Himumumu goes to Mecca

[brawndolicious]

Well, a lot of Muslims aren't taking their religion words to words, even in the east.
besides, The Quran isn't the only thing, you have the Prophet messages as well, and i am pretty sure you can find messages of him explaining the hijab business in simple words.

right but I hate the idea of a convert spontaneously 'agreeing' with every damn thing about a religion.

*looks down a few posts*

what the fuck is wrong with you himu?  I blame a lot of my unattraction to ME girls on the fact that I never saw their cleavage ffs!

I'll just say this.  please all women show your boobs and make your boobies big.

[MCD]

 

[Himu]

what the fuck is wrong with you himu?  I blame a lot of my unattraction to ME girls on the fact that I never saw their cleavage ffs!

I'll just say this.  please all women show your boobs and make your boobies big.

What is wrong with that? I have a thing for women who respect themselves and when you wear Hijab it basically forces you - the male - to look at more than her tits and ass. I find it extremely attractive, plus, I have a thing for women who dress modestly than women who always show their tits.

[bagofeyes]

what the fuck is wrong with you himu?  I blame a lot of my unattraction to ME girls on the fact that I never saw their cleavage ffs!

I'll just say this.  please all women show your boobs and make your boobies big.

What is wrong with that? I have a thing for women who respect themselves and when you wear Hijab it basically forces you - the male - to look at more than her tits and ass. I find it extremely attractive, plus, I have a thing for women who dress modestly than women who always show their tits.

You sound like a perverted salaryman

[Mupepe]

what the fuck is wrong with you himu?  I blame a lot of my unattraction to ME girls on the fact that I never saw their cleavage ffs!

I'll just say this.  please all women show your boobs and make your boobies big.

What is wrong with that? I have a thing for women who respect themselves and when you wear Hijab it basically forces you - the male - to look at more than her tits and ass. I find it extremely attractive, plus, I have a thing for women who dress modestly than women who always show their tits.

I think that's more of a self control issue that you'll outgrow

but good job on seeing the difference!

[Himu]

I don't know why the white people in this thread are all going "why would you want to learn your history?" which is a stupid question if you ask me. Even TVC, who apparently has taken his hsitory for granted, knows he's Irish. I don't even know one thing about my ancestors except that they were black, not even what country they're from.

Sometimes people would like to know more than what color their ancestors were since they see them as individuals who could have possibly did interesting things. Finding out they could possibly be Muslim is just interesting because I found an extra link that connects us.

I refuse at acknowledge the basis of my history as slavery. Fuck you.

[Mupepe]

my ancestors were mostly killing buffalo and scalping white men   savages

[Himu]

I have Cherokee blood myself. *beats chest*

[Mupepe]

I have Cherokee blood myself. *beats chest*

well i have that and then I have South American/Central American Indian blood.  They were some crazy fucks.

[Himu]

lol

No wonder you have that wild frizzy hair. That's obviously a Cherokee indian trait. I'm hairy as fuck.

[bagofeyes]

I've got Kentucky blood in me. And my Kentucky cousins sent me a shirt for Christmas that says 'Kentucky - bluegrass state.' And it's way too big.

[Powerslave]

From what I understood, it seems to me that Himuro is just unhappy with his current life/belief and is looking for a piece of mind. If he's attracted to islam, why bother 'convincing' him that religion is not the way to go? Some of you guys try way too hard. Just let the man be and explore things on his own before enforcing your superior atheist opinion upon him.

[Himu]

Powerslave aka my number one online buddy

[MrAngryFace]

he's unhappy because he walks through drive thrus in the middle of the night. There's some ISSUES at play here that dont have anything to do with organized religion

[bagofeyes]

He's old enough to make his own decisions, isn't he? What's wrong with checking it out if he has an interest in it?

[Himu]

he's unhappy because he walks through drive thrus in the middle of the night. There's some ISSUES at play here that dont have anything to do with organized religion

 

[Phoenix Dark]

I refuse at acknowledge the basis of my history as slavery. Fuck you.

QFMFT

[Mupepe]

I refuse at acknowledge the basis of my history as slavery. Fuck you.

QFMFT

Im renting a big ship as we speak 

[FlameOfCallandor]

Does Himumu X go to Minnesota?

http://digg.com/educational/Muslims_take_over_meditation_room_at_a_Minnesota_college

Muslims take over "meditation room" at a Minnesota college

The room is now split into male and female sections, and features arrows pointing to Mecca, literature describing proper behavior for women ("They should cover their faces and stay at home... [their speech should not] be such that it is heard") and for all Muslims ("the Jews and the Christians" are described as "the enemies of Allaah's religion.")

