May NPD

[The Sceneman]

who cares about any of this, 360 has tons of jrpgs heading its way, im stoked

[duckman2000]

Your doomsday scenario isn't gonna happen, man.  Software for the 360 is selling very impressively, and no single company can stop the progression of technology.  If you don't like what Nintendo's doing there are plenty of other options.  It'd make more sense to focus your anger towards MS and Sony for botching this generation than getting in a hissy fit over Nintendo.

The whole point is that I don't have other options, because I let this thing into my house. Instead of showing off some cool racing game to the family and thereby managing to sneak in some game time into family functions (or at least having something nice to look at), I'm instead showing off fucking WiiSports. Which they love, so the game time is suddenly theirs. And instead of spending late hours calling in airstrikes and whispering "duck-a-duck" into the microphone before sending in an attack helicopter, I'm busy becoming irritated over random mini-games in Mario Party.

And the doomsday scenario may be exaggerated, and I don't personally believe Sony could opt for the low-end business as it's far too dependent on the Playstation brand as a pillar in the CE industry, it's still a potential issue. I certainly wouldn't blame any business for wanting to test the Wii waters a bit, because theoretically, it should be a damned good platform for broad sales. And I wouldn't blame them for altering the direction and content of the games to fit the tastes of this new, massive audience either.

And I'm not sure where you're getting "anger" from. I'm annoyed by the situation, but I promise you, I have nothing but respect for the hitmaking company behind the system. The Wii is a brilliant product, I just don't like it.

[Kestastrophe]

Pachter was wrong again. Last month he predicted the PS3 to beat out the 360, NPDs came out and the converse was true. Now the same thing happens again this month, only he predicted the 360 to beat out the PS3. I would love to know who his sources are on alot of this.

[Crushed]

The whole point is that I don't have other options, because I let this thing into my house. Instead of showing off some cool racing game to the family and thereby managing to sneak in some game time into family functions (or at least having something nice to look at), I'm instead showing off fucking WiiSports. Which they love, so the game time is suddenly theirs. And instead of spending late hours calling in airstrikes and whispering "duck-a-duck" into the microphone before sending in an attack helicopter, I'm busy becoming irritated over random mini-games in Mario Party.

"HEY FAMILY, LOOK AT THIS COOL RACING GAME ISN'T IT AWESOME"

"that's nice dear (bored) Oh hey, let's play something I'll have fun wi-"

"GOD THIS IS SO UNFAIR"

[duckman2000]

Is this what he actually does, or is it just part of a greater prediction business of his? I keep reading his name everywhere, not sure who he is.

[duckman2000]

The whole point is that I don't have other options, because I let this thing into my house. Instead of showing off some cool racing game to the family and thereby managing to sneak in some game time into family functions (or at least having something nice to look at), I'm instead showing off fucking WiiSports. Which they love, so the game time is suddenly theirs. And instead of spending late hours calling in airstrikes and whispering "duck-a-duck" into the microphone before sending in an attack helicopter, I'm busy becoming irritated over random mini-games in Mario Party.

"HEY FAMILY, LOOK AT THIS COOL RACING GAME ISN'T IT AWESOME"

"that's nice dear (bored) Oh hey, let's play something I'll have fun wi-"

"GOD THIS IS SO UNFAIR"

YES

[The Sceneman]

I thought we all were

[Bildi]

Geez duckman, you're being so melodramatic.  Buy a separate TV for the missus and everything will be OK.

Edit: maybe one for yourself would be better...

[AdmiralViscen]

What the fuck is "game party"

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Who's spinning here? Get a grip dude.

[The Sceneman]

What the fuck is "game party"

I think its when youre a fat ninthing nerd and get your friends to bring chips and shit over and play Mario Party and Smash Bros, fart all night, and get hard ons over 'how Nintendo is doing it right' and you call it a party.

[Kestastrophe]

That almost sounds like World of World of Warcraft.

Nah, that's called poop-socking

[duckman2000]

Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there. 

[Brehvolution]

What the fuck is "game party"

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Who's spinning here? Get a grip dude.

