Author Topic: 80 GB PS3 MGS4 BUNDLE HAS BACKWARDS COMPAT. PS3 PURCHASE SOLIDIFIED (Read 8670 times)

Himu · « **on:** February 26, 2008, 05:32:37 PM »

HOLY SHIT

It has BC!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #1 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:33:34 PM »

Really? Link?

Mupepe · « **Reply #2 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:33:50 PM »

i thought 80 gb versions all had bc

Himu · « **Reply #3 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:35:23 PM »

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nmc75 | February 26th, 2008 at 11:11 am

Does the new 80gb PS3 bundle include a PS3 with backwards compatibility for PS2 games?

adeleon replied on February 26, 2008 at 12:44 pm
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Yes, similar to the Motorstorm bundle, the new MGS4 bundle features an 80GB PS3 with some PS2 backwards compatibility.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/02/26/destination-playstation-news-mgs-ps3-bundle-kratos-psp-and-dualshock3-release-date-by/#comments

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #4 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:36:04 PM »

They have software BC, not hardware BC like the 20 and 60 GB units. Software BC doesn't work with every single title.

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Yes, similar to the Motorstorm bundle, the new MGS4 bundle features an 80GB PS3 with some PS2 backwards compatibility.

Powerslave · « **Reply #5 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:36:09 PM »

will there be a GTA4 Pack? There must be, right?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #6 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:37:21 PM »

you could assume so

Himu · « **Reply #7 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:38:12 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on February 26, 2008, 05:36:04 PM

They have software BC, not hardware BC like the 20 and 60 GB units. Software BC doesn't work with every single title.

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Yes, similar to the Motorstorm bundle, the new MGS4 bundle features an 80GB PS3 with some PS2 backwards compatibility.

Nooooo :'(

I'll just get a 60 gb

The Sceneman · « **Reply #8 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:40:44 PM »

Im curious as to why PS2 BC is such a big deal, I already have a PS2 and I assume everyone else does... Is upscaling really that great a feature? PS2 already looks quite good on an HD set

calcifer · « **Reply #9 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:41:28 PM »

Quote from: Powerslave on February 26, 2008, 05:36:09 PM

will there be a GTA4 Pack? There must be, right?

gta4 will sell itself. mgs4 probably wouldn't.

calcifer · « **Reply #10 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:42:35 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 26, 2008, 05:38:12 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on February 26, 2008, 05:36:04 PM
They have software BC, not hardware BC like the 20 and 60 GB units. Software BC doesn't work with every single title.

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Yes, similar to the Motorstorm bundle, the new MGS4 bundle features an 80GB PS3 with some PS2 backwards compatibility.

Nooooo :'(

I'll just get a 60 gb

only the ps2 cpu is being software emulated, ps2 gpu is hardware even in the 80gigs so it's like 90% bc

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:44:24 PM »

Quote from: Scenester on February 26, 2008, 05:40:44 PM

Im curious as to why PS2 BC is such a big deal, I already have a PS2 and I assume everyone else does... Is upscaling really that great a feature? PS2 already looks quite good on an HD set

If I have a ps3 why would i want to have a ps2 hooked up?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #12 on:** February 26, 2008, 05:47:05 PM »

fair enough, less console clutter

Im planning to have everything hooked up when I get my new place ;(

360, Wii, PS2, Dreamcast, N64 (for F-Zero Gx and Mischief Makers) and Megadrive/Sega CD

its going to be a mess, Ive got a nice cabinet that will fit everything inside though

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #13 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:05:12 PM »

Quote from: Scenester on February 26, 2008, 05:40:44 PM

Im curious as to why PS2 BC is such a big deal, I already have a PS2 and I assume everyone else does... Is upscaling really that great a feature?

Not really. The PS3's upscaling just makes gives everything a softer look, which removes the jaggies but also make some games too blurry. Also, PS2 games with native 480P rendering look better at 480p than upscaled.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #14 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:21:19 PM »

I have hardware back compat, I can play all my ps2 games. Which is good cause PS3 games blow

The Sceneman · « **Reply #15 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:23:25 PM »

PS2 games

Powerslave · « **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:36:05 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 26, 2008, 05:42:41 PM

Quote from: Powerslave on February 26, 2008, 05:36:09 PM
will there be a GTA4 Pack? There must be, right?
No.

Fuck, my intention was to buy a Ps3_gta4 pack.

Himu · « **Reply #17 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:40:37 PM »

why would anyone buy gta4 for ps3

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #18 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:43:06 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 26, 2008, 06:40:37 PM

why would anyone buy gta4 for ps3

well, we've already established they're buying gta4, so what's a little bit more masochism on the side

Himu · « **Reply #19 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:47:04 PM »

shiiiiiii-et

Powerslave · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2008, 06:59:44 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 26, 2008, 06:40:37 PM

why would anyone buy gta4 for ps3

Because I dont want a 360?

