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http://www.avclub.com/content/cinema/hellboy_ii_the_golden_army

They also compare it to 12 Angry Men and say that it has the best rape scene since Straw Dogs.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 02:57:00 AM »
I see what you did there.
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 03:02:16 AM »
Don't you have some big hard cocks to be sucking?
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 03:13:18 AM »
Im gunna watch me sum batman begins bluray tomorrow night methinks
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 03:22:48 AM »
I wanna see both, but I wanna see hellboy more cause it'll make me laugh more than batman, a movie with a clown.


Clowns aren't funny.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 03:24:02 AM »
 your avatar kinda looks like the new joker
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 03:27:25 AM »
Random Guy: "Its Hellboy, damn your ugly"

~Later on~

New Random Guy: "HEY ITS HELLBOY!"

Hellboy: "I know, I know, I'm ugly"

MOvies gonna rock
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 03:30:21 AM »
In this movie, Batman should cannibalize The Joker in order to gain his superior acting ability.
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 03:34:59 AM »
He could probably just cannibalize the character from A Knight's Tale, I mean since he's such a good actor.

edit: Or wuz, am i rite.

Seriously, I guess all it takes is to make a movie where youre gay then die in a DC Comics movie.
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 03:37:38 AM »
wait, did some of you actually enjoy the first hellboy? 

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 03:38:38 AM »
I liked the part where he made jokes and hit stuff
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 03:39:00 AM »
wait, did some of you actually enjoy the first hellboy? 

smh
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 03:39:10 AM »
wait, did some of you actually enjoy the first hellboy? 

I wouldn't say it's a great movie, but it's an entertaining popcorn flick, and better than Batman Begins.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 03:40:12 AM »
Del Toro :bow

The Hobbit is going to fucking rock
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 03:40:21 AM »
lolz trollz
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2008, 04:50:07 AM »
 It would do Bale some good to 'cannibalize' a knight's tale or something of its essence... where mischief or a glint of silliness could build his rep away from the cheerless characters he plays with similar solemn pauses.

 what's up next for him.... he's playing a fed, a 'last hope' army leader in an apocalyptic setting , and another fed

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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2008, 07:28:49 AM »
i think i'll see hellboy this weekend even though i didn't really like the first one
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2008, 08:36:46 AM »
I wanna go see this, but can this week... I'm on call for after hours at work and it would suck to go to see this and then have to leave.. :(
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2008, 09:15:37 AM »
It would do Bale some good to 'cannibalize' a knight's tale or something of its essence... where mischief or a glint of silliness could build his rep away from the cheerless characters he plays with similar solemn pauses.

 what's up next for him.... he's playing a fed, a 'last hope' army leader in an apocalyptic setting , and another fed

 :gloomy

While I agree that Bale tends to the morose, it's not like he's incapable of what you're talking about.  Remember that he was Patrick fucking Bateman, you know.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2008, 09:59:47 AM »
the nyt review was also excellent

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Published: July 11, 2008

There are moments in “Hellboy 2: The Golden Army,” Guillermo del Toro’s profligate sequel to “Hellboy,” capable of delighting even the most jaded, comic-book-weary summer-blockbuster conscript. (That would be me.) Lately we have seen plenty of big, asphalt-smashing street battles between hero and nemesis — Tim Roth and Edward Norton, hopped up on military growth hormones, hurling cars across Harlem in “The Incredible Hulk”; Charlize Theron and Will Smith enacting some kind of meteorological superhero S & M in “Hancock” — but nothing quite like the scene in which Ron Perlman’s Hellboy, a baby in one hand and an oversize gun in the other, mixes it up with a giant, angry plant.

What makes that sequence memorable is not just the visual audacity of the stunts and effects, but also the weird animist vibe that the photosynthesizing fiend gives off. He might have sprung from the pastoral imagination of the Japanese animator Hayao Miyazaki, if Mr. Miyazaki’s environmentalism inclined him toward anger rather than sorrow. And even after Hellboy carries out a necessary and brutal pruning, a moment of mourning is permitted. That raging vine, after all, was the last of an endangered species.

Which is not to say that “Hellboy 2” is exactly, or primarily, an ecological allegory, though it does have some twinklings of green consciousness amid all the red- and gold-hued mayhem. There is just too much else going on to single out any particular theme or mood, which is part of the movie’s charm and also, sometimes, a source of exasperation.