I'm a firm believer that sales-age really brings out the absolute worst in people. Myself included. :'(

[The Sceneman]

I dont really pay attention to the numbers, these threads are always just really good

[The Sceneman]

oh thats ok, Ive played Wii with groups of friends several times, Warioware is a blast... but weve never planned it as zomg wii games night, bring chips and cola etc. Basically we'll be smoking weed and drinking and stuff then someone will say hey lets turn the Wii on and its generally pretty funny

[Grecco]

Game Party is that shitty mini game collection by Midway. Has like darts and shit like that.

Good for Midway they needed some sales after how everything else on their catalog has sold like shit including the 30 million dollar bomba Stranglehold

[The Sceneman]

Game Party is that shitty mini game collection by Midway. Has like darts and shit like that.

Good for Midway they needed some sales after how everything else on their catalog has sold like shit including the 30 million dollar bomba Stranglehold

Stranglehold cost that much  Its bad, but so bad its good IMO

[Bildi]

I'm actually thankful for games like WiiSports and WiiPlay. 

Cranking up 'the Nintendo' for parties in previous generations meant stuff like Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party.  And all those games are shit.

[Hollywood]

Nintendo back on top where they belong. At this point today, they've retaken the US hardware lead in consoles for the first time since the SNES era. For those bitching: you shunned the N64, you shunned the Gamecube, and now they did a complete 180 and said fuck graphics, and took a dump on your face, and are more successful than ever. You asked for it.  

[Hollywood]

[siamesedreamer]

I saw three...THREE 40+ year old guys in the Wii section at Best Buy during my lunch break.  :'(

Both the PS3 and 360 sold less than 500k units during the two months surrounding the GTA4 release. Unreal. They gotta drop the fucking prices. Its not rocket science.

[duckman2000]

Cranking up 'the Nintendo' for parties in previous generations meant stuff like Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party.  And all those games are shit.

and Mario Tennis (the N64 version) - which was good
and Mario Golf wasn't bad either

Smash Bros - i just don't get it.
Mario Party - like testicles across a cheese grater.

Speaking of which, is there a Mario Golf on the horizon?

[Grecco]

\

Speaking of which, is there a Mario Golf on the horizon?

Camelot made Wii Love golf instead.

[Bildi]

Cranking up 'the Nintendo' for parties in previous generations meant stuff like Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Mario Party.  And all those games are shit.

and Mario Tennis (the N64 version) - which was good
and Mario Golf wasn't bad either

Smash Bros - i just don't get it.
Mario Party - like testicles across a cheese grater.

I quite liked Mario Golf, never got Mario Tennis.  The problem with these games (and Smash Bros and Mario Kart) is that they can suck when people of different skill levels play.

WiiSports and WiiPlay are much less dependent on skill level or familiarity with the game, so I find them much more enjoyable if people insist on Wii-ing at a get-together.

[Beezy]

  GTA4

I hope it ends up being the worst selling GTA game.

[Van Cruncheon]

Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there. 

fuck, i *am* a selfish prick. i don't want anyone but the folks who love the nerdiest of nerdcore games in my hobby, and i have zero tolerance for casuals, mascot fetishists, nostalgia addicts, manchildren, folks who demand games be "accessible," and dirty smelly gaming hippies of any variety.

[Grecco]

Gaming ended being for the nerdcore the moment FF7 was released prole sad to say. Blame Square for the movement towards mainstream.

[crimsondynamics]

Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there. 

Wait - let me get this straight: you are essentially pissed off because where before you were forced to play shitty board games and socialize, you are now forced to play shitty video games and socialize?

[Narag]

Gaming ended being for the nerdcore the moment FF7 was released prole sad to say. Blame Square for the movement towards mainstream.

No shit. It woudln't have the "BEST GAME EVER" shit attached to it if it weren't for all the new fucking gamers  holding onto it since it was their "first time."

[tiesto]

who cares about any of this, 360 has tons of jrpgs heading its way, im stoked

Yeah, really... as long as MS keeps on spending money on RPG exclusives, I could give fuck-all about sales...

