Tipping

[CurseoftheGods]

So I got into sort of an awkward situation. My friends and I ordered a pizza last week from a local pizza joint, but in the end couldn't come up with enough money to tip the driver. We usually do tip (~$5), but we ran short on cash this time. So we decide to order one today for lunch and I got this comment from the other side of the phone, "Don't forget to tip the driver. We don't like cheap people spending less than what they already have". Wtf?

It kind of caught me by surprise, and I didn't get the chance to reply. I almost don't want to tip the driver after hearing that being said. What do you guys think? 

[DJ_Tet]

They shouldn't have said that.

That said, I wouldn't order from there again because there's no telling what the driver might do to your food.

[Mupepe]

Wow, fuck that place.  Like FA said, they'll probably shit in your food or something.  Not to mention, you don't really owe them anything.  Tipping is an out of the kindness of your heart type thing.  Fuck them

[CajoleJuice]

Yeah, fuck that shit.

[Himu]

i tip only when the service is adaquete but after reading nickel and dimed i kinda feel required to tip

[cloudwalking]

man i love how you are under no obligation to tip anyone here unless you want to.

i remember moving from canada to the US and going out to get my haircut. my mom shouts out the door after me "don't forget to tip the hairdresser! they do that here in america you know!"

tip the hairdresser? tip a fucking hairdresser, really? that is some bullshit right there.

[Rman]

I tip all the time.  I usually give a 30 percent tip.  I worked in the industry and you make no money at all.  That said the best workers should never expect a tip.

[The Fake Shemp]

Shut the fuck up, foreigner.

[Himu]

I TIP MY BARBER ALL THE TIME

clearly cloud isn't cut out to be an american

[MrAngryFace]

with gas the way it is its a good idea to tip the driver

[Mupepe]

man i love how you are under no obligation to tip anyone here unless you want to.

i remember moving from canada to the US and going out to get my haircut. my mom shouts out the door after me "don't forget to tip the hairdresser! they do that here in america you know!"

tip the hairdresser? tip a fucking hairdresser, really? that is some bullshit right there.

fuck that.  I don't tip unless I feel like they've earned it or say my pizza actually arrives early.  I'm not going to tip for shitty or average service.  Fuck them up the ass.

[Rman]

man i love how you are under no obligation to tip anyone here unless you want to.

i remember moving from canada to the US and going out to get my haircut. my mom shouts out the door after me "don't forget to tip the hairdresser! they do that here in america you know!"

tip the hairdresser? tip a fucking hairdresser, really? that is some bullshit right there.

I never knew for the longest time that you needed to tip barbers.

[Rman]

What do you guys think of restaurants that add the service change to your bill?

[Himu]

who the fuck does that rman

[Flannel Boy]

Don't listen to that expatriate; we tip our barbers in Canada. I generally give a tip of at least 20%.

[Rman]

who the fuck does that rman

I lot of restaurants do that.  Especially if you are there with a big group of people. 

[y2kev]

My roommate doesn't tip and I always get my food faster

plus I imagine the things they do to his food 

[Mupepe]

who the fuck does that rman

I lot of restaurants do that.  Especially if you are there with a big group of people. 

Generally restaurants that do this are restaurants who push for quality servers so I generally don't mind.  But if places like applebee's or chili's started doing it, I'd fuck someone up the ass with spork because I'll be damned if I'm forced to tip someone for shit service

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I would not order from that place again. Or even eat the pizza that was delivered to you. They absolutely, 100% have done something to it.

Not tipping sucks, but keeping weird records and making veiled threats its worse.

[MrAngryFace]

GAS is the reason to tip pizza delivery guy. In most situation he buys his own gas, or if its paid for by the company its still technically out of his pocket. Tip the goddamned delivery guy. Pizza a little late? How the flying fuck do you know its cause of the delivery guy. Maybe its cause you ordered pizza on a night when ever Soccer Mom in town decides to get lazy.

[CajoleJuice]

What kind of commie doesn't tip their hairdresser/barber?

