEVER used on U.S. citizens. And it should be alot smaller.

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« Reply #1891 on: December 20, 2007, 08:23:23 PM »
1) The number of people that work for the CIA is not known.  I have no idea how you make unknown SMALLER.

2) By policy, the CIA isn't meant to be used on US citizens.  That policy isn't always followed, though, and there's no real way to enforce it without crippling the efficacy of other CIA operations.
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« Reply #1892 on: December 20, 2007, 08:25:20 PM »
1) The number of people that work for the CIA is not known.  I have no idea how you make unknown SMALLER.

2) By policy, the CIA isn't meant to be used on US citizens.  That policy isn't always followed, though, and there's no real way to enforce it without crippling the efficacy of other CIA operations.

1) It should be known. And we can infer how big they are based on what they do.

2) Then crippling the efficacy is a price that we must pay to insure that it never happens. I dont think it would be crippled that much if at all.

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« Reply #1893 on: December 20, 2007, 08:27:28 PM »
Let's shut down our spy network, I'm sure China and Russia will do the same out of respect for Dr. Ronald Paulstein.
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« Reply #1894 on: December 20, 2007, 08:28:33 PM »
Why should it be known?  The more info publicly available, the more their operations are compromised.  I suggest reading up on how intelligence works.

Here, I did some research for you:

"The aggregate intelligence budget was $26.6 billion in fiscal year 1997 and $26.7 billion for fiscal year 1998. "

That was the budget for ALL INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES in the US, of which the CIA is just one (there are I think about 10).  In those same years, the budget for the military was approx 500 billion. ie, the CIA is not very big.
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« Reply #1895 on: December 20, 2007, 08:30:45 PM »
I just checked, there are 16 US Intelligence Agencies.

EDIT:  Also

"The U.S. government spent $43.5 billion on intelligence in 2007"

That's less than one tenth of what the base military budget is, and consider that the CIA only gets a fraction of that.
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« Reply #1896 on: December 20, 2007, 09:00:55 PM »
Emo Trogdor (8:00:13 PM): what's wrong with pedophilia hatred and racism
mutilatedchao (8:00:39 PM): they're not ok
mutilatedchao (8:00:47 PM): unless you're a hateful pedophile racist
mutilatedchao (8:00:53 PM): that's cool
Emo Trogdor (8:00:53 PM): o ok
Emo Trogdor (8:00:59 PM): RON PAUL 2008
mutilatedchao (8:01:02 PM): just not by themselves
mutilatedchao (8:01:15 PM): ron paul is the only choice for hateful racist pedophiles
Emo Trogdor (8:01:18 PM): yays
mutilatedchao (8:01:50 PM): he prolly delivers babbies so he can have sex with them
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« Reply #1897 on: December 20, 2007, 09:07:09 PM »
you'd have to be pretty distinguished mentally-challenged to think the main problems in the military today have to do with the CIA.  blame bush, everybody knows he ignored the CIA and made up his own evidence.  also, the vast majority of the money used in Iraq is on reconstruction so thinking military spending is related to that is kind of distinguished mentally-challenged.  what actual national military programs would ron paul cut back on in order to shrink military spending (in a way that matters)?

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« Reply #1898 on: December 20, 2007, 09:09:07 PM »
you'd have to be pretty distinguished mentally-challenged to think the main problems in the military today have to do with the CIA. 

It's a good thing no one said that.

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« Reply #1899 on: December 20, 2007, 09:14:14 PM »
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Ron Paul own Neil Cavuto

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« Reply #1900 on: December 20, 2007, 09:16:21 PM »
[youtube=425,350]QqPhrqllHzY[/youtube]


Ron Paul own Neil Cavuto
Him not nomination win.
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« Reply #1901 on: December 20, 2007, 09:19:18 PM »
http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_likely_to_win_Kansas_primary


Ron Paul wins Kansas straw poll 79-0, signs of a future win in the state's primary.

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« Reply #1902 on: December 20, 2007, 09:36:35 PM »
Ron Paul supporters: skilled at grasping at straws
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« Reply #1903 on: December 20, 2007, 11:06:26 PM »
http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_likely_to_win_Kansas_primary


Ron Paul wins Kansas straw poll 79-0, signs of a future win in the state's primary.