Mr. Perlman, painted bright red and outfitted with sawed-off horns and an extra-large fist, is happy to ignore the trappings of digital-era cinematic splendor and act like the cigar-chomping hero of an old black-and-white B picture. The script (and the comics by Mike Mignola that are the movies’ source) may identify the character as a demon exiled from the underworld, but as a movie archetype Hellboy is more like the gruff sergeant or the cynical gumshoe, with a soft heart, naturally, beating under the hard shell. In Mr. Perlman’s performance you catch glimpses of Bogey and Lee Marvin and hints of Robert Mitchum and George Kennedy, all blended with devilish glee and disarmingly sexy sincerity.

And the movie itself is similarly easygoing in its eclecticism. The story is a happy hodgepodge of bantering humor and portentous metaphysics, packing a remarkable range of moods and genre elements into a fairly compact 110 minutes. The love between Hellboy and the downcast, combustible Liz Sherman (Selma Blair) gives this film, like its precursor, an undercurrent of hard-boiled, noirish romanticism. There are also Tolkienish elves (as Mr. del Toro limbers up for “The Hobbit”), officious bureaucrats and a showstopping Barry Manilow song washed down with many cans of Tecate beer. The whole affair is pulpy, jokey, sometimes touching and frequently nonsensical: a big mess and, mostly, a lot of fun.

An ancient truce between the elves and the humans has been broken by an angry blond elf-prince (Luke Goss), who robs an auction house and whose twin sister (Anna Walton) bleeds maple syrup whenever he is injured. Back at the top-secret paranormal government lab where Hellboy grouchily works, his put-upon boss (the indispensable Jeffrey Tambor) welcomes a new authority figure, the punctilious Dr. Johann Kraus, a puff of gas with a creaky diving suit and a Prussian accent (voiced by Seth MacFarlane). Abe Sapien (Doug Jones), Hellboy’s begilled foil and sidekick, returns and this time finds some romance of his own.

But enough summarizing. Mr. del Toro has made delicate, finely modulated films in the past (“The Devil’s Backbone” and “Pan’s Labyrinth,” most notably). Here, though, with a big budget to play with and a pop-culture franchise to tend, he lets abundance trump coherence.

Like the ancient king who builds an army of nearly 5,000 enchanted mechanical warriors (the Golden Army of the film’s title), this director is a compulsive and prodigious maker of creatures, and for this movie he seems to have opened up his notebooks and let his imagination run free. Around every corner is a strange new beast or gizmo, from the tiny, swarming “tooth fairies” who devour a room full of art collectors to the slimy denizens of the troll market, one of whom has what looks like an infant attached to its chest. “I’m not a baby, I’m a tumor,” the appendage explains.

“Hellboy 2” is not a great movie — its narrative is at once too busy and too perfunctory — but like that sassy little tumor, it is lovable in its prodigious grotesquery. It was made with the kind of heedless, geeky enthusiasm that has been drained out of the standard, somber superhero melodramas that crowd the multiplexes these days. It’s an artful, clever throwaway that may, over time, turn into a valuable collectible.

“Hellboy 2” is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). It has some scary monsters, grown-up problems and salty lingo.

HELLBOY II

The Golden Army

Opens on Friday nationwide.

Directed by Guillermo del Toro; written by Mr. del Toro, based on a story by Mr. del Toro and Mike Mignola and on the Dark Horse comic by Mr. Mignola; director of photography, Guillermo Navarro; edited by Bernat Vilaplana; music by Danny Elfman; production designer, Stephen Scott; creature and makeup effects by Mike Elizalde; produced by Lawrence Gordon, Mike Richardson and Lloyd Levin; released by Universal Pictures. Running time: 1 hour 50 minutes.

