I gonna lose weight if it's the last fucking thing I do!

[BlueTsunami]

I think if you've gotten to the point where Jogging for a good 30 min becomes easy for you, its time to introduce HIIT

I think even someone who is overweight can do HIIT but a more light form of it (which is kind of contradictory but the whole Raise/Lower Heart rate premise would still apply). If you r overweight and your worried about stress on your knees, then I would consider an elliptical (at your local Gym!).

HIIT is widely considered to be the best form of Cardio from the opinion on how fast it can lower bodyfat/weight by manipulating the metabolism in the shortest amount of time.

[Raban]

That's good to hear then.

A couple of things

- Don't go cold turkey on things, ween yourself of them. Candy, Juice, Soda and Fast Food. If you go cold turkey, you'll just crave them more down the line. It takes a while but its better to do it right.

too late, already did, and it worked -shrug-

- If you relapse (lol serious word) when it comes to your diet, don't beat yourself up over it. Just go with the flow and stick with your diet. Some people think they need to punish themselves for deviating from their diets, this only places a negative aspect on the whole "Living a healthier life" plan which should be a wholly Positive experience/life change.

Yeah I broke my rules once or twice. I had a couple sodas a day or two ago, but that's about it. I didn't beat myself up about it, just a "don't let it happen again".

- Fruit is good for you but like soda the sugar in the fruit that's taken in excess is turned into fat. Eat Fruit in the Morning and before a Workout/Cardio session.

Yeah, gotta lower my fruit intake. Sometimes I pound through whole half-racks of strawberries like nothing. I used to eat them with sugar too (lul).

Running hard for 30 mins will have an impact if you are taking in less calories than you are using, basically. But you'll probably plateau at some point. That's why I advocate writing everything down. When the improvement from strict cardio tapers off, introduce something new to the mix.

I can't run for 30min. I can't run for 1min. I'll have a heart attack. I've tried jogging for long periods of time and after maybe 25ft of jogging I suffer extreme heart palpitations and labored breathing for a minimum of like 10 minutes afterwards.

btw, max squat of 450lbs?

Something's gotta carry my body around, man. My thighs measured from under my ass cheek are like 35in around each.

[Mupepe]

that's fine.  the key to running for 30 minutes is getting your heart rate up.  start off slow.  as long as you're actually working your body.  don't puss out on it though

[Raban]

that's fine.  the key to running for 30 minutes is getting your heart rate up.  start off slow.  as long as you're actually working your body.  don't puss out on it though

Yeah I completely forget my target heart rate.

[Mupepe]

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/hr.shtml

[Raban]

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/hr.shtml

See, I googled that right away, problem is, don't know my resting heart rate.

"Why don't you just CHECK, idiot?"

Because there's too much fat around my neck to feel my pulse. Not kidding. Same with the wrists. Even in PE we had to use a machine to get my resting heart rate, and I've forgotten that. I think my target was somewhere around 170.

[Cormacaroni]

btw, max squat of 450lbs?

Something's gotta carry my body around, man. My thighs measured from under my ass cheek are like 35in around each.

Even so...I'm guessing no-one in this thread can teach you much about lifting heavy I'm thinking you just need a lot more variety in your workouts. Anyone who can lift that much has pretty serious mental fortitude as far as I'm concerned. You can do anything you want to, 'cause nothing will be harder than squatting or deadlifting heavy. It might take longer, but it won't be any harder That's what I tell myself on long runs these days...every second of this is easy compared to HIIT or heavy weights, it's just that it takes longer...

[Raban]

Oh shit, you may not think I'm that great anymore. Forgot to mention I don't do free weight squats. I'm not flexible enough to hold the bar behind my neck, so I had to use the machine where you're sitting down facing upwards and pushing a panel with all the weight on it up and away from your body.

[Cormacaroni]

well, 450lbs is 450lbs, to paraphrase Henry Rollins! If you put 450lbs on a barbell on the floor and told me to lift it or you'd shoot me, I'd tell you to go ahead and shoot me 

If you have shoulder flexibility issues, try 'shoulder dislocations'. Start with a long towel or something if it's too hard with a bar or broomstick. They work very quickly. Again, this is something you're going to need for parkour or gymnastics anyway, so you may as well start now.

