The 360 released a year earlier and...

[CHOW CHOW]

...is just as powerful as the PS3.  Does anyone else find that funny?  It's basically unprecedented.  It's never happened before. 

Think about it for a minute, and use the past gens as an example.  I'll use last gen with the Xbox / PS2. 

Every single multi-platform port on Xbox slaughtered the PS2 version (except for like one game, Burnout, but 99% did).

And when I say slaughtered I mean they were vastly superior to their PS2 counterparts.

Fast forward to this gen with the 360 and PS3 and everything has turned completely upside down.  If the PS3 truly was 'monumentally' more powerful than the 360, then multi-platform ports wouldn't even be close.  The PS3 versions would be vastly superior, just like with last gen.

Not only are they NOT superior, but they're not even equal.  The system that released a year earlier has the better versions.  How insane is that?  Like I said, it's unprecedented.

As for the exclusives, the fact that we're even having debates about Killzone, Gears, Resistance, etc., is seriously ridiculous.  Why, you ask?  Again, look to last gen.  Would anyone argue that Ninja Gaiden Black doesn't shit all over every game on PS2?  Even the mightiest of sfags wouldn't argue that.  It's impossible to.  The incredible Rallisport Challenge 2, Riddick (amazing), Halo 2, Panzer Dragoon, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, on and on... all of these games shit all over everything released on PS2.  It's not even debatable.

Even when you consider games like Killzone 2... let's say for argument's sake that it's the best looking console game this gen.  A lot of people agree with that statement.  Hey, that's great, man.  Awesome.  But it's one game.  One, compared to a myriad of titles on Xbox last gen that shat all over every PS2 game. And it took 4 years and $50 million to create that one game, and even then there's low-res textures littered all over the place. 

Then you just look at what's going down this gen with the 360 & PS3... that we're even having these debates about which platform's exclusives look better, or the fact that every multi-plat game looks superior on the console released a year earlier -- it's like a bizarro gen.

[AdmiralViscen]

Being totally objective, PS3's exclusives in 2008 absolutely slaughter 360's.  What are your thoughts on this?  I'll make a list for both, in chronological order..

PS3
MLB '08: The Show - March 4th, the best baseball game ever created
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds - March 18th, one of the best sports franchises in existence
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - April 17th
Haze - May 20th, Free Radical
Metal Gear Solid 4 - June 12th
Echochrome - mid 2008, level editor and ability to share your levels
SOCOM: Confrontation - mid 2008, Summer months
WipEout HD - mid 2008, can't be understated how great this is going to be
Valkyria Chronicles - mid 2008, Summer months... that amazing looking Sega RPG strategy game
Disgaea 3 - August
Killzone 2 - September, Guerrilla will deliver.  Already have on the visual front... absolutely destroying the competition.  This is not Killzone 1 all over again.  The original Killzone team is a fraction of the total team working on KZ2.  It's like a 200 person project, compared to 50 for KZ1.  Sony realizes what's at stake here, both financially and symbolically for the PS3. They understand that this game must be good.  They've moved people from their Cambridge studios over to help.  The development for this title has barely anything in common with the original Killzone.
LittleBigPlanet - September, and possibly GOTY
Heavy Rain - October, makers of Indigo Prophecy
Resistance 2 - November, 60 player online, 8 player online co-op, 2 campaigns, etc
Motorstorm 2 - 2008, probably December
Infamous - 2008, PS3's Crackdown


360:
Lost Odyssey - January
Too Human - May
Ninja Gaiden 2 - June
Fable 2 -Q3
Gears of War - November
Banjo - Q4 (?)

It's not even close.  Why are you guys anti-PS3?  Do you not see the massive tidal wave that's approaching?  The writings on the wall.  2008's gonna be a bloodbath.  How can you not see this?  Look at those two lists.  Try to be objective about them.  This is an absolute massacre.  If you don't cop a PS3 within the next few months, you're going to be missing out.

re: Xbox Live vs. PSN
In-game XMB is confirmed and Home is launching in 2-3 months as well.  Once that happens, Xbox Live will be officially neutered.  Forget Home for a minute.  All PSN needs is in-game XMB access and it'll have matched Xbox Live, feature for feature, and for free.  Home actually sounds promising, btw: link.  I'm still not sold on it, though.  It's kind of gay.. not the MMO-type.

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=18255.msg441839#msg441839

[CHOW CHOW]

Yeah, I know.  It took me a while to realize what was up with this gen but I now know the truth.  Lots of flip-flopping, lots of indecisiveness, but all that's in the past now.

[MCD]

If I ever saw you on the street...

If I ever saw that disgusting looking mug of yours walking down the street, I'd beat the living shidt out of you. I'm dead serious. You make me sick. You're the most disgusting human being I've ever come across online. Never has an Internet persona made me sick to my stomach. That's how I feel when I read one of your totally incoherent posts.

You make me cringe. You're, bar none, the worst poster this community has ever had. It's no coincidence that you're also the dumbest motherfucker this community has ever had.

Every time I see that you're actively posting, I want to close this tab and take a fucking shower. I'm DEAD serious. That's how absolutely disgusting you are.

For my own safety and well-being, I ask that you please not respond to me anymore. Your illiteracy is contagious. You're an absolute abomination in every sense of the word.

[CHOW CHOW]

If I ever saw you on the street...

If I ever saw that disgusting looking mug of yours walking down the street, I'd beat the living shidt out of you. I'm dead serious. You make me sick. You're the most disgusting human being I've ever come across online. Never has an Internet persona made me sick to my stomach. That's how I feel when I read one of your totally incoherent posts.

You make me cringe. You're, bar none, the worst poster this community has ever had. It's no coincidence that you're also the dumbest motherfucker this community has ever had.

Every time I see that you're actively posting, I want to close this tab and take a fucking shower. I'm DEAD serious. That's how absolutely disgusting you are.

For my own safety and well-being, I ask that you please not respond to me anymore. Your illiteracy is contagious. You're an absolute abomination in every sense of the word.

One of my best works.  All fire.

[MCD]

i really love that post, absolutely beautiful.

[Kestastrophe]

If I ever saw you on the street...

If I ever saw that disgusting looking mug of yours walking down the street, I'd beat the living shidt out of you. I'm dead serious. You make me sick. You're the most disgusting human being I've ever come across online. Never has an Internet persona made me sick to my stomach. That's how I feel when I read one of your totally incoherent posts.

You make me cringe. You're, bar none, the worst poster this community has ever had. It's no coincidence that you're also the dumbest motherfucker this community has ever had.

Every time I see that you're actively posting, I want to close this tab and take a fucking shower. I'm DEAD serious. That's how absolutely disgusting you are.

For my own safety and well-being, I ask that you please not respond to me anymore. Your illiteracy is contagious. You're an absolute abomination in every sense of the word.

                            
                        
                        
                   

[Raban]

Who the fuck is Chow Chow?

[Rman]

It's all about the games anyway.  And currently the 360 has an advantage.  I'm a big Sony fan, too.  Look at the PS2, it was the weakest console hardware wise, but its library is still one of the best ever.

[MCD]

a lonely OA'er.

[Raban]

a lonely OA'er.

Well his name his Chow Chow, so I may have to love him.

[Howard Alan Treesong]