Trent Dole · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:01:13 PM »

Some? Full BC or GTFO, Sony.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #22 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:02:39 PM »

Quote from: Powerslave on February 26, 2008, 06:36:05 PM

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 26, 2008, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Powerslave on February 26, 2008, 05:36:09 PM
will there be a GTA4 Pack? There must be, right?
No.

Fuck, my intention was to buy a Ps3_gta4 pack.

What's the big deal? A bundle will only save you about $30 anyways. You can easily save that much or more by waiting for the right deal on the internet.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:04:18 PM »

Didn't the 80 GB already have BC? This isn't fucking news, is it?

Christ, you fucking fail Himu.

Eric P · « **Reply #24 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:04:23 PM »

Quote from: Blanka Face on February 26, 2008, 06:21:19 PM

I have hardware back compat, I can play all my ps2 games. Which is good cause PS3 games blow

seriously

for the pure digital out of the ps3, i'd consider this just for playing ps2 games

nothing ps3 really interests me

The Sceneman · « **Reply #25 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:05:02 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 26, 2008, 06:47:58 PM

zing

more zing than the trailer to Harvard Man

someone got seriously owned, thats for sure

The Sceneman · « **Reply #26 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:05:58 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 26, 2008, 07:04:18 PM

Didn't the 80 GB already have BC? This isn't fucking news, is it?

Christ, you fucking fail Himu.

yeah but wasnt the 80 gig discontinued? Who failed here?

Himu · « **Reply #27 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:07:01 PM »

fuck you guys

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #28 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:07:17 PM »

HIMU = FAIL

It is Newton's Fourth Law of Internet Physics.

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:09:09 PM »

Newton used the internet?

Himu · « **Reply #30 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:10:19 PM »

Wasn't that Al Gore?!

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #31 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:11:31 PM »

Newton invented the internet before there were computers to connect to it.

Also, MGS4 bundle automatically fails for including an MGS game.

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:13:21 PM »

I am going to speed run through MGS1-3 before this comes out

MGS4

10 years of MGS

Powerslave · « **Reply #33 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:17:46 PM »

Quote from: Scenester on February 26, 2008, 07:05:02 PM

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on February 26, 2008, 06:47:58 PM
zing

more zing than the trailer to Harvard Man

someone got seriously owned, thats for sure

Wait is this about me?

got owned for what? Wanting a ps3 over 360? lmao

y2kev · « **Reply #34 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:22:30 PM »

Hi Himu,

welcome to team future

aka team ps3

well, when you join us you will be welcome

Himu · « **Reply #35 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:23:08 PM »

how often do you use your ps3, kev

i can't wait to join team future

y2kev · « **Reply #36 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:24:37 PM »

Rarely, though I've been really sick as of late so I haven't touched a video game in more than a WEEK (!)

but MGS4

Himu · « **Reply #37 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:26:33 PM »

kevin are you DYING?!!

Himu · « **Reply #38 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:28:47 PM »

I CANNOT WAIT PARTAKE IN TEAM FUTURE AND BLU GAY

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actually i probably won't even buy blu rays even when i get an hdtv

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Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:31:27 PM »

i'm scared they'll just end up being another dead sony format

Powerslave · « **Reply #40 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:34:59 PM »

Answer me, was I the one who you were zing'ing cohen?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #41 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:36:19 PM »

Isn't it kinda a zing if you have to ask if you're being zinged or not?

Powerslave · « **Reply #42 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:36:31 PM »

shit, im getting trolled and I dont even realize it

The Sceneman · « **Reply #43 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:39:27 PM »

I think the people who got zinged were people who like GTA4, or so I have assesed

Maybe I got zinged for assuming as much?

This is getting confusing... anyways

GTA4

Himu · « **Reply #44 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:40:44 PM »

how can we like gta4 if it's not even out yet

y2kev · « **Reply #45 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:41:17 PM »

synbios alert

Powerslave · « **Reply #46 on:** February 26, 2008, 07:41:46 PM »

I think we should put a ban on zinging. It doesn't feel good to be zing'D. Doesn't feel good at all

calcifer · « **Reply #47 on:** February 26, 2008, 08:44:53 PM »

Quote from: ParticleReality on February 26, 2008, 07:42:09 PM

but since when is the 80GB fully BC?

it's never been and nobody said it is

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #48 on:** February 26, 2008, 09:07:29 PM »

80gig PS3's! Represent!