Too bad Kansas's primary has no importance at all.
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« Reply #1904 on: December 20, 2007, 11:53:07 PM »
Reading See No Evil (good book, check it out), to paraphrase Robert Baer, the purpose of being a CIA agent is to break laws of other countries.  Your goal is to have agents and their recruits give you sensitive information that they'd never have a clue on getting otherwise.

The CIA does some shady things but modern societies need them.  It is almost brain-dead to assume that a nation does not depend on effective intelligence.  I guarantee you nations like Sweden, Norway, Japan, etc. all have intelligence agencies that do the same things as the CIA.  Not that I condone torture or secret prisons, which is definitely overstepping boundaries, even for an organization like the CIA, but to say that abolishing it would be good is extremely idiotic.  Nor would I agree to the CIA being some neutered "organization" that can't actually get information due to all the red tape.  The CIA just needs strict limits on dealing with potential unfriendlies.  Torture is not necessary because it doesn't even give accurate results.  So not only is it controversial, it is a waste of time.

As for the Kansas Straw Poll, it is unlikely that Paul would win.  The big ones are Iowa and New Hampshire.  Paul is only pulling single digits here in Iowa and the caucus is exactly two weeks away.  It would require nothing short of a miracle for him to move from 5% to 30%, the amount he would need to win.  Same goes for NH.  If he can't get those, he will probably just concentrate on his re-election campaign in Texas.  So the next month will definitely be interesting in terms of the mental breakdowns and hilariously tragic spin we will read when Paul gets the same numbers now as he did 6 months ago.
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« Reply #1905 on: December 20, 2007, 11:54:59 PM »
Reading See No Evil (good book, check it out), to paraphrase Robert Baer, the purpose of being a CIA agent is to break laws of other countries.  Your goal is to have agents and their recruits give you sensitive information that they'd never have a clue on getting otherwise.

The CIA does some shady things but modern societies need them.  It is almost brain-dead to assume that a nation does not depend on effective intelligence.  I guarantee you nations like Sweden, Norway, Japan, etc. all have intelligence agencies that do the same things as the CIA.  Not that I condone torture or secret prisons, which is definitely overstepping boundaries, even for an organization like the CIA, but to say that abolishing it would be good is extremely idiotic.  Nor would I agree to the CIA being some neutered "organization" that can't actually get information due to all the red tape.  The CIA just needs strict limits on dealing with potential unfriendlies.  Torture is not necessary because it doesn't even give accurate results.  So not only is it controversial, it is a waste of time.

As for the Kansas Straw Poll, it is unlikely that Paul would win.  The big ones are Iowa and New Hampshire.  Paul is only pulling single digits here in Iowa and the caucus is exactly two weeks away.  It would require nothing short of a miracle for him to move from 5% to 30%, the amount he would need to win.  Same goes for NH.  If he can't get those, he will probably just concentrate on his re-election campaign in Texas.  So the next month will definitely be interesting in terms of the mental breakdowns and hilariously tragic spin we will read when Paul gets the same numbers now as he did 6 months ago.
Woah. This is perhaps the greatest post in this entire thread.

I love that FoC keeps linking to info from this way-off states. If a candidate can't win one of the big 4. Iowa, NH, Michigan, and South Carolina their campaign is dead and over.

Ron Paul will have pulled out of the primary and will be focusing on either running for the house or some insane third party general run that will get nowhere and be blocked from the ballots by the two parties like Nader was in '04.

Meaning? FoC will never get a chance in his life to ever vote for Ron Paul in a presidential election. Primary or otherwise.
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« Reply #1906 on: December 21, 2007, 12:13:02 AM »
Woah. This is perhaps the greatest post in this entire thread.

I love that FoC keeps linking to info from this way-off states. If a candidate can't win one of the big 4. Iowa, NH, Michigan, and South Carolina their campaign is dead and over.

Ron Paul will have pulled out of the primary and will be focusing on either running for the house or some insane third party general run that will get nowhere and be blocked from the ballots by the two parties like Nader was in '04.

Meaning? FoC will never get a chance in his life to ever vote for Ron Paul in a presidential election. Primary or otherwise.

Exactly.  If he can't win those four, he would most likely drop out.