[pilonv1]

agreed - i know nfags will sprout the "but sales means more games" garbage but if I get more of the same on 360 i dont care what outsells it or it outsells

[AdmiralViscen]

what nfags say that sales are more important than games?  Sounds more like a strawman for insecure Xtards

He said that sales mean more games come to the platform.

[Narag]

Oh shit, I need to learn how to read.  Thank you admiral, and I apologize Pilonv.  I am ashamed of myself.

But I don't think it's a bad argument.  Sales are improving for the Wii's software...it'd just be nice if the nintendo seal of quality meant anything.  Game Party? 

Shovelware goes to the victor. Didn't the PS2 have the simple 2000 and phoenix games stuff?

[Narag]

Yes with MGS4 and FFXIII on the way.

[AdmiralViscen]

Oh shit, I need to learn how to read.  Thank you admiral, and I apologize Pilonv.  I am ashamed of myself.

But I don't think it's a bad argument.  Sales are improving for the Wii's software...it'd just be nice if the nintendo seal of quality meant anything.  Game Party? 

It was a good argument in summer 07, it's laughable in summer 08.

[Joe Molotov]

Oh shit, I need to learn how to read.  Thank you admiral, and I apologize Pilonv.  I am ashamed of myself.

But I don't think it's a bad argument.  Sales are improving for the Wii's software...it'd just be nice if the nintendo seal of quality meant anything.  Game Party? 

Game Party's been out for a while, and it's cheap. If you look at some of the more recent OMG CASUAL games that have been released lately (Boom Blox, We Ski), they actually have a decent amount of effort put in them, which could mean maybe third-parties aren't a total lost cause on the Wii. It took them a year or so to get used to the DS too.

[ToxicAdam]

180k 

No wonder Bell got the boot. What a disaster for MS.

How do you have the decided advantage in AAA games and still come in last place?! That's unprecedented.

[Eel O'Brian]

guess sony and ms need to get their respective wagglers out the door pdq

[Eel O'Brian]

180k 

No wonder Bell got the boot. What a disaster for MS.

How do you have the decided advantage in AAA games and still come in last place?! That's unprecedented.

price still too high for mass market, red light stigma, etc

[Phoenix Dark]

PS3 sales 

i guess regular folks haven't heard blu ray won the war. any minute now they'll find out and the PS3 will sky rocket.

360 sales  :'( :'( :'(

wtf is wrong. price cut god dammit.

GTAIV PS3

bubububu playstation brand. seems like it didn't sell either console though

Wii

no comment. no games. no class

[Brehvolution]

Now that the damage is done, it will be interesting to see the June numbers. Not much was released in April due to GTA fallout. Now that NG2 and MGS4 have hit the market, it will be interesting to see where the hardware bumps are.

Will MGS4 only bump the PS3 HW to 300k including the bundle? A kid I work with just got the bundle at wal-mart with the $100 gift card this morning. Now I'm his PS3 mentor as he completes the console trifecta.
Me: Did you get a HDMI cable?
Him: It doesn't come with it?!?
Me: Did your 360?
Him: I got one before it had HDMI
Me: .....

Do I think MGS4 is a system seller? Word of mouth  = Maybe..... See it in action = YES!

[AdmiralViscen]

No one gives a fuck about MGS4.

But they give a fuck about the 80GB.

[etiolate]

Oh yeah, and for anyone who thinks I'm being a selfish prick, keep in mind that prior to the Wii entering the picture, playing video games was generally discouraged during these family functions. Not because people weren't having fun playing games; the other dudes and the kids in the family all had a blast with everything from Halo to MotorStorm. No, it was because the old farts of the family didn't "get" it, so in the interest of keeping the old crew content, it was all about the sitting around and talking, and playing shitty board games. Not these days, though.

So there. 

I always had fun with parties and families playing games like Mario Kart or Soul Calibur. It's just a matter of the game focusing on fun before some other stuff.  Or just the game not trying so hard to prove it's
hardcore, which even kills my interest in the game.

Also, in the wake of what is selling, MGS4 is the total opposite of what Sony needs. Long cinematics, junior fiction writing and homoerotic warfare is not what the doctor ordered.