[TVC15]

From what I understood, it seems to me that Himuro is just unhappy with his current life/belief and is looking for a piece of mind. If he's attracted to islam, why bother 'convincing' him that religion is not the way to go? Some of you guys try way too hard. Just let the man be and explore things on his own before enforcing your superior atheist opinion upon him.

In the end, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.  So it goes and all of that.  I just looked at it as a sort of personal duty to try to get him to look at other options rather than have him settle on the first thing he looked at.  Was it not I that mentioned Bahai and eastern religions?  You're being dishonest if you say that I tried only to foist atheism on him; on the contrary, I emphasized the importance of searching good and deeply, so please do not try and paint me any other way.

[Van Cruncheon]

I don't know why the white people in this thread are all going "why would you want to learn your history?" which is a stupid question if you ask me. Even TVC, who apparently has taken his hsitory for granted, knows he's Irish. I don't even know one thing about my ancestors except that they were black, not even what country they're from.

Sometimes people would like to know more than what color their ancestors were since they see them as individuals who could have possibly did interesting things. Finding out they could possibly be Muslim is just interesting because I found an extra link that connects us.

I refuse at acknowledge the basis of my history as slavery. Fuck you.

i don't care if my ancestors were slaves, or if they were kings, or farmers, or merchants. i simply don't fuckin' care what they did, because they are FUCKING DEAD and my identity is defined 100% by me me me me me me. i have no such gaping void in my sense of identity that i need to fill it with a contrived sense of genealogical history, which means fuckall in these modern times. it MIGHT matter if i could stand to inherit something, or if identification with something in the past conferred benefits upon me in the modern age, but since it doesn't: WTF. why would i waste my time -- i've got a life in the PRESENT to sort out!

[FlameOfCallandor]

i don't care if my ancestors were slaves, or if they were kings, or farmers, or merchants. i simply don't fuckin' care what they did, because they are FUCKING DEAD and my identity is defined 100% by society society society society society society.

Fixed for 100% drinky accuracy.

[Van Cruncheon]

identity != freedoms, dipshit.

[FlameOfCallandor]

identity != freedoms, dipshit.

b-b-b-but we are not in a vacuum!!!

[Himu]

From what I understood, it seems to me that Himuro is just unhappy with his current life/belief and is looking for a piece of mind. If he's attracted to islam, why bother 'convincing' him that religion is not the way to go? Some of you guys try way too hard. Just let the man be and explore things on his own before enforcing your superior atheist opinion upon him.

In the end, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.  So it goes and all of that.  I just looked at it as a sort of personal duty to try to get him to look at other options rather than have him settle on the first thing he looked at.  Was it not I that mentioned Bahai and eastern religions?  You're being dishonest if you say that I tried only to foist atheism on him; on the contrary, I emphasized the importance of searching good and deeply, so please do not try and paint me any other way.

I can tell you this right now I know that the eastern religions do nothing for me. However, it's true I don't know much about Bahai. In fact, I just recently learned about it.

[Powerslave]

In the end, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.  So it goes and all of that.  I just looked at it as a sort of personal duty to try to get him to look at other options rather than have him settle on the first thing he looked at.  Was it not I that mentioned Bahai and eastern religions?  You're being dishonest if you say that I tried only to foist atheism on him; on the contrary, I emphasized the importance of searching good and deeply, so please do not try and paint me any other way.

I didn't single you out.

Also I'm gonna give the worst analogy ever and don't know if it will fit in with this but w/e.

Let's say I like Heavy Metal and want to explore the genre further, and because I am already somewhat familiar with the genre I want to try Black Metal (ist krieg). Then some jackass comes in and says "NO why black metal? Why not try jazzmusic or big band?".
This wouldn't make much sense since it would be something I must completely start at the beginning with again, and doesn't have much connection to my current taste.

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lulz, I hope this doesn't sound stupid

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[Mupepe]

I don't know why the white people in this thread are all going "why would you want to learn your history?" which is a stupid question if you ask me. Even TVC, who apparently has taken his hsitory for granted, knows he's Irish. I don't even know one thing about my ancestors except that they were black, not even what country they're from.

Sometimes people would like to know more than what color their ancestors were since they see them as individuals who could have possibly did interesting things. Finding out they could possibly be Muslim is just interesting because I found an extra link that connects us.