[youtube=425,350]33P5AI27eiU[/youtube]

[Raban]

well, 450lbs is 450lbs, to paraphrase Henry Rollins! If you put 450lbs on a barbell on the floor and told me to lift it or you'd shoot me, I'd tell you to go ahead and shoot me 

If you have shoulder flexibility issues, try 'shoulder dislocations'. Start with a long towel or something if it's too hard with a bar or broomstick. They work very quickly. Again, this is something you're going to need for parkour or gymnastics anyway, so you may as well start now.

[youtube=425,350]33P5AI27eiU[/youtube]

I'm gonna work on flexibility when there isn't so much fat tucked around every one of my joints and limbs.

[Cormacaroni]

well, 450lbs is 450lbs, to paraphrase Henry Rollins! If you put 450lbs on a barbell on the floor and told me to lift it or you'd shoot me, I'd tell you to go ahead and shoot me 

If you have shoulder flexibility issues, try 'shoulder dislocations'. Start with a long towel or something if it's too hard with a bar or broomstick. They work very quickly. Again, this is something you're going to need for parkour or gymnastics anyway, so you may as well start now.

[youtube=425,350]33P5AI27eiU[/youtube]

I'm gonna work on flexibility when there isn't so much fat tucked around every one of my joints and limbs.

Not a valid excuse, I'm afraid. Fat is very flexible. It's your muscles that are inflexible.

[Raban]

I'm simply not comfortable flexing when it's already laborious to move my limbs around within their limits. Don't worry man, I'll get into that stuff

[BlueTsunami]

I have to say that stretching and various flexibility regimens are non existent in my workout plans. I need to incorporate them more, especially when it comes to the flexibility of my hams when it comes to squats.

[xnikki118x]

No advice here, but good luck!

[Cormacaroni]

You NEED to stretch, otherwise you'll get injured, preventing you from training. Also, being inflexible severely limits the range of exercise/sports available to you. If you don't have proper depth on your squat, you don't get the full benefit of the exercise. If you squat too much weight while your hams are tight, you're gonna strain or tear them, simple as that. It's annoying because stretching hurts, takes a lot of time, and the effects can be hard to see, but still...you have to do it.

[Cormacaroni]

I'm simply not comfortable flexing when it's already laborious to move my limbs around within their limits. Don't worry man, I'll get into that stuff

Suck it up, buttercup!

Yeah, it's not all gonna happen overnight, I know. But flexibility is somethat that you can start on right away, and will have some immediate results. Don't make me post vids of sumo wrestlers doing the splits!

[Raban]

You NEED to stretch, otherwise you'll get injured, preventing you from training. Also, being inflexible severely limits the range of exercise/sports available to you. If you don't have proper depth on your squat, you don't get the full benefit of the exercise. If you squat too much weight while your hams are tight, you're gonna strain or tear them, simple as that. It's annoying because stretching hurts, takes a lot of time, and the effects can be hard to see, but still...you have to do it.

But I don't squat regularly, son.

I'm only gonna be doing the tread/elliptical/whatever. I suppose I'll start stretching.

Also, nobody's answered me outright. So hitting an elliptical for 30 minutes of elevated heart rate every day mixed with dieting will do me good?

[Christopher]

I'll give you three days before you give up.

[Raban]

I'll give you three days before you give up.

Can you read? Here, let me show you how.

I
HAVE
FUCK-ING
DONE
THIS
FOR
THREE
MONTHS
AL-READY
LOL

Get the fuck out of my thread, chief!

Dieting, elliptical, lifting, ALL OF IT. Been there, done that. This place has fucking cancer, I swear.

[Boogie]

See, I believe I've seen you post this before. Can you add some sort of explanation? Every gym teacher at my school recommended at a high rep/low weight program.

Well, you have some pretty dumb gym teachers then.  Such high rep exercises don't really stress the muscles enough to grow or build.  All it really ends up being is a really inefficient way of burning calories.  You're not building muscle in any way with such high reps, and don't say "bu-bu-bu I want to tone my muscles", because as I say below, you can't spot reduce fat.  I used to do 8-12 rep sets.  The highest I would go rep-wise would be a crossfit program, which, tend to be more high-intensity endurance programs where the emphasis is on speed.  And even then, I think crossfit exercises top out at 21 reps.

Whoa whoa dude, I was only interested in information, I'm not against you here. I just wanna know why. You can't come into a thread and say everything said so far is wrong and just jam out. Thanks for explaining.