[Eric P]

i tip because those jobs suck

[CurseoftheGods]

My friend ended up paying by debit. He gave him a $1.90 tip to make the bill $16 even, lol. I heard the delivery guy's voice, and I am sure he's the same guy that spoke with me over the phone. He didn't seem upset when he left.

I think I am going to skip lunch, though. And we're definitely not ordering from that place again.

[Mupepe]

Most pizza delivery guys in my area are mexican.  gotta help muh bruthas out

p.s. i really don't care if those jobs suck.  I still tip based on if they do a good job and how nice they are.  Granted, I don't think I've ever ordered and not tipped, but I will make it worth their time if they're personable and I get my shit in a timely manner

[CajoleJuice]

That was such a stupid move. Doing shit to food is one thing, but to give the customer any indication that it's likely is just stupid.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

BJs are not a tip, mups

also, I would talk to the manager about that comment (seriously)--that's really creepy, and he probably wants to remind his drivers NOT TO THREATEN CUSTOMERS DIRECTLY

[Mupepe]

BJs are not a tip, mups

wrong.  it usually consists of a tip in a mouth

[Howard Alan Treesong]

we would have also accepted jokes about a "reservoir" tip

[cloudwalking]

sure you guys can tip your barbers when you pay 7.50 for a haircut, but when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

[Eric P]

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

no

they are giving you a chance at a NEW LIFE that can ONLY come from a new haircut

[Howard Alan Treesong]

when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

I feel the same way about tipping strippers in the VIP room

all you are doing is sitting around on my lap

[Bloodwake]

sure you guys can tip your barbers when you pay 7.50 for a haircut, but when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

I'm sorry, that's a ridiculous amount to pay for any haircut ever.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

sure you guys can tip your barbers when you pay 7.50 for a haircut, but when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

I'm sorry, that's a ridiculous amount to pay for any haircut ever.

it's not on her HEAD

word gets around, and they charge a lot now before they'll take a weed whacker to cloud here

[Himu]

lmao cheebs am topped

[Rman]

sure you guys can tip your barbers when you pay 7.50 for a haircut, but when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

Jeez, 125.00 dollars.  Wow.

[brawndolicious]

I usually tip 10% to delivery drivers.  If I'm going out with friends to a restaruant, usually each of us giving $1 makes it a decent tip.  One time my friends and I had between us $0.03 more than the price of the pizza we ordered and we gave that extra to the delivery guy.  He was pissed.

[DJ_Tet]

GAS is the reason to tip pizza delivery guy. In most situation he buys his own gas, or if its paid for by the company its still technically out of his pocket. Tip the goddamned delivery guy. Pizza a little late? How the flying fuck do you know its cause of the delivery guy. Maybe its cause you ordered pizza on a night when ever Soccer Mom in town decides to get lazy.

This too.

If you can't afford to tip, order carryout.

[cloudwalking]

sure you guys can tip your barbers when you pay 7.50 for a haircut, but when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

I'm sorry, that's a ridiculous amount to pay for any haircut ever.

it's not on her HEAD

word gets around, and they charge a lot now before they'll take a weed whacker to cloud here

hey now, i may live in europe but i sure haven't adopted their lack of pubic hair maintenance habits

oh wait, that's japan

[Tauntaun]

sure you guys can tip your barbers when you pay 7.50 for a haircut, but when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

I'm sorry, that's a ridiculous amount to pay for any haircut ever.

it's not on her HEAD

word gets around, and they charge a lot now before they'll take a weed whacker to cloud here

 

[balikeye]

Along this line...I remember having a discussion over tipping with a friend of mine quite a few years ago.

First, we discussed if it's more polite to always tip in cash. Say you have a $30 dollar restaurant bill and you pay with a credit card. Is it more considerate to leave cash for the tip, or is it ok to just include the tip on the credit card? He was saying that when you pay with credit card, the tip is automatically taxed. Where as if it's cash, it's really up to the waiter/ess to claim it as income. Hence, it's more polite to always leave the tip as cash. 