WITH: Ron Perlman (Hellboy), Selma Blair (Liz Sherman), Doug Jones (Abe Sapien/Chamberlain/Angel of Death), Jeffrey Tambor (Tom Manning), Luke Goss (Prince Nuada), Anna Walton (Princess Nuala), Seth MacFarlane (voice of Johann Kraus) and John Hurt (Trevor Buttenholm).
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2008, 10:22:46 AM »
Bale's performance as Bateman makes him > than most. The phone confession at the end should have got HIM an oscar you fucks.
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2008, 10:31:29 AM »
Hellboy 1 is laughably bad outside of the first few minutes. I just can't take it seriously: not a fan of the hero (or the way he looks) or his c-list sidekicks. I'll give the sequel a chance because Pan's was omg, and the Devil's Backbone was good
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2008, 10:42:49 AM »
Bale is sooo > Ledger
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2008, 10:44:58 AM »
ledger took a big cowboy cock up his twinklefish, though!
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2008, 10:46:45 AM »
sounds like maf wants bale up his twinkefish
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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2008, 10:49:38 AM »
that knocking sound is coming from inside YOUR closet, my downlow bro
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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2008, 10:50:06 AM »
bale is cool and everything but he's no father mike
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2008, 10:53:47 AM »
I predict both will be overrated. Hellboy II because of Pan's Labyrinth-colored glasses, and TDK because of the whole internet Batman love thing.

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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2008, 10:57:04 AM »
you lost your ebert card when you praised get smart and speed racer. gtfo

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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2008, 10:59:22 AM »
a gay movie and a superhero movie cannot trump bale's work
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2008, 11:13:56 AM »
i'd say hellboy is a little better than bb in the fact that it doesn't take itself so seriously and try to present its goofiness as realism in an attempt to satisfy all the middle-aged nerds in their desperate quest for comic book superhero legitimacy

bb would have been much better had it embraced the fact that, taking everything else into account, it's still just a movie about a dude wearing armored underwear and sailing through the city on his magical glider wings
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2008, 11:16:39 AM »
they're not magical, they are engineered that way!
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2008, 11:17:45 AM »
by the magical science man
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2008, 11:29:57 AM »
you lost your ebert card when you praised get smart and speed racer. gtfo




speed racer is fuck awesome. gtfo yourself
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2008, 11:30:44 AM »
the racism in true romance left PD feeling uncomfortable so yeah...

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2008, 11:35:11 AM »
hang gliders are now magical


oh mine god what be these iron birdes in the skye they must be fowl daemons
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2008, 11:37:25 AM »
you lost your ebert card when you praised get smart and speed racer. gtfo


speed racer is fuck awesome. gtfo yourself

If you're a distinguished mentally-challenged child amused by pretty colors, perhaps.
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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2008, 11:37:41 AM »
Hellboy 2 had alot of moments that were cringe worthy. Almost every line of dialogue that the elf prince (the bad guy) delivers is just god awful LOTR fan fiction garbage.

And then dont even get me started about the scene where hellboy was a kid. I could feel the whole audience collectively groan at most of that scene.

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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2008, 11:41:55 AM »
hang gliders are now magical


oh mine god what be these iron birdes in the skye they must be fowl daemons

get yourself a cape

run some electricity through it

jump off a building

report realistic results here

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2008, 11:47:41 AM »
hang gliders are now magical


oh mine god what be these iron birdes in the skye they must be fowl daemons

get yourself a cape

run some electricity through it

jump off a building

report realistic results here



hey hey hey polymers that can become rigid and whatnot when electrically charged are possible, just not as advanced currently as in the movie
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2008, 01:34:01 PM »
Speed Racer rawks.  Phoenix Dark fails yet again.
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2008, 01:39:25 PM »
PD didnt like Unforgiven either. What a tard-butt
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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2008, 02:11:20 PM »
For some reason I really want to see this.  That'll be two comic based movies in one month.  Christ what is happening to me.

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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2008, 02:56:29 PM »
For some reason I really want to see this.  That'll be two comic based movies in one month.  Christ what is happening to me.

EB has affected me deeply.

That's what we like to hear. :hump
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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2008, 03:27:44 PM »
Hellboy 2 :hyper

2 hours! :hyper :hyper
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« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2008, 03:29:49 PM »
Can't wait to see it.
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« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2008, 04:08:59 PM »
I hated in hellboy 1 they made Rasputin such a little bitch at the end. He was this like super fast spy but now he's killed easily by Hellboy?
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2008, 04:13:51 PM »
traffic is HOSED so I think I'll catch the 5:15 of hellboy instead
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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2008, 04:14:50 PM »
Holy shit, I forgot that today was Friday. Or something.
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2008, 07:20:45 PM »
Movie was really good. Better than the first in nearly every regard. Maybe a little too jam packed here and there thanks to Del Toro getting to do whatever he wants, but when the superfluous stuff is as visually stunning as this... I'll let it slid.

