so i played brawl tonight...

[Rman]

Thank God, there's a general consensus here that Tekken has gone down the tubes.  Anytime I read anyone singing the praises of the Tekken games in their current incarnations I feel like throwing up.  

[MCD]

wasn't tekken 5 the best? (counting DR too)

not a tekken fan so i dunno much about it.

[Beezy]

Tekken sucks too.

[Rman]

wasn't tekken 5 the best? (counting DR too)

not a tekken fan so i dunno much about it.

Tekken 5 was a return to form.  The series peaked at 2/3.  However, the gameplay has aged terribly so, while it currently resembles Tekken 3/TTT, the game is just not a fun as it once was.  The gameplay is just dated, IMO, and it's showing its age.

[MCD]

i see.

thanks Rman.

[CajoleJuice]

(3:20:02 AM) Himu: I'm turning into a Smash cigarillo.
(3:20:03 AM) Himu:
(3:20:09 AM) Himu: I played Smash all night

[Himu]

Played all night with my bud.

I'm still not sure who to play as. After further investigation, Sonic sucks. He has no good "fuck off and get out of the screen" moves, and most of his move arsenal consists of spin dash stuff, which makes his move list feel redundant. Snake is neat, but not exactly fun to use imo. Which is disappointing. On top of that, the Shadow Moses stage is really lacking.

So far I'm partial to Diddy, Meta Knight, Jigglypuff, Fox, and Ice Climbers. Right now Fox is my main. His move list clicks with me the most, he's not a bad damage dealer, and he's got plenty of GTFO moves. My issue with him is that his Final Smash isn't that fun to use.

Single player continues to impress greatly. Cleared a few characters on my friend's file tonight on Classic mode. Love the credits that has you shoot every single character in the game for points.

The level design continues to impress even more so. The non static stages: Pictochat, F-Zero, Donkey Kong, Game and Watch, Wario Ware;etc. stages are easily my favorites because they have you continuiously moving or getting involved. I adore the level design a lot. If only other fighting games had stages nearly as creative as the Game and Watch stage.

SSE continues to impress as well. The Donkey Kong stage felt like a genuine platformer right out of Donkey Kong Country.

The Masterpieces section is LOL. I tried out Star Fox 64 and by the time I started playing the trial was already up, and for shit's and giggles (because I KNEW exactly where the trial would end) I tried out OoT, and the trial ends in the middle of the cutscene between Navi and Link. I don't know why they even do that stuff. I mean, OoT's intro is long as hell so why bother when you have a 3-5 minute time limit?

This will be bought day one when I get a new Wii along with No More Heroes.

[Smooth Groove]

Did you try Solid Snake, Himu?  I'm kinda curious about how he fits in. 

[Himu]

Yeah, I tried out Snake but I'm not a big fan of him. His moves consist of the NIKITA, mines, and grenades, and a few other stuff. It works well enough but he's not that fun to use imo, which sucks because I was looking forward to using him.

He doesn't feel out of place, though. Especially with omgz mature characters like Samus, Marth, and Ike in the game.

[Beezy]

I mainly play as Marth, Diddy, Snake, and Ike. I unlocked Toon Link and Wolf O' Donell last night and I like how both of them play too. This isn't like Melee where I only like playing with 2-3 characters. I can't get better with anyone because I keep switching.

Btw, Samus sucks, but Zero Suit Samus owns. Hold the R button when picking Samus to start out as ZSS.

[TakingBackSunday]

See, I'm really good with Sonic.  He may not be super powerful, but since he has such awesome speed, you can fly by your opponents and just continually hit them until they get near 60ish% and start your air combos.

and his FS is awesome.

[Beezy]

I spend at least an hour in this game's Sound Test mode whenever I play it.

[bud]

i dig the mgs4 love theme

smh @ nintendo spoiling shit


and about smash--i thought the gc one was fun in mp. never played it alone, though.

[y2kev]

how dare nintendo spoil mgs4

fuck them in the face

[MCD]

they spoiled mgs4?

[Rman]

How did Brawl the spoil MGS4?  By including the theme song? Big woop.

[Himu]

I mainly play as Marth, Diddy, Snake, and Ike. I unlocked Toon Link and Wolf O' Donell last night and I like how both of them play too. This isn't like Melee where I only like playing with 2-3 characters. I can't get better with anyone because I keep switching.

Btw, Samus sucks, but Zero Suit Samus owns. Hold the R button when picking Samus to start out as ZSS.