Paul can't keep waiting around for an Alaska or Kansas caucus.  He there is no sign in those four caucuses, then he will give up.  He is still planning to run for re-election in the House of Representatives so he can't spend too much time waiting for unimportant state caucuses.  Even though he is an incumbent, he still has to campaign in his district and raise money for his HR seat.  He can't spend all his time on a nomination when every significant caucus has him in the single digits.

The Ron Paul 4 Prez campaign won't end there.  They will just start up drives to pencil in his name in the ballots.  Well, those that manage to not hang themselves in their mom's basement because America's Great Hope has no chance.
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« Reply #1907 on: December 21, 2007, 12:22:01 AM »
Reading See No Evil (good book, check it out), to paraphrase Robert Baer, the purpose of being a CIA agent is to break laws of other countries.  Your goal is to have agents and their recruits give you sensitive information that they'd never have a clue on getting otherwise.

The CIA does some shady things but modern societies need them.  It is almost brain-dead to assume that a nation does not depend on effective intelligence.  I guarantee you nations like Sweden, Norway, Japan, etc. all have intelligence agencies that do the same things as the CIA.  Not that I condone torture or secret prisons, which is definitely overstepping boundaries, even for an organization like the CIA, but to say that abolishing it would be good is extremely idiotic.  Nor would I agree to the CIA being some neutered "organization" that can't actually get information due to all the red tape.  The CIA just needs strict limits on dealing with potential unfriendlies.  Torture is not necessary because it doesn't even give accurate results.  So not only is it controversial, it is a waste of time.


It's been years since I read much on the subject, but I doubt the available info has changed that much.  In college I was into SIGINT stuff a lot, and I think that mentally I toyed with trying to get in the CIA for a while, so I read a lot of info on it.

The CIA started in a fairly bog standard way.  It was basically the continuation of some intelligence groups and projects begun during the course of WWII.  In the next 10 or so years, they had plenty of stuff to keep themselves busy with, but at the same time, it was during the genesis that permanent black eyes like MKULTRA happened, and such transgressions appear to have happened regularly ever since.

Being tough to say what went wrong (because its history is ultimately something secret), my guess would be that it was given too much of its own free will during its formative years.  Those early years, that first decade when Gottlieb went crazy and MKULTRA happened, they ultimately set the tone for what came after.  When one of the earliest parts of your legacy is MKULTRA, there are bound to be problems.

The central American shenanigans, FoC?  Not the CIA's fault, exactly.  They weren't the only people fucking around down there, and they weren't there by their own volition.  Don't forget that the CIA is an org directly tied to the president and cabinet--the CIA can't go rogue and fuck shit up if they want to.  They are only as "good" as the people ordering them.  This is as true as in the days of Gottlieb as it was in the 70s and 80s.

If you think the CIA is good for nothing, and should be shut down, well, you don't know much about the intelligence game in the world.  Intelligence agencies earn their right to exist by the same doctrine that dictated the founding of the CIA in the first place:  if our enemies have intelligence agencies, we need one, too.  It's not just a matter of "the bad guys have this toy, we wants one too."  An intelligence gap means our technology falls behind, and our enemies, with up to date intelligence, can read what we think of as "secret" very easily.  Intelligence serves as much a purpose of making sure our shit stays secret as it does finding out other nation's secrets.

Also, FoC, as I said before, things are more muddled today, but the CIA is ultimately not responsible for its own actions.  The people that tell the CIA what to do (not the CIA itself) are.  The CIA is a civilian group, not a military group, not a law enforcement group.  If they say "put together a secret prison," they aren't the ones actually doing it.  That is a cross group initiative, which means that some important people must think that it is an acceptable idea.

Basically, FoC, if you know as little about the Department of Education as you do the intelligence community, I think you've just pantsed yourself well and dandy for all to see.
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« Reply #1908 on: December 21, 2007, 12:44:26 AM »
I just read the Wikipedia entry for MKULTRA.  Pretty disturbing stuff.

I'm also currently reading Ghost Wars, covering the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, which stated that on several occasions, the CIA overstepped their boundaries either by themselves or with Zia's ISI.

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If they say "put together a secret prison," they aren't the ones actually doing it.  That is a cross group initiative, which means that some important people must think that it is an acceptable idea.

I recall that one of the secret prisons was in Egypt and the prisoner never was in contact with Americans, it was always with Egyptians.
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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1909 on: December 21, 2007, 12:44:31 AM »
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Meaning? FoC will never get a chance in his life to ever vote for Ron Paul in a presidential election. Primary or otherwise.