Sure I can, this is evilbore

[Boogie]

Oh shit, you may not think I'm that great anymore. Forgot to mention I don't do free weight squats. I'm not flexible enough to hold the bar behind my neck, so I had to use the machine where you're sitting down facing upwards and pushing a panel with all the weight on it up and away from your body.

Ah.  That's not "max squatting 450lbs" then.  Big fucking difference between leg pressing and squatting.

[BlueTsunami]

Isn't that a leg press?

A real squat (as in dropping your legs below parallel with your knees) = fucking hard with heavy weights

[BamYouHaveAids]

You seem very angry.

[Boogie]

You seem very angry.

I have a lot of real-life frustration right now that I feel like taking out on teh internets via vulgar language.  meh.

[BamYouHaveAids]

You seem very angry.

I have a lot of real-life frustration right now that I feel like taking out on teh internets via vulgar language.  meh.

I meant raban.. I thought he would be more you know, more jolly. Due to all the good advice.

[Kestastrophe]

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

I've tried it and it works.

[Draft]

I can max squat around 450lbs

How do you max squat 450 and need workout advice?

[Cormacaroni]

I can max squat around 450lbs

How do you max squat 450 and need workout advice?

This was the source of some misunderstanding, since resolved...

[Mupepe]

Dieting, elliptical, lifting, ALL OF IT. Been there, done that.

How much did you weigh before?

[MrSingh]

Do some power yoga too!

[Raban]

Dieting, elliptical, lifting, ALL OF IT. Been there, done that.

How much did you weigh before?

Before I went to the gym in 2006, I weighed around 315, dropped to 295, and now I don't know how much I weigh.

You seem very angry.

Only when users, amidst the tidal wave of helpful posts, decide to make ham-fisted jokes or reply sarcastically. I am happy that people are helping me out, but I'm unhappy that I haven't made a single thread that isn't plagued by some asshole's idea of being clever/funny. But I digress.

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

I've tried it and it works.

Really, man, really, I can't run, at all. Running/jogging a distance longer than 10ft is not an option for me. I'm not kidding.

[Boogie]

Only when users, amidst the tidal wave of helpful posts, decide to make ham-fisted jokes or reply sarcastically. I am happy that people are helping me out, but I'm unhappy that I haven't made a single thread that isn't plagued by some asshole's idea of being clever/funny. But I digress.

Perhaps....you don't understand the nature of this forum.

[Raban]

Only when users, amidst the tidal wave of helpful posts, decide to make ham-fisted jokes or reply sarcastically. I am happy that people are helping me out, but I'm unhappy that I haven't made a single thread that isn't plagued by some asshole's idea of being clever/funny. But I digress.

Perhaps....you don't understand the nature of this forum.

I do, I'm just never going to warm up to it.

[Boogie]

Only when users, amidst the tidal wave of helpful posts, decide to make ham-fisted jokes or reply sarcastically. I am happy that people are helping me out, but I'm unhappy that I haven't made a single thread that isn't plagued by some asshole's idea of being clever/funny. But I digress.

Perhaps....you don't understand the nature of this forum.

Well, that's a shame.  It's a wonder that you bother to stay, then.

I do, I'm just never going to warm up to it.

[Raban]

Only when users, amidst the tidal wave of helpful posts, decide to make ham-fisted jokes or reply sarcastically. I am happy that people are helping me out, but I'm unhappy that I haven't made a single thread that isn't plagued by some asshole's idea of being clever/funny. But I digress.

Perhaps....you don't understand the nature of this forum.

Well, that's a shame.  It's a wonder that you bother to stay, then.

I do, I'm just never going to warm up to it.

It's not for much longer. Soon as I lose weight, there won't be a legitimate reason for me to be inside a house for more than an hour ever again, and only in boredom do I visit EB nowadays.

[Kestastrophe]

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

I've tried it and it works.

Do you work out at any of the gyms around here?

Just the fitness room at my apartment complex. I do try to jog on KL ave from Drake to campus every other day. If I were employed, I would probably be a member of a gym, but as of right now I can't afford it.

[Boogie]

Only when users, amidst the tidal wave of helpful posts, decide to make ham-fisted jokes or reply sarcastically. I am happy that people are helping me out, but I'm unhappy that I haven't made a single thread that isn't plagued by some asshole's idea of being clever/funny. But I digress.

Perhaps....you don't understand the nature of this forum.

Well, that's a shame.  It's a wonder that you bother to stay, then.

I do, I'm just never going to warm up to it.