I was curious how you play as Zero Samus thanks

[Phoenix Dark]

and for the first time ever I actually had fun playing Smash Bros.

I like the level design a lot, especially the F-zero and Donkey Kong levels. They really keep me on my toes.

But on top of that, the single player mode is a big, big, BIG draw for me. Nintendo needs to work on a new Kid Icarus stat. Pit's section in SSE had me smiling.

Nintendo really put a lot of work in this game. The level design in particular, is extremely well polished and has tons of variety. The mixture of platforming and fighting in the Donkey Kong stage was fucking awesome.

I'm not sure who to use though. I'm partial to Sonic and Pit so far.

They're all 2D platforms

[Himu]

What I mean is that there's a lot of variety. They aren't static and boring like 99% of other fighters. They keep you involved.

[y2kev]

and for the first time ever I actually had fun playing Smash Bros.

I like the level design a lot, especially the F-zero and Donkey Kong levels. They really keep me on my toes.

But on top of that, the single player mode is a big, big, BIG draw for me. Nintendo needs to work on a new Kid Icarus stat. Pit's section in SSE had me smiling.

Nintendo really put a lot of work in this game. The level design in particular, is extremely well polished and has tons of variety. The mixture of platforming and fighting in the Donkey Kong stage was fucking awesome.

I'm not sure who to use though. I'm partial to Sonic and Pit so far.

They're all 2D platforms

[CajoleJuice]

What I mean is that there's a lot of variety. They aren't static and boring like 99% of other fighters. They keep you involved.

Melee had the same stuff.

[Himu]

What I mean is that there's a lot of variety. They aren't static and boring like 99% of other fighters. They keep you involved.

Melee had the same stuff.

Brawl's stages are MUCH better. Melee didn't have the Game and Watch stage, and I don't recall the F-Zero stage being THAT awesome in Melee. Melee also didn't have the Wario Ware stage.

[CajoleJuice]

Melee had a Game and Watch stage. I don't know what the Brawl one is like.

And there were TWO F-Zero stages.

Whatever, I don't know Brawl and probably never will.

[The Fake Shemp]

It's the same as Melee.  Himuro am mascot cigarillo confirmed.

[Himu]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[CajoleJuice]

Same game I played as a teenaged manchild, it seems.

[Himu]

the character roster in melee sucked. i could never get into the characters in Smash 64 or Melee. Thankfuly in this game I like a lot of characters and they're fun to play as.

[MCD]

mewtwo > that furry shit in brawl.

[TakingBackSunday]

mewtwo > that furry shit in brawl.

Lucario is so much better than Mewtwo.

[MCD]

mewtwo > that furry shit in brawl.

Lucario is so much better than Mewtwo.

all characters are much better than mewtwo.

i just liked using him.

[MCD]

is the game slower than melee or it's just me?

i feel like a moving tank 

[CajoleJuice]

I saw ONE video of Brawl, that one where the Fox player owns himself with a Final Smash, and it definitely seemed slower. I thought they just nerfed Fox, though.

[CurseoftheGods]

is the game slower than melee or it's just me?

i feel like a moving tank 

They slowed the game down to the original game's speed (SSB64). Sakurai felt Melee was too fast and chaotic.

I actually like Sonic. He's very fast, and he's great at poking and escaping falls.   

I am going to write a review in a couple of days. The SSE is painfully embarrassing to play through so it's going to take me some time to finish it.

[MCD]

is the game slower than melee or it's just me?

i feel like a moving tank 

They slowed the game down to the original game's speed (SSB64). Sakurai felt Melee was too fast and chaotic.

wtf 

[CajoleJuice]

Wow, the more I hear of Brawl, the more I'm happy I never bothered to buy a Wii. I was looking forward to this game a year and a half ago.

smh @ me

[Phoenix Dark]

Played it at Gamestop today. Not only did it look rather ugly (Nintendo has the worst kiosks) but it didn't play much different than the previous ones. I played for about 5 minutes with my brother, who LOVED it. sigh

[AdmiralViscen]

Wavebirds are like $60 on Amazon. Fortunately I have 3. If you find a place to get a 4th for a fair price let me know.

BTW the stages are way better than Melee's.

[Bloodwake]

Smash Brothers Brawl is great because I liked the old speed better anyways

Honestly, Brawl does look better. It doesn't look A LOT better (I mean, it's the Wii, come on) but it looks better.

[thekavorka]

so i played brawl for a couple hours at a friend's place. it feels pretty much like melee except all the new shit.

but the online is seriously distinguished mentally-challenged.