I refuse at acknowledge the basis of my history as slavery. Fuck you.

i don't care if my ancestors were slaves, or if they were kings, or farmers, or merchants. i simply don't fuckin' care what they did, because they are FUCKING DEAD and my identity is defined 100% by me me me me me me. i have no such gaping void in my sense of identity that i need to fill it with a contrived sense of genealogical history, which means fuckall in these modern times. it MIGHT matter if i could stand to inherit something, or if identification with something in the past conferred benefits upon me in the modern age, but since it doesn't: WTF. why would i waste my time -- i've got a life in the PRESENT to sort out!

proof that once again, i should be fucking and dating prole

[Phoenix Dark]

From what I understood, it seems to me that Himuro is just unhappy with his current life/belief and is looking for a piece of mind. If he's attracted to islam, why bother 'convincing' him that religion is not the way to go? Some of you guys try way too hard. Just let the man be and explore things on his own before enforcing your superior atheist opinion upon him.

In the end, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.  So it goes and all of that.  I just looked at it as a sort of personal duty to try to get him to look at other options rather than have him settle on the first thing he looked at.  Was it not I that mentioned Bahai and eastern religions?  You're being dishonest if you say that I tried only to foist atheism on him; on the contrary, I emphasized the importance of searching good and deeply, so please do not try and paint me any other way.

I can tell you this right now I know that the eastern religions do nothing for me. However, it's true I don't know much about Bahai. In fact, I just recently learned about it.

Maybe when your muslim contract expires you can sign with Bahai; I hear there's a hefty signing bonus, and you'll definitely be a star

[Tauntaun]

In the end, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.  So it goes and all of that.  I just looked at it as a sort of personal duty to try to get him to look at other options rather than have him settle on the first thing he looked at.  Was it not I that mentioned Bahai and eastern religions?  You're being dishonest if you say that I tried only to foist atheism on him; on the contrary, I emphasized the importance of searching good and deeply, so please do not try and paint me any other way.

I didn't single you out.

Also I'm gonna give the worst analogy ever and don't know if it will fit in with this but w/e.

Let's say I like Heavy Metal and want to explore the genre further, and because I am already somewhat familiar with the genre I want to try Black Metal (ist krieg). Then some jackass comes in and says "NO why black metal? Why not try jazzmusic or big band?".
This wouldn't make much sense since it would be something I must completely start at the beginning with again, and doesn't have much connection to my current taste.

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lulz, I hope this doesn't sound stupid

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Well, black metalz sucks donkey dick balls so I'd say your friend was a good one. 

[Himu]

From what I understood, it seems to me that Himuro is just unhappy with his current life/belief and is looking for a piece of mind. If he's attracted to islam, why bother 'convincing' him that religion is not the way to go? Some of you guys try way too hard. Just let the man be and explore things on his own before enforcing your superior atheist opinion upon him.

In the end, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.  So it goes and all of that.  I just looked at it as a sort of personal duty to try to get him to look at other options rather than have him settle on the first thing he looked at.  Was it not I that mentioned Bahai and eastern religions?  You're being dishonest if you say that I tried only to foist atheism on him; on the contrary, I emphasized the importance of searching good and deeply, so please do not try and paint me any other way.

I can tell you this right now I know that the eastern religions do nothing for me. However, it's true I don't know much about Bahai. In fact, I just recently learned about it.

Maybe when your muslim contract expires you can sign with Bahai; I hear there's a hefty signing bonus, and you'll definitely be a star

Don't joke about Muslim contracts and the like. I haven't even become a Muslim.

[Powerslave]

Well, black metalz sucks donkey dick balls so I'd say your friend was a good one. 

yeah black metal sucks ass

but I think its a somewhat good analogy

[Van Cruncheon]

identity != freedoms, dipshit.

b-b-b-but we are not in a vacuum!!!

i'm pretty sure you don't know how to read for comprehension, hick.

but, since i've apparently taken on your education: my sense of identity does not correlate with my ability to act within society. you do the math.

[TVC15]

Above all things, I only bow before one master. . .

[Van Cruncheon]

i'm still partial to david hume

[TVC15]

I like Hume, but so many greats came after him, with more interesting ideas.

I like Jung's Special Skill:

[Himu]

lmao @ jung's weakness and special skills

[TVC15]

Lacan also has teh lol

[brawndolicious]

Does Himumu X go to Minnesota?

http://digg.com/educational/Muslims_take_over_meditation_room_at_a_Minnesota_college

Muslims take over "meditation room" at a Minnesota college

The room is now split into male and female sections, and features arrows pointing to Mecca, literature describing proper behavior for women ("They should cover their faces and stay at home... [their speech should not] be such that it is heard") and for all Muslims ("the Jews and the Christians" are described as "the enemies of Allaah's religion.")

right on that page dumbshit:

"[T]he Jews and the Christians" are described as "the enemies of Allaah's religion." The document adds: "Remember that you will never succeed while you follow these people."