Then that lead to a discussion about a scenario where you really don't have enough for a proper tip. Say your bill comes to $28.36 and all you have is $30. He argued that it's more of a slap in a face to leave the $1.64 than just to not leave a tip at all.  He said it was especially bad form to leave any pennies included in the tip. I argued that money is money, and even though I might feel insulted, I'd still rather have some money than none.

Any thoughts?

[DJ_Tet]

I don't agree that leaving 'change' is bad form in tipping, as long as it's not all that's there.  I round up on most of my restaurant tabs but I don't just leave 64 cents or whatever, it's like $3.64~

I hadn't thought about the tax issue, that sounds reasonable but I'm not carrying cash just for tips.  If you're in the service industry, you should report at least SOME of your taxable gains just for your own protection.

[Mupepe]

Yeah, I'll leave what I can.  be offended if you'd like, you don't have to fucking take it.

and if all I have is my debit/credit card, you better not fucking bitch.

[tiesto]

sure you guys can tip your barbers when you pay 7.50 for a haircut, but when i am paying 120 dollars for a cut and highlights and am still expected to tip 15%, you can fuck right off.

all you are doing is standing around and cutting hair

I'm sorry, that's a ridiculous amount to pay for any haircut ever.

it's not on her HEAD

word gets around, and they charge a lot now before they'll take a weed whacker to cloud here

hey now, i may live in europe but i sure haven't adopted their lack of pubic hair maintenance habits

oh wait, that's japan

:buys plane ticket to Japan:

[Mupepe]

lol fur burger

[drew]

i tip because those jobs suck

Lol, it's better than risking life and limb in a meat department every day.  Not to mention being elbow deep (literally) in slimy raw chicken breasts every 3 days.

Give me a fuckin break.  I'd love to just drive around, smoke cigarettes, and listen to Dire Straights delivering pizzas.   

[DJ_Tet]

Then get a car and do it.  There are always PLENTY of openings for delivery drivers in my area.

I felt like I ran my car into the ground and barely made ends meet, and that was when gas was $1.10 a gal.  I can't imagine what they make now.

[max_cool]

what kind of fuck face doesn't tip?

oh

Mupepe 

Lol, it's better than risking life and limb in a meat department every day.  Not to mention being elbow deep (literally) in slimy raw chicken breasts every 3 days.

Give me a fuckin break.  I'd love to just drive around, smoke cigarettes, and listen to Dire Straights delivering pizzas.

Then why not get a job delivering pizza? It's not hard. I know why, it's because it sucks and pays for shit.
The wear and tear on the car, the gas, being the one who has to deal with pissed off customers, getting stuck with the shitty kitchen jobs (dishes and mopping, oh and cleaning bathrooms). A real fucking dream job!

[drew]

OK, I take that back.  I kind of like being the neighborhood deli/steak guy.  That, and I'm trying to sleep with one of the checkout girls. 
Cleaning a pizza place can't be that bad.  Try your hand at cleaning a meat department at the end of the day, scraping dead animal off the floor and disinfecting everything 

[Mupepe]

Then get a car and do it.  There are always PLENTY of openings for delivery drivers in my area.

I felt like I ran my car into the ground and barely made ends meet, and that was when gas was $1.10 a gal.  I can't imagine what they make now.

eh, I understand it sucks.  But there are worse jobs.  That kind of job is not meant to really support you for a long period of time, you should be looking for something else or trying to move up in that kind of job.  I don't have much sympathy.  

Max_Cool: I never said I don't tip.  I always tip actually.  But I don't feel sorry for these people.  Sorry.  I did the job for 2 years.  Find something else.

[DJ_Tet]

No doubt there are worse jobs, but if you want food brought to your place, you better tip.  You know why?  Because if no one tipped, no one would do that job.  It would go away.

They would have to go get better jobs, and you'd have to get your fat ass off the couch and go get food.

[Mupepe]

No doubt there are worse jobs, but if you want food brought to your place, you better tip.  You know why?  Because if no one tipped, no one would do that job.  It would go away.

They would have to go get better jobs, and you'd have to get your fat ass off the couch and go get food.