Now on to Batman next week!
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« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2008, 07:25:20 PM »
oh i totally skipped out

traffic was fine

i'll go see it tomorrow

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« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2008, 08:30:41 PM »
you lost your ebert card when you praised get smart and speed racer. gtfo



Speed Racer is still the best thing Ive seen this year, and Get Smart was at least better than Indy IV and Hancock. I feel no shame. Besides, you like Forrest Gump. Screw film-reviewing, you've lost every credibility card.

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« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2008, 09:14:23 PM »
I dont know what people expected from Get Smart? Half the people bitching havent seen even a few eps of the original. Course I could be biased cuz of Anne
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« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2008, 09:46:46 PM »
you lost your ebert card when you praised get smart and speed racer. gtfo



Speed Racer is still the best thing Ive seen this year, and Get Smart was at least better than Indy IV and Hancock. I feel no shame. Besides, you like Forrest Gump. Screw film-reviewing, you've lost every credibility card.

As someone who has a smidgen more credibility than Pee Dee, I would like to say that Speed Racer is a terrible film and that all of you are allowing your nerdiness to cloud your judgment.
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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2008, 10:57:17 PM »
As someone who has a smidgen more credibility than Pee Dee, I would like to say that Speed Racer is a terrible film and that all of you are allowing your nerdiness to cloud your judgment.

you still haven't seen it, i take it?

if so, you're passing judgment based upon false pretenses

what's next?  libertarianism?

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« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2008, 11:29:45 PM »
As someone who has a smidgen more credibility than Pee Dee, I would like to say that Speed Racer is a terrible film and that all of you are allowing your nerdiness to cloud your judgment.

you still haven't seen it, i take it?

if so, you're passing judgment based upon false pretenses

what's next?  libertarianism?

lolz, I watched it on joox.  It sucked.  Nerdy people like nerdy things, it's ok guys just admit it.  Movie was crap.
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« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2008, 12:03:31 AM »
Hellboy 2 was very good, I liked it a lot. Lots of stunning shots, action was good, very entertaining throughout. Better than the first, definitely.

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« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2008, 04:47:41 AM »
As someone who has a smidgen more credibility than Pee Dee, I would like to say that Speed Racer is a terrible film and that all of you are allowing your nerdiness to cloud your judgment.

you still haven't seen it, i take it?

if so, you're passing judgment based upon false pretenses

what's next?  libertarianism?

lolz, I watched it on joox.  It sucked.  Nerdy people like nerdy things, it's ok guys just admit it.  Movie was crap.

Speed Racer was great, and still the best movie I've seen in a theater this summer by a large and colorful amount. I am sorry you didn't like it, but it still has merit!

And I never liked the original cartoon (or saw it, even) so it wasn't any sort of a nostalgia trip. And The Matrix Revolutions is probably the greatest betrayal I've seen in theaters.
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« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2008, 05:18:23 AM »
Hellboy 2 was a lot looser, funnier and visually impressive than the first one, but the structure is a mess and too much is left on the hook for a third installment.  It felt like one part of a two part finale.  Kind of irked me.  See it for the production design and some good character moments (they actually make Abe and Hellboy look like friends), but those expecting a good overall movie out of this will probably be disappointed.
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Re: AV Club: "Hellboy II is simply a better movie than The Dark Knight."
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2008, 02:17:03 PM »
you lost your ebert card when you praised get smart and speed racer. gtfo



Speed Racer is still the best thing Ive seen this year, and Get Smart was at least better than Indy IV and Hancock. I feel no shame. Besides, you like Forrest Gump. Screw film-reviewing, you've lost every credibility card.

As someone who has a smidgen more credibility than Pee Dee, I would like to say that Speed Racer is a terrible film and that all of you are allowing your nerdiness to cloud your judgment.

But you haven't seen SR. As for the nerdiness bit, of all the things I love/geek out over, anime isn't one of them (in fact I pretty much hate it), so nerdgasm dont come into play with SR. I also hated the Wachowski Bros after Matrix 2 and 3, so thats another strike SR had going against it. I just think SR overcame both those barriers by leaps and bounds and was way more awesome than I ever thought imaginable.