GRAND THEFT AUTO IV FOR PS3: NOW AVAILABLE IN 630P - LULZ!!!

[calcifer]

[calcifer]

legend has it it will summon rrod if you encounter it 3 times

[Mupepe]

That happens quite a bit in the original GTA's actually so I'm not surprised, but fuck man, that shouldn't happen anymore!

[MCD]

note: dotcal is using a review copy.

retail might be better.

[duckman2000]

They'd have to downscale the graphics for that not to happen.
Still, it never ever happened in Crackdown.

I remember a lot of people scoffed at Crackdown's presentation, but I thought it was an all around brilliant (and a damn attractive game too). Not sure if it would have worked for GTA IV, but clearly RTW made a good decision for its game. Prototype, which I'm like psycho gaga for at this point, could also have benefited from a more stylized approach, I think. It will be interesting to see where infamous lands.

[MCD]

Doubt it.

Editor's note 02/19/08: After posting this review GameSpot found that load times in the review version of Lost Odyssey were significantly longer than those in the retail game. We have amended the review accordingly and regret the original error.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/lostodyssey/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Breview&page=2

in short, it's possible, same goes for pirated copies.

[duckman2000]

Doubt it.

Editor's note 02/19/08: After posting this review GameSpot found that load times in the review version of Lost Odyssey were significantly longer than those in the retail game. We have amended the review accordingly and regret the original error.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/lostodyssey/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary%3Breview&page=2

in short, it's possible, same goes for pirated copies.

I guess the weird thing here is that, well, it's a review copy. Why haven't reviewers made a bigger deal out of it? Open world games tend to get away with issues to a greater degree, but this seems pretty distracting as it actually affects how the game plays.

MS thought they would have the best performing version anyways, so they just sat back.

Rockstar claims that it received plenty of assistance from both Sony and MS though.

It could just be that this type of game is something the PS3 excels at. I mean, shouldn't it, considering all the CPU hype? It seems to generally fall short when comparing games that focus on smaller but more detailed areas.

[AdmiralViscen]

I have to say,

Dot50cal's adventure's with the Doom Tree are pretty awesome.

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DOOM TREE 360 EXLCUSIVE

Holy shit at that pop in.

Can you permanently save custom cars like in Saints Row? I want that one.

[Van Cruncheon]

Seriously, the PS3 version looks like the tried hard to make sfags cry.

bungie confirmed developer of ps3 version?

[Powerslave]

this thread got fucking huge  

[Mupepe]

Let's be real here.

The reason why it performs better on the PS3 is because of the standard HDD.

And the real reason, as speculated by many.

The PS3 version was having lots and lots of issues form the getgo, hence why they never ever showed it.

Sony send a team of ninjas in and optimized the fuck out of the code.

MS thought they would have the best performing version anyways, so they just sat back.

They'd have to downscale the graphics for that not to happen.
Still, it never ever happened in Crackdown.

I remember a lot of people scoffed at Crackdown's presentation, but I thought it was an all around brilliant (and a damn attractive game too). Not sure if it would have worked for GTA IV, but clearly RTW made a good decision for its game. Prototype, which I'm like psycho gaga for at this point, could also have benefited from a more stylized approach, I think. It will be interesting to see where infamous lands.

If Infamous turns out the way the say it will, it will be the PS3's crackdown.

Crackdown is still one of the best looking games this gen. Some people may not like the aesthetic, but technically, it can't be beat. That game has the best draw distance I have ever seen.

Crackdown is fucking gorgeous.  The simplistic cartoon design looks great and I guess it lends itself technically by allowing more simplistic textures.  It runs fucking great and the draw distance is amazing.  I love the game.

I need to check out Infamous.  Isn't that an MMO?  I thought it was.

Also, I'd say it's just the standard HDD for caching that helps the PS3.  Not to mention the fact that it's sub 720p which probably helped quite a bit with performance.  They probably dropped the res to get it stable and it just happened to help a great deal.  That would also be right in line with the "RSX Budge GPU" shit.