MCD · « **Reply #49 on:** February 26, 2008, 09:26:00 PM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 26, 2008, 09:07:29 PM

80gig PS3's! Represent!

60 gig bitch

brawndolicious · « **Reply #50 on:** February 26, 2008, 09:34:55 PM »

I guess this explains how Sony got MGS4 to be exclusive. Konami probably gets a cut of the sales from these bundles. Makes me wonder if there'll even be a MGS4 for 360 eventually.

Quote from: Himuro on February 26, 2008, 07:28:47 PM

I CANNOT WAIT PARTAKE IN TEAM FUTURE AND BLU GAY

spoiler (click to show/hide)
actually i probably won't even buy blu rays even when i get an hdtv[/spoiler
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same. I have absolutely no interest in watching a movie in HD. Love HD gaming though.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #51 on:** February 26, 2008, 09:35:40 PM »

Xbot Fud of The Day: MGS4 is being bundled with a 80gb PS3 because there's a mandatory 40gb installation

Spread it.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #52 on:** February 26, 2008, 09:43:29 PM »

But no installation is needed on the 360 because it isn't limited by a slow Blu-ray drive.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #53 on:** February 26, 2008, 10:36:40 PM »

The 40GB models are going to be software backwards compatible at some point, as well. It doesn't really matter. The bundle is a good deal for the extra HD space and copy of Metal Gear Solid 4, though.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #54 on:** February 26, 2008, 11:58:14 PM »

Quote from: Groo on February 26, 2008, 11:26:39 PM

Well you can criticize MS all you like for their multi-SKU policy, but Arcade, Premium, Elite seems a lot clearer than 20GB, 60GB, 80GB, 40GB.

Not to mention Sony promised Full BC at the beginning. Many of my PS3 owning friends are confused when I tell them that their 80GB PS3s aren't compeletely BC.

y2kev · « **Reply #55 on:** February 27, 2008, 12:11:50 AM »

PS3 SKUs are fucked up as hell and are worse than the 360 situation, but it's not for the same reason. They have never really had two on the market at the same time until this holiday.

20/60 -- 20 was gone by January
60/80 -- 60 was gone by October
80/40 -- 80 is being phased out but apparently will be re-bundled

It's like saying MS has the core, arcade, pro, premium, halo, elite....they aren't all out there at the same time. at least not with official marketing support and such.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #56 on:** February 27, 2008, 12:19:11 AM »

Considering how many tard packs are on shelves, 360 customers were a lot smarter than many people expected.

Sony's biggest problem is that the average consumer thinks that the different SKUs just have different hard drives. I can imagine a few people being really upset when their PS3s didn't have the capabilities that

they expected. Most people probably won't bother to return their PS3s but stuff like that causes loyalty to the Playstation brand to dwindle even further.

pancakesandsex · « **Reply #57 on:** February 27, 2008, 01:07:50 AM »

I'm actually planning to double dip when this comes out. I have a friend interested in my 40gb, and it turns out i really miss the ps2 BC, if only because i still play a ton of ps2 games, and i want the memcard manager.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #58 on:** February 27, 2008, 01:25:43 AM »

Quote from: Groo on February 27, 2008, 01:12:35 AM

Quote from: y2kev on February 27, 2008, 12:11:50 AM
PS3 SKUs are fucked up as hell and are worse than the 360 situation, but it's not for the same reason. They have never really had two on the market at the same time until this holiday.

20/60 -- 20 was gone by January
60/80 -- 60 was gone by October
80/40 -- 80 is being phased out but apparently will be re-bundled

That's the corporate line, but in retailer reality it's different because the PS3 wasn't selling... they still have 20/40/60 in Japan retail, but they haven't announced the 80 here afaik. I think you can still get 60 in the US if you look for it, can't you?

There were several deals on the Sony website where you could have gotten it for $350 or so and still be eligible for 5 free blu-rays.

Buying a PS3 for $600 at launch is possibly the worst videogame-related purchase I've ever made. :'(

muckson · « **Reply #59 on:** February 27, 2008, 01:45:29 AM »

without backward compatability, the ps3 is useless to me. why would i want to keep my ps2 hooked up? i don't have the space for that. i use my ps2 to play ps1 games all the time. if i couldn't do that with the ps3 i'd feel like i wasted all that money on those games that i can't play. and the state of my old ps1 is pretty shabby although i took good care of it. things get old, and when my ps2 does i don't want to have to buy another one when i should be able to use the ps3.

thank christ i own zero xbox games because if i did i'd be pissed about my 360.

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Author Topic: 80 GB PS3 MGS4 BUNDLE HAS BACKWARDS COMPAT. PS3 PURCHASE SOLIDIFIED (Read 8670 times)