This was either made up by the writer (who doesn't even know how to spell ISLAM) or by some pissed of extremist because the Quran teaches the opposite. It teaches to respect other religions.

I am a muslim and if someone offered me ANY pork products, which, by the way happens quite a bit with co-workers and friends I would just say "no thanks". It wouldn't even offend me a bit. I would probably laugh at someone trying to use a bacon strip to teach me a lesson.

like I said, before you talk about islam again, talk to a mullah.  ask what islam teaches.  then you won't have ignorant views on anything.  or at least you'll know for sure you're ignorant.

[Himu]

I suggest FoC read this book:



It confronts many Muslim stereotypes and tells what Muslims believe. It's pretty short too. I'm half way through in about 2 days.

[Phoenix Dark]

I suggest FoC read this book:

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It confronts many Muslim stereotypes and tells what Muslims believe. It's pretty short too. I'm half way through in about 2 days.

Bigots don't read material that contradicts their world-view, don't waste your time

[brawndolicious]

I think he might have some sort of dyslexia or something because he really doesn't get the sorts of things he reads according to...well pretty much any thread he's posted in.

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plus he's a closed-minded bigot.  As Nick Naylor says, he makes and "argument not a negotiation".

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[Barry Egan]

Above all things, I only bow before one master. . .

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Have you read the History of Sexuality?  Changed my life, but I haven't gotten around to reading his other works.  What would you recommend?

[FlameOfCallandor]

I suggest FoC read this book:

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It confronts many Muslim stereotypes and tells what Muslims believe. It's pretty short too. I'm half way through in about 2 days.

Send it to me when you are done and I promise to read it.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Bigots don't read material that contradicts their world-view, don't waste your time

Good thing im not a bigot, or close minded.

[Van Cruncheon]

i have not read any foucault, sadly. someone loan me one of his books!

[FlameOfCallandor]

i have not read any foucault, sadly. someone loan me one of his books!

can we have an evilbore book exchange?

[Van Cruncheon]

i have not read any foucault, sadly. someone loan me one of his books!

can we have an evilbore book exchange?

if we do, there will be no ayn rand allowed, because we are not alienated teenagers

[FlameOfCallandor]

i have not read any foucault, sadly. someone loan me one of his books!

can we have an evilbore book exchange?

if we do, there will be no ayn rand allowed, because we are not alienated teenagers

Make it happen. I promise no Ayn rand. And I promise to read the muslim book first.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'll send FoC my copy of The Noosphere vs The Blogosphere: Is the Devil in Your Labtop? by Lyndon Lacouche

[Himu]

I suggest FoC read this book:

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It confronts many Muslim stereotypes and tells what Muslims believe. It's pretty short too. I'm half way through in about 2 days.

Send it to me when you are done and I promise to read it.

sure thing

[TVC15]

Above all things, I only bow before one master. . .

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Have you read the History of Sexuality?  Changed my life, but I haven't gotten around to reading his other works.  What would you recommend?

Discipline & Punish is (my opinion) his best book as it is probably the least purely theoretical and most practical of all his books.  At least as practical as Foucault can be.  

I go with either Discipline and Punish or Madness and Civilization.  I think the first volume of A History of Sexuality is probably the best introduction to Foucault, but I think he was operating on a subjective level for too many parts of it, making it kind of not useful. I think Discipline and Punish is the most interesting, Madness and Civilization is the best distillation of his important ideas (and pretty interesting).  Birth of the Clinic is a sorta follow-up to Madness and Civilization and it is also good in a more of the same way, although I guess it is more concerned with spelling out his methodology than Madness and Civilization, which was more like an example of his methodology.

[Mupepe]

[FlameOfCallandor]

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Do you read Michael Savage?

[Mupepe]

Yes.  I love Michael Savage

[FlameOfCallandor]

Yes.  I love Michael Savage

Serious?

[FlameOfCallandor]

Are you conservative?

[Mupepe]

Yes.  While I disagree some of his rhetoric.  I think he has generally the right idea regarding a lot of things.  He's just a little crazy and outlandish and takes it to the extreme sometimes.

[Flannel Boy]

Above all things, I only bow before one master. . .

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Have you read the History of Sexuality?  Changed my life, but I haven't gotten around to reading his other works.  What would you recommend?

[AdmiralViscen]

I saw this on SA

[Barry Egan]

Above all things, I only bow before one master. . .

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Have you read the History of Sexuality?  Changed my life, but I haven't gotten around to reading his other works.  What would you recommend?

  Foucault is undeniable