I could still vote for him. Which is what I probably would do if he didnt get the nomination.

FlameOfCallandor

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1910 on: December 21, 2007, 12:45:14 AM »
Who's idea was it to give Osama Bi Laden weapons and training? Was that the CIA. Sounds like a smart group of guys.

Van Cruncheon

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1911 on: December 21, 2007, 12:50:08 AM »
so because someone abuses something, we get rid of it? jesus FUCK YOU ABUSE OUR PATIENCE CAN WE PLEASE ABOLISH YOU
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FlameOfCallandor

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1912 on: December 21, 2007, 12:51:24 AM »
so because someone abuses something, we get rid of it?

Yup, there is only one abuse in all of CIA's history. 

FlameOfCallandor

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1913 on: December 21, 2007, 12:54:12 AM »
http://men.msn.com/staticslideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=5864039&imageindex=5



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Ron Paul
Ron Paul doesn't think you should have to pay taxes. That idea, along with a host of others geared towards the younger vote (he also wants to abolish the war on drugs) and you've got an Internet king-in-the-making whose YouTube presence has drawn in viewers by the millions even without an Obama Girl singing his praises. It's no surprise that he raised $4.2 million in one day on the Web (a record), $10 million in the third quarter alone, and is the single-most searched candidate online. Now, the Republican congressman from Texas has to find a way to translate that success into votes in a political climate where any association with the George W. State fuels already enflamed angst.

Gay Boy

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1914 on: December 21, 2007, 12:55:17 AM »
FoC know who else is on that list?

Perez Hilton
http://men.msn.com/staticslideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=5864039&imageindex=8



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Mario Armando Lavandeira Jr., gossip blogger (perezhilton.com) and "Queen of All Media," made headlines this year by announcing the death of Cuban President Fidel Castro. Whether there's some kind of Weekend at Bernie's thing going on there, Castro still claims to be alive. But in the world of online gossip, it's never a good idea to let the facts get in the way of good page views, and on that subject, Lavandeira is a master. Who knew that by drawing fourth grade-level insults on celebrity photos (white dots below Christian Slater's nose, "Gay Face" next to Paris Hilton's new boyfriend), gossip mongers and advertisers by the millions—not to mention VH1—would come calling. It only gets more ridiculous on YouTube, where he regularly broadcasts his latest whims and sing-alongs.
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Van Cruncheon

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1915 on: December 21, 2007, 12:56:21 AM »
tom delay is one of many folks who abused their power in the house of representatives; let's abolish it! oh, and look at that ted kennedy! let's abolish the senate! junior and his cabinet? let's abolish the executive branch!

federal government is down; ron paul wins!

oops, look at all those state and city officials abusing their offices; time to abolish them! and why, just a few weeks ago here in my town of bothell, wa, two councilmen were caught taking bribes! abolish your local seats!

looks like anarchy! where's my guns -- oh, wait, we abused them, and they got abolished! bobobobo RON PAUL DIDN'T SUPPORT GUN CONTROL HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN

common sense got abused by the lolbertarians and ron paul, so it got abolished early on :gloomy
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FlameOfCallandor

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1916 on: December 21, 2007, 12:56:43 AM »
FoC know who else is on that list?

Perez Hilton
http://men.msn.com/staticslideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=5864039&imageindex=8


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Phoenix Dark

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1917 on: December 21, 2007, 12:57:29 AM »
I don't think the CIA would be undirty under Ron Paul.  The whole purpose of the organization is to subvert the law; the current administration has just given them a heads up to be more public about their activities.

The CIA would probably assassinate Paul, or let him get assassinated
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Gay Boy

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1918 on: December 21, 2007, 12:58:14 AM »
FoC know who else is on that list?

Perez Hilton
http://men.msn.com/staticslideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=5864039&imageindex=8


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wtf are you spamming about? I did the exact same post as you but with a different man from your very list. A man that proves the list is stupid. PEREZ HILTON!
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: The Ron Paul Shitheap of repeated FoC ownage and ignorance
« Reply #1919 on: December 21, 2007, 01:00:39 AM »
Paul was influential, no point in arguing over shit like that. So was Perez

It doesn't mean he'll get 5% of the vote in Iowa or NH
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