[Herr Mafflard]

I have to say,

Dot50cal's adventure's with the Doom Tree are pretty awesome.

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DOOM TREE 360 EXLCUSIVE

That's some shitty driving - how did he not see that invisible tree.

[duckman2000]

Heh, caught a PS specific GTA IV ad. I'm sure there are 360 ads running too, but I was surprised to see any "exclusive" ads for this game. That must have cost some coin.

[demi]

today is GTDAY...day

i'll be at midnight launch - two people on my list are already playing this.. they are aussies playing the gimped version

[GilloD]

The pop-in issue is overblown. Maybe I'm just used to GTA having pop-in, but when I saw the videos I was just kind of like, "Oh, duh. Looks like the rest of the series". Also, I love the ZOMG GAME BREAKING DOOM TREE when it's one fucking tree in a huge game. So what?

[duckman2000]

Heh, caught a PS specific GTA IV ad. I'm sure there are 360 ads running too, but I was surprised to see any "exclusive" ads for this game. That must have cost some coin.

Kinda defeats the purpose if you think about it.

Still, its gotta suck for Sony that MS is coming in and chipping away at them like this.

Ideally, MS would have nailed this generation, as that would have basically forced Sony into submission and acceptance of Microsoft software and services on future Playstation products. That would have been awesome. But they screwed up, I guess that's what a lack of genuine interest in a market does. I'm usually all for competition, but I'm not sure that this particular competition has been very good for gamers. Hopefully they can reach some agreement and give us one console with good hardware and software. Or at least some standardized format.

[AdmiralViscen]

Heh, caught a PS specific GTA IV ad. I'm sure there are 360 ads running too, but I was surprised to see any "exclusive" ads for this game. That must have cost some coin.

There are PS3-only banners on buses in Manhattan.

[AdmiralViscen]

There's no way they'd take the second-rate console brand name of XBox, with all its quality baggage, and put it on a non-gaming media center.

[calcifer]

Heh, caught a PS specific GTA IV ad. I'm sure there are 360 ads running too, but I was surprised to see any "exclusive" ads for this game. That must have cost some coin.

i havent seen a single gta4 ad yet 

[calcifer]

There's no way they'd take the second-rate console brand name of XBox, with all its quality baggage, and put it on a non-gaming media center.

mmmbox (microsoft media module box)

[duckman2000]

Of course it has been good for gamers.

Despite MS faults this gen, look what they forced Sony and Nintendo to do.

-Have online
-Had a DL games service
-Demos
-Voice chat

To name a few.

MS always said they just wanted to keep Sony at bay. I don't think their real intentions were to completely overtake sony. MS isn't stupid. They know that EU and JAP and extremley hard battles for them..

Perhaps. Competition has its upsides, I'm just sick of the multi-console shit in general, and then especially of each system having strengths and weaknesses.

As for MS, I just really don't think MS actually wants to be part of this. It felt forced to, and has in some ways done a great job (the Xbox ruled), but everything right now seems to point to a Microsoft trudging along in a market it doesn't seriously want to compete in, with a system it doesn't really want to have around, and a line-up that peaked and failed to deliver a "deathblow" to the competition. So yeah, ideally MS would have gotten Sony to a point where Sony would be forced to accept MS software and services, and we'd finally get our uber-console. I don't care if it'd cost me $1000, I just want one brilliant gaming platform.

[Mupepe]

Of course it has been good for gamers.

Despite MS faults this gen, look what they forced Sony and Nintendo to do.

-Have online
-Had a DL games service
-Demos
-Voice chat

To name a few.

MS always said they just wanted to keep Sony at bay. I don't think their real intentions were to completely overtake sony. MS isn't stupid. They know that EU and JAP and extremley hard battles for them..

Perhaps. Competition has its upsides, I'm just sick of the multi-console shit in general, and then especially of each system having strengths and weaknesses.