No, if I want food brought to my house, I'm going to pay the delivery charge and whatever corporate pricing is calculated on each item from that store. 

If the guy wants a tip, my pizza won't be an hour old and he won't be a dick.

If he wants a good tip, my pizza will be on time and the guy won't be a dick.

Commies

[DJ_Tet]

lol

I mean, I know what you're saying, and I'm a big believer in service tipping, but just him getting the food to your house is a service.

The fact that he's using his own vehicle and gas to do so is what sets it apart.  You can think that the service will continue being offered by paying the 'delivery charge' but the driver rarely sees that.

There will be no driver offering his vehicle under your plan.  You're lucky you're still in the minority.

[Mupepe]

lol

I mean, I know what you're saying, and I'm a big believer in service tipping, but just him getting the food to your house is a service.

The fact that he's using his own vehicle and gas to do so is what sets it apart.  You can think that the service will continue being offered by paying the 'delivery charge' but the driver rarely sees that.

There will be no driver offering his vehicle under your plan.  You're lucky you're still in the minority.

He rarely sees the delivery charge?  I don't know how it works elsewhere, but at pizza hut I got a 1.25 out of the 1.50 they charged for deliveries along with whatever tips I received. 

Sorry, there is a minimum amount of quality I expect to give a tip and I don't think I'm being too strict.  I understand that it's not always their fault which is why I give so much leeway.  and my idea of a regular tip is about 3 dollars on a ~20 dollar order and if they're good, 5-7 dollars.  I don't think that's cheap at all.  And I think for that kind of standard, I'm not asking much. 

And this idea that I should put up with a certain amount of bullshit because I want it delivered is only true to a certain extent.  If they tell me 30 minutes and I get it an hour and a half later, that's bullshit no matter what.  I'm not going to say "well at least it was delivered  lolz.  thanks for fucking me on my service."  That's the whole point of Pizza Hut's system of calculating delivery time based on drivers and the amount of orders.  If they just tell me it'll be that late, I'll gladly go pick it up.  But I'm not going to accept being ass fucked simply because your business model is outdated.

[Mupepe]

and on that note, if they tell me they're busy and it's going to be an hour and a half, that person has no reason not to tip when it shows up an hour and a half later.  if it's on time, that person deserves a tip because that 30 minute timeline is fucking hard to meet most of the time and is pretty unrealistic

[xnikki118x]

I usually tip the delivery guy like 2 bucks, more if it's a really huge order. I'm always nice and everything, too.

I tip like 20-25% usually in restaurants, unless I know the waitress or the service is really truly excellent, in which case I tip more.

What goes around comes around, people.

[Mupepe]

What goes around comes around, people.

Yup.  If I get shitty service, they're getting a shitty tip.

[DJ_Tet]

Yeah, that was the exact point I was going to make about the delivery times, you summed it up perfectly.  They are not under the driver's control and sometimes inexperienced call-centers give incorrect times.

There should not be a tip for a cold pizza that's an hour late, that's never what I was arguing.  I'm arguing against the idiots who say 'hurr it's their job to bring me a pizza, I'm not tipping.'

I wasn't saying that was you.  I'm saying the only reason someone would use their own car to deliver a pizza is the prospect of a tip, not whatever 'delivery charge' they get in addition to their wages.  If everyone stops tipping, no matter what, you can be sure every time you order a pizza it will be a 2 hour delivery time, because there will be very few people using their own vehicles for what amounts to a $7 an hour job.

[Mupepe]

Yeah definitely.  I agree that there should be a basic tip if the job is done adequately, they shouldn't have to do something outstanding to get a tip.  Although, outstanding service deserves an outstanding tip.  I still don't feel sorry for them 

[Joe Molotov]

If I go in a restaurant a lot, I generally give a decent tip because  I don't want them thinking "Oh, there come that prick who never tips, I'm going to take my time getting his refill."

If it's a place I don't go to very often unless they give me really great service, meh, they may get a dollar, they may not depending on what I have in my wallet.

[Mupepe]

If I go to a restaurant a lot, it's generally because I like it.  So I'll tip more well.. because I like it.