Official 2008 Election thread

[Phoenix Dark]

That story is VERY VERY VERY old. I heard about it ages ago. It gained no media traction at all.


Edit: ugh. Did you even read the date of the article?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268762,00.html
Thursday, April 26, 2007

I told you it was old and got no media traction.

Owned 

People are scared of Huckabee

[brawndolicious]

why are you laughing?  are you distinguished mentally-challenged?  you have to be a pretty fucked up father to have kids like that.

[Gay Boy]

Al Gore's son is just as much a fuckup.

[APF]

Des Moines Register endorses Clinton, McCain

Clinton endorsement

McCain endorsement

[brawndolicious]

Al Gore's son is just as much a fuckup.

how?

[Gay Boy]

Des Moines Register endorses Clinton, McCain

Clinton endorsement

McCain endorsement

This was a surprise for Hillary. And if anyone remembers in '04 Edwards got a big boost from the De Moines endorsement.

Edit: Gore's son is a big drug user and gotten arrested a few times.

[brawndolicious]

..that's not comparable to that.

[Phoenix Dark]

..that's not comparable to that.

Dude would you let it die? The story is old as hell, no one cares, and it has nothing to do with Huckabee's campaign. And if you don't think he could talk his way out of this you're mad.

1998 people...

[brawndolicious]

yeah I'm sure they're rehabilitated.

[Phoenix Dark]

And I'm pretty sure that's irrelevent. The people supporting Huckabee right now won't be moved by an almost decade old story that has magically appeared now that he's a contender.

[Gay Boy]

On Sunday, former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, who is remaining neutral in the GOP primary race, called Huckabee’s Foreign Affairs comments “unwarranted and unwise.”

“There is much to like about Mike Huckabee. But he will serve Republican primary voters, and our nation, better if he focused his criticisms on the Democrats who will run against our eventual nominee and not on the President who has kept us safe,” said Fleischer.

Huckabee's response?
''I don’t have anything to apologize for''

[Gay Boy]

Hahah wtf HW Bush would do this to his son? 

From CNN:

Former President Bill Clinton said Monday that the first thing his wife Hillary will do when she reaches the White House is dispatch him and his predecessor, President George H.W. Bush, on an around-the-world mission to repair the damage done to America's reputation by the current president — Bush's son, George W. Bush.

"Well, the first thing she intends to do, because you can do this without passing a bill, the first thing she intends to do is to send me and former President Bush and a number of other people around the world to tell them that America is open for business and cooperation again," Clinton said in response to a question from a supporter about what his wife's "number one priority" would be as president.

[Phoenix Dark]

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I want to eat a hotdog and drink eggnog with this man

[brawndolicious]

I just found out that one of huckabee's sons accidentally tried carrying a loaded handgun past airport security last year...

this is going to be worse than the bush twins.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I just found out that one of huckabee's sons accidentally tried carrying a loaded handgun past airport security last year...

this is going to be worse than the bush twins.

Vote for Ron Paul in the primaries!

[Gay Boy]

I just found out that one of huckabee's sons accidentally tried carrying a loaded handgun past airport security last year...

this is going to be worse than the bush twins.

Vote for Ron Paul in the primaries!

None of us are republicans fool.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I just found out that one of huckabee's sons accidentally tried carrying a loaded handgun past airport security last year...

this is going to be worse than the bush twins.

Vote for Ron Paul in the primaries!

None of us are republicans fool.

I thought you said most of his support came from the left? 

[brawndolicious]

I'm a registered democrat.  hopefully I'm not too late for turning in my paperwork to be an election officer.  I will try to dissuade as many people as I can from voting for ron paul (really doesn't matter because california is a blue state because we aren't ass backwards).

[FlameOfCallandor]

I'm a registered democrat.  hopefully I'm not too late for turning in my paperwork to be an election officer.  I will try to dissuade as many people as I can from voting for ron paul (really doesn't matter because california is a blue state because we aren't ass backwards).

Except Ron Paul won the California Straw Polls. In fact they had to cancel the San Fransisco one because of too many Ron Paul supporters. Hmmm...

[Phoenix Dark]

Paul came in third in his own state's straw poll, which tells us all we need to know



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WHO WILL THIS BE IN 2008? 

[Van Cruncheon]

california isn't so much a blue state as it is a MAKE MONEY AND DON'T FUCKING LECTURE ME ABOUT MORALITY state -- see: arnie's success as a republican. sadly, foc's got the right of this one.

[brawndolicious]

well fuck me, I'm not voting for him.  and Ahnuld has a funny tummy, that has to count for something.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Paul came in third in his own state's straw poll, which tells us all we need to know

You didnt hear about the Scandal? They wouldnt let in half of the Ron Paul supporters. Check out the youtube video.

[FlameOfCallandor]

well fuck me, I'm not voting for him.  and Ahnuld has a funny tummy, that has to count for something.

There is a strong libertarian following out west.

[Van Cruncheon]

and new mexico! and, sadly, all the rural parts of washington. thank god for the east coast and its low lolbertarian nutfuck quotient.

[FlameOfCallandor]

People like freedom. what can I say?

[Van Cruncheon]

People like freedom. what can I say?

no-one's disputing that. everyone wants to be granted the ability to be stupid at the expense of others and the broader community. in fact, you're doing it right now!

[FlameOfCallandor]

no-one's disputing that. everyone wants to be granted the ability to be stupid at the expense of others and the broader community.