As for MS, I just really don't think MS actually wants to be part of this. It felt forced to, and has in some ways done a great job (the Xbox ruled), but everything right now seems to point to a Microsoft trudging along in a market it doesn't seriously want to compete in, with a system it doesn't really want to have around, and a line-up that peaked and failed to deliver a "deathblow" to the competition. So yeah, ideally MS would have gotten Sony to a point where Sony would be forced to accept MS software and services, and we'd finally get our uber-console. I don't care if it'd cost me $1000, I just want one brilliant gaming platform.

I really kind of agree.  After 2007, it looks like MS stopped caring nearly as much.  Maybe they got too comfortable?  I don't know.  But they definitely don't have the same enthusiasm in 2008 that they did in 2007.  Hopefully they'll change that at E3. 

[AdmiralViscen]

What corporation is "enthusiastic"?

All that's changed is the PR.

[Mupepe]

What corporation is "enthusiastic"?

All that's changed is the PR.

I dunno.  Peter Moore, J. Allard, that group seemed pretty enthusiastic.  Definitely moreso than the team they have now.  Not to mention, a year ago, it seemed like MS was trying to woo developers and work them to really get somewhere the with Xbox.  And now there's that news about the royalties xbla developers are paying, shit like that shows that they have a different mindset now.

[demi]

That was before they knew their machine would turn to liquid shit after a year of usage

[Don Flamenco]

Holy fuck, the GTA battle thread is 67 pages 

Someone who can post at gaf should bring up NPD....c'mon, you know you want to see 67 more pages

[duckman2000]

Holy fuck, the GTA battle thread is 67 pages 

Someone who can post at gaf should bring up NPD....c'mon, you know you want to see 67 more pages

You're such a GAFer.

[Don Flamenco]

Holy fuck, the GTA battle thread is 67 pages 

Someone who can post at gaf should bring up NPD....c'mon, you know you want to see 67 more pages

You're such a GAFer.

the hell is that supposed to mean?  you seem a hell of a lot more invested in this    
I just wanna see the results.

[hyp]

did GAF just die?

630p shut up a ton of people and increased the amount of damage control troops.

60 pages of filth.

[Trent Dole]

74 now, and you can't really judge a game from still images anyway.

[The Fake Shemp]

Wow, if my DM or RD caught wind that I had a copy of GTAIV running inside the store - I'd probably get a written coaching plan.

[The Fake Shemp]

It's not store wide to play Talladega Nights either.  You're insane.

You can't demo M-rated games in a GameStop unless the demo has been altered for public use.  You can't show movies that aren't PG-13 either.  You're not supposed to show movies anyway, your DVD player is for GameStop TV 24/7.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

That was before they knew their machine would turn to liquid shit after a year of usage

unfortunately, the best way for MS to turn a profit this generation is to actively dissuade people from buying a 360

[The Fake Shemp]

630p for Sony fanboys only...

RSX budget gpu

[Howard Alan Treesong]

630p? awesome, I love free anti-aliasing

[The Fake Shemp]

 

[hyp]

and yet 630p "looks better."

-neogaf

 

[The Fake Shemp]

SONY HAS THAT "LOOK" IT JUST "LOOKS BETTER".

Also, Xbox 360 has nothing but pop-in!  All pop-in all the time!  But now we know that PS3 version has slightly less pop-in thanks to its downgraded resolution!  Who needs pop-in when you can play GTAIV in 630p!

[Howard Alan Treesong]

image quality = number of pixels * quality of pixels

fewer pixels means that each pixel is of a higher quality, so the overall image quality is better

smh at Xbox mathtards

[demi]

630p just means there's more to be upscaled at 1080p *drool*

[hyp]

didn't you hear, 630p upscaled makes everything look SMOOOVER. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

aka blurry

[close]

[demi]

so what is 360 res?

