360: Copy entire games to HDD, blades as guide, 'party' on all past 360 games

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

i'd prefer to do all this in a 3d world with avatars thanks.

agreed, if I can't have my own apartment with the ability to develop warhawk strategies with my clan and watch the newest QORE then it's of no interest to me

Can't wait to see who's going to be using these pre-game "war rooms".  These are the people that need to be griefed until our throats are sore.

[cool breeze]

I will probably never use that war room stuff, but I will probably play the Uncharted 2D game.

[DJ_Tet]

Any word on 1080p 24 support (mainly for hd-doa?)

I won't hold my breath  :'(

[MCD]

http://www.vimeo.com/1479143?pg=embed&sec=1479143

direct link: http://bitcast.vimeo.com/vimeo/videos/84/76/52/84765290/84765290_31_fc5dc96927.flv?e=1218282730&h=a85683343a4945dda4102c6344558a68

installing gta4, 6.9gigs.

[maxy]

http://www.vimeo.com/1479143?pg=embed&sec=1479143

direct link: http://bitcast.vimeo.com/vimeo/videos/84/76/52/84765290/84765290_31_fc5dc96927.flv?e=1218282730&h=a85683343a4945dda4102c6344558a68

installing gta4, 6.9gigs.

It's 6.8GB not 6.9GB...

[MCD]

the thought that counts!

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.vimeo.com/1479143?pg=embed&sec=1479143

direct link: http://bitcast.vimeo.com/vimeo/videos/84/76/52/84765290/84765290_31_fc5dc96927.flv?e=1218282730&h=a85683343a4945dda4102c6344558a68

installing gta4, 6.9gigs.

it's pretty funny that you can hear the roar of that dude's 360 throughout the video

[cool breeze]

Yeah, I probably am not going to be using that feature.  Only 11 gigs on my 360 hard drive and I don't want to stress that machine to much installing disks.  That is exactly how my old big PS2 started to fail, by installing games to HD Loader.

The interface doesn't look bad, but it still seems pretty slow.  It is the weird thing the 360 interface does where when scroll through objects, it needs to touch on every single one.  Like, if you type on the PS3 and compare it to the 360, just hold right to scroll past the in-game keyboard causes the cursor to swiftly move to the other side, but the 360 has to stop on every letter and just speeds things up.  This is a minor complaint I always had with it, but I wish they would have addressed it in this new firmware.  Hopefully this wasn't the final version of the dash.

[MCD]

i don't like how the icons disappear when you go to the right, they should make it visible on both directions like media center. 

[MCD]

see what i mean?

right, left, up and down all visible.

[AdmiralViscen]

installing gta4, 6.9gigs.

6.9 gigs? I THOUGHT IT WAS PUSHING DVD TO THE BRINK!

Pretty sure 360 discs only allow 7.5GB.

[Eel O'Brian]

i'll only be installing huge open world games that i intend to spend a great deal of time playing, like fallout 3

probably won't install stuff like call of duty

but this is just a ms baby step towards digital distribution of full games, really

[WrikaWrek]

Geez, since E3 it has been all about good MS news. Aside from Rage vs 2 dvds

[cool breeze]

And Burnout Paradise patch delays, but that is hardly something to care much about.

[brawndolicious]

i can't wait to sploit it, store most of my 360 collection on the HDD and just leave one disc in the drive forever

I think it's saying that you can switch to hard drive installed games directly from the guide which would mean that yeah, you could just rent or download games, put them on then drive, and then keep a random disk in there.  MS probably thought about that though and in reality, you have to put in the actual game's disk before playing it off of the drive.

[Jansen]

Yeah, I probably am not going to be using that feature.  Only 11 gigs on my 360 hard drive and I don't want to stress that machine to much installing disks.  That is exactly how my old big PS2 started to fail, by installing games to HD Loader.

this probably the dumbest post i've seen in relation to 360 hdd installs

complaining about lack of space is one thing, but stressing the console? bitch please. you're stressing the system FAR LESS by installing to the hdd.

less heat and not to mention the fact you won't be putting constant strain on one of the 360's uber fail prone components.

[cool breeze]

Like I said, my PS2 got fucked up because I kept installing disks to it.  Then again, I installed almost every PS2 game I had to HD Loader, so maybe that did it in.  And in the 22 minutes or so that guy copied GTA4 to his hard drive, the DVD drive would need to spin like crazy and load the entire DVD to the console.  Chances are that it wouldn't normally spin at that speed even in the duration of the entire game.  It probably is the same for the PS3.  I think most games on 360 have reasonable load times, so if I do use it, it will be for something like Dead Rising or PGR4.  And I probably would actually use it a lot more if/when I buy a second 360.  I am hoping Microsoft does a redesign or something, or at least a sizable drop in price for the Elite.  I do want HDMI support as well.

[maxy]

Its about 10 minutes not 22 minutes,360 doesn't have slow-ass blu-ray

As for the installing killing consoles all i have to say is   
PC failure rate is then 100%
360 DVD drive is always spinning at maximum speed(12x),xbox games excluded.

[cool breeze]

Well, then I am mistaken on that.  I just compared it to the closest comparison I had in my experience with consoles.  I still think it is an awesome feature, and despite having a small hard drive, I can at least install one game at a time, but I don't think I would really need to for most 360 games.

And I don't remember exactly where, but I remember seeing 22 minutes in relation to this video.  Maybe it was on gaf and total bullshit.  Whatever.

[MCD]

wait, maxy.

don't dual layer 360 games run at only 8x?

[maxy]

wait, maxy.

don't dual layer 360 games run at only 8x?

That is an interesting question,drive spins at 12x no doubt,there are custom firmwares that can force drive to spin max 12x,8x,5x,2x and the drive is much quieter at 8x then normal 12x.

See this impressions(from resume saved game to game loaded in Halo 3):
12x: Load time was 27 seconds, drive rotation noise was loud and constant, seek noise was mildly noticable.
8x: Load time was 29 seconds, drive rotation noise was slightly noticable, seek noise was mildly noticable.
5x: Load time was 30 seconds, drive rotation noise was completely silent, seek noise was nearly silent.
2x: Load time was 36 seconds, drive rotation noise was completely silent, seek noise was the loudest of all.



Another question is how good the drive can read DL discs...

The video is gone,new link:



There was also an interesting article(also missing) from the website that posted that video(hungarian)

Online translator said:

The first surprise the filling time understands, the machine filled the current orbit under 14 seconds GTA in 4. After we started playing it turned out quickly that it is possible to forget it henceforth the popup his concept, the filling of the structures and other objects occurs like a shot because of the achievement time of the hard disk.