Name one thing we want to do at the expense of others?

[brawndolicious]

you have dyslexia foc.

see a doctor.  specifically Dr. Kavorkian.

[Phoenix Dark]

People in Utah enjoy the freedom to marry their cousins and run meth labs in their basement.

Taking it back to 1787!

[Van Cruncheon]

no-one's disputing that. everyone wants to be granted the ability to be stupid at the expense of others and the broader community.

Name one thing we want to do at the expense of others?

move to the gold standard?

[FlameOfCallandor]

no-one's disputing that. everyone wants to be granted the ability to be stupid at the expense of others and the broader community.

Name one thing we want to do at the expense of others?

move to the gold standard?

And how would that affect you?

[brawndolicious]

And how would that affect you?

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Van Cruncheon]

no-one's disputing that. everyone wants to be granted the ability to be stupid at the expense of others and the broader community.

Name one thing we want to do at the expense of others?

move to the gold standard?

And how would that affect you?

i have stocks based in debt-based currency? you're starting to sound like a socialist, foc -- trying to do something for the broader long-term good at the expense of individuals

[FlameOfCallandor]

Fair enough. But moving to the gold standard would require alot more than just Ron Paul being president. Eventually w'll go back to a commodity standard through natural market forces anyway.

[FlameOfCallandor]

oil will be the currency.

I dont think so.

[Himu]

all the candidates suck

[FlameOfCallandor]

It sure as fuck won't be gold.

Why?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

because gold has no value outside of Charles Dickens' Christmas parables

[brawndolicious]

we are talking about a post-apocalyptic world.

after global warming.  which I believe you denied.

[FlameOfCallandor]

because gold has no value outside of Charles Dickens' Christmas parables

Oh really? It's selling over $800 an ounce. Sounds like value to me.

[FlameOfCallandor]

after global warming.  which I believe you denied.

Nope, i dont think i ever denied it.

[Gay Boy]

its about 2 weeks to Iowa and NH FoC. Are you PUMPED?

[Phoenix Dark]

because gold has no value outside of Charles Dickens' Christmas parables

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[FlameOfCallandor]

its about 2 weeks to Iowa and NH FoC. Are you PUMPED?

Yea baby! i expect top 3 in Iowa and 1st in NH.

[Gay Boy]

Woah LOOK HOW AWESOME PAUL IS DOING IN CALIFORNIA!

[FlameOfCallandor]

nicca please

[Howard Alan Treesong]

because gold has no value outside of Charles Dickens' Christmas parables

Oh really? It's selling over $800 an ounce. Sounds like value to me.

but that $800 isn't backed by gold! so really gold has no value

[Gay Boy]

nicca please

Straw polls have proven wildly inaccurate, polls have proved extremely accurate.

What to believe..hmmmmmmm

[FlameOfCallandor]

Out of curiosity, who was winning straw polls in 2003 and 1999?

[Gay Boy]

Out of curiosity, who was winning straw polls in 2003 and 1999?

At this point (2 weeks pre-Iowa) Kerry was surging in polls. Ala whats going on with Huckabee, just for Dems.

In 99 Bush had a wide lead on McCain polls, and that is how the results turned out in Iowa.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Thats not what I asked. Read my post.

[Gay Boy]

Thats not what I asked. Read my post.

Dems dont do straw polls so there were none in 2003. I dont know about 99, but it wouldn't be accurate to compare to 2008 since it wasn't a close primary at all. Bush had gigantic leads on McCain the entire campaign.

Here is a Dem poll exactly 2 weeks before Iowa:

Kerry - 24
Dean - 19
Edwards - 17

[Howard Alan Treesong]

please explain to me again how you use the value of gold under a debt-based currency to justify using gold to replace that debt-based currency

because that's a neat trick

[FlameOfCallandor]

please explain to me again how you use the value of gold under a debt-based currency to justify using gold to replace that debt-based currency

because that's a neat trick

Im not sure I understand the question. Do you want me to explain why wt will have a commodity system in the future?

[Human Snorenado]

I wonder if FoC will ever rejoin the reality based community after his hero's upcoming assured massive failure.

[FlameOfCallandor]

I wonder if Raoul will ever rejoin the job based community after his upcoming assured massive failure.

Fixed

[Fragamemnon]

please explain to me again how you use the value of gold under a debt-based currency to justify using gold to replace that debt-based currency

that won't ever happen outside of a total worldwide collapse of modern civilization and a return to basic bartering. maybe that is what foc wants anyway, given the propensity of libertarians to be intrigued by or involved with terrorist militia movements.

[Fragamemnon]

also, I am wondering if rudy will even win one state in the primaries at this point. he's on track to lose and lose and lose out of the gate, and the media will surely manufacture a good deaning of him at some point-every good primary season has some sort of nearly comedic implosion.

i also can't help but think that the GOP convention is going to devolve into something unspeakably nasty if mitt and huck split things down the middle. good thing ron paul is in the toilet though-with his supporters in the convention the whole thing would devolve a nasty three way battlefield with lots of guns and pipe bombs.

[Human Snorenado]

I wonder if Raoul will ever rejoin the job based community after his upcoming assured massive failure.

Fixed

*yawn*

I am debt free, have pretty much constant freelance work and will probably be buying a house sometime next year.  I don't technically have a "job" but have been thinking about starting my own company lately.  So, nice try douchenozzle, but no.