[Crushed]

[MrSingh]

[fuck, i *am* a selfish prick. i don't want anyone but the folks who love the nerdiest of nerdcore games in my hobby, and i have zero tolerance for casuals, mascot fetishists, nostalgia addicts, manchildren, folks who demand games be "accessible," and dirty smelly gaming hippies of any variety.

Professor Prole

[Phoenix Dark]

people on GAF actually think resistance 2 will be as big as gears of war 2? 

they live in their own world. resistance will do well, but no one gives a fuck about it outside of the internets

[Howard Alan Treesong]

man, they weren't kidding when they said GTA4 didn't move hardware

smh at HD gen

[The Fake Shemp]

LOL AT LUXURY CONSOLEZ

[Sho Nuff]

Yeep @ hardware

[abrader]

Will next gen finally launch fo real with MGS4?

[evilromero]

What the hell is Iron Man PS2 doing on the list? That game hit every system under then sun but the PS2 version cracks the top ten? Strange. And I can't imagine where Wii Fit would be had Nintendo shipped enough to meet demand. Also, I expected much higher Wii numbers.

[Grecco]

Iron Man was 29.99 and living off a bad ass movie. No shock. Just like Transformers PS2 last year.



Anyways. Nobody cares about MGS4 imo. Its not in GTAs level and GTA didnt do squat. Theres also talk that theres only 200k of the 80 gig bundles.

[Kestastrophe]

Nobody cares about MGS4 imo. Its not in GTAs level and GTA didnt do squat. Theres also talk that theres only 200k of the 80 gig bundles.

Plus it seems that this generation is anti-hardcore, and MGS is much more of a core game that GTA.

[duckman2000]

I don't get you people.

PC + Wii is the best combo this gen.

You play all multiplatform titles in superb quality AND you get to play Metroid, Zelda and Mario games.

Plus, if you are into jRPGs then you have to get 360.

Except Zelda and Metroid both suck. 

No, PCthree is where it's at.  Unfortunately, the Wii is going to stick around in the household due to its popularity and casual appeal.

[Smooth Groove]

Duckman, blame Sony.  Wii wouldn't be so sucessful if the PS3 weren't such an underwhelming piece of shit.  Wii delivered on what it was supposed to do and the PS3 didn't. 

[AdmiralViscen]

lol @ MGS 4 will move hardware.

When i picked up GTA4, there was a 20 minute wait worth of people picking it up, a lot of the with consoles.

I went to get MGS, and I got the LE without even pre-ordering the LE.

Sorry man, the dream is over.

Will next gen finally launch fo real with MGS4?

I don't get you people.

PC + Wii is the best combo this gen.

You play all multiplatform titles in superb quality AND you get to play Metroid, Zelda and Mario games.

Plus, if you are into jRPGs then you have to get 360.

Except Zelda and Metroid both suck. 

No, PCthree is where it's at.  Unfortunately, the Wii is going to stick around in the household due to its popularity and casual appeal.

No

[Great Rumbler]

I don't get you people.

PC + Wii is the best combo this gen.

You play all multiplatform titles in superb quality AND you get to play Metroid, Zelda and Mario games.

Plus, if you are into jRPGs then you have to get 360.

I have PC+Wii+360. It's worked out pretty well so far.

[Third]

Remember, this is all that Nfags have; sales. They have nothing else. That platform has the worst line-up I've ever seen, and will continue to do so. Enjoy masturbating to your monthly NPD numbers, you fucking feggits.

I'll have to agree with that.

Wii is selling so well. But why? Good games aren't the reason, that's for sure.

Wii 2 introduction will be exciting. I don't think that th majority of the Wii's userbase will buy a new console. Considering they only bought the console for the hype/gimmick. The most Wii users I know only bought it for WiiSport and WiiFit and they aren't touching the console anymore.

Why should those casual gamers buy Wii's successor..

[hyp]

  it was NPD day yesteray?!

wii = expected
ps3 = expected more since GTA was supposedly a "playstation" franchise
360 = terrible and reminder to DROP THE FUCKING PRICE

handheld wars

overall boring ass NPD.

[Third]

I also forgot it was NPD day.

I guess that's a good thing. Who care about sales when only shit is selling.