[Don Flamenco]

Holy fuck, the GTA battle thread is 67 pages 

Someone who can post at gaf should bring up NPD....c'mon, you know you want to see 67 more pages

You're such a GAFer.

the hell is that supposed to mean?  you seem a hell of a lot more invested in this    
I just wanna see the results.

just to follow up-- calling someone out then bailing is the gaffiest move that ever gaffed. 



also, 630p is more fum.

[The Fake Shemp]

The 360 is running 720p MSAAx2.

[GilloD]

It's like less is more. GTA has always been about subtlety, so fewer pixels are better. I don't wanna get beaten over the head with pixels, you know?

[hyp]

hot tip for 360 owners who want the 630p exclusive PS3 look -- turn the sharpness setting of your TV ALL THE WAY DOWN.  or if you're a 360 gamer who wears glasses, play with that shit off.

[Don Flamenco]

It's like less is more. GTA has always been about subtlety, so fewer pixels are better. I don't wanna get beaten over the head with pixels, you know?

you have the best avatar ever!

[duckman2000]

The 360 is running 720p MSAAx2.

It's easy to afford a few extra lines of resolution when you only have to render a few scattered objects at a time, amirite?

Just to follow up-- calling someone out then bailing is the gaffiest move that ever gaffed. 

What is there to say? I said that you're such a GAFer, you respond with "what the hell is that supposed to mean?", which is an odd question that really doesn't need an answer. You expressed a desire (for someone else) to post something about NPD in the NeoGAF thread. If that's not GAFertude, then I don't know what is.

[Don Flamenco]

The 360 is running 720p MSAAx2.

It's easy to afford a few extra lines of resolution when you only have to render a few scattered objects at a time, amirite?

Just to follow up-- calling someone out then bailing is the gaffiest move that ever gaffed. 

What is there to say? I said that you're such a GAFer, you respond with "what the hell is that supposed to mean?", which is an odd question that really doesn't need an answer. You expressed a desire (for someone else) to post something about NPD in the NeoGAF thread. If that's not GAFertude, then I don't know what is.

Wow, not sure why you're such a cock to me, but btw, i don't actually care about NPD, it's purely for fun/to see how people react i.e. griefing/trolling for kicks. It's okay, the PS3 version of GTA is fine, I'm buying it too.  No need for the constant personal attacks, buddy, pal, brah.

Not that being called a gaffer is a huge insult, considering this is a spin-off board and is a carbon copy of threads, for the most part.

[Eric P]

i'm amazed at the absolutely unforseen turn this thread took.

nostradamus couldn't see this twist coming

truly something from the m night shyamalan playbook

[Grecco]

Im still laughing at this and that gaf thread. How did i miss this.

[Van Cruncheon]

this is so awesome

fanboy tears make a river of delight we all can paddle in

[Grecco]

Their Anguish sustains me

[calcifer]

since everything except the res is superior in the ps3 version it still looks better despite 630p

-neogaf

 

fixed

a fair comparison would be ut classic running at 1152x864 (360 version of gta4) and ut3 running at 1024x768 (ps3 version of gta4)

[calcifer]

the inferior version keeps getting inferior

"Argh, there's fucking terrible audio compression on the 360."

so that means ps3 version = superior graphics, superior preformance and superior audio

360 version = 90 more pixels, pop-in, shitty textures, 8-bit sound :glooomy

[Grecco]

Lol Keep reaching

[duckman2000]

Lol Keep reaching

"It's just another piece of evidence to show that when it comes down to it, they are all crusty flakes from the same turd."

[duckman2000]

Oh yeah, and that well fed chick that NerdGAF is now pretending to reject is sort of cute, in a "will do anything, and like it" sort of way.

[FatalT]

LOL TEH XBAWKZ HAS NES SOUNDS! BEEP BOOP BEEP! ps3 AM TEH WINNAR AGAIN!

[Van Cruncheon]

it's nice of rockstar to release clearly marked sd and hd versions