WHO'S BRIGHT IDEA WAS IT TO PUT A TIME LIMIT IN THE CHARACTER SELECTION SCREEN?

ok. so we had me and a friend on one tv. we tried to get two other people from two separate Wii's. if they didn't connect within the time limit (40 or so seconds), you had to leave and make a new game. distinguished mentally-challenged

[y2kev]

How did Brawl the spoil MGS4?  By including the theme song? Big woop.

It's not the theme song. It's a theme. Imagine if you had no idea that Eva was in the game and then "EVA'S THEME" popped up on the fucking Smash Bros level.

But it's not a big deal, I've heard it's just a remixed version of the song from the E3 06 trailer. That said, I would rather have not known the title.

[demi]

That's cause you're a cigarillo, Kev.

[y2kev]

wild homo pride.

[MCD]

eva was shown in some early scans, ugly old hag.

no big deal.

[bachikarn]

Btw, Samus sucks, but Zero Suit Samus owns. Hold the R button when picking Samus to start out as ZSS.

Yeah, I'm liking her a lot, but its distinguished mentally-challenged that her final smash is 'go become distinguished mentally-challenged samus.' You pretty much have to let your opponent get the stupid ball. I guess it doesn't matter if you turn that shit off though.

[Candyflip]

Yeah, I played it for a few hours yesterday. It's pretty fun, at least when you're playing with a couple people. It really does feel exactly like Melee though. Bit slower, a ton more characters, and (for the most part) better levels. The AI is still godawful though.

[Bloodwake]

I guarantee you that the kid icarus level will be banned in tourney play.

I've already figured out you can do an up smash move on the bottom level and the opposition basically just bounces off and out of the stage with minimal damage.

[AdmiralViscen]

It's already on most banned lists, but that's because you can destroy the platform and people with grapple recovery can't use them.

[y2kev]

I don't like a lot of the new levels. Final Destination is going to be banned, and New Pork City is terrrrrible.

[TakingBackSunday]

Why would Final Destination be banned?

[AdmiralViscen]

The new levels rule dude, mostly. The ones that don't are at least creative and interesting.

FD has an issue where you can get sort of trapped under the stage during recovery.

[y2kev]

I've read a variety of arguments, but the two biggest are that Dedede can chain grab all the way off the stage and that items like the laser gun can prevent you from ever having a chance...

[y2kev]

The new levels rule dude, mostly. The ones that don't are at least creative and interesting.

FD has an issue where you can get sort of trapped under the stage during recovery.

I dunno, I don't like a lot of them. I hate the DK scrolling stage (in my experience online the best recovery wins), I hate New Pork City, I don't like Pit's stage (for reasons stated above), don't like Final Destination, not a huge fan of the Zelda stage (kind of boring)....

I guess I like the rest though. I was just expecting a really cool Earthbound level with Mother 3 coming out!

[AdmiralViscen]

No one who bans stages uses items anyway.

Eldin, Pork, and DK scroll are the worst stages in the game tho, aside from the MB/WW/75m gimmicks. Everything else is aces. I think Pit's stage is pretty interesting.

[AdmiralViscen]

If you can stomach fagbutts these guys are going through the stages ad nauseum:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=153706&page=4

[y2kev]

I've been TRYING to read smash boards over the last couple days to get good at the game but I just can't do it.

[AdmiralViscen]

I wanted info on Olimar, so I clicked their definitive thread on him and it's like reading an encyclopedia. I'll figure him out myself.

At least I know what his down B does now.

[y2kev]

I wanted info on Olimar, so I clicked their definitive thread on him and it's like reading an encyclopedia. I'll figure him out myself.

At least I know what his down B does now.

oh shit what does it do?

[AdmiralViscen]

Not only does it call your Pikmin back to you (which they sorta do automatically and they barely run away, so whatever), it rearranges their sequence behind you.

Olimar starts the match with a default Pikmin color in the prime position, and every time you do downB it changes that default in a defined sequence. It's Red Blue Yellow Purple White or some shit, I forget. Each one has different effects and damage output.

[y2kev]

meh

i only used olimar once and i won only because his c stick smashes are fast and excellent. i dont get his specials and his recovery sux imo.

Pit should be banned from noob play, i cant stand hearing HIYAYAYAYAYAYAYA for an entire match.

[AdmiralViscen]

Olimar rules. I don't fuck around with his down B but his aerials, side B, and smashes are awesome.