It's not for much longer. Soon as I lose weight, there won't be a legitimate reason for me to be inside a house for more than an hour ever again, and only in boredom do I visit EB nowadays.

You're gonna sleep on the streets?

[Raban]

Only when users, amidst the tidal wave of helpful posts, decide to make ham-fisted jokes or reply sarcastically. I am happy that people are helping me out, but I'm unhappy that I haven't made a single thread that isn't plagued by some asshole's idea of being clever/funny. But I digress.

Perhaps....you don't understand the nature of this forum.

Well, that's a shame.  It's a wonder that you bother to stay, then.

I do, I'm just never going to warm up to it.

It's not for much longer. Soon as I lose weight, there won't be a legitimate reason for me to be inside a house for more than an hour ever again, and only in boredom do I visit EB nowadays.

You're gonna sleep on the streets?

Sure!

[Powerslave]

HEY GUYS IM GONNA BE SO COOL WHEN I LOSE SOME WEIGHT ILL NEVER USE THE INTERNET ANYMORE ILL JUST BE OUTSIDE AND CHILLIN WITH MY BROS AND GET LAID AND HAVE FUN BECAUSE IM NOT GONNA BE A FAT PIG ANYMORE BUT IN THE MEANTIME HELP ME THE FUCK OUT WITH EVERYTHING I NEED UNTIL I LEAVE THIS SHITHOLE FOREVER BECAUSE IT SUCKS

[Kestastrophe]

You're not able to find a job anywhere?  Man...stop scaring me dude.  You have your CPA and masters, right?

No CPA, yet. But I plan to sit in the July-August window for at least the Financial section. Dude, it's weird because I've applied for hourly jobs and they rightfully are scared away by my Master's degree. But at the same time, I can't find a job in my field because I only have a Grad Assistantship and a CPA internship under my belt. I should have just quit at bachelors

[APF]

Oooh... that was a 450 leg press or whatever.  That makes more sense.  Leg presses are a good way to hurt yourself; the range of motion is weird for leg presses (usually very short because of the nature of the exercise) and it's easy to curl your lower back under an enormous weight because of this.  In contrast squats will help strengthen your LB--plus you'll have a longer ROM, be using less weight, and you'll start tipping over if you curl your LB too much (yeah, I consider that a good thing).

[APF]

Here's another note, about flexibility: static stretching (ie hold a stretch position for a number of seconds) before / during exercise will actually weaken you during your work sets (you're asking the nervous system to do two conflicting / opposing things).  It's better to do some light activity to literally "warm" the body, perform some dynamic movements (leg / arm swings, joint rotations, things like that), and do a couple of low volume, low intensity ramp-up sets of the exercise in question; a good warmup should prime the nervous system for the work you're doing, not create fatigue or anything like that.

[APF]

Yeah, I get sick from squats every once in a while.  Plus I sometimes "white-out" / headrush after squats or deadlifts, which is just a joy to experience 

[BlueTsunami]

Squats do that to me too. Its such a horrible feeling. Its like you feeling a vomit coming on but it never happens. It sucks if your trying to do a full body workout that includes squats.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Yeah, I get sick from squats every once in a while.  Plus I sometimes "white-out" / headrush after squats or deadlifts, which is just a joy to experience 

Are you kidding?  I love that feeling.  I also love the fact that I can't walk for the next two days.

[Raban]

HEY GUYS IM GONNA BE SO COOL WHEN I LOSE SOME WEIGHT ILL NEVER USE THE INTERNET ANYMORE ILL JUST BE OUTSIDE AND CHILLIN WITH MY BROS AND GET LAID AND HAVE FUN BECAUSE IM NOT GONNA BE A FAT PIG ANYMORE BUT IN THE MEANTIME HELP ME THE FUCK OUT WITH EVERYTHING I NEED UNTIL I LEAVE THIS SHITHOLE FOREVER BECAUSE IT SUCKS

Auto-pilot ftw!

[cool breeze]

well, 450lbs is 450lbs, to paraphrase Henry Rollins! If you put 450lbs on a barbell on the floor and told me to lift it or you'd shoot me, I'd tell you to go ahead and shoot me 

If you have shoulder flexibility issues, try 'shoulder dislocations'. Start with a long towel or something if it's too hard with a bar or broomstick. They work very quickly. Again, this is something you're going to need for parkour or gymnastics anyway, so you may as well start now.

[youtube=425,350]33P5AI27eiU[/youtube]

WTF.  How do you even do that once?